I fucking hate boss rematches smh.
#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
proven tide
^
hardy wing
Well I stared at channel for 2 minutes and that’s what I got
hardy wing
see you next suggestion
proven tide
The post-Providence Bloodstone rematches make me want to fucking game end
ashen warren
If they made them more unique, maybe, but as it stands, ech
hardy wing
yes they better be more unique smh
elder sparrow
Irradiated slime god tbh
ashen warren
Holy Empowerment
Holy Empowerment is a set bonus given by the Hallowed Armor at all times, and grants the Holy Flames debuff to all of your attacks as well as granting a movement speed and flight length buff. However, upon hit, you have a chance to ignite into Holy Flames yourself, disabling the movement speed and flight.
Why: Hallowed armor as of now is subpar to other armors, being skipped in favor of modded armors, which have much more unique aspects to them in terms of set buffs, whereas Hallowed armor is unremarkable, and only provides slightly higher buffs. The holy flames as the debuff of choice is supposed to reflect the heavenly aspects of the Hallow, as well as it's relation to Providence. The 'burnout', as well as working as a valid counter to the buffs, reflects the mechanical aspect of the hallowed bars, a machine overheating from abuse.
Dis gud?
ornate pecan
Ok I have a suggestion ready to go.
Do you want me to give you a brief explanation on what it is?
ashen warren
Just post the suggestion here smh, don't bait people into the suggestion.
ornate pecan
I'll take that as "just post the damn thing"
sinful violet
No, it meant "post the damn thing in this channel" but either's fine
ornate pecan
Ok
sinful steeple
... The Leviathan is an anglerfish
ashen warren
So basically siren npc
ornate pecan
Basically
ashen warren
Solid meh/10
There isn't anything really interesting, and I don't see a need for it.
dusty stirrup
Canonically, Siren fucken dies
and her soul is taken in the pearl of enthrallement
sinful steeple
Siren is like a fish too and can't speak
dusty stirrup
or something like that
ashen warren
Fish person tho
Easier rematches would be neat I guess but that could just be fixed with a ??? summon.
sinful steeple
I mean it has some human features but probably can't talk and likely has a simple mind, only wanting to be cared about by something
dusty stirrup
You haven't read siren's new lore, I'd assume
sinful steeple
No
sinful violet
but yes, siren dies and her soul manifests in pearl
ornate pecan
Then again that is not a guarantee
dusty stirrup
But that's what happens storywise
ashen warren
Mrrp is loremaster afaik.
It's pretty certain that she ded.
dusty stirrup
Yes he is
ornate pecan
Is he on right now or do we wait
ashen warren
wait
dusty stirrup
He was right here my dude
ashen warren
sleek wadi
Damn, Siren is like everything else in lore: FUCKING DEAD
sleek wadi
Hey man, the Terrarian wasn't responsible for at least half of those deaths.
ashen warren
I mean, technically, you can't kill the DoG fully
dusty stirrup
tbf he is
ornate pecan
Something about Cataclysm's suggestion screams I'm not serious but am at the same time
dusty stirrup
@paper torrent A role for mushroom won't happen iirc
quiet abyss
@paper torrent https://gyazo.com/3e13841b9412394fec385fb0c9da01c9
dusty stirrup
o
lost agate
speaking of which i just killed 4 things without being touched consecutively 
dusty stirrup
I doubt he'd make it a thing tbh
quiet abyss
With Fab, it could be either
One time he mentioned about a new role for nohitting all bosses with new defiled in passing, and it did became a thing
lost agate
i dont think fab is such a sadist to ask people to nohit scal on shrooms
its just.... eugh
paper torrent
Levi could do it.
dusty stirrup
He only does something if he has fun doing it
quiet abyss
But ye, I also have doubts about the role actually becoming a thing
paper torrent
Yeah. But still suggesting it because god damn.
quiet abyss
Hmm, fair enough
sinful violet
siren was also turned into sashimi and eaten by permafrost: according to Mrrp, Loremaster
radiant meadow
SCal on shrooms is actually like literal dumb
also, that would mean I get the role hahaues
gusty geode
On that note, I wouldn't mind a role called something along the lines of "has nothing better to do" where they no-hit all bosses on Death Defiled Shrooms
sinful steeple
Oh okay I read the new lore but I don't understand, how would Nahlyn and others of her species speak without lungs
sleek wadi
But what if we never free Permafrost from Cryogen? Does it just get delivered to Cryogen then?
placid moth
I actually want to turn Siren into sushi after the stupidly tough fight
sinful steeple
Like do they speak through brains or something?
sinful violet
they just scream
sinful steeple
Or are they like amphibians and have lungs
ornate pecan
I feel like that would work better with Leviathan, simon
placid moth
Both.
sinful violet
i dunno it's magic, alright
ornate pecan
You also have to think about the fact that that eating Siren maybe a form of Cannibalism
sinful steeple
Siren isn't human
paper torrent
Remember kids, stay in school and don't do drugs.
sinful violet
very cool
ornate pecan
Weed
lost agate
good suggestion discussion
sinful steeple
Like assuming that Siren didn't undergo like a transformation by holding the trident their race are like magic fish people
ornate pecan
I think so
ornate pecan
Hey you can even get her as a Waifu
lost agate
seriously, remind me how this is on topic
sinful steeple
It was about a suggestion for Siren as an NPC
lost agate
well stop memeing about it
sinful steeple
K
ornate pecan
Agreed
By the way my thought process for making that was, "What can I do that works, is lore friendly, and is practical to have"
ashen warren
lore friendly
Well uh, you failed.
ornate pecan
Well then again you can already fight Siren and Leviathan as many times as you want
ashen warren
If calamity was standalone and not a mod siren would likely be a 1 time fight.
ornate pecan
Ok, this is only my second suggestion though so I'm still getting the hang of things around here
ashen warren
Wen hack n slash calamity standalone.
ornate pecan
Now that's an idea
arctic wren
marsh gust
sadly dps cap and nohit mnl still applies with shroom nohits
sinful steeple
Burden breaker makes you go supersonic you won't get hit in the first place
reef mountain
i know, but this might make it a funny niche.
reef mountain
but just imagine using this while bossing, even if you only last 20 seconds
dusty stirrup
You can't use it while bosses are alive tho?
reef mountain
the suggestion states 'make the burdon breaker usable in boss fights'
ashen warren
burdon
dusty stirrup
That makes it worse
ashen warren
real parrot
you'd despawn the boss before those effects went into play 
ashen warren
it's used to travel quickly, not to be a gimmick used in boss fights to travel in supersonic speed
dusty stirrup
You should put more effort into your suggestions
There's a reason burden breaker is disabled during boss fights
frosty kindle
besides, having the Burden Breaker useable in boss fights would most likely despawn the boss, but also allow for super easy dodging
dusty stirrup
All around a bad idea
reef mountain
i guess.
how about reducing(not removing) the negative regin effect from mana overloader? it makes sense as it was added before heal cap, but post cap it was kept at the same rate(-5/sec)
ashen warren
ashen warren
Brimmy npc
Bro you already have rose stone.
lucid marsh
Sorry for the wall of text. This is just idea I had. Yes I know we have rose stone but that’s an accessory and not the real brimmy
frosty kindle
how would brimmy fit in a house
dusty stirrup
Mostly the fact she hates humanity for a few hundred years, then she decides to join you because... reasons?
frosty kindle
we can't do a Nintendo and just downsize her like what they did to Ridley
sinful violet
because terrarian is epic anime harem protagonist
lucid marsh
...yes?
sinful violet
holy fuck
dusty stirrup
Calamity is anime confirmed
lucid marsh
Like ok it doesn’t fit the 2 sentences of lore we have. Maybe Change that just a little?
sinful violet
calanime coming 2020
dusty stirrup
No
lucid marsh
😦
dusty stirrup
It's pretty much a big part of brimmy
lucid marsh
K
sinful violet
two sentences of lore we have
dusty stirrup
Also what would be that gimmick you speak of in the sugmas?
sinful violet
>two sentences of lore we have
lucid marsh
New npc is gimmick
sinful violet
Brimmy's history is explained in both Crags and her own.
dusty stirrup
lucid marsh
Like what brimmy actually thinks
lucid marsh
Yeah my only good reason was removing/simplifying unholy cores
sinful violet
Also, she already basically becomes rose sto- nani the fuck then what was the rest of that justification
ruby cobalt
what justification
dusty stirrup
Yeah that was never a part of the reason
Plus a brimstone crag rework is on the way, those'll become more useful soon
lucid marsh
Oh it is? That changes everything
ashen warren
👀
lucid marsh
Well, guess my plan for waifu npc went out the window
ashen warren
There are no waifus here 
sinful violet
i want to commit yuyuko
dusty stirrup
real parrot
@lucid marsh strikethrough is ~~strikethrough~~ 👍
lucid marsh
I keep forgetting that
lucid marsh
K
sinful steeple
That would be kinda cool
hushed timber
it's basically a gun that shoots acorns
real parrot
post it in #suggestions-voting using the pins as a guide
i.e. make sure to include its materials, what its purpose is, why it should be added, etc.
though following a similar pattern to past suggestions is advised
hushed timber
i don't have a reason why it should be added
just thought it was a cool idea in my head
dusty stirrup
You should
real parrot
is it a magic weapon? ranged?
sinful steeple
It could be a cool super early game misc range weapon
ruby cobalt
grealm
grealm
sinful steeple
It could have piercing
hushed timber
where acorns are the ammo and you could make it with a few iron bars and wood
at first i thought high velocity acorns then i thought too OP for Pre-Hardmode
hmm now time to make a full idea of it
real parrot
the "alternative to blowpipe" idea is actually pretty good
blowpipe succs because the seeds are way too small. maybe this could be like it but with a larger projectile, no?
up to you
hushed timber
what i thought up so far
Acorn Gun: A pre-hardmode Misc. Ranged weapon that uses Acorns as Ammnition
How it's made: 1-3 Iron bars, and 20 Wood at a anvil
real parrot
make sure to include the why 👍
hushed timber
Why it should be added: Adds a good alternative to the blowpipe and is cheap and easy to obtain for newer players.
sinful steeple
Also you don't have to praise Rnjesus to get it
hushed timber
true
my original thought was kinda like the anchorfish where you find it in a chest
sinful steeple
I always get aglets and herb bags~~ not like I wanted blowpipe anyway~~
hushed timber
so how does that sound?
sinful steeple
I like it
hushed timber
a gun that shoots acorns and is easily made
The full thing i have
Acorn Gun: A pre-hardmode Misc. Ranged weapon that uses Acorns as Ammnition
How it's made: 1-3 Iron bars, and 20 Wood at a anvil
How it acts: like the blowpipe with a acorn shooting out instead of a seed
Why it should be added: Adds a good alternative to the blowpipe and is cheap and easy to obtain for newer players.
sound good?
sinful steeple
Yeah
real parrot
sounds good to me
hushed timber
and i think it fits the format too
i'm hoping the next update haha
but hey my half awake mind can come up with the dumbest things XD
real parrot
it ain't stupid if it works
hushed timber
wish i had a sprite now
have it look kinda like a candy corn rifle only with acorns
sinful steeple
👁 👁
hushed timber
?
sinful steeple
I know what to make now
hushed timber
did i give you an idea?
sinful steeple
Yeah
hushed timber
what is said idea?
hushed timber
really?
sinful steeple
Yeah
sinful steeple
Yeah I will
sinful steeple
How's this?
astral lake
Adorable
Not sure how the acorn is fitting through that barrel, but it looks nice ouo
sinful steeple
It's meant to be angled to the side a bit
astral lake
Projectile trees
ashen warren
acorn gun seems like an interesting starter for the ranger class
faint rivet
Ranger already has bows
And Minishark
sinful steeple
Also since it's meant to be like blowpipe it's better than the copper bow you start with
ashen warren
anything is better than copper shite
sinful steeple
Are you dissing the pearlwood armour? Pearlword best armour
ornate pecan
I wood be, if you got it in pre-hardmode
frail mantle
indeed
ashen warren
i hab question
why isn't there spooky wood sword hammer or bow
Spooky wood is later than all the other woods, where there are infinitly better options in terms of hammers or bows.
so is pearlwood
Pearlwood, as you'll notice, is a fluke of nature
It has pre pre hardmode stats at the beginning of hardmode
no early not pre
Early prehardmode stats
Anyways, spooky wood is summoner themed as well. Having a ranged option for summoner based stuff seems kinda pointless.
summer themed at the moment
summoner
Uh, explain?
it could be changed to have more than 1 use
making armour
Its always been summoner themed, as a counterpart to the pygmy armor.
Why would it need those options?
actually having a ranged option for a summoner might not be pointless
i combo
summoner armor
with ranged weps
unless calam
Fragmenting
Also, summoner has a nerf in later stages of the game, including when you get the spooky wood.
Besides, why not just make the spectre tools?
cuz spectre don't have a bow
wait technically has one
sharanga
from console pre 1.3
frail mantle
sharanga is pre hardmode though
frail mantle
well it is pre hardmode
ashen warren
Sharanga was removed
And there is a difference between Spectral and Spectre.
so spectre has no bow then
No, it's mage armor
ashen warren
Post Plantera has plenty of options when it comes to weapons, tzer, including the Bladedge railbow, Blossom Flux, etc.
past mesa
or you can use an actually good bow like the ballista
ashen warren
Or the cheese
past mesa
whats that
past mesa
oh yeah
past mesa
how cheaty is chi and purified jam vs eidolon wyrm
ornate pecan
Adult or Juvenile
ashen warren
it isn't cheaty considering it doesn't even work
past mesa
alright sweet
clear basin
both of the suggestions i made are fairly obvious
quick dove
having the rock be displayed would be a nice touch to calamity related builds
you have my star
quick dove
i think he wants to take off some of the noise they make while still hearing the other sounds ingame
elder mist
You can put them to a suitable level where they're not loud but you'll still hear important sound queues.
opal barn
They are still louder than most of the things in the game tbh
clear basin
i want to be able to still hear things like yharons roar
elder mist
I can hear providence's and ML's lasers just fine even with them not being obnoxiously loud though.
clear basin
the sound is just so loud i can barely hear the music
elder mist
Music is different, now.
clear basin
i just think it could be a little quieter
ashen warren
"seemingly"
It is a joke reward.
It's literally a pun.
clear basin
ok and
tulip parcel
tough lion
Maybe it is Xeroc’s pet rock?
worthy fiber
It's a rock
quiet abyss
ashen warren
Place rock for an overall rocky asthetic
rich inlet
Rock is happy today
ornate pecan
I'm stoned
novel pebble
Rock
tender obsidian
The Xerock
ornate pecan
Let me listen to Rock n roll
ashen warren
Reposting bc it got ignored.
Holy Empowerment
Holy Empowerment is a set bonus given by the Hallowed Armor at all times, and grants the Holy Flames debuff to all of your attacks as well as granting a movement speed and flight length buff. However, upon hit, you have a chance to ignite into Holy Flames yourself, disabling the movement speed and flight.
Why: Hallowed armor as of now is subpar to other armors, being skipped in favor of modded armors, which have much more unique aspects to them in terms of set buffs, whereas Hallowed armor is unremarkable, and only provides slightly higher buffs. The holy flames as the debuff of choice is supposed to reflect the heavenly aspects of the Hallow, as well as it's relation to Providence. The 'burnout', as well as working as a valid counter to the buffs, reflects the mechanical aspect of the hallowed bars, a machine overheating from abuse.
hushed timber
@sinful steeple the sprite you made is perfect
cold terrace
I can't tell what im looking at
ashen warren
^
frail mantle
i enjoy a hallowed armor buff
tired haven
personally
That's not how you do suggestions
frail mantle
Cosmic Guardian was renamed because "Devourer of Thots" was too memey afaik
ruby cobalt
thot detected
tired haven
Pretty much
ashen warren
@spare nimbus
distant gyro
what is that suggestion though
I thought we are over with memes already
smh my head
hearty yew
@clear basin @elder mist @opal barn
I can definitely make Onyx Chain Blaster and Onyxia less loud. However, you must realize that vanilla's Vortex Beater is exactly as loud
I can either make it so the use sound volume is quieter, or change it to a less obnoxious sound than the pump shotgun sound (why does nobody use the tactical shotgun sound?)
or, someone can give me a better sound to use and I can include it
radiant meadow
there's a lot of weapons that are pretty noisy tbf 
like meowthrower and face melter
clear basin
@hearty yew I know but the thing is its a low firerate gun so its not as obnoxious
and vanilla doesn't have absolute bangers
and moon lord just seems really loud for some reason compared to providence
clear basin
no i mean music
hearty yew
Oh lol
hearty yew
Which was supposed to be an accelerating auto shotgun
Then they nerfed it and just made it a bland machine gun that's inaccurate
AND THEY STILL NERFED ITS DAMAGE
it's so fucking bad lol
tired haven
Face Melter sound apparently just bugs out due to insane fire rate
clear basin
it does
it sounds ridiculous but i love it
its just the axe sound but played really fast
tired haven
Yep
clear basin
thats why its a good meme
it kinda sucks that the pack is seemingly outclassed when you get it
tired haven
It was nerfed twice from what I heard
clear basin
the pack?
ruby cobalt
Every suggestion that starts with "We need" goes to the garbage bin btw
The Pack is Destiny's Gjallarhorn
ruby cobalt
sad times
clear basin
and its on the wiki
ashen warren
hey can we have a gun that's overpowered as fuck and melts all bosses
why? why not
slender wagon
more like, download alchnpc and use last tantrum
clear basin
more like just dont play the video game
ruby cobalt
playing the game is overrated anyways
elder yew
More like download cheat sheet, hit godmode button, grab terminus, and waste the next 40 or so hours of your life beating boss rush with a copper shortsword
And then get instagibbed by DoG
slender wagon
clear basin
get jibed
tender obsidian
Oofed
teal ibex
i keep finding my way into the suggestions channel uh oh
elder yew
Welcome to hell
clear basin
^
ashen warren
man there's alot of vague suggestions lately 
ashen warren
idk what vage means
lost agate
Make your suggestion have more than 4 words perhaps
ashen warren
ok but a soda gun shoots diferent types of soda witch do different things.
ashen warren
caus it wood be cooler than the sun
lost agate
Well thats fucking dumb
ashen warren
bi
oh hey that was his first message in this server
can we take it as a meme suggestion
cyan lagoon
@sharp garnet vanilla items aren't getting the rogue treatment unless specified otherwise
ashen warren
Why is the soda gun still there.
ruby cobalt
it exists
frail mantle
it's not really bad enough to be removed
ruby cobalt
it's pretty bad
frail mantle
i mean, at least it's not "re-add lorde" level of bad
ruby cobalt
fair
ashen warren
At the same time, no reasoning or even a slight idea on how it is supposed to work.
faint needle
Tbh a soda gun could be the only thing that would make water/water bottles useful besides potions
civic rampart
But water bottles are a early healing source that nobody even uses
faint needle
Exactly
civic rampart
But how can you expect a 4 word suggestion to get in? There's nothing about how it works, when you get it, why should it be in the mod
worthy raptor
that was tried already, soulchunk
3 AI's that were not made to be fought at the same time was a massive clusterfuck, even with attempts to rebalance it in a way that may work
agile cloud
Its a good idea though
civic rampart
With storm weaver and signus it's just hell, one requires flying up and down, the other staying on the ground
worthy raptor
trust me, we tested it, we tested it with them having less attacks, we tested it with them spawning one at a time but they overlap after a couple seconds, etc etc
quick dove
signu's projectile storm and aggro
worthy raptor
every single time it was GOING to result in damage you couldn't avoid, especially if you were unlucky
it's not a fair challenge
quick dove
storm weaver's lightning and worm body
and dark energies just cant be dodged all at one time
civic rampart
Undodgable dark energies owo
grand badger
Into the garbage can with that idea then
quick dove
whats with the soda gun suggestion
frail mantle
guy's first message in this server
delicate raft
How is that a Mini Astrum Aureus? 
frail mantle
placid girder
has anyone said non consumable calamitas summoning item in the past 5 mins
frail mantle
i don't think so
placid girder
aight
delicate raft
quick dove
frail mantle
i was unable to make it look decent if it was any smaller
at least it's smaller than the actual Astrum Aureus
dusty stirrup
That would be incredibly awkward to use
quick dove
would be cool if most of the summons were already non consumable
pbg's spawn is boring to get and just ends up being annoying if you die to her and need to get obsidian blah blaehrhg again
same applies to calamitas, die once, cant buy from wizard, have to go on yet another boring farm
dusty stirrup
sad !
lost agate
too bad
quick dove
placid girder
Yeah maybe for all mech alts too
tender obsidian
Bruhhhh
I like sea prisms breaking to almost everything
Makes them easy to grab without accidentally destroying the whole terrain and draining everything through a hellavator
Ok that was an exaggeration
radiant meadow
@cyan horizon I assume you want the drunk princess to sell that, but you'll need to elaborate on what you think it should do
cyan horizon
ok
radiant meadow
as well as explain that it's supposed to be a drunk princess alcohol (if that's what it is)
radiant meadow
actually, he has a point
wings (except MOAB because yes) don't protect you from fall dmg when on mounts
lucid marsh
Oh wait they don’t?
radiant meadow
horseshoe does
minor marlin
unless the mount itself gives fall immunity
lucid marsh
Wtf???
minor marlin
but yeh
radiant meadow
but like it might get a ☑ anyways
wooden wigeon
sounds like put horseshoe on angel treads
minor marlin
happened to me plenty o times when playing w/ slime mount nd aerospec wings
novel vine
ooh mb had no clue
should i leave it up for a bump or just let it be the one post with the green check
sinful steeple
Don't mounts ignore horseshoe?
wooden wigeon
mounts use horseshoe
sinful steeple
Oh
real parrot
mounts do not use horseshoe
sinful steeple
Thought so
Like some mounts are immune to fall damage and some just can't fall
But the ones that aren't seem to ignore all fall damage reducers
shadow creek
I have this suggestion
It's like an upgrade to the Voltaic Climax, but I'm not sure it would work out for the mod
wooden wigeon
slime mount doesn't damage me with MOAB, does MOAB do fall damage differently than horseshoe?
radiant meadow
I don't think so
novel vine
the mounts don't ignore horseshoe though. i tested it literally just now. nothing on and fall to hell with slime mount, die. wear horseshoe and fall to hell with slime mount, no damage.
real parrot
may just be a thing with horseshoe
though i do know for a fact that just wearing wings will still make you take fall damage when riding a mount
novel vine
oui
real parrot
aerialite armour also seems to negate this. interesting
wooden wigeon
any thoughts on my rogue accessory suggestion?
novel vine
I like the thought of making an emblem upgrade for it, but it's odd how rogue becomes singled out as the "extreme no hit challenge" with that plan.
strong yew
Adult EW has no unique drops aside from guaranteed drops and increased amt. of materials btw
radiant meadow
adult eidolon wyrm is not meant to have unique drops
dusty stirrup
imo Demonshade should stay as is spritewise, it's not a SCal armor specifically
lost agate
Yeh
It will be post yharim someday
And someday it will be post xeroc
So its not a scal armor
hushed timber
i have a idea
a ectoplasm varient of the daybreak and Solar eruption
haven't really thought about it much
hushed timber
well like i said didn't think much about it
or it could be used to upgrade it
i don't entirely know atm
ashen warren
Suggestions should be for well thought out ideas smh.
hushed timber
well i'll explain more when i thought more on it
tired haven
Phantoplasm spear at least then idk
lost agate
You do know
rich inlet
that’s kinda funny for me for some reason
frosty kindle
the pins explains it all
lost agate
Yeah
frosty kindle
im not a dev so i dont really know
not like any non-devs should know tbh
tired haven
What should change?
rich inlet
There should probably be a reason why this suggestion didn’t pass sent to us who sent the suggestions, but I guess that takes too much time
ashen warren
There's a pin in #suggestions-voting
Mrrp made it because of people wanting to know what happens to suggestion.
rich inlet
I said exactly what the pin said wo looking at it wtf
dusty stirrup
Well uh first off, that sprite has a shitload of mixels
Also it has a weird angle
most likely due to the mixels
hushed timber
mixels?
ashen warren
Terraria has 2x2 sprites, when you have 1x1 pixels alongside 2x2 it looks like shit.
tired haven
if we go on complaint spree, just taking recolored vanilla sprite is about worst idea
but then again, p sure this was a concept art and nothing else
hushed timber
it was a concept art
and i mainly was doing it cause i thought it was fun and nice looking
i also changed up the Flying Dragon sprite too
ashen warren
How 'bout. You read the calamity art server pins so you can actually sprite well.
Link is in #info.
Recolors are massively frowned upon fyi.
hushed timber
i'm not really worried about spriting well atm i'm just doing it for fun
hushed timber
well i apreciate the Feedback but i gtg
lucid marsh
Hey how about making the eye drop 1-3 luminite ore?
ashen warren
The eye?
lucid marsh
The true demon eye
ashen warren
True Eye of Cthulhu.
sinful steeple
He's talking about the true demon eye I made
But I don't intend it to drop anything I just intend it to be a pain
dusty stirrup
Yikes
ashen warren
An enemy whose sole purpose is to be annoying is something I loathe about thorium.
Specifically mudmen.
sinful steeple
I don't like mean it to be annoying like dropping a useless item or something I made it to be a threat to post ML players at night
dusty stirrup
Make it actually interesting then tbh
sinful steeple
Well I thought that it appearing in groups would make it more unique than a demon eye that shoots lasers
dusty stirrup
Well the enemy itself feels pretty uninspired to me (basically just a mini version of True EoC), also I don't know how one would pull off a swarm with that kind of enemy AI (not sure how to make something spawn in swarm in the first place without fucking shit up)
sinful steeple
Well how I thought they would behave is that they spawn some clones of themself when they are spawned, except the clones can't create clones
dusty stirrup
That sounds a bit problem causing
ashen warren
Bumblebirb trash enemy 
elder kestrel
Making new game modes is really difficult
teal ibex
omg a me teleporter
proven tide
kek
This sounds simultaneously awesome and boring, with bits and pieces of impossible layered in
Both my star and my exclamation on this
elder kestrel
It also detracts from calamity and feels really detached
Like it doesn't actually have anything to do with the mod, just kinda there
No actual place/point for it
sinful violet
aHVEFUYuewyifggfera
elder kestrel
Dev items are for devs only lol
lofty blade
lmfao dev item to himself
jade dock
- its not for lore, just fun
proven tide
can I take this
jade dock
- its ment to be like you explore in the start of the game
proven tide
please
proven tide
tell that to SCal's dialogue
elder kestrel
When would tou unlock it?
jade dock
tou?
sinful violet
No, lore definitely matters, it's that this doesn't fit in lore at all.
elder kestrel
It just doesn't fit in the mod itself
Nah mrrp I'm saying that lore aside, it still doesn't fit
proven tide
A dedicated item is only for developers, significant figures, Patreon donators, and god-level over-dedicated players
jade dock
OK. then have it like a secondary terminus (being post ml) and, instead of a normal cave
change the blocks to make it have a certain theme
proven tide
also, uhhhh, I can actually see a way to fit that into lore, but shhsm
elder kestrel
Still feels very detached
Where would it be in the map?
How would it be implemented?
Plus, coding it would be very hard and probably near impossible
jade dock
- It wouldnt be in the map, it would drop as a boss to tp you somewhere 2. You could make a couple worlds and, when you find a suitable cave, change the blocks their to suit the theme, and change whats in the chests/ add new ones. then, when a player uses the item, you can tp on top of the suitble cave
sorry, as a boss drop
elder kestrel
How would it be out of the map?
elder kestrel
As far as I know, that's impossible
real parrot
bad suggestion imo
it would be too difficult to code (pretty much requiring the creation of an entirely new game mode unlike terraria)
plus it's just way too complex. it'd be better off as a separate mod (if that could even be possible)
sinful violet
Well, dradon's done some stuff outside of map
jade dock
make it towards the end, as an impossible to enter area
sinful violet
But it's still really simple and awful to work with
elder kestrel
Fair
elder kestrel
Alright
delicate vector
The closest thing I could think about for a coherent mini-game would be dodging bullet hells to entertain some higher being that would give out rewards based on the time survived
But it still feels out of place
jade dock
ok
real parrot
you could do bullet hells just by fighting scal
jade dock
How about creating a SCAL - like arena in which mobs spawn and you have to survive for a certain amount of time. at the end, a mini boss/ mob horde comes (either one). bigger than scal though
scal arena
real parrot
that's literally just an event
delicate vector
^
real parrot
fab hates coding events so any suggestion like that is going to get shot down fast
real parrot
@dusky urchin draedon and yharim are already planned to be bosses/superbosses.
dusky urchin
yeet
real parrot
they've been planned for several months though the devs won't say much about it
frail mantle
they're gonna be normal bosses
dusky urchin
wrong
mighty skiff
what lmfao
dusky urchin
bruv
mighty skiff
fab's literally said they aren't superbosses
dusky urchin
they're the most powerful figures in calamity tho
mighty skiff
no they aren't
frail mantle
SCal will be degraded to a normal boss, and then Goozma and Xeroc will be superbosses
mighty skiff
yharim would get super bodied by either goozma or xeroc
frail mantle
either way, Yharim and Draedon will be normal bosses
dusky urchin
oof
faint rivet
DoG grind ain't that bad
Especially considering most classes can either make a post-DoG tier wep that completely deletes him, or at least get some relatively major upgrades in terms of accessories after unlocking the Draedon's forge
grand badger
thats the point. he gets way too easy after you have the cosmilite weapons, so you're left with doing almost nothing for 2 minutes. Same thing with moon lord, it's just pointlessly time consuming
faint rivet
Right, Sentinels that barely survive for a minute total and P1 that dies after the first adrenaline
What happened to Terraria being a farming sim
ashen warren
luiafk and fargo skips ml waiting phase
faint rivet
QoL rebranded skips the entire farming phase for ML
civic rampart
@waxen pike the feral bite debuff doesn't last long enough for the entire battle, moreover calamity changes summon mechanics that the summon dmg keeps updating according to the player's stats/dmg boosts
sinful steeple
Chests are pain to make also Heavenfallen stardisk
ashen warren
@jolly orbit Rogue has a chest.
jolly orbit
it does?
ashen warren
Yes, astral chest.
The item is heavenfallen stardisk.
strong notch
Devs wtf why did you replace the Devourer of Thots to Cosmic Guardian
#makecalamtrygreatagain
frail mantle
because Devourer of Thots was too memey
quiet abyss
The calamity mod is heading towards a more serious side.
Meme-ish names are slowly being renamed to less meme-ish names
Besides, cosmic guardians fit way better
frail mantle
^
although i do think renaming them "devourer of fools" would fit into a similar theme as the old one while being less memey
radiant meadow
@ashen warren dungeon guardian is not really meant to have actual functional items
radiant meadow
and even so, you would need to elaborate on what you want
ashen warren
a Armor that has good defence and will drop from the gradian.
frail mantle
why do you want this armor in the game?
distant gyro
follow the ol' suggestion format
ashen warren
because it would give a better reason to fight the guardian
distant gyro
the guardian isn't meant to be fought anyways
radiant meadow
there shouldn't be reason to fight dungeon guardian
frail mantle
^
quiet abyss
^
radiant meadow
especially since the enemy got buffed 
distant gyro
unless you're playing Alchemist or whatever
quick dove
if theres any drop he should give it should be cosmetic that doesnt really affect anything ingame
guardian isnt even meant to be fought
frail mantle
exactly
ashen warren
maybe it could be a vanity?
frail mantle
also, it drops the Bone Key, which is a pet
ashen warren
ik
radiant meadow
and like I said, the fight itself is much more unreasonable since iirc, Calamity makes the guardian faster and shoot skulls or something
frail mantle
i still don't really understand why you want this in the game, other than "give the enemy you're not supposed to fight that already has a drop a new drop"
distant gyro
Guardian has like 99.99% DR on top of the defense iirc
frail mantle
^
radiant meadow
@waxen pike the immunity to feral bite doesn't largely matter since the dmg boost will go away when the debuff runs out, and as it stands, summoner already hits high amounts of dmg that late in the game
tired haven
Technically, it is still a debuff because halved regen and random debuffs matter far more than +20% dmg
ashen warren
"But muh min-maxing"
elder mist
Wtf 20%? Better than like 90% of accs in terraria 
opal barn
Yeah, until you get confused randomly
ashen warren
You just get confusion and die like 50% of the time.
Or cursed right when you RoD, I've actually had that happen.
elder kestrel
@leaden swift how would that work though?
what do you mean by "different worlds"
different biomes?
leaden swift
@elder kestrel its said clearly different worlds
elder kestrel
then how would that even work
leaden swift
a teleporter pad
elder kestrel
that's not what I meant
leaden swift
it creates a new world
elder kestrel
is that.. even possible??
leaden swift
if you have seen the function of nightmare crystal from the necro mod
elder kestrel
no
leaden swift
its basically creating a new world that cannot be generated from menu
elder kestrel
sounds like a lot of effort for something pointless, honestly
ashen warren
that would also be buggy
leaden swift
"pointless"
elder kestrel
yea, pointless
just make a new world from the menu
and like starry said, there would most likely be a whole lot of bugs
elder kestrel
which is...?
leaden swift
my god why do you have to be so specific
lost agate
Aka make your entire worldgen from scratch
Also chill
But it would be awfully complex to code for semingly no reason whatsoever
ashen warren
worldgen is fucky so no
leaden swift
world gen right now is stuffing the world with many structures and biomes
until theres no space left
ashen warren
we dont need a "dimension" that prolly be the next mechworm
elder kestrel
It would most likely take hundreds, if not thousands, of very complex code that fab might not be able to pull off
lost agate
Yeah
leaden swift
"like the nightmare crystal from necro modpack"
lost agate
And he would rather shot himself than try something so complex because yes
elder kestrel
I mean, I see what you mean by stuffing everything together, but it's not that big of an issue
leaden swift
nightmare crystal basically creates a new world that cannot be generated from menu
lost agate
Nightmare crystal was a bug and a half dude
ashen warren
sometimes it commited cloud save
lost agate
And it wasnt even changes to worldgen
Just a color filter
And even then it was the most buggiest thing
leaden swift
it would be a big accomplishment if it was made
lost agate
Nah
ashen warren
nope
elder kestrel
It would be a waste of time honestly
leaden swift
its 2019
teal ibex
even if so, you have to recognize the scope of a project like that
lost agate
And its also march
teal ibex
every ounce of effort that goes into that would be taken away from something else
lost agate
So what?
teal ibex
so if it did come to fruition, youd basically hault every other suggestion and planned feature for weeks
lost agate
Months*
teal ibex
which ultimately would do more harm than good, even if it would be an achievement
scope is a super important part of game design, and if you set it too high youre asking to fail
which should really be mentioned somewhere in pins if it isnt lol
lost agate
🤷
leaden swift
terraria is gonna decay anyways
lost agate
So what?
teal ibex
yo guy you dont need to diss the game if your suggestion doesnt go through lol
lost agate
^
leaden swift
no thats not what i meant
frail mantle
it's not gonna decay for quite a while
teal ibex
then uhhhh, what did you mean?
leaden swift
getting the wrong idea jumping into conclusions already?
frail mantle
i mean, Minecraft is basically just as popular, and it's been popular for ten years
lost agate
Also, the fact we are debunking your suggestion doesnt mean we are atacking you
teal ibex
the general context of saying a game is decaying is a bad thing
lost agate
Chill jesus
teal ibex
so yes, i interpreted the diction you used as negative
i am now giving you the option to correct it
such is discussion, please respect those who have differing opinions instead of using the strawman fallacy
lost agate
Exactly
leaden swift
i respect some opinions
lost agate
If you cant take criticism then there is something wrong
leaden swift
why the hell do you think im mad th
teal ibex
thats cool, i respect some too, your idea is cool but generally inattainable
frail mantle
you seem sorta angry
teal ibex
you come off as mad when you call me out for jumping to conclusions over a miswording, duder
lost agate
Yeah, im gonna ask you to chill
leaden swift
if this was a real life talk it will be very calm
lost agate
?
elder kestrel
this has nothing to do with the current convo
frail mantle
maybe, but by the way you're talking now you seem like you're angry
lost agate
But yeah, we should drop this convo already
frail mantle
^
either way, your suggestion seems like something that would be hard to code, pretty laggy and doesn't really seem like something that would fit with Calamity's theme imo
leaden swift
well it might be nice to expand the exploration and discovery
frail mantle
maybe, but as you stated, the Necro Mod already does something like this, and Calamity doesn't tend to copy what other mods to
Calamity tends to try and do things that other mods don't really do
lost agate
(necro mod is an old af mod that is dead i think btw)
leaden swift
it is dead
i understand the point since the world right now are people judging off originality and simple concepts that are overrated
ashen warren
quiet abyss
Shucks, be calm my man
ashen warren
"Its easy to say it in words"
quiet abyss
Nah, it only looks like that on paper.
When you start to really dive into how dimensions work, it's going to start getting really complex.
elder kestrel
Even as concept, it's relatively tough
leaden swift
structure, biome gen, the skyboxes
quiet abyss
Alternate dimensions in Terraria world, as cool as the idea sounds, will require immense amount of codeworks and rewriting the vanilla codes.
The immense workload is already very demanding as it is, but combined with having to overwrite vanilla codes (which are not exactly the best), and it will, in practice, take atleast many months of dedication.
And that kind of dedication will cause us to have to pretty much halt every plans we have for calamity mod as a whole, which is going to do us far more harm than good.
While calamity is a mod that's aimed to do some things that no other mods have done before, trying to implement and make the alternate dimensions idea would take far too long and the mod would only suffer from it.
Now, don't get me wrong, I can see where you're coming from with your suggestion and I do also like the idea of making alternate dimensions, but until someone has found a way to implement them without needing far too many code works (which I highly doubt), the concept is naught but a far away dream.
lost agate
Also, other mods do this already
As said, necro mod, also, enigma
Enigma is just kind of a filter but whatever
leaden swift
meh enigma just adds a color to the screen
necro mod is outdated rn
while waiting for someone to find a way lets watch subaru suffering in season 2
quiet abyss
Now then, I'd like to ask that we all just leave this topic alone, and move on.
This conversation about this topic has been going for far too long, and I feel that we all are currently going in circles right now.
If there's anyone else wanting to talk about this topic, I'd like to ask that you move to either DMs or #general-talk channel.
That'll be all, thank you.
agile cloud
If you want alternate dimensions, wait for draedons mod
Also should suggesting boss nerfs without a decent reason for it be disallowed?
a non decent reason being: this is unfair or this does too much damage
quiet abyss
Perhaps, but considering that these suggestions tend to get shot down by the active people in here quite quickly and then have stars taken away from them + the suggestions deleted after anyways, it might not be needed.
agile cloud
maybe
quiet abyss
...Although, thinking about it more, I do see your point.
fast helm
Well, seeing Astral-Infected planets sounds like a neat mechanic
fast helm
It adds to gameplay AND goes along with the lore
vestal elbow
sounds like a job for invisible dye mod
woven elm
ashen warren
Yes
gaunt karma
I think the firestorm cannon could use a buff, since aquashard shotgun is a thing. It's harder to get because of the flaregun, and its not even that good.
hollow shell
@summer egret 
summer egret
What
hollow shell
That sounds like a joke to me
hollow shell
Also
@cyan horizon How so, come up with an idea or two about what can be changed about her to make her more useful
(also her name is Rare Sand Elemental now, from Rare Elemental in a Bottle)
summer egret
Shitty weapon + big boss = hard
real parrot
it's a pointless role
tbh
sure you can beat the boss using memery but that's all it is: memery
cyan horizon
and a waste of time
real parrot
bad suggestion
hollow shell
@summer egret Remove the first half of that suggestion
real parrot
waifu bottles were a meme name
ruby cobalt
@opal barn you'll like this one
cyan horizon
did you copy my idea, what the hell
opal barn
who
cyan horizon
Radio
summer egret
I'm gonna beat scal with broken copper shortsword
opal barn
oh nice, a meme
hollow shell
Also Areus, she used to summon tornadoes but it was changed to the healing orbs
opal barn
oh is that a double meme?
elder sparrow
Ban
real parrot
@summer egret calamity is becoming a more serious mod
that's why the memey stuff is being taken out
no need to put it back in
hollow shell
Same with Devourer of Thots being changed to Cosmic Guardian
(instead of "Devourer of Fools", RIP)
summer egret
Well, someone has to make a patch for calamity with the meme names back in it as an option
opal barn
Apoth
summer egret
Or a gui option, cause its funny.
elder sparrow
Wait people actually use feral bite for buffs
hollow shell
Yeah just download Apotheosis & Friends if you want Calamity memes, lmao
summer egret
Ye
real parrot
yes it was funny
but i'll say it again for good measure, calamity is becoming a more serious mod
cyan horizon
calamity doesn't need memes, I already get enough at school and in other discords
summer egret
gonna donate 100$ so i cant be banned
real parrot
you can still be banned after that
hollow shell
That won't work, and Fab has said so
opal barn
Stop memeing and get out
hollow shell
Also yeah you're already warned, don't get muted buddy
dusty stirrup
Yikes
cyan horizon
no bribery
summer egret
I have good suggestions sometimes dont @ me
opal barn
Will you leave or do you want a mute
real parrot
sometimes
dusty stirrup
How about you only make good suggestions
ruby cobalt
ah, yes, the rune of kys was a good suggestion
elder sparrow
Bruh
ruby cobalt
radiant meadow
yes
cyan horizon
Did my braincells die?
radiant meadow
most likely, yes
sturdy dock
love that galactic javelin suggestion termi 
@leaden swift hope this is alright to say since the previous conversation had to end, but i do really want to add that the portal/dimension idea you had is something devs have spoke about quite a few times before
has been an overall unlikely with devs, for reasons already said and the fact that we aren't completely sure what we'd do with it
for what you mentioned about stuffing the world with biomes, we're trying to avoid that feeling. we recommend playing on larger worlds but we have kept others in mind overall. feel free to suggest changes you feel would cut back on that
radiant meadow
quick dove
does anyone even manage to get rare sand elemental's healing orbs during a boss fightt
radiant meadow
tbh, no
quick dove
i dont see any good use to it currently
you get 15 hp if you go flying to some small orb in the middle of air making you mega vulnerable to whatever enemy is coming at you
that, at the point you get it is prob gonna do 100 dmg or more
sleek wadi
Also the orbs are effected by the lifesteal cooldown, meaning even if you do catch it it might not do anything 
quick dove
maybe change it so its orbs are homing but heal a bit less
rustic ember
Genius
cold terrace
What if devourer of thots was renamed to devourer of thoughts
hollow shell
@digital shuttle Probably not gonna happen considering Boss Rush
already has you fighting buffed versions of past bosses
digital shuttle
well this would be adding more "content" to the mod in terms of trying to get even more powerful gear from even more powerful bosses to eventually have a powerful enough setup to actually kill the final boss.
digital shuttle
this "final boss" would be a god who is far more powerful than anything you fight currently which is why you get thrown into this time loop to try and get more powerful gear in order to ultimately kill this god
lofty blade
so... Xeroc?
hollow shell
@pale bluff I assume it'd be crafted using those three you mentioned?
pale bluff
yes
hollow shell
Only those three?
Because if so it's obtainable right after Suspicious Tentacle from Moon Lord
You could add Ruinous Souls to the recipe for the Post-Polter Abyss exploration
lofty blade
I have a feeling it should be crafted with a ruinous soul, that way you have a new light pet to explore the 4th layer of abyss
goddamnit sniped
dusty stirrup
harhar
hollow shell
Eh it's fine
pale bluff
for it being THE Endgame Light Pet, 10 would be enough
I mainly got the idea of there being like, a single Light Pet added in Calamity and that there should be one more that's endgame
lucid marsh
I’d make the light pet work out of water but better in water, so that the baby siren effect is kept but doesn’t limit the other 2 ingredients
pale bluff
It will tho, that's why I only said the Effect of the Baby Moonlord Eye than the effects of all of them
proven tide
scaling
scaling vanilla weapons
scaling every single vanilla weapon with calamity
dusty stirrup
fossil torrent
Think they meant balance and not scale, but still
They try their best to make the game balanced, a lot of vanilla weapons are already buffed a lot in calamity while some (like daedalus stormbow) are nerfed
For example the Phoenix Blaster deals more damage and has auto-fire in calamity
dusty stirrup
shotbows 
fervent zealot
less damage, not more
fossil torrent
right
fossil torrent
With ”scale” do you mean ”get more and more powerful when you kill bosses” or just ”are buffed”
dusty plover
Buffed
fossil torrent
and refer to ^
dusty plover
just buff all vanilla weapons
fossil torrent
Promise there’s reasons that’s not done already
dusty plover
Do you know any reasons?
fossil torrent
They already wanted to buff vanilla weapons but just chose to buff a few, i don’t think they want to just straight up ”buff all the weapons”
fossil torrent
And also most weapons are balanced and viable already, they don’t buff or nerf weapons just for the sake of doing it
hollow shell
We already do that, Sero.
fossil torrent
As i said many vanilla weapons are also nerfed, for example daedalus stormbow
hollow shell
"scaling" I don't think is the right word, because that comes with the implication that their stats change throughout game progression
fossil torrent
There is already a balance.
hollow shell
See that page for details.
dusty stirrup
I already posted that page rover
radiant meadow
night's edge is already autoswing
dusty stirrup
I removed the embed so prolly why you didn't notice it
sinful violet
large mind