Tell me if I should post it
#suggestions-discussion
warm tinsel
Basically the idea is to add more Eldritch trash mobs but have them powerful as an impious immulator, buff the Martian Invasion Post-Moonlord/Providence and give it new and powerful drops to face Providence and Polterghast
Sentinels and DoG can be faced with Bloodflare and that's okay
They could also spawn in the Astral Infection as Infected Lifeforms
west prairie
or xeroc themed enemies
hollow socket
It doesn't get consumed
delicate raft
I don't get the point of that
hollow socket
to make ranger weapons stronger
west prairie
do rangers reeeeally need to be stronger tho
hollow socket
endgame, yes
ruby cobalt
No, they don't.
hollow socket
Why not?
spark flax
yeah Ranger is one of the best weapon types through nearly all of the game and then they're Just Okay endgame
They sure as hell don't need an absurdly overpowered endgame tool for no reason when the rest of the weapon types don't get anything
ancient atlas
^
spark flax
"10x stronger"
(X) Doubt
hollow socket
Well I like the idea
hollow socket
it's endgame
ancient atlas
ranged weapons being 10 times stronger means that a weapon like the anti-materiel rifle does 70,000 damage
does that not sound excessive
spark flax
Hold up let me go get the stats of the endgame ranged accessory
hollow socket
yes that's what I said
spark flax
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
ancient atlas
photoviscerator? haha, 1,650 damage won't hurt on a flamethrower with near infinite pierce. heavenly gale? pfft, 6,000 damage is a breeze. i'm not gonna be hitting any damage caps this way!
spark flax
10% increased ranged damage and 5% increased ranged critical strike chance
Part of the endgame Elemental Quiver accessory
This is an accessory that takes up a slot
hollow socket
I don't know what the mods or the devs say about it, but if they don't like the idea, then they don't need to hecking add it
spark flax
There's no accessory in Calamity that gives over a 20% damage boost without some kind of penalty as far as I can tell
Let alone a fucking accessory slot-less 1000% boost
ancient atlas
our overlaying point is that there will be more content to the game despite endgame being endgame right now. we do not need 10x more damage on what literally sounds cosmetic.
spark flax
tl;dr your suggestion is borderline troll-level and you should feel bad for yourself
dusty stirrup
I mean post-ml content that's not bosses will become a thing soon-ish, they're just not priority rn
spark flax
Anyways in other suggestion news just posted my Stardust Cell revamp I discussed yesterday
Feedback welcomed
ancient atlas
about how much of an increase is it?
because about 3% per Frenzied Cells stack sounds like a good median
spark flax
Yeah, something around there sounds reasonable, given they get an increased attack speed from Frenzied Cells as well so any more could be overpowered
somewhere between 3% and 5% anyways
hollow socket
tl;dr your suggestion is BORDERLINE TROLLING and you should feel bad for yourself because of Terraria. lol bye
ancient atlas
thanks for your input 👍
spark flax
>And nothing of importance was lost that day.
ancient atlas
anyways, how much would it stack
spark flax
up to 3 stacks maximum from what I've been considering
ancient atlas
playing summoner is basically just a dodging game while your minions do chip damage
sounds fair
lost agate
smh, why do people react to the "!"? 
spark flax
I've personally just starting doing it as a quick way to mark out "this suggestion is bad or doesn't conform to the rules"
But people probably aren't doing that
lost agate
i know what its for, but like why do people react to something that has to be deleted?
lost agate
the ! reaction i mean
ancient atlas
oh
spark flax
shrugs
ruby cobalt
Imaginary flex.
spark flax
I'll probably stop doing it then I guess
ancient atlas
i guess they just don't care that it has to be deleted
or are trying to use it in their own way, e.g lilith's way of using it
spark flax
I just felt like if enough people did it it'd be a good way to let mods know at a glance what posts are Against Da Rulez
lost agate
well thats not really the porpuse of it, but guess that could work
IF people actually react because of that
ruby cobalt
half the channel is against the rules tbh 
ancient atlas
^^^
ancient atlas
10x ranged damage 
spark flax
Obviously the best way to fix this is to give every class a scal-tier 10x damage buff station
This won't break mod compatibility at all
ruby cobalt
Shadowspec, huehue
spark flax
amirite
ruby cobalt
oh wait this ain't 10x and it has a drawback, nevermind
warm tinsel
I wanna try and say, some new Post-Moonlord lunar enemies.
Say, make them powerful in par with the Profaned enemies, make them lurk in the space biome and make them spawn during an eclipse and near the dungeon
It would also help to buff a possible Post-Moonlord Martian Invasion and give it unique weapons to face more efficiently the Polterghast in par with the Post-Providence power tier.
Basically the idea is to add more Eldritch trash mobs (maybe Xeroc themed like one of you suggested) but have them powerful as an impious immulator, and buff the Martian Invasion event in Post-Moonlord/Providence and give the Saucer new and powerful drops to face Providence and Polterghast in par with Bloodflare Tier equipment
Sentinels and DoG can be faced with Bloodflare and that's okay
They could also spawn in the Astral Infection as Infected Lifeforms
Sorry for the repost, but it seems the channel got taken over for a bit and I really want to see your feedback
spark flax
Sounds nifty tbh
keen nebula
No prehardmode ranged accessories yet??
devout seal
but.
why would polterghast need bloodflare gear
he can be beaten with lunar/xeroc or tarragon.
ashen warren
why is there a gjallarhorn in there
warm tinsel
I dunno, it just seems like Death Mode players could use a hand with that scaling, but I can modify the suggestion surely, tell me what's wrong
devout seal
@ashen warren what?
hollow shell
@ashen warren Give a reason?
ashen warren
Not even ui shaggy smh -10k stars
hollow shell
(also it'd help to word it like a suggestion instead of stating a fact)
Also iirc I don't think Fungal Clump interferes with immunity frames
Same deal as HotE
radiant meadow
It doesn't
but it takes up a buff slot
and it's kind of useless
it moves way too slow for yharon or doggo
and at that stage of the game, you tend to have a lot of buff potions and whatnot
honestly buff it so it's like the donuts and it'll be 10 times better
ashen warren
I don't think any summoner runs that ngl
radiant meadow
they really don't 
maybe they would if it was as fast as the donuts (and had as big of a range)
rapid pivot
What do you all think? Vampire knives as Rogue weps?
runic mesa
as long as there is still a melee version, im game
ashen warren
Honestly, I hate the vamp knives and rogue is my favorite class so No.
ashen warren
Vamp knives are really strong even with the lifesteal nerf
rapid pivot
Ooooh, a'ight.
ashen warren
I do think that the amount of lifesteal should be boosted a bit
But having vamp knives be finally not broken is A-OK in my book
Some changes to The Amalgam to make it actually usable.
- Increase the hitbox size of all effects.
- Massively increase the speed and range of the fungal clump.
- Massively increase the range and projectile speed of the fungal clump lifesteal but nerf the amount of healing by half or even more if necessary.
- Make the Leviathan trail drip toxic water projectiles akin to the brackish flasks projectiles.
- Make all damage sources on The Amalgam classless or change the damage boost to increase summon damage only.
- Make all on-hit effects ignore immunity frames in rev+
Let me know what you think, I'll post it tomorrow or maybe I won't if I suddenly don't like the idea.
runic mesa
i like it
heavy mural
That's exactly why Vampire knives are staying the same
Because they're Throwing Knives 
delicate raft
Revengeance mode is for worlds, not characters
hollow shell
@rapid pivot ^
hollow shell
Why would there be a Rev indicator on the character select
if Rev is a property of worlds
Using the Revengeance item turns the world into Revengeance Mode
The character can go into an Expert world and have no Adrenaline
and an old character can enter the world that Revengeance was used in and will have Adrenaline
tropic yoke
So I have a miniature storm weaver that can be 1 of 3 things...
1: Boss minion
2: Player minion
3: Post-SW enemy
Should I make another worm staff?
ancient atlas
instead of making it a summoning weapon, make it a weapon like vilethorn 
fresh harbor
Isn't main menu stuff a royal pain in the ass to code?
Or are the world sprites easier to substitute?
tropic yoke
Well, the textures pack re-did the main menu’s thing
This sucks
My pfp and name don’t match
arctic notch
Lvl. 42 Endothermic Energy.
gaunt karma
hmm
hollow shell
@true valley That's Thorium Mod
true valley
this never happened 
hollow shell
(I recommend the "Which Mod Is This From" Mod)
gusty geode
A ton of suggestions from the last couple days need checking
Wasn't the old bot able to do that?
hollow shell
Nope
We tried to get it to deliver stuff
But Discord's API didn't allow for it
Delivering was always manual
ashen warren
discord's api doesn't allow for it? you mean sending a message or
frosty kindle
discord API is a little wonky
hollow shell
We were trying to get it to send a suggestion to another server after it reached a certain amount of reactions (stars)
At the time, Triv deemed it impossible
Dunno if it has since become possible
ashen warren
uhm, i'm fairly sure that's possible
lemme dig around in the jdocs and i'll get back to you on that one
hollow shell
Alrighty
frosty kindle
i do see some bots that send/forward certain messages etc. when it has enough reactions of a certain type
they mainly exist on big Global Emote servers tho
hollow shell
The current system, while imperfect because humans, I do kinda like over a fully automated one due to our ability to tag suggestions in the dev server
Based on the effort required, what concepts it entails, etc
(tagging just meaning
having [High Effort], [New Weapon], etc in the same message that the image of the suggestion is attached to, alongside a summary)
frosty kindle
and things becoming a good habit of sorts
lost agate
Well mishi made an entire bot that stores all nohits and displays them, so i think she could do that
ashen warren
that one uses a database to store stuff ye
hollow shell
atm I'm more than certain you can't edit another user's message
If we could then it can become fully automated no problem
well
the delivery, that is
I'm implying that the devs would be able to tag suggestions that get automatically sent
ashen warren
editing another user's message is a nogo ye, alternative would be reactions to signify what's what
hollow shell
Those aren't searchable though
frosty kindle
also another problem to be encountered w/ the bot
hollow shell
If Fab wanted to go through a bunch of [Low Effort]s and knock em out, he can do that now, but he couldn't if the tags were signified by reactions
frosty kindle
it will still try send suggestions even if they're already in, or at least the Duplicate suggestions
unless there's a way to make sure the bot will never send a certain suggestion in if it has the "already done" reaction on it
some form of a blacklist
hollow shell
Well, it's probably possible to program it to not deliver suggestions that are bluechecked
ashen warren
there's a way to do that ye
hollow shell
Check if it's a reaction
ashen warren
as for tags there is another way for it
frosty kindle
check for (a certain reaction) such as bluecheck/already done
if so, ignore message
ashen warren
if it were to be done by bot, it could be something similar to nohit but a little more expanded on. in other words tags could be manually applied to a 'suggestion' which could get updated in the db. After you can lookup a tag to get say, the first 10 results and so on as 'pages' to prevent going over discord's char limit
hollow shell
Alright I just got a radical idea
If we react to a bot-delivered suggestion in the dev server with certain reactions, it adds them as tags
Like, reacting with ⚔ appends [Melee] to the end of the message
ashen warren
that could work too ye
frosty kindle
could use a bow and arrow for ranged, maybe?
hollow shell
Yeah we'll worry about the specifics later
frosty kindle
no need to include a gun, as ranged can be generalised into one icon maybe
etc. etc.
gaunt karma
You could have mandatory formatting for suggestions
like different categories
That way it'd be easy-ish for the bot to tag what kind of suggestion it is
You could also set it up so that if you send it wrong the bot deletes it and sends the person the proper formatting
lost agate
And you think everyone would follow that format?
quiet abyss
hollow shell
Yeah I'd rather not rely on the public's ability to tag their own suggestions
ashen warren
lost agate
Tbh
quiet abyss
I can already imagine the chaos of people not tagging correctly
hollow shell
We have enough trouble enforcing the current rules
quiet abyss
Indeed
gaunt karma
fair
sleek wadi
Emblem conversion recipes has reached 65+ stars
frank stratus
oh, when did we get a suggestion bot that...reacts with ! to stuff
ashen warren
fairly sure you can, hold the msg, go to reactions and swipe left on each reaction if on ios. Android requires the beta tho iirc
Doesn't work on the version I'm using (android) so ye
are you using the beta of android, or the live version
ruby cobalt
not using beta btw
ashen warren
that's probably why
elder sparrow
Ash Pulse sounds like the most fun weapon if pulled off correctly
I plan to have it be shot with sharp tweening and then it splits so it looks cool
In other words it goes fast and comes to a halt at exponential speed
Needs to be different from other weapons in that it's hard to hit but extremely rewarding, kind of like stellar cannon
ashen warren
There are definitely not the ones for Yharon included
sleek wadi
Those music boxes are coming next update
earnest raptor
Devourer of Beasts
345 melee damage
Post-DoG true melee shortsword
Inflicts God Slayer Inferno
Feed your dog
Stabby at player DoG's final phase head, that executes a biting animation. Ignores immunity frames.
If enemy have less 5000 hp, it's actually devoured and player take random buff to damage, defense, crit chance and life regeneration.
If you deal a more that 100000 damage with DoB, you can summon a powerful mechworm to 10 second. But charging that ability on any dummy takes 10 times more damage.
Craft: 12 Cosmilite Bars + Armored Shell + Twisting Nether + Dark Plasma @ Draedon's Forge
Decent?
gaunt karma
An instant kill at below 5k is a bit too good
imo
You can cut huge parts out of fights
ashen warren
5k would be a quarter of a second fyi
345 x 60 = 20,700
"Ignores immunity frames."
gaunt karma
okay well never mind that's barely even a dent
I mean 20k DPS is pretty decent for a shortsword
gaunt karma
They key word being shortsword
sleek wadi
By the point you can craft it 5k is nothing
gaunt karma
ttue
ashen warren
With crit and damage boosts it would be more like 62,100 - 82,800 DPS
345 x 3 = 1,035
345 x 4 = 1,380
1,035 x 60 = 62,100
1,380 x 60 = 82,800
ashen warren
Heh
ashen warren
4,840,000 (Yharon's DM health) divided by 62.1K is 77.9 or so seconds
gaunt karma
let's say average is 2/3rds of that (going off of world record 100 meter dash vs world record) and you've still got a pretty good DPS
ashen warren
155.8 second yharon P2 kill
gaunt karma
I mean you'd break a mouse and possibly your finger
earnest raptor
Which power you will from literally a DoG head? @ashen warren
gaunt karma
idk why I'm checking this
ashen warren
DoG would get fucked in seconds by yharon
Use a darksun fragment wep against DoG
Fight's suddenly really easy
charred gate
Or Apotheosis.
earnest raptor
Yeah
ashen warren
Apoth is a dev wep, different rules
earnest raptor
DoB is light version of Apoth.
charred gate
Fair point, Seq.
ashen warren
We needed that overhaul as useful
frail mantle
ok so remember that Perforator sentry suggestion i made yesterday
i'm creating a Hive Mind variant and i'm sorta lost on how it should work
heavy mural
Maybe like the hive but with different entities?
ashen warren
Spawns Mini Dank Creepers/Rains?
heavy mural
The thing spawns 4 different enemies so it could do like a cycle thing or a roulette
You got dank balls, devourers, the orbs that circle around it and do nothing, as well as soul eaters
ashen warren
iirc the orbs used to shoot lasers at you, maybe that's a good idea?
ashen warren
@placid moth Subsuming vortex and vivid clarity
quiet abyss
Voltaic Climax and Phoenix Flame Barrage ain't exo-tier as well.
ashen warren
Vclimax is nerfed
Sub vor was pretty dang good last time I played
voltaic's fallen from grace, and really isn't that great for scal, much better damage elsewhere
ashen warren
pre-scal would still include those
quiet abyss
You'll have to redo ya argument as well
ashen warren
yharon soul frags puts them at exo tier, the one before that is darksun tier tbh
Plague Hive
why do you have an accessory in a weapon?
Whats wrong with that
placid moth
It's part of the bee idea I had for it
ashen warren
Drat has yharims gift
the same thing happens with some other weps, like ele axes as well
Drat is exempt because nohit wep
quiet abyss
A few odd recipes here and there ain't too bad so long as it make senses.
quiet abyss
Elemental axe is a prime example
ashen warren
How?
Tool into wep is fine imo
Acc into wep isn't
it's uncommon is the point
acc into wep can happen, there just has to be good enough reason to warrant it
ashen warren
phoenix is darksun, yharim is post p2 iirc
quiet abyss
Yharim is post p2 ye
ashen warren
My main problem is that the plague hive would be actually useful for the weapon at hand
ashen warren
unless said weapon didn't stack with plague hive, and inherited it's effects
Tedium = bad
quiet abyss
Replace plague hive with plague cell canisters instead then?
ashen warren
that would free up an accessory slot
placid moth
plague cell canisters sound good actually.
ashen warren
Oh, it also makes it expert only
placid moth
thanks
ashen warren
plague hive is expert+? i didn't know that one tbh
normally idgaf about normal but some people care soo
!wiki Plague_Hive
red stormBOT
ashen warren
toxic heart and hive pack are epert only so it makes sense
faint rivet
Imagine caring if an acc is locked to expert+
ashen warren
is toxic heart even locked to expert, i didn't see it when glancing at the page
faint rivet
I do feel bad for normal mode players tho, stuck to 5 acc slots for the entire game, and don't even get upgrades past seraph
ashen warren
nvm it is i glanced in the wrong place
Toxic heart is pbg expert drop
seraph tracers with a gigantic scal arena mind you
faint rivet
quiet abyss
One thing I want to ask
faint rivet
I thought the expert arena was big, don't make me see normal
quiet abyss
By "Mistlepine" ya mean Mistlestorm?
quiet abyss
Other than that the suggestion is 👍
placid moth
thanks.
quiet abyss
Np
ashen warren
Tbh I like bees just cause the thought of shooting bees is already hilarious but when you couple it with the human resprite for scal that's gonna happen at some point..
placid moth
The Swarmer was irrelevant post-ml, and since it was so good for the ML fight, I wanted it to have an upgrade
ashen warren
Picturing scaring scal with bees is pretty funny ngl
placid moth
lol
quiet abyss
placid moth
i'd let fab decide the damage and debuffs though
faint rivet
Does spectralstorm have an upgrade
placid moth
but the use time and speed of the projectiles could be made faster.
ashen warren
Elemental blaster uses spectralstorm no?
Yea it does
Elemental blaster should have an upgrade imo, it's one of the only ranged weapons I find fun
placid moth
does any of the elemental weps have an upgrade
placid moth
oh cosmic immaterializer
ashen warren
Exo weps
ashen warren
All elemental except for blaster, lance and shiv iirc
placid moth
i uh, never rly used elemental ranged weps
always stuck to onyx chain blaster
pew pew
ashen warren
Flamethrower was legit stronk for provi when I played ranged last (about a month or 2 ago so a bit old)
BEES
did someone mention
bees?
ruby cobalt
ashen warren
plaguenades when tbh
next update i hope
wait simon is that an exo bee suggestion
im love you tbh
get your plaguenades and ill use it
faint rivet
Omg if plaguenades are less spaghet than beenades code imma be so happy lmao
languid dome
Do you think we could use a pre Moon Lord Hallow boss?
placid moth
Alicorn.
ashen warren
plz no
placid moth
it could be a viable suggestion
ashen warren
ive had enough from ravager or doucheron
placid moth
after all, the hallow is pretty hollowed in terms of content
ashen warren
providence
placid moth
maybe
languid dome
Wouldn't exactly call Provi a hallow boss...
ashen warren
ofc
Hallow kinda has the same amount of content as astral and people shit on astral all the time
Gets tiring, it's nice somebody pointed it out
languid dome
Astral at least has bosses that look "astral"
quiet abyss
Some more astral stuffs getting in next update
languid dome
when is said update?
languid dome
k
quiet abyss
If all goes well, mid-late february
quiet abyss
That's if it all goes well though.
If problems arise (which is likely, things that can go wrong likes to go wrong), then it'll be delayed a bit.
ashen warren
Anyway, hallow doesn't have a dedicated boss however those suggestions aren't accepted
Hell and hallow gotta share a boss rn
eager palm
Wtf
ashen warren
Signut spawns in hell
placid moth
nut
ashen warren
Hell has 2.5 bosses technically
placid moth
tru
faint rivet
placid moth
i cant believe dungeon has a shit ton of bosses
ashen warren
Dungeon has 2
placid moth
4, if you count calamity though.
faint rivet
I can't believe there's so many biomeless bosses 😔
faint rivet
Ye what
placid moth
i'd like to consider the cultist and skeletron as part of the dungeon
faint rivet
Disagreed
faint rivet
They may be related to the dungeon, but they don't get pissed that you're not in the dungeon
ashen warren
they're fought at the dungeon as opposed to in the dungeon
Polter, ceaseless, skele, and cultist
If we go by enrages then dungeon only has 1 boss
However that would mean astral has 0
quiet abyss
^
hollow shell
dont need to spawn em there
ashen warren
Boss suggestion..
quiet abyss
Boss suggestions are not accepted
languid dome
ah
cyan lagoon
who gives a care about old ones army
ashen warren
no one
opal barn
me actually
ashen warren
OOA ripoff that sounds even more boring, hah no
cyan lagoon
besides, it can stand on its own, but the suggestion first needs fleshing out
quiet abyss
And may I ask, what those "enemies" are?
If you're going to suggest an invasion kind of event, gives information on all the enemies appearing in it, or atleast general info.
placid moth
boss rush but with normal enemies
languid dome
maybe a boss rush style event with all the invasions in one?
languid dome
yup
languid dome
well Zynthes hasn't given a lot of info on what kind of invasion it is
like the enemies in it etc
ashen warren
boss rush but with normal enemies
Why I hate invasions
silk dock
Hm. Depending on the difficulty. Ill copypaste and post a more fleshed out one, after i get some sleep
languid dome
it could be what we're thinking, or it could be very different
ashen warren
Boss rush is fun because bosses are fun, killing fodder isn't fun
languid dome
idk, I kinda like mowing down crowds with an assault rifle
languid dome
guess it's just a gun user thing
silk dock
I could think of something
languid dome
speaking of guns I gotta finish 2 gun sprites then animate them for my next suggestion...
ashen warren
The only game that made killing fodder any kind of fun for me was dark souls 3, which is very different to terraria gameplay-wise
languid dome
well yeah DS is very different from terraria
ashen warren
Mainly because trash enemies are still a threat in dark souls, they aren't in terraria once you get a decent weapon
silk dock
I do have a idea that
languid dome
a lot of things aren't threats once you get a decent weapon
still is fun to mow em down
silk dock
The difficulty should be based on where you are at in terms of boss fights
As someone who has like
ashen warren
That hasn't worked so far
silk dock
Eh. True
ashen warren
Solar eclipse is a joke
ashen warren
(after yharon)
ruby cobalt
Which is why those are never accounted for.
Including people who go "HUE JUST UZ HLAEBUD CNANON" and "JUETD SKEP HM"
silk dock
Solar Eclipse? Ehh...i set a arena up with blue candles
languid dome
blue or water?
ashen warren
Imagine using godmode for a purpose that isn't building rage
Joke as in easy/notfun
silk dock
Water candle.
languid dome
stuff like godmode is something that starts off stupid fun but quickly gets boring
silk dock
Imagine using godmode because your a giant pussy that doesnt want difficulty
languid dome
xD
silk dock
When you godmode
It's fun
But after a while
You just enjoy the game less
Because your invincible
And that basically no one can beat you
And you destroy everyone
ashen warren
FYI your suggestion is gonna get buried if you sleep on it
I'd remove and resend later
silk dock
Kk
languid dome
when I finish my 4 weapons would it even be ok for me to resend them like that?
ashen warren
If it has been a week
silk dock
Are they more tin cans?
languid dome
what do you mean by tin cans?
languid dome
I can dm you my idea
placid moth
we need more campfires
more vanity
I would say that's viable till prehardmode
coz MOAB
lunar rune
how does the exclamation mark thing work?
lost agate
placid moth
whether it has been reviewed
lunar rune
mb
placid moth
why is there a need to edit the MOAB recipe
when horseshoe bundle of balloons is designed for phm
ruby cobalt
Horseshoe in MOAB recipe kinda doesn't make sense imo.
It's there for the sake of being there.
placid moth
hmm ok
warm tinsel
Guys, my suggestion got 76 stars, how does it work to get the ✅ ?
ruby cobalt
Some dev sees it and sends it.
warm tinsel
If they can't find it because it's been submerged already?
ruby cobalt
Nah, they flip through all of them.
heavy mural
And then your hopes get crushed as it's never implemented unless you have a super god tier suggestion
charred gate
Crazier things have happened.
fresh harbor
Candles have happened
fossil torrent
?
charred gate
Also, Calamitas, the Arcane Goddess' more worms suggestion from January 27th has hit 66 stars. That's kinda nuts considering how buried it is.
frail mantle
also the Astrum Virgam from me has 67 
fresh harbor
It's what I commented before
What if someone stars a comment from very long ago, and makes that comment reach the 65 mark, what would happen? Should we communicate to a mod or just let it die there?
lost agate
If mishi gets the bot done then it will be send automatically
ashen warren
smh 'if' i get it done
it's not up to me if it does that sending automatically, i'm leaving that to rover to smooth out the details and discuss with other devs if it's what they want
if they want it, it will happen pre much
lost agate
Yeah big if
daring anvil
There should be a channel for memes
daring anvil
Got it, understandable
tender obsidian
ye
sinful violet
had to delete it twice
then move it to another server
then basically delete that server too
frail mantle
doesn't the Astral Infection only spawn on the dungeon side of the world
sleek wadi
Yeah it only spawns dungeon side, at least in the latest version
frail mantle
is this a meme suggestion
lost agate
@true valley no meme suggestions
tender obsidian
get oofed m8
ashen warren
quick dove
plush remnant
My Heart of the Cosmos idea is at 59. I'm so close. 
cold terrace
It’s not the first profaned slime to be suggested
bitter topaz
@ashen warren iirc there was some reason fab didn't change vanilla gear to use rogue damage, i can't remember the exact reasoning but it was something to do with trying to avoid changing the stats of items
ashen warren
Why would stats have to be changed
They were balanced when it was just throwing damage
formal iron
Throwing wasn't completely removed so that other mods could expand upon it i believe
plush remnant
I think it's because Fab and the dev team are trying to make rogue it's own separate class, with it's own identity and mechanics, instead of just throwing with a different name
bitter topaz
^
that was it.
plush remnant
Although tbh, I feel like all of the throwing style melee weapons like SotC and Vampire Knives should be moved over to rogue.
charred gate
Sigils are sitting at 64. Kinda shocked tbh. It's practically at the bottom of the Abyss with all the suggestions in the channel.
Also, for the Desecrated Ooze, maybe have it fire out those crystal spikes it has instead of lava globs. It already looks like a spiked slime.
To make it real evil, have the spikes stick on impact and explode after a short period like the nails from the nail gun.
agile cloud
If it spawns lava and spawns in the hallow, that could cause some large issues
hollow shell
Presumably the same as Providence's globs
charred gate
Oh god, imagine a slime that actually spawned lava with every bounce or hit.
devout seal
that'd be bullshit.
charred gate
Slag Slime
Very rare enemy, spawns only in caverns/hell. Spawns lava when damaged and when killed.
'Who thought this was a good idea'
Drops essence of chaos, unholy essence, brimstone slag
I dunno. Now I'm thinking of slimes that drop auric ore and the like.
random tide
Slimes for the slime God
cold terrace
Auric slimes have been suggested before and one was sprited by a dev
Never implemented
cold terrace
Don’t be dissuaded, just be sure to include a truly unique and interesting mechanic 
charred gate
Pft
cold terrace
Auric ore spawns in huge veins, there isn’t a huge reason for there to be a renewable source
sleek wigeon
Wasnt the point of the rogue change to get away from smelly vanilla code?
ruby cobalt
It was.
cold terrace
there’s a super duper secret reason
sleek wigeon
I dont see how making vanilla throwing weapons rogue gets us any farther from smelly vanilla code
hollow shell
Fab did convert some non-class armors into Rogue
sleek wigeon
Vanilla armors?
hollow shell
and Pumpkin
cold terrace
Ye
sleek wigeon
Pumpkin?
fervent zealot
wait pumpkin too?
ruby cobalt
Pumpkin just got the damage boost applied to rogue.
hollow shell
Yeah, a lil bit
ruby cobalt
Gladiator and Obsidian got their own rogue boosts.
tame moss
spicy
fervent zealot
oh whew i can still u se it for memes then
sleek wigeon
ok alright
tame moss
made it right after eye last rogue run for lols
sleek wigeon
But still thats adding effects, not changing vanilla ones
hollow shell
Indeed.
ruby cobalt
Other armors won't be touched, and even if they will be - it's extremely unlikely.
ruby cobalt
Maaaybe.
cold terrace
But then there will be suggestions to change it back
ruby cobalt
I mean, there are always suggestions like that.
astralgedon lorde, astrageldon lorde
fervent zealot
wait that was an actual suggestion jesus christ
ashen warren
Nice
fresh harbor
Sigils got 65 stars boiii
@charred gate
delicate raft
@restive karma #changelogs
jovial spire
@restive karma 60 - Added new music boxes to the Music Mod (All the remaining ones). - Done
Thats in #changelogs
ashen warren
Did someone mention the changelogs?
ruby cobalt
No, nobody did. Those are a myth, they don't exist.
restive karma
can i delete it now
delicate raft
do it before anyone else comes to tell you the same thing
charred gate
DID SOMEBODY SAY REPETITION?
jovial spire
@tame moss You said "And souls of fright" while also puting slashes with the other things. Its not clear if you mean it can take any of those things or all of those things
charred gate
I'll stop before I actually get a warning
jovial spire
You might wanna fix that
hybrid ocean
Space Layers
Planetoids and space as they are right now remain the same, but once you defeat WoF the world gets expanded by a few blocks, where you'll get access to Space rocks (shapeless and smaller than planetoids) that contain Hardmode Ore, after this layer you will need some kind of accesory like a space suit, then, when you defeat Moon Lord the world gets expanded again giving access to Exodium Clusters, there could also be new enemies/items related to space in any of the three layers
I saw a mod some time ago that expanded the world by a few blocks on the ocean, but didn't add anything and it was just 5-10 blocks so i don't know if this is possible
: this could expand space and make it more interesting, as it is probably the most boring biome.
what do y'all think
fervent zealot
progressive expansion sounds WACK and like, totally impossible to code and would reduce mod compatibility by another factor of 10
hybrid ocean
i suggested it because of a mod that does something like that, but it expands the ocean by 10 blocks and is totally useless
jovial spire
Well thats befotr the world is generated
delicate raft
I don't think it actually expands it, but instead it reveals it
delicate raft
If you push a jellyfish out of the screen being in the ocean, you'll see it comes back, meaning there is world even outside the screen
hybrid ocean
it also happens with harpies iirc
delicate raft
oh yea 
hybrid ocean
i mean smething like that, the world generates it on creation, but then it "unlocks" it
delicate raft
i get it now
hybrid ocean
should i post it?
delicate raft
eh... I guess?
fervent zealot
we did already tell him his idea was wack
hollow shell
Like
Sure that sounds like a good idea in theory, would be great if it were possible
But jesus christ that's going to be so hard to program it's unreal
ashen warren
Also, those who play Terraria on toasters will have some problem even if it was incorporated
hybrid ocean
i mean, it's generated on world creation, but it's only accesible once you defeat wof and ml
i mean smething like that, the world generates it on creation, but then it "unlocks" it
sleek wadi
One way you could do it is by introducing some nigh-invincible block that destroys itself after each boss is killed
hybrid ocean
hmm
hollow shell
Alright
Not as bad, but would be quite painful still if you want the camera's limits to change
hybrid ocean
that's also an option
ashen warren
Eww
hybrid ocean
or maybe make it like the abyss, making it exponentially more dangerous
or making a "block limit" that doesn't let you build when you reach certain part, and decreasing fly time
until you defeat WoF/ML of course
charred gate
There is TerraCustom, which has a larger-worlds option and TModloader mod support.
Well, there's a Larger Worlds mod that allows the game to load huge worlds generated by TerraCustom.
fossil torrent
Can’t you just.. die if you haven’t beaten the bosses? Neat idea otherwise, not the biggest thing but still big
alpine garnet
So kinda like reverse abyss almost?
jovial spire
The Ssyba
hybrid ocean
actually, counterparts to some of the Abyss items would be neat
charred gate
I think the Abyss should have more Lovecraftian stuff. Like the bottom layer should still have that huge drop, but it widens as you go lower and find stunted, bizarre structures.
Maybe move the chest with Terminus into the center of a small, aesthetic temple.
hybrid ocean
maybe making it merge with Underworld on said temple
and making it wider would be cool, as the Deep Abyss just feels like a hole
charred gate
Precisely.
It would need a different building block, too, instead of just voidstone. A really tough sickly grey-green slab would work.
Now I'm thinking that it would have light sources that give a buff in a very small radius that greatly reduces enemy spawns, with the description 'This is wrong'
A good friend of mine does pixel art. I can ask her to whip up some concept sprites.
fervent zealot
if you're gonna make a suggestion, make a google doc.
bigger ones are far better recieved in docs.
charred gate
Eeyup.
hybrid ocean
maybe a block that acts like the opposite to vanilla Bubbles that drain water would be great
so you can give life to the abyss in late-game
and make npc houses
charred gate
The issue there would be the huge HP-loss thing that happens when in air pockets in the abyss.
hybrid ocean
ah right
i guess the abyss is just hard to live in
and i guess npcs living there is weird
hollow shell
@spark flax Would it appear open (like the Umbrella item) or closed (like Thorium's Bellerose)?
spark flax
Open, probably
hollow shell
Alrighty
spark flax
That way you have a little bit more room to block projectiles with
hollow shell
@proven relic The difference is that doing the pillars and Moon Lord again takes up a lot of time
whereas buying takes no time at all, albeit with cost
sleek wadi
Also money is not a concern in expert+
Even if it suddenly became a problem there are plenty of money farms like statue drops
hollow shell
And Zerg
oof @proven relic edit your suggestion instead of posting a second message
proven relic
sorry
but i mean, if you're ready to fight bumble birb
going through the lunar event at that stage only takes like 2 minutes
hollow shell
Yeah sure it's easy
Quite easy
It's just a hassle
proven relic
i still think the cost isn't worth it. there's no incentive to pay that much
proven relic
👌
but i mean, to add onto it to deffend my point, birb pheramones only use solar fragments and luminite. most players will have some fragments laying around that late in the game, and luminite is only 3 plat away if you buy the sigil from the wizard. there's almost gonna be no way any player ever considers paying 20 plat a viable option
hollow shell
(unless they are in an extreme surplus of money, which does happen)
proven relic
but if you're at that stage of the game, doing the minimal work is easy.
hollow shell
The most minimal work you can do is click one button, buying the pheromones from the shop
proven relic
until i got beyond DoG, i only ever had like 200 plat maximum at any given time. as a player i would never have spent 10% on my wealth to summon a boss one time when i know there are shortcuts i can take that (although they require a little bit of monster slaying) were much less expensive
by a margin of over 90%
the only reason i have nearly 2000 plat now, is because i fought the DoG in revengaence mode to try and make the Apoethesis. which meant i had to fight him over 100 times...
most players i don't think are gonna be at that point
at least at the time where being able to buy birb pheramones would be at it's peak convenience leve
tropic yoke
Lil' Weaver: Post-SW Space Enemy
Lil' Weaver is a flying worm enemy that repeatedly charges at the player, similarly to the Wyvern. Lil' Weaver periodically spawns lightning orbs and Phase 2 Stasis Probes.
Drops:
20-40 Fallen Stars
10-20 Stardust
10-26 Exodium Clusters
5-10 Phantoplasm
What needs fixing?
hollow shell
Kinda strange to drop Stardust considering SW has almost no relation to Astral
tropic yoke
Thought so
hollow shell
same with Phantoplasm
tropic yoke
Man, that was gonna be it's main use
I might just do a little more developing like a good suggestor
hollow shell
Think up a Dungeon enemy instead
if you want a Phanto farm
tropic yoke
Lil' Void and Lil' Envoy?
proven relic
i think the names need work
hollow shell
I was thinking along the lines of
Overloaded Soldier except they got a Paladin instead
proven relic
i don't want my game full of wanabe rappers
tropic yoke
That's why you must exterminate them
hollow shell
(Overloaded Solider was meant to be a Dungeon enemy, and have cooler features, but because I used the Cavern's Armored Skeleton as a base Fab just put it in the Cavern) 
cyan lagoon
also it flies at who knows how far whenever its in the air
99% of the time despawning if there is nothing to stop its path
cyan lagoon
the overloaded soldier
hollow shell
Overloaded Soldier was meant to have Phantom Spirits orbiting around it, kinda like Polterghast's old function
but nah
extreme horizontal acceleration instead
tropic yoke
Never fought it
hollow shell
Understandable
tropic yoke
ISn't it a caverns enemy?
tropic yoke
Dungeon themed enemy in caverns
Overloaded paladin, and it's just PEKKA
Hey, what's with Poltergast being blue along with every minion related to itself, but enemies and items are all pink?
hollow shell
Because Polterghast ate all kinds of ghosts
Ectoplasmic and Phantoplasmic alike
fresh harbor
Polter also has pink spots
tropic yoke
Red eye
hollow shell
The more powerful are the Phantoplasmic, however
(an Ectoplasm weapon wouldn't be very useful Post-ML)
hollow shell
ew
hollow shell
I just noticed that my profile picture encompasses all of my role colors except for Wiki Administrator
Hold up
hollow shell
Hell yeah
Anyway, yeah Polterghast looks better if the blue and red are separated
Natural color duality
sleek wigeon
@proven relic or you could just buy the pheromones
i mean what else are you gonna use the money for?
proven relic
potions and ammo and such
sleek wigeon
potions and ammo are usually dirt cheap depending on what mods you use
elder sparrow
it wont be long before ash pulse gets locked at like 60 stars so it wont get in
torn creek
The was this idea about planetoids and extending the world
I think it should be discussed more
hollow shell
Geez this is the second Seraph priority suggestion in a relatively short span of time
and uh sure I guess
elder sparrow
wdym
ashen warren
Wings don't have priority though?
torn creek
When you have a world, there's only so much you can add before it just gets too crowded. And by the time we get to Supreme calamitas, we've explored most of the world
hollow shell
He means the opposite, Sequence
ashen warren
You have wings on and none other can be equipped
hollow shell
Can't equip wings while wearing Seraph Tracers, because they're wings
Problem is, some pre-Seraph wings are better at being wings than Seraph
radiant meadow
It's a trade off is what I see
hollow shell
mhm
torn creek
I think that whatever the next addition to the world after Yharon should extend the world and the space biome would be nice.
radiant meadow
I usually choose the other route
so I do stuff like tarragon wings and angel treads for doggo 
ashen warren
You'd have to make seraph tracers not wings
torn creek
To make room for the next bosses like Draedon and such
ashen warren
Which eliminates the point of seraph tracers
torn creek
Ttyl
elder sparrow
tbh i think it would fit more
if another biome could exist post yharon
bc auric ore would also fit in
too vague yes but i want to write up some idea for that
ashen warren
Man that's been suggested alot.
hollow shell
Not specifically "tripled"
But it has been suggested to be increased
ashen warren
Ye.
unique owl
several people are typing
ashen warren
Add more helmets to make it so Xeroc isnt the only armor in game that's 1 class only
lolwut
radiant meadow
@unique owl the other counterparts are basically the lunar armors
unique owl
read the full thing plox
radiant meadow
and xeroc was converted to rogue by demand
radiant meadow
and astral and omega blue armors exist
ashen warren
all of the calamity armor is generally better than normal ones
again, lolwut
radiant meadow
and xeroc used to be worse than stardust, nebula, and vortex
in fact, vortex is nerfed and nebula is nerfed next update
unique owl
lmao i never noticed
radiant meadow
just the vortex stealth
unique owl
stealth?
brazen wedge
ono
ashen warren
Mage uses vanilla and rogue used to use vanilla when it was throwing
unique owl
fuck kinda game you talking about
brazen wedge
not nebula
radiant meadow
and pre rogue, ataxia and reaver were better melee options
unique owl
still tho
ashen warren
Also, all pre hmode armors are singular class except for crimson, aerospec and statigel
"the only armor in game that's 1 class only"
unique owl
what other armors are there
ashen warren
Calamity even makes gladiator armor and obsidian armor singular class
cyan lagoon
Also even then astral armor isnt combat based, no?
hollow shell
tbh Calamity needs more single-class armors, it's boring when every playthrough has all the same options
brazen wedge
pure luminite armor
cyan lagoon
I was thinking maybe remove some options for the original all class armors to make more sense
hollow shell
no thoriuo
ashen warren
Don't copy thorium
brazen wedge
wait wut
ashen warren
That's rude
brazen wedge
thorium has that?
unique owl
xeoric is out of place imo, it should prob have an extra pillar
cyan lagoon
Like statigel gets summoner/rogue or aerospec gets ranger or melee
unique owl
in like hell
cyan lagoon
Extra pillars wont happen
ashen warren
extra pillar
Tremor mod..
brazen wedge
ono
tame moss
imo xeroc is fine, since it's supposed to be on the same tier as the lunar armors. That makes one for each class.
ashen warren
I don't see why xeroc being lunar armor is bad
tame moss
An extra pillar would be nice, but the only way to have them spawn evenly would have one in the middle, which some may not like
ashen warren
In the air
tame moss
I usually build in the middle to save on crafting a bed lol
brazen wedge
no
unique owl
they are in the air
ashen warren
Higher up
brazen wedge
i dont need more work killing pillars
unique owl
space
tame moss
no
ashen warren
Out of bounds
unique owl
bro pillars are stupid easy if you actually have proper gear
sleek wadi
Don't be messing with my space base
tame moss
pillars are farmable, just stay at the edge and control spawn lul
or be like me and bumrush with mobility and play touhou with crawltipedes
unique owl
no pillars, moon drops all the shit
tame moss
for Xeroc, you would need a crafting material that is at the same tier as the solar armors, yet separated from their fragments. Yeah, meld blobs are basically a nebula only drop, but still separate from the fragments.
ashen warren
Just make the meld blobs a pillar augment
tame moss
Maybe swap meld blobs over to a direct moon lord drop? or from his eyes
so it's obtainable before defeating him fully like fragments
sleek wadi
Eyes aren't killable on all modes
tame moss
drop when eyes on his hands/head pop out on non-killable-eye modes
tame moss
Rev is like the standard difficulty for me now lmao
unique owl
tame moss
and I don't think I've played normal since expert first came out
ashen warren
That just makes it that some classes are forced to lose
tame moss
xd
ashen warren
Which is stupid
unique owl
who actually plays calamity w/o rev atleast
whole new mechanic and a bunch of drops yeeted
tame moss
hit me with those accessories
runic mesa
id say make meld blobs be moon lord drops. that would also gate terratomere behind moon lord, as that sword is way too good for moonlord
tame moss
^^
ashen warren
It'd also fuck rogue
ashen warren
Xeroc pitchforks
unique owl
ok bye i've been tlaking for 40 mins w/o playing
runic mesa
i kinda forgot xeroc pitchforks are so vital for ml. i almost never do rogue/throwing(last time i did it was when it was still throwing)
sleek wadi
I play on expert more because I don't really care for adren.
tame moss
well cultist could still drop a couple
unique owl
i kinda forgot rogue existed ok bye
tame moss
pitchforks got nerfed since I last used them tho
ashen warren
The Empyrean is also pretty good for ml in my experience
runic mesa
maybe make a rogue wep. that isnt xeroc that can work for ml?
ancient atlas
i don't think boss rush is supposed to be balanced?
runic mesa
^
tame moss
it's literally the end-game
ashen warren
@ashen warren ye
tame moss
should be ridiculously hard
ancient atlas
boss rush is meant to be on the level of the endgame player
runic mesa
look at the true arena from any kirby game. its not supposed to be fair, its supposed to be hard
ancient atlas
so it's not exactly meant to be balanced
ashen warren
All elemental weapons would need to be moved to later so everything doesn't just instantly upgrade
ashen warren
Boss Rush Nerf
no
ancient atlas
also, keyword in the section, I
ashen warren
They only do 800 though..?
ancient atlas
if you're having the problem and nobody else is, then you should improve
ashen warren
If anything it should be buffed, it's super easy imo
However I know that others struggle with it
So it's good how it is honestly
ancient atlas
people do struggle with the boss rush but it is beatable without immense levels of skill
runic mesa
i may have missed something, but is their a yharon teir yoyo? or is the Obliterator the best yoyo pre SCal?
ancient atlas
if it was unbeatable because of the bosses mentioned, there would be some understanding
quiet abyss
Obliterator is the best yoyo pre-SCal, sadly
ancient atlas
tame moss
any boss can be a struggle without practice, hence the need to practice and improve
quiet abyss
No yharon tier yoyo
runic mesa
well i know what im gonna spend too much time in school thinking of now
quiet abyss
Though for yoyo players, there's atleast Azathoth post-SCal
ashen warren
People still like yoyos?
runic mesa
i do
ancient atlas
yeah
quiet abyss
If there's people who likes hardcore then there's definitely people that still likes yoyos
ashen warren
I did one vanilla run and got bored at mechs
ancient atlas
if people like yoyos, why are flails underused 
tame moss
flails badd
ashen warren
Flails.. aren't.. yoyos..
runic mesa
also hey, "The Ripper" got to 65 stars. yay
ashen warren
Flamebeak Hampick Rework
Add L/R click compatibility to the abomination similar to the aegis blade, only now, separating the hammer and the pickaxe functions entirely.
The Ataxia hammer-pickaxe is next to useless due to the fact that it's easily outclassed by the picksaw/shroomite digging claws, and the only upside being an ease of use for builders, but uh oh, looks like you damage blocks when you hammer them, something that sucks when you try to hammer the earlier blocks (dirt, etc.) Also, when clearing walls, one has that chance to mess up blocks even further if the cursor strays further, which is even more excruciating. I get that it's supposed to be 'chaotic' or some utter shluck, but making an otherwise unique tool practically unusable seems like a waste of code.
How's this?
ashen warren
i agree
runic mesa
i agree too
brazen wedge
i agree three
tulip fulcrum
I agree four
jovial spire
i agree fifth
hollow shell
stop
quiet abyss
Cease
hollow shell
We've got stars for this purpose.
jovial spire
I agree with that 
radiant meadow
~~ee, got sniped on removing ❕ ~~
ashen warren
Now
hollow shell
Your lucky the previous L/R Hampick suggestion was sent in August, or your party would be soiled with a ☑
ashen warren
That's nice
frosty kindle
why does the suggestionsbot even mark things with ❕ anyways?
radiant meadow
to make us work more
hollow shell
Because it stars everything automatically now, and the ❕ lets people know that the suggestion can still lose its star if it breaks rules
previously, it wouldn't get starred in the first place if it was invalid
frosty kindle
cool and good
hollow shell
@molten hearth It got sent my guy, you need not repost it
molten hearth
Oh ok XD
frosty kindle
and if the ❕ isn't removed, but the suggestion has stayed up (not removed as a whole)?
hollow shell
@reef mountain Okay you're gonna have to be 300% more specific than that
ashen warren
Terra rifle.
hollow shell
Uh that means it hasn't been reviewed yet, Fish
ashen warren
Yeesh.
hollow shell
Or, like now, we're waiting on the suggester to change it
quiet abyss
@reef mountain Sir, please describe the weapon more than that.
You didn't even give us any info on how the weapon works, how it's crafted (or what drops it) etc.
ashen warren
50 damage 
quiet abyss
Alright, now, the recipe?
hollow shell
Ay nice he did it
brazen wedge
yay
elder sparrow
what even is the purpose of astral armor
ashen warren
So astral ore isn't big suck
hollow shell
It could use more of a purpose
elder sparrow
i'd say the same for omega blue armor then
radiant meadow
maybe mining speed increase
elder sparrow
but people tend to use ataxia over it
radiant meadow
since it's an exploration armor
hollow shell
Omega Blue is frickin rad tho
reef mountain
astrial armor is a godsend for exploring and grinding ores.