just realized that
#suggestions-discussion
alpine copper
Yup something more or less like that
Just gonna point out that it looks more like a golden heart than a life fruit
But thats kinda irrelevant
Both the vase and the lantern could be hanged from a ceiling or placed on blocks and platforms
Thanks for the sprite by the way
glossy bough
np
glossy bough
ok
fossil torrent
@glad crystal Why didnt you just.. die...
glossy bough
but why would you kill the cultist...?
tired haven
Pretty sure if you teleport very far to home, cultist despawns
Though probably description won't hurt, at least vague one
"Don't use it dingus, you mock the impending!.."
fossil torrent
Lunatic Cultist: Far to Home
glossy bough
Dying is an option too
and if you do iron heart/hardcore without knowing what the tablet does, that's on you
radiant meadow
Eidolon Tablet won't get a tooltip
delicate raft
Oh? There is already a reason behind that?
tropic yoke
Soup
fossil torrent
Soup
radiant meadow
eidolon is supposed to be a surprise
bitter topaz
the tablet being a surprise isn't a good idea imo.
it'd work as one if it weren't a summon which boils down to:
"oh look at this item, it probably gives me a buff or something so i'll use it to hopefully get out of this situation quickly!"
"oh wow i died because i had 0 idea it summoned LC because absolutely nothing points too it."
or on the off-chance our unfortunate strawman somehow defeat LC
"oh wow now i have to deal with the bloody celestial events. great."
this obviously ignores being cautious with mod content you don't know, but gets the point of "surprises shouldn't be a potentially unavoidable death, since that's the literal definition of bad design" across somewhat well
literally the only hint that it's related to LC is ediolists resembling cultists, and even then you shouldn't have to assume a random drop is gonna spawn a boss
fossil torrent
it’s a good troll tho
ashen warren
tbh i agree with bidoof, lack of tooltip on a summon item isn't good 
dusty stirrup
yeah but fabsol wants to keep it as a surpise item, you can teleport out of it anyway
devout seal
Well, this seems like a bad idea
calm onyx
Or just close your world.
devout seal
Considering the fact that king slime is the best source of souls due to the enemies he spawns, and how easy he is to spawn
ashen warren
Buff King Slime to astrageldon level in HM level then.
lavish lily
Well then don't make the tablet obtainable so early on
ashen warren
That would defeat the point of it altogether
calm onyx
Soul farming is one of the worst parts of hardmode imo. Making souls harder to get just seems dumb as it doesn't add any difficulty. Rather, it makes things more tedious.
ashen warren
Craft ectoplasm into souls
lavish lily
There's no way that suggestion is going to make it in the game anyways
calm onyx
Yeah. I thing most agree soul farming is ass.
ashen warren
^
calm onyx
Especially early HM when you can still die easily.
lavish lily
Even if it got enough stars fabsol would just take one look at it and go "dafuq?"
calm onyx
Using zergs is at least not suicidal late HM.
ashen warren
It's supposed to be an encouragement to fight bosses and explore biomes
calm onyx
I just see souls (in vanilla) as something preventing me from bullying a bunch of a boss.
dusty stirrup
king slime one shots
calm onyx
Ropes are enjoyable, forever enjoyable.
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren doesn't she already say something along those lines
delicate raft
@twilit scroll specify
Dude, you expect someone to guess your concept of "useful"?
terse rain
crystal vile shard is useful
it's the only magic weapon that can attack through walls at its point in the game and while it has rather low dps it's great for cave exploration and crowd control
ashen warren
@devout seal are you referring to the guardians in provi's fight, the guardians in their own fight, or the profaned soul? It's a bit unclear
devout seal
The fight against providence
ashen warren
uh, the healer guardian is using the healer guardian sprite
this was taken on the current patch (lower left you can see the healer has the correct sprite)
devout seal
wait
no, i'm talking about the ones in the actual fight
like, against the guardians themselves
The main one should be the Healer
Not the attack guardian.
ashen warren
you mean swapping the guardians and not just the sprites then?
devout seal
Pretty much, since it just personally irks me that the attack one isn't the one attacking, it's the one with the healer sprite.
Plus the attack one has an incomplete sprite anyway, needs to be finished.
bold spruce
What's the problem?
devout seal
The main guardian is using the attack guardian sprite
when it isn't the main guardian, the healer guardian is.
bold spruce
The Crystal one heals, the main one attacks, and the rock one tanks
It isn't the main guardian
It's just harder to kill because of how fast it is
And because the healer is focusing more on healing Providence than attacking you relentlessly. That's her job.
Also look at Providence's wiki page
sleek wigeon
I dont understand what that suggestion wants
ashen warren
the healer guardian to be the last one in the guardian fight, not the prov fight, from what i'm understanding anyways
bold spruce
This is from Providence's page
ashen warren
again, not the providence fight
bold spruce
Alright, they're talking about the individual fight. Why would the Crystal guardian be the main one?
devout seal
Because it's the healer, which is usually defended by other things.
bold spruce
But has the healer been the leader of a squad before?
round walrus
@twilit scroll Instead of editing your suggestion like that you could always delete it
twilit scroll
sleek wigeon
Healer is being protected. its being protected by the tank
DPS is also a good canidate for being protected
devout seal
Then we need to make the tank look more tanky.
i'll delete my suggestion anyway since it's just confused everyone
sleek wigeon
what?
round walrus
That looks a lot better sasa!
lost agate
Oh and about the guardians suggestion
The main one has the offensive sprite because he does literally the exact same things
Goes above you and shoots a hecka ton of spears
I dont really see it needing a replacement
golden sonnet
that health color suggestion is the most niche thing ever........... but whatever floats your boat I guess
fossil rivet
Yeah, I know.
unique vector
what do you mean by the health/mana colors changing?
bold spruce
Probably refers to some way to recolor the Health Hearts and Mana Stars
unique vector
but what im confused about is how they are changing in the first place
because that sounds like a bug more than a suggestion
bold spruce
The health hearts and mana stars change color when you consume their respective permanent power up items
fossil rivet
Things like the elderberry, blood orange and phantom heart.
young fog
So you can choose a set aesthetic for the UI
fossil rivet
Yeah, basically. But only with the preexisting items and colors.
delicate raft
Rogue, not rouge 
devout seal
@lost agate Then the attack guardian needs to be edited so it looks more attack oriented.
lost agate
Wdym?
It has a spike and doesnt look as fat as defensive
And the fact healer has a crystal is related to provi having a crystal on her core i guess
devout seal
It needs to have less rock, more fire, and more brambles.
bold spruce
I think it looks fine as it is
lost agate
Well, the reason isnt clear to me
Not like the offense one shoots fire
And the roots from healer might have grown by being too close to provi or w/e
devout seal
To increase the amount of roots
so it looks more dangerous.
lost agate
How are roots menacing?
tulip parcel
hmm
devout seal
Because it'll look sharper and more threatening because jagged.
that's pretty much why
radiant meadow
Keep in mind that main/offense has the same AI in both fights
And crystal/healer hovers around main guardian/prov
quiet abyss
^
lost agate
Wait who tf is pinkie?
quiet abyss
Ya can just check roles ya know 
radiant meadow
lost agate
O rite
radiant meadow
It'd be nice if I had UT and DI but I still wouldn't have Dev
lost agate
It would be nice if i had just DI you know
arctic notch
Any thoughts about my suggestion?
civic rampart
Would be nice if enchanted boomer is swapped out for something else
arctic notch
Like?
golden sonnet
seashell boomerang?
sudden quail
Something Dungeon-related would make sense
arctic notch
There aren't any Dungeon boomerangs.
Was going to think of one, but had no idea for it.
sudden quail
Well, there aren't any Corrupt/Crimson boomerangs either.
arctic notch
I made one because I had an idea for it.
golden sonnet
just make it drop from dungeon skeletons, like the ancient stabber or whatever
sudden quail
Crescent Moon
A pre-hardmode boomerang that can be found in Dungeon Chests.
Its stats would be similar to the other dungeon-exclusive weapons, and its design would have a blue shade to it.
Done
tropic yoke
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4xjHf6f_ZMgt63yqKExpmEKusyQt3Bc-xOoxlueoFM/edit?usp=sharing
Hey, does this work for anyone?
Also, I’m working on Core Weapons again!!! ^-^
ashen warren
Eleum staff seems the most weirdest in terms of crafting imo
Looks good, assuming if the 'null' suggestion gets added.
On another note, should the plague debuff get buffed?
It's just another flames debuff
alpine copper
Yeah yeah everyone wants a way to spare calamitas but sparing brimmy when?
finite canyon
spare ravager tbh
ancient atlas
spare king slime 
alpine copper
Lets just spare yharon and let the furries be happy
finite canyon
you can already spare most of the bosses by not summoning them smh
ancient atlas
most
we need a class that fights by typing in chat "FRIENDLY! STOP KILLING ME!" instead of dealing damage 
finite canyon
mechs, eye, and king slime cant be spared
unless you just run away until they despawn
alpine copper
But seriously tho, i find brimmy's story sad to a point i dont even want to to equip armor
ancient atlas
^
finite canyon
shes not required
alpine copper
You get a damn flying stone throne and a brimma-loli from her tho
ancient atlas
brimma-loli
finite canyon
you beat her up and steal her child and way of transportation
hazy glacier
what are the white checks for
ancient atlas
finite canyon
already submitted
hazy glacier
oh hi YuH
alpine copper
For check-ing them out
hazy glacier
nice to see ya again
finite canyon
i was never gone e, i always watch
hollow shell
@rapid hamlet Sorry to say, buddy, but you can't suggest developer weapons
or dedicated weapons, rather
lost agate
If you become a donator you might get a dedicated item
rapid hamlet
ah, well. worth a shot, yeah? apologize if it was somewhere in pins and i didn't see.
jovial spire
Its ok dude
hollow shell
Yeah it is, 4th-ish rule in the rules pin (in #suggestions-voting)
frail mantle
^
rapid hamlet
it's not like im just gonna not own up
jovial spire
You might wanna delete it too
rapid hamlet
yeah, im certainly trying. tad shonky internet
jovial spire
I understand
reef escarp
it is deleted good
reef escarp
what rule?
rapid hamlet
eh, glad you think so. rules are rules though so pff
frail mantle
the rule that says you can't suggest dedicated items for other people
reef escarp
oh
rapid hamlet
i suggested a dedicated weapon for dokuro and considering it's too late™ and I'm on mobile I didn't see it right away lol
frail mantle
ashen warren
It would be nice if dokuro got his hammer ingame but that's his choice
reef escarp
and i was thinking there is a weapon named the banhammer and it one-shots every none-boss enemy
frail mantle
that's something from AlchNPC
fossil torrent
Pretty sure they know that
delicate raft
Why do you suggest stuff for content that doesn't even exist yet?
You don't even know how's it gonna be
Maybe your suggestion is actually planned
ruby cobalt
Low-effort suggestions are warnable btw 
dusty stirrup
I've never really been too sure what the blue check means
ruby cobalt
sent already, duplicate suggestion
sudden quail
That genuinely sounds awful
devout seal
Would asking to lower the drop rate of Sky Glaze in hardmode be reasonable..?
ashen warren
prob ye, it's kinda useless in hm with no upgrades so i don't see why not
delicate raft
Ye
heady comet
fr'kin
lunar rune
The thing is that can apply to alot of prehm weapons in HM and it's not really worth it
devout seal
Well, you spend alot of time in the sky in hm
so, alot of harpy deaths
so, you have alot of sky glaze's in your inventory
ruby cobalt
^
Most things drop from slightly-less-common enemies.
uh
And Harpies are literally everywhere.
arctic wren
I like the new essence idea but I wonder what they'd be used for 🤔
I think having one essence for each class would need a lot of recipe changes to work
delicate raft
Ye, adding new crafting materials is a lot of work
fossil torrent
hey, are you a spirit mod enthusiast or somehing? Because that’s spirit mod
earnest raptor
frail mantle
what
novel pebble
^
lunar rune
is my suggestion bad or something? if so i'll delete it
sudden quail
The suggestion itself is fine, but I reckon Calamity has enough crafting materials.
ashen warren
wasn't this already suggested?
azure sapphire
how about sulphurum crates? you only get them in that sulphurum sea
and need more than 50% fishing power to get them
frail mantle
why was my suggestion not starred? did i commit a big brain?
azure sapphire
xd
proven tide
WB uwu
spark flax
Sky Blaze
The power of an ancient sunbird is contained within
What It Does: Magic weapon, post-mech tier. Fires burning feathers from the sky with slight homing. Feathers deal no initial damage, but inflict On Fire and a stacking Daybroken a la Daybreaker (though nerfed as needed). After sticking to the floor or an enemy for a few seconds, explodes in a large area (possibly slightly smaller than the Blissful Bombardier, to give a comparison).
How It's Made: Sky Glaze + 5 Souls of Sight + 5 Souls of Might + 5 Souls of Fright + 5 Essence of Cinder @ Crystal Ball
Why It Should Be Added: Sky Glaze is basically the suckiest weapon to ever suck and that's a shame, because a weapon that doesn't do anything at first hit as a trade-off for some large potential numbers is an interesting conceit. Enter the Sky Blaze, which solves several problems with the weapon - it can do minor DoT output before the explosions to dispatch small enemies, the feathers have mild homing, and most importantly the explosion range is notably larger, allowing for crowd control and for feathers that get stuck on nearby blocks to still have a decent chance of putting out work.
spark flax
because why buff the sky glaze when you could make another fucking magic weapon UPGRADE THAT [SWEAR WORD REDACTED ON ACCOUNT OF WHY CAN'T LILITH JUST SAY FU-]
azure sapphire
no swearing plz
spark flax
i like this idea
proven tide
Any particular reason it should be post-Mech-locked?
spark flax
i have absolutely no reason why it should be post mech
azure sapphire
and then making it upgrade post plantera
ashen warren
It's for calamitas I guess
spark flax
i just wanted to include essence of cinder somehow
azure sapphire
and then goes for post yharon wep
civic rampart
The sky glaze is post eoc
ashen warren
Since mage suffers there apparently
spark flax
and i figured adding the souls sounded good because there's already a shitton of mage stuff early HM
ashen warren
"no swearing plz" what are you, 7?
civic rampart
Avoid fragmentation, it's against the server rules
spark flax
oof
proven tide
Yeah, onelining and flooding, dramatic effect or no, are generally frowned upon.
That should be good
Now, back to the topic at hand(s, 'cause I'm applauding): post-Mech, mages get the Gleaming Magnolia as well as the SHPC
ashen warren
About the weapon, seems cool and also nice
Have you used the sunlight spear from apothmod?
spark flax
Nope!
ashen warren
Perhaps your spear could be a prereq (even though sun spear is throwing)
spark flax
I want to do another modded playthrough, but I fucked my hands up from too much video games and I need to be resting them for at least a month more
civic rampart
Apoth mod is meant to be a meme
spark flax
Otherwise I'd be trying apothmod and other things right this instant
proven tide
Apothmod should be used to accentuate the existing features of Calamity, IMHO
ashen warren
It already does tbh
proven tide
I mean, don't play it without Calamity
ashen warren
Rip Lilith's hands 🇫
spark flax
rip lilith's deathmode playthrough 2018-2019
"it was pretty ok"
anyways i leave now until i post the thing but one of these days i'll be back with fixed hands and approximately 2,449,253 true melee weapon suggestions
proven tide
that's fair
I can't think of any way to really touch up on the Sky Blaze
Perhaps alter the recipe to better reflect its firey theme? Other than that, it seems fine.
I'd recommend posting it during primetime tomorrow when it's more likely to be seen.
spark flax
yeah that makes sense
hmmmmm
maybe i should add Hellstone Bars or something?
idk what would work well as fire theming
ashen warren
Living fire?
spark flax
oh yeah, true
proven tide
Living Fire, Essences of Chaos and Cinder, and, uh..
Hallowed Bars to make the rod of the staff itself, I guess?
ashen warren
You forgot Gel
junior tendon
@Lord Drails#9944 yeah uh
Aqua fits mage more
And Gaia ranger
Tbh
Also fuck mobile
tepid root
essence of h2o
ashen warren
Just use water buckets.
It's that easy
tepid root
o h
junior tendon
Cinder is fire
junior tendon
the word tho
proven tide
Chaos is fire. It's red. It drops from fire elementals. It is used in fire weapons.
junior tendon
Oof anyways I gotta get back to suffering
proven tide
Cinder is lightning. It's yellow. It drops from sky, space, and storm enemies. It is used in stormy weapons.
civic rampart
Make chaos essence pop into your inventory whenever your game lags
proven tide
Jokes aside, Chaos/Eleum/Cinder works well as an 'essence'-based trio because A) the Fire/Ice/Lightning elemental trio is a classic set of energies (or lack of energy, in the case of cold) that play well off of each other thematically and provide a nice, rounded set of toys to play with (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FireIceLightning).
And B), unlike 'Gaia' and 'Aqua', which are materials, fire, lightning, and the freezing cold are all expressions of entropy — they are not substances, but reactions and effects. To concentrate these and purify them so as to leave the core, elemental essences makes sense.
What is the essence of water? Water. What is the essence of ground? Dirt, or stone, depending on who you ask. Ground.
Pohatu and Onua would like a word
Ultimately, Gaia and Aqua are strange, self-defeating, redundant concepts, and I reckon you should seriously reconsider the suggestion.
@lunar rune
In case you can't access the link, here's the important part:
It's not hard to see why these three are so popular. Fire is fire, ice is fire's opposite due to being shinier and more crystalline than water or earth, and lightning is louder, glowier, and comes from the sky. Furthermore, if you conceive of ice as just "coldness", all three are forms of Pure Energy (or pure lack-of-energy), and thus can be shaped into Energy Weapons or launched as Glowy Beams of Doom. To go further, when one thinks of the actual damage dealt by fantasy elements, it is mostly just physical force with an elemental twist, (e.g. the water element is often a physical torrent of water, the earth element is rock-based physical trauma, the wind element is brought about by fast-moving air cutting against skin); however, these three express a unique form of damage: burning, freezing, and electrocution.
aight noted
placid moth
done
proven tide
@placid moth Doesn't the Forbidden Armour have Mage bonuses anyway?
ashen warren
Yeah, and I can see how'd that effect some people. But wouldn't the hybrid be better altogether. Extra summon DPS is nice imo
civic rampart
Maybe make forbidden armor ignore rev+ summoner mechanics?
placid moth
That'd be broken though
civic rampart
Like make summoner mechanics follow prehm mechanics
radiant meadow
you're lucky it's disabled
but like actually don't say random offtopic stuff especially with a tag like that
fossil torrent
who’s lucky what’s disabled
quiet abyss
Everyone or here tag, most likely
fossil torrent
I hate the pinkie mindgames I get so confused lol
”waiit you don’t know what you yourself meant... oh wait lo”
civic rampart
Lol just realised pinkie has two users
fossil torrent
Nope one’s termingator
civic rampart
Ohh wait you can change your tags?
fossil torrent
The one with a umbrella is termi
ashen warren
the one without nohit roles is termi ye
quiet abyss
Nah, me and the other Pinkie are 2 different peeps. The one with the umbrella is termi.
We both are just confusing people for fun by choosing the exact same username/nickname.
This is getting offtopic though, so drop it
fossil torrent
my explaination not enough?
vestal elbow
Post-ML instead 
keen nebula
I feel like that would make for its own mod better than calamity
ashen warren
Melee has alot of options post-ml tho
Only part where it would struggle is Yharon
It doesn't need buffs
placid moth
jovial spire
I did a melee playthrough a week ago, dosnt need buffed at all
In fact in some areas its OP
heavy mural
Perfect Dark is surprisingly good
fossil torrent
Eh, pretty damn meh for skeletron
It gets stuck on platforms right?
Yeah that makes it a lot worse
signal ibex
Yay no one gives a damn about tusk.
placid moth
?
placid moth
uh ok
alpine copper
What is this and where the idea came from?:
Ya see, after playing the fanmade undertale RED I was inspired by the saw blades in the fight against little red to make this weapon for thrower class but i suppose now its rogue
frail mantle
if it's rogue why not have meld bars instead of Vortex and Solar fragments 
alpine copper
Cuz i usually see rogue as a combination of melee and ranger
But good point
Ill.change it
frail mantle
yea, Rogue is sorta a sexually confused melee/ranged hybrid but Meld Bars are basically Rogue-specific fragments
alpine copper
Any opinions?
Since it uses meld bars maybe i should change on fire for cursed inferno
frail mantle
both Cursed Inferno and On Fire is probably a bit weak for the point in the game where you'll get this item, so maybe rather Daybroken
alpine copper
Perfect
sudden quail
Why the Mech Cart pieces?
alpine copper
Cuz chainsaws
Skelly prime
And stuff
Since greatsword of judgement has a big ass tooltip made mine big too
fossil torrent
Not censor, corrected jay
lost agate
Nah it dies on hardmode
keen nebula
To complement the abyss crystal suggestions for base-building, I raise the creation of a super-builder accessory to make it easier, just like how we have the Supreme Bait Tackle Box Fishing Station:
Supreme Construction Fannypack:
-Architect Gizmo Pack
-Toolbelt
-Toolbox (Have the Mechanic or Goblin Tinkerer sell this)
-5 Shine Potions
-5 Builder Potions
-5 Mining Potions
Has all of the effects of the Architect Gizmo Pack.
Increases block placement range, tool use range, and speed dramatically.
Provides the Shine buff, which can be toggled via visibility.
someone probably already thought of this though
Mostly want this so that I can make my wall of flesh arenas faster
heavy mural
Skeletron Melee more like 3 Tracks and Perfect Dark
rapid pivot
Does my reaver shark thing seem reasonable?
ruby cobalt
Yes, and yet it goes against the spirit of "non-linearity" that we have..
Before Calamity used to cockblock Reaver Shark to post-BoC/EoW.
Now it doesn't, and it's unlikely that we will go back to those times.
rapid pivot
Aw. Oh well.
Or.. hm..
Maybe..
How's that?
That'd at least make people farm the Desert Scourge to get it, so there's a bit more effort required.
opal barn
I like the 2nd one tbh
ashen warren
2nd one is better ye
ruby cobalt
Ye, you can ditch the first one since it's never getting in.
rapid pivot
Alright, better?
rapid pivot
like, i'm thinking it'd be decent to raise it to around the point where if you didn't have the ultimate fishing accessory, it'd be a rather large pain to get
and to get that early, you'd need to either do a lot of angler quests or farm the desert scourge really hard, yeh?
alpine copper
Drh have any feedback on my weapon suggestion?
fossil torrent
Oh ~yeah yeahno no
ruby cobalt
Remove daybreak, add more bleeding.
alpine copper
just edited it, i hope its better
lava generated by lava slimes does nothing to the player if royal gel is equiped and lava slimes should be affected by royal gel if they are not
radiant meadow
yeah, but you can still kill them
rugged acorn
just make lava slimes gravitate towards the player smh
radiant meadow
and they still get lava everywhere
hushed night
i think they are affected by the royal gel, but the concept of the lava slime not generating lava while the royal gel is equipped is a decent idea @alpine copper
ashen warren
Lava slime lava kig bay
hushed night
yeah the lava slime has always been one of the worst problems with the underworld since expert mode was released
rugged acorn
yeah until after you kill WoF
casually eats a 350 damage trident
what was changed about lava? haven't played calamity in a while
hushed night
they plan on making lava more lethal
radiant meadow
next update makes lava more dangerous
hushed night
its in the changelogs somewhere
radiant meadow
stuff like lava charm and obsidian skin pot will be more useful
fossil torrent
lethal lava land
radiant meadow
stuff like lava immunity from angel treads+ will be less useful
rugged acorn
it'll be less useful?
i believe the lava spawned from the lava slime would be affected by this since when you die to it it gives the same death message as dying to lava iirc
hushed night
it legit just spawns a buckets worth of lava on death, and they are not uncommon in the slightest
rugged acorn
could encourage players to get lava waders/obsi skin potions earlier
even tho any real terrarian brings obsi skin potions the first like 3 trips to hell
hushed night
just like making the things more uncommon would be enough in the end
ashen warren
Seems like they're trying to make that damned rose accessory relevant.
tame moss
On the take of "support" enemies, what if slimes of the same/similar type could merge, gaining increased damage, defense, and hp? would add a bit of fun to the king slime fight since the slimes he spawns would get stronger if not dealt with
hushed night
like, instead of making lava more painful to deal with, you could just like, buff the rose?
radiant meadow
it will be more useful next update, hopefully
lost agate
Wasnt that already suggested?
radiant meadow
uhh, it might've
hushed night
did someone else also want to nerf the lava slimes lava generation?
tame moss
tbh, swap lava slimes lava gen for a scatter of highly damaging, lingering projectiles. Does the same thing, without lite™ griefing
hushed night
that is actually an amazing idea
tropic yoke
Omega Null or Void?
fossil torrent
Omega Lull
tame moss
🥚 🥚 D
charred gate
As long as the slimes stop destroying everything I know and love when in hell, AKA torches, campfires, banners, and platforms.
runic mesa
^
runic mesa
ive always hated lava slimes b/c of that. i just turn off lava slimes via cheat sheet when im building WoF platforms
charred gate
...So THAT'S what the NPC browser is used for!
runic mesa
yea
charred gate
I've been using Cheat Sheet for the magnet, recipe browser, paint tools, and teleports.
runic mesa
i also do that so my friends DONT SPAWN DoG IMMEADIATELY
charred gate
Pffft
runic mesa
i mean immeadiately as in like we have copper shortswords
radiant meadow
uhh, obsidian platforms already are not dislodged by lava
charred gate
Obsidian furniture is dislodged though, including torches and campfires. You'd think they wouldn't, cuz obsidian platforms aren't, but it's true.
runic mesa
well now aint that neat
radiant meadow
I think obsidian furniture like chairs and stuff aren't dislodged
idk about torches or campfires
runic mesa
WELL TIME TO SPAWN THOUSANDS OF LAVA SLIMES
hollow socket
hmm i like the tooth ball invention so maybe I can possibly and freely create one of my ideas?
nahh
ashen warren
@hollow socket write in your suggestion what this item does
hollow socket
oh ok
cyan lagoon
I'll star it once it's complete
Be sure to remove the extraneous unrelated messages once it is
tame moss
so it's like a lootbox? lol
jk
maybe make it more like a mimic, gotta take it down for a reward, but it has to be powerful enough for that point in the game
runic mesa
^
tame moss
I mean to follow up:
Pumpkin attacks similar to a mimic, but with a few added specials
- Summons a spirit jack-o-lantern that flies near the plater and fires cinders
- Stays still for a little, then releases a spread of cinder projectiles in all directions
- Lobs a single exploding lantern
etc, etc. make it like a miniboss
brittle bane
Add a config option to change rogue to throwing, or at least make rogue get throwing bonuses
rogue ruins all mod support from mods with equipment that gives throwing bonuses
delicate raft
spark flax
welp, dropped Sky Blaze in
frank stratus
oof
bold spruce
Yeah that useless weapon needs an use
barren hound
like the idea of sky blaze but i think the explosion shouldnt be that big, especially if its for every feather. the size of dynamite would be better suited for a post mech weapon i feel.
ashen warren
Star moderators are on vacation again >.>
heavy mural
Yes.
hollow shell
The former is a no cuz it's unfinished
the latter I will fix post-haste
(I've been a bit pre-occupied these past few days 
)
radiant meadow
yeah, some people have been complaining over the lack of checkmarks
they kept thinking the check system was abandoned
quiet abyss
Perhaps I should have checked in more often since I can deliver suggestions too
hollow shell
(damn it termi)
radiant meadow
quiet abyss
(Termi started the switcheroo back up again not me, I just followed along )
jovial spire
Or are you termi and lying about your identity
radiant meadow
I think they are termi, who has nohit roles and dev
radiant meadow
Could veer back on topic at this point
quiet abyss
^
alpine copper
Star requirement was raised to 65?
quiet abyss
Ye it was
alpine copper
Ok but why tho?
radiant meadow
because suggestions still flooded the dev server
hollow shell
A lot of suggestions were getting delivered when it was at 50
Like, almost half of all suggestions posted, if not more
So we gotta be more selective
quiet abyss
Raising the star count is to make it easier on us
By reducing the amount of suggestions getting delivered.
alpine copper
With so much ppl on the server im not surprised that 50 star was easy to reach
hollow shell
Yeah, some of the devs were wondering if we should have raised it more...
quiet abyss
Almost 27k members total now
bold spruce
Perhaps
alpine copper
65 should be fine
radiant meadow
at least it isn't 35 stars anymore 
alpine copper
Making it impossible to reach its not the idea
jovial spire
I wouldnt mind 70 tbh, 75 is a bit too much imo
quiet abyss
It’s over 27k now? Damn
radiant meadow
like 20-ish people over
quiet abyss
That was quick, a day or two ago it was like 60 peeps below 27k
alpine copper
In other news dragon ball terraria server decided to use calamity star system
You guys are inspirational
quiet abyss
Cool, ig? 🤔
spark flax
fixed sky blaze explosion size!
fervent zealot
i think it's very inspirational that we're the star of the show™
hollow shell
Motherfucker I'll get to you
ashen warren
Kk
vital grotto
wait how'd you do that
hollow shell
(I'd also like to know this)
radiant meadow
you click the button by a message (the one you click to edit) and hit copy link
hollow shell
Oh that explains it
It doesn't appear in the right-click menu
ashen warren
And on mobile, you hold down to select a message and click Share
radiant meadow
imagine thinking 117 is a lot
Tranquility and Chaos Candles have 172 stars
delicate raft
lost agate
And they are pretty much ingame already
radiant meadow
hollow shell
whar
radiant meadow
Phup spoiled them in this channel a while back.
hollow shell
Oh
radiant meadow
I promise I'm not leaking content
delicate raft
oohhh
radiant meadow
she said they will probably be in the upcoming update
delicate raft
nice
jovial spire
wait they have 172 now shit
heavy mural
First suggestion posted 
radiant meadow
thing is, I am going summoner vs scal and the guardian probably won't help a lot
hollow shell
oof, that'd make for some even more massive recipes
radiant meadow
I mean, it's the recommended armor for Prov anyways so you should've made it
ashen warren
Auric tesla is already pretty damn powerful and has a long crafting recipe... Do you want it buffed and even harder to make?
heavy mural
Well as the later part of the suggestion says, an upgrade would obviously be in place for things such as the guardian
radiant meadow
and there is like zero reason to sell them if they still are no value
heavy mural
Well it's not necessarily harder to make Panel
Even if it was the last item on your list
It's ML you have to kill
ashen warren
depends on what you had before that
heavy mural
Well if it's the last item for some reason you would have Post Yharon stuff
Plus trying to beat Providence with something like Beetle armour doesn't seem very fun 
ashen warren
Also, how would you add the four moon lord tier armors into the crafting recipe if it uses the same body and leggings for different classes?
that would mean 4x the farm
heavy mural
You do have a point
ashen warren
or 5x the farm with xeroc...
civic rampart
Somehow beetle armor is best preml armor for melee
heavy mural
But there are certain recipes that are just the same thing but with 1 difference
Mostly Pre-Hardmode
ashen warren
I guess body and leggings could be one of the four
and helmet would change based on what class you make it for
heavy mural
Aye.
hollow shell
@signal ibex I can only assume Tusk is meant to be an Auric/Exo yoyo?
Delivering it now, just noticed you never said how to obtain it
winged adder
Oshit
My suggestion is almost at 100.
Neat.
I guess people really like the cosmetic stuff.
runic mesa
my original HM armor buff suggestions are all enough to get seen. neat
i wish my revised hallowed buff got to 65, but whatever
torn creek
bold spruce
If I were you I wouldn't complain otherwise you will be super unlucky and never get it when you need it the most
brazen wedge
brazen wedge
they should make queen bee larvae have health like the ??? or the hive cyst
cyan lagoon
If it could be made an enemy instead of a """tile""" then possibly
sleek furnace
i mean, the larvae is basically a mix between a table and a cobweb, not really sure how you'd give it HP
brazen wedge
oh
signal ibex
@hollow shell hm, yes.
hollow shell
Should include that
keen nebula
When Auric rogue is demonshade but better
fossil torrent
Rover, if we all already know that the candles are programmed and done, why not goalflag it?
radiant meadow
because it's not implemented yet
it's planned though
it's not in the test versions yet
~~mainly because it's not in #changelogs ~~
hollow shell
Yeah if they're not confirmed in-game then they ain't flagged
fossil torrent
Ah, got it
signal ibex
*God Remote
"Summons a powerful mecha made out of the auric alloy."
Recipe: 30 Auric Ore, 25 Souls Of Might, 15 Cosmilite Bars, 3 Yharon Soul Fragments, 30 Endothermic Energy/Nightmare fuel, 10 Profaned Geode.
What it does: It summons a 6 tile tall and 3 tile wide mecha. This mecha would take out it's laser sword and charge at the enemy with it, slicing them rapidly dealing alot of damage, it also occasionally stops and would charge a kamehameha like attack for 3 seconds, firing off a powerful death laser that once hitting the enemy it would rapidly cause high damaging auric explosions and ignores immunity frames.*
charred gate
Wwwwrong chat my boi
radiant meadow
it's fine
people put suggestions in here all the time for feedback before posting it in #suggestions-voting
signal ibex
^
hollow shell
Not sure if the image is really necessary
charred gate
Hecc, now I want a Bionicle summon.
The design for the mech is just giving me some Bionicle vibes for some reason.
signal ibex
its different from ordinary gundams.
hollow shell
cuz its god
signal ibex
Its uh super saiyan gundam, without the ordinary control system
charred gate
Yeah, I'll take a small army of Bohrok or Rahkshii.
signal ibex
Y know I was gonna add a third attack, but that would be too much.
charred gate
Suggested my own unique summon. Here's hoping yours gets accepted, Kosaku.
sleek wadi
The People's Faith
Consumable
Permanently boosts flight time, DR, acceleration, mana usage, crit chance, and grants 1 minion slot
Pops up in your inventory while you have every Vanilla(except Santa) and Calamity NPC moved in and an inventory slot is open.
Getting all the NPCs currently is kinda pointless and the power balance between NPCs is wack. Sometimes you get Goblin Tinkerer and Nurse who are both super essential, sometimes you get Pirate or Tax Collecter who are so useless they're kinda slot filler. This would incentivize actually collecting every NPC and not leaving Stylist to die every single time.
It also ties into the lore, as faith is what both gave Brimmy most of her power and what made Astrum Deus a thing.
I'm thinking of making some of the stat boosts more class-exclusive, like ammo consumption instead of acceleration or melee speed instead of DR.
charred gate
I actually really like that idea.
signal ibex
astrum was already a thing even without faith.
What i meant is that it already existed even without people knowing.
charred gate
^
signal ibex
Astrum got vored in the inside by doggo.
charred gate
The Astrum Deus we face is the Astral Infection creating new hosts/bodies for it.
charred gate
playing w/o knockback immunity
lost agate
shit not giving a shit about KB immunity
sleek wadi
Masomode change: Astrum Deus has attained the power of Atlas, and now its knockback is so intense it save & quits you out of the game upon contact
charred gate
Actually, I don't remember an Atlas getting close enough to hit me.
hollow shell
What's a Bohrok
civic rampart
No it just quits you without saving
charred gate
Bohrok are from the old, OG Bionicle.
hollow shell
You should use a different word when referring to them so that 99.9% of the population can understand it
charred gate
Aight, changed.
hollow shell
Thank you
charred gate
Ye. Sorry about that.
charred gate
Should I post a pic here or edit in a link to one for what I'm suggesting the summons look like? Or should I just leave it to the imagination?
signal ibex
Uh if you want it to like something post a image.
if not
leave it to the imagination.
devout seal
@quartz pond The mod is not yet complete, so there's no reason to merge those two.
quartz pond
frosty kindle
Besides, merging those two sets effects would create some mad-overpowered set but also... quite a few clashes, you could say.
to think of it, Auric armor sets rely primarily on survival/tanking, while Demonshade goes for a more risky, Glass-cannon oriented style of gameplay.
lunar berry
basically the ultimate nohit armor
devout seal
Thanks for the star
frosty kindle
@devout seal (psst, what crafting station would be needed for it? Ancient Manipulator, or somethin?)
frosty kindle
perfect
devout seal
How'd i do on the bazooka upgrade sprite?
frosty kindle
👌
azure sapphire
hey does this mean my suggestion might get added in the game?
frosty kindle
it seems good, lots of stars and you also got the dev tick, so it might get into the game. I'd also like it in.
(However, a dev tick doesn't mean it's guaranteed to get in.)
azure sapphire
am i the first one to come with the idea?
frosty kindle
in the form of a suggestion, i think so
also, best of luck for it getting in one day.
azure sapphire
the 50% fishing power makes it hard, i think it will be changed prob lol
frosty kindle
having a low fishing power requirement makes it easier to obtain at earlier stages, though
azure sapphire
maybe some other sulphurum ores after golem who knows
50% would mean golden fishing rod if u wanna fish in prehardmode
i'd think 27% is good
50% in hm tho
i should make a suggestion about an auto fisher
frosty kindle
i think LuiAFK mod has an auto-fisher.
frosty kindle
a one where you place the fishing rod of your choice in and it fishes with said rod for you.
frosty kindle
nah, its fine
but yeah a fish harvester is pretty cool, good that luiAFK included it. (well, seeing as its a QoL mod after all)
azure sapphire
since i have been muted for one year i am trying to actually respect the rules lol
how about a new prehardmode armor , let me think of what it should be made
frosty kindle
pre-hardmode for armors seems okay as far as my opinion would go, but one or two more alternate sets would be a nice addition, too
azure sapphire
summoners maybe
maybe some more meteor sets like thorium?
but also require some other stuff not just meteor bar
frosty kindle
perhaps a sulphuric, or abyss-themed pre-hardmode armor could also work?
frosty kindle
i'll leave the final decision and thoughts to you.
azure sapphire
cuz most of it most be done from fishing too
oh i got an idea lemee write it in suggestions
faint rivet
Isn't Planty mush hardmode 🤔
Yeah it's post mechs
I mean sure you could fish for it in prehm but who likes fishing
rich prawn
it's a fishing armor
faint rivet
Who actually enjoys fishing though
ashen warren
I do 
faint rivet
tired haven
tired haven
Fishing be like "consume b8"
faint rivet
more sequence breaking pickaxes
azure sapphire
the only claw in prehardmode 
ashen warren
There’s one you can get from the desert pretty sure
azure sapphire
digging?
ashen warren
No, weapon which is also called claw/claws
devout seal
Uh
azure sapphire
well we want a pickaxe / axe claw
devout seal
Planty mush is post plantera
ashen warren
Unless you fish
faint rivet
Pre-plant
azure sapphire
which go through stuff
devout seal
Oh, so that's why it's only use is life fruit..
faint rivet
And you don't get any mobs going after you if you spawn in AS
azure sapphire
yeah planty mush needs more uses
imagine a challenge: live in sulphurum sea
deese stuff are number one
faint rivet
Won't be as hard as living in the abyss
azure sapphire
abyss in underground sulphurum sea right?
tired haven
Living in 1st layer of abyss doesn't take much tbf
tired haven
Iron Heart tbh
faint rivet
Tru
civic rampart
And then aqua scourge spawns naturally
faint rivet
Don't touch him and you have permazen
civic rampart
owo
quiet abyss
Expand on that suggestion a bit maybe?
Something like perhaps pointing out which aspect of Golem should be buffed, or maybe think up of an idea for a new Golem attack to make the fight harder and more interesting.
quiet abyss
👍
untold gulch
arigatou
azure sapphire
guys got an new idea of CRATES
low hedge
WOAH
ashen warren
there's very little reason to fish in hell atm so depending on what you get from it, it's probably fine
fossil torrent
Depends on what it does.
proven tide
27-80? yeesh
azure sapphire
i think crates will become a meme
azure sapphire
lets hope, maybe an emoji too
sleek wigeon
prehardmode loot
you cant even fish in lava pre hardmode
Hotline fishing line is hardmode
ya heck
ashen warren
doesn't hallowed crates have prehm loot as well tbf?
tiny rivet
they do in fact have pre hm loot-
novel pebble
you need a rod for that
earnest raptor
Spinning Blades or just Blades
Rogue weapon category
Blades appears as a throwing variant of true melee swords (you can't make Blade's variant of Arkhalis, Terra Blade or Perfect Dark).
When you use a spinning blade, you shoot a spinny projectile, that fly very fast and doesn't affected by gravity. Pre-hm blades can fly around 100 tiles, hm - 500, post-ml - 2000.
If blade projectile hits enemy, it deal damage a four times and dissappear. Other side of that feature - you can throw only one blade in a range of half-duration of projectile flying (f.e. you can throw second pre-hm blade, only if first pass a 50 tiles). But you can just hold mouse, because all Blades have a autoattack!
Damage - 80% of base sword.
Craft - base sword + 20 Throwing Knifes @ Anvil of game stage
Some additional advantage for rogue players, specially in early-mid-pre-hm and post-Golem.
Decent?
frail mantle
first of all, i am confused over how it works
second of all, i'm confused over the fact that you can make it from any true melee sword
would that mean making a new item for basically every true melee sword? cause that doesn't really feel necessary, both since that would mean adding quite a lot of weapons at once, and also a lot of new sprites required if every weapon and projectile looks different than the swords they were made from
earnest raptor
ashen warren
A boomerang sword
earnest raptor
No.
earnest raptor
Blades just move to setted direction.
frail mantle
so...just throwing swords at enemies?
ashen warren
Very effective
earnest raptor
Without gravity. If blade hit enemy, these deal damage a 4 times and dissappear.
Multi-hit, as wingman.
@frail mantle kinda yes
tiny rivet
for a moment i thought you were suggesting that the weapons were basically the projectiles swords shot but you could throw them instead
frail mantle
do you just throw the sword itself, or do the swords that have on-hit effects inherit the effects?
signal ibex
I predict in the future the requirements to get suggestions sent to the dev server will be 200.
earnest raptor
@frail mantle inherit.
Like Stellar Blade shoots lunar flares, and Crimblade rains a ichor.
ashen warren
Ah
earnest raptor
4 times.
frail mantle
then it would be extremely op with things like the Holy Collider or the Grand Guardian
ashen warren
Earth lol
earnest raptor
Use speed is 20
frail mantle
still pretty damn powerful
earnest raptor
3 swings per second, if you stand exactly nearby enemy.
In reality, you needs wait, while first projectile reach some target or hit ground.
frail mantle
the reason True Melee swords have so powerful effects is because you literally have to get close to the enemies to even hit them
for example, the Spinning Holy Collider would nearly be the same amount of powerful as the god damn Celestus
an early post-ML weapon that functions nearly the same and has more damage than one of the last rogue weapons in the mod you can obtain
earnest raptor
@frail mantle fixed.
civic rampart
making rogue even more sexually confused with ranger and melee
But it's a good suggestion
signal ibex
I can imagine throwing true melee weapons
earnest raptor
@signal ibex boomerangs also no-G, but u didn't mark them as OP.
earnest raptor
You can throw other sword, if first passed a 50 tiles.
signal ibex
I just figured it out, thats why i said nvm ;C
earnest raptor
You can imagine other weapon, which can torn out these fucking zombies, in first night?
(but you can kill only 1-1.5 zombies per second)
signal ibex
ok.
ruby cobalt
Good to see that it's never gonna get in!
signal ibex
^
earnest raptor
Added size dependency.
signal ibex
That makes it.
weak
as
fck
once you reach late HM and uh Post HM
oh fck nvm i thought it meant -80%
uh still OP.
fossil torrent
Way too high Hel-Fire droprate
fossil torrent
Yeah but it'd just spam your inventory with Hel-Fires
fossil torrent
@signal ibex elaborate, maybe say what the lore should be?
sleek wigeon
Instead of having a new yoyo litterally on the same tier
why not just b buff obliterator
tepid root
oof
signal ibex
Facepalm, im fcking retarded today
civic rampart
Maybe add effulgeant feathers to the recipe?
signal ibex
.
.........
the feathers arent in the theme of cosmic.
and uh it would be so out of place.
heavy mural
Also things that use a certain item shouldn't have to look like it
civic rampart
Like how alpha ray still looks the same after yharon gate
cyan lagoon
@alpine copper problem: coding an extraneous, functional slot will be extremely tough and most likely disturb game balance
see wingslot for example
alpine copper
I already explained my reason behind my suggestion
cyan lagoon
i said that before you edited it
just giving you a heads up
having eight accessories is not to be taken lightly, and pretty much makes it a liability more than anything
since you can't synergize other shields with eachother to get more bonuses as well as the obvious free accessory to put anything you want in there
alpine copper
And yes while its kinda an unstable thing to code wingslot improved over time so i know its doable and tbh it would be a nice qol thing
Now i do agree with you with the shield thing
But my main idea is the profiency meter thing
fossil torrent
Shield shouldn't be, but prof meter and things like DPS meter should be
alpine copper
But a good idea would be a boots slot
And since the sprite only shows one boot
Two slots
ashen warren
Eh
ancient dragon
Nnnno, not really.
The more accessory slots you add, specific or otherwise, will massively shift the balance and meta of the game towards later stages, thanks to the superaccessories.
It's too much trouble for too little payoff, since you'll be making characters even more powerful by the endgame and powercreeping shenanigans will begin anew.
ashen warren
Later game boots are wings
fervent zealot
proficiency meter slot would be kinda nice tbh
ashen warren
A level meter slot would be the only thing that is relevant without breaking the progression.
What svak said
alpine copper
What about a exp bar that shows your profiency level and current profiency amount in the GUI only when a meter is equipped?
keen nebula
If wingslot was vanilla then the demon heart would not exist
alpine garnet
I could see proficiency, but shields are good enough to warrant an actual accessory slot imo
fossil torrent
just fought the solar pillar with xeroc greatsword in Deathmode btw, it's really not a problem, I barely got hit and didn't die once even if I had blood pact on 
lapis kernel
Does it even fire a projectile?
fossil torrent
It does, it's exactly like terratomere's but worse in every aspect
deals less damage, slower, slower fired, homes worse, doesn't heal e.t.c
lapis kernel
Tbh I don’t even use like 90% of the melee weapons
It’s not just the xeroc that feels useless it’s like everything
fossil torrent
I've probably used almost every single melee weapons because of memes
lapis kernel
Even the chain knife?
lapis kernel
What about those swords you get in hell that just upgrade into stuff
And the first version of Yharims ultisword?
devout seal
Do you guys think the bazooka upgrade i made is a good idea
fossil torrent
o ozza starred it, good sign
delicate raft
Looks good to me
heavy mural
I'm glad that my first suggestion is at 77 rn
round walrus
The mecha got to 65! Nice!
hollow shell
I will never understand why some valid suggestions don't get starred.
devout seal
What do you think about my suggestion, rover?
hollow shell
Big Bertha?
@viscid blade You're totally able to fight Polterghast after Providence, you're not breaking progression or anything
ruby cobalt
That's... actually the intended time
Polter is an optional boss that can be fought at any time post-ML.
I wonder why did you delete it.
hollow shell
Post-Sentinels doesn't really give you much
I doubt that those wand upgrades are super necessary for beating Polter
fossil torrent
yeah seadragon
ruby cobalt
That's uhhh, about it?
fossil torrent
or thanos gun, the superior weapon
ruby cobalt
Cosmilamps, a big maybe?
ashen warren
mistlestorm is nice
fossil torrent
THANOS GUN FFS
hollow shell
stop