kind of sad that suggestions that help actually increase the quality of the mod get way less than suggestions that are like add even more content beacause increased quality is what calamity mod lacks as of rigth now
#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
hollow shell
ikr
charred gate
So, how long does it usually take for sent suggestions to be discussed by the devs?
hollow shell
Everybody wants cool weapons and accessories
It's harder to think up fixes and improvements
charred gate
Actually, as suggested previously, there should be a reaction that indicates if a suggestion is rejected.
hollow shell
or, maybe not harder, just less fun
We've already talked about that and it won't happen, because suggestions typically aren't discussed by devs, and very few are outright rejected
charred gate
Oh.
Okay.
It's just kinda killing me, not knowing how mine are doing since being sent. I suppose it's because there's probably a massive backlog though.
hollow shell
Sorry to say, but I think they're just sitting there in the dev server alongside all the other 65 Star suggestions
I don't think it's very likely they'll be noticed or implemented
charred gate
I guess.... What's even the point of suggesting stuff then?
You guys already determine balance changes and such.
ashen warren
It stops people from complaining in the other channels tbh
hollow shell
It's a better system than before.
As in, before the Star system.
Before, it was both a suggesting channel and a discussing channel. Very unorganized and nothing ever got noticed
Now there is a chance
charred gate
Yeah, there's a chance for stuff to get noticed, but that's only in here. Once it gets sent it might as well have never been noticed, and the suggester has no way of knowing what has happened to their idea.
hollow shell
After it gets delivered, that is
hollow shell
The only post-delivery thing is the checkered flag, which is it getting implemented
devout seal
I don't think any of my suggestions have ever gotten the checkered flag, tbh.
gusty geode
I think I've seen maybe 3 that ever actually got the flag
The funny part was that one of them wasn't even qualified for the dev server yet
devout seal
Nope, none of my suggestions have gotten the flag
hollow shell
Yeah they get flags if the thing it suggests just so happens to get implemented
charred gate
And then there's all the people whose suggestions HAVE gotten sent but not implemented, and they don't know if they got rejected, or why if they were.
Which, I fully acknowledge, is a TON of work.
hollow shell
Again, very rare that a suggestion gets flat-out rejected
Even rarer than implementation
sweet grove
I had suggestions for things like mini cryogens and stuff but everything has already been taken now that i acutally have them planned
devout seal
A mini cryogen was added because cooper got dev status.
and that's what he's known for, his mini cryogen.
charred gate
I should clarify and rephrase myself. By rejected, I mean ignored and such.
sweet grove
Ive had that thing planned for months
hollow shell
Hard to give a reason why something got ignored 
sweet grove
And its already taken
devout seal
Cooper had it planned since around the time L0st started making ALL of the astral tiles.
sweet grove
Curse you calamity and you being well developed
hollow shell
It's okay
devout seal
and that was like..
a year ago?
gusty geode
What if there was a sort of second trial for suggestions once they reach the dev server
Either the whole team or a selected group would star suggestions as they came in, and if they got enough in there they would be posted in a different channel accompanied by an @ everyone ping so the whole team could see it
devout seal
Indeed it does, cooper did a good job.
agile cloud
A repost from october last year that got 58 stars
Pins
A pre-hardmode equivalent to the emblems
Ranger Pin Crafted from 3 gold/platinum bars and 5 iron/lead bars + Any ranged weapon
Warrior Pin Crafted from 3 gold/platinum bars and 5 iron/lead bars + Any melee weapon
Mage pin Crafted from 3 gold/platinum bars and 5 iron/lead bars + Any mage weapon
Summoner pin Crafted from 3 gold/platinum bars and 5 iron/lead bars + Any summon weapon (Sentries count)
Rogue pin Crafted from 3 gold/platinum bars and 5 iron/lead bars + Any rogue weapon
All pins give +5% Damage to their respective classes
charred gate
I guess to me it just feels like only half of the process even exists in a functional form.
agile cloud
Any thoughts?
sweet grove
Good
devout seal
I'm surprised that this suggestion hasn't gotten anything yet.
sweet grove
Its short, simple, and a general increse
agile cloud
so i should repost?
sweet grove
Ye
hollow shell
Does it have a green check? @agile cloud
agile cloud
Oh, ok
gusty geode
I just think more manpower is all you'd need to fix the problem with suggestions
I imagine you'd need 3 people max watching over incoming ideas, making sure every one of them gets seen
ashen warren
my suggestion almost has 65 nice
sweet grove
Elysion Shield
Summon damage 180
Disc: "it feels like molten wiring" summons a black and white knight, with a small lance and shield to attack enemys
White: rams enemys with the lance, firing small lasers from time to time, does 10% more damaged in the hallow biome
Black: attacks slow with a shield that fires a small last prism like beam, does 10% more damage in the corruption and crimson
Too much?
runic mesa
Seems good to me
sonic quest
to what?
young fog
if I had to make a guess, either Runescape or Hollow Knight
sweet grove
Neither
Its a reference to digimon
To be specific, its a reference to two of Gallantmon's attacks
Lightning joust, and shield of the just (also known as Final ELYSION)
ashen warren
Ngl it feels lazy
Not much thought et cetera
It's just a minion with contact damage and a last prism
sweet grove
Take it how you want, and it doesnt need a reason to be there or be a thing... Ive learned that many times
terse rain
Here's a tip:
Don't write suggestions just for the sake of writing suggestions
Make sure there is actually a reason to have what you're suggesting
-the pins
rapid pivot
wot
'It doesn't need a reason to be there, or be a thing'?
You do realize that, y'know, suggestions are things that require effort to put in, right?
To add to the mod?
Things that I'm sure the devs hear a LOT of every day? You think they enjoy having their time wasted for suggestions that don't have a point to them?
rapid pivot
Sorry.
ashen warren
my suggestion needs 1 more for 65 nice
ashen warren
Sorry to break it to you, but that means absolutely nothing
rose moat
ok
ashen warren
Tbh that's a good suggestion, I see no flaws and it would be a nice touch.
No flaws other than nice formatting 
terse sundial
My problem with that is the fact that they would need to go ahead and make it a third main phase to SCal in order to change sprites. It's a nice idea, but it isn't very practical. coming from both a wiki and coding perspective
ashen warren
Why would a whole new phase be required?!
terse sundial
You can't just change sprites in Terraria without a phase change
radiant meadow
I mean, if you don't show prov in a cocoon, you don't show 1% SCal tbf
ashen warren
Sounds very inefficient.
terse sundial
Blame vanilla code
ashen warren
fucking relogic italian grandmother
you cant fuck relogic's italian grandmother
why not?
illegam
Imagine following the law 
oshit
rich inlet
its been 3 days and its still not delivered
hollow shell
Which suggestion?
rich inlet
The sink one
im joking btw
hollow shell
It took us three days to make that potato salad.
rich inlet
potato salad
ashen warren
Wait what did it get in?
worthy compass
has anyone ever been in an "armageddon" battle and got killed by an enemy that isn't involved in any way with the boss?
I don't know if it is a feature or not, but I wouldn't see the point in keeping this in the mechanic
vestal elbow
enemies still spawn before the boss 
ashen warren
There's also a nohitter that died in between the sentinels fight on doggo
After hive mind most enemies are fodder anyway
you can still get distracted and get yoted by one of them
Looks like pre-zen
tiny rivet
armageddon is mostly used during nohits and in a nohit getting hit by any source counts as getting hit which is why armageddon does that
ashen warren
that's post-zen
huh?
zen effect doesn't apply when a boss isn't alive
slime spawned before boss spawned
Wow nice 
Loser has a good point though.
worthy compass
has it been suggested yet?
worthy compass
yes
worthy compass
pls
i need reasons
ruby cobalt
"open your eyes lmao"
worthy compass
is this the reason
ruby cobalt
that's literally the reason why it won't be implemented
you know what you're signing up for, all dumb mistakes you do are on you
worthy compass
seems fair
low remnant
I feel like the Armoured Digger needs interesting drops
it's a pain to kill and drops nothing useful at all
keen oxide
whoopie cushion mk2
ashen warren
It would be nice if it was a farming mini-boss, for essence, bars and other things like that
It's very.. boring as-is
low remnant
mmh
ashen warren
I can't think of anything new for it
ashen warren
It's just all 3 of the mech bosses but buffed
keen oxide
OMG
ashen warren
Why not just, summon all 3 normally?
keen oxide
make armored digger drop chlorophyte
low remnant
I know. Hallowed bars are easy enough to farm as is and one usually has enough souls at that point. The only reason you'd want the remote is for an extra challenge
doesn't fit the palette of it, but maybe...?
ashen warren
It would need another resprote
low remnant
Chlorophyte isn't used a lot post-plantera
ashen warren
Ravager is weird ngl
keen oxide
Shroomite, spectral
ashen warren
Chloro is used in mage armor
keen oxide
Ammo
low remnant
shroomite or spectral bars might make sense
keen oxide
Plus other mods also use gazillion of chlorophyte
ashen warren
Calamity isn't "other mods"
keen oxide
I know I know
low remnant
I feel like it should drop some of its armour... given the name?
low remnant
but then what that would do/make I wouldn't have the faintest clue
keen oxide
IDEA
rustic ember
I say move it to post ML and make it drop luminite
keen oxide
Make he drop some kind of ore that can be mixed with green plantera hearts for chlorophyte
low remnant
or potentially, it drops luminite post-ML
but otherwise doesn't and drops a lesser bar, something like Astral
ashen warren
luminite farm
Yea uh, not gonna happen
The devs are fully aware folks want one from the stupid amount of suggestions for it
keen oxide
Maybe make said ore be mixable with other tiers of materials for more ores
ashen warren
It hasn't happened, so they aren't doing it.
low remnant
hmm
keen oxide
Maybe call it "metallic scrap" or something
ashen warren
Mining is already undermined in calamity
low remnant
pinnacle of comedy
keen oxide
I just want a better way to get huge amounts of chlorophyte that is more interesting than buying the bars and less boring that drill the jungle again and again and again
ashen warren
Chloro mining only needs like 1 trip
low remnant
suppose it could just drop weapons, or potentially a new part of the spawner for Aureas
ashen warren
Unless it's mage anyway
Chlorophyte was always designed to be tedious
It's the last real farm calamity leaves
I can see why it seems painful compared to everything else
ashen warren
Aureus is whenever you want, progression-wise it's post-levi.
Locking aureus and therefore deus behind plant is probably not gonna happen since that was removed
low remnant
when you say 'behind' I assume you mean post-Plantera, not pre-?
ashen warren
Behind is almost always post
Behind as in, beat plant to get behind it
And continue progression et cetera
low remnant
mmmh, I always thought of that as 'getting past an enemy'
but anyway
Armoured Digger Mask
allows you to burrow through blocks
ashen warren
0.001% drop rate that's not affected by defiled but it gives no-clip
low remnant
unfortunately, no meme suggestions
ashen warren
Actually no-clip would be pretty weak now that I think about it
low remnant
although I don't think an item that allowed you to burrow through blocks is a bad idea
^
civic rampart
low remnant
well, hmm. Yharon's projectiles and Aureus ones explode on the ground, I think
mightn't be a well-balanced suggestion
ashen warren
Try using it on yharon
Like actually visualize the beast that is yharon
He would just ram you
tiny rivet
isn’t the armoured digger sprite like a mini DoG, if so wouldn’t it be more sensical to make it drop cosmilite post Yharon p1 or somewhere along those lines, that way you still need to grind DoG but there’s also a method to farm that’s shorter once you’ve surpassed the point you really would need cosmilite
low remnant
pfft who needs a noclip item just have a terraria server up and running and bingo
ashen warren
Not DoG any more
low remnant
used to be, now its got a similar palette to the Mech Bosses
tiny rivet
sad, rest in piece devourer of small bois
low remnant
specifically the Texture pack's Destroyer
ashen warren
low remnant
(by which I mean the resprite for the texture pack)
tiny rivet
wow that looks pretty sick
Idk what to contribute then, it could maybe have dynamic drops based on boss kills
low remnant
maybe it drops something like an upgrade to everyone's favourite Phase Saber
ashen warren
"It would be nice if it was a farming mini-boss, for essence, bars and other things like that"
- me
low remnant
essence of Cinder, I think makes sense
tiny rivet
every boss after, it drops the predecessor’s materials, so killing plantera would cause it to drop hallowed bars, killing golem would cause it to drop chlorophyte and rarely its upgrade class variants, etc etc
tiny rivet
Yeah but while it may be a miniboss it can still spawn quite often and if we give it crazy drops it could potentially be abused for really strong farms
tiny rivet
Ohh, i mean it did fill the niche of it being a source of bars, maybe on top of the dynamic bar drops it has dynamic essence/core drops
After the first mechboss it can drop around 5 of a certain essence, with cinder and eleum having higher chances than chaos due to them being rarer
After golem it’ll begin to drop cores, again with the bias towards cinder and eleum
After providence (maybe post buffed calamitas clone) it’ll drop cores of calamity
The drops won’t overwrite each other unlike the bar drops but the lesser materials get lower drops
so it’d probably be like post providence
Essences < Cores of Calamity < Cores that aren’t Calamity
ashen warren
Massively buff Crabulon post-Plantera but make it drop Shroomite Bars to get them easier
Give it like 120,000 HP and 300 damage per hit
rich inlet
I mean its all decided by fab so whatever
Think like this
300 = 1/3 scal’s bullet from her bullet hell
And crabulon has a very rapid atk speed and a very fast velocity
novel surge
900lul
rich inlet
Maybe make the attacks actually homing like aureus?
its all decided by fab then again
ashen warren
which attacks
rich inlet
The ones shot from crabby’s body
ashen warren
novel surge
Tbh I just got all my glowing mushrooms from accidentally destroying them in my mushroom biome bubble so farmming them was pretty easy for me
icy kelp
Instead of shroomite just make it drop chlorophyte because glowing mushrooms drop from him already and chloro would be player friendly
novel surge
chlorophyte from a mushroom boss wouldn't make much sense tbh
ashen warren
Still, there are Red Debils post-Plantera that deal like 300 damage per shot, so a buffed boss whose projectiles are destructible should punish players for not taking care of them.
rich inlet
Red devil is like
But like
You don’t really go to hell post plant
Just like you don’t really go to dungeon pre-skeletron
ashen warren
It's safe to assume that players at this point in the game have 15% damage reduction from Endurance and Yharim's drugs when fighting bosses
Red devils are post one mech
ashen warren
Scourge of the cosmos lol
frail mantle
rich inlet
just saw the calamity merch suggestion
I think it’d be great but who’s gonna do it is the question
I want a scal plushie
rustic ember
crabulon plushie
rich inlet
Imagine if you get a free random plushie irl for getting hollowed role
Everybody that has skill:
hollow shell
SCal would definitely be a plastic toy with a button on top that makes her crystal eye thing flash
rich inlet
Lol
worthy fiber
I can imagine a McDonalds toy
rich inlet
Yharon will be a fluffy figure that has a button on it which lets it vomit out yellow fluffy balls
Yharon + bumblebirb 999 in 1
ashen warren
Archmage body pillow
worthy fiber
rich inlet
archmage icicle clay figure
delicate raft
Um, why?
Just fight Queen Bee til you get it
With that reason just add a crafting recipe to every necessary boss drop smh
cyan lagoon
some people would rather not use alchemistnpc
so that's more of a moot point if anything, Blackouts
agile cloud
Fair
delicate raft
Still there is not actual reason for that recipe
If the Witch Doctor didn't sell the spawn item then there would be
cyan lagoon
Yeah, especially since you could just get it on your first kill regardless
(relating to bee's wax, not the honeycomb)
since she can drop more than 20
delicate raft
👌
cyan lagoon
agile cloud
As i stand corrected
cyan lagoon
on normal
rustic ember
@ashen warren more explanation?
ashen warren
It's the least of concerns iirc
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren resprites are not of priority
and as everyone else said you gotta be more specific than that
rustic ember
Seems legit
rich inlet
please don’t spawn in face crabulon does no damage until you attack
What is boss info items even
rustic ember
Some things just can't be explained
frail mantle
i think he means that the lore items should match up with the game's lore
rustic ember
They do don't they?
frail mantle
yep
rich inlet
The weird thing is that boss can’t just be afraid of us is a suggestion
cold terrace
Why tho
frail mantle
i mean, vanilla Terraria doesn't really have any lore
rich inlet
That way Every single boss should have crawltipede AI but you don’t need to be flying
frail mantle
it's just...there
rich inlet
cyan lagoon
alright you don't need to bash him for the suggestions
rich inlet
I’m just confused about the whole can’t be afraid of us thing
cyan lagoon
it's his character
Crabulon is actually really shy and if you look away he runs away from you
rich inlet
will he still drop the bag?
cyan lagoon
why wouldn't he
rich inlet
Now this just sounds like a joke or is it already one I just didn’t get it in time
ashen warren
Maybe a bad translator. My English is still terrible, but people never notice because of autocorrect.
gusty geode
hollow shell
@ashen warren Gonna delete that for now. You can post it again if you have more explanation to go along with it
ashen warren
Almost as good as "Some bosses need to be rebalanced"
vestal elbow
It was "some bosses need to be redesigned"
even better
lost agate
@bronze talon isnt that literally photo viscerator?
bronze talon
i guess they are kind of similar but not really
i mean the blaster homes in on enemies, doesn't use ammo, has a different projectile, etc.
hollow shell
Considering we have had numerous exo-gun suggestions already, I would appreciate if you described how the weapon should function, preferably in some unique way to differentiate it from the others
frosty kindle
the best exo gun was defo enreden's "anaera" tbh
bronze talon
alright
hollow shell
Thank you
bronze talon
np
frank stratus
luiafk has a sigil that skips the inpending doom, maybe another item in calamity then?
radiant meadow
Calamity doesn't have a special item
but like, skipping impending doom has been suggested many times before iirc
frank stratus
o
fervent zealot
@ashen warren i mean fargo's split so the content is all a separate mod so like your point is like
invalid
hollow shell
It's called Celestial Sigil
frank stratus
?
hollow shell
It doesn't, he is suggesting that
hollow shell
Also yes it has been suggested many times but it only reached the required stars in August
so no bluecheck
ashen warren
also @fervent zealot "Some people dont like the other content it adds"
fervent zealot
@ashen warren the other content was moved to another mod
fargo's mutant mod is literally just the 3 npcs and a select few other items
if you're such a purist you can't stand that much then off with you
ashen warren
Sad cannon
Post Duke magic weapon
Fires a high velocity tear, which upon hitting an enemy creates more tears that fall from the sky.
All projectiles inflict temporal sadness, deal more damage in the rain, and other wet environments, the ocean, abyss or mushroom biome.
Crafted with a bubble gun, teardrop cleaver and grenade launcher.
Why? There is no way for magic users to inflict temporal sadness, a rather unique debuff.
hollow shell
2 ways?
ashen warren
Biome blade, and teardrop cleaver?
hollow shell
Statis's Blessing and its upgrades
vestal elbow
Fargo's Lite Mod when 
ashen warren
What about a ranged weapon/ ammo that has a similar effect to evil eye from binding of isaac, inflicting temporal sadness? Instead of bullets, it shoots an ultra low velocity eyeball, that shoots tears at enemies
So, like a summon?
Er no. The bullets themselves would fire the tears, so in order to deal max damage, you would have to miss
The exact opposite of ranged then.
Chlorophyte bullets are a thing
You'll notice they have less damage to compensate
Made a suggestion on the 16th... apparently has 32 stars and wasnt even 100% serious... about 80% or so but not fully... if this gets added im gonna scream
hollow shell
wh
frank stratus
the wa
hollow shell
you need 65 stars for the devs to see it
frank stratus
oh
yeah if you don't get a burst of suggestions it's probably gonna stay like that so it's fine XD
ashen warren
Oof
radiant meadow
the limit a few months ago was 35 stars and you didn't even reach that
hollow shell
frank stratus
lmao
ashen warren
smh just make the limit 2 stars
frank stratus
my suggestion has 7 checks but it's like in gulag tho
dusty stirrup
hasty wigeon
Pretty sure extra checks don't mean anything?
fervent zealot
the more checks you have the bigger your style points
hollow shell
@sacred thorn Please elaborate
sacred thorn
elaborate?
ashen warren
I'm guessing the fact that the prism is held sideways
hollow shell
As in, explain your suggestion more
hasty wigeon
Except that it isn't really
Tbh last prism is sideways
XD
(To how Real prisms work)
ashen warren
It's a direct reference to the dark side of the moon album art
hollow shell
Dark Spark
Last Prism
It is indeed not going to change,
because of that thing Sequence said
fervent zealot
spark is actually correcter than prism as well™
sacred thorn
huh alright
radiant meadow
ye, Vorbis specifically didn't want that
sacred thorn
oh ok
hybrid ocean
i think last prism should have a smaller sprite like the last prism, but sideways of course
maybe with some light ray coming out of the player or something hitting the prism
ashen warren
The last prism is a timewarp tbh, it does it in reverse
Dark spark is actually accurate
..Well kinda
This is still a fantasy game
Dark spark clearly better than last prism, it is not the last prism, and dark spark rhymes
radiant meadow
@cold terrace assuming this is the same recipe as ironskin pot except lead ore, you might want to say that in the suggestion
and also, say maybe that ironskin can't be used with lead anymore
cold terrace
Yeah, I accidentally pressed enter
radiant meadow
hollow shell
It's a 50/50 shot of Iron and Lead in the world, why would Lead's potion be more powerful?
cold terrace
Lead is slightly better than iron
radiant meadow
because of the thingy about one version being slightly better
like adamantite vs titanium
cold terrace
I also challenged myself to come up with a skin pun that involved lead
ashen warren
""slightly"" "adamantite vs titanium"
radiant meadow
ok, maybe that was a bad example
cold terrace
I might just make it myself
tough trail
@reef swift Lul Calamity making weapons more powerful, good luck with that one
reef swift
Oh yeah
cold terrace
It's not a weapon, thats the point
ashen warren
>Cause it would be nice
You really thought about that suggestion huh?
tough trail
I could see it as a seperate mod, but Calamity would never include something like that
reef swift
Yeah but the fact that king slime drops a hook, crafting station, armor, and vanity weapon seems kinda off
hollow shell
It could
Not even the fact that it's Slime Gun
the fact that all of the Statigel weapons inflict it
a late-PreHM set
reef swift
Wait wHAT
reef swift
Lemme check
tough trail
several people are typing
fervent zealot
gambit needs the buff tbh
ashen warren
It's king slime, you can kill him with a wet noodle.
reef swift
Actually yeah
ashen warren
Of course it's a vanity wep
reef swift
I forgot boss progression for a minute
ashen warren
Gelitic Blade inflicts slimed, God's Gambit does and Gel darts do
The others don't as they don't change ammo
Overloaded Blaster does inflict slime iirc
hollow shell
It does
hollow shell
It could get slightly nerfed to compensate
reef swift
Wait wha
hollow shell
He does indeed
reef swift
I farmed glowing mushrooms for so long
ashen warren
reef swift
Omfg
hollow shell
His summoning item requires nearly as many mushrooms to craft so you've gotta buy em
unless you want much slower returns
ashen warren
Or use arma
reef swift
hollow shell
Oh right
ashen warren
While crabulon does drop his own trove of the mushroom stuff, something that drops from those useless enemies would be nice.
Other than that freaken carapace anyways
quick dove
wasnt there a suggestion for crabulon to get big buffed and start dropping shroomite once plantera dies
sonic quest
Ya it was yesterday or today iirc
hollow shell
sleek wigeon
@ashen warren what other content?
hollow shell
Top Hat Squirrels and nettable NPCs?
ashen warren
Fargo's mod was split, the boss summons are separate to stuff like souls
So not really any "other content"
fervent zealot
i mean i already told the guy that twice but he didn't seem to care
hollow shell
When did the split happen?
fervent zealot
months ago
hollow shell
Must have been after my last playthrough cuz I know it was just one mod then
... can't remember exactly when that playthrough was but it was relatively recent
It was after the Astral revamp, I know that
hollow shell
Ah
hardy wing
imagine people still hating on fargos after the split they all asked for
fervent zealot
people be dum
hollow shell
I didn't know the split happened and I don't think Zevix did either
fervent zealot
after i told him about it more than once?
hollow shell
iunno, if he didn't know any of the details then there'd still be a chance some undesirable stuff is in the summoning item version
from his pov
fervent zealot
i literally told him split only had the 3 npcs and some small qol things
hollow shell
🤷
untold gulch
idea
fervent zealot
what a good non meme suggestion
sinful violet
gonna delete that first message.
fervent zealot
second's also a repost so
untold gulch
already suggested
if you scroll up a bit you can see the first one
that's not a suggestion
fervent zealot
@gentle lark don't discuss suggestions there, discuss them here
ashen warren
@radiant meadow we have a yes here
gentle lark
bold font how?
bitter topaz
is this the new suggestions god?
brave warren
you have great ideas btw
fervent zealot
scoocy no don't encourage them
gentle lark
ok
radiant meadow
#sugges\
gentle lark
so crabulon idea is a no?
radiant meadow
#suggestions-voting is not the place to ask
brave warren
no
fervent zealot
it was already posted recently
radiant meadow
and it's not a meme suggestion
gentle lark
ok
radiant meadow
but someone posted it earlier today and maybe I shouldn't have deleted it
hollow shell
You shouldn't have.
radiant meadow
Well, it's late at night and I was in the middle of something else
sinful violet
smh
radiant meadow
ye, I'm sorry about that
sinful violet
oh well
radiant meadow
but like, don't ask for help there
sinful violet
we have the suggestion logged anyhow iirc
hollow shell
There's no rule against makin a suggestion that somebody else made recently
sinful violet
its been suggested a few times
fervent zealot
there isn't?
thought there was a no reposts until like a week or something
radiant meadow
reposts from the same person
sinful violet
For the same person
hollow shell
@gentle lark Could you give a reason why?
fervent zealot
o
gentle lark
cool idea
sinful violet
Because chibi knifes
radiant meadow
probably because they want brimmy, bear, fox, and more all at the same time
rich inlet
chibii more like jumpscares
hollow shell
You can have both Levi and Siren at the same time, you know
gentle lark
but what if i like other pet too
hollow shell
Baby Siren is a Light Pet
Baby Levi is a regular Pet
radiant meadow
but having Levi means you can't have Bear
gentle lark
hmmph
fervent zealot
brb suggesting that in a more appropriate place
radiant meadow
Apoth server
fervent zealot
feed chibii to not get stabbied
dusty stirrup
instead you get omega chibii
gentle lark
too much hassle
sharp helm
Yes
hollow shell
@fervent zealot Triploon has an "L" because of how its incorporating "Triple"
"Dualpoon" doesn't
so "Quadpoon" shouldn't either
The other two are ok tho
fervent zealot
honestlyitsoundsbetterthatway
hollow shell
I disagree
hollow shell
There is no "L" in "Quadruple"
fervent zealot
.
hollow shell
well OKAY
fervent zealot
quadrupLe
hollow shell
not
in the
that position
You could do "Quadroon" but that might be straying too far from the harpoon
gentle lark
quadruploon
hollow shell
that too
gentle lark
quadrupoon?
hollow shell
nah you can then have the L if you do it like that
fervent zealot
quadruploon
sharp helm
Anyways yeah, that'd be glorious. Mostly because I brought up the idea of the Quadpoon in another server. We need more harpoons. We don't have enough harpoons. Harpoonsssssssss
fervent zealot
^ but it is true and ranged does need non bow love postml
ashen warren
Harpoon weapons are high dps but low range, how viable is mourningstar again?
hardy wing
Wait why isn’t dualpoon called doubloon
fervent zealot
FUCK HE'S RIGHT
suggesting that right now
gentle lark
YES
delicate raft
Lol
ashen warren
Doubloons are pirate currency..
ashen warren
That's... a terrible correlation imo
hardy wing
but it sounds cool 😎
ancient dragon
Bit of a stretch, but would fit if it was more properly pirate-themed.
hardy wing
Alexis begone
fervent zealot
besides, triploon is made with abyss shit anyways
gentle lark
how about doubloon is dropped by a buffed flying dutchman?
radiant meadow
I think you're taking this a bit too far
gentle lark
ok
radiant meadow
It's still called Dualpoon
hardy wing
not for long
radiant meadow
the last suggestion doesn't really fit
hollow shell
Don't drop em.
sharp helm
Soon enough we'll have a centuploon and a milluploon
gentle lark
INFIPOON
ashen warren
How about Farpoon
jovial spire
Termiploon
charred gate
What about a carpoon where it has a Honda Civic instead of the usual stabby thing?
ashen warren
This is becoming meme-like, don't do the 170 bees thing again
mystic glade
why it so much that when one person suggests something other people pretty much say same thing but with different stats and stuff like that
charred gate
Because people have no originality.
cyan lagoon
Actually ^^
hardy wing
what do the stars and exclamation mean
vestal elbow
cyan lagoon
📌 's
hardy wing
I’ve literally never seen this channel
hollow shell
lol
hardy wing
I checked description smh
hardy wing
I see
cyan lagoon
Fargo why dont you ask fab directly for that
You do have access to cooldude channels afterall
hardy wing
True ™
arctic wren
Why did you even bother putting it into suggestions if you're just gonna code it for fab anyway 
hollow shell
He'll do the code if it gets accepted :P
tired haven
Gonna star it for someone to regret tis decision 
faint rivet
hollow shell
Hell yeah I'm starrin it
faint rivet
Same
hardy wing
sinful violet
wait but don't some melee weapons have a right click
like that OOA one
staffy thing
hardy wing
In the inventory I mean
hollow shell
Like opening a treasure bag
except the melee weapon opens to reveal a rogue weapon
and the rogue weapon also has a melee weapon inside
tired haven
I don't think any melee weps that do have right click are acceptable for rogue currently
tired haven
Yeah, the ones that have 2 copies only different in damage type
hollow shell
yeah
hollow shell
Fargo has direct contact with Fab, dw
rich inlet
Ikr
hollow shell
cuz he's a cooldude
lost agate
tired haven
fab doesn't read the suggestion channel
I myself have seen him reading it twice at least
In one of these times copper hammer was added into treasure bag
tired haven
tired haven
but are you fabulous is the real question
rich inlet
not fabulous enough to make the grand thunderbird flee on purpose
tired haven
rich inlet
suffering from success crabbar version
spiral olive
nice suggestion fargo 
tulip fulcrum
I like the suggestion, makes things simple and doesn't make you regret crafting or getting a rogue weapon when you need a melee weapon
And vice versa
ashen warren
Honestly the doubloon suggestion is something i have thought about for a while, it also makes it sound piratey
reef mountain
ideas?
radiant meadow
why so late in the game?
I don't know about you, but I generally make the diving suit shortly after killing clone or plant
rich inlet
Same, also maybe just make the non-buffed AS drop arctic diving gear would be enough since you don’t always get ice pyramids(even if you do, there’s chances for other loots)
mental path
Just farm for the diving gear man
arctic gear is pretty easy to make, other stuff is from abyss chests
for depth cells i zerg the abyss and for lumenyl i zerg the dungeon
rich inlet
I zerg in abyss floor 3 so I get both
mental path
That's literally suicide
ashen warren
Adult Eidolon Wyrm Has Awoken!
rich inlet
Thats called RoD
ashen warren
Yea nvm.
"The Adult Eidolon Wyrm spawns in the same two layers after Polterghast has been defeated, but is much rarer."
reef mountain
but this thing is not worth the grind at all until post-polterghast. trust me.
after polterghast it's still pretty trashy.
ashen warren
It's only slightly more useful than most waterbreathing accs
The suit is aight though
reef mountain
to be honest this thing feels like a pushover grind that have to be crafted in order to get the suit, which is why i suggested this.
devout seal
That just seems unnecesary
ashen warren
Tbh I don't think anything needs to happen with the abyss stuff since it's a 25 minute at worst farm
Making it take like 5 minutes instead seems unnecessary
ashen warren
your sprites are looking nicer and nicer
frail mantle
thank
sonic quest
I like it ouo
placid girder
more vanity in general sounds nice
sonic quest
Earth elemental vanity set 🤤
faint rivet
Earth elemental isn't a waifu 
sonic quest
All elementals are waifus
faint rivet
sonic quest
🤠
faint rivet
Disagreed
opal barn
@mental path is that a meme i smell with my nostrils
quick dove
👃
mental path
maybe...
opal barn
Well then, I'll take it as a yes
ashen warren
good job starring your own suggestion
opal barn
Don't post dumb suggestions again or you will be warned
mental path
aye aye captain
sonic quest
6 stars away from 65 on muh suggestion hnng
meager robin
5*
torn creek
Hey uh, on the wiki I think there's a typo, for the fabsol vodka it says "dispute" instead of despite. Is that intentional?
It's in the notes section
I'm not really sure where to post this
ashen warren
sounds like a typo ye
round falcon
Patience
hybrid ocean
should i suggest an indicator for bosses when they are off-screen? it can be annoying to just shoot aimlessly because you can't see them
also Small Screen Gang ™
ashen warren
Map?
hybrid ocean
that isn't as precise tho
ashen warren
I mean a indicator wouldn't be either
hybrid ocean
it would help you aim while still paying attention to the fight, and maps can be distracting
should i post it?
frail mantle
if it's well reasoned and thought-out, yes
ashen warren
If it's as godlike as saying some bosses need to be redesigned then no
hardy wing
my first suggestion 100 stars
delicate raft
lol
faint rivet
Grats Fargo 
rich inlet
Both my bookcase and sink suggestion hit 65 stars
ashen warren
@opal barn and suggestions
drowsy valley
my suggestion is slowly racking up the stars. it's at 23 now
frail mantle
self-starring 
drowsy valley
to add a bit of information: i'm not meaning to replace a mechanic that's in the game for a reason. this is just an alternative method to get your weapon you want, crafting recipe will be insanely high tho. to provide a better example: to craft the Vesuvius you need 1000 hellstone bars and 500 lava waders.
ruby cobalt
500 lava waders, yeah.
frail mantle
using multiple accessories of the same type in a recipe sounds like a pretty bad idea
ruby cobalt
This is good suggestion.
dusty stirrup
thank you very cool!
ashen warren
I self star after 65 lmao
fervent zealot
i self star when nobody's looking
fervent zealot
alright nobody's looking at fargo's suggestion time to self star™
ashen warren
lost agate
Cease
plucky skiff
Because its a rev mode drop
elder sparrow
scourge of the desert isnt that op
it's good yes but not op
not a legendary type drop either
so why is it rev+ only
simple sigil
Did the SecondComingofPenguin person just not read any guidelines for suggestions before posting his suggestions?
fossil torrent
Scourge of the Oceans is really good imo
Decent sprite, doesn’t seem hard to code and would be a really great addition
frail mantle
terse sundial
Adding a Rogue weapon to AS best boss is one of the greatest suggestions I've read. Nice work on that sprite!
subtle blaze
ah
young fog
or revengeace and defiled / armageddon
hollow shell
(nah it pretty much just means Revengeance and Death)
frail mantle
holy fuk the Scourge of the Oceans has nearly 130 stars
frail mantle
ashen warren
fargo's doesn't have a sprite, that'd be why
frail mantle
hardy wing
sleek wigeon
concrete proof of sprite favoritism tbh
hollow shell
@hardy wing Your suggestion is now delivered. You can contact Fab I guess
If you haven't already
jolly kettle
So uhhhjjj we making swords rouge
hollow shell
Fargo is referring to the Melee/Rogue weapons, Blossom
Like Triactis's Hammer and Eradicator and etc
radiant meadow
@sacred thorn it already does
at least, if it doesn't rn, it'll be in the next update
sacred thorn
ok
hollow shell
@dense girder What the fuck is that duration calculation
dense girder
I don't know it seemed logical at the time and it still does
what would you suggest in the way of a calculation similar in that it increases the duration over time?
hollow shell
Why do you want it to scale?
dense girder
imo: if it doesn't scale it'll be easily outclassed within about 20 minutes of gameplay
having it scale makes it more useful the better your armor is until, ultimately, you find something along the lines of the Primordial Ancient or similar
hollow shell
I mean
Alright sure
s'what you want I guess I shouldn't question
however
actual objective problem:
I'm pretty sure you cannot
inflict enemies with Electrified
dense girder
ah true it only works on moving players
hollow shell
It deals damage even if the player isn't moving
but I just don't think the code for the debuff exists in enemy files
It could probably be done, by Calamity
I've heard of weirder things
would just be a bit of effort
@fervent zealot What do the Lumenyl Crystals and Viper Vines do currently?
Do they both float?
fervent zealot
yep
hollow shell
You should mention that
in fact maybe even report it in #bugs-read-pins cuz that ain't good
dense girder
yeah if that's happening it's more of a bug fix than suggestion
fervent zealot
oh tru tbh those do kinda feel more like bugs on second thought
so what, i just found a series of 3 abyss bugs, ain't that something
dense girder
Crown of Thorns - Hardmode Summoning Weapon
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = "A direct upgrade of the Deepsea Staff and the Seabound Staff. Summons a Crown-of-Thorns Starfish (1.5 summoning slots). These can move very quickly, and can damage enemies not only through contact but also by rapidly shooting thorns that inflict Venom (buffed Lionfish edition)."
🛠 = Created at a Mythril Anvil w/ Deepsea Staff, Seabound Staff, Lumenyl, Beetle Juice, Stingers
= An upgrade to the two worm-based starfish summons would be nice, and a directly more powerful starfish seems the best way to do it.
how's this
ashen warren
i tried to make a weapon that inflicted electrified for my mod, can confirm it does literally nothing against enemies
hollow shell
That's pretty cool, Odditer
ashen warren
That staff is cool, however it seems kind of pointless if you can obtain it the instant you get the second star staff, maybe consider making it obtained later, so each staff has a time to be used
hollow shell
But you know you've gotta make ones for all of the DS/AS equivalent weapons 
dense girder
Challenge accepted
ashen warren
I would change it to be post plantera personally
hollow shell
Depth Cells and Lumenyl, because it's a fish?
dense girder
how about a more abyss-themed recipe?
yeah there it is
🛠 = Created at a Mythril Anvil w/ Deepsea Staff, Seabound Staff, Lumenyl, Stingers
ashen warren
The crown of thorns is a cool idea
hollow shell
(I will never understand the intended usage of Depth Cells, Lumenyl, or Tenebris)
ashen warren
Why beetle juice?
dense girder
I actually don't know
I think in my mind it was "literally like no uses" and "poison i guess"
but that's stupid begone juice
ashen warren
The stingers are good, what about plague cell canisters?
Makes it post-golem
If they want that then sure though
dense girder
Eh, it's not a plague thing
ashen warren
Why does nobody realize that all debuffs are bad except for ichor and betsy's curse
I cant think of anything, personally
Frostburn aint bad, considering bows get it within like 10 minutes of the game
Daybreak and the celled debuff also arent the worst
Currently they're just ramming minions, maybe they should have something that they could do alongside?
hollow shell
Que?
dense girder
thorns
hollow shell
He's suggesting projectiles
dense girder
it shoots thorns
dense girder
Smh incorrect
In large numbers COTS can decimate coral, true
But they also promote the growth of new coral through eating fully developed coral that cannot do any more
In select numbers of course
hollow shell
It's like how forestfires are healthy in the grand scheme
dense girder
^
hollow shell
Ash is good fertilizer
ashen warren
The problem being they arent in select numbers, even in terraria thanks to the summon slot buffs
You're way overthinking this ngl
dense girder
me or him
ashen warren
Thicc
dense girder
thicccccc
ashen warren
😭
dense girder
don't cry it was an honest criticism
ashen warren
I think the starfish sprite should have a couple different possible colors
dense girder
oh yes COTS come in various colors
my favorite is salmon-red body, orange spikes and teal/green limbs
most used to seeing that and looks epic for camouflage
but they can also be lilac with dark red spikes, grey with brown spikes
it'd be cool
ashen warren
ashen warren
Stats: don't matter
hollow shell
(is that second one a video game?)
dense girder
good eye
ashen warren
I think they should be able to fire 2 different ways, like spiked slimes in expert
ashen warren
Single projectile for long range, multiple in a spread for close
dense girder
ahh
hollow shell
Oh hell yeah I owned that as a wee baby
dense girder
ROVEEEEEER I LOVE YOU OMGGG BLESS
If you were a wee baby you don't remember much sadly
But I do tons of work on the endless ocean wikia, check it out sometime, it's my personal pet project
dense girder
yeehaw it's tiring but worth it
dense girder
Crown of Thorns - Hardmode Summoning Weapon
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = "A direct upgrade of the Deepsea Staff and the Seabound Staff. Summons a Crown-of-Thorns Starfish (2 summoning slots). These can move very quickly, and can damage enemies not only through contact but also by rapidly shooting thorns that inflict Venom (buffed Lionfish edition)."
🛠 = Created at a Mythril Anvil w/ Deepsea Staff, Seabound Staff, Lumenyl, Beetle Juice, Stingers
= An upgrade to the two worm-based starfish summons would be nice, and a directly more powerful starfish seems the best way to do it.
anti-scroll repost
hollow shell
I say just post it, seems good
dense girder
yeehaw
i hope the ❔ and 🛠 catch on they're good ideas imo
now to make another sea-based weapon because i've been playing EO2 for 6 hours straight and have nothing better to do
hollow shell
Have fun
ashen warren
It's a spear, spears without projectiles are terrible.
dense girder
who said it wouldn't have projectiles
hollow shell
Abyssal Swordfish
Post-Polterghast
Aww I kinda wanted to keep in the spirit of the current ones
just make it do really high damage
inflict Armor Crunch or something
dense girder
Oh no that's a good idea, an Abyssal One
I was thinkin sum'n dumb like obsidian swordfish + chaotic bars lmao
Crush Depth doesn't affect enemies does it
ah it does i'm stupid
ashen warren
Crush depth scales really badly as it loses damage with defence
ashen warren
..Yes?
dense girder
Oh i see what you mean, higher defense equals less damage
ashen warren
That's what I said
dense girder
armor cronch
ashen warren
I have literally no idea how to make it look spiky but
dense girder
Ooohhhh that looks funky
Couldn't you use a bigger sprite or is there a limit?
Because the COTS is pretty fuckin' big, it'd be a big boy summon too
ashen warren
Yeah im by no means good at spriting, this is just the same as the deepsea staff
ashen warren
How much bigger would it be than the deepsea staff then?
hollow shell
tbf may be a bit hard depicting the boy in sprite form
given the
immense amount of small spikes
hollow shell
That could
look bad
ashen warren
dense girder
yes, it is coyote peterson
ashen warren
Thats twice the size
ashen warren
Weeeeell to my knowledge thats literally what they did for the sprite of the plaguebringer goliath
dense girder
not wrong
hollow shell
... it is indeed not wrong
dense girder
these fucking resprites jesus
"the belly doesn't look good!!!! it not good!!!! >:((("
aka the leviathan resprite
hollow shell
We gotta make sure they're great
so we don't gotta resprite em again :P
sinful violet
time to resprite provi again ngl
dense girder
Abyssal Swordfish - Hardmode Spear
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
❔ = "A massive swordfish straight from the depths. Upon hitting an enemy, inflicts Armor Crunch, Crush Depth, Abyssal Flames and Slow for a few seconds."
🛠 = Created at an Ancient Manipulator w/ Obsidian Swordfish, Swordfish, Reaper Teeth, Tenebris
= Swordfish have been entirely neglected in vanilla and Calamity Terraria, and they deserve some love in the form of a powerful Abyss upgrade.
How's that
ashen warren
Abyssal Flames is scal debuff
dense girder
eh it looked good on the wiki, 125hp per second
sinful violet
also this whole formatting thing's gotten really weird
radiant meadow
huh?
dense girder
also abyssal flames
hollow shell
SCal does inflict it but against the player it's the same as Brimstone Flames
dense girder
bumdumtiss
sinful violet
bad
radiant meadow
I think it's only 25 hp per second
hollow shell
That's just a coincidence