suggestions-discussion

[low remnant]

ok, made this a side-grade (kind of) to the Alpha Ray

Synthesis
Mage Gun
Upgrade to the Genesis weapon, obtainable post-Yharon (P1)
To craft,
(1) Genesis
(1) T1000
(1) Apocteosis Array
(1) Aether's Whisper
(1) Lazhar
(1) Effervescence
(10) Ruinous Souls
(16) Darksun Fragments
(12) Bars of Life
(2) Cores of Calamity
(5) Galactia Singularity

• Left Click fires a constant beam of orange/blue which goes through blocks (think, Genesis) and inflicts On Fire and Frostburn
• Holding Left Click charges a large salvo of multiple lasers which deal more damage the further they travel - these dissipate after (x) blocks and do not pierce
• Right Click fires shoots a mass of innacurate lasers that bounce off blocks (x) times before disspating.
  The longer you hold down right click, the more projectiles are fired each second (think, T1000 or the Laser Machinegun from vanilla)

Why? Mage gunslinger is a fun sideclass that doesn't have much support. Most of the crafting trees for the weapons are
minimal and they cease to be useful almost immediately after they're crafted (with the exception, of course, being the Alpha Ray)
This extends the trees a little further and adds an extra side-tier weapon for that area of the game.

[hollow shell]

Wait so
Side-grade to Alpha Ray?

[low remnant]

yeah, edited it a bit

now you're making me regret my decisions

[unique vector]

you say left click fires a constant beam

[low remnant]

wait a minute

I see

[unique vector]

but then you say holding left click does something else

[low remnant]

hecc

[radiant meadow]

Effervescence?

[hollow shell]

I don't think that's a super good idea
considering you'd have to make Genisis twice in order to
maximize your loadout

[low remnant]

lmao this is what happens when you try to edit which button does what lol

hmm

I feel like without the Genesis its namesake has no meaning though

[unique vector]

effervescence exists yes

[hollow shell]

Just make it an Exo weapon man
You're already shoving a ton of weapons into one gun

[unique vector]

as does aether's whisper

[low remnant]

ok

[reef escarp]

@steep island i sense a FTL Refence .... Glaive Beam

'One of the most powerful weapons of war ever created. Known to take out some Ships in a single blast'

[low remnant]

thats why it sounded familiar

[reef escarp]

that needs 65 stars asap

it used to be 35 then 50

[low remnant]

mmh

this server has too many people suggesting things at too fast a rate for the devs to tolerate

(presumably why they upped the star count)

[reef escarp]

Glaive Beam is a really good suggestion

[low remnant]

upon revision this is 'fixed' (for the most part). Hopefully there aren't any blindingly obvious mistakes in it like the last post. Synthesis
Mage Gun
Upgrade to the Alpha Ray, obtainable post-Yharon Phase 1
To craft,
(1) Alpha Ray
(1) T1000
(1) Apocteosis Array
(1) Aether's Whisper
(1) Lazhar
(1) Effervescence
(1) Plasma Rifle
(10) Phatoplasm
(10) Cosmilite Bars
(10) Yharon Soul Fragments
(10) Nightmare Fuel
(10) Endothermic Energy
(16) Darksun Fragments
(50) Auric Ore
(2) Cores of Calamity
(5) Galactia Singularities

• Left Click fires a constant beam of orange/blue which goes through blocks (think, Genesis) and inflicts On Fire and Frostburn
• Right Click charges a large salvo of multiple lasers which deal more damage the further they travel - these dissipate after (x) blocks and do not pierce
• Holding Right Click fires shoots a mass of innacurate lasers that bounce off blocks (x) times before disspating.
  The longer you hold down click, the more projectiles are fired each second (think, T1000 or the Laser Machinegun from vanilla)

Why? Mage gunslinger is a fun sideclass that doesn't have much support. Most of the crafting trees for the weapons are
minimal and they cease to be useful almost immediately after they're crafted (with the exception, of course, being the Alpha Ray)
This extends the trees a little further and adds an extra side-tier weapon for that area of the game.

[steep island]

@reef escarp :D

[radiant meadow]

did you decide to just make it an auric tier weapon?

[low remnant]

yeah

r.i.p me

[radiant meadow]

make the exo wep mats linear with the other auric weps

[low remnant]

'mats'?

[radiant meadow]

make the numbers the same https://gyazo.com/15829d73659a1774f21ba3f4bcb0ff9c

mats = materials

[low remnant]

o

apologies, am d u m b

[hollow shell]

Still says "obtainable post-Yharon Phase 1 "

[low remnant]

oops

[molten hearth]

Yeah, that's post phase 2

[low remnant]

ok at this point I think I've put way to much time into something that isn't actually worth that much

[hollow shell]

Heh

[low remnant]

post

done

outta here

[hollow shell]

Cya

[low remnant]

pls no hurt

[radiant meadow]

@molten hearth no shadowspec bars allowed in suggestions

[molten hearth]

Oh ok sorry

[jovial spire]

Just put in calamitious essence

@molten hearth

[delicate raft]

Deleted

oof

[jovial spire]

Oh

[molten hearth]

I copied it though so I could change it

[jovial spire]

Might wanna fix the "why" section

@molten hearth

[molten hearth]

Lol sry idk what happened there

[jovial spire]

There we go

[radiant meadow]

no grax?

[terse rain]

I want me a that

[molten hearth]

Idk much about what tools there are in this mod, so I just put in Lunar tools to save time

[hollow shell]

Oh boy..

[unique vector]

welp

gl to you sors

[molten hearth]

Changed the recipe A bit to make it slightly more expensive

[ashen warren]

I like it

Good change

[sleek wigeon]

cosmilite bar recipe is ech. cosmilite bars orgin is that we are ripping off doggos armored plates

I dont see why we would get ore from that

[terse rain]

good suggestion though because it makes recipes more simple and take less ingredients

I starred it

[ashen warren]

It makes more sense that the plates have cracked and crumbled and need smelting

Thanks Nick

[sleek wigeon]

still not a big fan, makes the weapons of pure cosmilite even more useless

[ashen warren]

How?

[terse rain]

only barely, making them post buffed events

[ashen warren]

You can't craft any of it until you build Draedon's Forge

Remember?

[terse rain]

which the buffed events are of very questionable difficulty either way

[sleek wigeon]

right, right.

[terse rain]

you're going to have a TON of both of their drops though after only one or two times

[ashen warren]

Yup

This guy gets it

[sleek wigeon]

anyhow it also means you cant actually see what you can make with cosmilite instantly after doggo

[terse rain]

it removes unnecescary complexity from recipes that are too big

[ashen warren]

Literally everything is right now

[terse rain]

draedon's forge

[ashen warren]

Oof

Deletoes

[molten hearth]

Lol I derped

[hollow shell]

There are only 3 items in the game which require Cosmilite Bars but not Draedon's Forge

Magnetic Meltdown and Starmada (which honestly feel like inconsistencies)
and Dimensional Soul Artifact, because it's at a Demon Altar

so really

[ashen warren]

And those recipes could be altered if the balance is that important

[hollow shell]

not a lot of moving happening

[radiant meadow]

and draedon's forge

that uses cosmilite, right?

[hollow shell]

yeah

[molten hearth]

Yeah

[terse rain]

yup

[ashen warren]

[terse rain]

and also nightmare fuel+endo

[molten hearth]

I may be new to the mod, but I know enough to know that

[sleek wigeon]

anyhow if auric bars are coming soon anyhow, then this actually wouldnt affect much of anything?

[terse rain]

which could just be removed from the recipe if the suggestion took place

[sleek wigeon]

in terms of endgame recipes?

[ashen warren]

It'd be like a smaller scale version of Auric bars

Like a step along the way

[sleek wigeon]

like post dog recipes in themselves dont really need to be shortened, as they are generally quite small.

seems like alot of recipe changing for negliable benefit

[ashen warren]

That's kind of a subjective argument

You could use that to say Auric bars are a waste, given enough time and mental gymnastics

[terse rain]

making the recipe 6 or so items less is good imo and using ore instead of bars for only one ore in the game feels strange and inconsistet with the rest of the game

[ashen warren]

Like Luminite

And Demonite

(Added a thing by the way)

[hollow shell]

.. are you referring to the fact that it's
pink and blue?

DoG's palette?

[ashen warren]

It's more about how there's 2 halves with colors that correlate with the ingredients
Maybe by coincidence

[hexed hedge]

sorry to cut in
But to harp on Mael's suggestion. maybe have dialogue saying something along the lines of "The Devourer's essence escapes it's body and seeps into the earth"

[hollow shell]

He's not suggesting generation

[ashen warren]

Uhhh
I thought he was gonna drop it

[hexed hedge]

o

Must have misread whoops

[ashen warren]

Yupyup

[hexed hedge]

Oof that was a big misread, apologies.

[charred gate]

So, I'm thinking of suggesting upgraded traps. I'm sitting through a solar eclipse rn and the Mechanic's dialogue of "What do you mean your traps aren't making the cut? Don't look at me!" is pretty fitting.

[ashen warren]

Why my pp hard

[charred gate]

Anyone got ideas before I start putting a suggestion together?

I figure using the Lihzahrd traps as a material is a given.

[ashen warren]

@steep island I just noticed the ftl reference

Neato

[sleek wigeon]

just noticed?

[charred gate]

Slag Trap
Upgraded Flame Trap, deals more damage/ignores a percentage of enemy defense, inflicts Brimstone Flames

Recipe
10 Essence of Chaos
3 Chaotic Bars
Flame Trap
Bucket of Lava

[sleek wigeon]

how were you not blinded by it?

[charred gate]

Anyone have feedback on the trap idea? Effects, recipe, etc.?

[sleek wigeon]

also that flame trap upgrade is literally a boss fight after flame trap is gotten the first time

[charred gate]

I realized that and it's why I'm open to suggestions.

Trying to figure out what materials to use so the original flame trap isn't just immediately outclassed/upgraded.

Maybe have it use post-Provi materials?

Unholy Flame Trap
Upgraded flame trap, deals more damage/ignores a percentage of enemy defense, inflicts Holy Flames

Recipe
12 Unholy Essence
3 Divine Geodes
Flame Trap

[earnest raptor]

@low remnant sorry, but you recipe are too long.

[sleek wigeon]

what?

thats the appropiate recipe length for exo tier

smh

[earnest raptor]

Only maximum 14 elements in recipe is allowed.

Syntesis's recipe contain a 16.

[ashen warren]

[molten hearth]

Oof

[earnest raptor]

Maybe I wrong, but game can't register a recipe with more that 14 elements

[ashen warren]

Hold up

If my suggestion gets implemented, the amount of ingredients will be down to 14!

[molten hearth]

True

[sleek wigeon]

auric bar would reduce it down to like 10 as well

[hollow shell]

I don't think you can't go more than 14, I think 14 is just the max Calamity has reached so far
being Auric Tesla Armor's pieces

[ashen warren]

Better start upvoting ;)

[hollow shell]

I don't recall any recipes limits

[sleek wigeon]

it is kinda weird how alot of endgame calamity stuff hit exactly 14 things though. probably just a coincidence, im sure.

[ashen warren]

There's the fact that you can see the Water Bolt on the shelf by mousing over it and seeing the icon
Just gotta mention

[charred gate]

^

Plus, the chance for book mimics to drop Water Bolts just means you have a shot at getting one if for some god-forsaken reason your dungeon doesn't generate any in an accessible area.

[ashen warren]

No reason...?

Why would you post it...

[lost agate]

Yeah uh...

Slap in a reason at least

[ashen warren]

I think he's saying there is no reason

i mean, it ain't that hard to think of a few reasons tbh

There it is

[earnest raptor]

  if (this.createItem == null || this.createItem.type == 0) {
 throw new RecipeException("A recipe without any result has been added.");
 }
 if (this.numIngredients > 14 || this.numTiles > 14) {
 throw new RecipeException("A recipe with either too many tiles or too many ingredients has been added. 14 is the max.");
  }```

@hollow shell

[sleek wigeon]

imagine mousing over books for waterbolt

instead of ya know

being able to naturally recongize it on shelves

[ashen warren]

I look and then mouse
For double confirmation

[sleek wigeon]

Why do you need double confirmation?

mr blind nerd

[ashen warren]

In case of mimics

[earnest raptor]

Cheese

[sleek wigeon]

hows cheese a problem?

it is the players choice to enact cheese

[charred gate]

It's also not really a cheese, getting Waterbolt early on.

[earnest raptor]

You can get unlimited amount of Water Bolts.

Or not?

[charred gate]

What?

[civic rampart]

How about making it so that it drops the water bolt 100% first time, and 2% every subsequent time

[charred gate]

Thing is, there's not much reason for it to exist in the first place.

[sleek wigeon]

Unlimited water bolts isnt really a big deal

considering how much money you make off bosses

[charred gate]

There really isn't a reason for it though. The book mimic in general. Water Bolt has a distinct sprite, says 'Water Bolt' when you put your cursor over, and is the only book that drops when you right click it and it's on a shelf.

[low remnant]

really? There's a cap to item recipes? This was modelled off the Vivid Clarity which has 7 weapons used to craft it.

OOF left the Cores of Calamity and Galactia Singularities in there

fixed it @earnest raptor

[charred gate]

Also, ow. Two suggestions after mine get stars, and mine sits at 1.

[ashen warren]

People just don't think traps are good enough for them

[charred gate]

Badum tish

[fossil torrent]

@ashen warren Sorry for caring about this so late, but I was sleeping
(about your suggestion of removing sprites from suggestions)
That'd not help non-sprited suggestions to get in, it would just make it so.. no suggestions got in. The reason that suggestions with sprites get in is because of.. the sprites, mostly. It's a TON less work to do when there's already a sprite provided. If only non-sprited suggestions were allowed, instead of maybe 1/200 getting in, NONE would get in, other than small changes or tweaks.
I'm sorry, but why would anyone want this?

[charred gate]

Well then. Now I feel like I probably shouldn't bother suggesting at all, knowing that spritework makes it too much of a hassle.

[fossil torrent]

Don’t get me wrong, there are suggestions without sprites that have gotten in there. Not meant to discourage anyone, sorry.

fuck

[charred gate]

No, I realized I was looking at it the wrong way and was being a dick.

[ashen warren]

yeah uh jav you kinda just downtalked all non-sprite non-balance suggestions tbh

[fossil torrent]

Didn’t intend to

[charred gate]

Nah, I gotcha.

Sprited suggestions just vastly improves chances because it means significantly less work.

[fossil torrent]

Yeah that’s all I meant

[charred gate]

Ye. I saw that I took it completely the wrong way.

[fossil torrent]

Nono mb

[ashen warren]

[eager palm]

@leaden swift that will probably never happen since fab wants to balance vanilla around calamity, not the other way around

Also most of the vanilla shit is either stupidly broken or has no use at all

[frail mantle]

I don’t think this person understands why the devs even nerfed/buffed vanilla items

[leaden swift]

excuse me i wasnt very active within this server

[charred gate]

Clearly.

[ashen warren]

Then why'd you even make a suggestion like that without knowing why they did it?

[charred gate]

Thing is, I'm not very active either.

Not much of an excuse.

[frail mantle]

Rob explained why Fab is buffing and nerfing vanilla items

[leaden swift]

@ashen warren ofcourse its my mistake for making a suggestion without knowing

[ashen warren]

Yup

That's how mistakes works

[eager palm]

You can delete it if you want to because it's not really gonna get starred

[ashen warren]

@fossil torrent Heya, was afk.
If a suggestion doesn't get 65+ stars without a sprite then that suggestion simply isn't good enough.
Suggestions are meant to represent what the community wants not a bunch of numbnuts mesmerized by "oo pretty sprite" and a few people who actually care about the suggestion.
And about no suggestions getting in... there have been 2 out of thousands of suggestions afaik that wasn't just a small tweak.
I already answered the "less work" thing in the suggestion.

tl;dr Suggestions should stand on how good an idea is, not pretty pictures.

[fossil torrent]

Think as you want i’m not gonna change your mind

[frail mantle]

What about relatively bad sprites (like mine) that only give a relative idea of what the suggestion looks like? Would those be banned too?

[charred gate]

Aaaand THERE goes my will to make suggestions.

Thanks.

[eager palm]

Sprites add value to the suggestion simply because it shows you spend time on it and didn't just grab a weapon idea out of your butt for the sake of idk what

[frail mantle]

^

[ashen warren]

Nightmare fuel proves that's bull

I personally don't like any of his suggestions

Just rehashing used concepts, nothing new

[eager palm]

That's subjective, I don't like most of his suggestions either but it proves he spends time on them, asks around in the channel on what would people like it to be and then spends his time making a sprite

[ashen warren]

They use a popularity campaign, a proven strategy irl

[charred gate]

Ooorrr they could genuinely be putting time and effort into ideas.

[elder kestrel]

Even IF it's a popularity campaign, sprites still take some amount of effort

Even if it isn't the most in the world; it still requires effort

[ancient dragon]

Dunno why you'd get on someone's case for making sprites that boost their star count. Like, does that honestly matter? At all?

[ashen warren]

Uneven playing field, people ignore suggestions without sprites

[frail mantle]

Some people probably do, yes

[ashen warren]

This isn't #Flex_your_spriting_skills

[frail mantle]

and some people probably ignore all suggestions with sprites as well

[elder kestrel]

not really?? I've seen many suggestion do better without sprites

[fossil torrent]

what did I start

[sinful violet]

Nothing helpful

[frail mantle]

i make sprites for most of my suggestions, and mine usually take a couple of days just to get around 67 stars

[sinful violet]

Look, can we just agree that this is thing that'll happen

[ancient dragon]

Don't you think you're being a bit tinfoil-hatty? Sure, sprites to accompany your suggestions do help you but they sure as heck ain't inhibiting other people from making solid suggestions without 'em.

[frail mantle]

my point is: not all suggestions with sprites get a shit-ton of stars

[sinful violet]

So far the only real suggestions to make it in have been without sprites.

[ancient dragon]

My message was at Sequence.

[sinful violet]

As they've been well explained and valid changes that needed to be made.

Sprites only boost consideration noticeably in the public servers, where people just give things a glance.

[fossil torrent]

And candles, mrrp

[sinful violet]

And candles, but those've been discussed since way before.

And they're already kind of a thing too.

[ashen warren]

I'm referring specifically to content suggestions mrrp

[ancient dragon]

Great Sand Shark.

[sinful violet]

My point stands.

[fossil torrent]

Was Great Sand Shark a suggestion?

[ashen warren]

Very anecdotal and happened once

[sinful violet]

It still doesn't matter.

And yes, GSS was a suggestion.

[fossil torrent]

Huh, cool
who made it?

[sinful violet]

Don't remember

It was the old suggestion system

[ancient dragon]

What other content suggestions have been made that actually got in, btw?

[elder kestrel]

ionmaster, jayvz

[sudden quail]

Not kidding, GSS was me

[sinful violet]

Amalgam

Besides amalgam... I'm not sure.

[fossil torrent]

just looked it up, sure was you

[sinful violet]

And yeah, I just tried to avoid mentioning it.

Old suggestions was hell

[ancient dragon]

Aye.

[sinful violet]

I didn't want to have to dig through it

[sudden quail]

Aye.

[sinful violet]

Only suggestion I've gotten through was this whole revamp

[charred gate]

Pfft

[ancient dragon]

Either way, think we can all agree that sprites blinding people from other suggestions is pretty unfounded and, again, tinfoil-hatty.

[charred gate]

Welp. I'll be sure to keep my hopes down when suggesting stuff.

On to the next trap upgrade idea!

[sudden quail]

Agreed. All I got from lurking this was just "paranoia".

[fossil torrent]

oh yeah, that reminds me

[sudden quail]

That Unholy Flame trap reminded me of an idea I had, that was basically a 2x2 trap that fired Providence's laser in a certain direction based on where the placed trap was facing

[charred gate]

Plague Trap
Upgraded Super Dart Trap, projectiles do more damage and pierce enemies, inflicting Plague

Recipe
20 Plague Cell Canisters
10 Unholy Energy
1 Divine Geode?
Super Dart Trap

Thoughts?

[fossil torrent]

Yeah there should be more traps

[sudden quail]

Approved

[fossil torrent]

they can be a bit cheesy, but it's a cool concept

[charred gate]

My reasoning is that my traps were doing jack shit in a Solar Eclipse, and then when I talked to the Mechanic to sell stuff I got the "What do you mean your traps aren't making the cut?" dialogue line.

Now to figure out upgrades to spiky ball traps and spear traps.

....

Idea for the former.

[sleek wadi]

A spear trap that acts like a Solar Eruption perhaps?

[sudden quail]

Not sure what you can do for spiky balls, but for spears, my mind instantly jumped to Providence

[charred gate]

I was thinking the upgrade to the spiky ball trap would leave explosive mines on each bounce.

[sleek wadi]

We BTD now

[charred gate]

The ball itself would lose all damage properties, but it would trade it in for a lot of explosions.

YE

EXACTLY

[frail mantle]

Cosmilite Spike Ball Trap?

[frosty kindle]

tbh i like trap upgrade ideas

[charred gate]

And now the hardest part is coming up with a name.

I'm thinking the recipe will use Cosmilite bars, Twisting Nether, and Armored Shell because the last two ingredients are only used for one thing.

[frail mantle]

Cosmilite Mine Trap?

[charred gate]

Hmmm. Ye.

Cosmilite Mine Trap
Upgraded spiky ball trap. Balls do no damage, and instead leave sticky mines on every bounce. Mines do heavy damage and inflict God-Slayer Inferno.

Recipe
8 Cosmilite Bars
10 Endothermic Energy
10 Nightmare Fuel
5 Sticky Dynamite
Spiky Ball Trap

Although this would potentially be kinda entity-heavy.

To balance it I guess lengthen the cooldown between activations.

[pliant bone]

Tbh, the only use I could think of for this is farming for Nightmare fuel, endothermic energy or even darksun fragments

[sleek wadi]

Yo why don't we increase Cnidrion's health to 801 so he can get a healthbar

[pliant bone]

Nah

Lets leave it below 800 for players who are starting out in this game and dont know cnidrion is above them

[charred gate]

oh god no

[sleek wadi]

Yeah you're right, 801 is a bit awkward. 805 it is

[pliant bone]

Why not 888 though

[charred gate]

Because you don't have the DPS early-game to do 888 and live

[fossil torrent]

Nobody's got an opinion on the news role?

[charred gate]

I'd be down for it.

I just had an idea for an entirely new trap.

Caustic Sludge Trap
Constantly leaks a liquid with honey's viscosity that slows and rapidly damages any entities that enter it. Crafted in pairs, and does not function unless there is another Caustic Sludge Trap directly opposite it with no blocks in-between. The liquid cannot go higher than the block layer it occupies.

So you place it at either end of a pit, flip a switch, and the pit slowly fills with the nasty green ooze from the original DOOM.

[round falcon]

its 2 am and im prob not awake enough but that is a fine piece of work

[charred gate]

The biggest problems I see with it are the logic detection for opposing traps, and coding an entirely new liquid.

[round falcon]

good qual but seems challenging

[charred gate]

If it does get implemented by some impossible stretch of chance, it would be funny to flood an entire world with the sludge.

Aight, that's my last idea. I'm heading to bed.

[reef mountain]

Make the boss accessories that can be made into the heart of elements more common, like, right now it’s unbelievably rare.
Also gave sandstorm elemental a summon item...

[quiet abyss]

Twins rn are already causing people to suffer

[frail mantle]

^

we don’t need to make them even harder

[quiet abyss]

Rev+ twins that is

[frail mantle]

Also, prime is sorta meant to be the hardest mech in vanilla

[autumn kiln]

destroyer is already bullshit as is lmao

[ashen warren]

buffing twins? no, they don't need it. Not all mechs are created equal

[earnest raptor]

Okay.

other good idea, think, @me, think

[autumn kiln]

destroyer nerf

[earnest raptor]

Butter Disruptor

Exo-spear, melee/throwing combined.

LC (deal melee damage): swings exo-pallette spear, which have a insane size (like 20 blocks wide), ignores IF and summons from offscreen three projs: one heals player per their damage, second explodes in massive range and inflict in that a "Exo Freeze", thrith a just homes.
RC (deal rogue damage): throw giant exo-pallete spear, which create trail of Executioner's Blades, pierces inflinitely and creates a LC-attack projectiles on hit.

Craft:
Heart Rapier
Glided Prophosis
Elemental Lance
Executioner's Blade
Xeroc Pitchfork
Bone Javelin
100 Auric Ore
5 Endothermic Energy
5 Nightmare Fuel
5 Darksun Fragment
5 Cosmilite Bar
5 Phantoplasm
5 Yharon Soul Fragment
5 Bar of Life
@ Draedon's Forge

: More exo-tier weapons (for diversity), and not shitty Exoblade and Celectus.

Decent?

[frail mantle]

Celestus shitty

Have you seen it against any worm

[earnest raptor]

Celectus deal damage to fps.

On worms it eat game.

[frail mantle]

It shreds worms

it is most definitely not shitty

[earnest raptor]

And fps.

[autumn kiln]

exoblade is not shitty lmfao

[ashen warren]

I am offended by your reason why you want this

[frail mantle]

Just because something eats FPS doesn’t mean it’s bad

[autumn kiln]

and just because something is strong doesn't mean it's bad

if anything we need an exo gun

[frail mantle]

Exo gun has been suggested a kgjphillion times before

[fossil torrent]

But yet to be added.

[hollow shell]

Uggh why do valid suggestions not get initial stars

[frail mantle]

Maybe the people who can star them either don’t notice them or think they’re not valid

[hollow shell]

I'm wondering if we should get a bot to put the first stars on everything

If a suggestion ends up being invalid, a mod can clear the reactions real easy

[frail mantle]

That could be a good thing

[marsh gust]

i thought that bot exists but broken rn?

[hollow shell]

Not for that purpose

Could be changed to do so

[marsh gust]

oh that one is for flagging is it?

[hollow shell]

No it was intended to deliver

but Discord's API or whatever didn't allow for it

[frail mantle]

but what if people star it before the star is removed

[hollow shell]

not sure if it does now

[marsh gust]

huh

[ashen warren]

a bot to do that would be very easy to setup, the only problem i can see is those people who spread the suggestion across multiple messages

[hollow shell]

What if, Providab?

Nothing, there'd be no effect

[frail mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i assume you know what would happen

[hollow shell]

Multiple messages could be a problem
potentially

We do shout at people to keep it in one message but that can't be done sometimes

'course mods can just clear the stars then too but that's a bit of a hassle

[ashen warren]

could have it if they send another message within a minute or so, remove the reaction(s) from the prior message, since it would take longer than a minute for another meaningful/constructive suggestion

[lunar rune]

Well that's probably a better idea than mods manually starring them

[hollow shell]

*cooldudes

list is much bigger

[lunar rune]

Either that or maybe something like !suggestion <insert suggestion here>

yea mb

[hollow shell]

If one can program a bot to do that, Amber
That would be perfect

[ashen warren]

i could, I setup the bot for the nohit server and it does a good bit more than adding reactions to messages

[lunar rune]

That's really easy tbh no offence to bot coders

[eager palm]

Don't say something is easy if you can't do it yourself

[hollow shell]

That's not a super good motto but okay

[eager palm]

I feel it's fitting here tho

Not always necessarily true tho

[lunar rune]

Discord API literally allows Python integration into their bots and an input on a while loop will allow that to work tho

[ashen warren]

while loop

[hollow shell]

@earnest raptor What is that name?

[worthy fiber]

🤔

[ashen warren]

I also question thy name of an exo weap

[hollow shell]

also, be sure to call it rogue instead of throwing in that first line.

[ashen warren]

is LC and RC Left click/Right click?

[hollow shell]

yes

[placid moth]

I'd have it after SCal though

[cold terrace]

how many exo spears have been suggested at this point

[ashen warren]

Not more than exo guns

[ruby cobalt]

Less than exo guns and exo yoyos, that's for sure.

[ashen warren]

beench

[ruby cobalt]

exo weapons
exo weapons
stuck in limbo forever

[cold terrace]

to be fair, anyone crazy enough to do a yoyo playthrough has to stick with the one from dog all the way through scal

[eager palm]

yoyo playthrough

[cold terrace]

imagine

[ashen warren]

does exo yoyo exist though

[earnest raptor]

No.

[cold terrace]

If people are suggesting exo yoyos

[earnest raptor]

And as can be see, their never implemented.

[cold terrace]

then

[ashen warren]

I kinda like the idea of an NPC spawner
An item that when used, will cause an eligible npc to move into a proper house at random

That'd help speed things up

[charred gate]

Oh god yes

Please

[ashen warren]

Im debating rn if i star that one

[slim crag]

Convinced me to give that suggestion a star, it'll help a lot if implemented.
Could even make a little reference by making it look like the Buddy Phone from Super Mario Party.

[ashen warren]

I mean we only need 2 npc summon items since imksushi almost took over that objective

Why that suggestion

[delicate raft]

I don't get it

[worthy fiber]

There's already a mana meter on the right side of the screen? 🤔

[ashen warren]

i wonder why

[golden sonnet]

they said figures, as in numbers

[hybrid cipher]

the reason there's only one general channel is because under normal circumstances one is all that's needed

[radiant meadow]

There already is 2 general chats?

[hybrid cipher]

please don't all come flooding into here

[eager palm]

@livid kite as said many times before, there's two general chats. No need for more. People are barely active anyways and we got this wave only because of the everyone ping.

Thanks for your cooperation

[hybrid cipher]

go back to general, i'll take care of it @eager palm @radiant meadow

[livid kite]

General chat and media aren’t the same though wtf There’s already a lot of overflow going on

[hybrid cipher]

that's true, they aren't, i agree there
but still, there's no need for there to ever be another channel for general except for this one time

[ashen warren]

No need because other one will gonna be useless anyways , as ive seen in terraria discord

[hybrid cipher]

this is only for now, anyways

the overflow will be irrelevant in a couple of hours

[cyan lagoon]

@olive bolt might not happen

[rapid pivot]

oooh, my suggestion for the twins despawn thing's got 65

[cyan lagoon]

fabsol wants to distance himself from throwing, but it can happen

[olive bolt]

It would be good if it did happen though. I know a few people who use other mods alongside calamity that are upset by the switch to Rogue.

[hasty wigeon]

Also Pretty sure that that's why they changed it

A reason at least

Other mods may have op items (cough cough Fargo Souls)

[ashen warren]

Should more profaned enemies be added?

[ruby cobalt]

another donut summon

!wiki profaned soul

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Profaned_Soul_Artifact
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page profaned soul for a direct link or !wiki search profaned soul for a list of all hits.

Calamity Mod Wiki

Profaned Soul Artifact

The Profaned Soul Artifact is a craftable post-Moon Lord accessory. It summons miniature Profaned Guardians to assist the player, based on different requirements that must be met by the player.

When equipped, the Healer Guardian is summoned, which slightly heals the player every 5 seconds. Its healing power increases with the amount of guardians present.
When the player has at least 8 minion slots, the Defensive Guardian will be summoned, which rapidly dashes at enemies and grants the player movement speed and damage resistance.
When the player is wearing the Tarragon armor summoner set or any later sets in progression, the Offensive Guardian will be summoned, which also rapidly dashes at enemies and grants the player more summon damage and one extra minion slot.If the player gets hit, they are afflicted with the Burnt Out debuff for 5 seconds, which negates all of the guardians' stat boosts and healing effects for its duration. The Defensive and Offensive Guardians will continue to attack enemies, however.
The damage dealt by the guardians is increased when the Devourer of Gods is defeated, and again when Yharon is defeated.

[ruby cobalt]

@cold flower yeah, about that.

[lost agate]

Its a thing already, but its an accesory

[ashen warren]

We only need a pre prov summon

And not a post prov summon bc donuts

[lost agate]

There is elemental axe

But those suck because i frames

[ashen warren]

Moon Lord drop summon weapon

Not sentry

As that gets immediately replaced

[lost agate]

Uh, pretty sure both summoner drops from ml are sentries

[ashen warren]

Correct

[frail mantle]

maybe ML should drop a weapon that summons True EoCs

[lost agate]

And also, energy staff

[ashen warren]

That what I just said

You want to suggest a ML summon weapon

A ml drop that isn't a sentry cuz sentries are overridden

Yep

[lost agate]

Ah i see

[ashen warren]

Not the ele axe either

Ele axe is rng

[lost agate]

Not rng, its i frames incarnate

[ashen warren]

It's kig bay

[lost agate]

Because piercing damages is hahahues

[ashen warren]

Maybe a minilord

No we need TEoC summon that spams deathrays

[gusty geode]

Why is the first thing people think of for a Providence summon weapon the Guardians
What if I want to summon a bunch of Scorn Eaters

[ashen warren]

I want to summon the profaned dragon

Is this gonna be le mechworm again

Except worse

We dont need it

[cold flower]

I tried

[fossil torrent]

lmao that's literally just amber's donor weapon

[cold flower]

I tried

[fossil torrent]

hey there should be a summoner accessory sold by the Archmage that occasionally spawns a mini cryogen, that throw ice shards everywhere

[ashen warren]

sarcasm intended

[lost agate]

And what about an armor that lets you summon a lot of those so it totally isnt broken?

[ashen warren]

wonder what we can do

[lofty blade]

What do you guys think of making wings stop slime saddle from taking falling damage

[ashen warren]

Nah

Most people are expert at that

[lofty blade]

But there's no reason for it

why would wings negate normal fall damage but not the saddle when lucky horseshoe negates both?

[ashen warren]

[cyan lagoon]

@formal crystal while yes, it's a good idea for yoyos to have an upgradable route as well, you should state some specifics

For example, two of them being:
-Where should these upgrades be placed?
-What unique bonuses do they have compared to their precursor?

When you have this information, put it in your #suggestions-voting post and I'll be more than glad to star it

[rapid pivot]

hmm

For some reason, I can't help but think a little of the Star Cloak, or holy arrows..

Hallowed Yoyo Bag? Chance to cause the star cloak effect with every hit?

[charred gate]

Aaaand just waiting for the Danofelps dude to get banned from here.

Same with Fynn.

I dunno if it's a failed raid or what.

[brave warren]

@ruby cobalt boy

[ruby cobalt]

mhm

[brave warren]

#suggestions-voting pls

oh

[ruby cobalt]

both are now muted

screened the shit, so no way they're weaseling their way out of it

[charred gate]

Bless 🙌

[fresh harbor]

They have old terraria even, ew

Ugly ass old sun

[round walrus]

I wanna star the latest entry but there's no option

[ruby cobalt]

Well, there's an option if you desire it.

[round walrus]

Thank you~☆

[ashen warren]

drh stop sniping me

why

[ruby cobalt]

[lost agate]

Well that was something

[tropic yoke]

Shiv expansion

[ashen warren]

No

Pls

[tropic yoke]

Too baddd

[ashen warren]

There we go.

[tropic yoke]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11JlXWSYoTtGlUtSYYis6MRJ-1Zd1RyFTm0yRfT3nPOc/edit?usp=sharing

Get doced

[fossil torrent]

What happened in #suggestions-voting that drh fucked? just curious

[ruby cobalt]

Something epic.

[ashen warren]

What?

You mean that attempted raid from earlier?

[ruby cobalt]

Yup.

[fossil torrent]

Oh some raid

[ashen warren]

Summary of the suggestions pls?

[ruby cobalt]

User has been banned from this discord.

[ashen warren]

In that case, they were prolly memes

Or imagespam

Anywho, would a dislike function in the suggestion chat be something useful?

[charred gate]

They were suggesting that the mod somehow prevent them from griefing little kids.

[lost agate]

It was two people being douches and offtopic

[charred gate]

Which was something I haven't seen before, tbh.

[lost agate]

Pretty sure there was a slur too

[ruby cobalt]

Two idiots going full dumbo, nothing important, move along.

[ashen warren]

Aight.

[fossil torrent]

All I want is a news role

[lost agate]

@tough delta stop it

[ashen warren]

Would a dislike function be useful?

[fossil torrent]

uhm..

[ashen warren]

Dude stop

[fossil torrent]

Jesus christ.

[lost agate]

Alright thats it

[ashen warren]

We don't make Terraria.

[lost agate]

Warn for days

[ashen warren]

Ffs, I thought that calamity was the least Minecraft thing here.

[fossil torrent]

I’d ban them, they don’t seem to want to be here anyways

[ruby cobalt]

Oh, you'd be surprised how many kids we get.

[fossil torrent]

no i’m just joking.

[ashen warren]

Why do all the losers come to suggestions when I want to discuss.

Why do brains come to this discord in general

It gives me pain

[fossil torrent]

I’d not really think a dislike function would be good, it’d be hard to get to work right and discourage people from suggesting

[lost agate]

Alright this is offtopic

Go away or get ontopic

[fossil torrent]

sorry then nam, i’ll leave

I got on topic

[ashen warren]

Anywho, if people are that discouaged by having a bad disliek to liek ratio, they may not have the judgement that we want in this server.

[rapid pivot]

any thoughts on my suggestion?

[fossil torrent]

I’d just think it’d be more harm than good, id you don’t like something don’t star it

Although I’d really love to smash a dislike button through the ground on some suggestions

[ashen warren]

Yeah

Me too.

[fossil torrent]

cough cough Sequence cough cough

[ashen warren]

His last suggestion may have been directed at a minority out of spite

But he had just of a right to speak out as you

[rapid pivot]

Ah, people should remove suggestions if they get the blue check, right?

[hollow shell]

No

[fossil torrent]

@rapid pivot post-ML not pre-ML
anyway, i like it

[hollow shell]

If a bluechecked suggestion gets- yknow what I'm gonna update the pins because this question comes up a lot

[ashen warren]

Pin dat.

[rapid pivot]

ooh, wait, the same suggestion only came up last friday

[ashen warren]

Ouch

[hollow shell]

There we go

[rapid pivot]

Ah, thanks

[ashen warren]

Snow, what's your opinion on a dislike system on suggestions

[hollow shell]

I don't see the point for one?

[ashen warren]

Aight

[charred gate]

Dafuq did I come back to?

[hollow shell]

. _.

Nothing?

[charred gate]

Oh.

Sorry. I was reading through the chat.

I saw people reacting to the Dr. Heartburn person and they were gone, so no idea what they were saying.

[ashen warren]

He wanted the ender dragon bc "Calamity Terraria is basically 2D Minecraft"

[fossil torrent]

And animals

[ashen warren]

^

[ruby cobalt]

and a dick pic in #calamity-mod-talk

but let's not go there

[ashen warren]

What?

[fossil torrent]

”If you’re gonna do 2D minecraft do it right”

[ruby cobalt]

yes, he posted a dick pic

[fossil torrent]

Wait really?

[ashen warren]

Jeezus

[fossil torrent]

madlad

[ruby cobalt]

[ashen warren]

Thanks for your work I guess.

[ruby cobalt]

if anything, you two should get on topic even if there isn't one NO THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING

[fervent zealot]

sometimes things really do be that way

[ruby cobalt]

ok sleep's sweet release awaits bye

[fossil torrent]

night

same tbh ngl, night

[ashen warren]

Gnight

[charred gate]

I'm drawing a blank for the upgraded spear trap. I have no idea what to really do for it.

Or what it should be.

[fervent zealot]

themed after providence, duh

[charred gate]

Except the other upgrades aren't all themed around Provi.

Also ouch, seems like my suggestions all just get stuck at about 45 stars or so.

[round walrus]

I upvoted, I like them

Oh shit idea

[hollow shell]

@lost agate If possible, would you mind clearing the bluecheck from this Blackhand suggestion?
https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/539903956999077888

It got one because it cancels invasions like a previously delivered suggestion, but I feel it's unique enough to be delivered separately

[charred gate]

Lay it on me fam!

[round walrus]

Ice queen's spear, made with the essence from the polar moon event?

[lost agate]

How tf do i delete reactions? ._.

[charred gate]

As in an individual weapon or a spear trap upgrade?

[hollow shell]

If you look in the Reactions menu there should be an X next to
either the reaction or all the people who reacted with it

Not sure if it appears on mobile though, actually

[eager palm]

i got u sors

[hollow shell]

Ah thanks

[round walrus]

Endothermic energy and North Star, my bad, I blanked on the names

Spear trap upgrade, since they seem to be post ml

[charred gate]

Go for it, mang.

You got the idea, you suggest it.

[round walrus]

No, you got this.

I'm just a helper! The trap upgrades are all you

[charred gate]

Frozenfire Poker Trap
Upgraded spear trap, deals increased damage/ignores most of the enemy's defense, inflicts Frostburn, deals inverted knockback - while poking forward, enemies are pulled closer to the trap. While pulling back, pushes enemies forward, maximizing damage.

Recipe
24 Endothermic Energy
10 Cryonic Bars
5 Crystal Shards
Spear Trap

Tried making the name into a pun based on fire pokers.

[round walrus]

I like it!

[charred gate]

Suggested!

[round walrus]

"Initial Idea by Ace Detective"

[charred gate]

lol

I like to give credit where credit is due.

And I'll repost my post-Yharon summon idea in a few hours once I get home from college, because it's been about a week.

Here's hoping it'll get more than 49 stars.

[tropic yoke]

This doc is gonna be massive

[dusty stirrup]

I just saw that trap suggestion with the liquid

problem with liquids in terraria is that you can't make more than the base 3

otherwise terraria gets completely fucked

[tropic yoke]

I bet with some coding knowledge it could be done/

[charred gate]

I figured that would be the case.

[dusty stirrup]

You can modify the base 3, but you can't make more

nah it couldn't, nightmare fuel

[tropic yoke]

Bet

[charred gate]

No worries, I'll just save it to a doc somewhere so in the future, if by some impossible means ReLogic implements a basis for custom liquids, it can be done.

[dusty stirrup]

go ahead and try

[tropic yoke]

Ok gamer

[dusty stirrup]

yeah relogic whould have to make it possible

[tropic yoke]

Anyways.

Shiv overhaul.

Should I post it when I'm done?

My docs don't seem to get much love.

[charred gate]

I don't know a single person who uses shortswords, let alone shivs.

Dew it.

[tropic yoke]

Which is why I'm suggestion an overhaul

:P

[charred gate]

I was also thinking because Calamity focuses on doing what other mods don't.

So, since shivs aren't popular, let's overhaul 'em and make 'em good!

[tropic yoke]

Like difficulty.

[charred gate]

Pffft

[tropic yoke]

I'll never see normal mode as normal ever again, thanks to revengeance.

Normal would be like creative mode to me.

I bet

Anyways, this is offtopic.

[charred gate]

I mean, I agree completely. I always play in Revengeance now. Used to always play Expert because normal felt weird.

I dunno what to do now. Trap upgrades was my latest and greatest idea.

Wait...

Multipurpose banners

Takes multiple banners for a specific event, such as solar eclipse or blood moon, and condenses their buffs into a single banner

Thus taking up less room

[radiant meadow]

that would be cool

[charred gate]

Call 'em grand sigils or something

[radiant meadow]

banner bonanza already kind of does that though

[charred gate]

Really?

Damn.

No idea what that mod is.

[radiant meadow]

except it's just 1 rack for all banners

[charred gate]

Ah.

[tropic yoke]

Make a middle-ground

Groups of enemies get banners.

[charred gate]

Grand Darksun Sigil
Provides significantly increased damage to and defense from Solar Eclipse monsters
(Fritz, Creature from the Deep, Vampire, Deadly Sphere, The Possessed, Eyezor, Nailhead, Butcher, Reaper, Frankenstein, Swamp Thing, Psycho, Dr. Man Fly, Mothron)

Recipe
All the individual banners for the above, except maybe Mothron because getting a Mothron banner is a pain

And that actually hits the 14 item cap, too.

[tropic yoke]

Darksun Sigil since solar is also a theme for enemies.

[charred gate]

Ooo.

Ye.

Lemme edit that in quick.

[radiant meadow]

There's a limit to how much you can stuff in a recipe?

[tropic yoke]

Ye

Sucks

For fargo

[charred gate]

So many mods I don't know

[tropic yoke]

There's thousands

[misty talon]

Is it really that hard to bypass though?

[hollow shell]

I guess you can break it up by having pre-Sigil combinations

[tropic yoke]

New ones every day, as well

[charred gate]

pre-Sigil combinations sounds good.

[hollow shell]

Like, all the Pre-Plantera ones have their own "sigil"
the Post-Plantera ones have their own "sigil"
and the minibosses (Eyezor, Nailhead, Mothron) have their own "sigil"

[charred gate]

Yeee

I'mma do that

[tropic yoke]

I'd say make a separate counter for the sigils that certain enemies contribute to with their deaths. Maybe put the sigils at about 500 kills.

[charred gate]

I figured the sigils would be crafted.

[hollow shell]

Actually the miniboss one isn't needed

[charred gate]

Are you kidding me? Fuck Mothron post-Yharon

[hollow shell]

No I mean like

Mothron and the rest can just be included with a different group

[charred gate]

Oh.

[hollow shell]

Post-Plantera probably, for Mothron

for
numeric balance

[sinful violet]

are sigils like

[hollow shell]

Superbanners, yes

[sinful violet]

event/mass enemy ban-

ah

p neato

[hollow shell]

That's useless, Drones

They would never be in the same area

[sinful violet]

^

[tropic yoke]

Do mini-bosses have banners?

[hollow shell]

iirc yes

[sinful violet]

Think so

[charred gate]

Minor Darksun Sigil
Provides moderately increased damage to and defense from the following enemies:
Frankenstein, Swamp Thing, Fritz, The Possessed, Creature from the Deep, Reaper, Vampire

Recipe
A single banner for each of the above

[sinful violet]

Terraria's weird about their bosses and minibosses

[charred gate]

Then the Major Darksun Sigil does the same thing but for post-Plantera enemies

[sinful violet]

UFO's are bosses, pumpkings are not

But pumpkings drop trophys

[tropic yoke]

Martian Saucer doesn't count as one

[charred gate]

And you combine the minor and major to make the Grand

[hollow shell]

Sounds good, Taitou

Maybe a doc needed for this?

[tropic yoke]

Yos

[hollow shell]

If you're gonna write it all out 3 times

[sinful violet]

Martian saucer is def a boss, as adrenaline works with it, but it also isn't because there's no bag

[radiant meadow]

mothron is technically a normal enemy I believe

same with goblin summoners

[hollow shell]

and Paladins

[sinful violet]

Code has saucer as a boss i guess, but they didn't bother to keep it consistent?

I wouldn't be surprised

[hollow shell]

Because Terraria

[sinful violet]

Yeah

[tropic yoke]

What if trophies gave bonuses against bosses?

[radiant meadow]

that would be quite broken

[tropic yoke]

How?

Just a like... 15% increase in damage against them or something.

Plus, trophies come after the boss has already been defeated, so it'd help with grinding.

[hollow shell]

That's a p big increase

Holy shit banners are strong

[tropic yoke]

Really?

[hollow shell]

I never knew they were that strong

[tiny rivet]

That damage change can do a lot and trophies are random drops so you could get a random 15% increase on your first boss kill

[hollow shell]

In Expert, it doubles the damage you deal to them and halves the contact damage they deal to you

[charred gate]

Sure doesn't feel like it with Mothron in RV

[ruby cobalt]

Yes, that's what banners do.

[charred gate]

Post-Yharon

[tropic yoke]

See, at least my idea isn't like banners.

[hollow shell]

[tropic yoke]

Want me to make bosses 4x easier?

x'D

[hollow shell]

No that's

that's not recommended

[tropic yoke]

X'D

Aww, I don't have a role ;-;

idk why I just noticed that

Carry on.

[charred gate]

Aight, Solar Eclipse sigils done

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14GKzrtdwEvhKcWW_HdT0jbH9p9Yk__YCs6_i0VvKKrc/edit?usp=sharing

[cold terrace]

you can get the warned role fairly easily

[tropic yoke]

Let's not

[charred gate]

I'll work on the other sigils later.

[hollow shell]

Dang
Grand Sigil is quite a bit later

[tropic yoke]

Also, Minor, Major, and Grand sound noice.

[charred gate]

I figured it would be weird to upgrade to Grand shortly after finally getting Major.

[hollow shell]

Makes sense

Hell, by the time you've killed 50 Mothrons you'd probably be at that point anyway

:P

[charred gate]

Exactly!

And instead of using a weird mix of each individual banner art at once, you can just make a really cool symbol for the centerpoint of it.

Maybe have the Grand sigils have animated sprites.

Just slight color changes or glows or something.

So people will just pause for a sec and be like "Waiiit... Is that animated?"

[hollow shell]

Like... Prismarine Blocks?

[charred gate]

Ye

[tropic yoke]

?

[charred gate]

Cuz Terraria is just 2D Minecraft

Add the Ender dragon

:P

But yeah, subtle like Prismarine Blocks.

I thought I was going crazy the first time I saw those, and I want EVERYONE to feel the same way when they see the Grand Sigils.

[round walrus]

Taitu, we're at 16 already!

[charred gate]

Woo!

[chrome holly]

Tiny suggestion for lore consistency.

[charred gate]

Go for it.

[chrome holly]

Just did.

[charred gate]

Damn.

Also, yeah, that is a good point about Clonelamitas.

[cyan lagoon]

@quick dove they only behave as a pair of wings

but with extra flight time stacked upon their normal flight since they're also boots

[hollow shell]

You can't equip better wings (such as Elysian) while wearing Seraph Tracers

because they're wings

that's what he's suggesting about

[charred gate]

Which pains me inside

I need my flight time, damnit

[cyan lagoon]

Maybe there can be an alternate variant that only functions as boots?

trading off 1 accessory for better flight

[round falcon]

Or people who don't want to use boots

[cyan lagoon]

that's what hes suggesting ig

[bitter sentinel]

Welp, Lunar Eye

[hollow shell]

I

heck I'm very conflicted

I feel like I want to ask you
to flesh it out and stuff

but I also think that'd be fruitless

[bitter sentinel]

Ok

[charred gate]

I get the same feeling.

[quick dove]

oh i see

[charred gate]

Because there aren't really many Blood Moon mobs, I'm lumping in the most common night mobs with the Blood Moon sigils.

Which are called Gore Sigils.

[hollow shell]

yknow what I think I'mma just initial-star suggestions that I would normally think are too low effort to be starred
Because it's not gonna get accepted anyway if it's low effort

Or if it does, it means the concept was so good people got it starred despite the flaws
which means it probably should be delivered

[quick dove]

i wanna use good wings and still have the omega speeds of seraph

why wasnt this already in calamity mod in the first place

[hollow shell]

Because Elysian Tracers and Celestial Tracers exist

[quick dove]

ah

[keen nebula]

What if your seraph tracers used the flight abilities of the wings you used to craft them

[hollow shell]

That'd be hell

to code

[cyan lagoon]

too--

^^

[hollow shell]

absolute hell

either that or there'd be like 50 "Seraph Tracer" items

[keen nebula]

Guessing that you can't store the flight time of the wings as a variable from the item itself

[hollow shell]

I mean

Maybe??
It'd suck trying to work out how to store it though

Not sure if you can get a function to run upon crafting something

[keen nebula]

I also pity the man who integrates his skyline wings into their tracers if this was implemented

[hollow shell]

That too

You'd have to go through the whole recipe tree again to get better tracers, if you regret the one you chose

[charred gate]

Gore Sigils complete.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14GKzrtdwEvhKcWW_HdT0jbH9p9Yk__YCs6_i0VvKKrc/edit?usp=sharing

[hollow shell]

Interesting

I like, would be nice to have in the house

[keen nebula]

These are banners or accessories

?

[tropic yoke]

Not gonna lie TNR is an eww font

Banners

I like the Oxygen font.

[charred gate]

Can't remember if Wandering Eyes have a banner or not. Lemme add that caveat in.

[hollow shell]

just look it up

They don't. They use Demon Eye

there, took 2 seconds

[charred gate]

Aight. Thanks.

[keen nebula]

Maybe he's on mobile

[charred gate]

No, I just sat back down. Was in the middle of class earlier.

[hollow shell]

Ah

I guess put Wandering Eye in parenthesis after Demon Eye, then

[charred gate]

Done.

[hollow shell]

nice

[charred gate]

On to the Lunar sigils!

[hollow shell]

Oh hell yeah

These do sound very useful

I hope~~/know~~ it gets delivered

[charred gate]

Gonna group them into sigils for each of the pillars instead of minor/major because of how the pillars work.

[hollow shell]

Makes sense.

[charred gate]

Lunar sigils done, their end-tier one is the Void Sigil.

Requested a specific symbol for it as well.

...Fuck, I've gotta make sigils for the invasions too, don't I.

I'll do that in a separate doc.

[hollow shell]

Why?
It's a doc, size is limitless

Also, you gonna add those - dividers to the other sigils too?

[charred gate]

...Hecc. Ye.

Tempted to call the Goblin Invasion sigil the Inept Sigil, because according to the game and actual gameplay the goblins just suck.

[hollow shell]

Naah
something to do with Shadowflame

Hmm

[charred gate]

Forbidden Fire Sigil?

[hollow shell]

Maybe Raider's Sigil?

[tropic yoke]

While I'm furiously spriting Shivs, go ahead and take a look at some of my literature:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11JlXWSYoTtGlUtSYYis6MRJ-1Zd1RyFTm0yRfT3nPOc/edit?usp=sharing

[quick dove]

shadow chicken

[hollow shell]

and you can have the "grand" one be Forbidden Fire / Shadowflame

and use the Summoner banner

[charred gate]

The issue with - hmmm.

[tropic yoke]

4 pages of shivs

[charred gate]

My issue with these invasion sigils is the extreme lack of enemy variety.

[tropic yoke]

Granted, I use some 24 size fonts.

[charred gate]

I was able to sort of pad out the Gore Sigil due to Blood Moons being super-buffed nighttime, but how can I really do that with the invasions?

[hollow shell]

What do you mean?

Like, what's the issue?

Just include all the enemies

[charred gate]

It just feels like the recipes are too small to do Minor, Major, and Grand sigils for invasions.

Because there are so few enemies.

[hollow shell]

Oh yeah I'm not expecting that to be a thing

That'd just be unnecessary

[charred gate]

Wait

Idea

Gonna do Raider's Sigil and Forbidden Fire Sigil

[hollow shell]

Ok

[tropic yoke]

Are them shivs good?

[hollow shell]

Yeah they seem good

Just some small spelling mistakes
"Andromada" once, "Xeroc Fhortsword" another

[tropic yoke]

Oh dang

Fhortsword

Speaking of...

I somehow made the Biome Blade smaller than it already is:

[gritty crow]

So it’s the biome shortsword now?

[tropic yoke]

Biome Shiv

Simple

It's just an average Sword-counterpart shiv

[hollow shell]

@bitter sentinel Alright slow down buddy
S'like 3 suggestions in the last hour and a half

[agile cloud]

1 hour slowmode?

[hollow shell]

Nah

[bitter sentinel]

Sorrt

Sorry

[agile cloud]

Also would the scaling stack? or just 10% from the base

[bitter sentinel]

Base

Its self

+here is a crappy model of it

Nvm

[charred gate]

Martian Madness and Frost Legion sigils done.

Aaaaaand suggesteeeed!

The one thing I will ever suggest that I will shamelessly be the first person to star. I'm pretty proud of myself.

[keen nebula]

Kneecap Sigil lol

[radiant meadow]

you can't be the person first to star

[charred gate]

Pretty happy with that one, fits in with the whole Snowman mobster event.

[radiant meadow]

because it was me

[charred gate]

Damnit!

Curse you, role restrictions!

[keen nebula]

Starring your own suggestion

[charred gate]

Oh, I know.

Bad etiquette.

Probably gonna feel like an ass in a few minutes and unstar it.

[keen nebula]

The damage has been dooone

[charred gate]

But for now, relief and pride.

I need the Kneecap? Sigil

Yeah, unstarred it.

I'll let the public decide its fate.

And hopefully it'll get delivered.

I dunno if devs will occasionally pick out certain suggestions and choose those regardless of stars or not, so my hopes aren't all that high.

[radiant meadow]

usually, no

[charred gate]

I figured. Why else have the system in place, then.

[gritty crow]

Okay so this one is a bit odd but hear me out- an upgrade to Draedon’s Heart that includes the HOtE in its recipe. The item would give the buffs from both items, as well as restoring the horror immunity. There is a small cost though- the regen boost from standing still is sliced in half if the waifus are active, as well as slightly lowering the rage and adrenaline recharge by a little.

[radiant meadow]

draedon's heart doesn't affect adrenaline

nor does HotE

[charred gate]

Call it

Draedon's Special Folder

[hollow shell]

That sounds pretty powerful but it's pretty cool in concept
Super Natural Heart combined with Super Artificial Heart

[charred gate]

I'm just happy to free up more accessory slots myself.

[fresh harbor]

I really like he sigil idea tho

Esp with banners coming to calamity next update

[charred gate]

O shit, they are?

[radiant meadow]

yep

except Irradiated Slime and Reaper Shark because idk

[charred gate]

Well, fuck, I guess just change the Blighted Eye and Calamity Eye parts of the recipes to include their banners and not their drops.

Un momento, got a change to make.

[fresh harbor]

Changelog no11

[charred gate]

Aaaand changed

There, now it includes the banners for the Blighted and Calamity eyes

[fresh harbor]

Also the double heart is a neat idea too

[charred gate]

And I'm gonna wait a while to resuggest my summon thing so I don't accidentally block the Sigils from being in everyone's faces.

Because it does appear people will only look at the first few items in the suggestions channel.

[fresh harbor]

Hold the sigils there, I really want that one in the game

[charred gate]

So do I, mang. So do I....

[fresh harbor]

Also, what about Pumpkin and Frost moons?

[charred gate]

....fuck

[fresh harbor]

I don't remember if they have banners, though

[charred gate]

forgot they existed

they do

but only for the early wave guys

which by the point you're farming for endothermic energy and nightmare fuel go by stupidly fast

[fresh harbor]

So what about like
Lv.1 - Banners
Lv.2 - Boss trophies
Lv.3 - Post-ML materials

[charred gate]

Boss trophies actually got brought up earlier.

Also, I now have the Frost Moon music stuck in my head. Thanks.

[delicate raft]

yo, dudes

I got a question regarding a suggestion of mine...

Lets say I want to suggest translating Calamity to Spanish. However, unlike previous similar suggestions, I actually did a doc that contains all of Calamity's content translated. Would that be acceptable?

[hollow shell]

All names, all tooltips, all lines of dialogue?

[delicate raft]

yep

[hollow shell]

Jesus man

[ashen warren]

that's a fuckton of work

[delicate raft]

Took only a week

[tropic yoke]

Meh

[hollow shell]

Like, hold onto that
In fact just send that doc here so I can save it

I don't think translations are on the table at the moment but if they become available that'd be a big help

[tropic yoke]

Actually, code for language translation is pretty complex iirc.

Also...

I finished some Andromeda shivs...

[delicate raft]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f8xnQ5PcCq6GDtE_P4mnbLb4bBvUE31KkBSAfzl4Jv4/edit#heading=h.40e608vmhlds