good idea
#suggestions-discussion
fossil torrent
tulip parcel
dude just gonna tell you now you're startin to fall into them old habits that got you removed
fossil torrent
Hm?
fossil torrent
I got warned when I was unbanned.
tulip parcel
and? you're still acting how you were before
this is the equivalent of going on a diet and eating the same things you usually do
despite being on a diet
ruby cobalt
hat
tulip parcel
the end result will not be losing weight
fossil torrent
well at least I haven't said hat yet
ruby cobalt
You did just now, time to die.
fossil torrent
ono
ruby cobalt
Remember - you're on the verge of being either ext. muted (aka 1 step to a ban) or just straight up re-banned
fossil torrent
I am?
fossil torrent
Well, I mean have I been.. "misbehaving" after the ban?
ashen warren
Am I gonna watch another guy get banned?
fossil torrent
no lol
Aight thanks, that was what I was wondering
I knew I'm gonna be muted/banned if I do mistakes, i know i'm on thin ice, you said that very clearly when I was unbanned
this is offtopic, we should drop it
fossil torrent
Ye, thanks
round falcon
Reading over that recent suggestion, how does one accidentally summon- and kill- Polterghast?
"oops i accidentally kill a polterghast"
I know there's a phantom spirit kill thing, to be clear.
round falcon
Weird flex but ok
frail mantle
tbh Polterghast is the easiest post-ML boss guardians and bumblefuck don't count
round falcon
guardians were harder than provi imo
heavy mural
Duke is harder than Scal tbh
fossil torrent
King Slime is harder than Yharon tbh
ashen warren
Clown is harder than Scal TBH
radiant meadow
@sudden garnet it's easier if it's all in one message and I think the suggestion would be better if the spawn rates were only increased before perfs/hive mind are dead
later in the game, it becomes a nuisance when farming
formal iron
^
sudden garnet
yeah I was gonna add that
charred gate
Gotta love flying through the Crimson and having 'The Perforator Hive has awoken!' popping up because your summons saw the cyst.
radiant meadow
summons don't target the cyst
sudden garnet
since you can then make the spawner anyway
radiant meadow
not actively anyways
charred gate
They can still hit it on the way to smacking something else.
sudden garnet
the main point I am trying to make is its pretty stupid to have to sit there waiting for theme to spawn
charred gate
Which is fair.
sudden garnet
like should either spawn way more
or have a different way of spawning it
it would work way better imo
sudden garnet
when I move they dont spawn
I have been waiting for 10 mins now
and none has spawned
I honestly dont like the hive cysts
they are weird
hollow shell
That's not how spawning works
devout seal
enemies can't spawn on-screen.
hollow shell
You have to move in order to see if a stationary enemy has spawned
delicate raft
And it's only once that you have to search for a cyst
Then you get the summoning item sold
sudden garnet
let me rephrase that
I have been running up and down the crimson for 10 mins and have not seen one
I know that things cant spawn on screen
hollow shell
You got a Battle Potion?
At worst, you can try doing it during a Blood Moon
I've never really had problems with em spawning. I've seen at least one every time I've visited the Crimson
sudden garnet
weird
honestly I really think there should be a different way of spawning it encase these things happen
because at this case I am about to just spawn in the spawners for it since I really dont want to wait for 20 mins and for it to not spawn
hollow shell
Well there is
After you beat it once
Sorry you've got bad luck dude but it's just bad luck
sudden garnet
I mean yeah I know
The last time I played calamity was a year ago
with 2 of my friends
heavy mural
Just make a Zerg xd
sudden garnet
I dont want a million mob spawns tho
hollow shell
I mean yeah, worse comes to worst you can just save it till later after you beat Skeletron
sudden garnet
I mean I kinda need aerealite
runic mesa
tame moss
To elaborate a little, minions would gain no boost to attack speed or damage aside from the normal rage/ad boost, just allows them to make full use of the boosted damage output.
bleak parrot
Any builders here?
bleak parrot
Like Im trying to make sky islands and I cant make a bridge between
tropic yoke
I'd post that in #calamity-mod-talk
Suggestions are like...
Suggesting that something be put into Calamity.
Not really life advice I think.
What if there was a pickaxe that dug out a 3x3 area, like starbound pickaxes?
fossil torrent
u mean modded mc hammers?
Yeah they'd have to be slow
But it's a good concept, drill containment unit tho
fervent zealot
isn't the crystal not a legendary to begin with though
ashen warren
it is
fervent zealot
not according to the wiki
hollow shell
Ye, again, similar
Literally the only sure defining factor that an item is a legendary drop is if it has "Legendary Drop" in its tooltip
hollow shell
I mean, I understood what you meant as soon as I read it
enough people confuse it for a legendary for it to be considered """Yharon's Legendary Drop"""
ashen warren
Ok I already edited it 4 times
I read somewhere that it was gonna be 3 legos per class, is that still the case?
hollow shell
That was indeed the plan at some point
dunno if that's still gonna happen
we haven't really
thought about that much
radiant meadow
considering summoner is still at zero, I doubt it
ashen warren
Rip summoner
@hollow shell doesn’t betsys legendary drop also not have legendary drop on it
fervent zealot
it does.
charred gate
I wish more people would vote on ideas.
red stormBOT
ashen warren
Wait yharims crystal can be dropped in non revengeance?
hollow shell
Yep
hollow shell
That's not necessarily true
ashen warren
you can ask the donor, if they approve then it's fine pretty sure
tropic yoke
Be specific @limpid saffron
tropic yoke
I might try thinin' up one
ashen warren
Bruh this is the rogue update iirc
tropic yoke
try
ashen warren
Watch #changelogs
tropic yoke
Celestus is buffed, that's all afaik
hollow shell
There will be a rogue-focused update in the future, can't remember if it's this one or the one after
ashen warren
"1.4.2.002 is the scheduled rogue expansion update" nvm it's next one
fossil torrent
Probably one after
hollow shell
Okay cool
ashen warren
still
charred gate
Looking forward to a summon focused expansion.
fossil torrent
I really look forward to see the reason to all this rogue shenanigans, why did they make this class seperate from thrower
charred gate
Rogue IS throwing.
tropic yoke
Probably incorporate the frost moon into rogue, considering Beetle, Shroomite, Spectre, and spooky armor... exist.
ashen warren
k: "Rogue has more potential than throwing either way, stealth mechanics that don't slow the player down, more unique weapons, melee-like weapons (instead of just vomiting projectiles like ranged), etc.
And Calamity has always been known to do what other mods don't I guess, why add content to a class that's basically dead in vanilla when every other mod already does the same but better (Thorium, Sacred Tools, etc.)?"
fossil torrent
Vanilla throwing weapons are still throwing, taitou
charred gate
Oh.
ashen warren
There you go, that's why
charred gate
My b.
fossil torrent
Yeah, but they said there will be a specific reason that they will reveal later, that will make us all understand why
ashen warren
Does anyone even read #mod-announcements smh
fossil torrent
is it an item or a feature, can you reveal that much? Assume not
prob a big boi feature
hollow shell
Not gonna reveal anything else other than that something will be revealed
fossil torrent
ye, assumed so
radiant meadow
is there even a need for more rogue armor sets?
hollow shell
Yeah I'd say so
fossil torrent
There's only the helmet specific armor sets for every single other class so why would rogue be an exception
radiant meadow
there's already the basic progression:
wulfrum, victide, aerospec, statigel, daedalus, reaver, ataxia, xeroc, tarragon, bloodflare/omega blue, silva, auric
fossil torrent
^
hollow shell
Well, because
Vanilla already has a ton of class-specific sets
so Calamity needs to make up for it
with the new class
ashen warren
Tbh rogue should have a post statigel set
radiant meadow
early hm? 
ashen warren
Like spider armor et cetera
tropic yoke
Should I take the time to sprite festive armor? It's Frost Moon rogue armor I'm making
worthy fiber
It'd be pretty neat
ashen warren
imagine a throwing rogue weapon like shuriken, but it's christmas tree baubles from the tree miniboss in frost moon, and when you throw em they can be red or green 
fossil torrent
Red deals more damage, green heals?
tropic yoke
what should it look like?
Rogue christmas armor
Maybe a really menacing lookin' Santa outfit.
tropic yoke
jovial spire
the bonuses are too Op imo
radiant meadow
@ashen warren next update nerfs its health
it will have 40k health next update
I think rn it has 60k or 80k, I forget
radiant meadow
get sniped 
radiant meadow
wiki says 60k or 80k
radiant meadow
and when I checked test version, it was 40k
hollow shell
lol
radiant meadow
and I already had test version and was too lazy to downgrade and check
tropic yoke
I'm saving that
That's hilarious
A few inches, several tens of thousands of hit points.
ashen warren
its 80k on expert 😤
radiant meadow
next update, it'll be 40k on expert
ashen warren
@tropic yoke the damage+ is too little lol
Also I think more festive spirits should be required
like spooky armor usually takes 2 pumpkin moons
sleek wigeon
kph
hollow shell
Okay that's
signal ibex
Wait its too OP
hollow shell
That's very similar to your previous one
signal ibex
I mean its called "Prototype God Remote"
sleek wigeon
my point was kph isnt the measurements terraria uses
terraria is always in mph iirc?
sleek wigeon
it seems
sleek wigeon
very
hollow shell
It's not a matter of being OP
sleek wigeon
overly complicated
hollow shell
it's the fact that it's basically the same as your previous one
sleek wigeon
OC for sure
hollow shell
and also the massive image
signal ibex
Oh ok.
sleek wigeon
its too OC
anyhow, fabsol doesnt really like coding summon AI iirc?
so fat chance of that getting in, if i do indeed recall correctly
can we pin a list of everything fabsol dislikes for easy viewing?
fervent zealot
i'll suggest that later
signal ibex
O h
*The Godslayer Remote
"Summons another powerful mecha made by draedon, that uses a galaxy destroying laser cannon as it's weapon it was made to fight the devourer of gods just incase."
What it does: The mecha would rapidly shoot high damaging lasers from it's gun while flying at 70mph, these lasers explode instead of piercing the enemy inflicting godslayer inferno. The mecha would rarely fly up in the sky and fire a 5 tile wide death laser at the enemy, that would instead of piercing the enemy rapidly create alot of the explosions when it hits the enemy dealing additional damage while also dealing godslayer inferno. (The mecha would do this for 10 seconds, before going back to rapidly shooting the enemy with a lot of lasers.)(Also the mecha is 5 tiles wide itself and it's wings are 7 tiles wide each, and its 6 tile tall.
Recipe: 20 Cosmilite bars, 30 souls of flight, 3 galactica singularities, 2 cores of calamity, 25 souls of sight and might.
(Reason: As a better replacement for the DOG summon, since uh that summon is stardust but buffed and resprited.)*
tropic yoke
I feel like I've seen this
nvm
It's a different mech idea.
Also, this is the armor so far :D
metallic santa armor heh
tropic yoke
about...
tropic yoke
Should I post each part of the armor like the legs, body, head, and arms separately and one with all of them or what?
I'll put each thing thing into a frame
ashen warren
I'd say put all the armor into one image
ashen warren
You could just animate the armor and post the whole thing as a gif 
heavy mural
I feel like the mech ideas are a bit too extravagant
radiant meadow
Or post the armor sprite sheet thingy
tropic yoke
eek
That's up there with wall of text stuff
I'll have an animated frame, a still frame, and item frames.
tropic yoke
Is it good?
signal ibex
Greato
tropic yoke
:P
signal ibex
@tropic yoke Self Confidence +1
tropic yoke
I should change my name to flex fuel
signal ibex
yes
signal ibex
Im gonna be that one guy who makes too overly complicated suggestions.
ancient atlas
tropic yoke
Snow, do you think any of my suggestions have a chance of getting in?
reef escarp
the pins don't say anything about the checks
hollow shell
In this channel
tropic yoke
lmao
reef escarp
oooooooooooooo
tropic yoke
hollow shell
And all suggestions have a chance of getting in, yes
tropic yoke
Oh wow, what a gamer
hollow shell
I'd like to think yours have a higher chance due to the providing of sprites
tropic yoke
UWU
hollow shell
But usually it's good ideas that get the most support
tropic yoke
._.
lunar rune
oof that's harsh
hollow shell
Not to say your ideas aren't good, lmao
tropic yoke
I'm gonna go play some more Calamity.
hollow shell
I'm just saying concepts are higher priority than provided sprites
radiant meadow
And more basic means bigger chance of getting in usually
tropic yoke
I've been recording 30-minute sessions/
radiant meadow
Like the candles
tropic yoke
Yeah, I noticed that I've been lacking in explanation.
lunar rune
@tropic yoke how long does it usually take you to make one of those sprites?
lunar rune
mmm
oh.
so, hypothetically speaking, not that i'm considering it in any way, if a mod developer (totally not me) were to hire you to make some sprites how much would you be willing to do it for?
hypothetically speaking
tropic yoke
Damb guy, free.
hollow shell
lmao paying people in the modding community?
tropic yoke
^
hollow shell
Well that's because it's their living
Almost all the spriters here just do it as their hobby, and usually aren't out of school yet
quiet abyss
^
lunar rune
got it.
tropic yoke
✋ Guilty
lunar rune
cries in 16 yo working at mcdonalds
lunar rune
apologies
tropic yoke
Forgiveness
ashen warren
What's with all the damned mecha suggestions?
lunar rune
what mecha suggestions
ashen warren
The weirdo remotes
hollow shell
Kosaku / Adelheid is a nerd
ashen warren
Seen 3 in suggestions and 1 in discussions
ashen warren
I hope the thing that happened with jojo doesn't happen again smh
lunar rune
WAS THAT A MECHA REFERENCE
hollow shell
He suggested a Tusk yoyo last Thursday
jovial spire
Gives the class emblems, avenger emblem, and maybe destroyer emblem a buff.
: With the algalmated brain buff, the class emblems are efectivly useless, as the brain gives almost the same amount of damage along with extra buffs. Espesially the avenger emblem, you could somehow argure that the 3% more damage from the class emblems is better, but the brain is definitivly better than the avenger emblem. And the avenger emblem is post mech, while you can get the brain nearly right off the bat of HM. The destroyer emblem is arguably better, but even thars post golem.
ashen warren
Nah I mean when that one guy was posting like 2-3 a day
A few jojo suggestions every so often is whatever
Have the emblems give 5% crit?
Nah that's pretty strong
jovial spire
Just any decent buff
hollow shell
Or just nerf brain back down
lunar rune
5% crit is decent tbf
ashen warren
The crit nerf on lucky/precise was because 100% crit chance or whatever, 5% is pretty legit.
Nerfing brain seems like the incorrect play without something else to balance it out
keen nebula
Quadpoon
ashen warren
Octopoon
signal ibex
Alot of those suggestions were from days ago.
signal ibex
no.
delicate raft
They'll get sent sooner or later.
sleek wadi
But you can't switch out Demonite for Crimtane and vice versa. That's an imksushi thing.
hollow shell
@echo night That's not Calamity
lunar rune
LOL
sleek wadi
You can get the other HM ore in the same world too with fishing.
earnest raptor
Hm. Okay. I delete my suggestion.
hollow shell
Well you don't need to delete suggestions which have been made before
If it reaches 65 again, it gets marked as being highly suggested in the dev server
reef escarp
lolololololololololololol
devout seal
would it count if i gave myself that star
i know that's frowned upon
reef escarp
bitter flower
no problem
sleek wadi
Hell crate is one star off
reef escarp
nice suggestion
tulip parcel
Snowshovel
"Get some work done"
Pre-Hardmode "Halberd"
Ice + Iron Bars + Wood @ Anvil
A large snow shovel, with a bit of frost covering the edges of the blade.
When used, the Snowshovel starts low in front of the user before swinging upward, akin to a reversed sword. Upon reaching the end of its' arc - a full ninety degrees, roughly - a small smattering of snow projectiles are fired into the air, falling behind the user. These projectiles have very short range, and do not do much damage. However, they have considerable knockback.
elder sparrow
what armored digger needs is actual shit to drop
so its not just a glorified mosquito that hits hard
sleek wadi
I swear the god whenever I see the Festive Armor, I expect the legs to look more like a robe and not pants.
tulip parcel
I'm getting angry at having to shovel snow
so I just threw a snow shovel weapon up
thoughts?
elder sparrow
give it a right click ability so it can hurl snowballs
tulip parcel
good idea
"The Snowshovel has an RMB function as well, causing the weapon to fire behind the user instead of in front of them. If used with RMB, the blade does much less damage, but the snow projectiles that the blade normally fires have a much longer range, velocity, and deal the weapon's full damage."
elder sparrow
the whole wulfrum balance is actually pointless
like why
1-2 damage on a p90 is nothing at the current tier, guy didnt take note of ammo damage
ruby cobalt
what's ammO damg lo
untold gulch
drh are you okay
ruby cobalt
No, I'm not.
tulip parcel
it's shit
ruby cobalt
I'm sick of dumbasses.
tulip parcel
drh we need to buff the p90
earnest raptor
@tulip parcel it's can kill doggy
tulip parcel
less go man
ruby cobalt
No, we don't.
tulip parcel
yeeeeee
ruby cobalt
Reaver + P90 is already good enough.
tulip parcel
nah reaver is wweak
p90 needs to be craftible with halibut
to craft the phalibut
90
ruby cobalt
tulip parcel
nnnnnnnanaaaaaah it does 1 damage
ruby cobalt
not in the mood, Vorb
elder sparrow
the proficiency meter itself is like any accessory that gives info
by that i mean itll still give info if its in your inventory
ancient dragon
Nice one, Crow.
elder sparrow
the only thing you'll get out of putting it in your slot is faster proficiency training
ruby cobalt
ancient dragon
Also I enjoy the Snowshovel suggestion because Shovel Knight. 
untold gulch
just stick the proficiency meters into the cell phone crafting and make the cellphone tell you instead
elder sparrow
the sulphur idea is kind of generic
you know what i thought of though
Noxious Wood: higher tier wood in comparison to shadewood, surpasses pumpkin armor capabilities by a slight margin
hard to get, good reward
likewise itll form your usual wood equipment
elder sparrow
by no means will it completely surpass wulfrum as the wood itself is generalized like your plain wooden set
i'd plan it to give damage and mobility bonuses mostly, thoughts?
untold gulch
fishing ain't needed if you have the dsc to kill
elder sparrow
cba to write on phone so ill make noxious wood stuff tomorrow
untold gulch
it's a good idea though i'm not sure if most people would use it
elder sparrow
depends on how itll benefit in comparison to things you are able to get early, as mentioned wulfrum
so i have to come up with a different but cool spin on early game things
azure sapphire
ok bois i changed the hell crate idea not to fish in lava, but fish in HONEY in HELL biome
now it is viable
now rate it hard cuz it works xd no lol it is a meme so no
but it would be a good idea
same with the sulphurous crate
and the armor
ancient dragon
Watch the fragment-speak.
devout seal
Okay, since i saw a streamer do it:
Make Clonelamitas fire brimstone bursts more often if she has no line of sight with her lasers.
Because she can be cheesed with daedalus gear and a row of asphalt blocks.
tepid root
devout seal
Like, the lasers dont go through blocks
Reverse gravity, run down the asphalt, she pretty much cant do a thing.
Make it so she fires the brimstone blasts, or some sort of block peircing homing attack if she cant maintain direct line of sight.
Or something
lofty blade
What do you guys think of making Brimstone Slag non-explosive resistant?
lofty blade
Takes a very long time to do that
like if you're clearing out an arena for Brimmy, it takes a while to clear it out, and I'm just suggesting this to make it less of a chore
placid moth
I woudl suggest blowing off the upper part of the Underworld
night terrace
💥
lofty blade
But the upper part is still filled with Brimstone Slag though.
tribal glen
magic verge
np
fossil torrent
@magic verge Yharon isn’t gonna be the last boss for long, the mod is far from finished. They’re probably gonna do something special like that for Yharim tho
magic verge
well, it would be nice at least a text pop up
fossil torrent
Yeah, agree on that.
magic verge
mainly because there is no way a player that didnt read the wiki or discord knows that scal is a superboss
eager palm
Terminus drops from yharon because some people have old worlds without the shrine generated or sometimes the world gen fucks up and the shrine is unreachable or doesn't even spawn
Also yharon isn't the last boss as of right now, scal is
Yharim will be post scal
Also xeroc
signal ibex
Yharon is the last boss.
quiet abyss
Nah
magic verge
as an arrow
signal ibex
Oh ok.
magic verge
not as a bigger than
quiet abyss
^
signal ibex
Why is draedon below SC.
quiet abyss
Because he's not as powerful as SC
signal ibex
He is the one that legit created every weapon yharim has.
quiet abyss
Just because he creates weapons for Yharim, doesn't mean he's very powerful, no?
magic verge
well the armor he made for the player was pretty shitty, he must not be that powerfull
signal ibex
I mean, if he can create insanely powerful weapons, he can create the same weapons yharim has for himself. This is too off topic.
quiet abyss
That's like saying a blacksmith that creates a legendary weapon for a hero is stronger than a hero by default of being the creator of the hero's legendary weapon.
signal ibex
oh
ok nevermind then im retarded.
also, uh why does my name stay at new year adelheid.
quiet abyss
If you want your name change to smth, just ask.
This is starting to get a lil offtopic though, so -> #general-talk
signal ibex
I don't think the devs can manage to extend the map horizontally.
signal ibex
facepalm
magic verge
well if they did it w vertical blocks why they cant do it w horitzontal ones
they also added structures in expanded space
signal ibex
Well thats vertically.
magic verge
yeah, but they added space it wasnt there
so why is not the same w horitzontal space
signal ibex
Its not as simple as you think.
Eh nvm
they can probably do that.
easily too!
Also uh we would need the open ocean theme.
magic verge
of course
the main interest of the idea is basically because there is no exploration left in the world
and adding new structures to the already existing one would make it too cramped
signal ibex
I want both of the oceans to be 10x longer than the land.
lunar rune
good luck handling that without like 16 gigs of ram
lunar rune
looks at hytale
lunar rune
Calamity is built on the foundation of Tmodloader which is an API for terraria and can't be changed radically unless there's a massive overhaul
aka not worth it
tulip parcel
boy no
signal ibex
im a genius.
tulip parcel
we already have the abyss
signal ibex
no shut up.
tulip parcel
and if you do this
lunar rune
subnautica shit game change my mind
signal ibex
WHAT THE FCK D- this is too off topic we gonna get warned
tulip parcel
it ruins compatibility with thorium
magic verge
thats not an argument, its a calamity mod suggestion, not a thorium one
tulip parcel
yeah, force people to not play the other biggest mod
great idea
I'm sure it'll be implemented
lunar rune
you do realise that they can just do this on the abyss side of the map
tulip parcel
no they can't
magic verge
dude, they already changed rogue to f up all mod compatibility for thrower, what even is your point
tulip parcel
that's the sulphurous sea
signal ibex
Wow, a simple joke caused all of this
lunar rune
theres a reason abyss and aquatic depths are different sides
ashen warren
Fab wants thorium compatibility fyi
tulip parcel
^^
magic verge
then just expand the other side instead of the ocean
tulip parcel
it's cool, as long as you learn
also expanding the map horizontally isn't a good idea
signal ibex
Can fabsol code my mecha suggestions.
tulip parcel
I think you'd have a better chance suggesting regular biomes
and you don't have a great chance there either
signal ibex
I see fabsol as some god who can create anything.
covert wing
also no they need to reach 65 stars for them to consider
signal ibex
Wait if that was true he would have made a seperate game already.
covert wing
then they just might
covert wing
calamity mod talk exists
signal ibex
.
I meant
every
single video
not
calamity ones
Make general media able to post images or videos.
tulip parcel
that channel used to exist but it got so clogged with crap that it was deleted
signal ibex
its just general talk 2.0
tulip parcel
keep in mind, this is a server with well over twenty thousand members
having a freeforall channel like that is a bad idea
signal ibex
A free for all server.
wait that would be hell
too
wait
add
slow chat
slow mode pfft idk.
tulip parcel
even if you did that you'd still have a bunch of random memers jockeying to post their vore images
it's just a bad idea
tulip parcel
yeah people are awful
signal ibex
Vore makes me wanna die.
eager palm
@signal ibex don't fragment.
signal ibex
oh sorry, my mistake i got too used on fragmenting my sentences.
arctic wren
also expanding the map horizontally isn't a good idea
has someone actually tried it and it made everything explode or is it just effectively impossible to do? curious
tulip parcel
I'm not sure, but expanding the map vertically has already been done
and that caused a boatload of issues that took a few updates to fix
aside from those potential bugs, world size might also become an issue
like, the file size
arctic wren
fair enough
tulip parcel
Instant Wizard Tower Incantation
"Far too unstable for actual construction"
Post-Plantera Tome
Drops from Armored Digger
A tome with a depiction of a stone tower on the cover. The tome is somewhat dusty.
Upon using the tome a gigantic medieval-style stone tower is constructed in front of the player, roughly as tall as a World Tree. Enemies touching the tower will suffer immense damage, and additionally will cause the tower to slowly collapse. Upon being reduced in size six times, or persisting for ten seconds, the tower despawns.
Only one Wizard Tower may exist at a time.
signal ibex
bad for those with shitty computers
quiet abyss
"World Tree"?
As in, those gigantic trees over 2 screen talls or normal sized trees?
quiet abyss
Try to not do that, ye.
signal ibex
I need a cure, i have fragmenting disease.
ashen warren
small world problems
arctic wren
So the kind of tree you'd need to cut down when you get to DoG
ashen warren
smh
signal ibex
I was right
But.
that would be.
OP if your gonna fight a worm boss even if the tower slowly collapses.
tulip parcel
basically the IWTI is designed to be a gigantic, persistent, static projectile
in a way
tulip parcel
stop fragmenting
signal ibex
but the world
tulip parcel
like, just finish your entire thought before you finish posting it
ashen warren
tulip parcel
Also... there are only three worm bosses after plantera
Astrum Deus, Storm Weaver and DoG
Astrum Deus I can see the argument but it's two bosses down the line, and Storm Weaver/DoG are in a completely higher tier
signal ibex
There is still technically astrum deus but i mentioned "Worm Bosses".
tulip parcel
dude, astrum deus is like eleven worms
heavy mural
Imagine having almost 100 Thumbs up and no one sends it to the higher ups 
lost agate
I aint a dev so 🤷
tepid root
i still dont know how to use camera mode
tulip parcel
sequence do I look like a computer hacker to you
do I look like someone who is proficient in the computer hacks like you?! no!!!!
I would have you burned at the stake for witchcraft if only I knew who and where you are!
tepid root
tepid root
idk
round walrus
?
placid moth
nein
frail mantle
did someone commit a big brain
ashen warren
Suggestion: Make T12+ Items' internal rarity Blue (1)
Why: Lava. God. Damn. Lava. It destroys them right now for some reason.
Good suggestion?
ruby cobalt
inb4 they're rarity 0 because you can't set them to anything else because hurdudrcoded
quiet abyss
@sudden garnet Elaborate please.
Why would they need a nerf?
What aspects of them should be nerfed? Their HP, damage, speed etc.
golden sonnet
also we prefer things as one big message
sudden garnet
There damage dealt is way too strong imo
golden sonnet
not strings/fragmented
sudden garnet
and the fact that getting hit once can sometimes just lead to you dying because of the debuffs
also sorry
I will do that next time
ancient atlas
in the words of Piccolo: DODGE.
quiet abyss
Did you actually use the proper gear for them when you fought them?
That's my question.
sudden garnet
Yes
fossil torrent
Just edit them together to one lol
You can remove two and put them into the first one
quiet abyss
Aerospec armor, abyss weapons and all that?
stark harness
Did you use the counter scarf? The dash is fucking amazing when they charge you
sudden garnet
yeah
What I am trying to say is that I feel like the sudden spike in difficulty is a bit weird
stark harness
A large multiplatform arena would go a long way in decreasing that difficulty spike
fossil torrent
Anyway, they are kinda meant to be really hard and require a lot of skill, since it’s the last pre-HM challenge (excluding wall)
sudden garnet
I have done a lot of preparing trust me
I got every single buff potion you can get at this point
fossil torrent
Watch nohit vids on him to see how to fight it, it’s not overpowered and shouldn’t be nerfed in most people’s opinion
Not gonna advertise.
stark harness
Yeah, I think the slime god is fine, he's hard, but as long as you take the time to learn his patterns, exploit the fact that he's a slime, you'll get him
elder kestrel
Buffs aren't everything though
fossil torrent
do this:
U
ashen warren
@sudden garnet You can fight SIren+Leviathan as the first boss in your run. Maybe come back with better gear.
elder kestrel
Really, it's kinda up to how much you're paying attention
You can't like, fight half-assedly and not put any care into it and complain about dying
stark harness
Gotta time those dashes well, time your heals well, keeping your minimap open can help too since it can show their position when they're off screen
fossil torrent
Dodging the orbs is really damn important, too
elder kestrel
I'm not saying you are; but it does play a major part in how you do in a boss
fossil torrent
I wanna send a vid link but I don’t want to advertise lol
sudden garnet
IMO I just think the difficulty spike is not that good in terms of game progression
stark harness
It feels pretty fair considering what comes after and the gear you can get from it. Get in there and make the slime god call you daddy
sudden garnet
the items you get after does not really excuse how much of a sudden difficulty spike there is that makes it not really any fun anymore
elder kestrel
I haven't played in ages to judge; but if what you're saying is right then I DO agree
The spike should flow rather than just jump, if that means nerfing the boss or buffing previous bosses.
But in the chance that you ARE wrong, maybe try taking proper preparations and paying more attention in the fight.
stark harness
What difficulty are you playing on?
sudden garnet
deathmode but again does not really matter what I am trying to say is the progression does not flow well
fossil torrent
It is a difficulty spike for sure, nohitting it took me 45 attempts, most in hardmode by far, skeletron took me like 20 at most
stark harness
You're not wrong that the slime god is a significant leap in difficulty compared to Skeletron, but at the same time you don't need to kill the slime god to progress, and if you need purified gel for anything you can always come back when you're a beefy hardmode boy.
fossil torrent
Yeah slime god is mostly a ”really hard end-of-part-of-the-game boss with good rewards”
wind flicker
I feel like a buff to Skeletron and WoF would be better, since both of those are way too easy in comparison, but Slime God does feel like an end of the section of the game challenge
sudden garnet
exactly
fossil torrent
I think it’s really good as it is
sudden garnet
what I am saying is the difficulty spike its what bad about it
fossil torrent
please don’t buff woffle 
sudden garnet
WOF does not need a buff
wind flicker
yeah I like slime god's challenge, I feel like other things near the end of phm should be close to as hard
sudden garnet
skeletron does
stark harness
I like the slime god as is but I can see where you're coming from that compared to other bosses it really does ramp up in difficulty pretty hard
elder kestrel
Last time I fought him (june if I recall correctly, I doubt he's changed much), he was a bit too fast for me to process, and that proceeded in me getting fucked over
sudden garnet
he has changed a lot since then
elder kestrel
o I see
fossil torrent
Nerfing slime god a TINY bit would be fair, but not so much, it’s supposed to be a hard optional challenge.
elder kestrel
But ye, if you could re-word your suggestion in #suggestions-voting and elaborate then I do agree with ya
agile cloud
The only nerf i can see is like 5 less damage and 5% less max HP
It doesnt need a nerf though
quiet abyss
I feel like this discussion is going around in circles at this point.
So Wizzor, how about you just make your suggestion one big message, saying Slime God's damage should be nerf (Since that seems to be the only thing you think should be nerfed? Though if you think there's anything else that needs nerfs throw it in there) as well as giving a reason as to why, and let us call it a day?
fossil torrent
Agree with Pinkie.
sudden garnet
I also dont like the whole if you get hit once you get a debuff that can then lead to you just dying
I will do that now
quiet abyss
👍
fossil torrent
the pinkie thumbs up™
civic rampart
I like how azatoth can skip phases by putting the yoyo in front of the boss
quiet abyss
Uh, wrong channel, gyy?
sudden garnet
Generally having a huge difficulty spike is not good for a game in terms of progression or in generally making it fun and fair not feel like a grind. one of two things needs to happen 1: Skeletron needs to be buffed as then the difficulty spike will not so noticeable or 2: we can nerf slime god just a bit as I understand he is MEANT to be hard but I feel like it just becomes unfair compared to the gear you have at the time
quiet abyss
Ye, looks good.
Throw that in #suggestions-voting now.
civic rampart
Crap thought i was in #calamity-mod-talk
sudden garnet
lmao
quiet abyss
Rip
fossil torrent
maybe delete the old post?
fossil torrent
You aren’t dw
ashen warren
oof slime god is easy if your using rogue, but if your using another class its difficult,
placid moth
Did he just say huge difficulty spike in slime god
ashen warren
the other classes should have better weapons to fight him i guess? i think the bosss is fine tho
placid moth
Abyss weapons should be more than enough to shred Slime God.
quiet abyss
He got valid points though, read the discussion above.
Let's not continue this discussion again.
sudden garnet
the gear you have at the time just feels a bit underpowered
sudden garnet
I dont want to start this again
fossil torrent
said buff
sleek wigeon
if you dont want a difficulty spike you could just
skip the boss
hes completely optionally for progression
tulip fulcrum
Skeletron? Maybe until Plantera
placid moth
Immediate like for that, Zevix
ruby cobalt
the fuck is this shit
ashen warren
oof i dont know how to draw so i put it in ms paint 
stark harness
Better than anything I could draw
sleek wigeon
If someone built in the soon to be hallow and a spike ruptured through their build, i would be outraged
on their behalf
stark harness
Maybe the spikes could work like meteors where they won't spawn too close to chests
ashen warren
the chances of that tho?
ashen warren
xd
magic verge
ms paint is great for quickly illustrating an idea no bully
charred gate
It is, I'll give you that.
covert wing
yeaah but anyone can use it
ashen warren
yay a good idea from me
Remarkably simple. Care to elaborate as to why it should be ingame? Yharon has enough drops as is imo.
the mod needs more mounts
there like 3
alpine garnet
dragon egg in recipe is kinda akward imo
ancient atlas
^
fervent sky
@ashen warren I was actually planning out a Yharon mount as well, I thought it could be either dropped by Yharon or crafted with stuff from him, and he could have 3 attacks: Shoots fireballs at nearby enemies automatically, double tapping forwards makes it do a loop and send out a spiral of fireballs, and using the grapple button while mounted on him would do a thing I haven't quite come up with yet. Just thought I'd share that since we had similar ideas.
ashen warren
The Timepiece
Calamitous beings resist it's power...
A clock-like activation device that applies exo-freeze for 5 seconds to any enemies on-screen. Upon use, it inflicts the 'Watch Mending' debuff, which prohibits the use of the item for about 15 seconds.
Crafting: (15) Enchanted Metal + (5) Hallowed Bars + (100) Cogs + (1) Gold/Platinum Watch @ Hardmode Anvil
: Exo Freeze is unused due to it's high spam potential and ability to effect bosses. But it isn't noticeable on the later game weapons' Exo-Mix due to the sheer amount of damage that the weapons deal and the late game immunity that bosses have at that point.
hollow shell
A bit OP
May need to increase its cooldown or reduce the debuff length to like 3 or 2 seconds
or both
ashen warren
OP against what?
hollow shell
If used efficiently, you could have enemies/bosses frozen for 1/3 of the time you're fighting them
sleek wigeon
enchanted metal?
hollow shell
The stuff sold by Permafrost
sleek wigeon
alright
ashen warren
Needed an obligitory ice reference 'cuz frozen time and stuff.
sleek wigeon
seems neat
ashen warren
Problem with it is, I don't want it to be too OP, but only at early HM is it useful against bosses.
Or signut for some reason
Wait, what? It affects vanilla bosses all the way up to the moon lord, but the Eidolist has an immunity?
hollow shell
Eidolist is immune to all debuffs.
That immune NPCs section does seem to be incomplete but it'd take some scouring to find all the NPCs immune to all...
ashen warren
I think ML is immune, but that'd break the boss if it wasn't, wouldn't it?
frosty kindle
Generally anything that can freeze bosses can break them
ashen warren
DoG didn't break too much when it wasn't immune
frosty kindle
Or generally trivialising things.
Also, having the cooldown be as short as 15 seconds....
ashen warren
Having it be as short as 5 seconds
frosty kindle
ashen warren
Maybe applying Chaos state instead, due to how space/time have a relation and denying the ROD in case of fighting against bosses that trap you, while using both items.
frosty kindle
That, and for an extended period of time
(Also memes on players in abyss that use the time stop)
ashen warren
Yeah, Eidolon Wyrms are immune 
frosty kindle
But soon after the time stop ends.
ashen warren
No, they are immune, I misspoke, they'd rip you a new one if you tried anything in the abyss with Chaos State
frosty kindle
Precisely
void mesa
yo anyone wanna help me flesh out an idea
tropic yoke
wot be it?
void mesa
right now it's just a very basic idea, a shield for summoner that's a weapon, can be thrown or used to block
whether or not it'd deal good damage or inflict a debuff is unknown since i thought of this not long ago
ashen warren
Summoner?
ashen warren
Sounds like Captain America's Shield
void mesa
so i figured there should be something to change that
ashen warren
Also, Summoner isn't supposed to fight on it's own
void mesa
it could be a throwing weapon then
ashen warren
Throwing
ashen warren
I tink they meant that all the former throwing weapons that got converted.
fervent zealot
those are still throwing.
ashen warren
Those didn't get converted
fervent zealot
like i literally just said.
ashen warren
Beenades
fervent zealot
vanilla throwing didn't get turned into rogue.
void mesa
so, back to the shield. is there any possibility for a summoner shield
fervent zealot
no, that defeats the purpose of summoner
void mesa
how so
fervent zealot
. . .
ashen warren
It sounds like the flying Knife tbh
And also, it isn't its own thing
Its a shield, that you throw/control
The minions have minds of their own.
hollow shell
@lunar rune Like Metroid Fusion?
Can't say I'm really a fan of the idea either way
Seems very superfluous and would feel weird every time it happens
delicate raft
Maybe just make them appear after the boss is defeated as a way to get their drops without defeating them again
heh
ashen warren
How about no.
If you want mimics/bosses, fight slime god
@delicate raft I'd give that a star
delicate raft
ashen warren
It honestly makes a lot of sense, it'd give the bosses a permanent death like the lore implies
delicate raft
ashen warren
Going with that point, the DoG one would be redundant. BC the DoG is merely defeated, not killed.
Also, Provi could reform, along with her guardians.
Bumbles are really reproductive
hollow shell
Yharon definitely dies tho
ashen warren
And Yharon seems like the only one that doesn't have some cheese way of reviving.
Yep
delicate raft
I guess gods really don't fear death
delicate raft
ashen warren
I guess that leaving Armored Digger as a Non-DOG enemy was for the best
frail mantle
@fervent sky the achievement for defeating Providence could say "Defeat Providence, the Profaned Goddess of both Light and Dark"
fervent sky
👌
fervent sky
Shall we discuss my suggestion?
fervent sky
That could be interesting
Some of them wouldn't work though, like Forbidden Lullaby and Infernal Catharsis
signal ibex
Why do i like the old astral pallete better.
fervent sky
Because Astrageldon Slime is sexy
frail mantle
Forger of the Cosmos: Craft an Exo Weapon, a machination of Draedon meant to serve his master. Craft an Exo Weapon.
frail mantle
Savior of sailors: Defeat Siren and Leviathan, a duo of an entrancing singer and an oceanic behemoth. (Defeat Siren and Leviathan)
fervent sky
Sounds good to me, I'll make sure to credit you
frail mantle
fervent sky
Credit added
keen nebula
Add an achievement for obtaining any legendary weapon
fervent sky
I was browsing on the forums and there was a mod called Achievement Libs that added the capability to add achievements, and it supported mods, so I thought it might be interesting to think of some
@keen nebula will do
young fog
There isn't one for Yharon tho 
fervent sky
I'm getting to it
young fog
Aight
frail mantle
Wheeze of the Jungle Dragon: Defeat Yharon, the loyal companion of the Jungle Tyrant. (Defeat Jungle Dragon, Yharon)
young fog
He Attacc:: You have broken the limits of the world's defense. (deal over 100K DPS)
fervent sky
signal ibex
Ultimate Glass Cannon: Defeat any post ML boss with no defense
fervent sky
Cool
signal ibex
Profaned Guardians dont count
fervent sky
What should the achievement for getting a legendary item be?
radiant meadow
A Legendary Experience!
Acquire a legendary weapon.
fervent sky
Ooh yeahs
signal ibex
Golden Experience
get over
500 Platinum
Wait no 50 gold*
Star Platinum: Get over 50 Platinum
young fog
Weapon of Myths: You have obtained a weapon of a long forgetten age. (Obtain a Legendary Weapon)
eager ridge
What about an achievement for killing the adult eidilon wyrm
signal ibex
Why the fuck: Killing the eidolon wyrm.
radiant meadow
Is Excalibur considered a myth?
radiant meadow
nah, adult eidolon wyrm achievement would be dumb
pliant bone
Kill SCal in Death 🤔
fervent sky
In death armaggeddon defiled
young fog
Ghost of a Grudge: Defeat the hardest obstacle, a leviathan resting in the void. (Kill the Adult Eidolon Worm, reference to Subnautica)
pliant bone
Dear god
signal ibex
Are you yrimir?: Finishing the boss rush with no defense and wit only 1 HP at death mode.
young fog
that is dumb
frail mantle
aka Arma BR
radiant meadow
Achievements should not be that hard
signal ibex
ok.
pliant bone
Yrimir dead
radiant meadow
achievements are meant to be fun little things, not things that require god like skill to accomplish
signal ibex
I want the yharim to fight the player with a stand like NPC
young fog
ngl the only achievements I don't have is the truffle house and the fishing ones
signal ibex
Yharim is DIO.
fervent sky
Yes Daddy: Kill SCal with Death, Armageddon, and Defiled active at the same time
signal ibex
prove me wrong, the only difference is yharim is a lizard.