#suggestions-discussion

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ashen warren
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"bordering"

hollow shell
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There have been Supreme Entropy's Vigil suggestions in the past, if that's what he's asking for.

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Some were even great

radiant meadow
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what exactly is that supposed to be? sweating

real parrot
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basically another "op as hell weapon hahaues" weapon

junior marsh
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True I will explain

real parrot
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or better yet, edit your message to include the explanation

proven tide
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Or, even better, edit your original—

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god damnit.

real parrot
ashen warren
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Forced undertale reference.

real parrot
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isn't there already one or was that struck down too

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i forget

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oh yeah, it was the sans jacket suggestion slobbyjoy

pale bluff
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I'll just make the Accessory a non-undertale reference

tired heron
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I'm a big fan of nova's idea ^^

pale bluff
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there, made it an MLP reference, since the Undertale reference was kinda dumb

ashen warren
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Why does it have to be a reference at all?

sleek wadi
pale bluff
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removed the reference

junior marsh
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I edited it

elder kestrel
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I feel like a 1 minute cooldown is too overpowered

junior marsh
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Maybe 2 mins?

radiant meadow
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the recipe for your summon is still ridiculously ludicrous

ashen warren
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Creepers suggestion.

junior marsh
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Ok let me change it if you think that

pale bluff
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is 2 Minutes and 30 Seconds balanced?

radiant meadow
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remove LUL and remove yharim's crystal

elder kestrel
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Yea sounds gucci

radiant meadow
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and tone down with the calamitous essence and cosmilite

pale bluff
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Isn't Calamitous Essence not allowed in Suggestions?

quick dove
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i dont understand what creeper is suggesting

radiant meadow
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calamitous essence is allowed

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shadowspec bars are not

pale bluff
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ah

elder kestrel
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Pretty weird loophole tbh

ashen warren
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I suspect it's because spec are dev bars, calamitous essence is gonna be next tier shit.

proven tide
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Calamitous Essence is a grey zone that's technically legal but should be shied away from

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Using it in a recipe only makes people roll their eyes

junior marsh
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I know

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Changed it

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Again

radiant meadow
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you still should remove LUL

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there's zero reason it should be in any recipe

junior marsh
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Sure

pale bluff
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LUL is a meme item, which is one of the only meme items in the mod that isn't NO U

elder kestrel
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Let me fix the recipe for you
25 calam essence, 20 cosmo bars, entropy's vigil and 20 bars of life

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There's no reason for there to be 2 last prisms and 1 dark spark in the recipe

pale bluff
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mine or Creeper's?

junior marsh
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Because it shoots beams

elder kestrel
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Creeper's

pale bluff
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ah

elder kestrel
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Still, it's just tedious and pointless

junior marsh
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Well do you think one last prism maybe?

pale bluff
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I kinda think it's ludicrous for an endgame weapon

radiant meadow
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probably zero last prisms since prisms are mage weapons

pale bluff
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Last Prism isn't really a Summoner weapon

junior marsh
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I know this but what could replace that?

pale bluff
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a different Item that's for Summoners

radiant meadow
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entropy's vigil should be good enough though?

junior marsh
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Yeah true

pale bluff
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I kinda got the hang of making the Supreme Entropy's Vigil (Since it uses Ingredients from Calamitas and Supreme Calamitas instead of a bunch of random weapons)

junior marsh
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Yeah I'll just delete mine since someone with better sense than me will do it lol

pale bluff
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nah, don't delete what is already made, improve on it

junior marsh
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Nope I deleted it

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I mean you have better sense so _('-')_/

radiant meadow
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now time to blue check mark it HyperFailure

hollow shell
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I have a policy of not bluechecking specific weapon/accessory suggestions
Because one could contribute ideas that the other does not

But

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this one doesn't have any differences with the previous Supreme Entropy's Vigil apart from recipe, considering it doesn't list any function ideas

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so

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oh boy

sleek wadi
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wha

real parrot
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lmao you do realize that the item isn't called "chibii devourer"

hollow shell
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It's "Celestial Sigil", also.

cyan lagoon
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@junior marsh can you explain why you want it

hollow shell
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also

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why

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yeah

ashen warren
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@proven tide What's with you and meme-starring?

cyan lagoon
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I dont understand

junior marsh
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Because for bored end gamers who want a hard challenge, by hard, I mean really hard.

sleek wadi
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More like actually bullshit

hollow shell
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"Cosmic Plushie" is the name of the item

junior marsh
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OH it says on the wiki something else

hollow shell
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It does not

real parrot
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yharon, moon lord, and DoG? that's a pretty lame combo ngl

pliant bone
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Why not Provi + DoG tbh
Yeah bad idea

junior marsh
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Well I can ad provi

proven tide
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@ashen warren nani?

sleek wadi
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The reason we don't have a Draedon's Remote but for sentinels is because there are a lot of unavoidable attack patterns. This would have the same issue

cyan lagoon
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No

real parrot
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Boss Rush would be more of a challenge tbh
this sounds like diet fargo's swarm

pliant bone
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It is a bad idea anyway in general.

cyan lagoon
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Adding more doesnt make it better

sleek wadi
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Unavoidable damage is not hard, it's just unfair bullshit

pliant bone
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How does one expect to dodge DoG and Yharon at the same time.

proven tide
hollow shell
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and then put Phantasmal Deathrays on top of that

ashen warren
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I just noticed you seem to star like every garbage suggestion.

junior marsh
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Ok I'll take out yharim

real parrot
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yharim
necrowheeze

hollow shell
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Take out the suggestion

sleek wadi
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Also with how the bosses work you would need to deal with DoG within the confines of Yharon's arena.

proven tide
ashen warren
proven tide
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only trash suggestions I've starred are this one because I hate myself and the bass cannon because I have special memories of that meme

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kek

sleek wadi
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DoG is designed with a long ass bridge in mind, so not only do you have conflicting patterns you also get conflicting design.

proven tide
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fight dog in a box

junior marsh
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Is that better if not I'll delete it

cyan lagoon
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Remove cosmic plushie

plush remnant
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Fight DoG only using RoD for movement

junior marsh
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So just ml?

cyan lagoon
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Replace it with 10 cosmilite bars + 5 NF/EE

hollow shell
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Replace it with:

junior marsh
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Ok

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BEGONE SUGGESTION

hollow shell
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Thank you

junior marsh
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Your welcome

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Also Begone myself

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Jk

jolly kettle
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Damb

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Gamers this is so sad

proven tide
ancient atlas
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okay first of all jungle is small enough as is with everything blowing it up

ashen warren
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There is a plague turtle.

proven tide
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^

ashen warren
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And a bat.

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New liquids are asking for bugs.

proven tide
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I'm down for plague juice

tired heron
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I know xD

jovial spire
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Mmm, delicious plauge juice

proven tide
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just slorp that filthy fucken carrion-filled bacterial soup

tired heron
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but poison as a liquid is just basic and as a builder, I couldnt be asking for more xD

jovial spire
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Tastes like black death

tired heron
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starbound did it, now terraria modders must follow ^^

proven tide
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looket me, I'm doin a tromp through the disintegrating slimy corpses of the innocent, closh smlosh

junior marsh
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That's seems like a good idea

ancient atlas
ashen warren
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The engine simply cannot handle too may liquids.

jovial spire
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Serisouly though imo plauge stuff only needs a bit more

junior marsh
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Sequence theres a thing called bug fixing

proven tide
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@ashen warren you're not legally allowed to question me

ashen warren
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You'd need to rewrite the game.

junior marsh
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Also a 500+ dollar computer

ancient atlas
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but seriously mini creeper terraria is written in 32 bit and trapped in 32 bit

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to get it out of 32 bit you'd need to remake the entire damn game

junior marsh
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I forgot what 32 bit was

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Oh heck I'm dumb

ashen warren
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Dradon has a mod that adds a new liquid and coding it has apparently been a nightmare.

tired heron
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I mean, nothing is impossible, we got that 3d mod recently as a proof of that xD

ancient atlas
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and because it's trapped in such a limited state the engine can only handle so many things at once

proven tide
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deadly lava 👀

ashen warren
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And that's with 64-bit tmodloader.

jovial spire
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Its not a new liquid

junior marsh
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Oh sequence, everything is a nightmare for some people but yes it could be a nightmare just for liquids

proven tide
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eeexactly

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you could make water in the plagued jungle be hella tooxiiiic

tired heron
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well TECHNICALLY, the sulphuric ocean got yellow water. so it wouldnt be that much hard to make honey/water greenish and poison!

proven tide
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looket ex+ ice water

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the sulphurous sea is the single worst example you could have used to defend our case

ancient atlas
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but to have the biome active you'd have to have so many blocks affected by the "plague"

proven tide
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you're hurting my fucking soul

tired heron
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muhahaha

proven tide
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let me have my fucking brain slime

ancient atlas
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and seeing as how fucked the jungle is already with the corruption eating it and other biomes cutting into it to get into there i don't think the plague would be a good idea

tired heron
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from where my suggestion of a new biome comes from ^^

junior marsh
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Yeah but upon entering water in the biome you start taking extra damage,and drown faster.

tired heron
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but yeah, just a thought 😛

junior marsh
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Maybe

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I think your idea is great winter

tired heron
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I'm just saying whatever I think would look great, tho it's far from refined ^^

ashen warren
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If it worked like the piss sea then yes that'd work.
Reword it to not be "new liquid" for clarification.
I'm pretty sure fab would never code a new liquid period.

junior marsh
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It would be good but sequence is right but doesnt take it out of the list.

ashen warren
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Why'd you remove it?

junior marsh
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Because you convinced him

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Great job

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Wait nvm

tired heron
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aaand there you go, I said it more clearly 😛

jovial spire
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Thats the story of almost all suggestion

tired heron
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ahah, true ^^

ashen warren
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There already is a turtle winter.

jovial spire
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Before you deleted the comment

tired heron
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wait really???!

jovial spire
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Yeah

proven tide
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I can't believe this

jovial spire
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its even in vannila

ashen warren
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No?

junior marsh
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Tire what if there was items inside the corruption jungle

ashen warren
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!wiki Plagueshell

red stormBOT
junior marsh
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Likr exclusive ones

proven tide
ashen warren
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It's calamity.

tired heron
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omg

proven tide
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had this whooole lecture planned about how bad an in-game viability guide would be

tired heron
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niiice ^^

proven tide
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and then he just fucken

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vanishes from chat

ashen warren
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Rip

tired heron
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well that shows how uncultured I am

jovial spire
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Dammit i keep frogeting whats vannila and whats calamity

proven tide
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low iq

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you frog

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froget

jovial spire
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Who?

proven tide
junior marsh
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I think you guys should just let the thing go and let tire have the suggestion, let's be real, it's pretty damn cool

proven tide
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In other news, all I want is infested waters. I think that'd actually be pretty neat.

junior marsh
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^

jovial spire
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Shut @proven tide

tired heron
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ahaha, my suggestion was made to face criticism, so I dont care ^^

junior marsh
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Eh mine did too

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Wasnt able to put my 2 up because everyone criticized it

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But whatever

ashen warren
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Mini, just because a suggestion has a good idea doesn't mean it's perfect.
Criticism is a fact of life, if you can't handle it then grow up.

tired heron
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hmm let me think of something

proven tide
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fight dog in a box

junior marsh
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Yes and your right, but are you not doing it like it's all out if you dont like it or someone else dorsnt

proven tide
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with 170 bees

ashen warren
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The entire purpose of pointing out flaws is so they can be better.

proven tide
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170 bees in a dog box

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170 dogs in a bee

junior marsh
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It seems like you want it gone entirely

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Because it would be hard to implement

ashen warren
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Did I say that?

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No.

junior marsh
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No read it says seems

proven tide
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Aight y'all shut fuck

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Professionalism time. Both of you are discussing the other, not the suggestion.

junior marsh
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May we take this to dms sequence so we dont bother these guys?

proven tide
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Yes, a mini-biome would be irritating in the Jungle. Yes, it may or may not be difficult to create plagued waters, although the old Chilled-in-arctic-waters mechanic makes me think otherwise (just inflict Plagued rather than Chilled).

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However, I think the concept is itself worth investigation

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So it gets a star

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If you don't, don't star it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tired heron
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who never converted a whole jungle to a big mushroom biome anyway*

ashen warren
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There's nothing else I need to say.
I'm here to make suggestions better, not to get people to delete them.

gusty geode
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Why doesn't the Plague biome have a blue check
That's one of the most frequently suggested ideas in the entire community, and I'm sure it's been sent to the dev server at least once

junior marsh
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I'm just dming

tired heron
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ahah, I am not that much original am I xD

junior marsh
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Your fine tire

proven tide
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self-stars

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no

junior marsh
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Wot?

jade dock
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This would be a good idea only if you were to expand the map like calamity did with planetoids. it would be a good source of gear to kill some harder bosses (perforators/ hive mind)

junior marsh
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Wait whose?

ashen warren
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I'm guessing the jungle suggestion.

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Fab doesn't like making fun items.

junior marsh
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You are free to criticize my idea :)

ashen warren
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Vanities and whatever.

junior marsh
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Lul syntax error

ashen warren
junior marsh
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Ok right there is proof

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Clap to you

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Syntax error crashes game

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Lol

hybrid ocean
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he just got traumatised with the LORDE and won't do joke/fun items anymore lol

junior marsh
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Okay!

hybrid ocean
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jk

junior marsh
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I thought you were not joking

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Omegalul

ashen warren
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He just thinks it's a waste of time.
That kind of stuff is better suited for calamity's vanities.

hybrid ocean
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yep, calamity vanities

junior marsh
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Fair enough

hybrid ocean
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gon do a pet of every hecking npc in the game

ashen warren
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SInce hypera was annoyed with fab and made the mod out of spite.

junior marsh
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OOOOOO just got an idea before my post imma ask

hybrid ocean
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they even got a bobbit worm pet i think

junior marsh
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What if there was a confetti gun that actually did spread damage

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For each confetti was a pellet maybe?

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Maybe not I just thought of it off the top of my head

ashen warren
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That's essentially the overloaded blaster.

junior marsh
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Oh ye

ashen warren
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But with confetti.

junior marsh
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True but what if it was early game

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Like early hm

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Idk if overload is early hm

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Lol

ashen warren
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Early hm tends to be weird with massive AoE effects.
They're most of the time OP as fuck.

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Dynamite and water bolt for example.

junior marsh
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Mhm

ashen warren
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Beenades aren't really early.

junior marsh
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Meh there like in the middle of pre boss and WoF

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Any ideas on my suggestion? Or criticism?

hollow shell
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@tired heron "shivers"?

tired heron
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wait 2 sec, I'm looking for the exact term

junior marsh
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K

hollow shell
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Do you mean shortswords?

tired heron
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yeah that

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wasnt it like shiv?

hollow shell
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Yeah, shiv

junior marsh
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Ye ok

tired heron
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excuse my bad english*

junior marsh
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Take my star you millenial jk

hollow shell
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Not sure how well that'd play out
considering shortswords are pretty firmly melee

tired heron
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true, but the way I see it, rogues are classes that focus mainly stealth (as I said in the suggestion), just find that it would make sense to see them go in this class

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I'm not talking of shortswords in general, but the ones calamity adds

ashen warren
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So, 🏁?

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Melee-esque weapons anyway.

placid moth
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What if vampire knives were rogue

tired heron
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I played a lot with shivs in the past, and I just see those fit super well in this category ^^

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quick and big damages! what do you want more 😉

hollow shell
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Nah it wouldn't get the flag cuz it's not implemented yet

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but
aight

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makes sense

junior marsh
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Idk about my suggestion but yours is good winter

tired heron
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pretty hard to do suggestions that werent made before in a server with 30k peep in it isnt it? ^^

junior marsh
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I like yours but isnt guaranteed b1 he just said there are gonna be different

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Yr

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Yeah

hollow shell
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Also you should add a reason why to your suggestion, Mini Creeper

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I'd also prefer if you expanded on it a bit. The idea seems very general

junior marsh
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Okay

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That better?

hollow shell
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(proofreading aside) Yes, thank you

junior marsh
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You are welcome

quiet abyss
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@leaden sorrel Cosmolight is disabled while any boss is alive so you can't cheese boss with it anyways

tired heron
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i dunno, I kind of like the convenience of beeing able to switch between day and night. Making it more difficult would just be a tad more annoying in my opinion 😛

sleek wadi
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I wouldn't say that it makes the game easier considering it can't proc random events, so it's only there for convenience. At best it can be used for immediately ending event moons and skipping eclipses and blood moons.

proven tide
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@viral thicket maybe expand upon that suggestion to give the devs a bit of indication as to what you're looking for & the other users reason to star?

viral thicket
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like some ideas for accessories or why we need some

placid moth
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yes

proven tide
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Both?

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Yes.

fervent zealot
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like an idea for what it would be

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not just "we need x in y part of the game", but rather "y part of game is missing something, so i propose x"

viral thicket
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I mean, I'll try to think of something but I just wanted to throw the thought out there

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because there are absolutely no expansions for the yo-yo bag and yo-yos in Post Moon Lord are kinda meh until the Terrarian upgrade

proven tide
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maybe one that increases yoyo range?

viral thicket
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I was thinking of yo-yos that can automatically target enemies OWO

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kinda like minions, but with yoyos lol

ashen warren
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@proven tide yoyo range scales with melee speed

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Not just white string

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who told you that

fervent zealot
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that's wrong but also right

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because yoyos bug out at higher melee speeds, resulting in wack ass range :ech:

ashen warren
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god damn it

viral thicket
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What if there was a wireless yoyo with no string attaching it 02Happy

sinful steeple
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That would just be a flamelash/magic missile/every other magic missile clone

viral thicket
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true lol

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except it scales with melee damage owothink

lyric flax
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I saw this suggestion all the way back
About young siren. I kinda want it back to its former state. But instead of giving the light stuff as bright as it was before. Perhaps this?
Pre-hm it gives a little more then the dark orb/heart lightpet
In hardmode pre-plantera it is nearly as bright as the fairy bell
And post plant its as bright as the wisp

(And then that final light pet mentioned as well for ultimate light pet with cuteness)

Sorry to bring this up again. I still use the young siren even in its current state. There is no other lightpet for me....

void river
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Hmmm; what if Yharon got a new "flamethrower" type attack?

ashen warren
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Yharon already literally makes it rain fire.

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Spaz flamethrower wouldn't do much other than make dashes almost impossible if they had it.

quiet abyss
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Yharon already has a lot of stuffs in his arsenals
Spraying fast dust flares everywhere, placing delayed aimed dust flares, spawning detonating flames, charges, flarenadoes and infernadoes, bumblebirbs, homing meteors and carpet bomb meteors.

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I don't think he needs another move into his arsenal when his moveset is already completed as it is.
Also not to mention he's already challenging enough for everyone slobbyjoy

lyric flax
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yharon is good where he is. my biggest hurdle is his rain of fire xD

swift wharf
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i was thinking like , a upgrade for typhon's greed and amidias trident

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that left click you spin it and right click it attacks like a normal spear

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2 homing water things or smth

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how does it sound like ?

ashen warren
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..Is it right click for the spear half?

swift wharf
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oh ye ;-;

ashen warren
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And when would this be exactly?
In progression I mean.

swift wharf
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i was thinking like

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maybe post polterghast as the 4th layer is unlocked

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of the abyss

ashen warren
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Crafted from reaper teeth then?

swift wharf
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yeah

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and lumenyl

ashen warren
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So, it's a neat concept I guess.
Be sure to read the pins in here and #suggestions-voting.
There are formatting guides and stuff to think about.
Remember to be specific and always have a "why"

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make it post prov pls thank

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make melee uncontested hahayes

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though that wouldn't fit so nvm

swift wharf
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the thing is i dont have a good reason to add it , it just sounded cool ;-;

ashen warren
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Are there any melee weps post prov aside from Mirror Blade and Aquatic Dissolution? Which both are not used

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or I guess, barely used

swift wharf
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tarragon gear ?

jolly flint
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holy collider

ashen warren
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o

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Ultisword.

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Exoblade.

pliant bone
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Oh nvm.

swift wharf
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there aren't any spear-like weapons after prov (only banshee hook)

radiant meadow
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there's stream gouge post doggo

livid coral
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In re: Shivs I've wanted those to be a rogue item for awhile now.

ashen warren
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Spy class when

keen nebula
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(I feel tres bon!)

ornate pecan
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Spy: Surprize, buttsects

sinful steeple
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That just gave me an idea

languid dome
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do you think it would be kinda cool/useful if some pets could fight along side you?

lost agate
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Then they wouldnt be pet

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Just yet another summon

languid dome
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Some of them just seem like they'd have some sort of combat capabilities. Like the Chibi Devourer, Baby Dinosaur, and the Black Cat

lost agate
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Then again

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They wouldnt be pets

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Theyre meant to just follow you around

delicate raft
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Obsidian Skin Potion wasn't nerfed iirc

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Actually it was buffed

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The thing is that lava is buffed a ducking lot in rev+

small talon
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ik that the reason i realized about the nerf is that i was just on my death mode character and went to mine hellstone, made some obsidian skin potions and went down to hell to mine some hellstone. I found after entering lava that it was timed. also lava isnt too much of an annoyance at all. water walking and obsidian skin potions are both pretty cheap

hollow shell
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Isn't Lethal Lava Burn a config option?

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Or, just Rev+?

delicate raft
hollow shell
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Alright, nevermind then

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I question the phrasing of "makes me believe making the immunity time is useless"

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Whatre you trying to say there? @small talon

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@candid mantle Could you add a reason why to your suggestion?

frail mantle
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since it's your first suggestion here's a tip: there's a format in the pins in #suggestions-voting , it'll make your suggestions look a bit more clean

hollow shell
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You too, @dense oriole
Could you add a reason why to your suggestion?

covert shard
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whoops.

hollow shell
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(I'm a bit late but eh might as well)

covert shard
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I didn't know there were any rules xd

hollow shell
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Your suggestion is fine, Nemurase
but yes do read the rules and other pins

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In this channel and Suggestions itself

covert shard
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Thank you for mentioning them

hollow shell
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(always read pins)

small talon
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im trying to say that its a pain to always have to go up and "get air" or replenish your lava immunity every literal seven seconds. The lava damage is perfectly fine im all for more lethal lava but the having to replenish it constantly is what is annoying while mining hellstone.

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sorry for late reply i was fighting slime gods

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didnt hear ping

hollow shell
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You could add that to your suggestion

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It'd help make it clearer what exactly youre askin for

small talon
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k

hollow shell
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Nice 👍

sinful steeple
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I made an auric orange as a joke, but now I'm seriously contemplating if it should be like a post-Yharon celestial onion/demon trophy

lucid marsh
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Hey, I have a weapon idea or 3 but I don’t know if I should make it 1 weapon or 3, and if it’s good. It’s 3 different minions based on the weather trio from Pokémon: Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. These are pigmy style, sharknado style, and a stardust dragon style minions respectively. The dragon one would be a fixed number of segments so it wouldn’t be as bad to code though. Is this a good suggestion? They’d be late prehardmode minions created from hellstone bars and rubies, abyss gravel and sapphires, and arealite bars and emeralds respectively. They’d all require a small number of post-skeleton materials as well so that they’re all at the same level. Reason: there aren’t many great minion options between queen bee and early hardmode, this would fill that gap. Possibly could have an upgrade in hardmode to either combine all 3 into a single minion slot OR buff any single one of them as their own minion.

radiant meadow
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if you mean 8th acc, that would be quite overpowered

frail mantle
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also i think accessory slots are hard-capped at 7

radiant meadow
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you mean an option besides herring for slime god?

lucid marsh
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Yes

sinful steeple
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I was also thinking of buffing spawn rates more, again saying that it does something that cannot be reversed, and then you use it expecting more accessories but instead you get kicked in the balls

radiant meadow
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or slimes for wall of flesh smug

lucid marsh
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Option for slime god, WoF, Cryogen, and maybe more if upgraded

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I’m considering making kyogre and groudon just post eater of worlds or hive mind and rayquaza post skeletron

radiant meadow
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if it's just one weapon, I would assume it would only be usable once?

lucid marsh
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I’m thinking making 3 different weapons that combine into 1 in hardmode OR 1 weapon with all 3 (using the weapon again toggles which is out) so that you can only have one of them at a time, and turning them into 3 weapons in hardmode with a single one but stronger. Maybe some combination

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Best option is probably 1 weapon in prehardmode that turns into 3 alternate stronger ones or 1 that has all 3 at once. Both hardmode ones could be used more than once.

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This would also make it good for multi class since you can only have one anyways

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So, what do you guys think?

cyan horizon
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reee

void kelp
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oh I like that idea

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tiny stormweaver would be like a weaker mechworm, tiny cv would be super cool too as would mini signus

hollow shell
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@cyan horizon You should say "summon weapon" and not "summoning item" so that it's not confused for a boss summoning item (i.e. Suspicious Looking Eye or Profaned Core)

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Thanks

void kelp
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it’d be a good alternative to staff of the mechworm probably

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maybe to parallel the naming structure of Entropy’s Vigil, it could be called Providence’s Bane?

radiant meadow
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pillar coding is pain pain

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and like, where would the pillar go?

restive karma
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We can divide the sections the pillars spawn in into 5ths

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Wait wouldnt that make a pillar spawn at original spawn

radiant meadow
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which is bad

restive karma
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Well scrap that i guess

swift wharf
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or

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make it like thorium/tremor

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the normal pillars drop modded fragments

radiant meadow
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I think it's fine as it stands

swift wharf
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ye

radiant meadow
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keep in mind that meld blobs don't only make 2 weapons

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they make like 5 or 6

swift wharf
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throwing armor with only one weapon lel

void kelp
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ain’t meld blobs dropped by lunatic cultist?

jovial spire
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Yeah

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nebula pillar enemies too

dusty stirrup
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Fabsol would never want to add another pillar lmao

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He already despises the lunar invasion enough

delicate raft
quick dove
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may i ask why @dusty stirrup

dusty stirrup
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They drag on too long

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Every playthrough

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They're cool the first few times you go thro them, but they're just "eh" for him now

lost agate
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The ammount of enemies you gotta kill got lowered by calamity so like uh

dusty stirrup
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That made it even worse yeah

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Honestly, if the pillar was a bit more involved, they'd be much cooler imo

lost agate
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150 enemies sweating

dusty stirrup
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I don't recall the nebula pillar even doing anything

lost agate
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Uh

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The blackout effect?

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No wait thats an enemy

dusty stirrup
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Yeah

lost agate
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._.

dusty stirrup
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To my knowledge, nebula does nothing to affect you

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Solar shoots some fire meteors, Vortex spawns portals with either lightning or wasps and Stardust can summon more enemies

lost agate
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Which one gave you the flipped debuff?

quick dove
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''The Nebula Pillar is the only Pillar that doesn't have any kind of attack, although it is best that the player still watch out for its minions.''

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yeah nebula does nothing

dusty stirrup
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You mean the gravity thing debuff? That's the vortex wasps' projectile

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The queen wasps specifically

lost agate
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Ech

dusty stirrup
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Also now I'm wondering, what kind of enemies do you think that Xeroc pillar could spawn? @restive karma

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Considering, you know, they all have a theme

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@jade dock Try putting your whole suggestion in one sentence next time

lost agate
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Also

dusty stirrup
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....

hybrid ocean
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lo

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l

jade dock
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OK

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Like

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This?

proven tide
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exactly like what you didn't just do

lost agate
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Theres lke a brutal ton of class specific armors mind you

dusty stirrup
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Your suggestion is hella messy, it'd be nice if you could clean it up

jade dock
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Not post ML (to my knowledge)

lost agate
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Well thats wrong

jade dock
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Besides Omega gear

hybrid ocean
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i think he means a full class set for a class

lost agate
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Oh that

hybrid ocean
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not just a helmet

dusty stirrup
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Omega isn't even class specific

jade dock
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Yes

lost agate
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Why tf would we need that?

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Like theres literally no need for one

jade dock
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It would make class specific runs more fun

lost agate
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....

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How

jade dock
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Instead of only using the same buffs and armour every time

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you could vary the playthrough a bit

lost agate
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Its not the same buffs and armor

jade dock
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Pretty much

dusty stirrup
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Just gonna mention you only asked for one specific armor set that I'm not even sure what it'd do

lost agate
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You use another buffs and the armor have different effects

dusty stirrup
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That doesn't exactly fix the problem you're seeing

lost agate
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^

jade dock
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Give a fire affect to mage weapons

dusty stirrup
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Ataxia

lost agate
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Fire effect on post ML necrowheeze

dusty stirrup
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If that's gonna be the only set bonus, that's just not even worth getting

lost agate
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^

jade dock
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Ok. it was worth a shot

dusty stirrup
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Besides, what would it be crafted with? Solar Fragments? Solar armor exists

lost agate
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I give you permission to remove reaction for low effort mood

frosty kindle
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that's some huge fragmenting over there...

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also, lack of detail.

void kelp
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it’s kind of misleading ngl + very vague

dusty stirrup
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Yeah I told him all about that

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He doesn't seem to care

void kelp
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why doesn’t he discuss them here first before submitting a suggestion

dusty stirrup
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No one knos

proven tide
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see

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brynhildir out here destroying the stereotype of discord default pfps making bad suggestions

void kelp
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it’s a good suggestion

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also, @jade dock your ideas are very creative, but I feel that they really would fit better in their own mod versus in calamity

hybrid ocean
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also, it's phoenix

proven tide
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Yeah, but in the same way that plauge is actually plague, nobody seems to care enough

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unfortunate

dense oriole
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@hollow shell cuz candy cone rifle and nailgun totally "useless" in calamity mod, so i wanna make that bit "useful".

hollow shell
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Add that to the suggestion.

hybrid ocean
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plauge birnger goliaht

hollow shell
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Also, Punisher, your ideas are fine and could also fit into Calamity
The problem is that you're terrible at formatting your suggestions suffering

jade dock
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Help then?

void kelp
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  1. offer your suggestions here before you put them in the suggestion channel
hollow shell
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One big one is to make sure your entire suggestion is in one message

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don't send it across multiple

jade dock
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OK. speedrunnung gear and weapons. levi mentioned that he cant do a speedrun because it would take too long. the gear would scale and basically be good ofr speedrunners.

frosty kindle
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also make sure everything has proper detail, or we won't know (and also devs will have no clue what to do)

hybrid ocean
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also, i think your phoenix armor idea should also have something else than fire DoT and reviving effect, as Silva armor already has the revive effect, maybe it could also increase wing speed/duration.

frosty kindle
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also the On Fire! debuff is practically useless in Post-ML especially when most magic weapons inflict better debuffs in the first place

void kelp
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to make it more interesting it’d need counterparts w other classes too but those can be their own separate suggestion

hollow shell
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Scaling weapons and other gear are a no-no

jade dock
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Why?

frosty kindle
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scaling gear = no need to actually grind/farm for other gear

void kelp
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pretty sure the only scaling things are dedicated items

sleek wadi
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On Fire! is practically useless flat out.

hollow shell
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Legendary Weapons used to scale throughout the game, but that function was removed because people would only use Legendary Weapons and nothing else for the entire game

sleek wadi
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The only time when 4 DPS matters is pre-boss

hollow shell
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Fab wanted to increase playthrough variety

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and give other weapons a chance to shine

dense oriole
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What bout halibut

jade dock
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It would only be for, say, a speedrunner mode. Not the normal game

void kelp
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that one is a dedicated item

sleek wadi
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Also Calamity is perfectly speedrun viable

hollow shell
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And it's also stupidly rare

void kelp
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calamity isn’t a speedrunning alone mod

hollow shell
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and it's also nerfed sad

frosty kindle
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implementing a speedrun mode is useless as is, speedrunning is dedicated to completing normal games in record time

void kelp
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it’s like. hectique speedruns it but idk if anyone else does lol

frosty kindle
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no need to create an altered, separated mode just for speedrunners

proven tide
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Yeah, so it's only the single most broken weapon in the first half of the game by a significant margin, rather than a stupid one

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Halibut nerf slobbyjoy

frosty kindle
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also 1/1,000,000 droprate LUL

hollow shell
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If you farm in the Abyss and get the 1 millionth droprate then

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good job

void kelp
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they should’ve made it rarer /s

dense oriole
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Defiled rune works?

hollow shell
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Nope

sleek wadi
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No

proven tide
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whhaaat

jade dock
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Ok. scratch the old idea. What about an adventure map to show the lore of certain characters

sleek wadi
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On that note is Yharim's Crystal still exempt from Deflied?

frosty kindle
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are there any other rare items that do NOT follow the effects of defiled? yharim's crystal?

frosty kindle
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nice font HyperFailure

hollow shell
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I believe Yharim's Crystal is still exempt yes

proven tide
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^

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Thanks uwu

hollow shell
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Also, about the adventure maps, that's a bit of a big commitment thing to do for not a whole lot of gain, in terms of the Calamity dev team
Seems like something that would be community-made

void kelp
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a calamity adventure map wouldn’t be a dev project, yeah

hollow shell
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It'd be cool to have, yes
but
not a very good use of devs time in my opinion

void kelp
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that’s more like. a fan project.

frosty kindle
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since there are a whole list of other more important developer jobs/goals

sleek wadi
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Adventure maps don't really mesh well with Terraria anyway

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They work in Minecraft because inventories are locked to worlds compared to Terraria where it is locked to the character.

hollow shell
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Well as long as you actually care and don't cheat then it's fine

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iunno why you'd download an adventure map and then don't do as it intends, technicals-wise

frosty kindle
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the endgame bosses, polishing, fixes, weapon additions, biomes, and countless more things are on the dev team's minds more than adventure maps/mode

jade dock
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Why would you cheat? you can cheat all of calamity via heros mod. but you dont, do you?

hollow shell
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Indeed

civic rampart
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No wonder I killed more than 200 minibosses and then still didn't get it

void kelp
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i think other game modes fit the same concept of “not exactly something that is within the scope of the developers to implement while also doing what they have”

ashen warren
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Again?

hybrid ocean
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i have an idea, what if after beating a certain boss, granite enemies became stronger and summon enemies called Pulsing Energy which acted like Dungeon Spirits and dropped an item with the same name? they would be used to craft slow but strong weapons with high knockback

It could give some love to the granite biome as Calamity doesn't even touch this biome

void kelp
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ooooo

hybrid ocean
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imagine having good english

void kelp
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what if they became another source for essences and souls or whatever?

hybrid ocean
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i don't think that'd fit actually

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they aren't ice, chaos or sky/sun related so no essences

hollow shell
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Alternatively
more Marnite content

hybrid ocean
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yes

hollow shell
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cuz that's what little thing Calamity does with Marble & Granite atm

hybrid ocean
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oh right

void kelp
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!! marnite content seems cool

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ngl I thought the onyx blaster+ were related to the marnite tree

frosty kindle
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i even forgot the marinite ranged weapon's name

hybrid ocean
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opal striker

hollow shell
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Marnite Rifle Spear

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is the other one

void kelp
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did it get upgraded beyond that?

frosty kindle
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Opal striker was the metagame until KB got removed iirc

hollow shell
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Magna Striker is technically Marnite I guess

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Opal Striker's just marble

frosty kindle
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!wiki Marinite Rifle Spear

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welp, i spelt it wrong i guess

hollow shell
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beep boop

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Calamity Mod Wiki

The Marnite Rifle Spear is a craftable Pre-Hardmode gun that can be considered an alternative to the Musket or Undertaker. Though it requires the player to find Granite and Marble biomes, its relatively low cost and decent rate of fire make the Marnite Rifle Spear an excellen...

dense oriole
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Mamite rifle spear

frosty kindle
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but yeah i do feel the RoF needs to increase regarding how low the base damage is compared to the Musket which can be obtained much easier by yeeting yourself towards a shadow orb

hybrid ocean
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what if marble and granite got their own weapons along with marnite? marble would have high speed, low damage weapons while granite got high knockback and damage but low speed weapons.
Marnite would get 2 weapons per class which had these characteristics depending on the dominant material on the sprite/recipe

quick dove
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oh yes granite and marble content

void kelp
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oh yeah, keep going

dense oriole
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What is RoF

frosty kindle
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rate of fire

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marnite rifle spear's RoF is way too low for its pitiful base dmg

hybrid ocean
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like, a marnite cannon which would look more like granite and a rifle which looked more like marble, or a hammer that had more granite appearance and a sword that had more marble than granite etc.

dense oriole
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Marnite rifle spear doesn't have "spear attack", why that is rifle "spear"?

hybrid ocean
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because bayoneted weapons look cool

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anyways i'll post the marnite suggestion

hollow shell
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It'd be cool if Marnite Rifle Spear could also damage enemies with its actual gun portion

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It'd be very easy to code too

hybrid ocean
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alternatively, it could have a right click attack, just because

frosty kindle
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would coding a "melee" on the spear be as simple as adding a hitbox on the model while its firing?

hollow shell
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.. actually nvm it'd require some reformatting

frosty kindle
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though an actual right click where it functions like a proper melee spear would be dope

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will it do melee damage, then?

hybrid ocean
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true melee gun

leaden swift
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a spear is actually a projectile

hollow shell
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Some weapons have visual-only projectiles
which you can easily set to deal damage or not

but some things have visuals that aren't projectiles, particularly plain guns like Marnite Rifle Spear is

hybrid ocean
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everything except for npcs are proyectiles including minions

hollow shell
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That's

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that's not true

hybrid ocean
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well, tiles aren't proyectiles either

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happy?

frosty kindle
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why do i hear boss music

lost agate
hollow shell
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Surprisingly enough, gores aren't projectiles.

hybrid ocean
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wth really?

lost agate
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Yeah

hollow shell
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They're their own thing.

hybrid ocean
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terraria be like

frosty kindle
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terraria code and certain properties are unpredictable

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typical RedCode™

hybrid ocean
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terraria code is just...

void kelp
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redcode, ?

hybrid ocean
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well, terraria code

hollow shell
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Anyway

dusty stirrup
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Marnite Rifle Spear already can hurt enemies on contact btw

frosty kindle
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oh

void kelp
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does it deal true melee damage

dusty stirrup
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Its damage will be the wep's base damage

hollow shell
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Damn it
I was looking for item.noMelee = false;
But all variables are false by default so it doesn't need to include it

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heck

dusty stirrup
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It's still a ranged wep though, so it won't affect true melee stuff

frosty kindle
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that could be put in trivia or in the main text body of the wiki page then

dusty stirrup
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Yeah I added it like 1 or 2 weeks ago, but it's not very visible

frosty kindle
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ohh i see it now

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i wonder, though

dusty stirrup
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I put it on its own line

frosty kindle
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does the contact damage only hit once, or constantly (at a certain dmg-per X-frames/seconds)?

hollow shell
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She added that 1 millisecond ago

dusty stirrup
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It's like a melee weapon, so I'd assume that, yes

lost agate
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I think it would be better worded if it said "the gun itself deals contact dmg"

hollow shell
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I'm editin it too

eager ivy
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i 100% agree on the birb pheromones reduced price

frosty kindle
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tbh couldn't be more true

hybrid ocean
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Marble n' Granite Expansion

Right now Marble/Granite lack a lot of content, even Space got more content than them, so i'll suggest some things that will take these biomes from "Oh look, granite biome" from "Oh yes! i've been searching for this!"

First, Granite weapons specialized on High knockback/damage but low speed, because y'know, enemies there are based on blocking/high defense.
We are talking Cannons with big AoE, Hammers that make the ground literally shake, Magic Staffs that generate pillars from the ground sending your enemies to the planetoids, etc.

Marble weapons would be specialized on low/medium damage but high speed, maybe even debuffs like Medusa.
Like Light-Speed Swords to slash those hoplites into bone dust (haha references), Guns to make them look like cheese from all those holes or Staves that shoot stalactites from the sky!

guess what, you can't suggest marble and granite without Marnite stuff too!
Marnite weapons would have 2 weapons for each class, one would be mostly granite while the other one is mostly marble.
let's say, mostly Marble weapons would be daggers, pistols, wands, rifles, spears, etc.
and mostly Granite Weapons would be Mortars, Cannons, Staves, Hammers, Flails, Grenades, etc.
there's a lot of possible weapons!

This would give a lot of variety of weapons to use, and would help granite and marble get some content.

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what do y'all think

quick dove
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ones ec

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i 100% fuckin love this

frosty kindle
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i second this^

quick dove
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granite and marble biomes are just ignored when doing playthroughs other than ''hey small chest and building block''

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i agree on giving it more attention and weapons

hollow shell
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Content is 👍 ❤
Though, slight formatting suggestion

Only have 1 line break after the "First, Granite..." line, the "Marble weapons..." line, and the "Marnite weapons..." line, instead of 2
So that their explanations are more connected with their topic sentences

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Makes it easier to read

quick dove
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please post it on suggestions so i can star it

frosty kindle
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ye, what rover said will make your suggestion more smooth than the actual smooth granite/marble blocks LUL

dusty stirrup
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Yeah that'd be pretty cool

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I'm gonna bet Oasis will be as empty as granite

hollow shell
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Oasis'll probably be more like Pyramids than Granite/Marble caves

dusty stirrup
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prolly

frosty kindle
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Oasis is just a touchup on surface desert because underground desert is never gonna change in vanilla

ashen warren
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make your favorite weapon viable?

hollow shell
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@radiant pivot Cool idea, but Fab (and other devs) are against making weapons scale throughout the entire game

ashen warren
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im a little confused on how that would work

quick dove
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because when legendary weapons did that

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everyone used them for the entire game

frosty kindle
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simply put, weapon scaling kinda got people to just farm for a legendary (or other scaling) weapon and then never crafted anything else

proven tide
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ono ono on o on oo o no

ashen warren
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oh

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that's a little broken HDfailure

dusty stirrup
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ngl that thing sounds like it'd be extremely painful to program

hollow shell
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It does a bit

dusty stirrup
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not to mention all the issues you'll run into

restive karma
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@dusty stirrup answering the question you posted earlier, i was thinking like mutants made of teeth, flesh, and some flying assassins

dusty stirrup
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aight

radiant pivot
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or maybe it could scale up for a few bossfights and then require more crafting to get it to scale again?

frosty kindle
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even the xeroc pillar could be made of the teeth and other blob/flesh matter

hollow shell
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You could add those ideas to your suggestion, FrostInferno

restive karma
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Well its kinda buried. Besides, i kinda need names slobbyjoy

hollow shell
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Not necessarily

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You can literally just append the second half that sentence into the suggestion :P

restive karma
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:v ok gimmie a fee

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Few

queen delta
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Honestly while I'd like rogue to have more support, I also don't wanna deal with another pillar

hollow shell
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I do actually like Avalon's suggestion
And, if it were at all possible, I would like to have it

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(but it's probably not possible in the slightest)

dusty stirrup
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No one would want to program that

hollow shell
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Exactly

queen delta
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I was thinking instead, we add rogue fragments which can make 2 rogue weapons (like other classes pillars) but split them up among the 4 pillars

hollow shell
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Thorium-like

queen delta
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Thorium did that?

hollow shell
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ye

restive karma
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Yes, with bard and healer fragments

marsh gust
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with bard n healer yea

hybrid ocean
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what if instead of a Xeroc pillar, a xeroc-related Mini-Boss spawns when the pillars are defeated

hollow shell
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and SacredTools / Shadows of Abaddon

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iirc did the same

dusty stirrup
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You'd be forced to fight ML

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Which kinda ruins the point of having it be pillar tier

hybrid ocean
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or they spawn anywhere while pillars are alive

dusty stirrup
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That's better yeah

hollow shell
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(I smell BlackHand)

hybrid ocean
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Maybe when lunatic cultist is defeated it'd say something like "A Part of The Cosmic Horror has fallen on the World!" or something like that to indicate they are spawning

restive karma
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I think comet pillar sounds like a suiting name. Probably not

radiant pivot
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Nova pillar?

hybrid ocean
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doesn't tremor do that

restive karma
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Yea Henkhenk

hybrid ocean
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i know a mod adds a nova pillar

frosty kindle
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ohh i remember when BlackHand did xeroc enemy suggestions

hybrid ocean
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it's kinda hard to make a suggestion regarding something that just says a few things in the boss rush

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does xeroc even have a body? i just picture him as a skinless amorfous humanoid

dusty stirrup
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Giant moth god

proven tide
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xeroc is giant fuckin cosmic booty

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each cheek is a different slime boss

hybrid ocean
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oh gOd

hollow shell
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Well don't forget Xeroc armor

hybrid ocean
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the hole is goozma

hollow shell
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and equipment

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s'kinda something to go off of

proven tide
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scal is sans

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*instaban*

wooden wigeon
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i thought ravager was sans

hybrid ocean
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wait was xeroc used to make armor or did he do it himself

proven tide
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Ravager is SCal

restive karma
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Well the armor has a lore iirc

hybrid ocean
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ye

proven tide
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It was his

hollow shell
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(supposedly, ooo) Xeroc armor is made out of Xeroc

proven tide
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Once worn by what can only be described as a monster

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It is said that the armor was made from the flesh, teeth, and nails of its original owner

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xeroc wore armour made of his own flesh

hybrid ocean
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how

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how does that even work

hollow shell
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By bein a badass

wooden wigeon
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hyper regeneration?

hybrid ocean
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maybe

hollow shell
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also I have a feeling there are more than one animals that do exactly that

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wear themselves as armor

wooden wigeon
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giant cosmic turtle moth?

hollow shell
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prolly insects

proven tide
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turtles, insects, pangolins

hybrid ocean
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maybe the "monster" mentioned wasn't Xeroc, probably not

restive karma
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I like the conversation i make from a suggestion that kept bugging me

hollow shell
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I wasn't really meaning like, natural body armor
Because of course those exist

I'm talkin like, repurposing shed body material into armor

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s'gotta happen somewhere, right?

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some animal?

hybrid ocean
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maybe

hollow shell
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anyway

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I'm gonna stop bein an idiot

hybrid ocean
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probably insects, becuase insects are weird af

proven tide
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nah

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my arthropod bois don't tend to do that

hybrid ocean
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don't tend

restive karma
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i like how this is still going

hybrid ocean
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hint: it's not

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anyways let's keep talking about Xeroc Stuff, i actually want things related to him

ashen warren
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How about a xeroc boss

hollow shell
jade dock
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Combination armour sets- upgrading dfense of old armour that you liked but is now outclassed with another one to combine the abilities and more defence (to keep it viable.) maye basic stat boosts

ashen warren
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Titanium + Daedelaus

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Titanium + anything tbh

hollow shell
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(Titanium's nerfed in Calamity)

restive karma
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By half right

radiant meadow
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doesn't stop it from being OP though LUL

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same to daedalus stormbow

ashen warren
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Auric Titanium when

hollow shell
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but uh
again, neat idea Punisher
But having that phrased so generally means it's probably going to be super hard to program

hybrid ocean
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alternativelly, more upgrades to existing calamity armors would be cool, as it's exclusive to post-ML armors

eager ivy
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wait titanium is nerfed?

hollow shell
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It'd be better to suggest specific upgrades, yes

ashen warren
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Doesn't say so in the wiki iirc

restive karma
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you never said about my idea sors

hybrid ocean
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mollusk + omega blue maybe? both are water themed

sleek wadi
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Constellation Prize
Post-Providence Flail
Crafted at ancient manip with:
20 Astral Bars
50 Stardust
5 Uelibloom Bars
5 Galactica Singularities

Upon hitting an enemy or tile, the flail stops in place and shoots out another flail at a slight angle before staying in place. The spawned flails can only hit an enemy after a very short delay. This can happen 7 times max, and if it does the flails explode and the weapon autofires again. Releasing the mouse button retracts the flails. Unaffected by gravity.

Post-ML Melee is a sword fest with like, 6-7 not sword weapons. Flails also get no love despite all the neat effects you could do with them. This would give melee a flail to use until they get Cosmic Discharge, adds more weapons for the underrepresented weapon type, and is something a bit more interesting than another fucking sword.

hollow shell
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It's a Revengeance Mode nerf actually

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not all Calamity, sorry

ashen warren
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First off, that name is ech

hollow shell
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It's both "Titanium armor's Shadow Dodge set bonus lasts 6 seconds instead of 30." and "Immunity frames are capped at 2 seconds."
Double-nerf

restive karma
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Adamantite is finally viable slobbyjoy

hollow shell
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Also that's a nice pun, Spark
Not sure if it's entirely fitting but it is nice

restive karma
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Sounds more like an elemental flail to me

hollow shell
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Not sure how you get that impression

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oh, you mean the name?

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Maybe

restive karma
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Cuz constellations

hollow shell
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It'd have the word "Elemental" in it

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s'the case for all elemental weapons except Planetary Annihilation, which is an exception because it wasn't originally elemental

restive karma
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Elemental armor replacing the old xeroc armor slobbyjoy

hollow shell
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I'd be cool with Elemental Armor

restive karma
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Just mishmash all celestial armors

sleek wadi
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When I was thinking about the weapon I WAS planning to have it around Astrum Deus tier but then Nebulash ruined my hopes and dreams. Then I was thinking about placing it around pillars but then Solar Eruption blasted it to bits.

ashen warren
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Planetary Annihilation still goes "pew"

hollow shell
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so now it's between Eruption and Mourningstar :P

ashen warren
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phm Solar flare when

hollow shell
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I assume this is a traditional flail though, right?

sleek wadi
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Yes

hollow shell
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aight

restive karma
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Yeah more true melee in a mod where you have to not die to contact damage slobbyjoy

jade dock
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Ok. how about combining class specific sets i.e spectre gear (why i brought this up) and the set+ class specific helmet of a many class set, i.e bloodflare. it would buff spectre and make it viablee by even DOG and maybe that jungle dragon. you could combine other class specific sets with other many class sets as well (i havent thought of them yet. maybe turtle and xeroc? something else?)

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I just want spectre gear tbh

hybrid ocean
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what about a rogue armor/helmet that increased speed and depending of your actual speed you start gaining stealth, when you have full stealth you gain 700% increased damage for your next hit, but take triple damage from any attack you receive during that

hollow shell
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Vanity slots SmugBrimmy

sleek wadi
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Combined armors should be themed if they happen at all. For example, how about combining Solar Flare, Beetle, and some divine geodes to make a Providence-based armor. Profaned enemies are a bunch of flaming insects so the recipe fits.

hybrid ocean
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actually scaling sounds cool, but you'd have to do it right

restive karma
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But providence is a flying propane tank

hollow shell
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An upgraded Spectre armor would totally use Ruinous Souls
but those're already used to make 2 armor sets
so combining with Bloodflare is an alright idea to mitigate that, I suppose

hybrid ocean
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not just defeat boss and boom, armor upgraded

jade dock
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Ok. tentacles+ the healing spectre + mana overloader for a low damage, minus health and MASSIVE regen set?

hollow shell
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Omega Spectre sweating

jade dock
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YUP

dusty stirrup
sleek wadi
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Definitely NOT a luigi% armor slobbyjoy

ashen warren
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Personally, I want to combine all of the PHM ore armor for maximum mine.

jade dock
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Even better: give high damage? to stop being OP, give no regen(besides the set stuff), minus accessories and more damage taken

ashen warren
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Or all the woods for maximum uselessness

jade dock
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Even without the damage, it can still give those nerfs to stop being so OP

sleek wadi
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But see, then it'd combine with Spooky set which is technically a wood armor. So really you'd just be making Spooky armor but with pretty colors and a bit of extra defense Henkhenk

dusty stirrup
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I'm not sure what kind of fusions you're asking for, Punisher

ashen warren
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The uselessness of the other armors would water down the only good aspect of the Spooky set, so you get only a half a summon slot.

sleek wadi
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NICE

dusty stirrup
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Can you just fuse an armor with any other armor?

jade dock
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Maybe. to summarise: spectre healing plus tentacles minus 2 accessories plus medium damage plus no bonus healing plus low defense

dusty stirrup
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Jesus christ

ashen warren
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Summarize what

jade dock
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How about THAT for an armour set?

ashen warren
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Welp, he's beyond salvation

wooden wigeon
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so spectre, mana overloader, and a new accesory for tentacles?

jade dock
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No mana overloader i was just caught up in the moment i guess

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also LESS accessories to stop being OP

dusty stirrup
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I'm feeling like you're not taking into account the people that'll have to program whatever suggestion you're making

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When asking to be able to fuse any armor

wooden wigeon
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spectre + mana overloader sounds like it'd do most of that already

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and as for any armor fusions, that's just making dozens and dozens of crafting recipes and new items

sleek wadi
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Again, armor fusion should only happen between armors with a theme. Themes like being class exclusive, having visual similarities, maybe combining into something based off of a boss etc.

wooden wigeon
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a lot of tedium for little benefit

jade dock
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not any armour, i just want to make spectre healing somehow viable aagainst stuff like DOG

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i wanted to make it more late-game

dusty stirrup
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But like, bloodflare weps are a thing

ashen warren
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You know that healing/healsteal is nerfed anyways, ja?

jade dock
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what

dusty stirrup
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Do we really need a post-polter spectre armor?

jade dock
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Maybe not. post Ml maybe?

ashen warren
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Pre bumble

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or?

wooden wigeon
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i got a somewhat shitty idea:
make an armor set like spectre that ignores healing nerf, but also give it determination breaker effect

jade dock
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Ok so maybe not. what idea to kill next?

dusty stirrup
jade dock
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Ok be back with a new horrible stupid idea later bye

sleek wadi
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That memery about the wood armors actually gave me an idea. A post-ML summoner exclusive armor combining the Stardust, Tiki, Spooky, and wood armors to make some kind of living tree armor. The armor set bonus would give a ludicrous amount of defense and spawns a tree spirit. The spirit draws aggro away from the player when deployed and also has a swarm of birds flying around it that act like high speed ravens

wooden wigeon
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but that doesn't accurately portray how useless wood is

sleek wadi
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Also the armor would only require one type of evil wood, not both. So no evil island fuckery

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Ah but did I mention anything about minion slots? Yeah no, no minion slots on any piece of the armor Henkhenk

wooden wigeon
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oh we good then

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wait, wait, -3 minion slots slobbyjoy

hybrid ocean
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Sentient Gaia Armor™

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actually sounds good

sleek wadi
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Also the defense count would be so high it beats the melee armor of the tier it's on. For just a short moment Summoner gets to beat out melee in terms of survivability.

wooden wigeon
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actually hold up

Sentient Gaia Armor:
post ML summoner armor
what it do:
big defence. gives a few minion slots, but the set bonus consumes all your minions slots and fills them with a giant tree spirit (that takes the armors # of slots) and a bunch of birds that fill up the rest.
how do a make:
craft with stardust, tiki, spooky and all wood armors (only 1 evil wood) and luminite at ancient manipulator
why: wood armor is useless otherwise

sleek wadi
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It already has luminite the recipe due to stardust, and it should probably be a bit later in progression.

wooden wigeon
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oh you right

sleek wadi
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Perhaps place it in post-DoG. Summoner gets a decent amount of content from the event moons in vanilla so it getting even more content would also fit with how a decent amount of Summoner items are at specific locations/conditions.

wooden wigeon
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go look up general costs of armors for where you want to place it at, write up a recipe that isn't absolute cancer, and make the suggestion

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actually i don't think we should come up with the recipe 🤔 other than just the armor sets

dusty stirrup
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ok but tbh, what's the point of making it give minion slots if they're all gonna be used

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Godly Soul Artifact is an exception since it spawns minions that needs minion slots to be active

hybrid ocean
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maybe it could give you 4 slots for your minions and other 4-5 for the tree/birbs

dusty stirrup
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or like, just make the tree not use minion slots

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fixed

hybrid ocean
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me have 30 iq

radiant meadow
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if it isn't an already existent summon like shellfish or sons of yharon, then any armor bonus summons shouldn't consume slots

hybrid ocean
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what if Meld Blob dropped from the pillars once they die instead of exclusivelly Nebula Enemies?

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with the excuse of it being inside them or it being their "blood" or something like that

void kelp
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it’d help compensate for expert+ lunatic cultist no longer dropping them imo

hybrid ocean
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there

real parrot
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this is just pointless scrutiny, but the cultist not dropping meld blobs has nothing to do with him not dropping treasure bags

radiant meadow
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cultist will drop meld blobs again next patch

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that's a bug that will be fixed and isn't really good reasoning to back it up

real parrot
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it was probably a typo lmao

radiant meadow
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them mentioning that wasn't a typo
if you meant in the code, probably smugyon

void kelp
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oh!

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I’m gonna delete that then!! if it’ll be fixed next patch then I have no reason to be like “this is why” ty for telling me

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also, someone using singular they ;w; thank u

livid coral
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queen sail
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@teal ibex late but you should also point out that the birbs got progression nerfed

teal ibex
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i mean yes but i also think it should just be designed around the expense for the summon

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since it's not like you're buying the gear, you're buying the summon

queen sail
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Hm

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Alrighty

teal ibex
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that being said i think progression did influence prices so i'll include it

wooden wigeon
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armored digger talk i guess

coral halo
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if we're thinking about unique drops

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what could work for armored digger?

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instantly you think about grand scale

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so grand scale for armored digger

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in the future

bold spruce
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What about something like a Hallowed Plate?

coral halo
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yummy

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hallowed plate sounds yomme

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it could make rogue/summoner items

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both clsses with very weak representation atm

bold spruce
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Do we have a solid post-plant summoner weapon anyway?

coral halo
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nope

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not for rogue either

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i think terra rogue and terra summoner items are coming soon though pain

bold spruce
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Oh.

plush remnant
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Soon™

hybrid ocean
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now i'm curious, how would a terra summon look like

dusty stirrup
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bab plantera with a terra palette

sinful violet
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like a noodle but greener

ashen warren
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A smaller, green version of the elemental axe

plush remnant
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Why not summon 3 "True" minions, based on the world evils and the Hallow?

ashen warren
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A brain, a worm, and providence.

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wait no

dusty stirrup
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Spinach noodle

sinful violet
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:)

plush remnant
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Mini Brain that fires Creepers, a mini Eater that has Stardust Dragon AI, and a Fairy that defends you and/or heals you

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Maybe, idk

wooden wigeon
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i'd use optic staff as hallowed base, since its already a summon weapon crafted with hallowed bars

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optic staff is swarming
dank staff > eater staff is one big minion
blood clot staff > brain staff is turrets?

ashen warren
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ono pokemon

lucid marsh
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@noble turret maybe add the giant pearl?

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o yes

real parrot
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pokemon summons

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oh boy

lucid marsh
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Hey, they don’t have to be the actual Pokémon, they’re just based on some

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I think they’d be good even if they weren’t specifically Pokémon

ashen warren
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^

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Because if they were, everyone would want their pokemon in the game

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Also, good morning y'all.

lucid marsh
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The designs and attack styles are just loosely based on Pokémon. I put the inspirations in there too.

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I thought more people would like my suggestion. Any tips to improve it?

frail mantle
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it's a doc, most docs don't get that many stars because people don't bother reading them

lucid marsh
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I see. Wouldn’t be better to post a wall of text either though

frail mantle
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nah it wouldn't

lucid marsh
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Sad

frail mantle
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if you did, you'd get complains that it floods the channel

lucid marsh
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I put a lot of work into this one

real parrot
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since the actual stats and whatnot are determined by the devs, a general summary would be the best option

lucid marsh
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This is a general summary, not stats, just mechanics like attack styles and themes