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pliant bone
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Someone suggested to change its name to be more fitting actually.

frail mantle
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So it is a meme suggestion?

broken bloom
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Pretty much

ruby cobalt
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And that nets you a warn.

broken bloom
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Oh

ruby cobalt
dense girder
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desert scourge

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Desert Scourge is supposed to be incredibly easy

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it's pre-EoC

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still easy as all hell

ruby cobalt
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And?

frail mantle
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You don’t need to share your entire experience so far

ruby cobalt
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Alright, replacing DS with Lorde if you're on death.

ivory matrix
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maybe youre just good hahayes

dense girder
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death mode isn't supposed to be bullet hell for every boss and impossible to beat

opal barn
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We had this exact same discussion yesterday

dense girder
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it means each boss is just much harder

opal barn
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The devs aren't changing Ks and Ds

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End of discussion

frail mantle
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if you wish for some of the bosses to be nerfed, state which ones, how they should be nerfed, and why you think they should be nerfed

dense girder
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if 1 = easy and 10 = impossible, then DS in death is 1x2 in difficulty

frail mantle
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Tl;dr from yesterday, Desert Scourge and King Slime won’t be buffed because their point is being relatively easy bosses that ease you into the game

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Now let us stop discussing this before the mods go sicko mode on us

dense girder
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Drh goes sicko mode

ashen warren
frail mantle
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^

opal barn
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Ehhh I said to stop discussing DS and KS, i didn't say to stop discussing in general

earnest raptor
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Coldflare Autobow
Post-Cryogen-and-Mechs ranged weapon
❔ : Rapidly shoots a fire or frost (depends on random) arrows, which have a tiny homing abilities. Fire arrows inflicts On Fire! for longer time, that frost arrows inflicts a Frostburn.
🛠 : Elluvium Bow + Molten Fury + Hallowed Repeater + 3 Essence of Cinder @ Mythril Anvil
why : Ranged extension of small frostflare weapon set. Also some upgrade of both elemental bows.

ashen warren
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Nice intrusion during a convo

ruby cobalt
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SG is anything but piss easy for "terrible first time" players.

wheat zenith
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I'm getting mindfucked by those emotes, is there a meta I missed?

ruby cobalt
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Yes, there's a meta of shoving retarded emotes into every fucking suggestion you see.

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Started by this man, and his legacy somehow ended up in Oddi's hands, where it became twice as retarded.

frail mantle
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Ice Cupid said that those emojis should be used to make suggestions easy to understand

ruby cobalt
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No.

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Instead remaining survivors buff up based on who died.

dense girder
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Those emotes are a good way to show stuff insteada "Why it should be added", etc.

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❔ = what it is, 🛠 how it's obtained, why why

ruby cobalt
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You know what's also a good emote to show your inability to type words?

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Because it sums up my emotions when I see it in suggestions.

dense girder
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It looks better than typing out "what it is" "how it's obtained" "why"

ruby cobalt
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Uh-huh.

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Modlist, here and now.

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And that's it.

frail mantle
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And you did it before WoF?

ruby cobalt
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And your calam version is?

frail mantle
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Literally 125 damage in death mode

ruby cobalt
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That doesn't tell me jack fucking shit.

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I've seen people with 1.2.4.205 claiming they had latest.

wheat zenith
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saying the exact version number is generally standard since outdated people also think they have the latest :^p
if they didn't, they wouldn't be on an outdated version

frail mantle
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How the fuck do you not notice 125 melee damage and Distorted from the core

ruby cobalt
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While fully buffed and in full facetank gear?

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Easily, it becomes 30.

frail mantle
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but Distorted

ashen warren
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Makes you float

frail mantle
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how do you not notice that you suddenly float in midair and can’t fall or fly any higher

ashen warren
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You still should have noticed it since it affects your mobility greatly

frail mantle
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^

wheat zenith
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that's besides the point though

ruby cobalt
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So alright, let's buff SG so you can only do him with full buffs, as it is apparently intended.

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Stimulants.

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Conveniently available right after Skeletron.

frail mantle
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By the way, which weapons did you use?

dense girder
frail mantle
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A fucking water bolt that took down Slime God with meteorite armor in 30 fucking seconds...in Death Mode?!

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that does not sound legit at all

dense girder
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TombomcbomboToday at 11:20
Slime god I spent 30 seconds trying to figure out what was hitting me and still won on my first try

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i think they mean this

frail mantle
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Yeah

dense girder
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that's just to find out

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not to win

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🗿

frail mantle
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but still, thinking Death Mode Slime God is easy with a Space Gun, Water Bolt and Meteorite Armor sounds pretty fishy to me tbh

earnest raptor
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I have answer.

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@ebon spire is god

frail mantle
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@tender obsidian Shadow Dodge already has a cooldown at 30 seconds

dense girder
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Luna Lionfish - Rare Pre-HM Ocean Enemy
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A rare mob with high health that can spawn in the ocean. Briefly inflicts venom when touched but does not pursue the player. On death, drops 0-5 stingers and, rarely vials of venom (1/75 chance?) and, very rarely (1/150 chance?), the Lionfish weapon.
why = As a new mob, it would be useful for farming as its rare spawn chance coupled with its extra-rare drops that are usually hard to get work as an alternative source of stingers (jungle dangerous) and the Lionfish (if, say, multiple people on a world want the Lionfish, or it just doesn't spawn at all due to a bug).

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thoughts?

frail mantle
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Yea platforms help

dense girder
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providab wyt

frail mantle
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But that gear is horribly underpowered for that part of the game

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Space gun isn’t that good when Abyss Weapons exist

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And Meteorite is :ech: when Aerialite exists

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Black Anurian?

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Also, remember that Calamity nerfs the Meteorite set bonus

ruby cobalt
frail mantle
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Not right now tbh

ruby cobalt
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You're not. Get out.

frail mantle
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ATM we’re just discussing how you found Slime God easy

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I’m just gonna leave before the Mods go sicko mode on me

quiet abyss
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Do remember that not everyone is on the same skill level.
Some people may think bosses in deathmode need buffs, but some others think they're fine as it is.
Some even think deathmode bosses need nerf

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Right now deathmode difficulty is fine as it is.
It's already challenging enough for the general population of the calamity players, and it doesn't need anymore buff

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No, deathmode is not for the general population.
It's meant for players who like challenges.
But just because it isn't, doesn't mean that deathmode bosses need buff.
Some players who like challenges do find deathmode difficulty either fine, or too hard even for them.

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And some may think it's a lil easy for "the hardest difficulty", but again, not everyone is on the same skill level

ashen warren
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Only DM balance problem imo is that tail-hunting DoG with rage/adrenaline makes it a 10 second P2 kill, for melee anyway.

quiet abyss
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You do realize that different people struggles with different bosses, yes?
You struggle on twins and not AS.
Some others may struggle on AS but not twins.

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Saying that the difficulty is inconsistent because you have troubles with different bosses than others due to differing playstyles is a rather weak argument.
That’s like saying a chef’s food is inconsistent in their flavor because one guy likes it and one doesnt
And yes, I’m aware of your last point of discussing this, no need to point it out

frail mantle
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The thing with it being night and day is that it might only be night and day for you

quiet abyss
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That’s not how playstyles and skill levels work.
The difficulty may seem so far apart like night and day, but if it’s not really inconsistent if it’s a different case for other people.

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And why do you keep pointing out “hence this discussion”?
We both already know, and the way you keep pointing it out make it seems like you think I’m forgetful or smth

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Just wondering

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And I never claim to accuse you of that

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No need to get defensive over a simple question my dude

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Perhaps, but the way you answer it...
...Nevermind, it won’t go anywhere.
Anyways, if you say I misunderstand your intention

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Then tell me your intention, loud and clear

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I’m listening

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That they feel that the difficulty seems inconsistent?

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Indeed there are

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If you're going to want opinions on those for your suggestion, you might wanna get ready for a long ride.
Things like this you can't just look at a few people's opinions and do it.
You gotta research and observe for quite a while to get accurate results.
Unless you have already done that, that is.

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If you're going to go ahead with your suggestions, best you can do is keep lurking/watching #calamity-mod-talk
Perhaps, keep asking different people at different times for their opinions and such (Though don't ask the question too frequently in a short amount of time)

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Do it for a few days or so, and take notes

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Considering how active #calamity-mod-talk can get at times, you might be able to get answers more quickly than you think, who knows.

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Anyways, if you ask me, I'd say most of the bosses in deathmode are fine rn, but that's just me.

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AS seems to be mixed bag from what I've seen about him.
Either players find him too difficult/annoying, or too easy.

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2 opposite ends of the spectrums.

radiant meadow
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Hive Mind is also similar

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Hive Mind has very predictable patterns and some people find the fight easy and enjoyable

quiet abyss
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Yet some people struggle with said predictable patterns and call him too hard

radiant meadow
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but it can also easily catch you off guard

frail mantle
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HM is my favorite boss tbh

quiet abyss
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^ What Termi said

frail mantle
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even no-hitting it was enjoyable imo

quiet abyss
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Glad ya like the boss

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I getcha: It has its flaws

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It's not close to perfect, and I'd have to be delusional to truly believe that.

frail mantle
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At least you’re not like some people who seem to hate Calamity just because it’s popular

quiet abyss
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Deathmode is a lil wonky in difficulty, that I can understand.
Deathmode originally was meant to be a silly "you get one-shot" mode, then it evolved into a new difficulty mode.
A not overly serious difficulty mode, though.

radiant meadow
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I'll admit that hive mind has one of the biggest rev -> death jumps

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rev feels lackluster in attacks to me ngl

quiet abyss
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Calamity mod's difficulty is more or less balanced around Rev, not so much Death, so Death's difficulty is a lil wonky in terms of difficulty spikes.

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Not really something that could be changed too much rn though, since Fabsol personally think Deathmode being a not-overly-serious mode as it is rn with wonky difficulty is fine

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But hey, opinions could change

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Not rn, but new bosses are indeed coming

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Draedon will be coming in 1.4.3 update

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Oh, and sorry for accusing you of being "defensive" earlier

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I wasn't really thinking when I said that

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Let's just call it both our faults, ye?

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Anyways, I hope you have a good day 👋

tender obsidian
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@frail mantle thanks for telling me, i'll change it up a bit

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im kinda surprised nobody's starred it yet

ashen warren
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It's cause it's already been nerfed

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Probably anyway

tender obsidian
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hm

dense girder
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Luna Lionfish - Rare Pre-HM Ocean Enemy
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A rare mob that can spawn in the ocean. Briefly inflicts venom when touched but does not pursue the player. On death, drops 0-5 stingers and, rarely vials of venom (1/75 chance?) and, very rarely (1/150 chance?), the Lionfish weapon.
why = As a new mob, it would be useful for farming as its rare spawn chance coupled with its extra-rare drops that are usually hard to get work as an alternative source of stingers (jungle dangerous) and the Lionfish (if, say, multiple people on a world want the Lionfish, or it just doesn't spawn at all due to a bug).

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what y'all think x2

ashen warren
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Titanium armor's Shadow Dodge set bonus lasts 6 seconds instead of 30 In revengeance plus

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Also shouldn't it be called Lunar Lionfish instead?

dense girder
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no

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it's a real creature called the luna lionfish

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lunar lionfish doesn't make any sense unless it's a post-ml enemy or celestial event enemy

tender obsidian
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loofed

dense girder
tender obsidian
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ye sounds lit

pliant bone
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@dense girder
Yeah dont turn an abyss-tier weapon into a pre-boss weapon.

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Even despite the low drop rate and the low spawn rate of the enemy

dense girder
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Rare enemy with a 1/150 drop rate and you can't Zerg to spawn it

pliant bone
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Even so, that means that an abyss tier weapon gets downgraded to a pre-boss weapon despite the riduculous odds.

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Also, making an enemy unaffected by boosted spawn rates seems probably hard to do.

ashen warren
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While i agree louis, the halibut cannon is a thing.

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Also does anyone know what species of lionfish the weapon is based on?

frail mantle
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By the way, does the Staff of Shadows seem ok?

dense girder
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No as in

ashen warren
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Does anyone else think its odd that iou an item can be crafted into an item post plant, but the items themselves drop the instant hardmode starts?

dense girder
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Zerg is post-skeletron

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By the time you could zerg to get this item you can just go into the abyss with a shadow key

ashen warren
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Essence maybe?

dense girder
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@pliant bone

ashen warren
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Zerg is hm lol

dense girder
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It's alchemy table though

pliant bone
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Battle pots still exist

dense girder
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battle pots do pretty much jack shit in comparison

ashen warren
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Ah feken blood orbs

pliant bone
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But they help anyway

dense girder
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Mildly

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Say it's a 5% chance of spawning and it has a 0.67% chance of dropping the lionfish

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That's about a 0.000335% chance of getting it

pliant bone
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That is not how you do probability im assuming

ashen warren
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Defiled rune and Zerg tho

dense girder
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Spawns 5% of the time

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Of that 5%, it only drops it 0.67% of the time

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0.67% of 5%

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Zerg is post-skele that's what I just said timer omg

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y'all are wild

ashen warren
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Ah, but defiled would almost definitely play a factor with these odds

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Unless one of you decides to go to the abyss smh

dense girder
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2% of 5% is still 0.001%

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5% is just an estimate spawn rate though

frail mantle
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At that point it would be pointless to even try farming for the Lionfish from them, when you can simply go to the dungeon, find a shadow key and find it without farming

dense girder
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Of the time it can spawn

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As in, 5% spawn rate

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i'VE GOT a fucker here trying to iukbjm,k.

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INTERFERE WITGH=]

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58

pliant bone
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If defiled
So basically 10x rarer than the halibut then?

ashen warren
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Worth it

pliant bone
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Inb4, people be cheating in Lionfish because it is technically pre-bosses tier

ashen warren
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Nah jk, it'd be better to make it craftable

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So, bones?

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Yeah

pliant bone
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Yep

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But why make Lionfish craftable after skele when abyss weapons are post-skele.

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Prob be pointless to craft it and you have to make a reason to why only the lionfish gets this treatment unlike the other abyss weaps

ashen warren
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Not just lionfish oof

pliant bone
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Though what Abyss material would you even get in prehm

ashen warren
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Abyss stone

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Maybe some fishing?

frail mantle
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About that Luna Lionfish suggestion, what if we just suggest a respective fish/animal for all of the pre-Hardmode abyss weapons and they begin dropping them post-Smelly Skelly Hed 1?

ashen warren
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Too many fishes tbh

dense girder
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I'm still at school and I had a friend next to me going sicko mode sorry

pliant bone
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There can never be too much fish in the abyss

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Infact, the amount of variety in the 4th layer abyss is very lacking

dense girder
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You've got:

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worm 1, worm 2, robe man, big shark

ashen warren
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4th layer SignusSweating

frail mantle
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and squiddo

dense girder
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main problem with the abyss is how shitty its generation is smh

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it's just a single line rather than caverns

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I think there's also an inherent problem with the creatures themselves

pliant bone
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I mean what do you expect the Mariana trench to be?
A big cavern?

dense girder
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When you get powerful enough you could easily destroy reaper sharks, worms, etc.

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They should be hard to kill even at the very end-game

lost agate
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Why?

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Theyre post polter not endgame

frail mantle
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Well...they’re minibosses

dense girder
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That's part of what made Subnautica so good: killing the leviathans is near-impossible, it creates an atmosphere of real fear, and you're supposed to be scared in the Abyss

pliant bone
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Thats basically giving them adult eidolymn wyrm powers

frail mantle
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minibosses are a challenge, but not full on roadblocks

ruby cobalt
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...near impossible?

dense girder
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Yeah you only got a knife and a stasis rifle

ruby cobalt
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Alright, so let's ignore the prawn.

dense girder
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If not near impossible then tedious

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this isn't a subnautica discussion let's not delve there

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anyways

ruby cobalt
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2 whopping minutes to drill a levi, pretty shitty point to bring up, don't you think?

pliant bone
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Besides, the minibosses drop pretty essential materials

dense girder
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fair enough

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i get it

ruby cobalt
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But yeah, worldgen is somewhat lacking.

dense girder
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moVING ON

lost agate
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And imagine them being stronger, you go down abyss and you get ganged with a lot of them, youre basically dead

dense girder
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so how do you guys then think i could improve the lionfish

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creating one fish for each abyss item?

lost agate
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Isnt lionfish like absurdly strong already?

pliant bone
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Increase the chance for it to be dropped but make it Post-Skletron exclusive and do the same with the other feesh

frail mantle
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they can be easy if you take them on one by one, but just like other mini bosses, they become a challenge when you meet more than one

ruby cobalt
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Alright, so hypothetically you move out weapons from chests to enemies.

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What fills chests then?

dense girder
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what

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that's not the point of my suggestion???? at all??????????//

ashen warren
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Halibut cannons

ruby cobalt
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Nah, I'm telling you to keep it in mind.

dense girder
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it's a rare fish with a very rare chance of dropping the lionfish that's it

lost agate
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@frail mantle and how are you supposed to prevent fighting more than one???

ashen warren
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In case of gey worldgen

pliant bone
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Whats the point of making the lionfish rarer than the Halibut cannon pre-skeletron.

ashen warren
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^

dense girder
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Alongside a whole shitload of other stuff to increase the atmosphere and stuff

frail mantle
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My point was that you don’t need to buff the Abyss minibosses since they’re minibosses, not something that people will struggle with endgame

dense girder
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Would be harder to code but a lot more fun to explore

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lot of typing not a lot of messages HDfailure

ashen warren
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Inb4 the bottom layer gets sealed shut most of the time

frail mantle
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also, one of their challenges (that also make them more interesting) is that you might have to fight more than one at a time

dense girder
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gtg back later

lost agate
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Well, if you ask me, i had fun exploring the abyss

frail mantle
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Me too

ashen warren
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Had

frail mantle
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which is why i think the minibosses are fine as they are

lost agate
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Yes i had because the fucking last run i did was like 6 months ago

fossil torrent
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what is this shit

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pre-boss lionfish? Henkhenk

lost agate
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Halibut but its rogue yes

ashen warren
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I suggested post skele crafting in case of bad worldgen

frail mantle
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Anyways, i agree with what Louis said

ruby cobalt
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Previously you could fish them up.

ashen warren
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Fishing ew

frail mantle
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make the Luna Lionfish drop the Lionfish post-skelly only, but with a higher drop chance

pliant bone
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Photosynthetic Slimes
A post-mech underground Jungle enemy

Description:

  • Spawns after all 3 mechanical bosses, Clonemitas or Plantera are defeated
  • Drops 15-25 Chlorophyte ore upon death.

Reason:
Chlorophyte bars are pretty expensive to craft and it usually tends to make some players stray away from crafting Chlorophyte and Chlorophyte related gear.

fossil torrent
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yeah what is wrong with post-skelly only

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at least make it drop it at a very low chance post-EoW or post-Hive and the droprate increasing by a lot post-Skele

frail mantle
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^

pliant bone
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Any suggestions and criticisms to my suggestion?

frail mantle
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Looks good

ashen warren
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Would defeat the point of chloro farming

pliant bone
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Who got time for chloro farming

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Yeah if you spent a truckload of time doing the mech bosses

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Though the same can be said for Perennial Ore

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There are tons of Perennial Ore around yet there are Perennial slimes

ashen warren
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Perennial doesn't regenerate HDfailure

pliant bone
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Yet they have a limit per area of blocks.
Impractical too to go excavate a massive area just for reproducing Chlorophyte.

sonic quest
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Perennial doesnt need to regenerate given the stupid amount of it exists

pliant bone
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Exactly

mental path
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how about the luna lionfish drops a consumable version of the lionfish with less damage when you hit it with a bug net/kill it

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and the lionfish with a lower chance after skelly boi

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or just make them not spawn until skele is ded

fossil torrent
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I don't recommend straight up reposting stuff without changes

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you even failed the emotes

alpine copper
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Uh

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?

fossil torrent
alpine copper
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I actually changed the name, the tooltip and the debuffs

ashen warren
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Nice

alpine copper
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And the emotes look normal to me

ashen warren
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No?

alpine copper
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I mean i can see them

ashen warren
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And no one else can

fossil torrent
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you did not change the name at all, no change in the tooltip and no changes in the debuffs

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literally 0 changes

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But you do you I guess

alpine copper
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That suggestion is quite old

pliant bone
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How old.

untold gulch
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just do :musical_note:

alpine copper
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You cant know that

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Dates january 24

fossil torrent
untold gulch
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all he really did was shorten the debuff explanations and make the music notes not emojies

alpine copper
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I see your point the changes are small af but still i just wanted to repost something

fossil torrent
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yeah i'm not trying to prevent you, just pointing out how pointless it is

untold gulch
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turn the "musical_note" text into emojies and i'll give you a star

fossil torrent
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he did

untold gulch
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gud

alpine copper
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Why pointless?

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I have seen some repos get through the in the second round

ashen warren
fossil torrent
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but wait there's more

lost agate
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This isnt even my final form

sleek wadi
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The Luna Lionfish suggestion would make Vials of Venom pre-boss which would make Flasks of Venom pre-plant, making True Tyrant's Ultisword post-mechs. Quality item drops HDfailure

fossil torrent
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yeah the flask of venom drop should probably be post plant

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had to kill the stars because I improved the dragon claw sprite sad

hollow shell
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Try not to send that many suggestions in a row please @fossil torrent

fossil torrent
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3 is too many? even if they're really related?

ruby cobalt
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That's when you make a doc and cry in a corner because nobody reads it.

fossil torrent
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wh

night cradle
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there is already a guide voodoo doll crafting recipe

ashen warren
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Blood orbs and cloth I think

night cradle
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not cloth, leather
5x leather and 10x blood orbs

lost agate
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@elder estuary that already exists

sonic quest
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while there already is a recipe, it can be difficult to get 10 blood orbs in a speed run early on. maybe a recipe change is due?

lost agate
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Or just save your blood orbs instead of using them

sonic quest
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that's not the issue tho?

dense girder
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Make Zerg negate the drop rate-boosting effects of Defiled Rune.

mental path
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yeah but blood moon is pure rng on pre-hardmode and there's no time for grinding blood orbs in a speedrun

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1 in 9 chance of happening every 24 minutes

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I'd put demonic bone ash instead of blood orbs tbf

lost agate
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Yeah but u see, if we dont balance around nohitting why should we balance around speedruns?

mental path
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I don't see your point

ashen warren
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I mean currently the recipe doesn't even include any underworld items

mental path
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^

lost agate
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I mean that we dont balance around optional challenges

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Speedrunning being one of them

sonic quest
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ignoring that, who would save 10 blood orbs to make a voodoo doll? has nobody ever questioned this recipe

mental path
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I have multiple times

elder estuary
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@lost agate Like I see what you're saying and I would agree if there was another non-completely rng dependent way to get them like vanilla has plants to craft potions

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and I would also agree if it was optional content, i.e. not WoF that locks out hardmode

lost agate
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Thats.... Not what i mean

elder estuary
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Your point was "we don't do any balancing around 'personal restrictions' "

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i'm saying that the blood orb recipe is rng dependent on a blood moon or normal spawn a voodoo demon

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it would be nice to have an alternative that can be virtually guaranteed to happen after a reasonable amount of kills or exploration

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instead of merely time + luck

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BECAUSE it's wof

lost agate
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But you see, vodoo is a type of black magic and blood orb are used for potions so thats the relation at least

elder estuary
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I see the connection but I feel like that's tenuous at best

mental path
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Also blood in a doll sounds messed up tbh

dense girder
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Ok ok let's calm down for a second I have an idea

elder estuary
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^

dense girder
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I'm not entirely sure if it's been thought of yet but

elder estuary
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nobody's not calm, it's a discussion

rapid pivot
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Blood.. in a doll.. used to summon a giant wall of flesh and blood?

lost agate
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So vodoo isnt messed up but blood is?

dense girder
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Crafting recipe for Blood Orbs: Murky Sludge + Demonic Bone Ash = 5/10 Blood Orbs?

elder estuary
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("real") voodoo usually involves hair or sentimental objects, not blood

ruby lintel
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hair confirmed for next update

elder estuary
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^ killing guide drops hair to make doll with cloth readygo

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jokes aside i thought abou that at first but, while reliable, a bit out of the way to get potentially

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since you'd have to lava him

mental path
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lava him then lava his voodoo doll

elder estuary
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not that getting lava is hard or anything

rapid pivot
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Uh.. real voodoo, to my knowledge, involves a part of the person. Hairs just convenient.

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Blood would work.

mental path
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but that blood isnt of the guide

ruby lintel
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guide juice

mental path
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unless he's a descendant of a zombie

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or he's been bit

elder estuary
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well at any rate specifics of implementation aside and lore relations, a more accessible recipe would be nice; since again it's locked behind pure rng at the moment and in turn locks out hardmode

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regardless of speed run considerations

ashen warren
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So the guide voodoo doll has a recipe, why not the clothier doll?

mental path
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because the clothier doll isnt consumable

elder estuary
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^

dense girder
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do you are happy now

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😠

elder estuary
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also, skele isn't behind rng

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u just go talk to the guy at dungeon

mental path
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If you want to refight him its probably only for his book of skulls which is a bad weapon smh

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or theres a modded item from another mod that he drops

dense girder
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whytho daryl

elder estuary
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I think that's way too cheap

sonic quest
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blood orbs should remain exclusive to blood moon imo

dense girder
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2 demonic bone ash

sonic quest
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but the voodoo doll's recipe should be modified

elder estuary
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both of those materials are very easy to farm compared to the impact of some of the potions you can craft

dense girder
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4 sludge, 4 ash?

mental path
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Just make a small plant farm for potions SmugBrimmy

elder estuary
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^

mystic glade
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there is such thing as the summoning item for blood moons

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many mods have one

elder estuary
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? ok

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how does this help a calamity only run

dense girder
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but does this one?

elder estuary
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calamity's one is hard mode isn't it ?

dense girder
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well it does but

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hard to get

elder estuary
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hm anvil

dense girder
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^

cyan lagoon
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I don't think it should be crafted at a bottle

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only should be at an alchemy table

elder estuary
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well the blood orb recipes are at alchemy table anyway

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except guide voodoo doll

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which was the point i believe

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leather + blood orb + hellforge

mental path
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Calamity's blood moon summoning item is post-mechs iirc
edit: just checked and it is

mystic glade
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but what do you need blood orbs before that other than zergs

elder estuary
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@mystic glade this discussion started about ways to get a guide voodoo doll without voodoo-demon rng or pre-hm blood moon rng

mental path
elder estuary
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that was just an example, he spent 40 minutes trying to get one voodoo to spawn

dense girder
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goodbye suggestion

mental path
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he didnt get a voodoo demon to spawn for 30+ minutes

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goodbye ice cupid's suggestion

dense girder
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:mgsalute:

ashen warren
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@elder estuary there's already a recipe for the doll

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Exactly

elder estuary
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@ashen warren that is locked behind rng bloodmoon or rng voodoo demons or post-mechs

ashen warren
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5 leather and 10 blood orbs

elder estuary
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blood moon spawner is behind mechanical bosses

ashen warren
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speedruns

elder estuary
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one use case, still a complete rng problem

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still totally possible to be locked out of hard mode 100% until you rng into a voodoo demon or blood moon; posted a 40 minute sit-there-and-wait example

sonic quest
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might wanna modify ur suggestion

fossil torrent
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Yeah it says "add" not "change the recipe"

sonic quest
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^

elder estuary
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yes

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that was my intent

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I think the blood orb recipe is a fine time saver like the other blood orb recipes

dim kestrel
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Voodoo demons seem to be all about that RNG

elder estuary
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and I think adding it outright to the dryad has issues since it spawns a buttload of ore each kill

dim kestrel
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cause for me they plague the land

elder estuary
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something like cloth + a piece of hair from killing the guide / etc would be a good addition

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and make sense for the leather+blood (orb) alternative

fossil torrent
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But change your suggestion to say "change the recipe" then

elder estuary
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I think leaving the extant recipe in is fine

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I'm not suggesting to change it; but to add a second recipe with earlier accessible materials

mental path
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Oh man can't wait to see how many people will say "but it already has a recipe"

elder estuary
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I guess but that's up to the devs whether to keep or change the existing one

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my suggestion is just one accessible pre-mechs/wof that isn't able to completely rng-lock you out of hm

fossil torrent
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Make it say "add another recipe" then

dim kestrel
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|zerg potions|

mental path
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Add more details to the suggestion

elder estuary
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ok I changed it

dim kestrel
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This seems to be a normal/expert issue to me, cause revengeance spawn rates are much more manageable

elder estuary
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^ agreed

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still, being able to reliably spawn a WoF pre-mechs would be nice

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I only ever play expert with all the tokens (minus armageddon) on so this issue isn't' super common for me personally

dim kestrel
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90% of the time the issue is spawning the guide, not getting dolls for me

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I always end up with 8 of them while I'm simply building the hellevator

fossil torrent
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Nice, starred

elder estuary
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👍 thanks for your input

west prairie
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i was there for that stream, it was ridiculous

gusty geode
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If I could add to this, maybe just increase the spawnrate of Voodoo Demons?
They're already reasonably common, but if it' such a big deal just make them moreso

ashen warren
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How about instead of pure rng, make a voodoo demon spawn polterghast style, lets say after every 20 normal demon deaths

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Hectique memes I see

agile cloud
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Why make them autoswing when you can just make the use speed faster?

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And even add autoswing on top of that

radiant meadow
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because then you still have to rapidly click

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use speed is fine

agile cloud
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The thing i find annoying is the slow use speed

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Autoswing would be nice, but faster speed would be nicer imo

ashen warren
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Did someone actually call calamity "mod pack"

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That voodoo demon rng is my normal pain

frosty kindle
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and am i the only one that gets voodoo dolls normally???

ashen warren
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I always have luiafk so I can bloody voodoo doll a blood moon, full support for that suggestion.

dusty stirrup
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probably because rng likes you, fish

frosty kindle
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that explains literally everything

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i just wanted to hone my skills, game!

ashen warren
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Wait why not just make the defiled rune give normal demons a 5 percent chance to drop the doll

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I guess it's all fair because I always get community on first levi kill.

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That works if defiled is all modes

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Which it isn't iirc

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"Can only be used in revengeance and death mode" yup

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All the people saying zerg when zerg is post-WoF or.. blood moon

ashen warren
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should they add coral reefs to the normal ocean

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so its not so boring

pliant bone
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Inb4, it somehow breaks conpatibility to one of Thorium's biomes

ashen warren
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on the surface of the ocean floor not the aquatic depths

fiery jewel
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Hi This is kind of petty but I had just defeated the Eye of Cthulhu and was going to the dungeon when i was attacked by a pit bull. Normally i wouldst care it is just a game but i thought about how pit bulls are generally stereotyped as beasts and vicious animals. I can see them being called pit bulls as in a demonic way, ya know "pit" and what not, and I'm pretty sure its unintentional but them attacking the player is kind of propagating the stereotype. A while back and still currently there are movements to euthanize any pit bull without discretion and I just think that it puts off a bad image about them in general. I have spent time with many at my local dog shelter and although im not demanding and love the game either way i kind of would like for the name to be changed. Im sort of making a mountain out of a molehill, but i have some suggestions for any renaming.

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like Black Dog from the european ghost stories, or chupacabra, or coyote, or anything else like that ya know

jovial spire
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This...

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Thats a joke right

hollow shell
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I can see how that'd be a bit hurtful to see if you're really connected with dogs
but I do think you're making a bit of a big deal out of a small thing

radiant meadow
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I mean, they do make a point

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but ye, it is quite small

hollow shell
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Lot of people don't even know the Pitbull enemy exists

radiant meadow
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although renaming an enemy isn't something out of the question

jovial spire
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Well yeah bit its just an enemy in a mod that most people froget exist

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The enemy not the mod

radiant meadow
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I remembered they existed 🤷

hollow shell
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If you could
make your argument a lot more concise
then sure you can post it as a suggestion, Saucy

jovial spire
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I frogot they existed

radiant meadow
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I was going to use b3's dot suggestion but I guess dots are a little more well known despite being tied to rev+daryl

ashen warren
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wtf

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what did i just read?

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"wouldst"

reef escarp
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Just name it zombie dog

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It is a easy fix

sinful violet
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Only thing I have to say is that sharks have a bad rep in a bunch of places as is, and definitely need more protection than dogs do, yet no one's done anything about that.

reef escarp
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Oh yeah poor sharks

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Just make them killer whales

sinful violet
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that's worse you nut

ashen warren
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Orca* smh

reef escarp
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They kill sharks

jovial spire
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Call them Danger Fish

ashen warren
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you right sharks do need more protection

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So do all dolphins

torn creek
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or Dog Zombie

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totally not a reference ot Rob Zombie, a movie guy

jovial spire
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Zog Dombie

reef escarp
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I'll just like to put a orca on land and plug its blowhole

ashen warren
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but dolphins have almost never atacked people before

sinful violet
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alright alright, i was joking, neither thing is really that important can we not

reef escarp
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That is how they kill sharks

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Orcas are assholes

sinful violet
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can we not

reef escarp
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Sorry I'll stop

ashen warren
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and they have eaten a person at sea world too

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and ill stop

reef escarp
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They have eaten more than one person

ashen warren
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like 4 i think

reef escarp
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Now I'll stop

ashen warren
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Would an accessory that docks summon damage based on how many summons there are but also grants more summons sound interesting?

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While it'd probably wreak havoc on the mechworm, an accessory that increased my chances of letting the brainlet AI of summons actually hit their target would be nice to have as a crutch.

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mechworm caps out at 10 segments btw, it doesn't get stronger after that

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I'm worried more about damage reduction w/o any benefit

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then people would just not use the accessory at that point in the game

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Where would it be the most useful?

teal ibex
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oops i missed the conversation earlier about the voodoo recipe, i know it's passed by for a while but i do think it's worth mentioning that the summon as is seems to lack differentiating purpose. voodoo demons are effectively just waiting for rng and blood moons similarly are just waiting for rng, so the crafting recipe seems to be just redirecting the same effort in a different direction which feels a bit purposeless until you've already pushed into hardmode and can produce blood moons yourself, along with zerg potions. just my two cents tho, i'm sure some people find it appropriate as is. 3c

ashen warren
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probably hm, phm would be a tad too strong imo

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oh god calamitamini army

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early hm is where summoner struggles a fair deal, mid hm somewhat, and late hm it does fine

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not taking into account ooa bugs for sentries ofc CompleteFailure

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sentries, not minions

fiery jewel
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hey i made the pitbull post earlier im really not trying to make it a big deal just a suggestion as the chat entails lol

radiant meadow
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@austere token You're going to have to say more than just "Cool and Awesome Stuff"
Say specifically what you want and why

austere token
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The whole mod is amazing i can't think of any thing other than cool and awesome stuff.

dusty stirrup
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wh

sinful violet
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thank you, but it ain't the place for stuff like that

austere token
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Maybe a higher summoning cap? I Usually have to multie calss if i want to use the summoning stuff in the end game

sinful violet
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Sure, give it some though and check the pins

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I'm gonna delete the message for now

austere token
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alright

ashen warren
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a higher summon cap would also affect pure summoners, and they're pretty strong end game atm daryl

reef mountain
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any ideas?

frail mantle
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yea that's fair tbh

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Mirror Blade is one of those weapons that i see once and is like "o yeah that thing exists" and then forgets it exists

brazen wedge
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yes

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dialouge

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:hellyes:

reef mountain
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it feels like it's worse than the heavily nerfed steller striker.

radiant meadow
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@tame moss I think it would look cleaner if you removed the 👏 emotes and instead state how she's a prominent boss in the Calamity lore.

tame moss
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fair enough

gusty geode
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"You impudent little insect! You dare lay your corrupt fingers on my core?! You shall pay for your heresy with your life!"
Shitty Prov dialogue idea

frail mantle
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that ain't shitty, that sounds fitting for ol' Prov tbh

radiant meadow
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ye, the reasoning sounds better now

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now I sleep

hollow shell
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gnight 👋

reef mountain
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good idea, though it's not clear whether it can speak, considering she's basically fire, but good idea neverthless.

hollow shell
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I do like the fact that she's currently unspeaking.

gusty geode
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Hunted mode got more than enough stars but it got buried before it could be checked suffering

hollow shell
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That's not how it works.

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I (in)frequently scroll back like the past week and see if anything breached 65

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and deliver the ones that do

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I delivered a bunch earlier but stopped halfway through cuz I should actually be asleep right now

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gnight

gusty geode
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It's fine, I can wait another day

ashen warren
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i'd like to see some providence battle dialogue

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it would make sense, seeing as though she's a goddess

fossil torrent
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It probably won’t happen, if they wanted it in the game it would probably have happened already seeing as all other major post-ML bosses has dialogue of some kind.

ashen warren
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you have a point pain

dense girder
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oh for fucks sakes

ruby cobalt
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@drowsy elm yo

dense girder
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stop talking there you bums LUL

fossil torrent
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Read the pins and channel descriptions in the channels before posting, you can't chat in #suggestions-voting

eager palm
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@drowsy elm warned B)

ruby cobalt
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smh

ashen warren
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Did you just m i n i m o d slobbyjoy

dense girder
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delete his message tho

ruby cobalt
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should've given him time to respond

reef escarp
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It is gone

ruby cobalt
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I deleted it, ye

reef escarp
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Good job drh

eager palm
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i was gonna delet it anyway smhmshm

dense girder
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so

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now that i've garnered an audience

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suggestion thoughts? HDfailure

topaz bramble
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@dense girder Fuck

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I deleted the message

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right after

ruby cobalt
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ye, you had a brain to do that and avoid warning

topaz bramble
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Sorry lol

ruby cobalt
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also there's no need to call out brains that are taking there in the same channel

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you can just tag them here, or just straight up tag a mod

dense girder
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eh fe

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i saw your name in #general-talk after that and my instincts kicked in

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for i am a bastion of justice

topaz bramble
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You're right tho, that was a pretty bruh moment

eager palm
fossil torrent
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wtf my messages didn't send?

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oddi pre-boss hm weapon? we already got hell burst HDfailure

dense girder
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damn my neural block didn't last

fossil torrent
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maybe put it post aquascourge somehow?

dense girder
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way too shitty of a weapon to be post aqua wtf

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this is a low-tier bridge hm weapon

fossil torrent
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hellburst's already in the exact same spot though, having two vilethorn weapons in the exact same place in progression seems counterintuitive

dense girder
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i gotta go but

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didn't know hell burst was a vilethorn type

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ill work it later

frail mantle
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Also Coral Spout isn’t useless

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have you seen it against DS, EoW and the Perforator Worms HDfailure

topaz bramble
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So... Does anyone actually listen to suggestions?

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Like, how much of the stuff there gets used?

ashen warren
ruby cobalt
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they get sent into dev server and then die there

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some get implemented, most don't

dense girder
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alright i'm at school now but

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like i said, coral rush would be a bridge weapon

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still working on its later editions™

alpine copper
quiet abyss
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The suggestions just sit there in dev server.
Every now and then a dev or two might dig into the pile and like a suggestion or two which will increase its chance of getting in considerably, especially if someone on the dev team currently is free and is willing to code/sprite for it.

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This ofc means that only a select few suggestions actually get implemented, but suggestions are not our main priority, atleast right now.

dense girder
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ok i got an idea for you devs

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make every suggestion into a tinder profile

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make all the devs vote on it using tinder

quiet abyss
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Considering the over hundreds of suggestions

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No slobbyjoy

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Again, suggestions are low priority and the system we have at the dev server is fine rn.
It might get improve or smth if there’s ever a point where devs can focus more on suggestions, but rn it’s pretty fine.

fossil torrent
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When the mod gets to a point when it's "finished", when all the bosses and such are done, suggestions will maybe get a higher priority, which would be really cool

dense girder
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honestly i want to learn C# so i can make my own mods

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because i have so many mod ideas

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but coding is ass-hard and i can't sprite HDfailure

fossil torrent
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I have a lot of ideas too, i can kinda sprite, and I want to learn c#

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Maybe some time in the future who knows

dense girder
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my ideas are mainly most of the suggestions i've come up with so far, a huge mod that would be community suggestion-based

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and of course

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a jojo mod

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because fuck you

ashen warren
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#offtopic :P

dense girder
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#mingimos

sleek wigeon
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mimigas.

dense girder
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miigasm

ruby cobalt
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get-out-asm

dense girder
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my favorite jordan peele movie

earnest raptor
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@sleek wigeon reeeeee

sleek wigeon
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what?

earnest raptor
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Mimigas.

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I'm Cave Story modder, sorry.

sleek wigeon
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Why are you reeeeing though?

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cave story is a great hecking game

ashen warren
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Frost Firearm
Hardmode version of the meteor fists.
Left click fires 2 high velocity fists, just like the meteor fist. They explode into ice, dealing melee damage.
Right click instead shoots 2 icicles, dealing ranged damage.
Neither projectile inflicts a debuff, instead dealing increased damage to enemies affliced with frostburn.
Crafted with 2 frost cores and adamantium/titanium.
This would synergise well with the frost armor, whose setbonus is normally a rather weak +8 damage a second.
Its best prefix would be godly.

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Looks good. no you didn't see a gasm emote

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Will this still inflict On Fire to enemies?

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I don't think it should, considering an ice weapon inflicting on fire and not frostburn is a little weird

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I see, understood.

tender obsidian
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so many peopel are requesting meteor fist upgrades...?!

ashen warren
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This is the first one I've seen in quite a while, there was one yesterday but other than that the other meteor fist suggestions are pretty old.

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What about a weapon that inflicts On Fire, Frostburn, Shadowflame, Cursed Flames and oiled?

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Would still probably be worse than the lionfishes venom debuff

pliant bone
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Tbh, a couple of things are immune to venom

ashen warren
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Ichor stickers are immune to venom, but not ichor

radiant meadow
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@frail mantle they are buffed post ML daryl

frail mantle
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Ignore that part then

frail mantle
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“there is a mod that fixes that” isn’t a good argument daryl

sonic quest
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The meteor fist is a great weapon and id love to see it get an upgrade even if its just in numbers

hollow shell
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@frail mantle I assume that crafts 20 Phantoplasm?

frail mantle
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ofuk one moment

hollow shell
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I like the suggestion btw
considering Ectoplasm is more obtainable than Phanto due to Ectoblood, thisd help to balance it out

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Considering Phantoplasm is used in so many recipes

tender obsidian
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so we got ectoblood

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add phantoblood

dense girder
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phectoboob

ashen warren
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Phantomblood

dense girder
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JOOOOOOOOOJO

ashen warren
alpine copper
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My lore channel suggestion have 71 stars and still has the exclamation sign reaction

ruby cobalt
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We came to a conclusion on that one.

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Lore talk gets yeeted the fuck out to literature server.

opal barn
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Finally :hellyes:

alpine copper
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Nani the fuck?

opal barn
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The same way we redirect spriting into the art server

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makes sense

ruby cobalt
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Be careful with what you ask for HyperFailure

alpine copper
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Were do i find the literature server then?

ruby cobalt
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Somewhere in art.

opal barn
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in other discord of art yeah

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I think it's called Printworks

alpine copper
ruby cobalt
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Nope.

ashen warren
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should there be a mechworm like staff that drops from the aquatic scourge

hollow shell
fossil torrent
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(click it)

frail mantle
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you've already suggested that a month ago, Calamitas

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i mean, if you change it up a bit and refine the suggestion it might be okay

ashen warren
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@worldly jay read the rules please

dense girder
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we already have 18 worm bosses

worldly jay
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ok

eager palm
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:)

worldly jay
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And...how about a resprite that I made using Paint, where can I show it?

dense girder
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...honest advice: i would post it here first

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for your own safety, people will probably ridicule you because a lot of suggestions lately have super high-quality pixel art

worldly jay
frail mantle
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Was it a boss suggestion daryl

eager palm
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:)

dense girder
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Boss suggestions are banned

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Rob don't be a dick smh

eager palm
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:(

worldly jay
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it was first, but then they suggested reading the rules first, so sorry for the first one

dusty stirrup
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This is epic

ashen warren
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My current suggestion getting that many stars is proof that a sprite no matter how terrible increases the chance of them

dense girder
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mine has no sprite and more than yours HDfailure

ashen warren
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Compare mine to the one i made ages ago

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Frostfirearm
Crafted from the same materials from the frost armor
it is a fusion between a melee and ranged weapon
Its primary attack is a fast melee punch from a gauntlet. It fires rapidly close range like the blade glove, but only straight forward like a spear.
Right clicking instead fires out icicles at a rate of about 3 a second, it does not consume any ammo.
Both forms of the weapon gain a damage bonus against enemies immune to frostburn similar to frostspark bullets but with frostburn instead of glacial state
Both forms gain a much bigger damage bonus with a small crit chance increase against enemies affected by frostburn
Neither form actually inflicts frostburn, so you must really on other weapons or the setbonus of the frost armor for this damage bonus.

dense girder
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that formatting

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is, quite frankly, garbage

ashen warren
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Not exactly the same

dense girder
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the better your suggestions looks, more likely it is to get stars

sinful violet
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Better than silly emotes HDhurdur

dense girder
#

SILLY EMOTES

sinful violet
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yes

dense girder
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The egyptians got on just fucking fine with emotes for a few thousand years I beg your pardon

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Same width, different info, looks colorful

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I am the CHAD of suggestions

sinful violet
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What happened to the good old bold and underlined format

eager palm
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🤠

sinful violet
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No you're the virgin emote spammer.

dense girder
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I still do that in my titles wtf

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The virgin mrrp vs the thad odditer

sinful violet
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thad

dense girder
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yes, thad, it's a supreme chad, google it

ruby cobalt
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So, garbage?

dense girder
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thank

agile cloud
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this is a suggestion: Have a template for suggestions that shows how to actually make it look decent,

Name

What it does

why

ruby cobalt
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Too bad there's a fucking template already.

agile cloud
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Yep, Doesnt show how to format it well though, People are just writing lines of text instead of seperated descriptions/names

ruby cobalt
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And yours does it better?

lost agate
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And thats the template's fault?

agile cloud
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The template shows how to write it

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Not how to make it easier to read

lost agate
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.....

agile cloud
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ok its early in the morning so give me a break

ruby cobalt
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If you've not yet grasped the concept of making line breaks - you can always ask somewhere else or get bashed by someone in here.

agile cloud
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Fair

dense girder
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Here's a better template:
Name

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That's it, just the name HDfailure

ruby cobalt
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Here's a better fucking template in that case:

agile cloud
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I was going to post one of my old suggestions that followed a really good template

dense girder
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IMO the template I use looks the best

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It's clear, organized and it looks good

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Instead of being a block of lame ass text

ruby cobalt
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Ditch the garbage emotes and we're cool.

dense girder
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They're part of why it's good you dunce

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Why are the emotes bad

ashen warren
agile cloud
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What i use is more like this:

dense girder
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❔, 🛠, why

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The entire thing explained in 3 simple emotes

ruby cobalt
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🖐 🐲 🖌 🙏
why 🐲 👏 ❄ 👏 🔥 👏

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Convey that to a message.

agile cloud
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Example

Item 1 description

item 2 description

why example

dense girder
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I can't because it makes no fucking sense you picked a bunch of random emotes

agile cloud
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Cause i never suggest 1 item at a time

ruby cobalt
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resprite yharon pls
yharon very kool n hot

agile cloud
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wh

ruby cobalt
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This is why I fucking hate emotes.

dense girder
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oh

ashen warren
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Actually that makes sense

dense girder
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You're using a completely wrong example though

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I'm not using 🐉 🖌 🥚 🌋

ruby cobalt
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That's what this shit is gonna evolve to.

agile cloud
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Fuck emotes

dense girder
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Not if you tell people to stick to a fucking format

ruby cobalt
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And you're giving it a fucking spurt of growth.

dense girder
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I'm going to keep using emotes, because they look good, and they work.

agile cloud
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enforce the emote spam rule more

ruby cobalt
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Kill it at the root.

dense girder
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I would recommend you all do, but it's your decision.

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Blocks of text are LAME.

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They hurt to look at and they damage my will to live. Emotes add even the tiniest splash of color

agile cloud
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I'm looking at suggestions and all i see are blocks of text

ruby cobalt
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Blocks of text are lame for people who can't format at all, or who can't read.

ashen warren
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Emotes are too up to interpretation

dense girder
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They're boring to dredge through one by one

unique vector
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so dont read them

dusty stirrup
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Use hand signs to convey your suggestion

dense girder
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Well you can't fuck up 🛠 or ❔ can you? How would you fuck them up that badly

ashen warren
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Then don't HDfailure

ruby cobalt
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Now imagine what the devs have to do.

agile cloud
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wingdings

ashen warren
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No please

agile cloud
unique vector
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why do you need emotes for a suggestion

ruby cobalt
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Especially the ones that actually have a will to trudge through this garbage pit.

dusty stirrup
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they give you more stars I guess

dense girder
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By that extension, then tell everybody to stop using why

unique vector
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do you really need to dumb it down that far bc you cant simply read

dense girder
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It's an emote, it's bad apparently

ruby cobalt
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OH I FUCKING HATE EVERYONE WHO USES why

agile cloud
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I have the will to go through this pit, But not by much

dense girder
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you just did HDfailure

agile cloud
dense girder
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got 'em

lost agate
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Oddi

unique vector
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have you ever questioned how annoying you can be

ruby cobalt
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You know what I meant.

lost agate
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You aint helping

ruby cobalt
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You want to test me?

dense girder
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Not particularly no

agile cloud
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Nah

dense girder
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That's an answer to all three questions btw

agile cloud
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Good answer

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Also having skeletron drop bones is a good idea

ruby cobalt
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it's nice being chummy with the mods because they do you favor and are lax on warnings because you're their friend

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Do you really want to fucking test me now?

unique vector
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you should before someone beheads you

dense girder
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It was a joke smh

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Sorry my man

unique vector
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oh joke card has been played

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we got’em

ruby cobalt
agile cloud
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iirc i havent been warned even once

ruby cobalt
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Actually, we should do that, because we don't really do that now.

agile cloud
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suggestions doc

ashen warren
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That sounds inhibiting and puts a sort of lifespan on this channel in particular.

ruby cobalt
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Don't annoy people beyond what they need to be annoyed.

agile cloud
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Isnt that why my message is pinned in here?

dense girder
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In my defense, that message was a joke directed towards Ein as evidenced by the context. but yeah i'm just gonna stop talking before i dig my own grave here

ruby cobalt
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Oh, this channel had it for long enough. It's been a pool of shitty suggestions for waaay too long than I'd like it to be.

agile cloud
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You have already dug a grave

ashen warren
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Omae wa mou shinderu

agile cloud
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what

ruby cobalt
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Also get the fuck outta here with memery before I have to snap people.

agile cloud
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xd

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um, @molten hearth hasnt that been suggested multiple times already?

dense girder
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it has iirc

dusty stirrup
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yes

dense girder
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quite a lot

ruby cobalt
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Oh look, another one.

molten hearth
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Oh it has?

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Sorry :p

hollow shell
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Not that often

ashen warren
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I guess fungal clump fills that role enough to get this amount of disgust

hollow shell
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In fact it's only been delivered once

agile cloud
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Good

dense girder
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If it's already been delivered does that mean another one is worthy of being sent

agile cloud
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No

hollow shell
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smh

agile cloud
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Should it have the blue check?

hollow shell
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Nah I don't bluecheck specific weapon suggestions
because they function differently

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The one that was delivered was Akelsh's "Crabling Staff", which is essentially an automatic Hyphae Rod minion
could be mobile or could be a sentry

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p different from what Beany suggested

ashen warren
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Should there be a weapon tier/ability chart to compare suggestions to in order to avoid these situations?

hollow shell
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wdym?

ashen warren
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If someone suggests a weapon called the 'terra mere' that functions like the ark of the elements (A post ML Terra blade), then it can be compared and either be made more unique or trashed.

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So we don't get suggestions that conflict with in-game content. Like how that crabulon staff is similar to the fungal clump.

hollow shell
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Is the wiki not enough?

ashen warren
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Judging by the quality of some of these suggestions, some don't even go near the wiki and compare.

hollow shell
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Do you really think Beany didn't know Fungal Clump existed?

ashen warren
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What no

molten hearth
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I know that fungal clump exists, but imo it's just bad :p

hollow shell
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That seems to be the implication

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sorry

molten hearth
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It's ok

ashen warren
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Think more like the example of the 'terra mere'

hollow shell
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Pings work fine

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Just "@soandso uhh Terratomere exists"

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"'doh'"

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I really don't think people would check a big chart containing all Calamity weapons to see if something's been suggested before

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or

west prairie
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so im gonna assume a lot of the stuff that gets stars doesnt get sent?

hollow shell
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if it's already in the game, rather

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You talking about stuff with 65+ that doesn't have checks?

west prairie
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"i dont bluecheck weapon suggestions"

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"they work different"

hollow shell
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Bluecheck means it's been sent before.

west prairie
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oh right

hollow shell
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Green check is delivery

ashen warren
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Stepping back a bit, would a "Suggestions needed" doc that could be added onto by devs to help fill tiers in progression that are weak or need more variety be possible?

gentle lark
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@molten hearth In Calamities Vanities, there is a Crabulon pet

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but i guess there can be a minion too

molten hearth
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I know about the Crabulon pet in Calamity's Vanities. In fact, that's what inspired me to suggest a Crabulon minion LUL

agile cloud
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Oh hey another "spare Scal" suggestion

dense girder
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too many people playin undertale these days

sonic quest
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we only want blood and money 🤑

delicate raft
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SCal's fight is kinda based on Sans, so it's no surprise people suggest that

agile cloud
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wh

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n

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no its not

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Not even remotely

delicate raft
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yes it is

agile cloud
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Its a bullet hell

delicate raft
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Or at least it was before

agile cloud
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So are many bossfights

quick dove
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scal's bossfight based on sans

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excuse me

agile cloud
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megalovania intensifies

delicate raft
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At least it was

agile cloud
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It never was

delicate raft
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You think?

agile cloud
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Yep

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The fights has always been about the same

delicate raft
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just lemme check this thing again

lost agate
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Oh it totally was

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At least the quotes

dusty stirrup
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Only the quotes

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At first she didn't even have sans quotes

ashen warren
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Get dunked on

ashen warren
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Uh, why.

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What benefit would that give?

devout seal
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@halcyon pulsar SCal will eventually get a human sprite, at the point of gihting her in the lore, she is not cursed.

halcyon pulsar
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Allright

pliant bone
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Next thing you know, nohit Xeroc and Goozma using rod as only movement.

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Still a bad idea tbh

ripe smelt
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I hope Xeroc will be that kind of superboss that cant even be fought until youve done pretty much everything else

devout seal
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that's the point

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he'll be locked behind boss rush

gusty geode
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So Xeroc is the Ebony Warrior

quick dove
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why just

molten hearth
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I'm a terrible person LUL

worthy fiber
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A more ideal purpose would be to make the NPC drops slightly easier to get

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Like that Paintball gun thing

molten hearth
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Crap that's actually a good idea XD

hollow shell
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Or just, not even "slightly"
make em guaranteed drops

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if killed with this thingie

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because

why wait for them to come back

worthy fiber
brazen wedge
ashen warren
ashen warren
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Kill them all!

pliant bone
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A good way to yeet the Angler.

quick dove
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a good way to slap those fuckers in a blood moon

earnest raptor
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A good?

radiant meadow
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I think someone suggested a mothron summon before

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idk if it got sent

earnest raptor
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Okay, I finded thatm

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Cosmic Flares
Early hardmode Magic weapon (Book)
❔ : Fires a astral fire ball, which slows down as his fly and unaffected by gravity. If ball completely stops, they after 3 seconds shoots a superfast cosmic beams, which targetted to nearby enemies in 30 blocks radius. Beam's damage are calculates as (ball damage / total targets count * 1.2).
🛠 : Spell Book + 30 Stardust + 15 Fallen Star @ Bookcase
why : More Astral-themed weapons, also Wizard's spell book for that biome.

alpine copper
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Many ppl doesnt actually think about the fact that we constantly yeeting the goblin whenever he lands a bad reforge is probably why he gives bad reforges

hollow shell
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@reef mountain You need a lot more detail than that

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What does it do?

lost agate
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A lot more

ashen warren
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the true eyes probably use attacks similar to those used by the true eyes in the ML fight, if i had to guess

lost agate
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....still unspecific

hollow shell
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I really would prefer if he actually
said what the attacks are

lost agate
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Ikr

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Just... These literal 5 lines suggestions are just.... Ugh

hollow shell
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It's fine to be concise

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s'not fine to be
insufficient

reef mountain
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accurate enough?

radiant meadow
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looks much better

sleek wigeon
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speedrunning terraria

hollow shell
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Yes that is much better

ashen warren
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elemental axe doesn't make sense to exist
but it's good tho PepeHands

radiant meadow
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It exists as an elemental summon

untold gulch
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A Guide on Throwing Books
Early Hardmode Rogue weapon
❔ : A non-consumable weapon that throws a book which flies straight then falls at around 30 blocks. If it hits an enemy, the book explodes into a mass of paper and inflicts Papercut (which would be a debuff that causes an enemy to lose 3 health per second) to all enemies that get hit by the paper.
🛠 : 50 books + 5 Souls of Light + 5 Souls of Night + 5 Essences of Chaos @ Bookshelf
why : Early hardmode lacks a non-consumable rogue weapon.

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thoughts?

hollow shell
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Sounds pretty amusing

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I'd use it.

untold gulch
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neat
imma post it now

worthy raptor
grand badger
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Easy fix then. Thanks for the heads-up