Then we can put it on the wiki 
#suggestions-discussion
hollow shell
sinful violet
I wanna find a good place to do it though, since last time it was on my old math hw and had a shit ton of swear words
sleek wigeon
Put what on the wiki 👀
hollow shell
Calamity lore event timeline
reef mountain
so, can the speed cap apply only post-moonlord, and only on true melee weaps?
ashen warren
Please, fetid is broken.
sinful violet
I could do it the way the thwiki did it if you wanna put it on the wiki.
hollow shell
No, because you can reach breaking speeds long before that
Also wdym "the way the wiki did it"?
sinful violet
oh, just typing out all the linear events cut off in sections
oh, thwiki is 2hu wiki but shortened further
hollow shell
Oh I was imagining an image
sinful violet
That might be tough to format
reef mountain
just apply it to true melee weaps then
hollow shell
sinful violet
I'll get it down on paper or a doc or whatever and you guys just tell me what works
hollow shell
Yeah, we can work with this
gusty geode
Yeah, there was a bit of a plot hole I noticed a while back
Iirc Yharim went to Permafrost's tower in the Snow biome (where he apparently lived for decades at least) early in his reign
Said snow biome was created by a nuclear explosion set off by Daedalus to kill Yharim's army, which by then had already gotten pretty powerful
reef mountain
also, fetid isn't even good with 30% dr boost.
dense girder
ofc its the touhou timeline
sinful violet
hey its the only franchise i understand alright
sinful violet
perhaps, but if we're discussing it further, not here
jolly kettle
fair enough
gusty geode
more like 1hu
jolly kettle
random tide
Its a meme >;O
gusty geode
Actually quack might be on to something
Either a rework to Boss Rush or a separate mode that's Allstar Mode from Smash Ultimate
Basically a typical invasion event but all the enemies are random bosses
vestal elbow
double SCal dialogue 
sleek wadi
Make it exclude worms and it will be fine. Or maybe give worms a special exception where they will have half the segments.
Everything is astrum deus now
earnest raptor
Crueled Eye Staff
Early-Hardmode Summon Weapon
Summons the eye of eldridth to fight for you*
Takes 2 slots
❔ : Summons the EoC-like minion, which have that attacks:
- Slowly moves into foes, deal moderate damage.
- Shoots a fast moving eye projectiles, that didn't pierce, with average speed.
If player reaches <60% health, minion are empowered, have a mouth rather that pupil and will capable to that attacks: - Fast flying to enemies, deal high damage.
- Shoots a barrages of super-fast eye projectiles.
- Uncommonly super-fast dashes into foes, dealing relatively small damage, but ignores immunity frames.
🛠 : 2 Suspicious Looking Eye + 2 Essence of Cinder + 2 Essence of Eleum + 2 Essence of Chaos @ Demon Altar
Decent?
gentle lark
how about an upgrade for hardmode, or even one for post-moon lord?
gentle lark
late hardmode
earnest raptor
🤔
gentle lark
quiet abyss
@reef mountain Give a better reason than that.
"Make those attacks pass through blocks because they can't right now"?
With that logic, all attacks that can't pass through blocks should get the same treatment.
reef mountain
he is golem no.2 currently
quiet abyss
-> Storm Weaver
-> Golem No.2
Mate you're comparing a worm boss to Golem, are ya ok?
In what way does Storm Weaver even resembles Golem?
reef mountain
in the cheesibility.
vestal elbow
wouldn't he just dig his way through the blocks and yeet you tho
quiet abyss
...You do realized that many other bosses can also be cheesed, right?
You can't just compare it to Golem just cause it can be cheesed as much as Golem.
ashen warren
There's a Late HM boss that you can dodge all of the attacks by just walking so
vestal elbow
quiet abyss
That's like saying that I can compare SCal and EoC to each other because they both dash at you
reef mountain
but standing in any cave is enough to cheese this guy.
and you can get infinite adrealine this way, and even regen with a shiny stone.
quiet abyss
Uh huh, yes, but my main point is that your reason is pretty weak. "Make this boss's attacks go through wall because they can't right now" is like saying "Make SCal's abyssal fireblasts go through walls because right now they explode on contact with blocks".
Give us a valid, reason, like "So that players can't cheese the boss as easily" or smth along those lines
Also, comparing SW to Golem just cause they're both as cheesable as each other, is like comparing apples to pears just cause they're both fruits.
reef mountain
fair enough.
ashen warren
Crabulon is pretty damn weak..
spark flax
crabulon is a pushover with everything yet alone a fucking true melee sword
i slaughtered crabulon by summoning him underwater and then using claws on him
spark flax
heya
frosty kindle
@blissful heart try keep your suggestions within a single message to avoid clutter. you could also go into detail on why you would want it nerfed.
ashen warren
Red Tide Sword is outclassed by other weapons in that tier, even old lord oathsword is gonna be better.
Second, Melee Attack Speed is already nerfed next update, 50% cap back to 30%
frosty kindle
^ that too
ashen warren
Where's the detail there?
blissful heart
There
ashen warren
why'd you delete it
blissful heart
Because theres no point to it existing if they're already nerfing attack speed
frosty kindle
and as Lilith pointed out, crab is quite easy
spark flax
holy shit they're nerfing melee weapons when melee is already bad in endgame as is? Oof
i guess hopefully the buffs to dev tier weapons will help balance things then
proven tide
Oh henlo Lilith uwu
quiet abyss
@onyx wigeon You're better off making your own let's play server for that.
onyx wigeon
Okay.
proven tide
I was about to say — server suggestions should only really be for this server, but if you absolutely must suggest new servers you should keep in mind that the only reason the Calamity crew should make a server instead of you doing it is if the server is for something specifically very important and directly officially associated with the mod and direct server community.
As it is now it's just Calamity, Calamity Art as the art side of the server was getting exceedingly large and active, and the Calamity Giveaways (ran by a bunch of the same crew, IIRC)
A server that this crew aren't directly involved in and responsible for isn't something they should be tasked with setting up if the only, rather general, connection is 'it's about Calamity'
:/
ashen warren
Lilith wtf melee isn't bad lategame 
wise olive
honestly, melee isn't that good at all..... and now they're nerfing my baby the grand guardian
I'm gonna cry
the biggest thing melee has going for it is it's the main source of life steal
quiet abyss
"Melee isn't that good at all..."?
"the biggest thing melee has going for it is it's the main source of life steal"?
Mate those ain't really true
Sure melee struggles at some points, but it's definitely viable for all of the game and its main thing definitely ain't life steal
wise olive
welllll taking a look at the list of melee weaps ordered by tier... melee is completely shit prehm. Best things for you is the seashell boomerang and ball of fugu, but it is nothing next to beenades and the bee's knees
quiet abyss
...Seashell boomerang can still carry you up to skeletron if used right.
Also, stuffs like enchanted sword, starfury, perfect dark etc. exist
ruby cobalt
Oh, look, weapons that require next to no skill.
quiet abyss
And you say melee is bad just by "looking at the list of melee weapons by tier"...?
ruby cobalt
So viability is now determined by amount of shit people can use without using a singular brain cell?
Yeah, in that case ranged got every class beaten by a mile.
wise olive
tier as in rarity as in when you obtain it in the game
wise olive
yes because im primarily a melee player
quiet abyss
Ya really sure?
I have played melee before on deathmode, and apart from pre-hm melee isn't that bad anywhere else.
And even in pre-hm, melee still ain't that bad
wise olive
its not bad but nerfing things implies that they're at least good and possibly even stronger than other things
i dunno if I would go that far
quiet abyss
Calamity weapons ain't the only options melee has, too.
Some vanilla melee weapons still are viable, like starfury.
Also "nerfing things implies that they're at least good and possibly even stronger than other things"
That's because grand guardian fits that category
quiet abyss
It has been tested by numerous people, and grand guardian is indeed a lil too strong at the point it can be obtained.
Also, the nerf isn't that bad.
It's more or less just a small nerf
wise olive
i wasn't saying the nerf wasn't warranted to gg
i was just sad that my fav weapon got nerfed
but melee in general isn't that strong
quiet abyss
That's rather debatable, but I can see where you're coming from.
ruby cobalt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnnPPB2RGvE&feature=youtu.be
Ask yourself, should this be possible?
wise olive
seriously guys i wasn't talking about the gg when i said "melee wasn;t strong" lmao
that was a whole other train of thought
quiet abyss
I'm well aware
ruby cobalt
You did bring it up as one of your arguments.
wise olive
other people here don't seem to be
no it was 2 different sentences
one
melee isn't that good at all
ashen warren
As someone who played through melee just a few weeks ago, melee is bad for WoF only
wise olive
2
and they're nerfing my baby grand guardian
unrelated
because i know gg is op and i love it that way
quiet abyss
Anyways, onto another matter
I don't think this convo should continue in here.
Perhaps move to #calamity-mod-talk
ruby cobalt
@wooden leaf you can mine gravel.
wooden leaf
What pickaxe
ashen warren
Nightmare can mine gravel iirc, it just takes like 10 hits
If not then definitely molten, still takes ages though
wooden leaf
Damn it i should have known better....
ashen warren
It's cool fam
novel surge
ah i wish i knew that too
radiant pawn
i like that DIO friend
dense girder
Love Train - Hardmode Teleportation Item
"Dojyan!"
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = Allows you to teleport anywhere on your map simply by clicking on it. Using it will detract a chunk of your health and half of your mana, but you will also gain a speed boost for a few minutes.
🛠 = Created at a Mythril Anvil w/ Rod of Discord, Gypsy Powder & Stardust
= An item that allows you to teleport around the map would be immensely useful in singleplayer where there are no team members to wormhole to and where making world-spanning teleporters is hugely expensive.
thots and ideas?
sonic quest
Why not add the rod of discord to its recipe since they have similar effects/usage?
dense girder
Because the rod of discord is an absolute cunt to get
But that's a good idea ehrnemmh
Actually that does seem better than a mirror, yeah
lost agate
Rod of discord isnt too hard to get
lost agate
Binch, it has a crafting recipe
opal barn
You can craft it though
dense girder
wait really?
opal barn
and defiled rune exists
dense girder
in calamity?
lost agate
Yes
dense girder
how does one do this?
lost agate
With chaos fish, souls of light and pixie dust
lost agate
Its nice
ashen warren
It's nice, I want it 
dense girder
Modded it a bit, detracts a good chunk of both health and mana rather than chunk of HP and half of mana
also gives a def boost but both for less
cyan horizon
Just use imksushi
dense girder
here's a thought for you
what if people don't want to use imksushi
just because X mod has it doesn't mean Y mod can't have it
ashen warren
imksushi is pretty overpowered
sonic quest
and the tokens get annoying fast tbh
but its a neat suggestion, tping on the map can be handy
ashen warren
For sure, you wouldn't spam it either since it pretty much near kills you
dense girder
It's like the Rod of Discord's Chaos State debuff, but instead of half health, it's the same amount each time
so you can't escape with near deaths at like 60hp
also no escaping from bosses on low health
ashen warren
yeah
ashen warren
Might have accidently hit enter while typing
untold gulch
or was playing a game
ashen warren
Yeah, it's gone now
untold gulch
neat
ashen warren
Damn, would have loved to see 'd' get 65 stars just to see how the Devs would react.
I'm tempted to put it back in there.
ashen warren
Got it
dense girder
renames Calamity to d
untold gulch
"i really hate fighting scal in the d mod"
dense girder
Calami-D
Now, get this:
An item that toggles Frenzy Mode, which summons 15 of a boss but all at very small sizes and with nerfed stats and slightly nerfed loot drops
frail mantle
ashen warren
All enemies are now replaced with bosses
ancient atlas
"i'm still mad that he doesn't have a song" mode, turns every boss and enemy into Cnidrion
rustic ember
Just Cnidrion
worthy fiber
He has a few seconds, that's pretty much enough already 
ashen warren
If they nerfed the spawn rate or made it a challenge, maybe i'd actually complain, but as it stands, Cnidrion are too common to encounter.
dense girder
Platinum Fists - Post-DoG Magic Weapon
"Ora!"
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = An upgrade to the Nebula Blaze. On left click (use time 6), rapidly fires homing fists that pierce through enemies and cause small explosions that inflict God Slayer Inferno briefly on hit/pierce; pierces up to 4 times.
- On right click (use time 20), fires a single, huge fist that causes a massive explosion, inflicting everything caught in its radius with God Slayer Inferno for slightly longer.
🛠 = Created at Draedon's Forge w/ Nebula Blaze, Cosmilite Bars, Meld Blobs, Stardust, Armored Shells
= The Nebula Blaze is an underrated vanilla weapon with a cool concept that could be interesting if it was expanded upon and made better.
thoughts?
rustic ember
I like it
dense girder
ye the more I think about jojo the more I realise there's opportunities to make good calamity weapons with jojo references
i actually really like this one as a weapon idea, jojo aside i think it seems like a good weapon
love train would be useful but it's not my favorite suggestion ever
I really, really like DIO's Best Friend though
ancient atlas
expecting an emerald that makes you crash into a water tower and instantly kill you
dense girder
ashen warren
TBH why not make it a HANDO reference?
Also, going along with the Mourningstar and the Phangasm, which are both upgrades to the pillar tier items, only cosmilite and phantoplasm are used.
ashen warren
There might be a reason there is no extra elemental weapons for melee. We have the lance, shiv, and ark
young fog
eh maybe
elder sparrow
is terrarian even viable
ruby cobalt
no, not really
elder sparrow
if it isnt make it shine and give buff
that means all ml drops except prism need buffs
ashen warren
That implies that people want stuff like the celebration to be buffed
The Celebration Mk. II looks cool, i wonder if it could be buffed to function more like that
What would be the point of the upgrade then?
dense girder
ORAORAORAORAORA
ooh now that i think of it
a diamond-based item with the tooltip "Dorararara!" is popping into my mind
hollow shell
@gaunt karma Stress Pills, not Pain Killers
gaunt karma
covert wing
i like me a good jojoke but isn't that a bit too much
dense girder
reference aside i think it's actually a really good weapon idea
dense girder
...yeah, because it's a good weapon idea?
nebula blaze could use an upgrade and I like the idea i've come up with
it's like a unique spin on scorpio for mages but better
Magician's Six - Pre-HM Rogue Weapon
"Ace!"
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A deck of cards. On use, sprays cards that, depending on which card type is fired, does more damage. ♥ = 25% damage, 75% fire chance. ♣ = 50% damage, 50% fire chance. ♦ = 75% damage, 25% fire chance. ♠ = 100% damage, 10% fire chance.
🛠 = Can be purchased from the Travelling Merchant for 15 gold.
= I think a new, unique weapon based around cards with each suit doing varying damage would be interesting to see in-game; additionally, there could be upgrades for this weapon with each suit doing more unique things.
alpine garnet
I personally think rogue would be nice, I feel like mage already has more phm options
dense girder
hey look guys it's not a jojo reference you can leave me alone now
alpine garnet
and I feel like it'd fit more
alpine garnet
it could fit in either imo
dense girder
true
alpine garnet
but I feel like rogue could use it more
dense girder
magicians aren't even magic smh
they're tricksters, like rogues
what do you think of its stats?
alpine garnet
I feel like it's kinda cool concept, but it might be cool to make it have a bit more damage and possibly a rare "backfiring" which gives a debuff or smth
since I feel like just balancing fire/damage% isnt super interesting imo
dense girder
ooh, how's this:
each card inflicts a unique debuff, e.g. frostburn/on fire/slow/something else, but the longer you hold down the mouse button, the lower your defense falls
Magician's Six - Pre-HM Magic Weapon
"It's a royal flush!"
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A deck of cards. On use, sprays cards that, depending on which card type is fired, has a 15% chance to inflict a different debuff -- Hearts inflict On Fire, Diamonds inflict Burning Blood, Spades inflict Frostburn, Clubs inflict Shadowflame.
🛠 = Can be purchased from the Travelling Merchant for 15 gold.
= I think a new, unique weapon based around cards with each suit doing different debuffs would be interesting to see in-game; additionally, there could be upgrades for this weapon with each suit doing more unique things.
Reworked edition
rustic ember
I like the weapon concept but I'd rather have this for rogue
But it does work for magic
ashen warren
Another card idea?
dense girder
another?
was there one before?
Ent - Rare Hardmode Miniboss
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = A camouflaging miniboss. Spawns only in the Purity (regular biome) during the day and resembles a regular tree until approached, at which point it reveals itself. Moves very slowly, does contact damage and shoots small bursts of leaves. Drops a lot of wood on death.
= With the different enemies added in the Hallow and Crimson, the Purity could use some dangerous enemies of its own; the most it gets after Hardmode is nighttime monsters. Also serves as a way of getting wood if trees are short.
ashen warren
There were plenty before for rogue, magic, and, at one point, throwing
quick dove
it would be nice to get some attention to purity
dense girder
eh well mine's unique i hope with the suits and stuff
quick dove
but i'd say that fits more with the hallow
fervent zealot
no thanks i like actually having a ccess to normal wood
quick dove
actually no nvm
dense girder
the whole point of it is that it's not hallow
quick dove
im dumb
fervent zealot
anything is common if you want it to be common
fervent zealot
it's a great argument if you're lucky
fresh harbor
imagine zerg wood farming
quick dove
if it had more drops id say its ok but really who is gonna spent some time waiting for some miniboss to spawn instead of getting an axe and chopping some trees down
ashen warren
As a general note, Vanilla. Please consider a quality over quantity approach in the future.
dense girder
..did you mean quality over quantity?
dense girder
I've already made quite a few suggestions today do you want me to shit out 5 more
sinful violet
no thanks
ashen warren
Some don't feel as if they don't have as much thought put into them.
dense girder
thanks
I try my best to make them high quality
where do you think i'm lackin in some of em? for future reference
switching between channels 100
quick dove
it doesnt seem to fit much with calamity
ashen warren
For starters, items don't fit a niche that is actively needed. RoD is good enough as is. Also, 3/4 of the suggestions are JJBA related. Not bad, but some are pretty obvious and hurt the quality of the suggestion by being somewhat unrelated.
dense girder
I don't make them purely for the reference 🤷 I notice the reference, I think "how could I spin this into a good weapon", then I focus on making it a good weapon/thing/whatever the heckity heck it is; the reference is a bonus
As for the Love Train thing, I think that, putting aside DIO's Best Friend and my old Abyss suggestion, it's one of my best suggestions yet
The fact that you can only really use wormholes or teleporters to move across the map near-instantaneously is annoying as hell, and mounts can be fast, sure, but they're still not great
ashen warren
You know what rhymes with Wizhard bungle femple and shouldn't be accessed by the teleporter?
dense girder
you can't teleport inside the lihzahrd jungle temple with RoD iirc, right
quick dove
u can
fervent zealot
you can, just not pre plant
dense girder
no problem then
ashen warren
And you can make the love train before hand
dense girder
Actually fuck
I just realised yeah, anywhere on the map is too powerful
I'll change it to anywhere visible on the map, where you've been before
or anywhere on screen, like RoD
ashen warren
So, if I light up the inside of the jungle temple, can I get in for free?
dense girder
^
if the RoD and hoiks let you in already
then the issue is more to do with those two that need fixing beforehand
fix the RoD and apply it to Love Train, done
ashen warren
Actually, let me help you out there.
No temple door
You can get in the temple by cheesing anyway, remove it now.
Quality suggestion
dense girder
^ thanks for the salt, my fish was kinda dry
I also changed it to remove the aforementioned JJ reference cause actually for that one the reference was pretty unclear, yeah
changed it something different now, "World Glyph" and no it's not a damn dio reference
I guess the Ent is pretty low quality but I'm struggling to think of what other drops I could give it
leaf blower???? nty
ashen warren
As of now, its a simple QOL miniboss, and given how many players at least start their bases in the purity, it may get annoying when an ent spawns when they go out.
dense girder
would you be willing to help me with some Purity suggestions, then? you seem like a bright fellow and I could use some assistance
ashen warren
aighty then
hollow shell
@ashen warren Is that second line supposed to be a recipe?
ashen warren
ye
fervent zealot
that'd be nice but i wonder how much hell that would be to code
hollow shell
Actually I dont think it'd be too hard
fervent zealot
true it's probably possible to make a block count for multiple of a biome block
iirc sunflowers count for like 20 anti corruption blocks or something
hollow shell
Not necessarily "multiple"
though thats a possibility
I know that it is possible to control the range/effect of certain tiles toward a biome
For instance, astral ice has a greater effect than astral stone, due to the fact that there's less of it on the surface snow
So it's probably possible to have a Biome Extender furniture which has a very powerful biome range/effect
ashen warren
Needing to put down long biome poles and actuating them was always annoying, seems good.
fervent zealot
honestly i need to document new astral biome reqs
i've got a list of most modded biome block reqs (no shit mods like tremor) and it's getting kind of out of date
marsh gust
what..
radiant meadow
@steady cloud that's not a suggestion 
frosty kindle
who what where
jovial spire
what was that about lol
radiant meadow
Just don't do it again, okay?
steady cloud
got it
terse sundial
@ashen warren We have a Calamity Boss Rush, activated using the Terminus item
ashen warren
I think they mean all at once
hollow shell
There's an item for that in Fargo's
summer egret
skeletron prime bab
dense girder
it isn't badass
runic mesa
i really dont think pets should affect gameplay, they should be aesthetic
runic mesa
as if not, like thorium, the pet that can deal damage is automatically optimal, and all other pets are useless
dense girder
that's called a summon
ashen warren
And if you want pets, go to vanities
ashen warren
Then you'd gotta give the other ones weapons
rapid pivot
maybe it'd be like the Yharon summons, multiple weapons, but they take up multiple minion slots?
runic mesa
but then its a summon? they are directly stating it's a pet
dense girder
^
runic mesa
as a summon, i would like it
ashen warren
But as it stands, ech
rapid pivot
hm
maybe it'd sorta be like the stardust dragon, almost?
except instead of segments, it'd add weapons to the skelly prime?
ashen warren
Actually, that sounds neato
ashen warren
Vice/laser/rocket/chainsaw>
rapid pivot
2, maybe 3 slots depending on the damage, and if the weapons can fire/attack independently
runic mesa
and then slots after the 4 weps were added, each slot increases fire rate/damage?
it'd look kinda silly for prime to have multiple of each weapon
ashen warren
In the case of mech-boss related summons (Which should totally be draedon drops imo)
rapid pivot
or it could summon a second skelly prime
ashen warren
Would a vilethorn/Destroyer combination be a good idea?
dense girder
@summer egret are you taking notes
ashen warren
One prime with 16 arms
summer egret
All of them are saws
ashen warren
dense girder
summons two arms, then two legs
dense girder
now you have skele prime running around like papyrus in undertale destroying things
could you not fragment please
runic mesa
wait its a summon? you should probably denote that considering you compared it to the skeletron pet
rapid pivot
pity death-only items aren't a thing, I could see a prime version of the dungeon guardian pet being a pretty decent reward for an Armageddon/Death Mode version of the draedon's remote summon
runic mesa
if a pet, it would need to lose the ability to do damage
ashen warren
It is.
ashen warren
Ah, I was thinking about the shockstorm shuttle
delicate raft
Lel
ashen warren
vestal elbow
it fits thematically idk
that and it seems tedious to get
just like normal skeletron pet
sudden quail
Not really.
Skeletron Prime isn't a satanic enflamed beast with a fringe, a fedora and a katana. It's a mechanical menace built as an upgraded & more powerful version of Skeletron
The other items fit, though. Even if you misspelled Hallowed
elder sparrow
make it 69
pets arent meant to deal damage idk what to feel about that
wait
nvm its a summoning item lol
tired haven
"Pets aren't meant to deal damage"
Mobile Terraria: 
vestal elbow
ashen warren
I'm not sure if the prefix thing is entirely possible
Vanilla steered away from "The" because of that presumably
fossil torrent
imagine getting furious because of an item name
also yeah I think the name and prefix thing is hardcoded
hollow shell
There's a mod that fixes it.
gaunt drum
also The is the items name not a prefix
earnest raptor
Blood Infused Insignia
Unique accessory
❔ : Have a that properties:
- Reduces a lifesteal cooldown by 30%
- Increases amount of life leach by 40%
- Reduces damage by 30%
🛠 : 30 Spectre Bar + 5 Bar of Life + 100 Blood Orb + 25 Ashes of Calamity @ Mythril Anvil
: Pretty big group of players has been annoyed by life steal nerf. This accessory supposed to partially revert that change as trade of reduced damage.
Good?
frank stratus
legendary the axe master tool
winter tangle
I didn't know there was a mod for it.
ashen warren
That used to be a very common suggestion
sacred thorn
I like the idea but isn’t that what infinite mode is for?
Not for you vanilla ice btw
ashen warren
Infinite mode?
sacred thorn
The mod that allows you to make things like chlorophyte bullet pouches or endless torches etc.
ashen warren
Luiafk and fargo have those 2 items
tiny rivet
Infinity
drowsy valley
you mean more endless ammo?
sacred thorn
Yeah
ashen warren
Fyi, if you don't mind the other stuff in it then luiafk makes all ammo that stacks over 3996 not consume
Maxstack+ is also useful
vernal sierra
Thoughts on my idea?
ashen warren
Calamity devs have said it's something they don't wanna do iirc
The pin was removed or something I guess
vernal sierra
Ah. Just wanted to give a more...balanced way of getting the Infinite Ammo, without the rather broken LuiAFK
ashen warren
You can always wait for ancient manip for pre-ml ammo and draedon's forge for post-ml in the meantime
vernal sierra
I suppose
dense girder
@hollow shell hello "chad"
faint rivet
Self-star 
dense girder
ok listen here little buddy i'm about to unleash a torrential rant on you
faint rivet
Sure
dense girder
when a vote is started for someone to get votekicked in tf2, they automatically vote no
goes for most games
when you make a suggestion, you made it, you obviously endorse it
ergo you should star it
and please don't use the analogy somebody used before of "obama can't vote for himself" because that does not make any sense here at all and it's dummy
faint rivet
Well it's true
dense girder
but it aint relevant
why is the suggestion for an all-boss-summoning item still there 
ashen warren
Self-starring would be fine in my book if the star limit was raised by 1 to compensate, the limit is meant to represent 65 people not 64.
It's so small though that I don't mind that much, I just find self-starring dishonest.
dense girder
imagine making a game and then not endorsing it
that's what happens when you don't self-star
ashen warren
Stars aren't advertising though
dense girder
endorsing*
ashen warren
You weren't allowed to vote for yourself in steam greenlight, closest analogy I can think of off the top of my head
mental path
Since koi also means love in japanese maybe add them to a love potion recipe? @dense girder
hmmm maybe lifeforce/heartreach
delicate raft
Yharim*
hearty yew
@ashen warren @dense girder
The suggestion bot also gives you a star, so the limit should actually be raised by 2.
frail mantle
^tbh
sleek wigeon
limit is arbitary
If it was fine tuned to the point of perfection i'd see your point
hearty yew
There is nothing really wrong with endorsing your own suggestion, the limit could just be 67 instead.
Or it could be 65 anyway, so you only need 63 others. I guess the point is "It doesn't matter whether it's precise, just that it's a lot."
dense girder
fair enough
shame that COTS didn't make it but eh
I still don't get where I went wrong with narwhal 
anybody got any thoughts on that? was it that another ocean enemy is unwanted, or that its drops aren't good enough?
dense girder
crown of thorns starfish
8 away 😔 too buried now though, i'll save it for a later doc
i didn't post my purity things did I
I did ask for feedback here previously and I got zilch so once again
ashen warren
for 30 seconds
I don't know about that one chief
dense girder
15 sound good?
I already got that idea from Bidoof but I thought 30 seemed better
but yeah, for pre-hm it should be lowered
dense girder
just you wait, somebody's gonna come along and make a Mosquito Gun sugge--
holy fuck that actually is a good idea
mosquito gun -- fires mosquitoes that heal you
gonna add that brb
ashen warren
Goodbye bees, hello mozzies
dense girder
should I make it a hardmode thing?
I'm thinking mosquitoes, cursed flames/ichor and souls of night
ashen warren
Lifesteal
Yes, HM
Didn't even notice:
"boosts your movement speed, maximum life, maximum mana and decreases mob spawn rate, and gives minor increases to all other stats."
That's.. a bit strong for a pre-boss item.
dense girder
Trying to combine Happy! and Well Fed but I can see how it's op
nerf the movement speed additive and maximum life/mana?
or I could buff the recipe
sleek wigeon
Could say gives Happy! and Well Fed
dense girder
Actually hold on, how about adding Victory Shards? They have practically no use and it'd make sense
sleek wigeon
Still pre boss
dense girder
I think it'd be easier for one item to give one buff than two separate ones
Or at least neater for your buff display area
sleek wigeon
the point is, it wouldnt stack
ashen warren
I love eating crystals that fell out of a seahorse
dense girder
but what's the point if he has no music 
dense girder
Sunflowers, Pumpkins, Dayblooms, Victory Shards and Demonic... Bone... Ash...?
pre-boss but much harder to get
civic rampart
@frail mantle there's a typo (broken hero soul )
frail mantle
shitsickles again
speaking of that, is there anything i can replace with the broken hero sword that's still post-the three mechs?
ashen warren
Mechanical cart parts
dense girder
seq go to bed
frail mantle
i don't really want to make it expert exclusive though
ashen warren
Fyi vanilla, this is the buffs combined
+2 defense
+2% critical hit chance on all attacks (except summon attacks)
+5% melee speed
+5% damage (including summons)
+50% minion knockback
+30% movement speed
17% reduction in enemy spawn rate
Adding any more isn't necessary imo
ok now I can sleep
civic rampart
Nah mods are just lazy, they'll get sent to dev chan eventually
opal barn
mods are lazy
Most of the mods are not devs btw
ashen warren
Iirc it's sors that does that
fossil torrent
why did you even get the idea to ping devs when suggestions are 65+
nobody else does it
ashen warren
Best option to stay patient and devs will send it when they have the time to do so
ashen warren
"Repo"?
ashen warren
Edit that in to your old message tbh
Also maybe remove "Exactly the same suggestion as above" since it's pretty old and your old suggestion isn't above that anymore
hollow shell
Jesus that's powerful
Recipe isn't necessarily cheap but wow
ashen warren
Tbh that life fruit vase needs to be rebalanced
Lifeforce + Regen ontop of having other buffs and 50 more hp
sonic quest
maybe lower the hp bonus to 5, equal to how much hp life fruit gives you
ashen warren
Maybe 25 atleast?
alpine copper
Maybe
frail mantle
is suggesting cross-content between Calamity and other mods allowed, for example a bard weapon drop from the Perforators/Hive Mind?
frail mantle
i think Fab's already considering making Calamity compatible with Thorium
dapper karma
its not already?
frail mantle
don't understand what you mean with "merge" though
dapper karma
like make it one mod
fossil torrent
It's compatible, but fab has considered making cross-content. #mod-announcements
frail mantle
uhh
sonic quest
Don't see that happening
two different mods by two different devs/teams merging into one is.. very very unlikely
frail mantle
^
dapper karma
DISCLAIMER: i am not the real shadowspec i just thought of it parltly on my own
frail mantle
anyways, what Ci said is true
gusty geode
Danny actually said something about it
I had asked about Rev/Death support for Thorium bosses and he said that while that wouldn't happen, Bard/Healer weapons (specifically Healer) are a possibility once the mod enters post-development
ashen warren
Fighting gtb and ds would be nice since they are about the same tier in progression
alpine copper
I tweaked the effects of one of my reposts
The life fruit one
Feedback is appreciated
runic mesa
personally, if i made it, i would have made it so that gaia's power wouldnt stack with the buffs that made it up
atleast so it wouldnt stack with the ironskin effect
alpine copper
Well technically the point of being a hardmod3 upgrade is making it stronger so stacking makes it stronger
But if it was a totally diferent buff it could work well without stacking
Yeah ill do that
gusty geode
They'd just make the rope higher
Then again, by that point it might be so high KS could despawn
ashen warren
Why not make him shoot mines or smth
runic mesa
^
ashen warren
It only has to be one to push the player away from the rope
Also Astrum is a lagfest w/o
Mines
ashen warren
I dunno, that seems really specific
ashen warren
It doesn't really deserve it's own debuff like that
gusty geode
Maybe just a simple spike projectile
Like the ones the Spiked Slimes it spawns shoot
ashen warren
A mine makes more sense, since the other slime boss has mines as well
eager palm
why do people keep making these suggestions
slime king and desert scourge are first bosses for a reason, they are meant to be easy
you can cheese desert scourge with grenades and you can cheese king slime with rope
if you dont want to do these strats
dont do them
simple as that.
mental path
its still cheese
eager palm
alpine copper
Thats the point almost everyone wont not use those estrategies
bitter topaz
it's fucking king slime
alpine copper
So make them not viable anymore
eager palm
IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CHEESING, DONT DO IT.
bitter topaz
he's meant to be a glorified tutorial boss in the base game
there's literally no point in buffing him
gusty geode
"If you don't want to do it then don't" is why it took so long for the Halibut Cannon to get nerfed
It's not a very good argument for keeping stuff like this
Doesn't make its existence a non-issue
runic mesa
people will always use the best strategy. there is no reason not to, if it consistently works,outside of some honor code
mental path
thats the same strategy ea used
ashen warren
Halibut cannon is intentionally op, and King Slime is also intentionally weak, thats it
bitter topaz
two strategies exist against KS
- Walk in a straight line
- Ropes
both require the same amount of brain power to use
there's no point in removing one option if the other is equally as brainless to do
are you gonna say to remove walking as well or something?
gusty geode
The high spawn rate of Slimes which I think Calamity removed made walking in a straight line harder
bitter topaz
calamity doesn't remove it at all
mental path
why would someone remove walking over ropes
gusty geode
The whole Zen thing during boss fights was an indirect nerf to KS because it partly relied on the Slime Rain to be challenging
bitter topaz
fucking what
ashen warren
Of ks did something of importance, maybe. As for now, it's a glorified miniboss with a dumb set of drops
A boss needing an event to be challenging
Nice
alpine copper
I insist, "if you dont want to do it dont do it" its not an actual valid argument since most ppl wont not do it
bitter topaz
you are aware KS existed before slime rain? right?
and that KS can spawn naturally without slime rain
gusty geode
Maybe it's because of a mod I probably have that makes a Slime Rain happen every time KS spawns
The Slime Rain exists because of KS
Yes it can be fought outside of it, but unless you either get unlucky or go out of your way to summon it like that you'll first fight it in one
opal barn
I don't really understand why the 1st boss has to be all that challenging, DS can be cheesed with platfroms as well yet I don't see any suggestions to make him not cheesable in that way
ruby cobalt
"make DS destroyer lol"
bitter topaz
^
again, it's a glorified tutorial boss
ashen warren
That doesn't justify a reason for an intentionally easy boss to be buffed though
mental path
Im not saying make it challenging
Im saying the cheese strat makes you get good stuff really early
gusty geode
It can be easy without being easily cheesed
eager palm
What good stuff lol
opal barn
Good stuff as in slime hook and mount
ashen warren
King Slime has barely any good stuff though???
mental path
^
opal barn
and maybe ninja armor but that's thrower
bitter topaz
the slime mount isn't even good until you get wings, either
mental path
and its accessible once you get like 30 rope
frail mantle
imo "if you don't want it don't do it" is a valid argument in some cases, for example the rope strat, because if someone does it, they have no reason to complain that King Slime is hard, because they intentionally chose themselves to make the easiest boss in the game even easier
opal barn
That's one good thing from SK
alpine copper
We definetly need more rogue class changes in #changelogs
opal barn
The other being Slime hook and almost every gem hook (iirc) outclassess it I think?
bitter topaz
it's also accessible once you make a decently large platform
again, both options are equally as brainless
diamond hook is better iirc
ashen warren
Amethyst is worse than slime hook tera
opal barn
Ye most of gem hooks outclass it
eager palm
there's a lot of rogue changes next patch @alpine copper theyre just still being worked on
eager palm
opal barn
bruh
bitter topaz
jesus christ
ashen warren
Are you like trolling
alpine copper
Calm down just joking
sonic quest
😬
alpine copper
I know its hard work
opal barn
queue seinfeld theme
ruby cobalt
the proper word is cue btw
opal barn
Ye I forgot the word lmao
ashen warren
Doesn't even edit it
sonic quest
takes it like a champ
runic mesa
would having the dungeon chests possibly contain gold/platinum crowns be a good suggestion?
they can be annoying to craft
dense girder
Q Seinfeld Theme
not really exotic
mainly because: why would you need them at that stage? you can buy slime crowns
and getting the gold/platinum is more than easy enough by skeletron
dense girder
no but you can make them dummy
into slime crowns which is one of the only uses i can think for aside from vanity
runic mesa
wow i blanked on the crawlers being a thing
dense girder
:brain:
runic mesa
happy i put this here first
dense girder
bot machine broke
dense girder
suggestion machine broke
runic mesa
i feel making the purity biome have more enemies would be a bad idea, as its kinda meant to be a calm place you can make houses and stuff easily
tho i do like the critters
mental path
it isnt calm at night tho
frail mantle
it's only not calm at night until around about when Desert Scourge is defeated
runic mesa
^
and after that, its nice, calm, and just a place to build and stuff
and i'd rather not have mosquitos biting me in terraria. sucks enough in real life
gusty geode
I like those ideas
Making the Purity more dangerous would encourage building your main base somewhere else, as you'd have to decide what you do and do not want to deal with constantly
dense girder
friendly reminder that neither of those hm mobs are active pursuers until you get too near
gusty geode
Anywhere can become pretty safe once enough NPCs show up, anyway
mental path
spawn rates decrease around town npcs
devout seal
No
Dried Seekers are really annoying
mental path
just throw a grenade at them
devout seal
well, would be
stop suggesting things to things the devs already know about, but don't see a need to fix
gusty geode
Wait, why'd my star get removed
It wasn't that big a change, was it?
dense girder
I liked it :(
ruby cobalt
No, because you were just told why this particular change is retarded in another argument, yet you went with it.
ruby cobalt
I can remove the entirety of reactions alright.
gusty geode
Maybe I'm not looking in the right places or I'm just an idiot but I don't see it
Care to refresh my memory?
frail mantle
just scroll about half an hour worth of messages upwards
bitter topaz
scroll up to the argument that was literally just had, maybe?
the entire point of it was KS and DS are intended to be easy
they don't need buffs because then that'd beat the entire reason they exist
frail mantle
tl;dr, they're tutorial bosses and should be easy
gusty geode
And they're still pretty easy with the changes we suggested
If need be nerf the Seeker HP to compensate
But fine, I don't wanna be banned so I'll shut up
dusty stirrup
What's the point of the suggestion then
bitter topaz
they're glorified tutorial bosses holy shit
just get this through your head already
gusty geode
Prevent cheese without affecting difficulty
bitter topaz
what? the cheese of walking?
gusty geode
Fine, fair enough
dusty stirrup
for ds it's kinda the way you're meant to fight it unless you got slime saddle
runic mesa
why do we need tutorial bosses if we are using a mod like calamity?
lost agate
Because its still a game
dense girder
y'all 🗿
mental path
but i still think needing only 2-3 minutes from a new world/character to completely prepare for a fight with king slime is too little
lost agate
Any game needs a proper introduction to it
dense girder
it's not to introduce the game as a whole
dusty stirrup
Sad !
dense girder
if you're using mods you likely know enough about terraria
it's to prepare you for what calamity has in store
unorthodox battles that are dissimilar in some aspects to vanilla
runic mesa
alright, fair
lost agate
Otherwise we could simply slap in provi as the first boss
"you know how this works right?" Well nope
ashen warren
@dense girder that suggestion is great
rapid pivot
That sounds quite a bit like Death Mode, in a way.
gusty geode
How so?
dense girder
sounds like a bitch to code
fossil torrent
that looks like fucking cancer to code
dense girder
fab will get this in his dms from a dev, take one look at it and say "do you fucking neanderthals think i spend 24/7 coding all the shit you send me every day"
dense girder
plonk
gusty geode
Sounds fun tho, right?
rustic ember
How would scal work in this
ashen warren
Isn't a body pillow
clear basin
Damn you right
ashen warren
Bodypillow of DoG
clear basin
Nah man it's all about the brimmy body pillow
runic mesa
id buy a DoG bodypillow
ashen warren
yharon bodypillow
Yharon bodypillow yes daddy
Archmage body pillow
fabsol bodypillow
dusty stirrup
yikers
ashen warren
Maybe wearing it can ward off accidental invasions
runic mesa
^
hybrid ocean
a DoG body pillow would be so goddamn long
gusty geode
Made some edits to answer all your questions, hope it helps definitely big enough for a doc now
gusty geode
Original was called hide-and-seek, but that's probably worse
Went with "Hunted Mode"
That feels a little better
round falcon
Lore-wise DoG sounds the most fitting (and fun )
gusty geode
^
gusty geode
I'm a little worried that hunted hasn't gotten its mark removed yet
Maybe it just hasn't been seen by someone with the power?
hollow shell
There ya go
gusty geode
Thanks
dense girder
There's a whole bunch of suggestions with remaining ❕ and 65+ stars
@hollow shell forgive the ping
hollow shell
This is true.
hybrid ocean
Make some enemies also damage other creatures, let's say, slimes don't attack each other, but they could target other type of enemies, antlions could target vultures/sand slimes, etc, enemies could start targeting the player once the npc they are actually attacking is dead to not make a group of enemies fight to death ignoring the player completelly
: this could make the game more realistic, because every enemy in the game only targets the player
how about this
hybrid ocean
i think their drop rates should also be lowered/removed completely if something dies to another enemy to prevent using a bunch of statue spawned npcs to kill bosses like king slime or other easier bosses
hasty wigeon
Or just make bosses not take damage to them
hybrid ocean
that also works
hasty wigeon
I think while the whole "why does everythung only attack me" is fair
Other options have too many variables
/shrug
hybrid ocean
it's kinda weird for npcs that are supposed to be like animals like antlions, slimes, bats, etc. only target you
hybrid ocean
i mean they don't think like humans
dense girder
fair enough
echo night
is that a good idea or nah
simple plank
i think it's good butcode tho
dense girder
have some of the suggestions with 65+ been sent? I count 6 with no checkmark
echo night
i never heard of the lunic eye reducing DR tho
hollow shell
That's literally its purpose lol
echo night
what is the lunic eye anyway xD
hollow shell
Well
in its conception, its purpose was also reducing Stress
but that came and went
echo night
i never really heard of that item before
gusty geode
I think suggestions that are hard to code but are otherwise really good should be given a special reaction to show they've been acknowledged but won't be implemented until much later when there isn't more important stuff to do
hybrid ocean
like the cat and mouse one
hybrid ocean
they should just get the 🏁, you know it's gonna be added, you just gotta wait
hybrid ocean
that's what i meant
dense girder
🔜 for will be implemented
hollow shell
lmao no
Imagine all the re-pins
We've gotta keep Rules at the top
#changelogs will tell you what's gonna be added.
radiant meadow
ichor already lowers DR though?
and cursed flames
oh yeah, if rules should be at the top, should I repin them?
hollow shell
Not sure
I think this is fine the way we have it
because the rules are still visible in the pins
whereas the current top pin wont be visible if rules is repinned
(without scrolling)
rapid pivot
um
realism doesn't usually make for good gameplay
unless the point of the game's to be realistic
and uh
ichor/lunic eye already lowers DR @echo night
hollow shell
This is true, it does
At least, for enemies that have DR to lower.
elfin plank
aquatic scourge doesnt despawn
lusty idol
Shouldn't the Suggestions Legend pin also be in the actual suggestions feed?
lusty idol
True. I just thought the information there would be more appropriate. But it still works though.
hollow shell
^
smh imagine asking for something to be in pins and not scrolling through all the pins
gusty geode
How many times has Yharim's army been suggested, and how many times has it qualified for the dev server?
Honestly, if it were to ever happen, it should be just before the fight with Yharim himself, with the latter serving as the event's final boss
Maybe as one of the phases Yharim breaks down crying over losing Yharon and the spawn rate would go through the roof for a couple minutes
radiant meadow
I doubt it'll happen if it isn't on the dev's agenda
and Yharim is still very far in the future
ashen warren
Trav's suggestion is actually pretty nice
Well thanks. it's mostly just because it's a freaking hassle to grind all the way up from level one if you change classes, or if you update from a previous version like I have.
lost agate
@lucid marsh or we could just leave it as it is and thats the end of the story
lucid marsh
Or we could not do that
lost agate
Also, smh no reason at all
lucid marsh
Check again
lost agate
Yeah i see an edit
lucid marsh
Yes I did edit it
lost agate
Still a vague reason
radiant meadow
it's a nice qol change?
lost agate
Also, imagine trying to change something that isnt on the game yet
lucid marsh
And yet it has 5 stars in less than 10 minutes
lost agate
And?
lucid marsh
I’m just saying that just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t good and especially doesn’t mean you have to shit talk it
lost agate
Nah, im not shit talking, just giving arguments
Reasons why i dont think its needed, thats how this chat works
lucid marsh
Ok, thought you were, sorry
lost agate
Its on pins smh
lucid marsh
That link doesn’t work on mobile >:[
hollow shell
It's Blackout's pin about how counterarguments don't equal attacks
lucid marsh
Oh ok. Yeah sorry
hollow shell
It's alright
jovial spire
Make a blood moon garenteed or have the moon be red during boss rush
: Well, for those who don't catch up on the lore much, Xeroc is the one commentating during the boss rush, which means he is most likly looking at what is going on, and when Xeroc stares at the world, he causes a blood moon. But during the boss rush, the moon stays normal which dosnt make too much sence. It probally wouldnt be too terribly hard to put in and it would make it more lore freindly. It should also be made sure that it dosnt double the stats of the bosses.
jovial spire
Cultist lore hints at it and fabsol
radiant meadow
ah
jovial spire
Well the blood moon lore that cultist drops
dusty stirrup
provi and donuts
Also uh it basically doubles enemy stats so that might need to be changed
but yeah makes sense
jovial spire
Yeah ill include that real quick to not double enemy stats
its always been a peeve of mine personally
untold gulch
mhm good idea
ashen warren
Yes
untold gulch
i'd like to show the rock maker my talents
ashen warren
Who is the rock maker
jovial spire
Xeroc?
jovial spire
Xeroc is mostly energy and dosnt really have a shape
Since he can shapeshift
His main preffered for is moth like though
ashen warren
But anyways, the reason I came to this channel
I came here to rant- er, ask about my 66 star suggestion
jovial spire
only one of yours i see has 61 stars
ashen warren
It's very far back
dusty stirrup
His waifu vanity costumes suggestion
jovial spire
inb4 people go "whos xeroc" if the suggestion gets popular
ashen warren
Yes
sinful violet
alpine copper
And all of the mod lore is in the wiki?
Lol
We should make a book or a comic out of it
sinful violet
not all of it
some released details are true, but not ingame, and therefore not on the wiki
alpine copper
So were do you guys have all the lore?
sinful violet
sometimes its discussed here n there, but there's no real place where it's all gathered
if you have questions, you can ask people in #calamity-mod-talk
they're... usually? right
if it's confusing, just ask me
alpine copper
Suggestion:
Make a channel were all the calamity lore is stored just like enigma does
sinful violet
mm
alpine copper
Actually im gonna copy paste that
sinful violet
lore discussion/compilation channels have been asked about before
lilac would know best
alpine copper
Still posting it, you never know what can happen
hollow shell
in-game lore isn't the only lore on the wiki
all of the forum post's lore is one the wiki
@alpine copper You tellin me you need more than this?
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Lore#Boss_Lore
sinful violet
Oh, I meant stuff that’s like, beyond the forum as well, I guess
Stuff like xeroc being flesh moth god, and draedon’s design
frail mantle
Is this a meme suggestion
vestal elbow
proven tide
@broken bloom exqueese?
broken bloom
Unique interactions & memes in one go i guess