besides, on the Railgun, the supports glow a brighter red when fired to show them heating up
#suggestions-discussion
waxen pike
Why isn’t there a music box for leviathan
fossil torrent
Yup, all music boxes that aren’t already in the game will be added next update.
They haven’t been added yet because they didn’t have sprites.
lost agate
The sprites are still WIP indeed
hollow shell
@fervent zealot Don't forget Shaderain Staff
hollow shell
Nah, that's Shadowdrop Staff
easy to confuse
Shaderain is literally just Nimbus/Crimson Rod
wary lichen
Do you guys know if i can suggest end-game/exoTier weapons reworks?
hollow shell
You can
wary lichen
I posted a Google document here before but i didn't get any feedback, sould i repost it or post it in Suggestions?
fervent zealot
i'd say just post it
hollow shell
Yeah just post in suggestions
Make sure to give a summary of what it is in the message alongside the link
wary lichen
Ok thanks.
tropic yoke
Hey, should I bring back the abyssal billets?
hollow shell
The what?
cold terrace
those sorta resemble grenade shells
ashen warren
What do they do?
wide patrol
Does the lionfish have a tooltip?
tropic yoke
The billets were the first version of the abyssal bar I thought up.
Sorry, I was doing a human thing.
I planned to make suggestions about them involving bullets, furniture so much abyssal furniture, armor, wire related stuff, and maybe weapons.
lean tendon
I am always up to support new bullets 😛
ashen warren
Honestly i thought they were bullets, and you hit the wrong key given how close i and u are
tropic yoke
billet
The long metal pole things used for construction things.
It could also be a bullet, but that'll be something different
fresh harbor
Isn't just "bar" better?
cold terrace
imagine a gun that just shoots fucking girders
ashen warren
Ima steal that
tropic yoke
I made a bar
cold terrace
hey drones heres an idea for you: a post-ml exodium weapon that drops rods from the sky that deal insane damage with a big aoe but are slow to fire and only functions above ground
like rods of god
if u dont know what that is heres a cool wikipedia article 😄 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
charred gate
Guys
I'm stealing this from Calvin and Hobbes a bit
A magic weapon that is shaped like an eye
and it shoots I-beams
sweet grove
Im currently looking into a idea for the ceaseless void... I called it the ceased void... It was going to be another portable chest type item... But i feel it could be better
tropic yoke
Kinetic bombardment is basically the death star beam made out of metal
hmmm
ceased void, lel
I'm gonna make a lil' void minion and post my lil' weaver with it to compliment the cosmilamp
sweet grove
.. I ltterally had planned minions for the storm weaver and ceaseless void....
Plus "lil weaver" and "lil void" both sound more like pets...
What about "Cloud weaver"
ashen warren
If you want pets then check out calamity's vanities
I doubt a worm minion is getting in ever
sweet grove
Thats true...
ashen warren
A dark energy summon weapon sounds like a upgraded herrings tbh
round falcon
we have 2 summons at that tier
sweet grove
It would be a minion summoning minion..
ashen warren
The void itself? no
round falcon
maybe a cv sentry?
sweet grove
Thats.. Kinda what the idea is
round falcon
ah
ashen warren
why does everybody love sentries smh
fervent zealot
same reason everyone loves throwing
sleek wadi
One suggestion I particularly liked for a Ceaseless Void anything was a light pet that always stayed above you and made dark energy orbs above enemies that provided light.
sweet grove
But i thought because there is already enough of them.. I figured another portable chest would be cool
I hate sentrys
charred gate
I'd rather have turret furniture-esque items. Place it and it functions like a sentry.
sleek wadi
So more bunny cannons?
charred gate
No. AI.
ashen warren
dark
provided light
charred gate
Except I say that and realize it would be hell on Terraria's engine.
Starbound can pull it off, but not Terraria.
sweet grove
I think
sleek wadi
Starbound also gets bodied by a fucking door.
ashen warren
It would likely be like the target dummy where there's an invisible entity over the actual block
sweet grove
A cv minion with the ability to suck in items from around your screen would be nice
And funtion as a chest maybe?
sleek wadi
Due to how animations work in Starbound, the Ruin Portal makes the game chug like nothing else.
sweet grove
I mean its a VOID THAT IS TOLD LIKE A BLACKHOLE
ashen warren
Black holes aren't "chests"
charred gate
It hurts my computer more than Subnautica at max graphics
ashen warren
Trying to get something "out" of a black hole is impossible
tropic yoke
Just, very close to.
fervent zealot
does the actual physics behind it matter
ashen warren
As a human with human limits? yes
fervent zealot
it's a fucking video game
sleek wadi
Portable Ceaseless Void trash can 
tropic yoke
Black holes actually radiate matter very slowly
ashen warren
That's hot
tropic yoke
Guys wait... I have an idea...
C.V. chest that behaves like the money trough.
It makes perfect sense.
sleek wadi
The fact that we can even see Dark Energy is an affront to everything we understand so not much is binding CV to physics.
sweet grove
You could use a dyson sphere around the blackhole to make a bomb
tropic yoke
It's got lil' wings, it flies, and it can store things.
sweet grove
Endo
sweet grove
THAT WAS MY IDEA THE ENTIRE TIME YA POTATO
charred gate
pfffft
sleek wadi
For fucks sake its a constantly expanding pocket of unreality that is somehow contained in some kind of magic mirror
tropic yoke
ok
sleek wadi
IT SOMEHOW SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH A GIANT GOD EATING WORM!
sweet grove
Blackholes can be used as bombs
charred gate
Sphere of Holding
Pet that functions like the money trough, but with access to the safe inventory rather than piggy bank. Follows the player.
'We don't know why it connects to your safe.'
There
ashen warren
Mecha, we're off that topic already smh
sweet grove
By bouncing energy from the blackholes rotational energy, it can become a bomb with the explosion of your regular super nova
tropic yoke
Let's stop the physics talk and just make a CV chest idea
sweet grove
Yes
charred gate
I already kinda did
tropic yoke
Terraria doesn't have physics.
sweet grove
What if it also pulled items to itself?
ashen warren
Item vacuum is very overdone QoL stuff wise
tropic yoke
I'm thinking of a money-trough version of the CV that sends out miniature dark energy things to pick up items. There could also be an accessory that does the same thing, only the dark energy things give you the items.
tropic yoke
CV needs some more love in the game.
sweet grove
What about the cryogen
charred gate
Fuck CV and it taking only 1 damage per individual hit.
tropic yoke
He has 5 swords
sweet grove
... Yes... But pretty much nothing else
tropic yoke
F*ck cryogen. An ice fortress shouldn't be able to drop 2 swords and be related to 5
sweet grove
Ironic... Its made from a ice WIZARD and has 5 SWORDS
charred gate
It's actually his house.
ashen warren
It only drops 1 sword, the other one is an axe 
sweet grove
The cryogen needs a rework
round falcon
Cryogen unlocks 3 tiers of weapons
tropic yoke
Meh
sleek wadi
When some ice castle is more powerful than Cthulu's very mind
dusty stirrup
nah cryo doesn't need a rework
sweet grove
Like a HUGE rework
ashen warren
Cryogen is fine
round falcon
Cryo is fine as is
ashen warren
It's king slime but HM
charred gate
It is questionable that Cryogen is stronger than Cthulhu's bro.
tropic yoke
They don't even use gravity the same way lmao
round falcon
Sequence means it's easy
sweet grove
CRYOGEN IS NOT FINE
tropic yoke
tis
ashen warren
smh i meant progression-wise numbnut
fervent zealot
cryogen is fine
sweet grove
its ridiculous how bad it is at times
fervent zealot
he's more than fine, he's cool and nice
round falcon
Cryogen does not need a rework. What he needs is to not have 3 tiers of weapons.
sweet grove
It*
round falcon
He*
sweet grove
It*
round falcon
Permafrost is the cryogen
ashen warren
Guil, why is cryogen bad?
round falcon
Well sort of
sweet grove
Yes... But the cryogen itself is a it
ashen warren
Cryogen is a castle
charred gate
^
ashen warren
Permafrost is a wizard
tropic yoke
Ravager is a castle. Cryogen is NOT a castle right now.
fervent zealot
he's balanced and fair for his point in the game
tropic yoke
Ravager is literally bricks.
sleek wigeon
yeah, hence golem
ashen warren
Anyway why is cryogen "bad" rn? @sweet grove
sleek wigeon
its reanimated brick and flesh congealed into a terrifying biological weapon
its a flesh golem, not a castle.
charred gate
Might want to change chats for this.
tropic yoke
lmao
sleek wadi
The only issue I have with Cryogen is that it can stunlock you. Otherwise it's fine.
sweet grove
The cryogen is mostly overhyped by its story, its acutal fight is less than how its told.. Mainly just following you and summoning minions, though it is powerful and its last phase can be a bit of a problem, its not much of a boss fight but more of a run and gun like the eye of cuthulu
ashen warren
"overhyped" ok
dusty stirrup
tbf you don't really know about it until you fight it
also lore drop implies it got weaker over time anyway
sleek wadi
Warmth Potion does not save you from getting knockback locked. Same thing happens with Signut, BoC, Skeletron, and Profaned Guardians.
It's an issue with the "constantly and perfectly chase player" movement pattern in general
sweet grove
True... I have fought the cryogen a few times.. Never saw the "it got weaker over time" part
charred gate
You better make it animated, Endo
sweet grove
Endo i am counting on you
ashen warren
Cryogens lore is pretty perfectly placed tbh
tropic yoke
Animating 3 extra frames for it's wings is below me. How dare you attempt to waste my boundless skill, peasant.
charred gate
I dare quite easily my dude
tropic yoke
ashen warren
Right at the beginning of Yharim's whole thing
tropic yoke
?
ashen warren
Cryos lore, guilmon said it overhyped him while I disagree and was pointing out why I disagreed
tropic yoke
Should I make it bigger so it's not just a messy jumble of CVs features?
cold terrace
Cute
golden sonnet
I like it rn but it's up to you
cold terrace
The outlines are too dark imo
golden sonnet
hmmm, yeah they could be a little lighter
fervent zealot
@elder mist we got a memer in #suggestions-voting
tropic yoke
wait
proven tide
ein died
fervent zealot
fck
tropic yoke
I forgot a color in that mini-CVs palette x'D
fervent zealot
whomst the fuck do i ping then
proven tide
Uh, let's see who's active
tropic yoke
Just get any of the mods on it.
fervent zealot
you never kn ow if they're a ctually active or not
vestal elbow
smh
tropic yoke
Worth a shot
proven tide
last active mod message was an hour ago so fuck it ping roulette time
tropic yoke
x'D
cold terrace
@radiant meadow fresh meat in suggestions
tropic yoke
OOOF
tight chasm
ono
proven tide
HaH I WIN
tropic yoke
I mean, technically this isn't bad because there's a pretty good reason.
radiant meadow
@rustic stratus no meme suggestions tyvm
tight chasm
smh
proven tide
three mod pings in one minute
tight chasm
want me to log that
radiant meadow
uhh, sure
tropic yoke
:P
radiant meadow
you can do it
tight chasm
lmao gimme smth as far as activity goes in mod chats 
cold terrace
its ok lads i screenshotted it for posterity
tropic yoke
Wait... Have you been trying to Defiled the BR for the last 6 hours?
fervent zealot
same
tropic yoke
What an absolute gamer.
cold terrace
sry for summoning you termi
radiant meadow
I was doing other stuff in the same world but that's not a suggestion
tropic yoke
I kinda want to do it.
There should be a weapon meant specifically for BR, like a super-summon weapon because Demonshade doubles minion damage.
tight chasm
tropic yoke
Suggestion hurdur
cyan lagoon
If you're talking about post scal stuff it'll happen eventually
Not for a long while though
radiant meadow
Dev weapons are already kind of meant for BR as of now.
tropic yoke
But then BR will be buffed boye
tight chasm
smh why need those when you have Dratal
tropic yoke
If no one has gotten hallowed, there must be an issue with trying to no-hit BR.
fervent zealot
why use dratal when apotheosis
cold terrace
hollowed*
tropic yoke
Why use Drat and Apot when 2,000 damage 2 use time magnetic meltdown?
cold terrace
as in empty inside 😔
tropic yoke
oh
Thought it was hallowed as in Jesus of Nazareth because only he could no-hit BR, and even that would take luck.
cold terrace
no shrek can do it
fervent zealot
hallowed be thy name, drheingat
tight chasm
fervent zealot
as for suggestions, i did some thinking and like
tropic yoke
Not sure what to do with this.
sleek wadi
Chonky Void
worthy fiber
Have it behave similarly to the Dreadmine Staff with the dark energies
tropic yoke
It was going to be a money-trough-like thing, but I think it's too big.
worthy fiber
Oh haha, nice
tropic yoke
How about this one?
worthy fiber
That'll work better, I like that
tropic yoke
:P
Well, I guess the top one can be the counterpart to my Cloud weaver minion and the cosmilamp
tropic yoke
It'd be useful
lost agate
@glad thunder you sure thats on our end tho?
tropic yoke
Another client-side chest (if that's the correct terminology)
proven tide
What if the Void was just an item eraser
proven tide
Place the little boy down as a bank but the big boi down as a giant fucking vacuum
glad thunder
Already brought it up with mirsario, he has tried fixing it and has tried fixing many other issues, most of his fixes being succesful. Weapon compats probably require both ends, but the EOC thing is calamity making changes to the boss AI that are wierd
proven tide
The chonk inhales every item onscreen and off for a huge radius and just deletes them from reality
UwU
lost agate
Mirsario told you that?
glad thunder
ye, on overhaul discord
lost agate
Oh geez
glad thunder
been trying to get overhaul - calamity compat for a while
glad thunder
Well the entire bug is wierd. I may not know how to code in the slightest, but one boss out of like 20 being invincible for a relatively unknown reason is pretty wierd.
it doesn't happen with any of the other calamity bosses in any mode
lost agate
And imma be honest with ya bud, im 99.9% sure fab isnt willing to go near overhaul at all
glad thunder
oof
lost agate
Mirsario hasnt been the most lovable guy
glad thunder
I mean true
hearty yew
@lost agate @glad thunder
Regardless of whether Mirsario is willing to add Calamity compatibility to Overhaul (or whatever he does add), Fab will never make Calamity compatible.
There is Overhaul compatibility code in some Calamity weapons that is explicitly commented out (disabled) so the weapons are not compatible with Overhaul. It's entirely intentional.
hearty yew
You should probably remove your suggestion, it's ugly politics that supersede proper game design.
lost agate
With good reasons
hearty yew
Mirsario is hard to get along with. Fab can be too, if you aren't in his clearly designated circles
It's rough
But at least one of them doesn't have an all consuming ego
lost agate
Lemme just delete the suggestion i guess
tropic yoke
Is this a good dark energy for the my Lil' CV?
Welp, gtg 2 sleep.
Cya tomorrow gamers.
worthy fiber
Make it move violent then 🤔
worthy fiber
Guess I find the motion slightly odd
proven tide
It's because when it wiggles back into place, the flames curl forwards instead of lagging behind
which is weird and not a thing fire does
ashen warren
shhh
but I think it would make more sense rather than just "make him teleport on top of you"
because I think that at the player's current speed it'd just the battle impossible
frail mantle
Yeah
ashen warren
because while Astrogeldon used to teleport on top of you
you can outrun him at that point in the game
Slime King pre-bosses, there's almost no way of outrunning that teleport consistently
frail mantle
some of my failed KS nohits failed because he insta-ported on top of me when i was just casually running away
ashen warren
lol
gaunt karma
@ashen warren the problem with a slowing moving projectile is you can go sideways on rope, so you would have the same stategy except that you'd have some rope on the sides
worthy fiber
At least you're moving
fossil torrent
King Slime should get a projectile, yeah
faint rivet
fossil torrent
inb4 replace king slime ai with astrageldon
frail mantle
Then it would still require the player to not stand completely still
mental path
rope parkour hell yes
cold terrace
I don't want to be "that guy"/sound rude, but it's been a little over a day and...
radiant meadow
It takes a while sometimes 🤷
quiet abyss
I'm on it, gimme a bit
cold terrace
Thanks 🙏
faint rivet
DoTs
languid dome
I like Devourer of Thots...
hollow shell
Funny joke name but yknow
it's been like, months
hollow shell
Begone Thot isnt as much of a meme anymore
ashen warren
Meme bad
fossil torrent
It’s pretty dead yeah
eager palm
@rapid inlet but why
rapid inlet
because why would a moth looking creature form out of a magic war unless it was based on a moth to begin with
eager palm
frail mantle
that's not really a good point imo
why is Astrum Deus a worm of all things? we don't know
just because Providence looked like a moth before it doesn't mean she was originally a moth
eager palm
^
rapid inlet
it'd be neat
eager palm
frail mantle
that's definitely not a good reason
eager palm
doesn't matter 
you can keep it in there if you want
simple plank
I can see some cool stuff going on with the moth idea but I don't think "being caught in the crossfire" is the right reason
rapid inlet
yeah, that's true
lost agate
A moth caught in the crossfire became a literal goddess, yeah sounds logical
Because it wouldnt die by being shot at, nu uh
west prairie
I feel like supreme catastrophe and cataclysm need to be less of a joke-- like, have some sort of unique attack that makes them more than 5 second padding
ashen warren
Meatshield?
jovial spire
nah the things at 20% already act as one
languid dome
ey, my guns are liked that much?
jovial spire
yeah i think they're a great idea
west prairie
maybe supreme catastrophe goes to the top of the arena and fires an enormous death laser as it slowly moves from the right side of the screen to the left, while cataclysm fires some bouncing fireballs
hell, scal could even stop firing during that phase
languid dome
I just hope they also put a few really good "bonus" effects on them like a chance to not consume ammo
west prairie
as it stands they're JOKES
fossil torrent
I’m kinda happy with them being jokes tbh
Although I do agree, it’s weird how much stronger and how much more of an impact they do in clone
ashen warren
Yeah I agree with Blackhand, I suggested something similar a few months ago and it even got a check
maybe only have them drop bones once skeletron is dead
otherwise sequence skipping for early wings hahaues
fossil torrent
@heavy mural Bones are supposed to be locked behind skeletron, maybe suggest to have them drop first when skeletron is dead
oh
ashen warren
heavy mural
Those wings are good for about two flaps which I'd say bundle is better, all it's really good for by that point is fall damage immunity, and even then Boots are a thing
fossil torrent
It’s not just the wings tho.
ashen warren
stick an aero stone + frog leg as well as those wings, and you'll see why it's a bad idea to have that available pre skeletron
faint rivet
Pre-boss Necro armor
ashen warren
it'd trivialise the fight
heavy mural
I'ma go look at the crafting recipes for bones
fossil torrent
And the wings would be really good if they were obtainable post Hivemind, they’d just make skeletron obsolete
Take other mods into consideration too, for example Thorium. Calamity wants to have compatibility with Thorium
fossil torrent
Some weapons and stuff iirc
Bones + coal (mined) = some bar you can make weapons with
devout seal
which still needs dungeon materials from the dungeon itself
devout seal
and only the dungeon.
fossil torrent
That's included in far from all the recipies though
Sawblades, Man Hacker, Life Leech/Soul Siphon, Healer armor and 2 items and Bone Trumpet all don't. All good items, especially if you can make them pre-boss
delicate raft
oof
west prairie
bones are gated for a reason
glossy bough
@heavy mural that would sorta bone the Skyline Wings position in the progression line
lavish lily
I can see where he's coming from though
glossy bough
true
it's more of a realism + I want Skyline Wings vs. progression line + balance argument
ashen warren
How about post skeletron?
glossy bough
true but then you could just get it from angry bones
devout seal
If they drop post skeletron, but stop dropping after WoF or one of the mechanicals, i'd say that'd be fine.
ashen warren
Nice
devout seal
the strength is irrelevant, no one uses bones
glossy bough
why
devout seal
the crafting is why they're good.
fossil torrent
Just read up everyone lol
All of this has already been said
devout seal
Alright.
lavish lily
Oops :p
fossil torrent
Read further up
"Breaks skyline progression, should only drop post skeletron"
glossy bough
there's already a Bone Sword I believe
glossy bough
ok
lavish lily
I know about the bone sword
lost agate
That swings like the bone sword?
glossy bough
call it "The Boner"
sleek wigeon
@heavy mural because balance. Bones are an easy way to make a recipe post skeletron
sinful violet
^
otherwise that's pre skele wings iirc
at least mobile does it right 
stuff like necro armor is also locked, which is kinda silly because it's a heck ton of bones and jungle armor anyway, but heck
sleek wigeon
It also messes with other mods that use this shorthand to make things post skeletron
fossil torrent
this has been discussed thrice now
ashen warren
You could say that some people have a thick skull
Maybe instead have a different type of bone drop then?
delicate raft
why not just leave things as they are
ashen warren
For consistency sake, buff underground skellies and make them drop bones post skeletron?
delicate raft
I'm ok with that option, but all other options are just not
faint rivet
Yeah post skeletron skellies should drop bones tbh
Doesn't make sense for them not to at all, but for balance, post skeletron is logical in terms of Calamity
ashen warren
Oh what about different types of bones, like how vanilla has different colored shark fins and gel
But instead of a color change its like a femur or something
faint rivet
That'd be a lot of work for not much reward
Seeing as Bones are locked behind Skeletron for a reason in most cases
If not all cases
delicate raft
tbh if we talk about consistency, I'm ok with skeletons dropping bones
If we talk about needs, there really is no point cuz you get many bones in the dungeon
All enemies drop em
fossil torrent
What's the point in not doing it tho
ashen warren
I would be okay with normal skeletons not dropping bones, but A thats how it works in mobile/3ds i think, and B Some skeletons throw bones as an attack in expert mode. I hope when a new terraria update eventually drops, that they change it then
ashen warren
That makes debuffs not suck though, even if the flare gun shreds
A lot of vanilla weapons are outclassed by the ones from calamity, do you guys have any ideas to improve them? Other than just damage buffs
fervent zealot
make their mechanics not suck ass
a lot of vanilla weapons are just so basic they'll never be worth using without insane buffs or new mechanics
languid dome
One of my previous ideas what to add an item/mechanic that allows them to be upgraded to meet those stats
elder sparrow
gale isnt supposed to be drat
its supposed to be consistent
like all the other exo weapons
its not that hard to hit the arrows either that's a personal problem
compared to other weapons it's fast
i havent checked out gale recently but if arrow changes affected it then it needs a buff
final glen
One of the suggestions reminds me of the Souls from Fargo's Mod, where you mix all the Enchantment Bundles/Souls into one really good super item
elder sparrow
i get heavenly gale requires some aim but it's not that hard
if you cant aim it it's your problem
the arrows are pretty fast and not all weapons fit for some
ashen warren
fossil torrent
quick dove
pretty sure he just poofs out of existence and those flaming balls come after you
he probably has a death sound yes but still thats not enough for such an epic battle
jolly kettle
i mean with having a death animation, could have a sound que that fits the song with "final dying roar"
but yes death animation
untold gulch
how 'bout calamity just do a terraria overhaul and make most bosses have death anims
ashen warren
I don’t think they will tho
They should give all the calamity bosses at least have a death animation
hollow shell
@ashen warren Why did you name it? 🤔
ashen warren
Because the dispulsion would be like an echo that breifly spreads through the cosmos before then suddenly disappeares.
hollow shell
Usually you name something if it'd be seen in-game to some extent, like an item or an enemy
Putting it on a suggestion to allow Acceptance to play after SCal's death seems strange
imo, at least
ashen warren
I think it would be a cool way to calm down the player after defeating SCal for the first time and letting them hear some of DM's awesome music.
And it fits in lore wise.
hollow shell
Yes the suggestion itself is fine
I don't wanna press on the name thing too much lest I seem obsessive about it so you can just keep it if you want
ashen warren
I don't mind changing it, I just can't think of anything else to call it.
hollow shell
you don't need to call it something, you can just post the description
ashen warren
oh
hybrid ocean
Brick Furniture matching with the Calamity Texture Pack resprite
: i just thought it would be nice to have brick furniture
what do you think about brick furniture?
i just thought the texture pack makes it look really nice and it'd be great to have a furniture set
fossil torrent
My point is that brick furniture just doesn’t really make sense
hybrid ocean
does stone make more sense?
fossil torrent
There isn’t a stone furniture set lol
languid ermine
theres obsidian tho
hybrid ocean
i mean if the suggestion would make more sense if it was stone
languid ermine
and flesh smh
fossil torrent
Stone and obsidian you can sculpt though
Bricks are square brick blocks
hybrid ocean
well then i will make it stone
languid ermine
is there a way to prevent clicking on the rage/adr bar? like a hotbar lock of some sort?
hybrid ocean
i don't think so
languid ermine
i always end up dragging them accidentally mid fight
hybrid ocean
that sounds annoying
runic mesa
it is
languid ermine
I'll make a suggestion for that
runic mesa
👍
delicate raft
agreed
gusty geode
Make an effect that only triggers when you die come into effect faster for the benefit of no-hitters
fossil torrent
No, just make it work properly when you click away the invunerability
ashen warren
Li'l nipper
Prehardmode version of the pirahna gun, shooting a little goldfish that nips on enemies.
The piranha gun is an interesting weapon, but even in calamity the instant it is obtained the barracuda gun is also available, a rather massive upgrade.
Crafted with a minishark, vine and goldfish.
gusty geode
The invulnerability that only triggers when you would otherwise die
fossil torrent
Yes, what’s wrong with it? What’s the problem
ashen warren
the problem is it's pointless jav
gusty geode
If it got to the point where you almost died, you've probably been hit multiple times already
Unless you killed yourself through self-damage prior to the fight
fossil torrent
😤 fair point amber
ashen warren
plus i already showed you how i deal with the silva invul time, just start the fight and hold left click while dealing with 1st bh
runic mesa
thicc, i like the idea of a goldfish gun
radiant meadow
don't forget that minion dmg boosts update
at least, the ones important for scal do
final glen
He forgot Crabulon
ashen warren
How about the fungus keeping his body is destroyed, and with nothing left to keep himself together, he just crumbles
final glen
Makes sense
flat scarab
looks like someone liked overhaul
sleek wadi
Brimstone Elemental could retreat into her shelf before fizzling out and dropping onto the floor, breaking on impact
fervent sky
Yes
ashen warren
DoG's idea sounds cool on concept, but each individual segement would be a bit much
sleek wadi
Perforator Worms could pop segment-by-segment, starting from the head.
fervent sky
True, maybe the shell could fall off?
final glen
Hive Mind would just explode and spread whatever the hell makes it up everywhere?
fervent sky
As for DOGGO, I mean his segments basically get a bit farther apart, then sucked into the portal
Also I like all these ideas as well
I'll add them
sleek wadi
The purple shell bits of Hivemind could shatter while the fleshy bits melt onto the floor
fervent sky
I kinda like the one where it turns into the organisms that make it up, as it would kind of make sense since the player is basically dismantling their hive
ashen warren
Siren/ leviathan?
sleek wadi
Astrum Deus could die as usual, but it leaves some kind of constellation behind
final glen
Siren/Leviathan...well if you kill the Leviathan first it'll just fall down and crumble in on itself since she is only half of what she is, and Siren would fall and sing some death notes as she disappears in the ocean
sleek wadi
Leviathan should go belly-up, it IS a giant fish after all.
final glen
Still not entirely sure how it's alive when it literally ripped itself in half
fervent sky
Magic
flat scarab
too much crumbling for my liking but okay
golden sonnet
I like the leviathan idea
sleek wadi
It's getting a resprite where the fish is whole
golden sonnet
only problem is if it dies in space
jovial spire
yeah it looks awesome
ashen warren
So for the siren, i cant find any examples of sirens deaths, but how about some inspiration from a similar entity, the selkie. The sirens skin falls away, and before you get a glimpse of her true form, she darts away
final glen
Where can I find the new sprite? And that does sound good Thicc...might be annoying when you have to listen to the same death notes everytime you kill her
rancid oar
maybe the new Leviathan can break in half before fading away entirely, as a reference to its old lore?
and that'd be on the pixel art server, Xin
final glen
Thanks Mav
fervent sky
I dug through the art server and found the new Levi sprite. I don't think it's the fully up to date one, but it's still amazing
I just wish I could sprite like that
final glen
Holy crap that looks amazing
runic mesa
^
misty talon
much better than the current green beach ball
jolly kettle
when calamity gets all its resprites gonna pre
ashen warren
wowie i seen the new leviathan sprite a couple of months ago and it looks sick
fervent sky
I'm pretty sure the bottom is almost done, but I couldn't find the complete version
ashen warren
Its not an official by the sprite team i think
fervent sky
I forget who's making it, but I know that they said the team is gonna change the lore to fit with t
ashen warren
I think it started with a z lmao
it's actually official 99% sure based on whom i remember posting that, since they have the dev role 
fervent sky
Ye
quiet abyss
It is indeed official resprite, Nitro is working on it
It’s a massive piece of work though, so it’ll take quite a while longer
fervent sky
Ok that's what I thought
final glen
Alrighty then
cold terrace
post corn
fresh harbor
Didn't the Leviathan saw her body in half flex tape memes in the lore? Or is that going to be changed?
quiet abyss
The latter
vital grotto
so how did the siren come to be, then?
delicate raft
Lore's gonna be changed ye
golden sonnet
the levi just it's pet now or something...
ashen warren
I wish the new sprite had a pointless male leviathan flopping around doing its thing
frank stratus
Levi is a female >_>
ashen warren
Yeah
And i assume inspired by an angler fish
The males are tiny and cling to the females
And leviathan spawns paraseas and aquatic aberations
proven tide
Petrifrost is such a perfect name holy shit
ashen warren
Now it's like lunar fragments except there would be even less point in still having NMF and ETE
ashen warren
Nice, Petrifrost reduces the amount of time and space used to make the Silva+ stuff, for easy convenience. Neat name helps as well.
I'm tryna decode what Sequence meant when he said that there would be less of a point to having the two crafting materials.
Which would be better, three stacks of craft shit, or one stack?
jolly kettle
We probably need some uses that only use nightmare fuel or endothermic energy
But having a petrifrost is handy
bitter flower
Exo Core
Crafted with 5 NF + 5 EE + 5 Cosmilite + 5 Phantoplasm + 3 Yharon Soul Fragment + 5 Darksun Fragment + 25 Auric Ore
Used to craft exo weapons along with their respective weapon components, and possibly for Draedon's summon item when he becomes a boss.
Why: In order to remove inventory clutter when crafting the exo weapons and it makes more sense than just mashing a bunch of items together
would this work?
frail mantle
i think i made an Auric Bar suggestion with those materials that got sent in a few months back
ashen warren
"Decode" What I said is pretty clear to me but I'll explain.
Lunar fragments being separate is almost entirely pointless other than for defining 4 of the 5 classes via.. color coding? (throwing doesn't count).
Calamity makes lunar fragments being separate even more irrelevant with the introduction of galactica singularities, making it that all the pillars just drop galactica singularities and having all lunar stuff be crafted from them would be far more efficient and cut out a middleman that realistically doesn't need to be there. There are similar issues with "Petrifrost" in that since nothing uses solely Nightmare Fuel or Endothermic Energy that even having the 2 materials is meaningless, you might as well just make Pumpking and Ice queen drop them directly and remove NMF and ETE. Their suggestion to me was "make NMF and ETE almost entirely irrelevant and introduce more tedium into post-dog crafting". Stuff like the auric bar and whatnot I only support because ore smelting directly into weapons and armor is weird imo.
I wrote a lot more than I intended.. 
Pinged @ashen warren
bitter flower
eh ill put it in anyways
ashen warren
Not for you fyi, I meant that for timerfun
bitter flower
i know
ashen warren
Ore crafting into a core is even weirder
bitter flower
it doenst make sense either way
ashen warren
Using phantoplasm and whatnot as a flux and way to strengthen the metal actually makes a lot of sense imo
pliant bone
Level Restore
Crafted with one of each Level meters on any hardmode anvil.
Used to be able to go back to previous levels. The exp you have gained when going back to these levels aren't affected.
ashen warren
Kinda like how steel is iron with some carbon added, generally in the form of charcoal iirc
Is that another nohit levels thing?
pliant bone
Most likely
pliant bone
Well it is gonna be mostly used by nohitters
But it could stop the "minority" of people being mad about the lvls thing.
pliant bone
Ah okay
faint rivet
We can just reverse-engineer cheat engine leveling
pliant bone
fossil torrent
I’m happy I never had to bother with this since I got all before ml done before proficiency patch
faint rivet
Until your inevitable redos due to outdated nohits
ashen warren
I honestly don't get the leveling hate man.
There have been a few suggestions related to levels and nohitting so the devs know by now, I doubt they'll do it.
pliant bone
Me neither
fossil torrent
Although that doesn’t happen if they’re submitted and done I think
faint rivet
It's only us nohitters who are bothered by the levelling system
fossil torrent
Yeah
ashen warren
You gotta do all nohits in one update unless nothing changed with your weapon and nothing changed with boss ai
That's how I read it anyway
faint rivet
Pass
pliant bone
But still, im having 2nd thoughts about this
fossil torrent
Sequence you gotta SUBMIT it in the same update unless nothing changed
ashen warren
Not just nohitters subway, there are folks who just really hate levels.
Err, yea that
fossil torrent
Otherwise every single one of my nohits other than ML and Yharon would be gone and that’d be dumb
Submitted is submitted
Anyways, offtopic
faint rivet
Why'd they dislike free damage?
fossil torrent
Because they straight dislike the system of farming stuff to level up
ashen warren
Something about grinding levels and non-existant balance issues
fossil torrent
Yeah, grinding
It’s so unlike Terraria
faint rivet
Ikr
pliant bone
faint rivet
Definitely not a core part of the game
ashen warren
"Grinding levels is hard" then don't do it
"But levels are required now since bosses are balanced around them" no, they aren't
fossil torrent
Grinding mobs for levels I mean
That’s something for mmorpgs
faint rivet
Also cheat sheet exists if they really think the minor difference is that huge
pliant bone
Wai, cheatsheet can edit lvls?
fossil torrent
No
ashen warren
Offtopic though I guess 
faint rivet
Engine
pliant bone
faint rivet
I mix the 2 up lmao
fossil torrent
Yeah this is pretty offtopic
faint rivet
Ye
faint rivet
I couldn't care for them due to magic storage but I won't deny them
fossil torrent
Do all exoweapons require all those mats? including armors?
ashen warren
About your suggestion louis, go ahead and post if you like, just be aware that almost no suggestions get in so don't get your hopes up.
fossil torrent
Yeah it’s somehing for Apotheosis n Friends
ashen warren
And the devs know about nohitters complaints anyway
faint rivet
Unsure on the Cosmilite part but rest looks fine
pliant bone
Yeah I just thought of that
ashen warren
"5 Cosmilite" bruh
faint rivet
Phantoplasm
ashen warren
Farm DoG for 10 years why don'tcha
faint rivet
pliant bone
Make Cosmilite craftable smh
fossil torrent
Post DoG cosmilite ore veins in Planetoids generated in a snake pattern
ashen warren
DoG just takes forever
faint rivet
Eh
fossil torrent
DoG is really annoying to farm yeah
But I accept it because it’s such a fun fight
faint rivet
^
fossil torrent
i wonder how well scorpio does for dog
ashen warren
I like fighting DoG but needing to do three 3-5 minute fights just to get cosmilite gear then doing 2 more just for exo gear?
Very much eh
fossil torrent
It’s pretty ech yeah
I still think snake-pattern ore in planetoids is a good idea and my mind won’t be changed
Ooor
That post DoG cosmilite drops from sentinels
ashen warren
I think that making all lore-bosses drop all weapons on kill and are then unsummonable until boss-rush would be neat
faint rivet
Or buff some boss(es) and add Cosmolite to their loot table
ashen warren
Geodes would spawn in hallow, cosmilite would drop from sentinels or deus or something et cetera
fossil torrent
Make Cosmilite drop from the Sentinels after DoG is defeated
They are also buffed.
This is to reduce grinding for Cosmilite, as it’s very annoying to have to fight it around 5 additional times total to get the nessecary gear for Yharon and Scal.
Geodes should spawn in Hallow and Underworld
faint rivet
Ye
ashen warren
Was talking about making folks like providence fightable only once
Since they straight up die
faint rivet
Eh
fossil torrent
I think it’s just bad
I like being able to go back and kill/farm bosses
fossil torrent
For example farming King Slime for souls or others for money
ashen warren
Ravager is implied to have copies so that doesn't happen with it, and so on
sleek wadi
Providence could probably reform itself in the sun again. Or you could write it off as Providence sending most of itself to the player and keeps just enough of it left behind to reform.
ashen warren
"farming King Slime for souls" pathetic weakling I do it too ngl
That's some anime level asspulling mecha but if every boss does that ok den
fossil torrent
Most of the bosses is logical tho
Slime God’s literally a god of slimes it can reform no problem
Cryogen can probably reform
Clone is a clone, there’s probably many of them
Plaguebringer same as above
Ravager same as above
DoG literally is not able to die
Scal’s end dialogue implies she isn’t either
faint rivet
I mean for clone the message is literally "A Calamitas Doppelganger has been defeated! " so there's definitely more out there
And yeah SCal basically confirms her immortality/constant rebirth in one of her last lines
ashen warren
Scal is implied to be like the player
faint rivet
Don't see the connections
faint rivet
Soon™
random tide
Are boss balance suggestions allowed?
fossil torrent
Yeah add some reasoning and a way to do it (for example ”increase health” or such)
worthy fiber
They're not in yet
faint rivet
Wiki doesn't update changelogs
Until said change is actually implemented to the public versions
unique shore
alrighty
civic rampart
There's brimrose ald
worthy fiber
No stat benefits though
I wonder if the mod could benefit from unique options from mounts
The vanilla combat mounts are pretty neat ig, but the Basilisk needs you to be tanky (which is strange considering it deals summoning damage) and the Cute Fishron's just there to cheese Moon Lord
simple plank
how does one Cheese Moonlord with Cute Fishron
teal shoal
Honey
faint rivet
^
simple plank
oh, neat.
Never cared much for cheesing bosses but I always thought the Fishron mount was mind numbingly slow
Always used Void Gazer's Chariot from Coz'nix(from the Thorium mod).
worthy fiber
You just grab your infinite bucket and drench that fish
Floods the world but space man is dead
faint rivet
errant laurel
For the mount, maybe the bonus defense could happen only while you're shooting a projectile, like BE retreats in her shell while shooting everywhere
placid moth
Is it okay if i suggest a mini biome within the jungle biome
errant laurel
Make it a weaker bonus, because you always shooting projectiles if you play the right way
Well, you make the suggestion, then see how everyone else reacts
gaunt karma
@tender obsidian you mean spawning the devourer of gods? lol
faint rivet
Sentinels in the DoG fight are nerfed
proven tide
yikes
frail mantle
@ashen warren first of all, there’s not really any need to make an item that you think might be useful for a boss that isn’t even in the mod yet
second of all, please at least include some reasoning for why you’d like this item in the game
civic rampart
Prolly for some super accessory that he wants
proven tide
Third of all, the Sponge is already an S tier, end-game accessory of stupid power, and the Aegis itself is around A-, also end-game
civic rampart
Tbh just commit download apoth&friends
proven tide
The Sponge is itself a super-accessory and could damn well be left as is, regardless of Draedon and Yharim and Goozma fights
tbh don't have done that
lapis kernel
I have been told over and over that tank items are shit
And it’s kinda true
Sponge vs no sponge was like almost no difference in all the fights I tested it in
ashen warren
Why are you saying this in #suggestions-discussion ?
fervent grove
I agree there should not be a (single) accessory that once equipped, can make any character tanky
like, super tanky
you gotta sacrifice something, and that means at least two or three slots
lost agate
Why are you minimodding? 
ashen warren
wow, what a well thought out and balanced suggestion that they totally didn't think of in 2 seconds /s
Wasn't minimodding was legit asking why
lost agate
(its a joke)
marsh gust
honestly, id like that one suggestion where its an accessory that'll make your character in liquid without it actually being in liquid to get in the game
i think it was one of lilith's suggestions?
ashen warren
I remember making a yharon arena filled entirely with lava to capitalize on liquid-based buffs
fervent grove
was it possible to see?
marsh gust
but why lava
marsh gust
o right.. and mk
ashen warren
Cutron is viable
tender obsidian
@gaunt karma all three at once, not one after another.
gaunt karma
yeah i got it
tender obsidian
cool cool
placid moth
Pablo, what ?
hybrid ocean
should the music mod be divided in Pre-HM, Hardmode and Post-ML?
worthy fiber
Too many mods
vestal elbow
Music mod for each individual boss and biome tbh
novel pebble
Ah, No. leave it the way It is.
unique owl
nah
hybrid ocean
or maybe another music mod containing 8-bit/lower quality versions of the ost
fossil torrent
Music mod for every note in every song tbh
lost agate
Either way, it sounds awfully complex to set up
And 8 bit songs arent neccesarily lighter
lost agate
I wonder how many times has that kind of suggestion been shut down
lavish lily
Music mod for every frame of music tbh
lavish lily
👌
terse sundial
I would be cool with a counterpart, but there isn't a need for ninja armor to be rogue when we already have obsidian armor changes.
Ah nevermind, we already have the cursed dagger
sleek wadi
Every world does get Crimson though due to the evil island.
mental path
oh my god i did not know of the cursed dagger
terse sundial
I think they mean a natural underground crimson
sleek wadi
You can just bring the hardened Crimsand down to some cavern and make a small block of underground Crimson
lavish lily
Understandable, there's so much shit in the game
Just bring red solution from another world
mental path
thats kindof cheating
lavish lily
Not really
sleek wadi
Just farm it in another world at that point
Also Calamity aims to make everything available in a single world
sleek wadi
The evil island provides enough blocks to be that world evil immediately.
lavish lily
How about all of the above
mental path
yeah but you can't open the chest without beating plantera
ashen warren
How about some on the main planetiod
terse sundial
I mean, you could always just live with the current rogue loadout for early hm
That is subject to change though with the release of 1.4.2
lavish lily
Breaks, that should be a small price to pay for not getting that world evil.
fervent zealot
@magic verge i think that's basicially impossible code wise
untold gulch
probably would be difficult to code
magic verge
something like ultimate house enabler, that enables more than one npc in a single room, but with a block count restriction
i dont think its that far fetched to code
fossil torrent
Yeah that's probably just.. really hard to code
ashen warren
Extremely hard
ruby cobalt
HAAARDCODED!
sleek wadi
One neat trick you could try is using actuated blocks as walls and platforms as doors. It'll make the build look like one room but functionally a lot of rooms if you're okay with the occaisonal 3 platforms.
sleek wadi
Actuated wood makes for a decent support beam, so a tavern build could easily house 3 npcs while looking like one cohesive room.
ashen warren
How about a 'sauna' you can make using material in the abyss that gives you a buff it stat boost
runic mesa
id like it
ashen warren
Eidolon Item Removal
Remove the cultist set from the Eidolon-related entities. It does nothing but clog up the inventory with a mess while farming in the abyss or dungeon alike. If someone really wanted those robes, they would have them crafted or bought from the clothier, as god intended. The drops only really exist for lore reasons and seem like they should only be dropped by bosses/abyss-minibosses alike.
radiant meadow
You can buy them from the clothier
ashen warren
If ties are still wanted. Also that, as well.
radiant meadow
no need for a craftable set
ashen warren
There isn't a need for it to drop in the first place.
jolly kettle
make them stackable
why cant armor/ vanity of the same kind just stack with each other
jolly kettle
ashen warren
I just want my farm to not clog every two seconds bc of some wyrm boi
jolly kettle
semi solution
get auto trash
dump them there? if they are gonna keep the wyrm drops
i would rather have 2 spaces filed max of clothing than all of it
imo
delicate raft
tbh auto trash does solve many problems, you shouldn't have problems in the first place
ashen warren
It'd be nice if you didn't have the problem in the first place tho.
If I have to get a mod to make a mod of a game more better, the base mod is at fault.
languid ermine
i think maxstackextra makes armor/vanity stackable if that helps
jolly kettle
but a soultion from the mod itself would be a better outcome
but max stack and autotrash are alts
ashen warren
For QOL as I understand.
jolly kettle
basically going on timers comment
languid ermine
but stacking armor or auto trashing doesn't really have anything to do with calamity
jolly kettle
maybe they could drop lunaticc cloth
that could make the clothing
and other things
ashen warren
You can already buy the vanities from clothier
jolly kettle
eh, dosent really fit that he sells it
ashen warren
That was in the OG game
languid ermine
he sells the solar too
ashen warren
Changing vanilla wack.
ashen warren
Let me explain, changing more inner values in terraria, such as shopkeeping and such, makes for some weird results.
jolly kettle
ashen warren
Ever see a NPC sell you a HM exclusive item in PHM
jolly kettle
nah, they put them in those biomes chests instead
proven tide
Oh, oh, are we doing spawn ideas?
hollow shell
@narrow saffron It got delivered. No need to repost
proven tide
Did this one get delivered?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eg8EZyoBT4YdWbI1AKlCxg2uK0X7Zwn2-VhCpjDcklo/edit
hollow shell
No
(You don't need to ask. Just go to the original suggestion and see if there's a green checkmark)
hollow shell
(it was not)
proven tide
(Oh oof)
hollow shell
(twas 4 months ago. Checkmarks were implemented around 6 months ago)
narrow saffron
Whoops.
frank stratus
no aquatic scourge spawning been suggested a couple times already though
ooh, maybe a random chance of fishing him up?
civic rampart
Tbh aqua scourge spawn with fishing can be cheesed with a weapon that pierces and does heavy dmg, by fishing him and attacking him the moment he spawns at the coil
jolly kettle
Prob make him invulnerable the first few seconds like final doggo
frank stratus
suggestion thonk
leaden swift
true
jolly kettle
hollow shell
@leaden swift Your suggestion seems a bit
nonspecific?
An item that modifies the entire world or... what??
(I don't even know how to elaborate on my questions because I'm still unsure about what the suggestion actually entails)
frail mantle
it might possibly be that they want Calamity to essentially copy Enigma
proven tide
It seems pretty clear. An item that, halfway through progression, will simply completely overwrite the entire world.
Should be pretty easy to code. Can't go wrong at all.
ashen warren
Its easy to say that
frail mantle
a well-thought out and reasonable, problem-less suggestion
eager palm
You can't balance the game around your lag lol
tulip fulcrum
@sharp relic it seems more like a multiplayer bug then a ingame mechanic, I'd suggest reporting that too the #bugs-read-pins channel the the #suggestions-voting
fossil torrent
Yeah there’s a problem here, this isn’t a normal amount of lag, not what you usually get in multiplayer
Only time I’ve got 2-3 fps is when I’ve done some CRAAAAZYYY stuff with halibut or shredder
tulip fulcrum
Mhm
fossil torrent
Something’s wrong on your end @sharp relic
tulip fulcrum
That or your friends' end