suggestions-discussion

[dense girder]

@molten hearth god-tier suggestion, the doll

i laughed out loud at "yeet the goblin tinkerer across the room" gj my man 👏

[uncut jetty]

tbh the fleet beacon's quote thing should be "Carrier has arrived" lol

[grand badger]

Thats SC2 right?

[uncut jetty]

ye

carrier has arrived.mp3

[leaden swift]

@grand badger nice starcraft reference

[grand badger]

Attack 2 is just yamato cannon, i know

[errant laurel]

I really like it as a concept, but I think a lot of those specifics for the attacks will be... Hard to code in-game.

Not a dev of any kind, the most I ever coded was a program to tell you the area of a triangle, but if manual minion targeting is a problem, I can see how having attacks that specifically target an enemy, and having multiple of those cycling between each other, would be a nightmare

[arctic wren]

Also the summon doesn't fit SCal at all. 🤔

[frail mantle]

Well neither does any of the weapons craftable once she is defeated

[grand badger]

^

[arctic wren]

that's different

they're dev items and like shadowspec I think once bosses post-scal are made they're going to move in progression with shadowspec?

iirc calamitous essence is what stuff will be made out of once scal becomes a progression boss

[frail mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

anyways, i like it

[arctic wren]

and honestly IMO post-scal isn't where summoner is most lacking (read: it isn't)

It's late-HM (and against Yharon but that's more due to AI not liking the teleport phase than anything else)

I think it'd fit great as a post-pillars upgrade to the xeno staff

[ashen warren]

Post scal isnt where summoner is lacking even though it doesn't have any weapons there besides immat, which is pre-scal?

[arctic wren]

given the only other option is the stardumb dragon who can't hit moonlord ever

[frail mantle]

Doesn’t Summoner still suffer a bit early Hardmode too?

[arctic wren]

depends on the boss

only really standout ones as harder than otherwise are Brimmy and Prime imo

And Brimmy isn't even that hard regardless if you have a good arena

[frail mantle]

Prime is hard for basically any class

[arctic wren]

Having range limited summons doesn't make it any easier

... actually instead of making it post pillars, make it pre-pillars

summoner doesn't have a good ravager option speaking of purely progression ... well outside of maybe the sand shark staff

(not that any of the summons are great on duke either ... maybe ufos are ok)

[ruby cobalt]

Hive pods exist.

[ashen warren]

entropy's vigil does pretty good vs ravager p1 last i checked, might be alright for p2 as well

[fossil torrent]

oddi what's your obession with dozens

[sudden quail]

I guess he's got dozens of ideas for it

[fossil torrent]

😤

[dense girder]

if i'm specific

people will call me out for hAviNg StaTs!!!! >:((((

there, changed it to 75-150

[fossil torrent]

why even have stats

just say a rough estimate

[hollow shell]

75-150 is a pretty big range

[radiant meadow]

@untold gulch you might want to rework the reasoning. It's a good suggestion, but spear of paleolith, ichor spear, and cursed dagger exist

[dense girder]

that's what I fucking did javyz

and you told me I had an obsession with dozens

🤦

[frail mantle]

Well i wouldn’t really say those are stats, just how many of each it drops

stats would be things like stating damage, use time, crit chance etc.

[fossil torrent]

Oh 75-150 not changed the amount from exactly 75 to exactly 150 sorry

Mb

[untold gulch]

aight, forgot those existed

changed its place in the progression

[tender obsidian]

pong

zerg slime rain kk

but yeah that is rng

so

fairenough

[gusty geode]

I didn't even finish reading that, it just got my star for being a Starcraft reference 👌

[faint rivet]

I see post-SCal summon
I star

[ashen warren]

Would a 'mining laser' of sorts for mage work?

[faint rivet]

As a weapon? Sounds impractical, breaking your arena while fighting a boss

[ashen warren]

Mortar_rounds.exe

[faint rivet]

Using mortar rounds in a fight

[cyan lagoon]

@sharp vault boss suggestions are not accepted

[sharp vault]

oh ok im sorry

[cyan lagoon]

it's fine

please read the pinned rules in suggestions first though to avoid things like this

[quick dove]

what ech emotE

[faint rivet]

This

[cyan lagoon]

not that one

this one

[faint rivet]

[hardy wing]

Yes

[vestal elbow]

[cyan lagoon]

anyway @hardy wing too little room for normal emotes unfortunately

Sad, i know

[hardy wing]

whatever this cat is

It’s inferior

[ruby cobalt]

We have enough slots though.

[opal barn]

We have 6 slots available

[cyan lagoon]

bear isn't inferior

[frail mantle]

don't insult bear like that when i'm near

[cyan lagoon]

anyways yes I was speaking a broad statement

[hardy wing]

who is bear 🤔

[cyan lagoon]

lilac's deceased kitty

he's blind

[opal barn]

Lilac's cat that passed away

[hardy wing]

[faint rivet]

[cyan lagoon]

even if it gets the 60 ⭐'s required it has to go through danny

can't just add them without warning, y'know

[hardy wing]

Yes

I just want to save the server

I saw a curse say any server without ech will die

[frail mantle]

emotes i'd like to see in this server:
:hellyes: and :ech:

[opal barn]

Hellyes used to be here but then got deleted in favor of

which is just bad

[sleek wigeon]

Why does anything have to be deleted in favor of anything?

we have 6 open emote slots

[hardy wing]

big meme small emote limit

[sleek wigeon]

SIX

open slots

just lying around

44/50 non gif emotes used

[ruby cobalt]

HELLYES isn't coming back btw

[faint rivet]

[sleek wigeon]

Hellyes wasnt even good

glad its gone

it looked wrathful but people used it as a heck yes.

its meaning was too blurred to be a good emote

[frail mantle]

well that's what it's for

[faint rivet]

At least I have nitro

[frail mantle]

a way to literally say "hell yes" with an image

[faint rivet]

[sleek wigeon]

it fails at that

in what way does that image say heck yeah i love that thing?

those are 100% "ima put a 10 foot dick in your butt" eyes

[faint rivet]

wtf

[ruby cobalt]

Thats how you describe your enthusiasm.

[lost agate]

I dont ... See the wrath on that

[fossil torrent]

:ech: and uhh

:cri: (sad cat)

[vestal elbow]

:duck2:

[faint rivet]

[fossil torrent]

yes

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/The_Slime_God
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page slime god for a direct link or !wiki search slime god for a list of all hits.

Calamity Mod Wiki

The Slime God

"It is a travesty, one of the most threatening biological terrors ever born."
The Slime God is a Pre-Hardmode boss that can be fought anywhere. The boss is comprised of three main parts, the Ebonian Slime God, the Crimulan Slime God, and the Core itself. All three will spawn upon the use of the Overloaded Sludge, regardless of whether the world generated contains Corruption or Crimson.

[fossil torrent]

why the fuck here

[lost agate]

Uh why here?

[ashen warren]

@dense girder actually slime god drops a lot of gel

[fossil torrent]

KING SLIME

not SLIME GOD

[ashen warren]

ik

I’m saying u already have a good gel farm

[fossil torrent]

True

[ashen warren]

why need king slime to drop a lot of gel

cuz all gel related weapons are post slime god

[fossil torrent]

Flamethrowers

and torches

there's just a couple of flamethrowers tho

[ashen warren]

I mean torches doesn’t consume a lot of gel

Only time u need gel is for flamethrower wep

and the first one is the one dropped by slime god

[fossil torrent]

Nope. From hive mind

[faint needle]

S H A D E T H R O W E R

[faint rivet]

Hive Mind has a flamethrower?

[worldly jay]

Is it a good idea, if I make railcart sprites for the Calamity mod? because terraria only has the 2 vanilla ones.

[frail mantle]

what

i don't understand what you're trying to say

[faint rivet]

^

[ruby cobalt]

He wants to sprite a minecart.

[eager palm]

you could resprite the vanilla ones and submit them in the texturepack server i guess

but if you wanna make new ones you can go in #suggestions-discussion and ask there

oh wait im retarded

i thought this was calam mod talk

[delicate raft]

okay

[faint rivet]

[worldly jay]

yes, definetly new ones I want to create.

[eager palm]

if you wanna make a new cart just go for it then

[ashen warren]

Would making the murasama gain size when swinging and hitting be a valid buff?

[agile cloud]

Yeah, make sure it has a reasonable cap though

[ashen warren]

No cap

[agile cloud]

oh yes, new scal butcher weapon

[worldly jay]

well, this is the first version of the Frigid cart. As the name tells it's made out of Frigid bars.

[frail mantle]

maybe the Murasama could gain size upon enemy hits until it's at the same size as whatever the biggest Calamity sword is

[simple sigil]

Isn't the biggest sword Earth?

[agile cloud]

iirc its exoblade

[ashen warren]

I mean, it solves the main problem with the murasama, it's a shiv compared to other swordw

[agile cloud]

yeah

[simple sigil]

Also why not have scoring a certain number of consecutive hits with Murasama contribute to your Rage meter?

[ashen warren]

It's true melee, so

[frail mantle]

basically, the Murasama is an exo true memee shortsword

[agile cloud]

basically

[faint rivet]

Basically

[ashen warren]

It's meant for Draedon iirc

[faint rivet]

Not literally

[simple sigil]

That you can get and use in pre-hardmode if you name your character Sam

[ashen warren]

But also can use legitimately if you beat yharob

[frail mantle]

you can get any exo weapon and use it pre-hardmode if you have Cheetsheat or Hero's Mod

[faint rivet]

Yharo🅱

[simple sigil]

I consider getting and using Murasama pre-yharon a legitimate strategy, albeit a massive sequence break

[agile cloud]

Yeah

so was killing wyrm back when coldheart and purified worked

[fossil torrent]

@simple sigil Biggest sword is Grand Guardian

[simple sigil]

And obviously it's only something you should do for fun

Cause murasama is classified as post-yharon under normal circumstances

and then someone tried to get a nohit role with murasama as their main weapon

[faint needle]

What if your name is sam and you like naming your characters after yourself

[faint rivet]

[tough trail]

ech

[worldly jay]

here is the final version of the Frigid cart. Craftable at a Ice machine with 5x frigid bars, 1x frost core, 50x ice blocks and 1x minecart. it could be faster than normal minecarts, and it could have a buff called: "Antarctic reinforcement" that makes an ice shield, like Cryogen. 5 sec duration with 50% damage reduction, but with a cooldown time of 15-20sec (stats are not final), and a thorns effect.

[ashen warren]

Would it have a thorns effect?

[simple sigil]

Higher collision damage probably

[worldly jay]

probably...

[cyan lagoon]

@opal barn i'm late but what

hellyes was never added here

[opal barn]

It was because I used it

[dense girder]

who pingerino

lmao thunstic

who then proceeded to get banned for being a brainlet 🗿

wait did he even read my suggestion

"Actually the slime god drops a lot of gel" triple 🗿 🗿 🗿 just for him

[frail mantle]

Wait what did he do

[sinful violet]

whoops

also @cyan lagoon It was added here, but was removed shortly afterwards.

[fossil torrent]

he got warned for big dumb and then left

[frail mantle]

Not surprised tbh

More times than not, you can’t trust default pfp’s as far as I’ve seen

[worldly jay]

so...how about my sprite I made earlier? How good it is?

[ashen warren]

It's decent for vanilla, go to the art server for advice

[hollow shell]

Most prevalent issue I can see is that you have a lot of noise
That is, different shades of the palette placed seemingly at random with no consideration for lighting or the shape/texture of the objects

Your ice palette could also be adjusted to have more contrast

[dense girder]

Slimedrop - Slime Rain Summoner
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = An item that summons the Slime Rain event.
🛠 = Can be purchased from the Dryad after going through the Slime Rain event once, or created at a Soldifier with Rain Clouds and Slime.
= The Slime Rain event can be a useful source of gel when it comes around, but it's currently entirely up to RNG on whether it ever even happens.

@worldly jay the white background detracts from it quite a bit and, like Rover said, there's a ton of noise

[hollow shell]

Having something crafted with the Torrential Tear is a bit of an issue

I cant remember if thats renewable via fishing or not

[dense girder]

You can find it in Shadow Chests in the Abyss and I'm pretty sure you can fish it up too

Not entirely sure though

I could modify it to summon either the Slime Rain or regular Rain

but that might have issues with accidentally summoning slime rain

[hollow shell]

If its only found in shadow chests then
theres a limited supply, potentially only 1

[dense girder]

fair enough i'll make it dryad only

[hollow shell]

Yeah I suppose

[dense girder]

I only used the Tear originally cause I thought the rain thing worked great

but yeah, if it has a limited supply, no-go

[hollow shell]

(or you could use an Umbrella)

[dense girder]

eeeehhh I mean I guess but the connection isn't as clear

[hollow shell]

True

[sinful violet]

or just like, shove rain clouds and slime into a solidifier

[dense girder]

MRRP

Genuus!!

[hollow shell]

[dense girder]

questions, rover

do you ever star suggestions?

i sometimes go through reactions on suggestions but I never see you

[sinful violet]

he does

[dense girder]

he just starred mine lmao understandable

thought it could be a no since dev bias but eh fair enough

[hollow shell]

I do

I'm not very consistent with it tbh

[dense girder]

Quick question: can summons be programmed to jump directly from enemy to enemy?

Like piranhas from the piranha gun?

I'm thinking of a summon that would be good except for the whole flying and sometimes missing the mark thing summons do

[hollow shell]

I guess they could

[sinful violet]

could be some boosting summon to keep it from getting too uninteresting

[hollow shell]

Minions are projectiles, and so is the piranha (or barracuda in Calamity)
wouldn't be hard to just reuse the code

[dense girder]

Yee lemme type out my suggestion rq then

[sinful violet]

you can only summon one or two, but the things they attach to have slightly lowered dr or something

[worldly jay]

@dense girder and @hollow shell you are right. I should make it look like a better shaded sprite, not just placing other colors randomly. I'll remake it on this weekend.

[dense girder]

👍

[hollow shell]

Good luck

[dense girder]

Vampire Squid - Post-Plantera Summon
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A summon that hops directly from enemy to enemy, stealing the life of whatever has the nearest HP within 25 blocks and returning it to its user.
🛠 = Dropped by Giant Squids at a 1/48 rate, or created at a Mythril Anvil using Black Ink, Lumenyl, Dark Tentacle (1/8 drop chance from Giant Squids).
= A life-stealing summon that hops directly from enemy to enemy would be a useful healing summon to have.

Thoughts? I need something else to craft it with because I can't think rn

[hollow shell]

I like it

[sinful violet]

yeah, life steal would be nice for summons.

[hollow shell]

Depth Cells is a natural other ingredient

[dense girder]

I was thinking of using them but

I'm a little annoyed that if a recipe has Lumenyl it's almost guaranteed to also have Depth Cells and sometimes tenebris

It'd be cool to have a weapon that just uses one instead of both

less farming involved

[hollow shell]

Maybe the Giant Squid (the dark tall one) can drop an ingredient for it? Like "Dark Tentacle"

[dense girder]

How about a life crystal?

[sinful violet]

it's consistency, unless you want to have a more specific/slightly different theme for your summon.

[dense girder]

Ohhhh hell yes that'd be good

Poor giant squid has no uses

[hollow shell]

and yeah I feel you on the Depth Cells Lumenyl thing

• Tenebris

[dense girder]

Edited it

1/48 drop chance from Giant Squids themselves, and the tentacle is a 1/6 drop chance

[hollow shell]

Hmmm
Is that like, an alternative for the devs to choose, or would both methods be implemented?

[dense girder]

Both

[hollow shell]

If the latter
thats weird

imo

[dense girder]

I think it'd be fitting seeing as the Colossal Squid also drops a summoning weapon

[ruby cobalt]

if you get the drop - cool
if you don't - here's another way to get the drop

[dense girder]

both drop but one can also be crafted

[hollow shell]

I'm not super into that but feel free to post

[dense girder]

Alternatively

I could make it a Giant Squid drop-only

[blissful heart]

I like the mothership suggestion

[dense girder]

Which would fit with the Colossal Squid dropping its summon only after Polter

[ashen warren]

Can't we just have an AoE drop for Giant squid.

[dense girder]

However at the same time

Adding a Dark Tentacle opens up future possibilities for other crafting recipes

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[dense girder]

I'm conflicted here

[hollow shell]

You can just post it
the devs can choose one or the other

or both

[ashen warren]

Add it to the Omega armor instead of the teeth

[dense girder]

Yee alright

[hollow shell]

mmm good idea

Maybe alongside the teeth, considering thats one of their only uses
but that might bloat the recipe a tad

[dense girder]

am I relevant to this conversation or this a different one

[hollow shell]

Diff

[sinful violet]

I don't think more abyss materials are needed

[dense girder]

i leave

but at the same time it could be used as a substitute in some existing abyss recipes replacing other stuff

so literally 95% of all abyss crafts aren't lumenyl, depth cells and tenebris

[hollow shell]

Indeed.

[dense girder]

I'll mull over this and weigh up some pros and cons before I post

[sinful violet]

Yeah but if the material was made squid themed specifically for a squid weapon, it’ll likely feel out of place in other recipes.

Or be in so few that it’ll feel unneeded.

The reason the abyss drops are in so many is because they’re very general.

[hollow shell]

What the heck is Tenebris?

[dense girder]

? https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Tenebris

[hollow shell]

Nah I mean like

[dense girder]

Ohhh I see

[hollow shell]

what is its theme

[dense girder]

As in "what is it in terms of the Abyss recipes"

[hollow shell]

I always thought of it as "the hard thing"
with Depth Cells being "the biological thing"
and Lumenyl being "the glowy energy thing"

[dense girder]

Recipes that could have replacements using the Dark Tentacle (the first one is my absolute favorite):

Sunken Stew -- Depth Cells < Dark Tentacle

like calamari, eh? food? it works so well

Seadragon, SDFMG, Neptune's Bounty could also use it

[hollow shell]

ye Sunken Stew is a definite usage

I'd have to think about all the other recipes for possible replacement

[dense girder]

wrong paste

[dense girder]

We had a good run, but time to get buried

Friendly reminder to post your suggestions here before there so you don't make an absolute fool of yourself

@obsidian ember

[obsidian ember]

Ah yeah sure

I'm planning to suggest shifting Statis' Ninja belt from the Belt of Curses recipie to Nanotech because Nanotech has no accessories in it's recipe. Then add spirit glyph to the belt of curses and make it have summon boosts only

[hollow shell]

Would Belt of Curses then be renamed?

[dense girder]

I don't think that's such a good idea imo

[hollow shell]

I can understand the reasoning
In fact that exact thing has been suggested in the past

actually
not exact thing

but

something very similar

[dense girder]

sent or suggested?

[obsidian ember]

Oh if it's just removing the rogue stats from the belt then i'll scrap that idea

[dense girder]

ye

[hollow shell]

This is the one
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/547967539154649099

Note, you can suggest that exact same thing
It's a valid thing to do

If your suggestion also reaches 65 stars, Busky's will be marked as highly suggested in the dev server

[dense girder]

but

if something is suggested and sent multiple times

but never implemented

doesn't that just mean it's a bad suggestion to do at all

[hollow shell]

That would mean that like 80 highly suggested suggestions are bad

so, no

[dense girder]

but if it keeps being sent, right?

and each time it isn't accepted

then are you just waiting for the right version to be sent

or are you wasting time

[hollow shell]

(there is another category for very very highly suggested suggestions)
(includes such suggestions as: any Exo-Gun, any grappling hook, any minecart, add more methods of getting Luminite, etc)

[dense girder]

because i'm p sure devs can alter a sent suggestion's stats, right, not major but minor to make it better

[hollow shell]

Yeah, all suggestions are subject to dev modification if they're getting implemented

[dense girder]

so why haven't highly suggested suggestions not been implemented?

time restraints, waiting for sprites?

because if they're sent so often and they can be changed by devs

then why aren't they just added?

[frosty kindle]

Including "all stats can be changed to developer likings" is what i usually put in my suggestion(s)

[hollow shell]

Priorities methinks, Odditer.
We're almost always focused on our own tentative schedule and plans
We haven't really given suggestions much focus at all, which shouldn't come as a surprise.

[frosty kindle]

also balancing a lot of vanilla and calamity weapons around bosses so that most weapons are given use can take time

[quiet abyss]

^

[hollow shell]

Well we've got cooldudes for testing

Not necessarily devs

[dense girder]

I mean more like those "Add more luminite sources" suggestions

[hollow shell]

But Fabsol does indeed need to make all of the adjustments

And yes the devs are considering Luminite sources

[dense girder]

"Add more luminite sources" really seems like it'd take about 30 minutes to implement i don't code idk

[hollow shell]

Nothing concrete yet but it is highly considered

[dense girder]

planetoids were removed right

[hollow shell]

Nope

[dense girder]

when the worlds were made regular size again

wtf then what happened to them

[hollow shell]

They're in the sky alongside the Floating Islands

[eager palm]

theyve gone rogue

[dense girder]

nasty

[frosty kindle]

since the expanded world stuff was causing issues, it was scrapped

[hollow shell]

Yeah it looked better with the increased world height but ^

Expanded world caused more problems than was worth it for the admittedly unnecessary extra space

[dense girder]

Crazy Fabsol just proposed to remove expanded world height from Calamity. Absolutely disgusting move! SAD!

[hollow shell]

Crooked Fabsol

[dense girder]

OH MY GOD

GET THIS

okay okay this is actually a really good idea hear me out here

the bobbit worm is one of the longest creatures alive, right?

[hollow shell]

I don't think so but go on anyway

[dense girder]

okay no that's dumb i'm stupid but it can grow up to 3m in length anyways

bobbit worms drop... nothing, essentially

[hollow shell]

Are you gonna suggest "Bobbit Hook"

[dense girder]

so how about they have a 25% chance to drop the longest-reaching grappling hook in the game?

oh hell yeah sors I am

[hollow shell]

It's been done

but

[fervent zealot]

abyss suggestions? count me in

[dense girder]

[fervent zealot]

let's brainstorm, "gang"

[hollow shell]

same principle as weapons applies

If you suggest a Bobbit Hook, it will be sent separately to the previously sent Bobbit Hook

cuz of function differences

[dense girder]

there are no hooks in calamity currently, right?

[hollow shell]

None.

btw
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/510970869955428374

That's the one.

[dense girder]

fucker even suggested 20% too goddamn

ah well

actually that's a very good idea for it

i'll leave the bobbit worm alone for now 😔

time to see which other abyss enemies drop nothing

bloatfish 👀

@fervent zealot help, bloatfish item ideas?

[fervent zealot]

hmm

they're only layer 4 right

[dense girder]

yeah

and also stupid hard to kill

[fervent zealot]

why not a bloatfish sac that boosts your defense massively after getting hit for a short time

[dense girder]

actually I'm just gonna suggest something out of the gate hold on

[fervent zealot]

something like that perchance

[dense girder]

Change up the Abyss generation and increase its darkness effects.
It doesn't matter how the generation is changed, but just change it. Keep the islands with the chests, keep the shrine at the bottom, but make it wider, or larger, at least.
The main problem with the Abyss is that the music, the darkness, the creatures -- it's all supposed to give off a sense of fear, or suspense, right? But the Abyss is cramped in some respects -- not particularly thin but at the same time not particularly wide. You can easily spot monsters and attack them from a safe distance. Making it darker and wider would make it more suspenseful, less safe, and much more atmospheric, contributing to an enjoyable gameplay experience.

[hollow shell]

The problem with making it wider

is

the dungeon

[dense girder]

I realise

[ashen warren]

it already can cuck large world dungeons too

[dense girder]

Couldn't the dungeon then be moved when generated more to the right?

[hollow shell]

noooo

[dense girder]

gah this is unrealistic

i just get super duper fucking pissy over this one aspect of the abyss

[hollow shell]

We all wish the Abyss could be wider

[fervent zealot]

so like, why not
move it to the other side of the world and get thorium to change their depths to generate dungeon side

[dense girder]

it's a good idea but the dungeon makes it not work and THORIUM blocks placing it on the other side

[hollow shell]

but unfortunately

oof

[dense girder]

aren't their depths wide

idk i've never played thorium

[hollow shell]

Yes, very wide

Like the Underground Desert

[dense girder]

hECH

[fervent zealot]

but not very deep compared to abyss though

[hollow shell]

Yeah not deep at all

[dense girder]

okay so how about

[hollow shell]

like 1/3 or 1/4 of the Abyss

[dense girder]

if thorium and calamity are enabled when a world is made, it generates as it does now

but if calamity only, it generates on the other side with much greater structure

that way it's a win/win as i see it

calamity enthusiasts get bigbyss and thorium enthusiasts retain their dumb depths

[fervent zealot]

:ech: i like depths and abyss and i still want big boy abyss

[hollow shell]

Probably also not going to happen
due to the Abyss's connection to the Dungeon (Eidolists, Polterghast)

Apart from that I can't think of any
major reasons for not doing that

[dense girder]

the Polterghast connection only extends to immediately killing Polterghasts and then moving straight to the Abyss as I see it

[hollow shell]

except for
the work involved in testing it and bug fixing and etc

[dense girder]

which isn't... a huge problem

yeah the code could be hard

but a simple recognize-which-mods-are-enabled-when-made code block shouldn't be too hard right

then it's a simple if block

[hollow shell]

Yeah it's easy to check for other mods iirc

But worldgen is infamous for its bullshit

[fervent zealot]

honestly if a day comes when we can have thorium calamity cross content i'd make an abyssal depths suggestion in a heartbeat

[dense girder]

Bloatfish Sac - Accessory (joint suggestion with @fervent zealot)
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = An accessory that can be gotten at any time but most likely post-Polterghast if you're not insane. On hit, gain massively boosted defense and inflict all enemies within a large radius with Crush Depth for an extended period of time (cooldown of 45 seconds).
🛠 = Dropped from Bloatfish at a 15% rate.
= Bloatfish drop nothing, so giving them an item would give them a purpose other than being meat shields, and an accessory that functions like this would be useful to have.

Thots and eye deers?

[fervent zealot]

sounds like yes

[hollow shell]

Their purpose was kinda supposed to be meat shields from the beginning

But

s'good

[dense girder]

changed it a little

extended period of time, but longer cooldown

e.g. 10 seconds use, 45 second cooldown

[hollow shell]

Wait, you should reverse the defense gain and the enemy infliction of Crush Depth

[dense girder]

like Shadow Dodge

[hollow shell]

makes it look like you give the enemies defense

[dense girder]

there ye ge

[fervent zealot]

due to dia's luigi%ing defense shit's been nerfed into the ground so we need to bring it back

[hollow shell]

Nice

Also yeah this probably would be used for luigi%ing

[dense girder]

luigi%ing?

[hollow shell]

Beating bosses by sitting still and doing absolutely nothing

[fervent zealot]

beating a boss without actually moving

aka cheese embodied in a pure form

[dense girder]

45 second cooldown

[dusty stirrup]

Luigi% with post-polter bosses is a really hard time, especially with the recent nerf

[fervent zealot]

yeah, 45 seconds is enough for it to be useful but not luigi% useful

[dense girder]

also i'll get to work on that abyss wideboi'ing suggestion

[dusty stirrup]

also we're gonna give abyss enemies more unique drops soon™ anyway

[ashen warren]

[sinful violet]

abyss is kinda booked for new stuff rn odd

i wouldn't bother

[dense girder]

items-wise or generation-wise

[sinful violet]

perhaps

[fervent zealot]

OwO

[dense girder]

dm me the answer i won't tell i just nEED TO KNOW FOR MY FAVORITE BIOME

[fervent zealot]

same

[dense girder]

also so i don't suggest something already implemented

[dusty stirrup]

It's better kept as a secret

[sinful violet]

it's something a bit weird to explain without revealing too much

[dusty stirrup]

UwU

[sinful violet]

so no

[fervent zealot]

y e u g h

[dense girder]

i hate surprises

like don't throw this at me ease me into this shit

[sinful violet]

too bad

[fervent zealot]

please mrrp give us the tasty information and also ech emote

[dense girder]

alrighty

i'll suggest bloatfish sac tho cause epic

[sinful violet]

just make new weapon ideas or stuff

[dusty stirrup]

I could get behind a bloatfish sac tbh

[fervent zealot]

what tier abyss isn't getting as much content

[dense girder]

all of them

[fervent zealot]

tell us so we can suggest for the right place

[dense girder]

[sinful violet]

perhaps

[dusty stirrup]

definitely post-polter

[dense girder]

calling it

[fervent zealot]

so more bottom abyss thinglets ok

[dense girder]

the devil fish will drop the stone mask from jojo

[sinful violet]

sure

[dense girder]

wait wtf bruh i just suggested for the lowest layer

this is so unepic

[fervent zealot]

more

[dense girder]

will there ever be an abyss boss?

is it a foreseeable possibility?

[fervent zealot]

sounds like hell so probably not

[dense girder]

it sounds amazing

fighting a boss in the abyss? i'd love that

could be post-polter or sm

father eidolon

[dusty stirrup]

smh you can just fight eidolon wyrm for now

[dense girder]

more like eidolon nerd

szavak i'll save the sac for later

after the update maybe

[fervent zealot]

nah leave it dropped for now

now's best chance of getting abyss stuff in, while it's still a buggy content lacking mess

[dense girder]

they just said they're adding new stuff

let's see what the new stuff is when the update comes out

[sinful violet]

or are we

[dense girder]

then we can see what will be a best new item

PAULBLARYT

I have idea

[sinful violet]

have fun with it

[dense girder]

Mask Salesman (yes zelda reference), sells masks (vanity) that can be references

and yes, i am suggesting this purely for the hope of getting the jojos stone mask and fable 1 jack of blades mask

owo

[sinful violet]

yeah good luck with that

[dense girder]

if it gets officially accepted

spriters will fuck me up out of anger

[fervent zealot]

i have good luck though

[dusty stirrup]

[dense girder]

@topaz bramble post here before there

or not

[hollow shell]

Rogue, btw

not Throwing.

[topaz bramble]

fuck

sorry lol

[hollow shell]

s'fine

[dense girder]

For an additional price, the Goblin Tinkerer can rename your weapons e.g. The God's Gambit > "Slime-yo"

Renames your item for a price based on its tier. The name is in "quotation marks", to distinguish from actual weapon names.

how's that

[hollow shell]

Minecraft

[lost agate]

Absurdly hard to code imo

[hollow shell]

Also it's already done with the Item Customizer (ShaderLib) mod

[lost agate]

For no apparent reason whatsoever

[dense girder]

but that's not calamity

[hollow shell]

Suggestion:
Add Thorium to Calamity

[dense girder]

Take my star

[lost agate]

I never agree for the kind of suggestions that are like "this would be cool to have" i want something actually useful

[dense girder]

there's already a lot useful in calamity

it could also use some cool

[hollow shell]

s'not worth it to do the renaming thing in Calamity

[dense girder]

fe

[hollow shell]

It would only cause conflicts with the actual
item renaming mod

and be endless frustration for Fab either way

[fervent zealot]

honestly yes add thorium to calamity our power must grow we are the collective

[quick dove]

yes

[dense girder]

Potion of Discovery - Potion
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = Used by clicking anywhere on the map. On use, teleports you there and reveals everything (within a medium radius of the tile where you clicked) on your map. Does not teleport you or get used if the area you clicked on is a filled block other than air.
🛠 = Created at an Alchemy Table with a Teleportation Potion, a Spelunker Potion, Murky Paste, Maneater Bulbs, Demonic Bone Ash, Ancient Bone Dust
= Would be useful in exploring unexplored caves or regions of the world.

[crimson silo]

Do you die if you portal into a wall? :^)

[dense girder]

just doesn't work then

but if you teleport over lava, well, tough

unlikely if you teleport within the upper 2/3 of the cave layers though

[ashen warren]

RoD would kinda be useless

[dense girder]

this is meant for long-range teleportation

RoD is on-screen, it wouldn't be able to go anywhere on the map

not to mention chaos state makes it pretty inefficient for exploring as is

[dusty stirrup]

So basically a "fuck exploration" potion?

[dense girder]

except, you know, it's hard as hell to craft

well it will be

if i can find a good fuckin ingredient hold on

[hollow shell]

Teleportation Potions are already hard to come by

[dusty stirrup]

Doesn't seem like a very hard recipe

[hollow shell]

At least in my experience

[dense girder]

true shadow scales?

purified gel???

[raven kite]

I'd say make it out of Purified Gel, if anything.

Make it out of the 1-time drop potion from SG even.

[dusty stirrup]

Make it use those jungle mats that are only used in jungle dew

[dense girder]

eehhh too far

[dusty stirrup]

[dense girder]

oh yeah uh

maneater bulb, murky pas--

actually fuck that is a good idea

changed it

now it has 7 ingredients

is that hard enough

[hollow shell]

Jesus Christ

[novel pebble]

An Exo weapon

[dense girder]

well it's very hard

as requested

no murky sludge now

[dusty stirrup]

Yes I approve

[hollow shell]

Alright now take a break from suggestions

3 within two hours (plus one from much earlier today but s'like right next to the other ones)

[dense girder]

oh shit you're right

i've posted a lot today balls

i'm going to retreat into my thermal cavity

[hollow shell]

Have fun

[dense girder]

ye

and thanks for all the help 👍

[hollow shell]

👍

[hollow shell]

@ebon barn Why a hotkey and not a tool/weapon or accessory?

[torn creek]

with many mods, we don't have enough hotkeys left

it should be a tool imo

[ebon barn]

Because it seems like it should be basic functionality. Shouldn't have to carry an extra weapon on revengeance just to initiate a fight.

[hollow shell]

Golden Gun and Lunic Eye, among the other classless stuff, were kinda designed with summoners in mind

You could use those

[frosty kindle]

speaking of summon-support weapons... would a melee-styled weapon that was classlesss/summon work?

with its intent being keeping enemies away from the player, or dealing damage up close, thwarting boss servants away etc.

[hollow shell]

I'd support it if it had a unique method of attack
Just a normal sword or spear with the damage type changed is no no

[ebon barn]

How about a more endgame oriented gun that applies armor crunch and marked for death? And then treat the issue with the cultists as a bug (because even after you attack them your summons still won't)

[hollow shell]

@west prairie Smh at least give it a name

[west prairie]

Named

[cold terrace]

why wouldnt you make it a hamaxe

[west prairie]

an axe exists for that set

[cold terrace]

im uh, not really convinced there needs to be a hammer for the perennial set when "the axe" is a drop from plantera and a pwnhammer is sufficient enough

[radiant meadow]

@restive karma supreme mana pots already exist

[restive karma]

Well then

[hollow shell]

lol

[cold terrace]

great minds think alike? :^)

[west prairie]

b3 its for set completion's sake

[hollow shell]

Cryonic lacks an axe

[cold terrace]

^

[west prairie]

yeah i was gonna sprite that actually

or maybe a chainsaw

[hollow shell]

Naah chainsaw wouldn't fit...
although it would look very cool

[cold terrace]

arent chainsaws/drills objectively worse

[hollow shell]

Drills are

Chainsaws I think are identical

[cold terrace]

calamity could buff drills so they're identical and give the player a real option

but thats about as low priority as a reaver hammer

[ashen warren]

Imo drills and saws should have less range and be faster

[cold terrace]

that makes sense

[ashen warren]

Main differences are picks can swing a different direction than you are mining in, and picks get bonus speed from prefixes

[west prairie]

isnt daedalus based on the remains of an exploded high tech city

[hollow shell]

A bit weird new lore

The set definitely looks magical

[cold terrace]

damn, there are suggestions that havent been checked all the way back to last monday

[hollow shell]

Yeah sorry about that

[ashen warren]

Rework tools

Picks, axes and hammers are straight up better than drills, saws and the rare jackhammer.

Currently normal versions of each tool benefit from speed increasing modifiers, and can swing a different direction to the one the tool is in.

In my opinion, the mechanical versions of each tool should be faster and have less range, they should also recieve a damage boost, considering you must stop mining or change to a weapon to attack enemies. The speed increase they get should be better than the alternate with the best speed modifier.

[cold terrace]

I would star this ngl. A change to make alternate tools is necessary and the vanilla devs should have done something similar in 1.2 when they introduced hardmode ore picks and removed the hamdrax

[hasty wigeon]

I have literally never used the bat hook, nor do I even know how to get it

[hollow shell]

Opening Goodie Bags during Halloween

[hasty wigeon]

ok

[hollow shell]

or
using mods that let you get Goodie Bags outside of Halloween

[ashen warren]

The bat hook is hecking insane

[hollow shell]

It's the fastest hook in the game, I think?

[ashen warren]

It beats the lunar hook

[hollow shell]

Nah it doesn't, but it's almost tied

in both reach and speed

and it's obtainable from the beginning of the game.

[hasty wigeon]

I only use hooks for movement speed in like pre hardmode

I've seen what it in can do in pvp

but I don't see much a problem with it

[hollow shell]

It's too good

[ashen warren]

Hooks are pretty essential for stuff like nohits or DM

[radiant meadow]

hooks help you reset flight time

[hasty wigeon]

Ik that bit

[ashen warren]

Bat hook is lunar pillar tier and it's pre-boss

[hasty wigeon]

I'd rather have one with range

probably just cause I've never used it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

Like rover said, it's longer than 90% of hooks

[hasty wigeon]

ok

then just make it a crafted thing

using broken bat wings

and like, darksun

idk

[hollow shell]

That's actually not a bad idea-

okay Darksun is too far

[hasty wigeon]

ye

[hollow shell]

but Broken Bat Wings is alright

[ashen warren]

Grapple hook and a broken bat wing

[hasty wigeon]

that's still just HM tho

[ashen warren]

It's post plant

[hasty wigeon]

Solar Eclipses are post plant..?

is that a calamity thing?

[ashen warren]

Good shit from it is

Have you played the mod?

[hasty wigeon]

yes

I've done 2 revengance playthroughs

Literally never noticed

[hollow shell]

Wait they are?

[hasty wigeon]

see, not just me

[ashen warren]

Broken bat wings are from pumpking iirc

[hasty wigeon]

no

vamp bat

[hollow shell]

Vampire in Solar Eclipse, yeah

You're thinking of Black Fairy Dust

[ashen warren]

There is no vampire ba- ah, vampires.

[hasty wigeon]

name of enemy changes to vampire bat in bat form

I think?

[ashen warren]

No

Still just vampire

[lucid marsh]

Coming up with a tank-like accessory dropped by ravager or plantera. I’ll post it here for criticism in a bit

[ashen warren]

Tank how?

[lucid marsh]

Belt of the Survivor

Dropped by plantera(?) in revengance mode (100% chance)

Accessory: Makes any attack that would do more than 20% of your max hp do zero damage (like black belt) and the next attack does the square root of the damage it would have done (rounded up). These effects can trigger once per minute (refresh timer starts on the first hit and if the timer finishes before the second hit, the effect just resets and you take no damage again)

Reason: tank style is almost completely non-viable in calamity, unlike vanilla, which has specific armors that prioritize defense. I like playing as tank (and I’m bad at dodging) so I’d rather use another accessory slot for defense than have yet another damage increasing accessory

Appearance: a brilliant emerald belt

[hollow shell]

wtf why square root

[lucid marsh]

Because it’s less but not zero

[hollow shell]

just make it like 1/10th

or 1/5th

[lucid marsh]

And it’s less boring than a flat damage reduction

So it’s something to set it apart

[ashen warren]

Doesn't fab not like tanking bc people'll do nothing?

[hollow shell]

Weird math isn't very exciting . _.

[lucid marsh]

It is to me

[hollow shell]

And yeah the reason tanking isn't viable in Calamity is because Fab hates cheesing
and tanks are easy cheesers

See: luigi%

[ashen warren]

Fab hates cheesing
Purified jam

[lost agate]

Blame diamen

Purified jam is absurdly limited

[lucid marsh]

You’d still have to dodge, it just trades one of your many doing more damage accessories for being allowed to get hit every once in a while instead of doing every fight in like 7 hits or less

[lost agate]

Like what, 3 per world and character?

[hollow shell]

Nah it's 6-8

[lucid marsh]

8-10 ish per world and character

[ashen warren]

Which is more than enough tbh

[lost agate]

But... Thats not cheesing

[ashen warren]

Invincibility isn't?

[lost agate]

You aint gonna kill a boss in the amount of time you are invicible because of jam

[lucid marsh]

I agree for my accessory, you have to sacrifice bonus dps

[worthy raptor]

Shucks, shucks

[lost agate]

And if you wanna kill a boss using jam it will take you almost if all of your jams

[lucid marsh]

And for jam, you have to use it wisely. I ran out because I tried using it on DoG in rev mode, ran out because it wasn’t enough for me

[worthy raptor]

Have you used jam + night's stabber on WoF

[lucid marsh]

Yeah that happened to me on DoG.

[worthy raptor]

1, 2 jams at most needed

[lost agate]

Isnt night stabber with rippers just strong?

[worthy raptor]

Ye

[ashen warren]

*cheese

[worthy raptor]

It's big dum

[lucid marsh]

Well yeah

[hollow shell]

But then you used up your Jam for that boss

[worthy raptor]

(But it's also really fun please don't kill it)

[hollow shell]

At least some of it

[ashen warren]

Shivs were always memes, like halibut

[lost agate]

Now you got 5-7 so GL cheesing anything more with that

[lucid marsh]

But I say if people want to cheese, let em, and just make some way to tell them apart from the people that are really good at the game

[ashen warren]

Especially when grading their nohit

[lost agate]

Jams are banned in nohits

[ashen warren]

I meant cheese in general but yeah

[lucid marsh]

I can beat every vanilla expert mode thing no problem, but I can barely beat normal Supreme calamitas

[lost agate]

Cheesing is also banned

[ashen warren]

Wonder why

[lost agate]

Because its a nohit not "prevent hits"

[ashen warren]

I really wonder why

[lost agate]

Whats your point?

[ashen warren]

Point?

[lucid marsh]

That’s completely fine, but close to nohit shouldn’t be the only way to play

Did fab say they didn’t want deathmode to be fun?

[lost agate]

Uuh no?

[lucid marsh]

I saw someone say that somewhere. Must have been fake

[ashen warren]

Anyways, would an accessory that increases invincibility frames when hitting a target with a true melee strike be interesting?

[lucid marsh]

Also I posted my idea

Yes

[ashen warren]

Close to nohitting is what fab likes, tanking is downright broken in vanilla.

[lucid marsh]

But it would be banned for nohits

[lost agate]

Wouldnt that be jam 2.0?

[lucid marsh]

Yes but to be honest what fab likes isn’t fun for everyone

[lost agate]

Werent you ranting that just now??????

[ashen warren]

This is fabs mod, not yours.

[lost agate]

Also, ofc hardest difficulty is gonna be demanding

[lucid marsh]

I know, I was about to say, Now it’s totally his right to make the mod how he wants

[lost agate]

Want something not so demanding??? Dont do death

[lucid marsh]

I don’t play death mode

[ashen warren]

Get clam nerf

^

[lucid marsh]

What’s clam nerf?

[ashen warren]

clam = CaLAMity

[lucid marsh]

Oh

[gusty geode]

For the longest time I'd been meaning to ask about config options for people who like the mod but disagree on some of Fab's more debatable design choices
Stuff like raising/disabling the DR cap, making the Astral Infection spread, etc

[lost agate]

The astral doesnt spread

[ashen warren]

Smh

[gusty geode]

That's the problem

[lost agate]

And DR cap is there because of DR memes

Theres clentaminator

Everyone was ranting about crimson/corruption spreading unwantedly

So why do it too?

[gusty geode]

I imagine I'm not alone when I say that a biome called the Astral Infection should be able to infect blocks on it's own, but I can see where the people who hate spreading biomes are coming from
Hence why I want it to be a configurable option, to satisfy both sides

[ashen warren]

This community would fight over having the configs exist or not

Why tf do you want it to spread?

I've seen nobody call that mechanic fun at all

[hollow shell]

Loar

[ashen warren]

I like not having a normal forest biomr

Isn't annoying at all

[gusty geode]

I'll admit my main reasoning is because lore
But it's just as easy to contain with the Clentaminator as it is to spread with it, so I don't see why everyone's making a big deal out of it

[hollow shell]

Ehhh not the best reason

[ashen warren]

Jungle vore

[lost agate]

Clentaminator range isnt enough to properly contain biomes

[hollow shell]

Clentaminator doesn't contain, btw

[ashen warren]

The problem is that containing is not as easy as spreading

[hollow shell]

It just pushes the problem back

[ashen warren]

You need to drill 5 block walls lined with clay throughout the world

[gusty geode]

Fixing jungle vore is as easy as making spreading biomes not convert mud into dirt I have a funny feeling that's harder than it sounds but still

[hollow shell]

The clay lining isn't necessary in my experience

Just the holes work.

[ashen warren]

Claymity is for the corruptions spikey things

[hollow shell]

Hm

[ashen warren]

Dirt lining removal involves using the building elements of the game, which are thoroughly abandoned in the direction the mods takes it.

[hollow shell]

Not really the sandbox element so much as the building element

Sandbox means doing whatever you want

[ashen warren]

Which people don't do for some reason

[lost agate]

not sandbox
Non linearity update

[hollow shell]

Yeah lol

Calamity makes good strides toward fixing Hardmode's strict linearity

[ashen warren]

"Rev is too hrrd" then like, don't play rev
"That's a bad argument" how

[hollow shell]

(who is that referring to)

[ashen warren]

DR cap idjits

[hollow shell]

((why mention them?))

[gusty geode]

I miss the days where you could theoretically skip Hardmode entirely because Eidolists spawned in the Abyss pre-hardmode

[lost agate]

...

[ashen warren]

Stuff like raising/disabling the DR cap

You still can

Just do it

Nobody is stopping you except yourself

[hollow shell]

Yeah actually, that feature wasn't removed, Relevant

Just checked the source
The Hardmode check only applies for them spawning in the Dungeon

and they can always drop the tablet

God I hope somebody tries that at some point

Pre-WoF Moon Lord Challenge

[ashen warren]

Sounds hella fun

Starcannon

[hollow shell]

It would take so long
so many attempts

but if it can be pulled off that person will be accepted as the local God

[ashen warren]

I'm used to lots of attempts at stuff, pantheon of hallownest flashbacks

[lost agate]

Anyway, this doesnt look like suggestion talk anymore so go to #calamity-mod-talk or something

[hollow shell]

True.

[ashen warren]

Updating this one: An accessory that increases invincibility frames when hitting a an enemy (not a dummy/statue spawned enemy) with a true melee strike, no projectiles or whatnot. Caps once a time limit has been reached. Would be balanced as certain bosses are hard to track or simply become impossible to hit for periods of time. Taking damage is still possible, especially since for it to be useful, the player has to go near the boss. Does not activate with cross necklace or its derivatives, but provides a higher immunity time when capped at the cost of losing damage.

[lost agate]

.... You just run into the bosses and thats how reach them, being invincible would make it op

[hollow shell]

I assume the 2 second max i-frames still applies

[lost agate]

Oh if its two seconds with a cooldown it could work

[hollow shell]

Which is still good

yeah

[ashen warren]

I'm unsure if that would give enough leeway to be noticeable?

Would make polter facetank still viable after the update

Polter smelly

[lost agate]

Semi luigi memes

[ashen warren]

Tarragon armor contact damage halving

I'm also unsure if I should make the accessory reduce the size of true melee weps in general

That shouldn't really matter

Size is a very small part of trumelee anyway

Only useful in swords like GG because it hits ml hands easily

[blissful heart]

Gg?

[ashen warren]

Grand Guardian

GG = Grand Guardian

[blissful heart]

Ahh

Ok

Theres all these different abbreviations I'm new to

[ashen warren]

Probably the best sword

damnit timer you sniped me

[blissful heart]

[ashen warren]

It's so hard to get ideas out this early ugh.
All I want for the true melee concept is a cross necklace that rewards taking a risk and staying near a boss while hitting them with the blade. Perhaps defense/DR could be lowered somehow in exchange for the buff?

I just don't know how the stats would work

Trumelee is massive dps however you run the risk of dying a horrible death, the accessory alleviates some of the risk without doing anything about the insane damage.

So, increasing the chance of death?

Making it nerf damage would work

Or have negative life regen

Like mana overloader

Would making the player slower work as well?

Slower doesn't matter because CS

That's something you're gonna be spamming anyway

Nerf damage over time spent attacking the boss?

Sustained damage giving a scaling damage nerf

After 4 seconds every 10 frames you lose 1% of damage and every 15 frames you lose 1% crit
..Or something like that

Resets after 5 seconds or whatever

Or be unable to rip while at max I frames

Ripper buffs are fine as is imo, you're doing nothing in the case of adrenaline and with rage if you get booped you lose it

Also, it's pretty fun to activate both and then shred a boss with your op weapon

I mean in order to counter people who build rage with trumelee strikes and then use the Iframes to harvest more/cling to their enemy

Oh that's easy, make it remove the rage on enemy hit effect

Damage re-absorption or whatever

I got inspired

Heart of rage
Negative life regen that scales with your dps
Ripper modes deal more damage and charge much faster if you're using a trumelee weapon

Heart of peace
DPS goes down massively with sustained attacks and rage can no longer be gained with trumelee strikes
Trumelee attacks give 2 seconds of invulnerability with an 8 second cd
Whatcha think? @ashen warren

Feel free to steal

Ain't mine buddy

Based off your idea bucko

I don't wanna be associated with this, pal

Why not amigo?

[hollow shell]

Those sound like ridiculous extremes

Actually if you activated either ripper mode you'd just die instantly

[ashen warren]

I don't think the scaling is 1x1

[hollow shell]

Well yeah but

s'gotta be a lot of DoT

[ashen warren]

There would be a cap rover

Imagine dying because you landed a hit

Imagine dying

Imagine dying

Imagine killing the chat

[pliant bone]

Are suggestions on changing some aspects of a boss out of the question

[ashen warren]

No, adding is the only naughty

[ruby cobalt]

nope, so long as you give proper reasoning

[pliant bone]

As long as it doesnt involve complete ai change?

[ruby cobalt]

complete AI changes are allowed too, but you'll need to thorougly explain what the fuck do you want to happen

[pliant bone]

[radiant meadow]

So I have this suggestion to completely change the AI of the Slime Gods
Now there is no escape. They cling to you forever and become invulnerable and inescapable until you die. They enjoy spawncamping

[hard crescent]

^dont even let them despawn after death. this is your life now.

[ashen warren]

Sounds good, ⭐

Doesn't despawn after turning off the computer for ideal game design

[proven tide]

oh my god

Worm scarf + mechworm + stardust dragon + sepulcher + god slayer

• minion accessories and buffs for years

= ULTIMATE WORM BOY

[ashen warren]

The sepulcher is like scals phylactery, she has control over it because it's part of her soul.

[frail mantle]

Hahayes

i’m just gonna scrap the tooltip then

[ashen warren]

Or, maybe not.

Checked the wiki and I can't find anything

Why not the Brimstone Monsters?

They aren't worms so much easier to code

[frail mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i just thought that a worm that doesn’t just choke enemies would be more interesting than another melee-type minion

[ashen warren]

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure that fab is not making another worm summon period.

[frail mantle]

Fuk

[ashen warren]

Now that I think about it..

Has any mod other than calamity actually added a worm summon?

[sleek wadi]

He basically copy-pasted the Stardust Dragon code for Mechworm and it somehow broke, I don't want to see what a 2nd mechworm would do.

[frail mantle]

SacredTools has a worm summon

[ashen warren]

Doesn't that not work on current tmodloader?

[fossil torrent]

A worm summon which code you can’t copy from stardust...

yikes

[ashen warren]

I don't see why it would break like, at all.

Same code but different sprite

[fossil torrent]

Who knows

Somehow the code is totally copied but it’s still the buggiest thing in the game

pretty damn strange

[sleek wadi]

Remember that Terraria has a bunch of spaghetti code. IIRC there was a bug with fonts that was related to the corruption background of all things.

[ashen warren]

Hold the sun when the game loads

[ashen warren]

Bruh

[proven tide]

beetle scarf

[ashen warren]

That's an A+++ suggestion

[sonic quest]

Woah.. that needs 65 stars asap

[proven tide]

something something 170 bees

[sleek wadi]

Real bruh suggestion we got here.

[ashen warren]

Not editing or removing it seems

But... Why?

[sleek wadi]

What does this Beetle Scarf do? Why do we need it? How do you get it? Detail your suggestions.

[random tide]

Beetle scarf LuL

[ashen warren]

@opal barn in suggestions

[opal barn]

Don't overuse emotes or I will shoot and scream @proven tide

[worthy fiber]

Why must we tell them to elaborate

[opal barn]

@reef mountain also elaborate on the suggestion or I will delete it

[reef mountain]

ok

currntly working on it.

[proven tide]

yes terabyte o7

[fossil torrent]

Beetle scarf
Beetle scarf

[worthy fiber]

Work on it before you post in #suggestions-voting

[proven tide]

170beestle scarf

[reef mountain]

done

[frail mantle]

So..it’s Beetle Armor, except an accessory instead of an actual armor set?

[reef mountain]

one beetle only

no stacking beetles

[ashen warren]

Feels like it's pretty pointless, 15 seconds for just 10% damage, speed, and crit?

I'd just use void

12% is a little better

[reef mountain]

36% increased dps...

[ashen warren]

After 15 seconds of continuous attacks, so no RoDing

No using anything, and you have to hit at least once every 3 seconds

[reef mountain]

the consicusive melee attack is calculated the same way as beetle armor

you can still rod.

[ashen warren]

neither buff affects the caps
sigh nevermind

[reef mountain]

right, i think i balanced it out(both beetles now can be active at once)

but the buffs are weakened

[sleek wadi]

Wouldn't melee have the most build diversity due to LACK of accessories and thus free reign to choose any general accessory they desire?

Not to mention of the 5 classes Melee is the only one to have an actual, developed subclass in true melee.

[reef mountain]

well, that makes them kinda weak.

also true melee is nerfed to hell

[ruby cobalt]

No it isn't lmao.

[ashen warren]

Melee is far from weak

It's strong from cryo onwards

[reef mountain]

it's not very free though.

[ashen warren]

Not average, strong

[frail mantle]

True memee is stronk, with the downside that you have to hug enemies

[ruby cobalt]

That's the fucking point.

[frail mantle]

exactly

[ruby cobalt]

"lole I cand pruss a buton and evriding diededdddd xddddd"

[frail mantle]

It ain’t weak is what i’m saying

[reef mountain]

i wasn't complaining about true melee at all...

[ruby cobalt]

You seem to not understand what the mod tries to do.

[ashen warren]

true melee is nerfed to hell
not complaining
Huh?

[reef mountain]

the caps on speed makes many builds lackluster(e.g hallowed armor and mechanical gauntlet+tipsy)
this accessory breaks this problem.

it's the point i'm trying to make, nothing to do with true melee.

true melee is the reason the caps are here and the reason so many good builds are crushed, but it's not about that.

[ashen warren]

Melee speed is only useful for trumelee