#suggestions-discussion

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real parrot
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putting too much detail into the stats of a suggestion is likely a reason why many get ignored

lucid marsh
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But
I put zero stats

real parrot
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like instead of saying "weapon A does this, weapon B does this, etc." (generalizing what you said), instead say something like "we could have weapons like A, B, etc. that could act like this"

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mention your idea as a group, not as single objects

frail mantle
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i usually never bother writing stats since i know basically jack shit about balance and would probably make it op or weak

lucid marsh
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Hmm. Ok I mean I don’t want to just loose the theme bit if this doesn’t get a whole lot of stars then I’ll delete it and summarize

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Though... it’s had 0 so far 😦

frail mantle
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remember, most likely, if it gets few stars, it might not be because it's a bad idea, but that people don't bother reading documents

lucid marsh
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Good point

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Alright summary added

quiet abyss
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@reef swift Nice suggestion, but a little nitpick:
Normally, you'd be able to only get biome items after plantera is killed, as the chests are hardcoded to only be able to be opened after plantera is killed.
However, due to Eidolists dropping ectoplasm after calamitas has been defeated, players could craft those items before actually killing plantera with the current recipes.

pliant bone
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Sadly, we cant prevent the dungeon from being eaten by the abyss because worldgen sucks ass.

quiet abyss
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Putting smth that's definitely only obtainable post-plantera, such as living shards, would solve it (but it might make the recipe not make too much sense)

reef swift
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oh yeah

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i forgot about eidolists

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do they drop ecto__blood__?

pliant bone
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Hey, atleast the Piranha gun recipe is post-plant.

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Nope

reef swift
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nice

quiet abyss
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Eidolists don't drop ectoblood ye, they drop ectoplasm directly

pliant bone
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Ectoblood could work yeah.

reef swift
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i might just make them crafted from perennial or ectoblood

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ectoblood it is

quiet abyss
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👍

pliant bone
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Though what about for the astral chest one?

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ofc it has to be post-deus

ashen warren
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astral bars

quiet abyss
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^

reef swift
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addeed

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added*

quiet abyss
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Nice

fossil torrent
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hey that's actually pretty nice

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the dungeon items are barely used anyways at least not at their tier, so a crafting recipe for them would be cool, especially because, as you said, the chests can get eaten

swift wharf
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or maybe you can get the items from crates at certain point

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(from dungeon crates)

placid moth
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I'd appreciate it if you made it into google docs, and also if there is a crimson version, it would be better if you also suggested a corruption counterpart.

quiet abyss
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Though I see nothing wrong with some more quotes

placid moth
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Was that the Tax Collector

dusty plover
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More quotes could be cool, But i didn't know we already have quotes

past mesa
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who us the first one???????

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tax collector is prehm iirc

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and why is he friends with the tax collector

sinful steeple
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Tax Collector is hm

placid moth
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10 gold is pretty shit tax income so I'm gonna leave him down there

sinful steeple
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OH it says someone I always thought it said something, referring to the voodoo dolls

past mesa
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why would it be him

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maybe its brimstone elemental

lost agate
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Doesnt amidias give more tips?

sinful steeple
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I don't think the Guide is into thicc cyclopses

ashen warren
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How about a sword that also summons a minion?

placid moth
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does bee keeper count

ashen warren
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Like, a sword, but with some ghost inside that fights for you.

placid moth
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so you want both melee and summon damage ?

lost agate
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So it summons something and then it doesnt matter its like a sword anymore

placid moth
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soul edge kind of summons ghostly spirits, no?

lost agate
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Yea

ashen warren
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I meant as an actual summon, but having a gimmick that made the summon target what ever the sword hit.

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And deal increased damage to that target

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Otherwise, it roams about, like a regular summon.

earnest raptor
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Sword of Rabbit King
Brave and powerful
Early Hardmode sword

LMC: swings a average sized sword, that on every second use shoot a pale sword beam, that inflict a unique debuff "Light Burning" (-3 hp per sec and enlights a enemy).
RMC: shoots a royal rabbit, that homes to enemies and returns to holder, when weapon is changed or no more enemies on screen. If someone have a Light Burning debuff, rabbit will deal to them 20% more damage.

🛠 : A bit tricky.
Find a gravestone, then drop to them a bunny, and kill them with Iron/Lead Sword. A beam of light will consume a grave and turn sword into Sword of Rabbit King.

Gasm : A bit of homage to Cave Story with their Blade, and some unique melee-summoning weapon.

placid moth
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That's...actually kinda cute.

void kelp
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the way to grind it would be like. forest biome + NPCs with butterfly net and zergpot?

earnest raptor
tired haven
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Tbh just gather bunnies in prehm

past mesa
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^

placid moth
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catch 10 frogs and fuse them into one amalgamate frog leg

void kelp
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what if the rabbit sword were crafted w something like,

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rabbits + enchanted sword at a hardmode anvil?

earnest raptor
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Changed.

void kelp
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I know alchemistnpc has that mechanic of having certain items to craft/buy via an NPC if you have the materials in your inventory; does calamity?

placid moth
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Not really.

earnest raptor
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Oh.

void kelp
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it’s ok!! it’s a creative idea tho and a cool concept for an early HM weapon

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what if it’s crafted with like.. rabbits + enchanted sword + souls of light (maybe) + gold/plat crown?

earnest raptor
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I did something original.

void kelp
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ooh. is that possible for the game?

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but it’s such a cute item for sure

placid moth
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bloody bunnies

earnest raptor
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ooh. is that possible for the game?
Yeah, by simular way Spirit of Purity can be summoned.

placid moth
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never really tried spirit mod

void kelp
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same. how does that work?

lofty blade
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Aerospec already exists, what purpose would this other armor serve?
Also, from what I see, Aerospec has better stats anyway.

sinful steeple
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That and they're just shadow and crimson armor anyway

void kelp
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maybe they could be like a mixed loadout alternative?

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or maybe they could offer a buff that’s pretty good for that tier

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so like.. melee attacks and projectiles apply ichor/cursed flame ?

civic rampart
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Bloodplate dmg boost seems too strong, especially when it's supposed to be a defensive set

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2/4/3% seems better

elder sparrow
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aerospec already exists

brazen bramble
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submarine shocker is super OP against immobile bosses like plantera, i think it should be nerfed a bit, maybe make the sparks despawn faster

sinful steeple
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... Plantera is a mobile boss

distant gyro
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but who goes true melee anyways, that's the thing

brazen bramble
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i just killed it even without a cross necklace

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you just hold your mouse button and the sparks do all the work

distant gyro
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go full overclock, hook yourself like that on Tea guide with Fetid Baghnakhs but on the grounds

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literally kills Golem DM

brazen bramble
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works a bit like baghnakhs but the sparks do all the damage, i hit like 20k dps on a dummy

tender obsidian
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Brhh

faint rivet
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I see someone is as big a BTD fan as I am armsmirk

brazen bramble
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from full hp btw, tanked everything, sat on the floor

tender obsidian
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Yee

sinful steeple
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BTD was like actually my childhood

tender obsidian
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Don't forget the new games

sinful steeple
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I would play BTD 5 over and over for hours and hours. It was so fun

distant gyro
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wow, might as well get a BAD tbh

sinful steeple
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I would honestly still play it if I could

tender obsidian
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(I was gonna include the BAD but idk that just seems like a buffed ZOMG and nothing else)

sinful steeple
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BAD?

tender obsidian
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The btd6 blimo

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Round 100

sinful steeple
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I stopped playing after BTD 5 so the most dangerous bloons I know are the boss bloons from that game

tender obsidian
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Yeah those ones

brazen bramble
tender obsidian
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They were cool but let's talk about my suggestion

distant gyro
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I would say move BFB a bit if it would be a thing

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So people wouldn't be like BFB > Discordian Wings or something

tender obsidian
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To...

distant gyro
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Cultist Maybe, there's not a lot there

tender obsidian
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Post plant instead or post mechs?

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Ok

sinful steeple
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Honestly though MOAB upgrades would be cool

tender obsidian
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Then I'd move the others to post DoG

faint rivet
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There's still the Xeroc wings for post-Cultists

tender obsidian
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U need luminite for those?

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I think

distant gyro
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no you don't

faint rivet
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Thing is nobody's really going to use another mobility accessory than tracers post-ML (maybe HotE)

tender obsidian
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Hmm

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I did try and make them different

distant gyro
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But a good alternative to Xeroc Wings sounds better than an alternative to Discordian

tender obsidian
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Ye

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Fishron wings are also decent at that stage

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And on the point tracers...

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Then maybe they could be used for challenge runs instead of defiled rune

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(was it defiled rune or iron heart

faint rivet
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Defiled removes flight time

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But people doing defiled just get by on the "flight time" from Tracers combined with HotE (or grav)

tender obsidian
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Hmm

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Well changes need to be made in order for it to find a place

faint rivet
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I think if you want a moab-like item to be used post-ML you'd want to remove the Jetpack part of it

tender obsidian
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Ok

faint rivet
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So it could be worn alongside tracers

tender obsidian
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Maybe it can have a flying carpet effect instead

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That's make sense I guess

frosty kindle
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i'm also a BTD fan, and a fan of this suggestion too

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nice to include the "less likely to detect you" with the DDT LUL

fossil torrent
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damn, bfb and zomg have been suggested quite a few times now

ashen warren
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Uh, why

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Sprinso, why do we need he dualsharks?

cunning bluff
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Idk

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Just for fun really

ashen warren
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Well, I do like the idea

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Just some reasoning would be nice

void kelp
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what if the BFB were crafted w beetle husks?

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so not only would it be a big freaking balloon it’d also be a beetle form balloon

cunning bluff
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like a post-golem thing right?

void kelp
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yeah

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and the ZOMG maybe could be crafted with the hoverboard + moab + luminite and the galactic singularities ?

civic rampart
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@reef swift for the reinforced bowstring, you may want to add usetime because usetime is the number of frames before next use

reef swift
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Thanks

tender obsidian
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Thanks @void kelp for the crafting improvement!

proven tide
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this channel exists .>.

spring dome
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got it

proven tide
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👍

spring dome
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i deleted the message there

viral thicket
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Post DoG is the Bad Balloon owothink

reef swift
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Post SCal is red balloon

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The hardest Bloons enemy

sleek wadi
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Camo regen red balloon

sinful violet
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Having too many btd references just seems silly.

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One post ML DDT upgrade seems like the best option imo

dusty stirrup
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That transformation just sounds painful af to program

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with all those attack changes

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Which means probably no one would want to program it

hybrid ocean
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reminds me of thorium

proven tide
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astral bath

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astral bath

radiant meadow
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if furniture is sprited, it may be added

ashen warren
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Not another one

radiant meadow
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but it's definitely not high priority or anything

ashen warren
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Is it possible to code an armor that reflects all projectiles, because if so, I may have a plausible idea

wooden wigeon
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could people speed up their requests for furnitures and vanities by supplying their own sprites?

ashen warren
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Sprites only help making the suggestion look flashier, the devs do their own sprites for the most part

wooden wigeon
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that's what i was thinking, but i was looking for whether it was recommended or not

radiant meadow
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if you make a furniture set sprite sheet, you would submit it to #sprite-submissions in art server

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assuming you complete the sprite sheet properly

ashen warren
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Hey, if you really have a passion for calamity related furniture, go for it. It's at least different than getting another guy who asks for something yet does nothing to achieve or help achieve the goal. i.e. most people here.

mint ginkgo
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Doesn't the starting bag give you bombs?

hollow shell
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It does, lol

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@tight edge

quiet abyss
hollow shell
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Lemme quick check that those haven't been removed recently

quiet abyss
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Hmm, aight

hollow shell
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Nope, they're still in there.

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Cookie must've missed em

tight edge
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Oh.

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Huh, I thought those were not there

ashen warren
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Mustve trashed them when organizing in a pt ig

void mesa
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Hey so in terms of death cheating items, what's considered op

hollow shell
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You mean like revival items?

void mesa
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Stuff like the god slayer set yeah

hollow shell
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I don't think there's a precedent for what's op in that area
I guess just use what we have currently as a reference

void mesa
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I got an idea for one but it's kinda quirky and probably weird

hollow shell
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Try and make it unique, keeping in mind the revive effects we currently have in the mod

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Being quirky is (probably) a good thing

void mesa
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It revives you, but also effectively puts you on a time limit

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Once that time is up, you die

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That's all the things I know for sure about the idea

hollow shell
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That doesn't sound OP at all
If anything it sounds kinda not useful :P

void mesa
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Possible things are free immunity frames during the first couple seconds of revival

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Well I mean, the idea is it's obtainable pre-ML

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As a rare drop from dungeon enemies

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Post-plantera of course

hollow shell
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Yeah but like, what kind of time limit are we talking here?
Because it'd mean you need to kill whatever boss you're fighting in that span of time
wherever you may be in the fight

void mesa
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Idk my idea is 15 seconds but that could change

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Maybe you could get a unique buff when you get revived

hollow shell
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There was an idea similar to this in the past

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But I believe it was post-Yharon

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and it was deemed useless due to the length of SCal's fight, you're very much not likely to have the time necessary to kill her while the item is activating

void mesa
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Well, if this is made way earlier in the progression, it'll make sense for it to be outclassed by the god slayer effect

hollow shell
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It'd be an alright option for
desperate measures

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If someone thinks they can really do with some guaranteed extra seconds

void mesa
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I'm mostly making this idea as just a big ol reference

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Because hey those are fun

hollow shell
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To what
may I ask

void mesa
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Binding of Isaac

hollow shell
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Plan... C?

void mesa
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You know the Ankh item in it that revives you?

hollow shell
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Forgot the name

void mesa
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But as ???

hollow shell
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No wait I'm thinking of the one that instantly kills all enemies in the room then kills you shortly after
Similar but nah

real parrot
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ngl there's been too many suggestions that are essentially just copies from other games

hollow shell
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I don't know the ankh one

tired haven
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Yeah it's Plan C, source

tulip parcel
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Okay

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the starting bag gives you bombs

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but it doesn't give you lamp oil

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lamp oil, rope, bombs, I want it

ashen warren
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lamp oil???

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what is this starbound

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Also the starting bag is fine

real parrot
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you didn't get the reference

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@ashen warren i DM'd you a video of the reference

tender obsidian
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Wahey 75 stars on my suggestion

faint rivet
civic rampart
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@gusty geode change the throwing knives into wulfrum ones

fervent sky
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Hey, so I was wondering what you guys think of my Ring of Calamity suggestion?

ashen warren
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It's unique I guess

tired haven
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@gusty geode you sure Explorer's bag should have Blue Horseshoe Balloon? Personally, I'd take it even over summoner one on summoner run lol

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Maybe Grappling Hook or Cloud in a Bottle instead?

placid moth
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I'd say Sandstorm in a Bottle, just in case your world doesn't have the pyramids for it and very useful early game item

tired haven
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You can craft all bottles in calamity

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Well, except tsunami, but it's fishable

faint rivet
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Tsunami HyperFailure

ashen warren
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Make bundle of balloons upgrade with the tsunami and fart in a jar

void kelp
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you can make fart in a balloon and that sharkron balloon

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idk if the latter can craft bundle tho

tired haven
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They can't

void kelp
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yeah then I’d want that as a small QoL change

civic rampart
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Make tsunami drop when you break a tsunami in a bottle

ashen warren
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Make water craftable from tsumani in the bottle

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Yes holy cow

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I'm tired of the cosmic bolter going 'pew'

placid girder
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What about a setting in the config for a building speed increase for blocks and walls

frail mantle
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why a config

placid girder
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For people who hate themselves

frail mantle
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but why a config specifically

placid girder
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Idk why is mining speed a config

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Just consistency

late shale
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Question, are suggestions for the mod only? Or can they apply to the discord server itself?

radiant meadow
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they can

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suggestions are for either the server or the mod itself

late shale
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alrighty, thank you 😄

ashen warren
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I wonder if 'ban somebody' suggestions are allowed.

quick dove
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dont give this big brain community idea

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ashen warren
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Suggestion: ban bafsol, they called me mean.

lost agate
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Suggestion: i slap you for memeing here

ashen warren
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That could have been better, but can you petition to have someone banned, as it is a change to the server in some aspects.

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Throwing stuff won't be converted to rogue

lost agate
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@sour yew vanilla throwing wont become rogue

sour yew
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ah i see

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thanks

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rip tho i like those weapons

ashen warren
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It doesn't say in the rules that you can't make a ban request.

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Though, I myself don't want to ban anyone

ruby cobalt
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Try it, don't be alarmed if you end up the one being banned.

radiant meadow
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you can't suggest someone to be banned in the suggestions channels

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although you can DM a staff member with proof if something bad is happening

late shale
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it does say being disruptive, which includes finding loopholes in the rules, so

lost agate
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But this is not the place to talk about anything of this

tender obsidian
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Hmm

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Big brain does it again

ashen warren
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The reason I brought this up being that the suggestion guidelines don't include any real do or don't rules on the suggestion. And that a bigger brain than me could try to get rid of somebody through this way.

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Also, the bigger brain could consider this a change to the discord server.

lost agate
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That bigger brain would get a warn to begin with

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Since banning isnt a public consensus

ruby cobalt
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A brain like that would last approximately 1 day.

lost agate
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^

ashen warren
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Hopefully.

lost agate
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And theres indeed a freaking suggestion rules

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Just go to where all the suggestions freaking go and look at pins

ashen warren
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By suggestion guidelines I meant the pins

lost agate
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Theres rules on the pins.... Its not guidelines its legit rules

radiant meadow
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it also helps to use common sense

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you can't suggest to ban someone as that's what the staff is for

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it's also quite rude and condescending in the public channel

lost agate
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^

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Oh a sepulcher summon mood

faint rivet
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Splecher

ashen warren
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Problem I see here is:
Brain gets angry > wants to ban user > asks mods and gets denied > suggests ban thingy as it's not denied in rules > pleads innocent when banhammer comes in

lost agate
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This is how it is in reality
Problem I see here is:
Brain gets angry > wants to ban user > asks mods and gets denied > suggests ban thingy when its kinda implied in rules > we slap him

ashen warren
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Ah, I meant that you'd ban the brain

lost agate
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We would just warn him

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The one who suggested it that is

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Now drop this topic since its going nowhere

ashen warren
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K then

hexed fog
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Summons don't have anything SCal so I dropped some of that good Summons on them

summer egret
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Crab time

void kelp
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I feel like it should be crafted w a crabulon exclusive drop or something along those lines

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  • what if it could do contact damage to enemies since crab claws
hollow shell
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@summer egret Add a reason?

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Thank you

ashen warren
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The Hand

A post ML magic weapon that serves as an upgrade to the Nebula Gauntlet. Upon activation, a Nebula void is summoned , which can be manipulated with the cursor. The Gauntlet begins casting a set amount of high damage nebula energy, which gravitate towards the void like a less direct homing bullet. The void grows larger the more energy it consumed, as an indicator for how powerful it is. Once all the projectiles have been shot, the void explodes, it's size and damage variable to the amount of projectiles it absorbed. The explosion deals more damage than the projectiles , however, it takes longer as a result. The void costs a constant, yet small, stream of Mana, wheras the projectiles cost sharp amounts.

Why: 3/5 of the lunar factions (Xeroc included) are given an upgrade post-DoG with the Mourningstar, Phangasm, and Scourge of the Cosmos/Empreyan knives. Stardust can be excluded, due to how summoner has always had fewer weapons, but Nebula has no excuse other than the weapons being unremarkable in comparison to others

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How's this?

hollow shell
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Sounds rad

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I like it

ashen warren
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The name is a bit eh to me tho, any ideas?

eager palm
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the arm

hollow shell
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(the nebula weapon is named Nebula Blaze, by the way)

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You could call it "Void Gauntlet"

ashen warren
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How 'bout "Hand of Creation"

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Though, I'm not too sure about a screen-range weapon for yharon, it'd likely be used about as much as mourningstar.
i;e Not much

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Perhaps if the behavior was altered slightly in that holding the weapon would have the void be pinned to the cursor and clicking "pushed" it or something.
In order to have the void explosion thing actually be something you can use.
The nebula blaze shooty things could be created slowly as you hold the weapon and would use mana on left clicking, at which point they behave like better blaze shooties.
Would likely have similar burst dps to anti-mat rifle while being more consistent so you actually use it.
Edit: @ashen warren

livid coral
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@languid dome Late but The Black Cat's name is Bear and he's my patron item who is also a tribute item, and tbh I'd rather nobody touch him.

formal prism
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yesterday's suggestions are getting some voting traction.

hollow shell
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@livid coral I think he's referring to this https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Unlucky_Yarn

Terraria Wiki

The Unlucky Yarn summons the Black Cat pet. It does no damage to enemies and does not affect the environment in any way. It will fly on a broom to catch up with a player that moves too far away from it. It is obtained from a Goodie Bag with a 1/150 (0.67%) chance.

formal prism
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ah yes, the Soul Eater Reference.

livid coral
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OH

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Never mind then

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Yeah Unlucky Cat is ok, not Bear tho

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Baby boy. Baby.

ashen warren
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Bear is the best calamity mod vanity.
If calamity's vanities didn't exist and have chicken nugget that'd be my go-to pet.
Alongside strange orb.

sinful violet
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Chicken nugget and crab are god

sinful steeple
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Bear is my favourite pet because Bear is kitter

livid coral
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Aww

dusty stirrup
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chocken nugger

ashen warren
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@ashen warren
My vocab on games may be a bit sparse, but what is a screen range weapon? Also, If I understood your suggestion correctly, you want to have the cursor move on click?

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Magic missile and upgrades are mostly bad for bosses.
Cause range is limited to screen size.
Compare that to say, phangasm or executioners blade.
Which have absurd range.

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Ouch, I'm unsure how I could translate the weapon idea onto a non-mm format

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Because what I'm tryna propose is a sort of 'catch' mechanic, which only works if you can move the void.

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"holding the weapon would have the void be pinned to the cursor and clicking "pushed" it or something"
So it'd have it be on the cursor as a visual effect, sorta like arcanum.
Then holding click would move it forward for asploding.
Letting go would bring it back.

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I can visualize it easily since it's similar to an attack in a game I've played but I cannot remember or I'd get a clip.

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Well, not all games are Terraria, take your time

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Ok, I remember it better now.
It's either a starbound item or a modded terraria item.
Behaves like a sorta fucked flying knife crossed with a yoyo.
Lemme check my mods.

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I'd remember if it was starbound.

summer egret
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Im sad cause I'm just falling short of crab rave

ashen warren
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Most folks think drat's bad so have fun.

quick dove
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drat requires you to get absolutely not hit to get max dps out of it

ashen warren
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You're likely nearly nohitting anyway.

quick dove
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considering how most of the community might not be as good as in nohitting like you, good luck with that

ashen warren
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Haha shit, forgot to check pins before posting comment. Sorry 'bout that, deleted it now.

radiant meadow
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huh?

quick dove
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why did you delete your suggestion

radiant meadow
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I mean technically drat isn't a dev weapon

ashen warren
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That's true but still dedicated to somebody.

radiant meadow
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although I don't know how dedicated item suggestions should be handled

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it's Syg's UT reward

hollow shell
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Changes to dedicated items are totally allowed

ashen warren
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Yeah I know.

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Moving it to dev tier with shadowspec isn't allowed.

hollow shell
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What isn't allowed is asking for new dedicated items to be added

ashen warren
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Since shadowspec.

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Yeah.

radiant meadow
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He didn't say shadowspec although it was implied

ashen warren
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Yes, it was implied, but I didn't notice that.

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Well, sorry.

hollow shell
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It's alright, I didn't even notice

ashen warren
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I nohit deathcal twice today but failed to record so im fucking outraged

radiant meadow
#

okay, stop right there. I'm jealous

hollow shell
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Heh

ashen warren
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I have probably over 50 raw hours of fun happy times with Scal. No this is not a flex, this is suffering. Why would I flex myself suffering?

ashen warren
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i smell flex

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💪

cold terrace
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moab upgrades have been suggested like a billion and a half times before

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yikes im very late

ashen warren
#

Yesterday at 05:51

cold terrace
quick dove
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i like the crafting suggestion

cold terrace
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termi, would the eldritch/abyssal tome be crafted at a static refiner or a bookcase

ornate pecan
#

Well then again not every suggestion can't be accepted, trust me I should know, I'm the now defunct Verdant Mod

cold terrace
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oh man those double negatives

radiant meadow
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at a lead/iron anvil

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well maybe a bookcase for the books

cold terrace
#

o

quick dove
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i remember the old days where i killed slime god to get the overloaded blaster, probably accidentally trashed it and kept searching until realizing it was not craftable and was a drop from him
i didnt manage to kill anymore slime gods and had to cheat,s ad

cold terrace
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isnt geltic crafted at the sg crafting station

radiant meadow
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oops

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I edited it and pinged someone Henkhenk

cold terrace
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i dont think edit pings work

radiant meadow
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I don't think so either but still HyperFailure

formal iron
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They don't, don't worry

radiant meadow
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got rid of the pings since it looked bad

cold terrace
#

have rainbownado map icons been suggested before...?

radiant meadow
#

probably

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idk if it's been sent

ornate pecan
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@ornate pecan

cold terrace
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yup it has

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The last instance of that suggestion was before this channel was made tho

radiant meadow
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then it's fine

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way too long ago to get a ☑

cold terrace
#

ye

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im drunkf tonight

quick dove
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there was one about flarenados before

hollow shell
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Yeah, too long ago.

dusty plover
#

i think we should have this, it would make the fight alot less unpredictable

hollow shell
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Alternatively you can build walls in front of where they would be

proven tide
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garglemuncher self-stars

radiant meadow
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@icy cove keep in mind that the 2 "upgrades" are dedicated items

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and I believe there was once plans to have the same amount of legendaries for each class, but I think that was scrapped

ashen warren
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@ ozzatron Hey look a trasher nerf suggestion.

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4 trasher deaths

icy cove
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Oh, ok yeah I get the thing about dedicated weapons, i just really badly want a legendary summon weapon

wooden wigeon
#

i recommend making a post ML upgrade to the trasher called the ghost trasher that ignores all walls and walks directly towards you slobbyjoy

icy cove
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And it can fly

ornate pecan
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Don't you hate it when there's a flying crocodile in your house

wooden wigeon
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no it just walks, but in the air

ashen warren
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Weapons that are crafted from legendaries are dedicated.
I'd remove that reason.

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@icy cove

ornate pecan
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If he did my joke wouldn't work

tired heron
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I am currently building a mountain beside a sulphuric ocean, but there's plenty of trashers spawning, and the THING IS, when the trashers climb the mountain (and I am working in it), they just climb it until they are over me, and then just clip into the blocks to give me a free 145 damage! Worst thing is: you cant use your minions to defend the area, since trashers are ''non-hostile'' until they go above you and do a surprise attack, so no minion defense! I just dont really get why it has these physics xD

fresh harbor
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Thank the mourning wood AI for that

proven tide
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You can buy it from the Dryad post-Evil

fresh harbor
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^

tired heron
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ahahah, at least those damn trees wont come bother me while I'm building xD

hollow shell
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Ah, I was gonna say that Dryad sells Panic Necklaces, but that's only in Corruption worlds.

cyan lagoon
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@digital pelican uh

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It isnt like that at all

ornate pecan
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Yeah I'm about as confused as you are

cyan lagoon
#

Any mech can spawn naturally after a demon altar is destroyed, not just a set order

livid coral
#

I'm also glad people are making light of Ozz's eternal rivalry with Trashers

ashen warren
livid coral
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Don't worry after Ozz resets his router you're gonna see a lot of me writing down my Skeletron deaths

ornate pecan
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I can see the insanity unfold already, Glow

pale bluff
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yeah, I think I might make it a nod to how some powerful weapons have some extremely over the top effects, like how the T1000 EX fires like, all Projectiles from the Martian Saucer Weapon Drops (the Missiles are there for DPS reasons)

ornate pecan
#

At first I thought it was a terminator reference then I read it

teal ibex
ornate pecan
ashen warren
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How?

livid coral
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Next thing we'll need is the BFG 9000

pale bluff
#

yeah lol

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I originally wanted to have the Double Barreled Shotgun before making the Hexa Barreled Shotgun Suggestion

ornate pecan
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Besides the boomstick is a double barreled shotgun

pale bluff
#

yeah lol

tired heron
#

how about...a triple barreled shotgun!!!

ornate pecan
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Or a quad barrel

pale bluff
#

what about a Super Nailgun from Quake?

tired heron
#

what about a fully automatic quad barreled shotgun!!

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lads, we have an idea here

ornate pecan
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Excellent

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BTW let me know, which one the enemies do you like the best

sleek wigeon
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angels
dont tolerate violence
hallow, one of the most violent biomes

ornate pecan
#

True, but crimson is still more violent

fresh harbor
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It's going to be harpoon -> dualpoon -> triploon all over again

void kelp
#

Ngl the profaned enemies fit the niche ur angel enemy has

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but I really like the idea of bear

ornate pecan
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Thing is the profaned enemies can either be fought in the hallow or hell and the angel is more exclusive to the hallow

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Think about this, the hallow is heaven, hell is hell, and the profaned enemies are purgatory

dusty stirrup
#

If anything, Corruption needs more new enemies, not Crimson

astral lake
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Dropping some thoughts here:
Void spider biome- a few (all?) Spider biomes become one of these after a certain point. They can slowly spread (limited distance?), break light sources off the walls near their blocks. Higher spawn rate? Black recluses + 1 or 2 other types of spider. Worm ai spider-like creature??? blackout/obstructed debuffs?
Mini boss spider that slowly moves through walls, radiating homing projectiles that inflict no contact damage but apply a damaging debuff/darkness or anything else that might fit thematically. Maybe it fades out after some time if it leaves the biome.. or enters a lighted area outside of the biome. Brain of cthulu fading in nd out around the player??

sleek wadi
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No spreading. Spreading is dumb and would also lag the game as it'd need to sweep through the entire world to check for spreadable blocks.

sleek wigeon
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Spreading wouldnt lag the game though?

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spreading is just a vanilla mechanic and it doesnt lag the game

tired haven
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^

If we talk about spreading issues it would be annoyance first

frail mantle
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@jade dock i don’t really understand what the suggestion is

sleek wadi
#

Life fruit growing is also a vanilla mechanic, but when we put in earlier in progression there were occasional spikes due to it. There were also issues getting the astral biome to spread which lead to that mechanic never getting implemented.

ashen warren
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That formatting is ech and I can't really understand the suggestion

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^

strong yew
#

Ahem, imksushi's mod.

faint rivet
#

More like bootleg enchantments

languid dome
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@livid coral No, Back Cat is named Black Cat. I'm talking about the Cat spawned by the "Unlucky Yarn"

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It's a vanilla item

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the one with a Witch hat

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and rides a broomstick when you fly

lofty blade
#

What's bad with having it drop ink exactly?

dense oriole
#

messing my inventory.

elder mist
lofty blade
#

that argument can be used with literally anything that drops items, as at some point, you don't need them.

dense oriole
#

i don't like useless inks are having a slot of chest.

elder mist
#

Just trash it then?

lofty blade
#

Then just throw them away

dense oriole
#

I'm laaaazyyyy

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well, i always trying to trash everytime i obtain

rustic canopy
#

Use auto trash mod

dense oriole
#

wait wut

#

is there "auto trash "mod? i really don't know it

rustic canopy
#

Yes there is

dense oriole
#

thx. i'll search it

astral lake
#

Too lazy to shift click LUL

faint rivet
#

^

ashen warren
#

Tbf if the squids drop an item that can't be stacked, it gets annoying, but on the other hand, ink is stackable.

placid moth
#

@radiant bough Would that mean having to guarantee that a pyramid spawns in every world, even small ones ?

radiant bough
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Right now pyramids are randomized

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and some worlds don't have them

placid moth
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They are, I am really sad they dont spawn for me.

radiant bough
#

You can have 0-4 during worldgen

placid moth
#

Sand Pyramid seems underutilised, fair point though

radiant bough
#

Basically a new moon event, or invasion, that is sun / egyptian themed

placid moth
#

An egyptian army would be interesting, I guess.

radiant bough
#

Invasions are already kind of bloated

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so maybe a Sunsphere of sorts

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for a "new moon" event like frostmoon etc

frail mantle
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afaik Fab hates coding invasions, which is why Calamity doesn't add any yet

radiant bough
#

Everyone hates

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coding invasions

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orz

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But yeah, with all of our moon worshipping cthulhu themed stuff, would be cool, if we had some minor event for sun based stuff (tldr I just like ancient egypt, and having a trendy mummy movie rip off event would be great)

placid moth
#

how abt ancient rome

radiant bough
#

Romans are scary as fk

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Roman legion

placid moth
#

i like justinian though

radiant bough
#

would just roll through

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A Mayan surface pyramid 😮 😮 😮

ashen warren
#

Wait, isn't the sun god Providence

round falcon
#

no? as far as i know, no

placid moth
#

profaned god would be more accurate

frail mantle
#

she lives in the sun, i don't think she's exactly the goddess of the sun

rapid pivot
#

She's a light goddess, isn't she?

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Light so strong it purges all that she deems 'unclean'?

ornate pecan
#

Do that and we all die

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facepalm

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Kill the dragon

untold gulch
#

please no post ml random boss spawns

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that would be the bane of my existence

tired haven
#

Please postml boss spawns so I don't have to craft summon items /s

untold gulch
tight edge
#

Hm. Instead, then, maybe it could be a special item that activites it? I dunno, I just thought it'd make more sense to have those bosses suprise attack you, considering they know you exist.

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Lore-wise

untold gulch
#

hmmm

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i don't have an opinion on that

frail mantle
#

it'd be ass to just be preparing a Yharon arena only for him to suddenly omae wa mou shindeiru his way to you, tearing open your asshole, filling it with bumblebirbs and fucking off

untold gulch
#

now that's something i can agree with

tight edge
#

True

nocturne slate
#

I don't think calamity is the best mod to have bosses randomly pop into existence considering the ammount of preparation most of them require..

frail mantle
#

^

tight edge
#

Alright, maybe just the Sentinels? There is a message that says: "Cosmic terrors are watching..."

nocturne slate
#

Even just potion wise, if you're not ready for a sudden boss you're just at such a huge disadvantage, especially if you didnt bring the right weapons and such for the job, let alone an arena

tight edge
#

So, again, I think it'd make sense lore-wise

untold gulch
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i like the second suggestion because i want to experience random boss spawns in rev because death is fucked up

faint rivet
#

Why would you want bosses to randomly spawn ech

elder mist
#

Smh just do death mode it's not that hard. UltimateSmug

untold gulch
#

i did
and you do have a point; it's not that hard

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but rev is the sweet spot imo and random bosses are just really good

ornate pecan
#

Death mode on Hardcore

tight edge
#

Yeah rev is the sweet spot for me too

lost agate
#

Im pretty sure devs wanna keep the "something is approaching" as it is

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I mean, the original idea was not even having a warning

untold gulch
#

flashbacks to having to die to 300 eocs spawning at first night

languid dome
#

@faint rivet adds more fun to the game, I personally dig the idea

untold gulch
#

i agree with lord aether

languid dome
#

"You feel the very universe shaking at your feet"

lost agate
#

"you feel your asshole tearing apart"

faint rivet
nocturne slate
#

You feel like you're about to be dunked on-..wait wrong game

languid dome
#

"You feel the bane of the gods preparing to devour your inner essence"

lost agate
#

Alright stop

languid dome
#

little surprised no one besides a dev mixing up Bear and Black Cat bring up my suggestion yesterday

ornate pecan
#

time to get drunk

lost agate
#

Stop memeing here

languid dome
#

I'm not anymore, no one has any thoughts on my idea?

fervent zealot
#

what was the idea

languid dome
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"small bit of details, but I think it would be nice if you could interact with your pets, or have your pets interact with you. Saying things or having minor texts appear saying "(pet) is blah blah blah". Like something like the Chibi Devourer making random remarks when you're fighting or the Black Cat (spawned by the unlucky yarn) saying something when you use potions/magic would be a nice touch to the game. probably a stupid idea"

fervent zealot
#

nope

ornate pecan
#

No

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BOI

lost agate
#

That would be an ass to code

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And dont meme here ffs

languid dome
#

Would it? I'd imagine something as simple as a "If player takes damage = Display "Don't get cocky" If Chibi Devourer is equiped"

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something like that. Probably a lot more my knowledge of coding isn't the best rn but I'd assume it be very similar to that

lost agate
#

Text spam oh boy

fervent zealot
#

just like getting hit by the tail

untold gulch
#

mmm i like that, good one trashbox

fervent zealot
#

a real of all the segments to get hit by experience

languid dome
#

it's just an example, but would be a nice touch

lost agate
#

That sounds like something another mod should do, not calamity

languid dome
#

you don't like the idea?

lost agate
#

No im just saying its an idea for a standalone mod, not calamity

languid dome
#

I will respectfully disagree with that.

lost agate
#

Eh, the QoL stuff on calamity is there to help progress not just for flavour

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Thats why im saying its something calamity shouldnt do

languid dome
#

tbh it seems like something that would be done, at least going off of things like the lore drops. And Chibi Devourer already has something similar on it granted it's when its a little prick and stabs you

lost agate
#

Lore isnt QoL

languid dome
#

And that the boss DoG does make remarks mid fight

lost agate
#

Its part of the experience, not qol

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So my point stands

tender obsidian
#

Ye

ashen warren
#

why?????

hollow shell
#

@ashen warren So, even when a boss is not alive?

ornate pecan
#

You're gonna need balls of steel to do that

ashen warren
#

Yes

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To make the game very very difficult

#

thats like 1hp challenge

#

We dont need that tbh

earnest raptor
#

Obsidian time flashbacksHyperFailure

ashen warren
#

Whats 1hp challenege?

ornate pecan
frail mantle
#

so the reason is "eggs dee 1 hp challenge"

ashen warren
#

Ive never heard of 1hp challenge

frail mantle
#

it's a challenge where you go through the game... with one hp

earnest raptor
#

Whats 1hp challenege?
Edit your player max hp to 2 in player editor.

ornate pecan
#

it's where terraria players use console commands to make their hp 1

ashen warren
#

But that takes effort why not just make an item do it for u so its easier

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Tbh idek how to open the console.

ornate pecan
#

Calamity is hard enough

earnest raptor
#

You can make a mod for that item.

ashen warren
#

But i cant...

earnest raptor
#

Learn.

ashen warren
#

I dont have time to learn to code when i busy learning useless maths...

#

Its just a suggestion... no need to get fiesty

elder mist
#

"Yeah like just learn coding why are you suggesting anyways its that easy loool 4HEad"

#

By that logic literally no suggestion ever would be made, anyone can just make their own addon for the suggestion they're making.

ashen warren
#

like i said , we dont need it

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as putting up challenges yourself is just a solution for that

elder mist
#

Not defending, I agree it's a pretty meh suggestion, just that saying "just make a mod yourself" is a piss poor response.

ashen warren
#

Why is it everytime i make a suggestion its a controversy..

earnest raptor
#

Also 3x money cash doesn't matter, when you can farm a >500 Crabulon bags.

ashen warren
#

Queen bee*

earnest raptor
#

Yeah.

ashen warren
#

I didnt mean to take that litterally i meant like make it worth doing the challenge so its like revengence mode

earnest raptor
#

Honestly, Calamity have a enough challenge modes.

teal ibex
#

i wouldn't call this a controversy btw

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people discuss suggestions so we can make sure they're of quality and reasonable to implement into the mod

lost agate
#

Im pretty sure QB doesnt drop much money anymore

elder mist
#

Hec is very controversial

earnest raptor
#

@lost agate so crabulon is more viableHDfailure

ashen warren
#

Farm kingslime...

lost agate
#

How much does he gives?

teal ibex
#

what's that supposed to mean, ein bingAw

elder mist
#

Keys.

earnest raptor
#

@lost agate around 23 coins in rev+ with all selled drops.

lost agate
#

Eh it can work

elder mist
#

That's like 1/5th of old QB

lost agate
#

Yeah

elder mist
#

😔

earnest raptor
#

And he drops more shrooms that needs for summon, then you can just farm crabulon for more crabulons without spending your profit for Summons.

ashen warren
#

😔 rip 1plat qb

earnest raptor
#

Oh, and also.

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QB drops around 25 gold.

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But summons cost 15 gold.

ashen warren
#

😔

lost agate
#

10 gold of profit sweating

elder mist
#

I mean hey at least you get bee's knees.

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Which means ultra fast boss killing.

ashen warren
#

welp crabulon is new gold mine

earnest raptor
#

Welcome to my new dark occult of CAF!

ashen warren
#

doggo profit got nerfed right

faint rivet
#

Psure it did

#

At least mount sales got nerfed

void kelp
#

suspicious jelly bean no longer sells for 1 plat :, (

faint rivet
#

🙃

earnest raptor
#

:(

#

So, just spend hours to get thousands of Crabulons bags.

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And get endless platinumsHyperFailure

#

Okay, that pretty off topic.

ornate pecan
#

You know, that ain't a bad idea

untold gulch
#

congratulations! you're the 100th time i've seen someone in the internet spell rogue wrong! your reward is nothing!

#

nothing as well as a star

frail mantle
#

@boreal valve maybe instead of saying "add something among the line of this vague concept" say "add this thing that does this"

boreal valve
#

here ill edit it and add a bit more

ornate pecan
#

I just noticed that, we aren't talking about a certain bat here

elder mist
#

(Rage and wrath include rogue, pretty sure.)

frail mantle
#

(they do, but i'm guessing this person means a rogue-specific potion, among the lines of the sharpening stone or bewitching table)

boreal valve
#

there i added a more and fixed spelling rogue right

teal ibex
#

25% seems like a lot bingS

agile cloud
#

10-12% is better

lost agate
#

Looks at archer potion

noble turret
#

25% is alot for the price it costs to craft SirenThonk

boreal valve
#

ok yeah 25% is to much 12% is better

vestal elbow
#

bosses with weaknesses what is this I can't comprehend this deepthonk

hollow shell
#

@inner rover You can keep it

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In fact please do keep it

inner rover
#

oh ok

hollow shell
#

because if it also reaches 65, the original "buff rare sandy" suggestion gets marked as highly suggested

inner rover
#

gotcha

#

ok it's back

quick dove
#

yes please

#

rare sandy is near useless currently

dusty stirrup
#

Imagine still calling them waifus

quick dove
#

we can dream phup :(

dusty stirrup
#

That's a sad dream

sinful steeple
#

That feels unneeded imo, and there wouldn't really be a good way to grow mushroom or jungle grass on a mud block

radiant meadow
#

@jade dock the early bosses are supposed to be extremely easy

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the later tiers are already quite tiring as they are and very dangerous

jade dock
#

Isnt the idea of a terminus that all bosses are supposed to be fairly difficult? and if they are SUPPOSED to be easy, could you at least make an item to skip the early parts of terminus? is just so boring.

radiant meadow
#

the goal is not to have danger immeninent throughout the "event"

#

it's like a buildup

jade dock
#

not of a terminus, of a boss rush sorry

#

Ok then.

radiant meadow
#

if the entire thing has full of danger with much more death to early tiers, it would be much more tedious to complete

jade dock
#

Ok. just an idea.

elder sparrow
#

y tho

#

how could you upgrade flower boots

#

rogue potions are a good idea

#

random mob ideas need drops so they dont just fill up space

#

or something useful ig

#

if you have that bad luck with crimson heart/shadow orb drops that's simply a personal problem and nothing can change that

radiant meadow
#

bloom stone kind of already is a flower boots upgrade

elder sparrow
#

i suppose you can have a recipe for such things but dryad exists too

#

is there really a point in preventing trashers from digging? after all it makes the biome difficult to traverse

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why are you even building a home in literal shit beach

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yes legendaries should be balanced for other classes and it should be that way

#

i think arena tornado icons were suggested but were overlooked

teal ibex
#

it's a pretty lame take to be like "didn't get the rng drop in your world, too bad" imo

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i hate generating completely new worlds to get gear, it seems incredibly unnecessary

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and for the most part it seems like calamity has taken the stance of reducing rng heavy grinds, not just leaving them be, seems like a very appropriate addition if you ask me

elder sparrow
#

it doesn't hurt to add one

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i was being dumb there bc dryad is for opposite world evil

teal ibex
#

ye it's not both unfortunately

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though that's an alternative solution, really, is just having both in the shop. probably a little too overzealous tho

radiant meadow
#

you could go fishing HyperFailure

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although the Dryad's shop is quite bloated as it is

teal ibex
#

you could probably move some boss summons to other shops to solve that, tbf

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she's got all of prehm and some others iirc?

elder sparrow
#

most of prehm

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some summons like abeemination get moved to witch doctor i think

radiant meadow
#

all of phm except abeemination pretty much

teal ibex
#

gotchya

radiant meadow
#

as well as seafood

teal ibex
#

seems like you could split those up a bit, in the theoretical scenario, but i don't even think it's the best solution anyway bingShrug

elder sparrow
#

adding a recipe might as well be the best option for this type of thing

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also may need to add one for band of starpower but i dont really know because magic cuffs are in ice shrines

teal ibex
#

band of star power isn't evil exclusive i think? lemme check the wiki

hollow shell
#

Drops from Shadow Orbs

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and not Crimson Hearts.

teal ibex
#

oh actually, according to wiki it's post evil boss, so you could technically fight the alt evil boss on the island and still get it in shop?

#

that is for both panic necklace and band of starpower, unless i'm mistaken

hollow shell
#

Sold only in Crimson worlds, where it is usually unobtainable.

teal ibex
#

wiki doesn't specify world evils if that's a particular qualifier, so might want to be added. in that case recipes would still be a solid idea ye

hollow shell
#

What page are you looking at?

teal ibex
hollow shell
teal ibex
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yeah, it lists the bosses, says nothing about requiring the world evil itself

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since you can absolutely fight the alt bosses on the alt evil island

hollow shell
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That's true I suppose

teal ibex
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that being said, it's still convoluted and worth including a recipe for imo

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that was more of a devil's advocate proposition than anything else

radiant meadow
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probably would be easier to move some boss summons out of her shop and just make the reqs to sell those items when either eow or boc is defeated

teal ibex
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you could probably move at least slime crown and desert medallion to merchant. it'd let you grind them before killing the eye anyway, so probably a beneficial change unless it's an intentional gate

ashen warren
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Move desert medallion to Sea King tbh

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Dog Whistle

Drops from pitbull and angry dog.

Makes summons only attack bosses, can be triggered on and off like Rev/Death.

Why: It gives use to these otherwise bleurgh enemies that barely drop anything worthwhile, and solves the complaint of having bosses be ignored by the rarted rather irritating summon AI. And due to it being toggleable, bosses with significant minions (SCal as an example) can be dealt with.

hollow shell
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It'd be more fitting as an accessory than a toggleable item

ashen warren
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Well, yes. But do mind that for summoner, you don't have many choices in terms of actual summon weapons, which is why the debuff true-damage guns exist.

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Also, somebody would probably complain about having to open up their inventory and then turn the item off

hollow shell
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What does not having a lot of weapon choices have to do with it? 🤔

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The inventory opening thing yeah I can see that

ashen warren
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I meant in terms of hotbar space

hollow shell
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ah

ashen warren
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God forbid using autopause

void kelp
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i like the idea of it being toggleable since an accessory makes it seem like the impact is a bit too small but as something you can toggle is something that 1) fits the item idea and 2) seems a lot more convenient

sleek yew
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whoops pressed enter on accident

sleek yew
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anyway the suggestion is:
Buff wings acquired during early hardmode or nerf Destroyer and Skeletron Prime but buff Twins
When fighting Destroyer and Skele Prime, it can be extremely difficult to dodge the lazers, due to slow acceleration. Even with MOAB and Frog Leg it still has the same effect. Leviathan went in good detail in his new episode of his playthrough.
If you were to nerf Skele Prime and Destroyer and buff Twins, do this:
Reduce the numbers of projectiles that each boss can fire. Reason is abefore mentioned. To buff twins, make Spaz charge farther and Ret fire lazers more, encouraging not just using a gravity potion to win.

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what do yall think?

vestal elbow
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revert the wing nerfs HDfailure

tired haven
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Except it's not gonna make situation much better as we are back to starlight masterrace

sinful violet
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starlight wings were simply god tier darylsweating

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you can't blame us

tired haven
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I can't because I worshipped them back then smugyon

sinful violet
fossil torrent
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i’d probably still be stuck on mech bosses nohit if i didn’t do them pre-wing nerf

topaz bramble
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Do you guys think you would star an entire set of auric weapons? Auric ore is really underutalized, and some people might not feel like doing all the grinding for the exo stuff. I feel like something like this could make auric ore feel like more than just a locked gate for exo weapons.

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All I have sprited right now are the melee and mage ones

faint rivet
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I don't think Auric weapons would be used, honestly

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When you're post-Yharon, you'll be able to take care of hordes of enemies with ease, which makes the farming for Exo-weapons and Auric Tesla armor relatively easy

topaz bramble
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It can still be a time consuming chore

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Mostly actually waiting for stuff to spawn

faint rivet
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Zerg potions exist

topaz bramble
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Good point

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Honestly, I was just kinda using this as an excuse to give myself something to sprite

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I still think it would be a cool addition

tired haven
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Do you consider cosmilite weps unused?

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Here is same deal. Those will be easy to craft, slightly weaker in exchange

topaz bramble
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True

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I feel like it's fair tho

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If cosmolight gets that, then why shouldn't something like auric?

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Especially with how underused auric is

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it doesnt even have a bar

void river
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I completely agree with levi about the wing nerf

faint rivet
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Me too

void river
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really noticed it during my hardcore run ablobsweats

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The mech bosses were just so...

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Inconsistent when compared to previous fightd

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I had to rely on MOAB, jetpack, frogleg and or aero stone

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Just to have a chance at avoiding it

faint rivet
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Bring back 1.2 mobility k thx henk

void river
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Kek

faint rivet
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Oh right, 'cause there definitely aren't bosses in the game where you want to stand still

low remnant
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no, but its easy enough to use a standard immunity frame bug to cheese a fight

faint rivet
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Yeah and if people want to do that then let them

low remnant
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to be fair, I doubt one would be playing Rev+ and using a cheese like that for every boss

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idk. Just a suggestion

ashen warren
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The slime mount iframe glitch counts as moving anyway.

void river
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One does not simply 100% rid a game of cheesing without mistakenly robbing some of the charm in the game

faint rivet
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True, Sequence

low remnant
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hmm

void river
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drinks swiftness potion
movement speed doesnt exceed 34mph

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+25% my ass

ashen warren
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Horizontal only which would just be annoying.

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Boots cap speed argo.

void river
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Who's idea was that cadthonk

low remnant
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anyway, that was just a thought to try to prevent easy boss cheesing. To be fair, the nurse exists

ashen warren
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Ask re-logic.

void river
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Ahh

faint rivet
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Yeah it's basically just an acceleration boost

void river
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Which doesn't matter when you dash

faint rivet
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^

ashen warren
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As I've said far too many times before, king slime is meant to be easy.
The fucking seahorse is more difficult in some ways.
Besides, the rope strat is far from intuitive, so people won't exactly beeline for it unless they already know it exists.

faint rivet
low remnant
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Macaroni you can get the Star Cloak from granite shrines, unless that's been changed

sinful steeple
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Oh right

ashen warren
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No, but shrines succ.

sinful steeple
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True

low remnant
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but still, a crafting recipe would be nice

sinful steeple
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Every playthrough I never find the granite shrine

void river
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Takes foever to find

low remnant
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lmao every playthrough I've found it

sinful steeple
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Or any shrine except for the marble shrine for whatever reason

void river
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Its more of a lucky break if anything

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If only there was a tracker of sorts

ashen warren
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Shrines are entirely luck.
Only ones that aren't entirely luck are desert and hell, since they have definite places.

low remnant
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they do...?

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let me guess: beneath the opening of the anthill

ashen warren
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Hell shrine is always near the bottom, desert shrine is always in the underground desert at about a third of the way down or so.
Unlike marble, granite and mushroom.

void river
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Because theres multiple of that mini-biome

ashen warren
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tears of heaven instead of flare bolt

frail mantle
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T’was replaced with :ew: and then removed i guess

hollow shell
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Mrrp and Sarg overreacted to people using it for suggestions so they removed it entirely smugyon

ashen warren
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"overreacted"
It was the correct reaction slobbyjoy

quick dove
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feels disnecessary but ok

hollow shell
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haha "reaction"

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inb4 people just use SmugBrimmy for suggestion reasons now because it looks like :why:/:ew: did

ashen warren
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i swear to fuck

ruby cobalt
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already doing it

quick dove
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just wait smh

ashen warren
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@warm tinsel Why are you doing this?

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We're gonna get the brimmy emotes deleted at this rate.

frail mantle
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Because it’s named why LUL

ashen warren
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It was the amazing idea of odditer iirc

frail mantle
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Didn’t Odditer use ❔ for explaining why

ruby cobalt
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the original idea was trashbox's

hollow shell
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No he used ❔ for explaining what it is, iirc

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the main desc

frail mantle
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Ah yes

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Trashbox Bobylev

warm tinsel
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I'm sorry

ashen warren
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You are a scholar and a gentleman.

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I shall tell this tale for all time.

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..Or like, 2 minutes idk one of them.

rich inlet
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Ueliace bars

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Why do ppl still use ancient names

hollow shell
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Ferox is an ancient man

rich inlet
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cosplaying provi in pvp

tired haven
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Ancient problems require ancient solutions?

faint rivet
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PvP in Terraria UltimateSmug

rich inlet
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Pvping with fine network is ok

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But like, that doesn’t exist

ornate pecan
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In Japan, maybe

ashen warren
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What?

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In PHM, the reaver shark and chainsaw are cheese

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What benefit would having upgrades to it be.

cinder sorrel
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idk honestly, it just came up

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maybe not as powerful as the titanium pickaxe so you can skip 2 ores?

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no ideas.

lost agate
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You can already mine cobalt/paladium with reaver shark

cinder sorrel
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well then that's just a bad idea HDfailure

ashen warren
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Cobalt + Palladium = Coballion.

cyan lagoon
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🙃

lost agate
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Reasons

earnest raptor
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@ashen warren

Who’s idea to use :why: as why in the first place
I'm.

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Because it's was amazing.

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Now one of my memes are ruined.

lost agate
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It got annoying and it was removed

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Because it was misused

hollow shell
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But Shucks
"misuse" implies that using it for suggestions was not its primary function, as defined by the people who used it

earnest raptor
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Most interesting.

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:why: emote still alive.

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But just hidden.

hollow shell
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You mean looking at old suggestions and its still there?

earnest raptor
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Yes.

hollow shell
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Discord just works like that
Old emote usage is archived and functional even if the emote gets deleted

earnest raptor
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Ouch.

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Okay.

hollow shell
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It is actually gone.

earnest raptor
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So, :why: will always sit in my heart. HyperFailure

lost agate
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we changed to ew so the message that it wasnt just a flat out why could get across

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.... it didnt work

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"I wanna this to be added
ew: it would help"

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...

earnest raptor
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Hmmm...

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Ew is deleted?

lost agate
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yes, the why emote changed to ew but it changed nothing so it got removed

earnest raptor
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Good

tired haven
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And then peeps started using this one SmugBrimmy

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Next up would be HyperYharimJudge I swear

radiant meadow
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@earnest raptor that's not happening because of the non linearity and stuff

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that's like saying make the eidolon tablet only drop post Golem
or putting portabulb recipe back to post plant

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the goal is to let players choose the direction they want to go

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if they are skilled enough to do an early aureus, so be it

teal ibex
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and it would also 100% kill speedrunning to reverse those changes but that's not as important

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but ye i think it's really up to the player what order they tackle things in, especially considering how subjective the boss experiences can be

tired haven
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smh just speedrun calamity like vanilla but harder

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But yeah, Non-linearity is better here because it does not limit player in options

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Even if 80% of players take intended route anyway

earnest raptor
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Okay, I changed.

dusty stirrup
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Besides, boss checklist exists

sinful violet
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GoSh pHup tHat'S likE tEllinG peoPle To USe alCheMisT NpC foR pOTioNS

tired haven
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Except boss checklist doesn't have knuckles boss and 600k dps rifle

sinful violet
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fuck suffering

hollow shell
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inb4 Boss Checklist Lite

sinful violet
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weaponout lite is a thing right

hollow shell
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Don't know

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Could be

tired haven
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Probably

mint ginkgo
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yes it is

ruby cobalt
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It is.

hollow shell
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Neat

tired haven
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Calamity mod lite when
Only mode items left HDfailure

earnest raptor
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🤔

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Just a example.

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I did plant and golem from 3 times.

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Aureus has keeped me suffering like 12 times.

plush remnant
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To be fair, Plantera and Golem are both insanely easy

sinful violet
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plantera's the worst boss for me since i have to make an arena for it

plush remnant
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Levi, on the other hand, makes me want to jump straight to Layer 4 of the Abyss

sinful violet
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levi i find easy since it requires little to no arena Henkhenk

plush remnant
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Honestly, though, that's the only problem with Tera. Otherwise, it's circle to win

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For the Levi fight, I just find it takes way too fucking long post plant

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Even on Rev, once Siren dies and Levi enrages, it's like "But why though"

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I'd skip him entirely in a Death run

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Only reason I even fought him this playthrough was because the AlchNPC Operator sells his bag and I need his drops for Fargo Enchantments, since I'm in MasoDeath

jolly kettle
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on the summon thing maybe like a ichor stickler summon that has a high chance to ichor enimies shrug

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or flasks that apply the debuffs to summon intead of meele

quick dove
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more strategic way to apply summons

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have one of them give ichor and other one give cursed debuffs, then use another summon to do dmg

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smart

hollow shell
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Holy shit you said "Stickler" too
I thought I was an idiot but I guess other people also make the error

radiant meadow
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just summon cosmic immat at the start of the game
easy ichor HyperFailure

hollow shell
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Also Ichor Sticker minion would be nice

radiant meadow
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and a cursed flame minion as corrupt alt?

hollow shell
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A Clinger that stays attached to you and fires autonomously YES

quick dove
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when will someone suggest one with sprites and crap

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thats a neat idea for summons

teal ibex
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ye stuff like that would be excellent

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just any way to spice up the summoner pool with some benefits tbh

wooden wigeon
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so supporting other minions, make them sentries maybe?

jolly kettle
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oh its sticker?

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we just plasting this boy to the fridge or something ?

radiant bough
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My latest suggestion :V

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[8:08 PM] Saburouta: Make manapotions also have "ammo" tag, so we can store mana pots in that slot, and pref make them stack much higher.

jolly kettle
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Idk it’s not like we out here shooting mana pots 🤔

radiant bough
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Mana flower + mage

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the amount you drink, you're prolly throwing the bottles 🤔

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It would be massive QoL

distant notch
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how possible would it be to put calamity mod music files in cache folder of tmod

real parrot
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what?

distant notch
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in documents > my games > terraria > modloader > mods > cache

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calamity music mod has its music stored in the .tmod file for the mod

real parrot
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the mod doesn't get data from the cache so that wouldn't be necessary

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and it can't get it from in there either afaik

distant notch
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k

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is there any way to open the tmod file

real parrot
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no

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why do you need to open it

distant notch
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kind of want to put in custom music

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to go with my wavebank

real parrot
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the closest you can get to that is setting music to 0% and playing your music through a media player (e.g. VLC media player)

distant notch
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yeah thats not something I want to do

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but as Idont know much about terraria modding, i wanted to know if its theoretically possible to store the music files somewhere else

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in a format that could be editable

real parrot
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afaik, no

distant notch
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eh