People use ataxia over Omega blue?
#suggestions-discussion
radiant meadow
no
hollow shell
He meant Astral
radiant meadow
but like, I can use ataxia if omega blue is an option to be a rebel I guess
elder sparrow
who called me
hollow shell
I don't think he did, who's playing baseball at the moment
reef mountain
4 some reason omega blue neglects positive life regen.
hollow shell
It's because you're supposed to use the tentacles' lifesteal to heal you
ashen warren
More tools. Yay.
elder sparrow
it should probably note that then
radiant meadow
that's part of the set bonus
hollow shell
It'd probably be more fitting for Lunar Landscraper to be crafted with Galactica Singularities instead of Unholy Essence
radiant meadow
says tentacles have lifesteal
hollow shell
but then again, Gallant is crafted with Galactica iirc
molten hearth
True
radiant meadow
and isn't gallant available immediately after ml?
ashen warren
ye
molten hearth
Changed the Lunar Landscaper to a new post-provi tool
radiant meadow
so a tool to make blossom pick useless? 
molten hearth
I'm stupid lmao
radiant meadow
I mean, you can bomb auric ore, so it doesn't really matter anyways
molten hearth
Changed it again XD
hollow shell
đ
sleek wadi
What's more explosive resistant:
A godly ore that is used in armor capable of reviving its owner twice and weapons of mass destruction;
Or some green rocks.
molten hearth
Lol
sleek wigeon
upgrades on the same tier as their componets are bad
radiant meadow
like conclave crossfire?
reef mountain
aeries gives life drain, which is extreme unique even compared to crossfire.
ashen warren
But conclave is still better
reef mountain
maybe slightly, but there should be more than one good weapons per tier.
hollow shell
"Needless to say, it's p wack in every way."
~ Zplo, in his diss track on Earthen Pike
sorry
ashen warren
As long as i have imksushi with alch npc
It aint problematic
And besides , making a smol biome aint a problem
vital grotto
just make truffle spawn automatically in houses tbh
hecking dude should be glad i have a place for him at all
charred gate
He really should, normally there's not mushroom.
analog tendon
Maybe we need to make rus. channels?
frail mantle
do you mean Russian channels?
hybrid ocean
truffle rather be killed by monsters than live in a wooden house
placid moth
Is shroomite still good anyway
frail mantle
Shroomite isnât that hard to get tbh
ashen warren
Golem is ez and you can get Ataxia straight after that
frail mantle
Golem isnât so ez if you fight him in the temple
placid juniper
Golem's AI is pretty easily abusable
rotund plaza
every single golem I've ever seen has been shunted in the hall
frail mantle
@thin shale although there will definitely be more bosses post SCal, they wonât be coming for a long time, so making a weapon thatâll be viable against them now isnât necessary
thin shale
Okay
In the future then
Iâll release this idea once the future bosses are released
frail mantle
also, when those bosses are implemented, the devs will make sure there are weapons for all the classes that are viable for them
anyway, you can suggest this item, but currently, i donât think âthis item will be good for future bossesâ is a good reason
just find another good reason youâd want this item in the mod and youâre good to go
ashen warren
How come nobody has thought of a Devil's Devastation + Ultisword weapon?
It seems the most obvious route for the 2 weapons
thin shale
Initially I suggest that the Ultisword needs an upgrade after all
But the idea of âbeing useful for the future bossesâ is only a possibility
Anyways, I edited my reason on the suggestion Iâd been thinking about for the past two days.
@ashen warren I must say thatâs a great idea
frail mantle
Shadowspec Bars are only for dev weapons
lunar rune
oh
frail mantle
calamitous essence is basically free range
faint rivet
200 auric ore is nothing
lunar rune
yes ik but compared to other stuff it's disproportionate
faint rivet
True
lunar rune
also, true tyrant ultisword is like post providence. omega tyrant is post Scal. maybe too big of a jump?
faint rivet
Not really
frail mantle
Ele axe is made pre-Providence and is upgraded post-Yhartwo
lunar rune
thats in conjunction with other stuff to make a "endgame" thing tho, while that's a direct upgrade
faint rivet
Minishark is pre-boss Pre-HM and megashark is Post Cryogen/Destroyer 
frail mantle
^
ashen warren
thats in conjunction with other stuff to make a "endgame" thing tho
That's what an upgrade is
faint rivet
Ye
lunar rune
okok i admit to being a total idiot
ashen warren
Also, the wand exists
faint rivet
Seadragon -> Voidragon for example
lunar rune
please forgive me
faint rivet
Wand 
lunar rune
frail mantle
The wand 
faint rivet
Pre-boss Pre-HM -> Post-Darksun
frail mantle
The wand is basically a joke item
ashen warren
isn't the wand post-yharon tbh
faint rivet
Post-Darksun yharon ye
chrome holly
@thin shale Your suggestion is good but 50 cores of calamity is ridiculous
placid moth
too many auric ores, core of calamity as well some farming for 2 yharim insignias
lofty blade
Make RoD damage reset Adrenaline.
Do you guys think this is good?
ashen warren
no
faint rivet
Make RoD damage kill anyone with armageddon enabled
placid moth
wait rod dmg doesnt reset adrenaline
placid moth
is it possible to constantly rod-ding and lifesteal
ashen warren
uh considering how much damage it does, no
quiet abyss
^
fossil torrent
Bad suggestion not enough âmega
delicate raft
Steampunker is a she
ashen warren
isnt that a luiafk item or am i a dum
silk dock
@neat nexus She*
delicate raft
It actually is
thin shale
@chrome holly should I reduce it to 30?
placid moth
plz reduce accessories to 1
and the rest to reasonable amounts, like 20
auric ore is an exception, though 200 is still a lot
silk dock
Buff Svantechnical
thin shale
Well, Auric Tesla armor requires around 200 auric ores
silk dock
Buff it just for those that wish to mow the horde lawn
thin shale
Plus i wish Leviathan is nerfed
thin shale
Because I beat Levi after Moon Lord. Plus I feel that Levi is as hard as Duke.
thin shale
Well, actually I beat DM Plaguebringer on my 2nd try while I still have to leave Levi unbeaten after 7 deaths.
placid moth
do you run into the siren's lullabies all the time
silk dock
Yes
placid moth
or do you always kill death siren first
placid moth
on death, always kill levi first
proven relic
it's not like auric ore is hard to find, though @lunar rune
bold spruce
What Simon said
proven relic
you can get like 400 ore from one vein, and it's absolutely everywhere
thin shale
Well, my worst fail is when Levi is at below 20% health and Siren at around 30% health. Plus Iâve been battle active for 10 mins
lunar rune
@proven relic Yea I know it's really easy to find but in proportion with Auric Tesla armour and stuff it's too much
proven relic
i would argue that it doesn't matter
silk dock
No like
thin shale
And I also want to suggest end game Summoner weapons.
placid moth
^^^^
proven relic
in fact, i would make everything cost more Auric ore
thin shale
Because thereâs a lack of summoner weapons for post SCal
proven relic
but the Cosmic Immaterializer is so OP @thin shale
silk dock
I don't have many summoner weapons
cyan lagoon
@simple sigil 3000% damage?
cyan lagoon
that's definitely overkill, even if it's supposed to be end game
silk dock
That Spawns 8 orbs
proven relic
i can AFK kill the moon lord with the Cosmic Energy in less than 5 seconds
cyan lagoon
it'd be better off at 200% or 300%
simple sigil
Hm, true.
cyan lagoon
especially since most if not all endgame weapons at that stage have ludicrous dps
proven relic
the cosmic immaterializer isn't the weapon that spawns the orbs. it's the one that summons the cosmic energy @silk dock
simple sigil
Adjusted cap to 300%
silk dock
Huh
proven relic
i think zynthes is thinking of a different magic weapon.
they're thinking of the Voltaic climax
thin shale
That could potentially be a good suggestion
proven relic
thin shale
Probably a weapon with a similar fashion
silk dock
Y ea
thin shale
But doesnât work that way
silk dock
That
thin shale
Voltaic Climax is an extremely good weapon back then
proven relic
people use the voltaic climax before they've beaten scal to melt the blood orbs. i know i've seen people use it for that.
thin shale
But it got nerfed a lot
silk dock
I use it for killing the hearts
thin shale
And I feel like it deals way less dps than the late 2017 version of Calamity
proven relic
but i was talking about how OP the cosmic immaterializer is as a summoner weapon. i honestly couldn't see a need for any other end game summoners (besides maybe for veriety)
thin shale
A weapon for your suggestion list?
simple sigil
Yes?
silk dock
Does this effect increase over time? Or based on damage dealt
simple sigil
It increases with every hit landed which deals more than a certain amount of damage, up to its 300% cap
simple sigil
Technically, except it stacks with rage and adrenaline
silk dock
SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING
lost agate
well then lemme go get my soma prime, some hyperius bullets, shoot for like a second and use my weapon
ez dmg
simple sigil
There's a reason it's meant to be at the absolute end of the progression tree
silk dock
@lost agate hEy Soma Prime was a good warframe weapon
lost agate
doesnt make it less op
silk dock
Tru
lost agate
and remember that br exists
silk dock
I honestly feel like that armor could be a problem with certain hella fast dps weapons
Like soma or svantechnical
simple sigil
By the time you get it, you're basically done with the run
It kinda exists for the people looking to set obscene times with BR
silk dock
Or that pickaxe in thorium if you have that mod
lost agate
also uh, now that i think about it, you dont need swan to stack that fast
everything hits hella fast
thin shale
Speaking of Thorium mod, I feel like the Omega Core can outrun Doggo
lost agate
wand hits a lot too
silk dock
At ludicrous speed
ashen warren
I thought it was impossible to outrun doggo?
cyan lagoon
the basic pickaxe?
civic rampart
Use a i frame ignoring weap
cyan lagoon
that's not obtainable though
ashen warren
Elysian is post dog 
silk dock
Tru
civic rampart
- fargo's super sonic soul
thin shale
When he rams at you at his 1st phase, itâs like semi-impossible but itâs possible to outrun him on Phase 2
simple sigil
I was entirely aware that you can easily max the true wndgame suggestion's damage buff with something that ignores i-frames
silk dock
Omega core is excruciatingly painful to predict what your gonna hit
thin shale
For 1st phase Doggo, I feel like thereâs no problem using it
thin shale
Because Doggoâs attacks would be one directional if youâre far away from him
silk dock
I hate one direction
lost agate
this is getting #other-mod-talk
thin shale
I know
lost agate
well then go there
silk dock
I mean. @simple sigil it could work
simple sigil
The whole idea of it being the absolute last armor set is this: By the time you have the armor, you've already completed everything else boss-wise, ignoring other mods. The only thing left to do is shoot for a record on BR.
thin shale
Iâm suggesting on increasing DoGâs ramming speed if those kind of accessories were equipped
silk dock
But maybe throttle the speed of the charge on high dps..?
thin shale
Except for the final boss
silk dock
Nor is kirby
lost agate
well thats becuase they dont get buffed by rev or death
thin shale
So I would want to suggest in the other mod suggestionâs section to support Rev and Death mode
civic rampart
Imagine raging on steroids, that'd be rage and adren activated at the same time irl
simple sigil
"Every 8th non-crit attack which deals over ĂĂĂĂ damage will increase the damage output of ALL weapons by 2%"
thin shale
Okay
simple sigil
With this change, the effect only really means something if your crit chance is <100%
As crits don't build the damage boost
thin shale
How about at least a 96% crit strike chance
civic rampart
Wait a 4 digit dmg number?
thin shale
You could try to make a Crit Strike Cap for the armor
placid moth
whats the point of a crit cap, no one in their rational mind would want to go beyond 100
thin shale
It may be for the future
eager palm
Would it be possible to make crit go over 100% with the same effects as in warframe
thin shale
If post SCal bosses are released, that suggestion could work properly
hollow shell
You could suggest an alternate helmet for Demonshade considering the focus on damage
Would be a decent contrast against current Demonshade's instantaneous increased damage via its Enrage button
eager palm
Where if your crit is 120% for example you will always crit but there's a 20% chance for a orange crit which has a higher multiplier
agile cloud
like 4/5x?
eager palm
Is that even possible in terraria or is crit hard coded to be 100% max?
thin shale
Problem is, we couldnât suggest items which has something to do with Shadowdpec
agile cloud
iirc demonshade is fine
thin shale
@hollow shell
agile cloud
which one
cyan lagoon
I still hate that loophole
why is shadowspec bars disallowed but not calamitous essence (which its sole and only use is to make dev items)
agile cloud
Other way around xd
hollow shell
Because future content
hollow shell
Shadowspec's always gonna be the dev item material, but Calamitous Essence will eventually become SCal's drop used for other stuff, once she's no longer endgame
thin shale
L@cyan lagoon#8833 I think itâs because of calamitous essences not being a donator item
hollow shell
(iirc)
cyan lagoon
ye it ain't
but that was loooong before patron items were a thing
so that's not a valid reason per se
rover summed it up best though
hollow shell
I think he means dedicated item, Cob
thin shale
Thatâs all I know
agile cloud
great, crafting recipes taking nightmare fuel/endothermic energy, auric ore, darksun fragments, yharon soul fragments AND phantoplasm
along with essence
agile cloud
Auric bars will always be a good suggestion
thin shale
Auric Bar sounds like a good idea
agile cloud
No matter how many times it's suggested
placid moth
I believe shadowspec bars take that spot
hollow shell
Nah fam
faint rivet
Miracle matter? 
hollow shell
(and yes)
We mean bars that are used to condense all those massive Auric/Exo recipes
thin shale
I also would suggest a Calamitas NPC
placid moth
Like, after SCal ?
thin shale
Yep
placid moth
Sure.
agile cloud
Thats been suggested before iirc, but if you can think of a use for it
Then it could work
simple sigil
I mean one possible shop item could be Calamitous Essence for like 20-35 plat
ashen warren
100 plat
agile cloud
35 plat is NOTHING
ashen warren
Or a custom currency
thin shale
My suggestion would be a little weird. To make her an NPC, you need to use calamitous essences to make her an NPC when sheâs at 1% health instead of dealing the killing blow. She could function like a companion (similar to minions but will not desummon after you die), also selling the items that she dropped.
thin shale
Or a weapon that shoots SCalâs projectiles
hollow shell
(Seething Discharge)
thin shale
And the spear-like weapon we saw in the Stained, Brutal Calamity art
ashen warren
It better be a rouge weapon
thin shale
@hollow shell a much deadlier one but functions differently
You can summon a bullet hell using that weapon
With the cost of the lack of the sight of enemy projectiles.
@ashen warren and the spear like weapon would have a rogue and melee variant
With different mechanics
ashen warren
:hellyes:
thin shale
The rogue variantâs mechanics is that the spear is thrown at a very fast speed, exploding into a huge brimstone inferno on impact, dealing a huge DPS
The melee variantâs mechanics would be like the same mechanic as most spears does but it shoots hi-velocity brimstone energies towards the enemies, dealing massive damage to single target enemies, and it has infinite piercing.
proven relic
can i add onto somoene elses suggestion? is that an okay thing to do?
faint rivet
You can give them feedback, and then they themseles can add it if they think it's a good idea
proven relic
i was going to add onto @neat nexus and say, just make it so that corruption/crimson can't spread onto the jungle
i can swear that in the vanilla game, it wasn't able to
am i just mad?
faint rivet
You're just mad
Why'd we make the game more painful for ourselves outside of the fully optional Revengeance and Death modes
proven relic
exactly for those reasons
i remember that the hallow can't spread onto jungle grass
ruby cobalt
Hallow can't, corruption can.
proven relic
because sometimes it would spawn in the jungle when entering hard mode, but it would only be kinda interweaved
ruby cobalt
Vanilla behavior.
proven relic
yeah. please no corrupt jungle
and i think green sollution turns jungle back to normal, doesn't it?
because you can't convert mud blocks to be regular forest grass blocks
only jungle grass is capable of growing on mud, i thought (aside from glowing blue mushroom grass)
neat nexus
yeah, when you remove the corruptions in the jungle with green solution it becomes normal earth blocks
ruby cobalt
Corruption/Crimson doesn't convert mud, it replaces it with dirt.
neat nexus
ikr, I suggested the dark green solution to make the inverted effect / restore
fervent zealot
honestly vanilla needs to step up their game and actually make corr/crim properly convert jungle instead of ruining it
neat nexus
+1
ashen warren
Dark green solution already exists in 2 mods, luiafk and solutions mod
languid dome
may I ask what inspired the Astral Infection? And also why it doesn't spread like one?
ashen warren
Calamity should not become just every single mod condensed into one
faint rivet
Doesn't spread like one 'cause it's just annoying to have even more thing spreading over your world
languid dome
just due to it being annoying?
faint rivet
I presume
ashen warren
Could've sworn astral spread
ashen warren
Only spreads if you clementate.
Clentaminate*
Beable??
Why is it that everyone thinks that calamity "needs" to have a fuckload more QoL stuff?
It has plenty as it is.
Wow what timing with zachs suggestion 
eager palm
Why is it that everyone thinks that calamity needs more weapons at the part of progression where there are none needed
fervent zealot
give us post golem rogue weapons or give us death
ashen warren
Balance is complete ngl
little raptor
auto reused bombs ? how the fuck
eager palm
r/woosh
fervent zealot
so what, after i finish masodeathdefiledhollowring, i'll just become god?
ashen warren
Yes.
fervent zealot
@languid dome not gonna happen, fab hates spreading biomes
ashen warren
Condense it into one message
sleek wigeon
@magic verge considering how you generally get those things pre boss when you decide to fish and crate potions exist anyhow and arent terribly difficult to craft, i see no issue
ruby cobalt
Not only he hates spreading biomes, but IIRC the whole process of spreading involves looping though an entire world.
So you can wave the whole "make astral spread" bye-bye.
ashen warren
Make the desert spread 
jovial spire
Make everything spread tbh, cant wait for my world to become all wood blocks
languid dome
xD
devout seal
@clear basin Believe me, alot of people would want that.
But, it'd be incredibly difficult to do so.
ashen warren
Copyright mainly
clear basin
I know
ashen warren
Also funding
neat nexus
make the space spreads 
clear basin
Yes it would be hard to do but maybe a few people could work on that specifically
Just a suggestion not gospel
wheat zenith
99% sure relogic wouldn't allow it
lost agate
Because copyright
worthy fiber
Especially considering the process Dokuro went with the album thing
wheat zenith
sweet, I was gonna bring that up but I couldn't remember if it was public or not
yeah, that's what I was thinking of
ruby cobalt
Nah, it's very much public.
wheat zenith
I had talked to another content-creator around the same time who was told the same thing, which broke my brain
fossil torrent
Yeah relogic wouldn't allow that right, even if most would adore it and fab would make epic money off it
wheat zenith
ruby cobalt
"We're removing your dislike button. Fuck you btw."
simple sigil
excuse me what
simple sigil
That has to be a joke
ashen warren
wheat zenith
they did it to comments (but left the feature in) so its not that wild of a stretch
might be getting a little off-topic though 
simple sigil
If youtube actually removes the dislike button, I can guarantee you everyone will hate that
Back on topic though
ruby cobalt
https://www.news18.com/news/tech/youtube-wants-creators-suggestions-to-curb-misuse-of-dislike-button-2023001.html
might be fat lies, but yeah, offtopic, yadda yadda, shoo out of here or get on topic or else
fossil torrent
Yeah why the fuck did they remove any effect of disliking comments
Removing that from VIDEOS ASWELL would just ruin the whole website even further, it'd make any video viewed by many more popular, however bad and disliked it is
Like look at Rewind 2019, it has 2.5m likes and 15m dislikes, if you remove the dislikes, it looks like a good video
sorry for offtopicing btw
pls don't drill me drh
lost agate
But what if i do? 
No but really, if you wanna continue this convo go to #general-talk or #general-media
fossil torrent
Yeah wasn't planning to
simple sigil
abusing the dislike button
lost agate
AS I SAID, Go to #general-talk
clear basin
Bye
radiant pawn
calamity merchandise
west prairie
id buy calamity merch but considering that re-logic wouldnt let dokuro sell his music i dont think theyd let fabsol sell a slime god pillow
simple sigil
Re-Logic
REE-Logic
raw patio
Didn't Dokuro just release his album tho?
opal barn
He did yeah
devout seal
after going through like 50 hoops
west prairie
yep, and ONLY on bandcamp
fossil torrent
Invasions are cancer tho
gusty geode
That's debatable
But if that were the general consensus, why is it essential to grind your way through both the Pumpkin and Frost Moons however many dozens of times to get end-game gear
gusty geode
It's been brought up before, but I think a really cool invasion would be a post-SCal one where Yharim sends all his remaining forces at you all at once, all leading up to him fighting you himself
I mean, we hear about Yharim's grand army all the time in the lore, but we never actually get to see most of it
Why is that?
vestal comet
Oof
gusty geode
It doesn't even need to be an invasion, maybe just new post-DoG/Yharon spawns in the Jungle and/or Temple
Aw, I missed it
What was it
ruby cobalt
add #memes
because we need memes in our life and I personally want a memedump
yeah, that was it
gusty geode
Every other mod server has one
ruby cobalt
that's why we're different
there's no need for a meme channel here
every time one appeared it became a cesspool of degeneracy
vestal elbow
Lorde gives people PTSD idk
ruby cobalt
see: #offtopic and #wormhell
lost agate
Oh god that name already sounds bad
rotund plaza
Could do, potentially, though I feel like that would be better as a wave-style deal in the vein of frost moon or old one's army.
hasty wigeon
rotund plaza
Boss Rush is a separate thing from a wave-style, I would say
ashen warren
Expand on blood moon?
So getting blood orbs isn't just popping a Zerg while putting a paperweight on the mouse with the AotE equipped
rotund plaza
AotE?
simple plank
lost agate
Elements*
ashen warren
So making the blood moon a wave like event would work?
rotund plaza
eh
ashen warren
I mean, you got the other two moons with progression
rotund plaza
since it's randomized and gives you no warning, I'd say no
you have to trigger most of them, the only ones you don't are goblin armies and pirate attacks
ashen warren
Dude cosmolight
Blood moon is skippable af
Wheras the goblins and such don't go away
rotund plaza
well, goblins and pirates stop being a threat after you've gotten your first hardmode ore
ashen warren
Blood moons are a threat?
rotund plaza
this would be something way tougher
if we put in the combat idea we're throwing around, then yeah
too much of one
obtuse thicket
i thought I'd ask here, what are the '!' reactions on the recent suggestions for?
rotund plaza
having to trigger things manually is far safer and would prevent people being just screwed over like "whoops, look at this invasionary force, oh you haven't got your stuff on you? too bad bitch"
ashen warren
obtuse thicket
ah thanks
hollow shell
@steep island Late as fuck but could you add a reason to your bomb suggestion
For completion's sake
steep island
Ah okay
rotund plaza
don't feel like making a randomized event so dangerous under any circumstance
so forcing it to be a triggerable thing instead would probably be better.
steep island
Done
hollow shell
Aight thanks
ashen warren
Thing is, Goblin army should be only triggerable
It does provide an essential resource
Much like blood moon and the solar eclipse.
But if you get stuck in an invasion with no weapons/way to escape, that's your own fault.
rotund plaza
what resource does a goblin army provide, aside from the tinkerer? you don't have to grind the goblin army for anything in particular that I know of
though, my point is just that a random event shouldn't be so dangerous
rotund plaza
Yeah.
It's fine when I trigger it but when it just occurs it throws everything out of whack
ashen warren
That's why cosmolight exists
ashen warren
Namely bc they have about 5 unique enemies that can be defeated with copper shortsword
Also, in every other moon related event, there is some sort of buffed miniboss
rotund plaza
Well, Frost and Pumpkin Moons are both triggerable events; the only counterpart that the Solar Eclipse has is the Blood Moon
They're very much separate, I would say.
I wouldn't be opposed to adding a miniboss to the blood moon, but turning it into a wave combat deal or an invasion, and just letting that appear randomly seems like a massive dick move
ashen warren
Perhaps a middle ground could be reached by simply adding in the wave system after Plantera or so, where the other random event becomes relevant.
I.E. the solar eclipse
rotund plaza
I still think that having it be potentially random is a terrible idea
Just way too much to account for
ashen warren
Post ml then?
My reasoning being that you'd have a decent enough weapon at this point to not be spawn killed
rotund plaza
well, the idea is to make it very threatening like the frost moon or invasions when you first can fight them
so...you wouldn't, actually
cause it'd be balanced to be really tough
making it randomized along with a blood moon would also make it tougher to reliably grind for materials, the way I'm thinking of how that could possibly work, and ultimately just end up feeling like a big ol' "fuck you" to players
ashen warren
Thing is, a blood moon is never too much of an issue to be considered a "fuck you". After all, you can simply escape it by heading underground, or just turn it off by using daylight or the cosmolight.
This applies to the solar eclipse as well.
And do mind that adding a powerful miniboss like the other moons would, by logic, mean that said miniboss would have to drop huge amounts of blood orbs.
rotund plaza
consider, I didn't even so much as know that cosmolight existed 'til literally just now when you were talking about it and I looked it up
ashen warren
It really helps
rotund plaza
not everyone will know about the easy solutions
or have it directly on them, either
ashen warren
Going underground isn't that hard
rotund plaza
like I said, just turning the entire thing into a wave or invasionary event just doesn't seem like a good idea. a miniboss I'm not against, though.
ashen warren
But to implement the boss correctly, the wave system would have to be adopted. As to alert unaware players
Nobody likes it when mothron yeets themselves out of nowhere.
And then knocks half of your health off.
rotund plaza
is it not possible to give warning as to when the miniboss appears?
ashen warren
The wave system
For one, if you get late game, the constant stream of 'Boss has awoken' and 'Boss has been defeated' would get really spammy really fast
sleek wigeon
Fabsol doesnt like programming events
ashen warren
Yeah
sleek wigeon
so there wont be any anytime soon.
gusty geode
"A particularly strong creature of the (event name) is nearby!"
ashen warren
Something is approaching.
unique vector
might as well rework blood moon to be more interesting than actually adding a new event
novel pebble
Blood moon is a potion creation event, It should stay like that 
unique vector
it's also a "haha just stand still and spam a weapon" in post-ml
gusty geode
I think, instead of having all enemies drop small amounts of Blood Orbs, have one or more new enemies, most likely one similar to the Blood Zombies or Dripplers, drop a larger haul of them
And said enemies should receive a buff late game so it isn't just "oh yay, new potion materials"
radiant pawn
going underground might not help that much for blood moon
since the spawn rates are already buffed
no matter where you go
the blood moon spawn rate is there
gusty geode
Actually, maybe the event's difficulty could be connected to the Blood Orbs themselves
Every time a Blood Moon starts, a counter begins that keeps track of how many Blood Orbs you've collected, and the higher that counter goes, the more dangerous the enemies that spawn become
It becomes a risk-reward scenario, where you've gotta contend with bigger baddies if you want more Blood Orbs
tropic yoke
How does Demon Flame Dye sound?
fervent zealot
edgy tbh
tropic yoke
Adding a nice bit of end-game vanity.
tough trail
just.. no hades.. please..
radiant pawn
inb4 someone made a hades armour
tropic yoke
Maybe a mix between the flame and rainbow effects.
But not rainbow cuz dat's not demon flames
hollow shell
@novel vine Aww, that's the fun of it tho
(and don't worry all the 65+ stuff will get delivered eventually
I'm just a silly and busy boy)
novel vine
If it's required for lore purposes then that's aight, but maybe there should be some consistency. Maybe more fun items in this vein?
Also Monsoon has the same issue (unless it got changed recently, no wifi and weeks old patch) where it doesn't tell you anything it does. I used it with ichor arrows for the longest time and only recently discovered the tornados
heavy mural
Doesn't cursed just means Calamitas has a 1/3 of spawning every night?
hollow shell
No
That's Death Mode
(not just Calamitas and not all the time, she just can spawn naturally at a certain point)
novel vine
@terrarium I like the idea of an upgraded counter scarf but it's already as powerful as it needs to be. Also, asgard's valor gives a dash that doesn't bonk you back like SoC.
hollow shell
Not sure what that suggestion has to do with grinding @reef mountain
clear basin
If they add bonemeal at least change the name
novel vine
Miracle grow
ashen warren
Minecraft reference
hollow shell
bonegrowâ˘
ashen warren
Skelegroâ˘
novel vine
Are you saying "bone meal" in itself is a Minecraft reference?
ashen warren
Terraria is pretty much 2D minecraft 
hollow shell
@violet tusk Who does this apply to?
fading nymph
megagrowth
ashen warren
I think that's for the suggestion
hollow shell
Okay but why?
ashen warren
The achievement one
novel vine
Fauna Flourish
ashen warren
Yeah, Fanboi's suggestion is for a suggestion that introduced catchy sounding achievements.
opal barn
@violet tusk Revengeance mode requires different strats than Death Mode
ashen warren
Meta AF
ashen warren
Oh
Waitaminute, that's an actual thing. Oof
definitely does
I tried out rev scal for a good few cracks at it, the amount of space you have in rev is alien to me now 
Git gud lol
i'm perfectly fine not getting UT though, death was more than enough for me
radiant meadow
yeah, that won't happen
reef mountain
asgards valor takes ages to grind for, which is a bit of a problem.
the knockback resistance is pretty nice, but having to grind an ankh shield, even with the crafting recipes, is just tedious.
fervent zealot
no, it really isn't
reef mountain
grinding for 12 accs?
fervent zealot
haha 12 accs such a terrible grind when most if not all have easy crafting recipes
reef mountain
even if it isn't absolutely unbearable, people shouldn't have to grind that much.
fervent zealot
haha no
fresh harbor
All of them are pretty easy to get imo
fervent zealot
if you don't want to grind you don't play terraria or calamity
reef mountain
all are easy to get, but together they're annoying as hell.
fresh harbor
Slime god takes care of nazar, 2 minutes in the jungle gets you a bezoar
The rest you just craft with common materials
reef mountain
terraria, at least vanilla, does not require tedious grinding.
fresh harbor
But
In vanilla you have the ankh shield without recipes
AND the cellphone without desert scourge
fervent zealot
and the various underground accessories, and the RoD, and phm metal armors, and lunar armors, and earlyhm metals, and banners, and...
the list goes on.
reef mountain
these are merely novalty items that are not necessary to get, a good dodging accessory is necessary for calamity players..
fresh harbor
If you want to see real grinding, make a soul of the universe
fresh harbor
I lasted whole playthroughs with scarf, lmao
reef mountain
yeah, which is why i want a buffed vershion now that it's nerfed.
fervent zealot
or you can. . . yknow, not use a dash
reef mountain
and get hit all the time???
reef mountain
they are in calamity due to quick, bullet-spamming bosses.
fresh harbor
Try nohitting bosses without a dash
fervent zealot
no, they aren't in calamity
reef mountain
astrum deus is mad.
fervent zealot
the only bosses i've been unable to do dashless on death are uh
gimme a sec, the number is tiny
yharon and pbg
reef mountain
and? what build do you run?
fervent zealot
let's see, pretty much all damage accessories save for mobility (moab for pbg, w/e best tier tracers avalible are for yharon)
reef mountain
even so, there are plenty of people who needs a good dash to survive.
fervent zealot
if you think the grind for valor is too bad, just learn to play without dashes
fresh harbor
If ya don't want to get an ankh shield, just use the master ninja
Big dash, chance to avoid damage
:/
reef mountain
my suggestions are just low-grinding alternatives, not replacements.
i've seen a lot of people who complains about the grind in calamity, after all.
fervent zealot
those people are stupid, the grind in calamity is nothing compared to any major grind
reef mountain
some even quit for this reason.
fervent zealot
but yeah, valor already exists, so a post plant dash alt is useless
reef mountain
in order for valor to be actually resonably obtainable, people must change the ankh shield to a frigid bulwark.
seriously that thing is a godsend.
fervent zealot
what do you even mean by usable
valor is already the meta acessory, 99% of people can't play without it
fervent zealot
if you mean recipe wise, still no
ankh shield is a fine grind
reef mountain
as far as i know barely anyone uses it.
radiant meadow
and frigid bulwark goes into rampart
fervent zealot
^ as well
putting rampart into valor would make valor fucking broken, don't even suggest that
reef mountain
not rampart, bulwark.
tiny rivet
i donât see why you would suggest upgrading the counter scarf with a tabi when the tabi makes pretty much the exact same thing minus the 20% true damage with better dash
reef mountain
longer dash.
fervent zealot
if you want a longer dash, make valor
reef mountain
and it solves the problem with people hating calamity due to too much grinding.
fervent zealot
the people who hate calamity grinds can begone
calamity grinds are fine.
reef mountain
it is pretty grindy compared to vanilla.
fresh harbor
Fargo grinds 
tiny rivet
it is a bit grindier but it is really not that bad
fervent zealot
w e l l , y e s .
i t h a s m o r e c o n t e n t t h a n v a n i l l a. i t h a s t o b e g r i n d i e r t o b a l a n c e t h i s .
tiny rivet
just turn on defiled if ur that concerned about grind
fervent zealot
how do you not have common sense enough to figure that out
quiet abyss
-> vanilla doesnt have zerg potions or recipes for ankh shield materials
-> neither does it have blood orbs for potion grinds
Also this
fresh harbor
Also Zerg + Defiled = Grinds in 3 sec
fervent zealot
or just have good luck hahaues
tiny rivet
10 points into luck
quiet abyss
Calamity already reduces a lot of its grinding with zerg potions and adding recipes to vanilla items
brazen wedge
ye
fervent zealot
some of vanilla's grinds are so fucking atrocious i won't even do them
and i've made ataraxia and SoE legit
tiny rivet
you can reduce grinding even further with imk, the reduce grinding mod, or just make ur own recipes in a small mod itâs really not that hard
runic mesa
calamity does have some grinding issues, mainly with lategame bosses(wanting a certain wep that is only a boss drop from DoG, per se), but compared to vanilla ankh shield and cellphone, those are nothing
tiny rivet
Ankh Shield, Cell Phone, Rod of Discord, pretty bad grinds in vanilla
runic mesa
also good suggestion(?):
add an item that lets you choose a boss drop (similar to IOU an item) to all treasure bags
reason being some boss drops are necessary to late game progression, and killing a difficult boss and getting a useless weapon hurts
fervent zealot
honestly instead of doing that just add imksushi boss loot swap token support
runic mesa
wait imk has that? havent used it in a while, so i may have missed that/not remembered it
fervent zealot
let the people who want to suffer, suffer, and let the people who desire reduced grinding have their methods
and yeah, it has that, but it only works for vanilla stuff by default
runic mesa
ah. cool, thanks for telling me there is a way to figure out how to do it
hearty yew
@violet tusk A lot of nohits are harder on Rev than Death because you can't phase skip with obnoxious adrenaline damage
So UT / DI aren't comparable in difficulty
They have different hard points
fervent zealot
like providence, and also perfs
runic mesa
neat
Suggestion idea:
The Dragon's Flare (yoyo)
On hit, it creates a infernado that is the height of the player that fades after 5 seconds, inflicts Dragon's Flame debuff on hit( 250 damage per second) for 3 seconds and it has infinite flight time
Dropped by yharon, and it is supposed to be a post yharon, pre SCal yoyo
thoughts?
fervent zealot
honestly just make it spawn short lived infernados every hit rather
it'd be more consistient with other postml yoyos then
runic mesa
k
fervent zealot
other than that yes please no more obliterator for scal sounds lovely
runic mesa
thats what ive been thinking
im going to attempt to sprite the yoyo in flight first
also there would be a max of 10 infernadoes at a time, if another would spawn, the oldest fades
or should it be 15?
ashen warren
@vestal comet Wouldn't it be better to just add vampire knives/Scourge of the corruptor crafting recipes?
Bc being able to nanotech and insignia one item sounds OP
vestal comet
Maybe, but the effect could be applied to throwing style melee weps
vestal comet
In my description i said you cant combine them
Throwing style melee weps
Not throwing
ashen warren
So, somebody could switch between helms and still have a good weapon?
vestal comet
Yes
ashen warren
It sounds cheesy somehow, and it can be solved other ways. But I'll star it anyways, as it seems okay.
mint ginkgo
couldn't you find vamp knives/scourge of the corruptor on the evil island?
ashen warren
ah, but only ONE
In a mod where there are multiple recipes for that one item
Switching classes when you can get scourge of the cosmos isn't hard
fervent zealot
just make it right click to convert and rip off fargo'sâ˘
ashen warren
If you crafted the wrong one it takes 10 minutes tops
Craft voodoo dolls, buy a portabulb, farm WoF for key and kill plant
hardy wing
yea right click switch smh â˘
earnest raptor
Devourer of Beasts
400 melee damage
Post-DoG true melee shortsword
Inflicts God Slayer Inferno
Feed your dog
Stabby at player DoG's final phase head, that executes a biting animation. Ignores immunity frames.
If enemy have less 5000 hp, it's actually devoured and player take random buff to damage, defense, crit chance and life regeneration.
If you deal a more that 100000 damage with DoB, you can summon a temporary powerful mechworm to 10 second. But charging that ability on any dummy takes a 10 times more damage.
Craft: 12 Cosmilite Bars + Armored Shell + Twisting Nether + Dark Plasma @ Draedon's Forge
Decent or needs changes?
ashen warren
Sounds like Apotheosis with less steps
sudden quail
I get that English isn't your first language, but the ONLY part of that description I could understand was: Ignores immunity frames. If enemy have less 5000 hp, it's actually devoured and player take random buff to damage, defense, crit chance and life regeneration.
hollow shell
Current HP, not MaxHP
also just imagine Apotheosis's projectile except directly in front of the player, and not flinging extra projectiles everywhere
The bit about the mechworm definitely needs to be reworded though
radiant meadow
i mean, void has less than 5000 at max
unique vector
100000 dmg + summons mechworm
not sure bout the second part
something about dummy being attacked makes dmg x10
hollow shell
Pretty sure
it's
Every 100,000 damage you deal, total, with Devourer of Beasts
it summons a Mechworm minion for 10 seconds
But if you damage a dummy, it instead takes 1,000,000 damage to summon it
Still not sure how the dummy bit would work, considering you could mix in dummy hits with enemy hits in practice
Maybe if you deal any damage to a dummy ever in that current cycle of 100,000, the current damage requirement for the next summoning gets pushed way back
If this gets implemented it'd need an insane wiki page
ashen warren
Now I hope it gets implemented
earnest raptor
@hollow shellđ¤
Devourer of Beasts
400 melee damage
Post-DoG true melee shortsword
Inflicts God Slayer Inferno
Feed your dog
Stabby at player DoG's final phase head (6 blocks range) , that executes a biting animation. Ignores immunity frames.
If enemy have less 5000 hp, it's actually devoured and player take random buff to damage, defense, crit chance and life regeneration. That don't work, if enemy recieve only 1 damage from that weapon.
Craft: 12 Cosmilite Bars + Armored Shell + Twisting Nether + Dark Plasma @ Draedon's Forge
Better?
fading nymph
i mean, it's an interesting concept
round falcon
it should be any non-boss enemy with below 3000 life imo
fading nymph
yeah probably
earnest raptor
Not many enemies have a many hp.
24000 dps shreds everything monster even on darksuh eclipse.
rapid pivot
Any thoughts on my suggestion?
rapid pivot
From the Spore Sac, yeah.
rapid pivot
Presumably, the same range as the Spore Sac's spores.
The Spore Sac's 'spores' go towards enemies in a 50-meter range.
placid moth
so homing spores
rapid pivot
Calamity basically doesn't ever touch the Spore Sac, so why not?
frail mantle
btw please note that i wrote this suggestion while still shaking in anger over BoC's bitchass random teleports ruining his nohit, so it might not really be the best reason ever
ashen warren
Dont worry , youre not alone
frail mantle
that's a relief
tbh
marsh gust
funny how im enjoying my deaths fighting boc with a blowpipe
faint rivet
Masochist
ashen warren
Even when not nohitting, his teleports suck ass
faint rivet
Yep
I can imagine that
There's a reason why I always pick Corruption, and disliking BoC even in vanilla is that
ashen warren
More RNG bullshit again
faint rivet
ivory matrix
thats uhh
worthy fiber
@ancient dragon bad suggestion
faint rivet
ancient dragon
@surreal crescent Don't do that you twerp.
proven tide
not even a mod training dummy
frail mantle
that's not a bad suggestion, that's a meme suggestion
ruby cobalt
Na like, that's a warn.
proven tide
Oh no, he added a comma
surreal crescent
UwU
faint rivet
Lol
fossil torrent
What did they do lol
faint rivet
Suggest something along the lines of "add more superbosses" 
fossil torrent
hollow shell
@gusty geode Why not just use Art's #game-builds for game builds, and Art's #literature (or hell, the entire literature-dedicated server) for lore discussion?
bitter topaz
doesn't the art server exist due to a mixture of nobody wanting to bloat this one with millions of channels, along with giving people who care about art a dedicated space?
frail mantle
Yea
bitter topaz
bootlegging parts of the art server kinda defeats the purpose of the art server existing in the first place
fandom server
fandom people
sorry what? i don't even understand what the hell that's supposed to mean
languid dome
So is it safe to drop all 4 guns I made into the suggestions all at once?
lost agate
I recommend you to put it in a doc if you want them all as one suggestion
languid dome
that was the plan to have each gun as a separate suggestion. Just after the first gun, the other guns need the previous guns to make
should I still put them in a doc?
languid dome
alright
quick dove
huh , i've never found any trouble with boc teleporting in me
languid dome
also, what if I'm not sure what I want them to be made with?
frail mantle
discuss it here
languid dome
well... here's what I have, the only things Ik are 100% in their recipes are the guns "older" models
there we go
frail mantle
what their recipes should be sorta depends on when they're supposed to be crafted
ruby cobalt
aether's whisper, but it's not aether's whisper
and it always eats mana
so imagine if mirror blade and guns had a child
placid moth
stop
languid dome
one way of looking at it I guess
ruby cobalt
No.
warm tinsel
I just kind of thought about this, but SCal and sentinels should get a bag?
Their drops are missable
cyan lagoon
SCal will most likely get one once she becomes a regular boss
so I'm gonna focus purely on the sentinels
If we add bags we'll probably have to make expert items as well
which isn't a bad thing since variety and all
heavy mural
Do you think scal will get nerfed for her transition from super boss to normal boss?
cyan lagoon
she will
heavy mural
cyan lagoon
that's confirmed and set in stone by the man himself
lost agate
Will it make the fight less hectic or just like dmg nerfs?
Or did fabbo just say "yeah a nerf"
cyan lagoon
not sure
heavy mural
Inb4 that's what lol means
cyan lagoon
it's not tied to lol/lul of course
lost agate
Imo, it should be a nerf in how many bullets you can potentially have on screen
Maybe less bullets when abyssals explode idk
But thats up to fab so....
marsh gust
what we need is donuts from provi showing up on map
marsh gust
^ the reason why its not in
languid dome
what are the odds people will actually look at my doc?
ruby cobalt
maybe%
marsh gust
those who gives stars should probably have looked into the doc
languid dome
yeah... but then there are probably a lot more people who see the doc and won't even bother looking because its a doc
oh, devs haven't even seen it
ruby cobalt
You mean, any mod.
languid dome
oh yeah forgot its the mods who need to review it
sinful swallow
how about a shotgun that shoots more bullets the longer you charge it for
or does that exist already
sly gale
the lunar fragments appear on them ap
ashen warren
It not
round falcon
i've seen a mod do smth like that
the shotgun thing
every r-click adds another bullet
rapid folio
Hey, sorry to interupt, this is something I've asked about in the past but I've finally finished the full idea and wanted to ask for feedback before I actually suggest it
Grazing
A Graze system that adds 250-300 rage (maybe amount could scale to damage) for projectiles you narrowly dodge buring boss fights.
Since I have no knowledge of Terraria coding, I don't know exactly how this could be implemented, here's one way that I think it could be done:
The system adds a secondary "Hitbox" to specific projectiles (or the boss itself, depending on the boss of course. Ex. Eye of Cthulu) that is slightly bigger than the standard hitbox that damages you, adding a set amount of rage when you "touch" it.
To avoid basically just facetanking the projectiles while still getting the "graze rage", there could a set cooldown or delay in time the rage is actually added, if damage is taken in that spam of time, only regular rage would be added instead.
: This could add a bit more of a skill factor to boss fights and nohit runs "high risk, high reward" system other than adrenaline.
heavy mural
That's called touhou with a reward that isn't points 
charred gate
I'd honestly like that. And maybe change it from rage to adrenaline, making it even more risk/reward.
You risk losing adrenaline, or gaining a LOT.
And yes, while grazing is in many bullet-hell games, I don't know of any that actually have gravity and physics tied to it.
ashen warren
so in other words, you now take damage from many more things due to hitboxes being larger than they may appear
charred gate
Which makes dodging both easier and harder in Terraria.
sinful violet
just make the hitbox of the player like the hitbox of bullethell games at that point
ashen warren
charred gate
Thoughts?
charred gate
I discovered the Webgun is actually pretty useful early-game, and there aren't really ranged weapons that deal AoE constant damage.
cyan lagoon
i think he got it confused with thorium's
cyan lagoon
charred gate
Sorry.
cyan lagoon
it's fine
ruby cobalt
It happens, dw.
cyan lagoon
you can suggest it in thoriums discord though if you make changes
charred gate
Nah, removed it.
rapid folio
If I were to change it so graze gives adrenaline instead of rage, how much added would be good idea?
frail mantle
i suppose the devs would decide that if it gets implemented
charred gate
Profane Spark
Placeable light source that does NOT require a block to support it, provides a very large amount of light, functions underwater.
Recipe
3 Unholy Essence
3 Crystal Shards?
33 Torches
Any thoughts?
sleek wigeon
not sure thats even possible
charred gate
Shit, you're probably right. That would explain why something like it doesn't already exist in other mods.
I guess just have it work like an ichor or cursed flame torch then, but with a unique sprite and a greatly increased light radius and brightness.
delicate raft
It isn't?
I mean, if it's a torch then it's probably not possible
But can't a block that emits light be possible to make?
sleek wigeon
Not without having another block to support it, at least at first
delicate raft
Well, to place it of course
sleek wigeon
the way i under stood the suggestion is that you would be able to place it in the air
tepid root
Like a pernemant ice rod that emits light đ¤
delicate raft
Oh, I thought he meant that it didn't need a block to be there
charred gate
Ye
charred gate
Well, not quite what you mean
What MyFavorite said
You're able to just place it in the air
elder sparrow
On paper you could probably use a script similar to ice rod's
And give it an indefinite timer
I think theres no point on that anyway regardless
fresh harbor
@charred gate luiafk's unlimited house enabler does that
Infinite placeable, no need to be supported by other blocks, very bright light source that works underwater
west prairie
@charred gate i approve and will sprite said torch
since i sprited most of the profaned placeables
charred gate
You did? You did a good job, man!
west prairie
thx-- i didn't do the profaned rock but i did do everything else
clear briar
west prairie
the rune brick and crystal are getting replaced with something new i made ofc
hollow shell
@teal shoal wdym "remove it from class accessories"?
ruby cobalt
Elemental Gauntlet, Quiver, etc
radiant meadow
yeah, remove the chance to kill normal enemies instantly from statis' belt of curses, nanotech, ele gauntlet, ele quiver, and ethereal talisman
hollow shell
Oh I see
He meant the instakill feature and not
Dimensional Soul Artifact
ruby cobalt
formatting is ass, yea
hollow shell
Could probably be worded better
hollow shell
I didnt get it . _.
ruby cobalt
ruby cobalt
teal shoal
yea my formatting is shit
ashen warren
What do you think of a glass cannon accesory, maybe made from something like the reaper tooth necklace and determination breaker? Or maybe with the shark tooth necklace so it can be gotten much earlier. i am thinking high armor penetration with reduced invuln frames on enemies, but another downside that isnt just instant death after taking damage so it isnt broken on no hits
tired haven
I smell deltarune in #suggestions-voting
fervent zealot
.
rapid folio
.
fervent zealot
i think i just lost a lot of respect for you
grazing was a thing long before deltarune
vestal elbow
I smell 2hu
rapid folio
I've been getting alot of Touhou and deltarune with that suggestion, lol
tired haven
Let's be honest, there was really small chance this suggestion is about grazing itself and with no links to DR or 2hu