DR is capped because it's superbly strong
#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
reef mountain
no, it's also good for projectile swords like biome blade
or true caustic edge
or terratomere
ashen warren
It doesn't increase projectile RoF significantly
reef mountain
it does, a lot.
ashen warren
"Improvements to the weapon's melee speed increase the velocity of the projectile." terra blade
reef mountain
it's especially good on overkill damage builds where' 10% more damage' just increases total base damage by 7-8% due to the increase being based on the initial stats rather than the buffed one.
ashen warren
Melee Speed got capped back to 30% for weapons that were too overpowered and basically let you facetank bosses, or completely obliterate them in a matter of seconds. You're saying you want something to break that cap? No, the melee cap did not crush the good builds melee has, and it definitely won't. The cap is there for the reason stated above.
reef mountain
it still makes some weapons pretty darn bad, since it affects the non-true melee swords as well.
also the freedom of builds should be allowed
ashen warren
It is allowed though?
reef mountain
non it's non currently due to these caps(e.g hallowed armor is completely useless due to these caps)
opal barn
Hallowed armor was always bad though 
ashen warren
Hallowed Armor is bad because it's gay, other armors outclass it.
reef mountain
no, it used to be good for speed builds.
ruby cobalt
It never was good.
reef mountain
proper, non-broken speed builds.
frail mantle
Hallowed armor is, in my opinion, bad because not even all of the vanilla classes can use it, and the classes that can use it have far better options
reef mountain
melee hallowed armor, that's what i'm talking about.
ashen warren
Only the swing, not the projectiles
reef mountain
interesting... it seem to do a lot on the dps side for me...(sequence)
reef mountain
interesting...
what about the one projectile per swing weapons like biome blade?
nvm, i should try this myself.
can't be lazy.
ashen warren
Biome blade 100 dps on both, note that I have 0 proficiency and no armor or buffs of any kind
reef mountain
so the biome blade doen't shoot once per swing?? i always remembered that it did.
ashen warren
It shoots in sync with swing, same with every other weapon
However I'm pretty sure that there are 0 weapons that create a projectile by the action of swinging
In the manner you describe anyway
reef mountain
in sync with swing... doesn't that mean more swings=more shoots?
ashen warren
With no speed adjustments every swing corresponds perfectly with a projectile "in sync"
reef mountain
that makes sense.
ashen warren
With speed adjustments the sound of swinging and the sound of firing a projectile go out of sync
the terra blade at least shoots a projectile every swing
When not autofiring at least
reef mountain
huh.
ashen warren
Its slower when autofiring
reef mountain
apparently speed does nothing on projectile swords.
ashen warren
It affects autoswinging the terra blade only because of the speed cap on firing the projectile
Click too fast and it becomes every second swing
reef mountain
what about projectiles that are dependant on position, of the weapon, like mushroom spear?
ruby cobalt
I'd like to remind you this is no longer about the suggestion itself, so yeah, move out.
reef mountain
ok
ashen warren
Yer, but I've proven their reasoning wrong anyhow
reef mountain
so, i've reworked the idea(removed attack speed but buffed the other attributes), what do you think?
proven tide
How about instead of retroactively changing the idea, you post it here for review first as is recommended?
worthy fiber
please
reef mountain
ok.
hybrid ocean
how about a Summoner weapon that suppons a small robot/mech that you can upgrade using up summon slots? that's the main idea, how do you think it should be obtained?
i'm thinking Astral
or maybe mech boss themed
worthy fiber
Would be pretty cool
delicate vector
There was one for skeleteon prime somewhere in the suggestions
delicate vector
Like you use a slot for every hand and one for the head
ashen warren
Any more just adds more hands 
delicate vector
Draedon's plaything is the name
ashen warren
Really hope that it gets implemented as one of Draedon's drops
dense girder
Emerald Strike - HM Magic Weapon -- Toxic Crystals - Post-PBG Magic Weapon
"Deflect this!"
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Emerald Strike - An upgrade to the Crystal Storm. Rapidly fires emeralds in small bursts that inflict Cursed Flames and Dryad's Bane. Created at a Bookcase using a Crystal Storm, Emeralds, Living Shards
Toxic Crystals - An upgrade to the Emerald Strike. Fires a dozen emeralds a second, each of which inflict Plague, Cursed Flames and Dryad's Bane. Created at a Bookcase using an Emerald Strike, Plague Cell Canisters, Beetle Juice
= There's already an upgrade to the Crystal Storm, but a different weapon chain for it with different debuffs being inflicted would add to the arsenal that mages can use, not to mention that the current Crystal Storm weapon chain has a long gap between its final two weapons (post-Cryogen > post-DoG).
Thots and eye deers?
vestal elbow
just install use time editor or omniswing lmao
ashen warren
I mean just stand at the top and hold the kill boss button
dense girder
when will you people learn
that just because one mod has something
that doesn't mean another can't have it, because some people, don't like playing with a fuckton of mods that could cause errors
ashen warren
W h e n w i l l y o u l e a r n
ashen warren
When crystal storm has two tiers of progression already
While I enjoy jojokes. It irks me that there's so many in ur suggestions reee
agile cloud
That suggestion takes up all of discord for me
Also @atomic bolt Chill with the suggestions
ruby cobalt
This is why you put shit into a doc.
atomic bolt
Whoops.
agile cloud
That would be a good pin
Like, messages over 30 lines should go into a doc
Thats, not a google doc
This is a google doc, and one of my old suggestions
hollow shell
Thats not a google doc, Ultra
agile cloud
There ya go
hollow shell
nope
fossil torrent
@atomic bolt You should say some small basic stuff outside the document like the name and so
hollow shell
Needs to be a Sharable Link
fossil torrent
Oh and yeah it's not a sharable link
atomic bolt
So I'm supposed to like share it?
hollow shell
Yeah, if you click Share theres a button to get a Sharable Link
which will let anyone view your doc
Otherwise it's private to only you
Yes.
Last but not least
add a summary of the suggestion to the message with the link
atomic bolt
How to do?
Sorry for looking like a newbie anyway.
atomic bolt
Like directly editing the discord message I just sent?
frail mantle
yes
hollow shell
(thats not editing but close enough)
atomic bolt
Welp I need to be more active i suppose
hollow shell
Heh
hybrid ocean
what if lunar towers death messages had an actual effect, for example, "Your mind goes numb..." would give confused debuff and the brain suckler effect for 2-3 seconds.
"You feel overwhelmed with pain" would damage and slow you for the same amount of time.
agile cloud
pillars dont need to be more annoying
hybrid ocean
well, yeah you right
it should be made not-annoying
let's say, it won't damage you for 400 hp
but it should be a small effect so the death messages aren't meaningless
hybrid ocean
it would only happen the first time you fight them, and it is to give those death messages a meaning as they don't actually do anything
"you feel overwhelmed with pain"
nothing happens
frail mantle
or perhaps rather whenever a pillar goes down the first time you do the Celestial Events, a picture of the Moon Lord flashes once over your screen, getting more opaque the more pillars you've taken down
hybrid ocean
that's a nice effect
dense girder
by that logic, monday
we should add a voice clip of fabsol screaming and transcend virtual reality and make the player actually shiver when you break shadow orbs
hybrid ocean
lmao
dense girder
and don't get me wrong
i'm perfectly fine with that
and it would be cool to have voice effects for in-game text messages
ruby cobalt
+140db scream
dense girder
except dialogue. eugh. edgy and gross.
but it'd be a fuckbuckdickduck to make and implement them all
and it'd be like the lowest of all priorities
ruby cobalt
It's actually less about the implementation.
hybrid ocean
imagine getting people to do voice effects
ruby cobalt
Even if it's going to be a giant clusterfuck (lol not really)
Nah, not even that.
It dies at mod's size.
dense girder
i would gladly scream into my mic for fab
hybrid ocean
who wouldn't
vestal elbow
coils place ropes more quickly
gotta go fast
alpine copper
The npc gun upgrades actually sound like good ideas
While there are plenty of guns to choose at the tier you can obtain the upgrades, a consistency to go along with the speed blaster would be a good thing to have
dense girder
The Bird Box - Post-ML Magic Weapon
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❔ = A magic weapon. On use, creates several birds at the cursor that home in on enemies and explode, dealing large damage and inflicting random debuffs for random periods of time. Rarely produces a Bumblebirb that inflicts Abyssal Flames.
🛠 = Created at an Ancient Manipulator using a Bird, a Blue Jay, a Cardinal, Meld Blobs, Galactica Singularities
= It'd be fun to have a magic weapon based around birds, which currently have little to no use.
thoughts?
hybrid ocean
neat name
neat idea
what if there was a low chance for a bumblebirb to spawn instead?
dense girder
That is a terrible weapon to use then
"yeah i'm gonna fight providence with this -- oh fuck now i'm fighting providence and bumblebirb"
frail mantle
i think they mean like creating a bumblebirb projectile that attacks enemies
round walrus
Cupid
cobalt lotus
astrum deus worm staff 
dense girder
yes ace
worldly jay
Well, I remade my Frigid cart design, how does it look now?
dense girder
Wheels are much better, still a little bit of noise on the main body but I like it a lot more
Also try to export these without the white background if possible since it makes it harder to see anything in the actual sprite
worldly jay
And how do I do that with Paint program?🤔
dense girder
Are... are you making these in paint?
worldly jay
yes, why not
dense girder
lost agate
They look actually good even if in paint
dense girder
Your skills are good but
Use this
Paint is a pretty bad program to do pixel art in
It works but just not well
Piskel has way better tools for spriting, and it's easy for beginners
dense girder
You can also export them as pngs
worldly jay
ok wait for me
dense girder
Which is what you should do since we'd have to individually download the piskels
worldly jay
dense girder
Hell yeah that's it
worldly jay
yes, i got it! thanks for the help
Also, I have a well detailed boss I made about a month ago. I only named it Boss 1, but I think it could fit well into the terra elemental theme.
dense girder
Boss suggestions aren't allowed but holy fuck that looks amazing
It could be a miniboss
hallow brook
neat
dense girder
It looks a lot like the Earth Elemental, could be related
worldly jay
One thing is for sure: I really like drawing with anything I can, that can be a sketchbook or sprites like this.
worldly jay
I think I post my newer sprite tomorrow, because I think it's still needs some work.
frail mantle
you should check with the art server to improve it
worldly jay
thanks for the tip
reef mountain
a rework of the caps.
with this rework, anything past a hard cap will be turned into another stat(for example, melee speed into melee crit chance), and anything past a soft cap will have a large portion of it turning into another stat(for example, 2/3 of dr into defense).
the caps are well-intended, but can be limiting at times, this allows more freedom of builds such as bloody worm scarf+frigid bulwak.
dense girder
do caps really need a rework?
reef mountain
reasoning posted.
dense girder
ehhh idk i'm conflicted on this idea
if i were you i'd wait for some others to discuss this properly first
reef mountain
k.
hollow shell
Interesting idea, sure
Turning excess DR into defense sounds somewhat reasonable
That is
very minor, Odd
placid girder
is there any way to show the life steal cooldown as a debuff
dense girder
I've been using it in-game to farm for the Blood Moon and I literally cannot play with the sound anymore it's so painful
hollow shell
... probably, Chiko
It might be a bit difficult but not impossible
dense girder
I'll change it to apply to any swords that do this for some dumb reason
is that better?
hollow shell
Yeah sure that's fine
How many others do that besides Enchanted?
I think Starfury..?
radiant meadow
ice blade might do it
dense girder
I just can't remember which ones
radiant meadow
maybe beam sword?
hollow shell
There ya go
placid girder
thanks
dense girder
Blood Orbs can be purchased from the Dryad for 1 gold 50 silver. This would make it easier to get them when RNG says "No Blood Moons for you!" whilst still not being a cakewalk to get.
hollow shell
Naaahhh
placid girder
cant you just use the blood moon summon
reef mountain
that's a bit too easy.
hollow shell
Yeah you can get a reliable Blood Moon summon in Hardmode
placid girder
also farming for gold is easy as shit
dense girder
hardmode
placid girder
just beat on crabulon or something
dense girder
1 gold 50 silver, then
placid girder
still doesnt change much imo
reef mountain
more reasonable
hollow shell
Just make potions the normal way
dense girder
or at the very least their drop rate should be boosted because jesus they're a 10% drop chance and you need 10 for one potion
the only way to boost that drop rate is with bloodflare armor
hollow shell
Balanced for Zerg 
reef mountain
i hate farming blood moons, but that's a bit rediculous.
reef mountain
maybe make the wizard sell the summoning item for blood moons for 50 gold?
hollow shell
Maybe...
dense girder
Loot Potion
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❔ = On use, increases the drop chance of any and all items by 3%. If they are at 100% already, they are not affected.
🛠 = Created at an Alchemy Table using a Spelunker Potion, Purified Gel, Stardust, Gold Dust, 50 Gold Coins
= Defiled Rune boosts items below 5% drop rates to 5%, but an item that makes anything above that slightly easier to get would also be useful for farming.
fossil torrent
oddi
oddi
why are you shitting out 50 quadrillion suggestions per day
like you're forcing yourself to make as many suggestions as you can
dense girder
because I do shit, and I think "how could this be better", and I see if other people like it
I don't do it for the sake of forcing my shit into the mod
I do it for the sake of trying to make the mod better, okay
I try to farm Blood Orbs, doesn't work, I try to brainstorm ways to make them more readily accessible
fossil torrent
Don't got a problem with it, i'm just asking
dense girder
then I realise I could make a potion that helps farming not only blood orbs, but also literally anything
I know but I just want to clear it up for not just you but literally anybody reading
dense girder
thank you 👌 😃
hollow shell
weird thanks but ok
scarlet crypt
Im not on this discord much but I do a lot of calamity playthroughs
hollow shell
Loot Potion may be impossible or incredibly difficult to program
dense girder
really?
i mean, if DR increases the drop chance of below 5% to 5%, how hard could it be to up everything by 3%?
it'd be the same as "below 98% = add 3%"
hollow shell
Drop chances are fractions
It generates a random number and checks if it's 1 out of _ numbers.
scarlet crypt
I've loved pretty much every update for this mod except one. I know I'm in the minority here but the old legendary weapon design was one of the main reasons I grew to love this mod. Rare weapons that follow you throughout the game were incredibly fun
hollow shell
Defiled Rune's drop chance modifications are all manual
They were indeed quite fun
But people
liked them too much
to the point that they just didnt use any other weapons
scarlet crypt
I see
I might put one more suggestion in the suggestion chat, if its possible and it gets upvotes, I think it could be a nice change
dense girder
I'm waiting for the day that somebody will suggest some unfathomable abomination of a weapon that combines all legendary weapons into one grotesque mess
hollow shell
Not only is that never going to happen but I feel disgusted that you would even propose that 
dense girder
untold gulch
if that day happens to be i would kill myself on the same day
dense girder
despite the glamour attached to being legendary
they're still weapons
they can't be the top of their game for a long time
there's so much else in the mod to use and choose from
scarlet crypt
its sad because every reason to nerf them is valid and I totally understand and yes I did use them more than the others
small talon
maybe it can be like that the time that the legendary dropped from a random mob if it were to be switched back it can only upgrade so many times (ex. only upgrades for 3 boss kills)
small talon
so it would be as powerful as it as at the moment you got it but upgrades only so often
so you dony continually use it
scarlet crypt
thats a good compromise but yeah I think it would be a programming nightmare
dense girder
How's this: An item that you can upgrade each time you fight an eye boss
scarlet crypt
just put it in suggestions just in case it was possible/people wanted it or whatever
dense girder
EoC > Twins > Calamitas
Each of them would drop an item to upgrade this specific weapon and it would become vastly better each time
novel pebble
I see
radiant meadow
Is that another legendary scaling suggestion? 
dense girder
legendary scaling?
bitter topaz
scarlet crypt
The scaling with boss progression
It’s funny because in my current playthrough I’m still using almost nothing but legendaries
dense girder
REDACTED
eek it's not done!!!! D:
Glass Marble - EoC Drop
A weapon that shoots a small, narrow beam of light. Inflicts a new debuff, Cataracts, which makes enemies move slower and may occasionally confuse them.
A guaranteed drop from the Eye of Cthulhu.
Spherinder - Glass Marble Upgrade
A weapon that shoots a slightly larger beam of light. Inflicts Cataracts and Frostburn, with a guaranteed chance to confuse enemies.
Created at a Mythril Anvil using Glass Marble, Souls of Sight, Hallowed Bars
Spherical Ascension - Spherinder Upgrade
A weapon that shoots a large beam of light, same in size to the Last Prism but much weaker. Inflicts Cataracts, Brimstone Flames and Confusion on hit.
Created at a Mythril Anvil using Spherinder, Chaotic Bars, Ashes of Calamity, Blighted Lenses, Black Lenses, Lenses
Purity - Spherical Ascension Upgrade
The final upgrade of the Glass Marble lineup. A weapon that shoots out many beams of light going outwards from the player which rotate slowly, inflicting Abyssal Flames, Vulnerability Hex and Confusion on enemies.
Created at Draedon's Forge using Spherical Ascension, Calamitous Essence, Yharon Soul Fragments, Nightmare Fuel, Endothermic Energy, Effulgent Feathers, Cosmilite Bars
There we go 
scarlet crypt
Woah I like this
dense girder
I'll be completely real
scarlet crypt
Put it in suggestions 😃
dense girder
Writing this suggestion? I love it so much
I might but I want a special someone's thoughts first
cough @hollow shell sorry but this is a big'un, i really want your help on this
hollow shell
What
scarlet crypt
Lol
dense girder
If you have a spare line, make it look go-- yeah i'll remove them lol
Anything I could improve on it?
dusty stirrup
I feel like the Spherical ascension would come too soon
dense girder
This is one of my rare "omgilovethisiloveitsomuch" suggestions
too soon?
ah yeah
I could eliminate the Spherinder
hollow shell
Could add Chaotic Bars to the recipe
dense girder
Or that
hollow shell
for Ascension
scarlet crypt
That would make sense
hollow shell
But Golem is :D
dusty stirrup
mhm
dense girder
I am very happy with this suggestion
HOWEVER
I've posted enough today, and I don't want to bury the poor souls in there
I'll post it tomorrow
hollow shell
Sounds good.
untold gulch
niiice
i like this suggestion a lot
scarlet crypt
Ooooh maybe a worm version
dense girder
also more people are active on the weekend so I could get more stars due to more activity
statistics fuck YEAAAHHHH
A worm version would be too much
that'd be like 8 weapons in the lineup
scarlet crypt
Eater of worlds
Destroyer
Eidolon worm
Devourer of Gods
hollow shell
Don't forget the
all the other ones
dense girder
a-- i-- oh that's... actually pretty
hollow shell
Desert Scourge, Perforators, Aquatic Scourge, Astrum Deus, Storm Weaver...
dense girder
If meme suggestions were allowed
I would make one that could be upgraded from every single worm-type enemy in the game
dense girder
I think I'll try making some sprites for these weapons first
I will fail, and give up, but it's worth a shot
hollow shell
White circles that increase in size
dense girder
Perfection
cold terrace
sepulcher mechworm 
dense girder
Stop! You've violated the law!
proven tide
Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence!
ancient atlas
Your stolen goods have been forfeited.
ashen warren
Wulfrum slimes are robots iirc, that's why no gel
dense girder
If you want a slime to be a robot
- How do you make a slime a robot
- It should still drop gel because it's a slime and it makes the slime hit noise
And changing the hit noise for Wulfrum Slimes to not be the default slime hit noise is a cheap trick
ashen warren
- Nanomachines, son.
- By that logic all zombies should drop gel
dense girder
Tbh the Wulfrums, if they're robots, should have a more metallic hitsound
but that's a different issue
If it's a nanomachine slime, then make it drop Nanomachines
er nanites
spiral olive
nanites in pmh lol
there's so many slimes around idk why gel is so much of an issue tbh
dense girder
it's not an issue of gel amounts
it's an issue of being a slime and not dropping gel
that's the point of it being a slime at all
if it doesn't drop gel make it a different mob
slimes are made of gel
wrrrrryyyyy
ashen warren
Why are you so tilted over a slime?
dense girder
It makes me irrationally angry, it contradicts fundamental logic of Terraria
ashen warren
Well, that's your problem I guess.
dense girder
No it's the mod's problem if it defies common sense
spiral olive
it's 1 slime
dense girder
Well it's not a bug fix and having more gel wouldn't hurt while fixing a small problem
Ergo, suggestion
ashen warren
Do you complain about the mere existence of the platypus to god or something? It also defies most logic.
dense girder
The platypus is a good boy and he can be what he wants don't you call him illogical
ashen warren
You're just being difficult it seems.
dense girder
Man, it's a suggestion to make a slime drop more gel
It's an earlygame slime too, making it drop gel wouldn't hurt because players would benefit from it early on
Where's the problem here
ashen warren
- You're being angry over a pathetically, stupidly, small issue.
- It's a robot.
dense girder
I give up
summer egret
Wulfrum shards are also worth more than slime early early game
dense girder
I'm too emotionally angry over these fuckin sprites to keep a cool mind so I'll concede and say whatever now
sleek wigeon
Well one reason for it to be a slime is AI
doesnt make much sense for anything other than a slime to use the hopping ai
dense girder
But I will say that my point stands: having gel early on can't harm, can it? Is it such a catastrophe for a slime to drop gel?
sleek wigeon
Yes
dense girder
A robot can still drop slime. If it's a nanomachined slime, it's still a slime at the end.
sleek wigeon
See it mess up my slime x player fanfic
spiral olive
summer egret
The wolfrum is metal
dense girder
o-oh, ijones
summer egret
HEY
dense girder
I'm terribly sorry 
summer egret
MAYBE ITS LIKE THAT LIQUID METAL TERMINATOR
THATS NOT TOO FAR FETCHED CONSIDERING WE HAVE A GIANT FUCKING EYEBALL
dense girder
ah yes, transparent metal
that makes squelchy sounds when it is hit
also calm down sheesh
summer egret
I mean why the fuck not though
dense girder
It's fantasy, yes
But that doesn't mean you can throw fuckin consistency or logic out the window
sleek wigeon
we dont have liquid metal elswhere in the universe so it doesnt make sense for it to not only exist
but be EXCEPTIONALLY low tier
summer egret
Drink mercury.
sleek wigeon
NoU
fresh harbor
Lava, Dungeon and King Slime itself also don't drop gel tho
dense girder
I made a suggestion for the latter to drop slime
Lava slime, if it dropped slime, would instantly destroy gel since... lava
But dungeon slime wtf this is unreasonable
I'm gonna suggest that at a later date
dense girder
@proven tide ?
eager palm
:)
dense girder
Am the confusion
proven tide
ashen warren
10/10 would cheat in after getting steampunker so I don't need burden breaker 
dense girder
Holy shit I never realised what the Burden Breaker does until I wiki'd it just now
It looks amazingly useful How have I never made this before
ashen warren
It's the only way I can actually finish calamity, along with wireless+teleporters.
Since you refight bosses so often and a lot are biome-exclusive
blissful heart
Cant the burden breaker kill you?
dense girder
no
ashen warren
Determination Breaker more like
hollow shell
One problem with Obelisk
It's obtainable earlier than Astral Arcanum and it's more useful
... arguably
ashen warren
And also obtainable in normal
hollow shell
Indeed, AA is Revengeance
dense girder
Making it post-AA would be... if I'm frank, pretty pointless by that point
Post-Void is already so late game that you don't need to explore that much
AA already covers dungeon, underworld, random areas and something else I forgot, so you can use obelisks for something else in Rev and obelisks for those areas in normal
hollow shell
Maybe
you can only have 1 Obelisk in the world at a time?
dense girder
I'm gonna be frank and say that's kinda useless
If you're in normal, right? And you need to travel between several locations frequently for some reason
Having just one is pretty dumb
And even in Revengeance, if you have multiple locations not covered by the AA, it takes a while to get to them
hollow shell
Ech
dense girder
For once, I have bested the king of suggestions
dense girder
r/TwoHealthBars
hollow shell
Teleporters are still a thing and so is Grand Design
dense girder
The problem with that
is that wire is expensive
Very fucking expensive for cross-world travel
west prairie
Just zerg, drown in cash
hollow shell
I think this ultimate convenience of teleporting anywhere you want for little cost should be saved for Astral Arcanum, Revengeance
ashen warren
Wire clutters the world is my issue, money don't matter in calamity.
hollow shell
Having something arguably better in Normal, earlier, is odd
dense girder
It isn't even there in Normal is the point
hollow shell
Exactly
ashen warren
Fast travel is saved for the point where it has 0 point
dense girder
It acts as a substitute for people who play normal (#WeStandWithYou) and as a convenience for those hard-to-reach spots for people who don't
west prairie
If you play normal you have enough convenience
ashen warren
^
west prairie
Bosses practically let you kill them
ashen warren
Tbh this should be mode-exclusive.
dense girder
(Keeping in mind it's 50 gold for 1000 wire, and about 6000 wire from dungeon to jungle, that's 3 plat for the whole world, not to mention the time that it takes to build it all and the wire clutter)
(Not to mention there are more places people might want teleporters to e.g. underworld)
west prairie
Zerg
dense girder
It's still harder because in Normal money rates are nerfed
ashen warren
3 plat = arma king slime a bit.
Or yes, zerg.
west prairie
Yes it’s harder but still relatively trivial
dense girder
curse keeps dying ffs
ashen warren
Perhaps obelisks could take 10% of the money on you and in piggy bank/safe
dense girder
How about they cost some gold
Not 10% of the money on you, since
if you have a lot of money, you're pretty much done for with a lot of it
and if you don't, it's free essentially
ashen warren
some gold
Free*
dense girder
I'd say it uses a set fee of 15 gold per
west prairie
Again, gold is trivial so it’s still just a more versatile astral arcanum
dense girder
You say this like you can get 40 platinum in 5 minutes just by breathing
but it takes a lot of farming to get that much
ashen warren
Oh yea, eater of worlds gives 15 gold on demonite alone
west prairie
^
ashen warren
Aight
ashen warren
It would work if it changed arcanum's "thing"
Arcanum now just adds stars to everything
And was expert or rev exclusive.
Death exclusive
die
west prairie
If it was compatible with the arcanum in the sense that having it equipped let you teleport to those spots...
ashen warren
It's still really lategame
Technically sentinels are post-polter so the only biome exclusive boss is yharon
Auric ore spawns everywhere
And that's about all you need to explore
"A nice touch would be cool to change make an easy chest sprite with wings."
huh?
Aren't huge chests buggy af?
dense girder
r/IHadAStroke
ashen warren
Is an extended chest even possible?
The extended inventory mod deletes your items frequently
rapid pivot
Magic Storage exists.
rapid pivot
But, practically speaking, it has a similar effect.
ashen warren
Calamity. Is. Not. A. Standalone. Game.
It's a mod.
Mods are about having a modular experience, this isn't highlander.
Besides, that would be stealing.
rapid pivot
Oh, no, I wasn't suggesting it be added to calamity.
I was just saying, if that's what he's after..
ashen warren
tbh i want what i said pinned, just without the last line.
radiant meadow
but should it?
ashen warren
Yes
ashen warren
Tru, I could make it clearer.
I was sorta joking however.
ashen warren
Format ech.
It's just one block of text
I think we've got some older enemy submissions from that art competition.
uneven spoke
time to sprite this when phup stops strangling me
spiral olive
jace finish the patron weapons
radiant meadow
Nin, stop trying to distract the spriters
spiral olive
ashen warren
I wonder if there'll be a whole new tier of calamity just to fit the patreon items.
radiant meadow
I think patron items all have a custom rarity
ashen warren
Blood orange or whatever
ashen warren
It was never banned 
dense girder
KIM if that didn't have a photo, nin
it'd be seen as a boring block of text and disregarded by some
ashen warren
Because it is just a block of text.
spiral olive
i mean, it gets the job done
dense girder
but it's unfair
radiant meadow
Blame Nin for making his contest entry also a suggestion 
dense girder
gave me a heart attack for a second
spiral olive
yes, the few hours i took designing and drawing it is completely unfair
dense girder
fucking christ
radiant meadow
close enough
ashen warren
Heirm
dense girder
It's unfair on people here who don't have the skills or time to invest in making art or sprites for their suggestions
I'm not saying I don't appreciate the work you put in
fuck it is a good drawing dude
but people who can't sprite/art are always at a disadvantage in this channel
this is more of a generic rant than an argument with you i'm sorry
radiant meadow
There's a contest at hand tbf
spiral olive
it's fine i know what you meant
radiant meadow
also, when will I muster strength to try to draw some creature that's brown?
dense girder
it's also a good suggestion 👌 turtles are underrated
future advice though, just have the art of the turtle, no text
because if you change something, well...
reef mountain
unrestricted mode.
tooltip: 'for people who find overpoweredness fun.'
an 'easier' mode that can't be used if deathmode or iron heart is on.
can only be used once revengence moon lord was defeated.
removes all caps.
why? i've once asked, in this discord, why we shouldn't be overpowered in calamity.
the best answer to that question was:'so that people don't have to manually nerf themselves to enjoy bosses'
but i know that some enjoy being overpowered.
reef mountain
k, also, thanks a lot!(i was actually expecting a bunch of harsh comments)
dense girder
that was a harsh comment jk
I like the idea of going absolutely apeshit on bosses once in a while
you added one capital 
ok justd
delete it, and i'll format it for you
because you're just devouring lines in the channel rn
Unrestricted Mode - Tooltip: 'For people who find overpoweredness fun.'
An 'easier' mode that can't be used if Death or Iron Heart is on. Can only be used once Revengeance ML has been defeated. Removes all caps.
I've once asked, in this discord, why we shouldn't be overpowered in calamity. The best answer to that question was. "So that people don't have to manually nerf themselves to enjoy bosses", but I know that some enjoy being overpowered.
gaunt karma
the latest suggestion is great, really well made etc but
god damn i would hate to fight a tortoise mini boss if it had tortoise AI
that would be hell on earth
reef mountain
don't ask why, but i can't copy and paste bold text, so please, do me a favor and post that in suggestions.
dense girder
wrong paste
reef mountain
thanks a lot!
dense girder
yee
spiral olive
tbh super strict formatting doesn't really matter as long as all the components are there but that's just me
dense girder
formatting makes a suggestion look good. people like shapes more than blocks. also makes it easier to sift through select chunks of info.
having emotes is about as close as one can get to having a sprite/art tbh
spiral olive
i don't really need the fancyness or emotes as long as i can read what the suggestion says and i like it
but ig it does make it look somewhat better
ashen warren
That unrestricted mode suggestion could also have a different name, Normal Mode.
If normal mode had zero caps and whatnot that'd be great, I actually don't know why the DR cap and certain others aren't only expert and up.
reef mountain
it could be fun trying to dodge rev doggo's 1200 damage head while using absurdly powerful true melee gear to clob him, or rev slime god, which is nothing like normal slime god.
also this isn't a change that tries to make the game a breeze, you'd still have to figure the correct build out and dodge, just not as much.
ashen warren
art carries
ashen warren
🐢
ashen warren
You don't seem to
dense girder
I don't use it unless I'm being very serious in chat or on the fly
ashen warren
ashen warren
what's A capitalisation
hard crescent
cheers @dense girder
sleek wigeon
`flails make
0 sense
for rogue
flavor wise, mechanic wise, anything wise
flails entire schtick is that they are big heavy and clunky
thats like the opposite of a rogue
lost agate
Not because rogue needs weapons you should add whatever that crosses your mind
also imagine posting this when next update literally adds rogue stuff
sleek wigeon
also rogue isnt throwing
so using the definition of "throwing" yoyos, makes even less sense
sleek wigeon
rogue is rogue, throwing is consumable ranged lite weapons
Not exactly sure what rogue's thing is but im sure we'll find out soon
ashen warren
"Rogue has more potential than throwing either way, stealth mechanics that don't slow the player down, more unique weapons, melee-like weapons (instead of just vomiting projectiles like ranged), etc."
- Flaming ball of gas-butt
lost agate
Lol
sleek wigeon
a class based around speed, stealth and burst damage
presumably
and precision prolly
ashen warren
Less damage boosting and more crit chance/crit damage stuff maybe?
sleek wigeon
maybe no crit cap for rogue
ashen warren
Thought the cap was removed?
ashen warren
101 - Removed damage and critical strike chance caps. But...there is a twist. - Done
Twist was full re-balance
And lucky is only 2% crit et cetera
sleek wigeon
right right, its all coming back to me
pliant bone
inb4 due to the that suggestion, Melee gets severely nerfed more as some yoyos and flails proved to be useful for Melee users.
There is no Vanilla weapon being converted to Rogue.
All Vanilla throwing are untouched and were not converted.
Only some armors were buffed to support Rogue since they were useless in the first place.
There is an incoming Rogue expansion update which is literally next update and in a few weeks and their aim for Rogue is for it to be a separate thing rather than a Throwing class clone.
ashen warren
Is Rogue gonna have like daggers that deal massive damage or what?
Stealth I heard
or some other mechanic
civic rampart
cough thorium shade dagger
ashen warren
@silent parrot I think secondary stats like knockback and velocity are better portrayed with text than icons. Icons can be difficult to understand sometimes.
dense girder
Remember when we had the whole discussion about using emojis in suggestions
And it was said that those were too confusing
Well...
silent parrot
animated icons
dense girder
could I get some opinions on these beta designs for my earlier suggestion
Glass Marble - EoC Drop - Magic Weapon
A weapon that shoots a small, narrow beam of light that pierces 2 times. Inflicts a new debuff, Cataracts, which makes enemies move slightly slower and may occasionally confuse them.
A guaranteed drop from the Eye of Cthulhu.
Spherinder - Glass Marble Upgrade - Magic Weapon
A weapon that shoots a slightly larger beam of light that pierces 4 times. Inflicts Cataracts and Frostburn, with a guaranteed chance to confuse enemies.
Created at a Mythril Anvil using Glass Marble, Souls of Sight, Hallowed Bars
Spherical Ascension - Spherinder Upgrade - Magic Weapon
A weapon that shoots a large beam of light, same in size to the Last Prism but much weaker, that pierces infinitely. Inflicts Cataracts, Brimstone Flames and Confusion on hit.
Created at a Mythril Anvil using Spherinder, Chaotic Bars, Ashes of Calamity, Blighted Lenses, Black Lenses, Lenses
Purity - Spherical Ascension Upgrade - Magic Weapon
The final upgrade of the Glass Marble lineup. A weapon that shoots out many beams of light going outwards from the player which rotate quickly, inflicting Nightwither, Vulnerability Hex, On Fire!, Ichor, Holy Flames and Confusion on enemies, which pierce infinitely. The downside is its great mana consumption rate.
Created at Draedon's Forge using Spherical Ascension, Calamitous Essence, Yharon Soul Fragments, Nightmare Fuel, Endothermic Energy, Effulgent Feathers, Cosmilite Bars
for reference, the actual suggestion
ashen warren
Why does a rainbow sphere inflict abyssal flames?
Why not nightwither or something?
ashen warren
Look at the beam sword upgrade
dense girder
ohh
solstice claymore yee
there I shat out a few more debuffs
how is it now
one debuff to every color on the sphere
probably couldn't be programmed like that but
ashen warren
Do note that infinite pierce weapons are quite strong.
dense girder
OH fuck
ashen warren
Especially since most of them are timed well for certain worm bosses
dense girder
I forgot to mention: they're all magic and Purity in particular eats up mana
ashen warren
I already thought they were magic
dense girder
The latter part is relevant
Purity has a very high mana consumption rate to counterbalance its power
I don't want to give stats but I'd say 200-300 mana per second
quick dove
i like that
ashen warren
Well they'd all use lots of mana, look at last prism.
ashen warren
So it'd last for about half a second
dense girder
If you don't use mana flower at this stage that's your problem as a mage
Again 200-300 is only a guess I could put it at like 150-250
I need to go in-game and do some quick calculations, be right back
dense girder
aside from the Purity, is there anything I could work on?
GMarble through SAscension all good?
ashen warren
The first one makes evil bosses way easier.
All of them except for hive are multi-segment
ashen warren
Doesn't matter for the last 2
ashen warren
it's post scal
ashen warren
No multi-part bosses that I can think of, would be weak compared to other mage weapons with a limit.
You could count TEoC in the ML fight but swarmer exists.
dense girder
There we go
ashen warren
Is purity disco ball or a cone?
dense girder
cone?
It's not meant to be a disco ball if that's what you mean, it's meant to be a rainbow marble
but I see where you'd get that
worldly jay
Well, here is my newest sprite I made.
quick dove
what is that
worldly jay
a robot with freaking rocket launchers
rustic ember
Ok but why
worldly jay
I... well it's not that good, is it?
cyan lagoon
bashing sprites is not people's job here
and if it does get in the mod, Mountainy, it will likely be touched up and polished to fit with the current quality
worldly jay
you are right
agile cloud
I see one problem with that @silent parrot #help-advice-read-pins would probbably be flooded with questions like: what does this mean? or what stat is this
worldly jay
I don't have any idea for a sprite.
dense girder
@worldly jay For pixel art advice, use #pixel-art in the Art Server.
And for this sprite in particular... you really do need a lot of help.
dense girder
Oh god oh fuck
I hope this works out
and i'll be the first to say it: gay marble
dense girder
just so that other people don't cash in on the joke first
novel pebble
lol gay marble
elder kestrel
dense girder
thank you alphi ily2
runic mesa
nice job dusky, i really like the new suggestion
dense girder
thank you! 😄
worldly jay
I don't know if it fits the theme well, but I tried.
dense girder
theme of what?
worldly jay
astral meteor
dense girder
ok mountainy let me explain some stuff to you
first of all, with all pixel art, you should be using the art server
you only post sprites with completed suggestions, critique on the sprites there, critique on the suggestions here
second, there are specific palettes for everything in calamity
if you go into the art server, go to #pixel-art and check the pins, there's a megapalette with every boss and enemy and biome's palettes
ashen warren
really? They have specific palletes?
ashen warren
That’s awesome!
dense girder
better than making your own, agreed
worldly jay
ok
ashen warren
I do pixelart myself, and palletes are hella useful. Now that you mention it, I might make some art or boss ideas of my own.
dense girder
wack
ruby cobalt
Because half the time it ends up being unpolished garbage that doesn't fit anywhere, and the other half is astrageldon lorde.
quick dove
uh cupid about your suggestion
why not make glass marble give the temporal sadness debuff
ashen warren
makes sense
quick dove
yes
ashen warren
bosses are pretty big, so i feel it
dense girder
cataracts is movement speed only and confusion
quick dove
but i mean, its dropped by an eye, so i guess crying would make senese
dense girder
that's why you have... the teardrop... cleaver...
dense girder
serious bruh moment
sinful violet
smh i thought you said any art and pictures were "unfair"
sinful violet
odditer the hippocrate i see
dense girder
i'm still extraordinarily pissed at how badly my spriting attempts for it failed though
like, look at this bullshit for the spherinder
sinful violet
i mean, it's a glass ball
sinful violet
just copy someone elses, change it- oh nani the fuck
that ain't a glass ball i see
dense girder
it's a 4d object
you ever just sprite an object in another fucking dimension for one of your first sprites?
ashen warren
merbels
dusty stirrup
I just realised, why's there a Killer Queen background for these marble images
dense girder
finally someone noticed
i needed a background and i thought of that diamond pattern you see in some jojo promo art, simple and works well
couldn't find it though. used KQ instead. looks good.
quick dove
kira yoshikage's stand from jojo part 4
dusty stirrup
You got the name and family name reversed my dude
Anyway, that marble weapon line looks cool
sinful violet
Japanese and english ways of putting the family and given names are different smh
quick dove
torn creek
It's sad that the Seraph tracers feel like a downgrade from Xeroc wings and angel treads
Should they be buffed?
radiant meadow
no
it's a tradeoff
seraph tracers compresses accs at the cost of less flight time
and you get slightly faster running
similar story with drew's wings and celestial tracers
torn creek
What should I have as accessories right after moon lord? I've only killed him once, so I'd need to rebattre him. Ik just not sure which accessories to use
alpine garnet
faster running + no accessory slot for boots
not rly #suggestions-discussion territory imo
torn creek
now that I think of it, this can be moved to the help channel
cyan lagoon
not a whole lot of these make a good amount of sense, odditer
Why would Providence drop grassy fossilized flora?
Brimmy I can sort of get
dense girder
why does defeating providence make grassy fossilized flora spawn? 🤔
all those ores are unlocked once you defeat the bosses -- why not have them drop some of it? not a lot but enough to make a few bars
well, exception is charred but it fits due to brim, as you said
cyan lagoon
Astrum Aureus as well, though it should be locked behind another gate in progression since Astrum Deus is the one that enables astral ore anyway
cyan lagoon
regardless its a good amount of qol
but I'm not sure whatsoever giving bosses the drops to generated ore is that much of a good idea
since the exploration part of terraria's gameplay is pretty much thrown out the window after Plantera
again, brimmy is an exception since you can find the stuff in her domain
dense girder
you have a fair point, i'll give you that
i'll oof the suggestion because exploration is a fun part of terraria
might as well preserve what's left
sinful violet
Just because a boss unlocks an ore doesn’t mean it’s directly related.
Not entirely relevant to the current convo, but mainly talking about provi
cyan lagoon
same can go with plantera
cyan lagoon
despite it being planty it's more technological (there should be something describing that though because its confusing)
dense girder
sinful violet
I dunno why provi unlocks uelibloom or what it is, but cryo for sure ain’t directly related to daedalus bars.
dense girder
plantera's... not really technological
sinful violet
Reaver is
dense girder
she's a plant
sinful violet
Reaver’s theme is tech plant, for some fucking reason
dense girder
reaver shark?
sinful violet
Always bothered me
dense girder
wait what
sinful violet
No the gear
dense girder
oh
perennial ore itself has to do with plants and not technology though
the armor can be technological but the ore itself is another form of chlorophyte
sinful violet
No, the ore is mainly listed as tech plant due to it’s old draedon connection.
Anyhow, it works for a few bosses, but not all. That was my point.
Also, ravager would basically lose a lot of it’s purpose afterwards.
And then later on, the bosses dropping the ore would just be messy if you’re farming something else.
It’s a nice renewable source, but the inconsistencies would be ech, and also, ore slimes.
sinful violet
Oh
Was I beating a dead horse
Sorry, stuff like that doesn’t show easy on mobile.
dense girder
yes I deleted it like 6 minutes ago
hollow shell
A BlackHand suggestion that isn't carried only on its sprites?
Madness!
rustic ember
I'm salty there's no rogue weapon
frail mantle
imagine one of my suggestions not being carried by it's sprites
west prairie
bruh my suggestions are so not carried by the sprites
if they were id just sprite any ol thing not stuff that legit needed content
dense girder
i mean, some of them...
frail mantle
holy basket-wearing slipper-wielding diss track-dropping meme-spitting mother of christ my Scourge of the Oceans suggestion got nearly 200 stars
dense girder
begging for stars? smh
dense girder
woosh
Warrior's Necklace - HM Accessory
❔ = Provides stat boosts only to True Melee weapons as well as giving Cross Necklace effects
🛠 = 1 Chain, 1 Warrior Emblem, 7 Hallowed Bars @ Mythril Anvil
Replaces the Warrior's Emblem in Yharim's Insignia recipe
revision of a suggestion i made, let's see, uhh
like 6 months ago
dusty stirrup
Is it really needed tho
hollow shell
Yeah I don't see the reasoning much
gaunt karma
there's no point in adding it in really
hollow shell
The original iteration made a bit more sense
Considering it would replace both the Cross Necklace and the Warrior Emblem in Insignia's recipe
gaunt karma
being able to combine cross necklace and warrior emblem earlier would actually be pretty nice
hollow shell
Considering melee makes the most use out of increased i-frames
True melee specifically
Hell, make it only increase True Melee damage and then the suggestion is just fine, Odditer
hollow shell
yeah lol
dense girder
yee fair enough
hollow shell
Before the #suggestions-voting rework, as you can see by the fap emote
dense girder
How's that
hollow shell
You didn't edit the recipe or purpose
hollow shell
Yeah that was the idea
dense girder
with what
dense girder
I mean recipe-wise
wait what
I'm con-- holy-- ok ok hold on
okay I got confused because I was looking at two iterations of the same suggestion
the one you posted and the one I found buried here from like 5 months ago
Warrior's Necklace - HM Accessory
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = Provides stat boosts only to True Melee weapons as well as giving Cross Necklace effects
🛠 = 1 Cross Necklace, 1 Warrior Emblem, 7 Hallowed Bars @ Mythril Anvil
= Replaces the Warrior's Emblem and Cross Necklace in Yharim's Insignia recipe. Also, True Melee is a class that needs immunity frames the most, so having a few extra would be beneficial to those playing it.
spiral olive
oh noice blackhand finished his donut weapons, looks cool and the weapons seem neat too
dense girder
is that better my brain is this close to short-circuiting
hollow shell
Yep, that looks good
Do you wanna include your years-old sprite?
(preferably resized)
dense girder
ehh
mining isn't in here, i'll still credit him but
i have no way of getting his ID
rip
hollow shell
I can get it for ya
spiral olive
also boosts to true melee seems kinda spooky to me, especially with stuff like striker and collider existing
dense girder
that'd be great, ty
spiral olive
it would make them even more powerful since you also get the extra i-frames, might be too strong imo
dense girder
reduces your DR in exchange?
hollow shell
MiningdiamondsVIII#7047
technical id: @torpid dew
dense girder
yeehaw ty
hollow shell
np
spiral olive
even with a dr reduction you can faceblast through stuff with adren/rage and the iframes you get
spiral olive
it just feels like a slippery slope to boost true melee even more
ashen warren
Iframes are capped already
dense girder
I made the original sprite
which I don't have but I can, safely say
it was actual, literal garbage
hollow shell
Heh
dense girder
then he saw it and I asked if he could help me out, to which he said yes
hollow shell
Whoop, the edit broke the ping
hollow shell
ye
dense girder
I hope my marbles get enough stars the only suggestion I've ever come close to loving as much as that one iiiiiiiisssssss
spiral olive
wait was the rule for post scal stuff removed?
spiral olive
oh
dense girder
in 44 minutes, blackhand has achieved what took me 5 hours. is the sprite really the difference, or did I fuck up the weapons???
gaunt karma
even better make warrior necklace frames stack with cross necklace frames and yharims frames, give you enough time to make a sandwich, maybe even some toast
hollow shell
I think it's the fact that Profaned Guardians are so gimped
His reasoning is more welcome.
gaunt karma
painful donuts
dense girder
chinken nunget
ashen warren
Nuggets are yharon kindle
dense girder
no!!!!!
gaunt karma
beese churger
dense girder
guardians is nungets