suggestions-discussion

[glossy bough]

more, right fucking now

[brazen wedge]

new birb superboss

[glossy bough]

we're all gonna get warns for this

[ashen warren]

Birb themed stardust cell summon like mourningstar and Phangasm

[glossy bough]

except me I already have a warn

[ashen warren]

I have ten, slacker

[glossy bough]

ok

[brazen wedge]

should i ping CraftyMooMan to let him know that calamity's vanitys already adds one

i guess i will

@arctic notch calamity's vanitys already adds one

[arctic notch]

It does?

[brazen wedge]

ye

[arctic notch]

I'll get that eventually.

Thank you for telling me.

[brazen wedge]

it also adds providence and profaned guardians light pets

ceaseless void pet

[arctic notch]

Does it add a DoG?

[brazen wedge]

no

[arctic notch]

Or Calamitas?

[brazen wedge]

no

crabulon and eilideon worm tho

[ashen warren]

Vigil is calamitas summon/pet

DoG has the plushie

[brazen wedge]

signus and cryogen as well

[arctic notch]

Yeehran?

[brazen wedge]

also on of those despair stones in the crags

no

[arctic notch]

Ok.

[brazen wedge]

astrum deus spider thing too

[ashen warren]

The invite is on the art server if you want

[arctic notch]

Ok.

Thanks.

[jovial spire]

@full pollen He lived in the jungle temple

Not a castle

Lol

[brazen wedge]

he did?

[jovial spire]

Yeah

[full pollen]

Oh right

Forgot about that thanks

[jovial spire]

@ashen warren Needs more clairification. Recipe, hammer power, and axe power.

And what its crafted at

And putting the reason to add it

[ashen warren]

"sice theres only a pick" reason... I suppose

[arctic notch]

Astrum Areus isn't a Spider. It only has 4 legs. When it moves, or stands still, you can only ever see 4.

[jovial spire]

Hes more like a... idk

A something

[brazen wedge]

robot*

[dusty stirrup]

Aureus is a security robot B.O.X

[jovial spire]

I mean ofc hes a robot

[dusty stirrup]

[brazen wedge]

infected robot*

[jovial spire]

Aureus lore when

[brazen wedge]

evil infected robot*

[dusty stirrup]

oh right his lore is still not public

[jovial spire]

Wait you know the lore? ill bribe you so i can know early

[dusty stirrup]

[jovial spire]

In b4 draedon has something to do with it

[brazen wedge]

isnt it on printworks or something

found it

[dusty stirrup]

why would draedon not have something to do with a random robot

[jovial spire]

So thats... the 6th-8th boss draedon made/has something do do with.

[arctic notch]

Likely experiments with the Astral.

[dusty stirrup]

[arctic notch]

To see how to boost his robots' performance.

[brazen wedge]

can i reveal the lore that was posted on printworks or no?

[jovial spire]

Maybe in #calamity-mod-talk

[arctic notch]

Put it on the wiki.

[jovial spire]

But probally not

[ashen warren]

Official lore is on forum, wiki and discord

Nowhere else

[brazen wedge]

but mrrp posted in announcements on printworks

[jovial spire]

Or fab's mouth/keyboard

[ashen warren]

discord

[brazen wedge]

oh

[jovial spire]

He could be on other sites

[ashen warren]

Loremaster is terry iirc

[arctic notch]

It's not on the wiki.

I just checked.

The Gamepedia or Fandom one?

[jovial spire]

Gamepedia

[arctic notch]

Oh. Forum.

[jovial spire]

The fandom one is unofficial

[arctic notch]

Didn't check the forum.

[ashen warren]

The official one

[dusty stirrup]

just pretend fandom doesn't exist

[brazen wedge]

^

[jovial spire]

^

[ashen warren]

The doc that mrrp posted is editable so uh, not official

[dusty stirrup]

only reason it's still a thing rn is because fandom doesn't give a shit about their communities

[brazen wedge]

its the same as the forum

[ashen warren]

Time to actually check the forum page for the first time in half a year...
So it is, nevermind then.

[arctic notch]

I have screenshots of the lore.

[jovial spire]

I have copy and pastes or Goozma and Xerocs lore

[arctic notch]

Can I post them in #calamity-mod-talk ?

[ashen warren]

Doing so would serve no purpose and we're #offtopic

[tropic yoke]

Cane of Disgrace: Post-Providence Summon Weapon
Summons “Mini-Providence”. Mini-Providence targets enemies closest to the player. After defeating Polterghast, Mini-Providence will shoot out Molten Blasts when enemies are nearby.
After defeating the 3 Sentinels, Mini-Providence will rapidly shoot out Holy Spears at enemies. Holy Spear velocity scales with the player’s health.
After defeating tDoG, Mini-Providence will shoot out Miniature Holy Blasts.
After defeating Yharon, Mini-Providence will shoot out a beam at enemies.

: I’ve found that summoners have to follow a very narrow path Post-Moon Lord. I’ve also noticed Providence’s lack of a summon weapon in contrast to (almost) every other Calamity boss. I believe that adding a Providence-Tier summon weapon would be a good idea.

Re-did the profaned addon

[ashen warren]

summoner post-ml is kinda uh, pretty set atm when it comes to dealing damage, they don't really need a way to deal even more tbh

plus the way you've described it is it's either a sentry or a minion you summon, at which point it would need to take up a good few minion slots to balance out

Summoner is one of the best post provi classes iirc

Followed by rogue I suppose

[tropic yoke]

There’s 4...

[ashen warren]

summoner rn is very much super strong atm, the armour buffs make it very nice, profaned soul makes up for the ele axes cucking each other's dps and lamps is pretty good

Note: I'm talking about until scal

even on scal it's still one of the only two that's considered viable enough to run, the other being melee

So summon > melee > rogue > mage > ranged?

[arctic notch]

That's almost my list of my favorites.

[ashen warren]

Idk how strong apoth is against scal

melee > summon > mage > rogue > ranged
iirc

apoth is post scal now

post scal
Ouch

[frank stratus]

if you actually get apoth to eat scal it can take like 3% off depending on your gear

[tropic yoke]

Mage > Rogue > Melee > Summon > Ranged imo

[frank stratus]

tried it but too ineffective because i didn't want to risk a hit so yeah

[ashen warren]

yup, ssv combined with yharim's crystal for hearts is about all mage has going for it

[frank stratus]

ranged was the easiest class for me lol

[tropic yoke]

Same

Ranged is more than set

[ashen warren]

melee hits 300k dps spikes, summoner hits 250k, mage doesn't even peak 130k consistently atm iirc

[arctic notch]

I hated Vanilla Ranged.

[tropic yoke]

^

[arctic notch]

And Vanilla Summoner's start.

[tropic yoke]

Calamity + Ranged =

[frank stratus]

stormbow smh

[ashen warren]

Ranged is dumdum class

[tropic yoke]

Ono

[frank stratus]

no u

[tropic yoke]

Hmmm

[arctic notch]

Ranged is bad.

[ashen warren]

ranged is the class you go to when you give up trying

[tropic yoke]

How to improve magic...

[arctic notch]

Not enjoyable, Ranged.

[ashen warren]

dps, which ein will do with his testing tomorrow, much like ranged and rogue

[arctic notch]

I main balanced.

[tropic yoke]

Heavenly Gale gets me 500k dps against target dummies

[arctic notch]

Omniclass.

[ashen warren]

target dummies isn't scal or an actual boss

[tropic yoke]

S. Cal is about 100k

Anyways...

[ashen warren]

where the average is about 150k

[tropic yoke]

What’s the worst part of mage?

[jovial spire]

Pre HM

[ashen warren]

clone tier

[arctic notch]

Mana.

[ashen warren]

pre-hm is fine because flare, frost and water bolt exist

[tropic yoke]

Lul

[frank stratus]

oh god mage is way too inconsistant it's painful

[jovial spire]

@arctic notch mana regen pots

[arctic notch]

Still.

[tropic yoke]

Mana needs to be more abundant

[ashen warren]

mana regen pot exists

[arctic notch]

^

[jovial spire]

They regen 550 mana in 3 seconds

[frank stratus]

wait what

is it that good?

[jovial spire]

And their easy af to craft

[untold gulch]

^

[frank stratus]

blood orb gotem looool

[jovial spire]

No

[frank stratus]

lmao

[arctic notch]

Wait, do you mean potions?

[jovial spire]

Like with no blood orbs

[untold gulch]

combine with mana overloader and you get healing

[ashen warren]

Mage went from super strong to nope your way outta there frequently when I did my playthrough about 2 months ago

[tropic yoke]

You never worry about ammo or melee swings or summon slots (for the most part) but mana is never really easy to obtain without taking huge no-move breaks in the middle if fights.

[jovial spire]

Im doing a mage playthrough

[ashen warren]

when i did my playthrough for mage, the only time i really had issue was doing clone before plant, and at pbg

[jovial spire]

I used to hate it but its now my seconds faverite class

[untold gulch]

mage is consistent if you play on deathmode

[ashen warren]

Mana regen fixes that nightmare fuel

[jovial spire]

Also phantasmal fury is OP as all fuck

[ashen warren]

Though buff pots shouldn't be required

phantasmal fury does kinda get outclassed by dark spark though

[jovial spire]

It does more dps than valediction

[arctic notch]

I hate Dark Spark.

[jovial spire]

Like alot more

[arctic notch]

Dark Spark has triple gay.

[untold gulch]

dark spark is good

[jovial spire]

If you can use it well

[ashen warren]

dark spark peaks at 350k dps with death adrenaline atm on p1 dog that's very strong

[tropic yoke]

I’ll suggest an accessory that you upgrade with materials throughout the game that reduces mana usage and mana sickness severities soon.

[ashen warren]

"I hate Dark Spark." Vorbis, smite them

levels in calamity reduce mana usage

[frank stratus]

dark spark is big boi

[ashen warren]

if you add an accessory onto that, then combine it with nebula armour, mage is going to be completely broken

[tropic yoke]

Well no one is liking levels all too much. I’ve heard a lot of hate.

[jovial spire]

Idk abouy them

[arctic notch]

Proficiency sucks to level. I made a suggestion to make it easier.

[ashen warren]

i haven't really seen hate about proficiency

[jovial spire]

Its like a 10% bounus

[tropic yoke]

Wow

[untold gulch]

levels are good and balanced
why do people hate on it

[frank stratus]

that's because you aren't supposed to level proficiency lol

[ashen warren]

it sucks to grind it out, because you're not supposed to grind it out

[frank stratus]

you're supposed to just play normally

[ashen warren]

I don't understand why people don't like levels smh

[frank stratus]

the levelling just adds some more rpg to it

[ashen warren]

it's literally free stats on top of what you already had, nothing bad about that tbh

[lost agate]

Yeah, levels are meant to be gotten while you play, not all in one sitting

[arctic notch]

They take too long to grind for.

[untold gulch]

^^^

[ashen warren]

then there's your problem

[lost agate]

Dont grind them

[untold gulch]

levels are the big good

[arctic notch]

And who ever said you're not supposed to grind for it?

[ashen warren]

fabsol

[tropic yoke]

It’s so unimportant that it practically wouldn’t make a difference if it was there or not.

[ashen warren]

Don't grind levels smh

[jovial spire]

"Calamity is too hard"

"But these levels that gives very small increases and take a long time to get are too OP."

[untold gulch]

^^

[ashen warren]

it's unimportant?

ah yes these three minion slots from levelling summoner really suck

[arctic notch]

It's not OP.

[untold gulch]

levels are just freebies

[frank stratus]

the three slots are probably the best bonus

yeah basically

[heavy mural]

Just go into an area with enemies that don't go through walls

[tropic yoke]

If you make an entire leveling system besides the general difficulty progression you might as well go all out.

[ashen warren]

reduced mana cost for mage is a 100% yes

uh no?

[frank stratus]

unlimited mana time ha jk

[ashen warren]

they're literally fine as they are, they add to and enrich the gameplay without being a prominent feature that overshadows other things

[untold gulch]

why would you go all out on freebies

[ashen warren]

i don't really see the problem

[heavy mural]

@tropic yoke Betsy Upgrades, Rogue/Summoner Core Weapons when?

[tropic yoke]

‘O-O

[heavy mural]

[tropic yoke]

I got grounded for having a C in school and oversleeping.

[frank stratus]

imagine old one's army in calamity smh

rip

[heavy mural]

Oof

Understandable

[frank stratus]

damn i'm gonna go sleep now since exams and stuff cya

[tropic yoke]

I will make a point to use as little of my school knowledge when I’m a big year old.

[heavy mural]

Honestly though

I've a perfect meme for that

[tropic yoke]

Uh oh

Pm, don’t get banned

[lost agate]

[tropic yoke]

[frail mantle]

[lost agate]

In all seriousness dont go offtopic

[tropic yoke]

I’ll go off to dream land

G’Night! 👋 💤

[dusty stirrup]

guys I have a suggestion, we should make each level give you a new acc slot

[arctic notch]

Wat.

[dusty stirrup]

This will be a feature in the next update

[frank stratus]

oh my god

let's do the math

[jovial spire]

22

[dusty stirrup]

22 acc slots

[frank stratus]

7 + 15 * 2 + 1 + 6 =

[frail mantle]

combine that with Antisocial

[frank stratus]

WHAT THE SHIT

[lost agate]

And now slap anti social... OH GOD

[jovial spire]

So 5 more

[frank stratus]

did i calculate wrong...

wait vanity slots included or nah?

[dusty stirrup]

Equip all the accs

[arctic notch]

15 more.

[frank stratus]

i'll do 7 * 2 + 15 + 1 + 6

[jovial spire]

I... what would you put in those

[frank stratus]

36 accessory slots with cheatsheet, antisocial, and wing slot bois

[frail mantle]

fair and balanced

[sleek wadi]

Just get Fargo souls at that point tbh

[frank stratus]

hol up

use hero's mod's invsee feature and force 36 souls of eternities into your accessory slots

[brave warren]

for all classes too

[jovial spire]

With all menecing that would be + 144% damage increase

[frank stratus]

oh my god

[jovial spire]

Or +92% crit

Or 144 defence and 36% DR

[frank stratus]

we need that for like a single update so i can actually do it

imagine overflowing hp

[jovial spire]

Also +144% melee speed

[sleek wadi]

Of which 114% you can't use

[arctic notch]

OP+ Recipes.

Appachii's Classes.

[devout seal]

hey, @hollow shell Sorry for the ping, but did my suggestion about renaming abyss gravel get sent in

[low hedge]

ye

[tulip fulcrum]

What rename you gave for the abyss gravel @devout seal?

Sorryforping,justcurious

[devout seal]

Vanadite

[tulip fulcrum]

Oh cool

[pliant bone]

I wonder what will they put in those 36 accessories slot

[frail mantle]

Soul of eternity

[sleek wadi]

Literally everything, and a shackle.

[tropic yoke]

Cool to know everyone was nice and productive in my absence.

[ashen warren]

People have realized that suggestions are worthless

[tropic yoke]

Oof

[ashen warren]

153 Stars and not sent to dev server

you feel

[tropic yoke]

Tbf not even any of my 150+ starred suggestions will probably make it in.

Ono nam

[ashen warren]

ono

[tropic yoke]

Gtg 2 school -.-

Cya

Hope everyone does many a gud suggestion!!!

[quiet abyss]

See ya 👋

[frail mantle]

@placid island the Hallow already has a connection to Providence, her being holy and all that. I don’t think it’s necessary to create a completely new biome because the Hallow doesn’t have the same color scheme as Providence.

[ashen warren]

I agree

[frail mantle]

also, it’d be an absolute pain to code

[ashen warren]

Delete hallo

Wait what's the corruption alt?
crimson?

[quiet abyss]

Eeyup

[ashen warren]

Astral

[quiet abyss]

Astral ain't even an alt

[ashen warren]

corruption alt
Astral is its own thing

[quiet abyss]

Not even to meteor

[ashen warren]

👀

[quiet abyss]

Meteor is minibiome, Astral is full biome

[tropic yoke]

Big boy biome

Forgot aboot my phone

[eager palm]

Devs are already busy enough with adding content to the Astral biome as it is, idk if a new biome is a good idea for now

[ashen warren]

I mean, coding a new biome just for provi isn't really gonna end up well

[tropic yoke]

If I could, I’d make the dungeon open and not shitty 8-block wide tunnels so bosses could be fought in it.

[frail mantle]

Also, would Unholy essence only drop from these enemies? Because if they stopped dropping from hallow enemies most of the post-DoG bosses would be impossible to fight

[tropic yoke]

Id probably have to make the code myself and post it along with the suggestion if I wanted it to get in, though.

Also, don’t texture mod resprites exist? That could work for PseuDoughcode’s idea.

[frail mantle]

If you mean texture packs then yes, they exist

[tropic yoke]

The hallow is just some enemies, tiles, and projectiles when you think about it.

Calamity could probably pull off a hallow biome resprite.

(Probably)

[ashen warren]

Might wanna bring that up in the calamity texture pack server

[frail mantle]

^

[tropic yoke]

Well, for the main mod’s sake, too.

I’ll do that though.

[ashen warren]

However I like the hallow colors so eh

[frail mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

Remember that provi doesn't really fit hell either

Sure, it's closer but she's a fusion of the two

[frail mantle]

At least not design wise

[ashen warren]

Not the two put together

[frail mantle]

Yea

she doesn’t look like some amalgamation of Pearlstone and Hellstone

[worthy fiber]

@foggy karma There's already the Banner Bonanza mod for that

[placid island]

the new biome doesn't have to be FOR providence, it just needs to make sense to summon providence there.

but yeah i can understand it taking ages to code

[keen nebula]

Imagine needing a nymph banner for the underground banner collection

[faint rivet]

Imagine caring for banners

[worthy fiber]

Y'gotta put them somewhere, my dude

As nice as the Banner Bonanza mod is though, it doesn't use OOA banners

[ashen warren]

They don't give buffs.

[worthy fiber]

I'm aware of that

But they're still obtained similarly to other enemy banners

[sleek wigeon]

Statues are the only thing worth collecting

[worthy fiber]

But you have to build for that

[sleek wigeon]

because you can just have a statue hallways in your homes

[tropic yoke]

But them copper coins

[placid island]

ooof got pinged

[molten hearth]

Sorry

[placid island]

it's okay

that sounds pretty good

[molten hearth]

Thanks

[keen nebula]

I always have a battle arena with a dugout floor 3 blocks high two blocks below the surface

Great place to farm pirates and martians

I put banners there

[tropic yoke]

Ok

Im thinking of a little shrine you have to summon providence and the guardians at.

[lost agate]

Why?

[keen nebula]

Surely if Providence was a god there'd be some vestigial shrine left by her followers

[tropic yoke]

It’d fit with the whole religion aspect, and it would feel more... Elaborate

(?)

[keen nebula]

You know

[lost agate]

But its impractical

[keen nebula]

A place where they sacrifice all the virgins

[lost agate]

Imagine that thing not spawning

[tropic yoke]

Oh

[lost agate]

Where do you spawn her if that happens?

[tropic yoke]

Either make it craftable, or have have it always generate, like rhe dungeon or underworld or calamity biomes

[keen nebula]

Build your own shrine?

[lost agate]

If you dont get those blocks nowhere else how do you do that?

[tropic yoke]

?

[lost agate]

Oh it isnt a building

Just like the golem altar i guess

[tropic yoke]

Like a mini-biome

Maybe a few bricks under the shrine

[lost agate]

That limits the hallow/hell aspect tho

[tropic yoke]

?

Ohh

Hmmm

[lost agate]

Idk, i see it as kinda unnecesary and will cause more problem than its worth

[tropic yoke]

I just thought it’d be cool.

[lost agate]

Welp

[sleek wigeon]

the road to hell is built on "i just thought it'd be cool"

[lost agate]

That everfrost or whatever biome from tremor can be considered the same thing

[ruby cobalt]

Glacier.

[lost agate]

That

[fossil torrent]

@dusty stirrup Made the buff and debuff sprites. Not my finest work

more contrast on the smoke

[jovial spire]

Wait your tagging a dev

Is it being added

[fossil torrent]

yeah Phup asked me to do the buff sprites and they will code it

[worthy fiber]

Oh nice

[jovial spire]

Hell yeah

[fossil torrent]

I think they were serious

[worthy fiber]

[fossil torrent]

more smoke contrast

[fervent zealot]

. . candles don't really give off a lot of smoke.

should probably just get rid of the smoke tbh

[jovial spire]

Anyways thanks for helping with it @fossil torrent

[fossil torrent]

The smoke is supposed to represent it being a scented candle, but it's probably bad yeah

less of it

[jovial spire]

Looks good

[fossil torrent]

nah, the tranquility one is pretty bad

Chaos is almost decent but not really

[jovial spire]

Thanks alot for the sprites

[fossil torrent]

no problem dude, great training

[jovial spire]

You definitly should consider trying to sprite more stuff

[fossil torrent]

I will

[jovial spire]

If you enjoy it

[tropic yoke]

Oh thank god fabsol made summoner/other class combos great again

It’s funny because...
Slag Staff: Brimstone Elemental Drop/ Summon Item
Summons Slag Elementals. Slag Elementals fire volleys of brimstone hellblasts and abyssal souls at nearby enemies.

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren Be more specific? Do you mean every weapon type?

Not EVERY weapon type. Most ore weapons don't usually count.

That, or there would be skills specific to only Melees, Rangers, Mages, Summoners, and Rogues.

[tropic yoke]

Like a kind of proficiency?

[sleek wadi]

What would these skills be, why should they be a thing, what makes them different from the proficiency mechanic?

[ashen warren]

@tropic yoke, pretty much.

[tropic yoke]

[fervent zealot]

why not tie it to proficiency tbh

[fossil torrent]

Yeah, every 5 or so levels you get a new "skill"

[tropic yoke]

Do you mean... Non-stat changes

[fossil torrent]

calamity's just turning into an rpg

[ashen warren]

They get less powerful if you use a skill that doesn't match up with your proficiency. For example, using a Ranger skill while having a high Melee proficiency.

[tropic yoke]

Like swords and staves shooting more projectiles or something?

[ashen warren]

Staves are more likely. Swords are less likely

[tropic yoke]

Fargo enchantments

Lmao

[ashen warren]

So... What do y'all think?

[round falcon]

I have very neutral feelings towards your suggestion.

[runic mesa]

is it in the style of golden sun?

[ashen warren]

Golden eye

Your targets are weak

A early HM accessory that drops from enemies in the underground crimson. Any bullets fired have a chance to inflict ichor, ichor bullets have an increased velocity.

Cursed eye

Your enemies will burn

An early hardmode accessory that drops from enemies in the underground corruption. Any bullets fired will inflict cursed flames, cursed bullets will split into two on shot, but deal half of their original damage.

How dis?

@ashen warren Why's it named that?

[fossil torrent]

Some meme.

No meme suggestions, please.

[ashen warren]

Alright, alright

[eager palm]

No meme suggestions, delete it or be warned.

@ashen warren

[tropic yoke]

Oof

[ashen warren]

I see the need to stab NPCs, but ohyeahyeah is wack name

[tropic yoke]

TBF an accessory that kills NPCs would be kinda nice if you want to change your NPC’s names.

But a lottle less memey

[fossil torrent]

But not.. all.. of them maybe

[tropic yoke]

Plague Swarm: PBG Drop
Summons 3 Plague Clouds that surround the player. Plague Clouds will release 2-3 Plague Wasps that slowly home in on enemies. Plague Wasps inflict ’The Plague’.

[ashen warren]

Make psycho knife kill npcs

[frail mantle]

"the baptizer"

[ashen warren]

Or get NPCs to spawn without making houses because it's boring

[tropic yoke]

Universal voodoo doll

Cosmic?

[ashen warren]

hmmmmmm

[ruby cobalt]

He deleted it?

[fossil torrent]

yup

[ruby cobalt]

Oh, that's a fucking shame, have a warn anyways.

[frail mantle]

what was it?

[tropic yoke]

Nice new pfp @fossil torrent

[fossil torrent]

lol, drh style

[ashen warren]

Ohyeahyeah as a name for an item

Ick

[fossil torrent]

Nice? aww thanks, it's so bad tho

[tropic yoke]

They idea is good tho

Fiery J

Hehe

[ashen warren]

Maybe combine a guide and clothier one with some cosmilite tier shit

Universal Voodoo Doll does seem like a nice name

[fossil torrent]

Stardust, maybe

[ashen warren]

Maybe have it drop from cosmic elemental

[fossil torrent]

Cosmilite seems a bit too late

[ashen warren]

True

Eidolonic sacrifice

[tropic yoke]

Eidolon???

[ashen warren]

Applease them...

[tropic yoke]

[ashen warren]

Yeah, same tier as LC

[fossil torrent]

was gonna say epic sprite time but seems like nightmare's on it

[tropic yoke]

I got grounded fir having a C, remember?

[ashen warren]

Wheeze

[tropic yoke]

Might get a laptop in march though.

[fossil torrent]

Wait you actually got grounded for having a C?

[tropic yoke]

Ye

[fossil torrent]

Wtf

[ashen warren]

No comment

[tropic yoke]

Hold on...

[ashen warren]

Maybe you should be able to upgrade your voodoo dolls.

Have a hardmode and post-mood lord one which all are connected in crafting

The question is, what would the post-moon lord one do?

Time to kill everyone

Anywas

Is this good?

I have an idea which would be pretty ridiculous but also fun

Golden eye

Your targets are weak

A early HM accessory that drops from enemies in the underground crimson. Any bullets fired have a chance to inflict ichor, ichor bullets have an increased velocity.

Cursed eye

Your enemies will burn

An early hardmode accessory that drops from enemies in the underground corruption. Any bullets fired will inflict cursed flames, cursed bullets will split into two on shot, but deal half of their original damage.

I'll spice it up later

[tropic yoke]

Plague Swarm: PBG Drop
Summons 3 Plague Clouds that surround the player. Plague Clouds will release 2-3 Plague Wasps that slowly home in on enemies. Plague Wasps inflict ’The Plague’.

Since this got glazed over...

[ashen warren]

The universal voodoo doll could drop anything that you have previously obtained in the game upon killing an NPC

Take note, previously

Nightmare, that looks like the hyphae rod but better

[frail mantle]

or the universal voodoo doll could make all npcs always drop the items they only had a chance to drop before

[ashen warren]

Eh that seems more useless

Most of the drops are quite low tier or vanity items

[tropic yoke]

Plague doesn’t have a summon weapon, nor does Brimstone

[ashen warren]

Plaguebringer is a pretty useless boss imo

[tropic yoke]

Yeah...

The new item sprites tho

[lost agate]

Plaguebringer isnt useless

Its like duke, really optional but nice rewards

[ashen warren]

For its difficulty compared to when you fight it and its drops, it kind of is

Duke drops better items than it and is also easier

Optional but not really worth it

[lost agate]

Uh, thats opinions

[ashen warren]

Yeah I guess

[lost agate]

Duke is harder for me

Like REALLY harder

[tropic yoke]

Well, consistency and Calamity’s reputation as a content mod points towards summon items.

Rev+ Duke isn’t worth it.

PBG also drops the bloom stone, a material in the heart of the goddamned elements, but doesn’t have a summon item.

[ashen warren]

PBG is also the bringer of a useless gimmick debuff

[lost agate]

Malevolence is nice

[ashen warren]

Malachite, Malevolence, and the bloomstone are the only useful items imo

[lost agate]

Malevolent pike is good, but risky

[ashen warren]

Also plague summon weapon really really really original

[tropic yoke]

Mine is?

I thought of a lot of things while I made it and took little snippets.

Like thorium butterflies being summoned in 3s

I’ll sprite it on Saturday and then post

[ashen warren]

I dunno

[lost agate]

@ashen warren add a reason (for consistency sake) and you get a star

[ashen warren]

Got it, thanks

[lost agate]

Good

[ashen warren]

Well. After mastering that weapon and gaining its skill, you can carry it over to your other weapons...

[tropic yoke]

Oh god... Defiled Rune Yharon.

[visual sorrel]

defiled deathmode yharon

[ashen warren]

DAD copper shortsword challenge with Scal

[untold gulch]

you won't even last one minute

[tropic yoke]

You thonk?

[keen nebula]

Is defiled yharon even possible??

[ashen warren]

It's a piece of cake with endgame equipment

And if I'm saying it, it's true

defiled death yharon is possible yes, pinkie has nohit him already iirc

[delicate raft]

Before or after it got changed?

[jovial spire]

The awnser is probally yes

[tropic yoke]

Thanks teacher!

Should I 🅱inna 🅱ost?

[ashen warren]

after obviously

why would he nohit defiled yharon before when there was no incentive to?

[tropic yoke]

Gonna 🅱ost

[sleek wigeon]

@ashen warren golden eye and cursed eye are actual garbage

Like unuseable bad

Why wouldnt you just use ichor bullets/ ichor flask/ golden shower every 10 seconds?

[keen nebula]

It summons clouds that spawn bees?

I thought it would be like a Hornet Staff upgrade but instead of stingers it'd be homing plague rockets

[tropic yoke]

Wow no stars?
;-;

UwU

[frail mantle]

no one cares about summoner

except me of course

[tropic yoke]

^n^

[ashen warren]

that's why my patron item is a summoner one, because at the time summoner needed the extra help around that point

[tropic yoke]

Meh, everyone’s probably just at school or work like me.

[ashen warren]

Oh, one last thing about my suggestion... It's possible to equip and unequip the techniques at any time. They can also be activated at any time by the player.

Some techniques use up Mana or even health, however... as well as have a cooldown time.

[sleek wigeon]

That technique suggestion is dumb, would take way too long to implement, nearly impossible to code, is overly vague and has no reason to exist

[ashen warren]

Hmm.... You've got a point, tbh...

How about the techniques go to not the weapons, but to the classes?

I mean, there'll only be a few, just to save time.

[tropic yoke]

Sounds like spells from KRPG

[ashen warren]

KRPG?

Wuzzat?

[runic mesa]

im at a friends house

[tropic yoke]

Krpg is a level mod with level-based items, passive, and activated abilities.

[ashen warren]

Oh.

[agile cloud]

Krpg has broke balancing tho

[ashen warren]

I wish they fix the balancing...

[agile cloud]

Just use leveled

[fossil torrent]

Sounds good, fair and straight-forward.

[rugged marten]

What do checks mean on suggestions

[radiant meadow]

check the pins

the reactions legend is in there

[tiny rivet]

hate to quickly take this off topic but im doing defiled death mode rn and i saw someone talk about defiled death yharon so i’ll let you know if it is

[rugged marten]

Ok, thx

[vestal elbow]

[sleek wigeon]

@cyan lagoon .... why?

Why should change be added?

Souls of light and night arent exactly difficult to get, so i dont see the point in making them arbitrarily harder to get?

[bitter topaz]

i get anti-cheese, but seriously?

both souls are just a pain in the ass to get, and serve to gate little more than a bunch of early to mid hardmode weapons.

i get that zerg potions exist, but they're equally as effective, and require the same amount of effort, as king slime spam so removing one makes literally no sense

[runic mesa]

^

[cyan lagoon]

...because they're actually harder to get?

Slime crowns can be bought and you can make profit off that alone especially with defiled, zergs can't without a qol mod cough alchemistnpc

[bitter topaz]

did you forget blood orbs exist?

[cyan lagoon]

doesn't really matter

blood orbs are hard enough to get, sure it should be higher (like fabs vodka high) but obviously that won't happen

[vestal elbow]

nerf herb bags in the main planetoid too while you're at it

[bitter topaz]

my main problem with it is "grinding is really boring, if you don't need to force it, don't."

and "if it exists already, don't make it more annoying unless balance is a major problem"

[cyan lagoon]

I see what you mean but zerging is a far more dangerous alternative even in pre-mech hardmode compared to just spawning king slime

tanking it and dragging out the slime spawns as long as possible

[vestal elbow]

meh
if people wanna cheese one of the most monotonous parts of the game then I say let them do it
even if you do fix it QoL and cheat mods still exist so you accomplish nothing for people who are dedicated to cheese
and I didn't even think about that until now so leave it for people who are moderately more clever than me as well

[bitter topaz]

zerg isn't much more dangerous, you just build a box and use literally any weapon that doesn't require line-of-sight and/or a yoyo

[golden sonnet]

also king slime only spawns slimes when he takes damage

I'm pretty sure

[bitter topaz]

^
i get your point as well, by all means make it less effective if need-be as a counter balance compared to zerging, it's just removing it completely seems a tad too far

[cyan lagoon]

maybe that would be a better alternative

Dramatically would probably be a 70%-ish? drop

[bitter topaz]

directly half imo

so 9/50

you'd get ~20 souls per fight if you do it right, which is the same amount you'd net if you zerged for the ~45 seconds (at max) it takes to grind out KS to the max/ most effectively

iirc he can't spawn more than 100 slimes per fight, which is what i based the ~20 souls average on

and the zerg average should be (35*(9/25) = 13 (rounded), per 35 enemies killed

bringing it up to 78 souls a minute

[lavish lily]

Just

Why do you even care about that?

[bitter topaz]

balance

[lavish lily]

There's a such thing as too much balance you know

[bitter topaz]

and also math is fun, having an excuse to do it is always good

[lavish lily]

Yeah

[bitter topaz]

cob's point is mainly "low risk = bad if it's more effective than a higher risk method" which i can fully understand and agree with

removing the low risk method isn't so good, and nerfing it instead is much better

[keen nebula]

Because soul farming is a character building experience

And nobody should cheese it with King Slime spawners

[bitter topaz]

cob is a dev, he could just implement it as-is if he wanted to

[hollow shell]

Thats not how it works

[vestal elbow]

character building experience the first time
every other time you probably just go AFK

[lavish lily]

Or buy the stuff using another mod

[vestal elbow]

Alchemist

[keen nebula]

You know what I remember doing in Terraria 1.1.2 to get souls? We just placed 50 meteorite and shot Meteor Heads for souls.

Guess what Relogic did

[vestal elbow]

then that got fixed™

not gonna stop people from cheesing

[lavish lily]

That's not what they were aiming to fix

[bitter topaz]

i thought cob just put them in #suggestions-voting as a courtesy and for feedback? or is there a seperate vetting process that goes on in the dev server that's independant of community feedback on dev-made suggestions?

[lavish lily]

They wanted to prevent meteor heads from dropping biome keys

[lost agate]

not all devs can slap in code

[lavish lily]

They need approval from the others

Otherwise the mod ends up being a mess

[hollow shell]

Well, putting it in a suggestion that gets delivered has more permanence than just suggesting it in the dev server one-off

[lost agate]

some are spriters, some are indeed coders, but some others are just head tester or stuff like that

[hollow shell]

Only Fab and a very select few can access/edit the mod's code directly

[lost agate]

like 3 or 4 people iirc

[hollow shell]

cuz those people actually
know how to code

[lost agate]

mhm

[bitter topaz]

i've heard that before, but it was only ever as a one-off from someone random a long while back, so i obviously questioned the validity of it nor really gave it a thought after a while.
But if that's how it works, fair enough then.

[vestal elbow]

already suggested in a way

[cyan lagoon]

You can live near it @ashen warren but not in it right now

I'd be down for more places to live in

[fervent zealot]

same

[runic mesa]

i want to live in the hellscape of layer 4 abyss

so i support this

(i take it as a challenge to build a base in each biome)

[dusty stirrup]

haha candles @jovial spire @fossil torrent

[jovial spire]

Hell fuckin yes

[sleek wigeon]

OwO

[dusty stirrup]

They'll most likely be in the next update

I just finished them

[jovial spire]

@dusty stirrup seriously thanks sooooo much

[vestal elbow]

[jovial spire]

Mean alot to us

[dusty stirrup]

[sleek wigeon]

Zerg candles seem like suicide ngl

[vestal elbow]

put them in your base

[jovial spire]

It dosnt increase spawnrates as much as zerg

[dusty stirrup]

they're half as powerful as the potion variants

good candles

[sleek wigeon]

Wait, that means they stack?

[jovial spire]

So you cant just make nothing spawn everywhere

Nope

[sleek wigeon]

since its not the same buff?

[dusty stirrup]

nah I made sure they don't stack

[jovial spire]

Wait

Oh good

[vestal elbow]

stack with the pots

[frank stratus]

time to troll my friends

[jovial spire]

[dusty stirrup]

if Zerg is activated, chaos candle effect doesn't activate

same for tranquility candle with Zen

[frank stratus]

just put a chaos candle inside one of the houses and be like "hey look this is a nice candle for a light source" and then just run

[dusty stirrup]

put it in your friend's base

[frank stratus]

[sleek wigeon]

Npcs would probably lower the spawn rate too much for it to do anything if its where all the npcs are

[frank stratus]

they'll have no idea that a candle is causing their misery lmfao

o wait zerg doesn't bypass the npc thingy right?

[dusty stirrup]

technically it does

[jovial spire]

Yeah

[dusty stirrup]

it's just npc spawn reducing is pretty stronk

[frank stratus]

oh

[jovial spire]

But the spawn are still lower than usual

Like brim said

Anyways gonna go work on that progression guide im making

Thanks brim

[dusty stirrup]

aye np

[alpine garnet]

I've wanted this for a long time, hypeeeeee

[jovial spire]

Yeah me too

[keen nebula]

They'll see the buff icon and figure it out real soon

Just like how water candles have a debuff that let you home in on them so you can remove them

[dusty stirrup]

just hope they don't have any kind of attention span

[runic mesa]

my worst nightmare

[radiant meadow]

nice

[runic mesa]

i like SSSDelta's idea

[keen nebula]

They made a shroomite visage but no summoner helmets for cobalt through hallowed??

[runic mesa]

there are comparable sets of summoner armors as you go thru hardmode, it would seem like summoner overkill

[sleek wadi]

Why are people insistent on making Souls of Night/Light harder to farm?

[radiant meadow]

idk

[jovial spire]

same here why would they want it harder

[ashen warren]

zerg exists to reduce grind
nerfs zerg
hahaues

[jovial spire]

Yeah pretty much the reason zerg pots are a thing

[ashen warren]

souls of night/light are ass to farm as is, making it harder is simply going to make people look to another mod that doesn't make things harder

[jovial spire]

^ i know that for a fact

Or people are just gonna cheatsheet them in

[ashen warren]

if that kinda change got implemented, I 100% would be looking to another mod that sells souls of light/night for every playthrough, grinding is boring, zerg exists to reduce that boredom. When you make grinding boring again even with elements to make it less boring, that's where my interest is lost.

[sleek wadi]

Doing the King Slime method also means you can't get ichor/cursed flames/RoDs in the same grinding session, which I think is something of a self-balance.

[ashen warren]

Hm

[devout seal]

oh hey, my suggestion hit 50

but 65 is needed

[tropic yoke]

rippo

51

oWo

[ashen warren]

An in game wiki.

[brazen wedge]

we dont need one

[ashen warren]

Look in suggestions mate.

[sleek wigeon]

Would encourage too much reliance on wiki and would actually be straight up impossible to code

[ashen warren]

ngl I really hate that suggestion

Ingame wiki big nono

[brazen wedge]

i know but we dont need one

[ashen warren]

Really though, adding a few more lines to the guide sounds more like it.

[brazen wedge]

ye

thats better than an in-game wiki

[ashen warren]

Like 'Adrenaline gives boosts if you don't get it'.

Just to work with the mechanics.

How about a crag-related post ML miniboss to fight that gives a valuable source of mana/health like Astrum Aureus, so people have incentive to head there.

[tropic yoke]

Brimmy Bloodstones, my guy

But that Brimrose.

[dusty stirrup]

b-bwimmy

[terse sundial]

bwimbo

[bold spruce]

Brimmy would be a recommended boss to farm for Bloodstone, right? Since she drops around 20, right?

[terse sundial]

wrong chat to do this in

[ashen warren]

Ravager is best

wrong chat
We're discussing a suggestion that timerfun was thinking of

[tropic yoke]

I'm honestly perplexed by how Brimstone Lady keeps getting new pfps.

I have 1 picture ;-;

[ashen warren]

Nono, I recognize bloodstone and such, but only one of the three bosses that drop large amounts of bloodstone spawn there, while the enemies dropping it are like tryna zerg enough phantoplasm out of the underground caverns, its simply better to just farm calamitas/ravager.

German keyboards are the worst

[sleek wadi]

No, they're the wurst

[tropic yoke]

x'd

I'm done

[ashen warren]

[tropic yoke]

[ashen warren]

How about making the other two spawnable in hell and buff their bloodstone when in the Brimstone crags

Allowing you to reuse the BE arena or something.

I really just wish the crags were more touched upon.

[dusty stirrup]

I have like 140 brimmy pictures so

[terse sundial]

god

[brazen wedge]

you need more

[dusty stirrup]

Of course

[ashen warren]

Weird that people would draw that many pictures of suggestive entities.

[lunar berry]

well

[bold spruce]

If it's not them, it's either Doggo, Yharon, Yharim or Calamitas

[lunar berry]

as much as that would be cool

doing commands isn’t really terrarias thing

[ashen warren]

What?

[radiant meadow]

I think there is a mod that lookups up stuff on wikis using the steam browser or something iirc

[lunar berry]

terraria has no commands, it’s more of an adventure with story

[ashen warren]

Ah, the wiki suggestion

[radiant meadow]

luiafk adds some commands

[ashen warren]

Just add more guide-lines concerning the mechanics

[radiant meadow]

but a wiki command sounds something a separate mod would do

not Calamity

[brazen wedge]

the banners dont work for balance purposes @harsh latch

[harsh latch]

I'm aware of that. But I'm also aware of the event's repetitive nature

[civic rampart]

I would only use banners postml, preboss and for events

[sudden ether]

@runic mesa what if mythril armor got back its ability to emit light

[polar dock]

What do you guys think of my suggestion?

[civic rampart]

Maybe?

[brazen wedge]

i like it

[proven tide]

'A new class' ohhh no

[brazen wedge]

ye but no new clas

class

[ashen warren]

Battlerods mod already exists

[civic rampart]

Doesn't a mod adds the rods?

[sleek wadi]

Rather just focus on making Rogue interesting than both adding a new class AND expanding summoner all at the same time

Besides, Desert Scourge drops are already useful for easy Cell Phone

[brazen wedge]

maybe a rouge weapon you can fish up?

[civic rampart]

Dungeon rogue weapon from fishing?

[brazen wedge]

nah

like a hallow one

sort of like crystal serpent

or maybe a corruption/crimson variant

[civic rampart]

Corruption has the knife ald

That no one uses

[ashen warren]

Corruption has toxikarp

Serpent is hallow

Bladetongue is crimson

That's it

[civic rampart]

I mean from mobs

[brazen wedge]

but is there anything fished up in the crimson?

[civic rampart]

Like ichor spear

Blade tongue?

[ashen warren]

That's what it's called

Bladetongue

[brazen wedge]

sharp tongue

[civic rampart]

Maybe the unicorn drops a rogue weapon?

[ashen warren]

Hell doesn't have any rogue weapons

Crag doesn't count

[brazen wedge]

Fiery something

[civic rampart]

Throws lava bucket

[brazen wedge]

maybe something from bone serpents or lava bats?

[ashen warren]

Looking forward to a night's boomerang or whatever
Summoner should have one too tbh

[brazen wedge]

summon a bone serpent or something

[ashen warren]

Ew no

[civic rampart]

Rogue weap that throws bone serpants

[ashen warren]

More worm summons never

[brazen wedge]

rouge weapon that throws bone serpent bones

[tropic yoke]

Slag Staff: Brimstone Elemental Drop/ Summon Item
Summons Slag Elementals. Slag Elementals fire volleys of brimstone hellblasts and abyssal souls at nearby enemies.

: Similarly to PBG, the Brimstone Elemental is one of the few bosses without a summon weapon. This suggestion is meant to fill that gap.

Ehhh?

[ashen warren]

Smh not brimling staff

[brazen wedge]

brimling is pet

[tropic yoke]

Brimling is a pet

Damn

[ashen warren]

My nitro ran out literally right now

[civic rampart]

Equipping brimling pet buffs it

[tropic yoke]

Fuck it, Brimling

[brazen wedge]

but then you get confused on which is summon

[tropic yoke]

Sure...

[radiant meadow]

I mean there is a hornet staff and a hornet pet

[tropic yoke]

Slag staff: Weapon, normal mode drop.
Charred Relic: Pet item, in revengeance.

I don't like the brimling pet.

It's so massive

Is also saves me a sprite

[ashen warren]

I don't like the brimling pet
Die

[tropic yoke]

I just don't like pets because I'm a builder.

[frank stratus]

:v

but but

bear

[tropic yoke]

I'm pretty sure everyone has disabled their pet at some point because it gets in the way.

[brazen wedge]

i like pet

[frank stratus]

how could you ever disable this >:V

[brazen wedge]

never disabled

[ashen warren]

I only disable my light pet if I'm reaching buff limit

[formal iron]

Item to make pets smaller when

[brazen wedge]

except on accident

[ashen warren]

Never brimling or bear

[tropic yoke]

O.O

[frank stratus]

yeah lmao

[tropic yoke]

Oh wait lmao

Anyways, Brimling staff.

Not revengeance, and a summon weapon

Should I suggest it?

[ashen warren]

If brimling then yes
If slag then perish

[brazen wedge]

[formal iron]

The answer is yes

[runic mesa]

@sudden ether sorry for the late response, and i kinda forgot that was a thing. i may add an addendum to my original armor buff post for that.

[tropic yoke]

There

[fossil torrent]

Heyy our candles are prob in next update

hype

Makes me really happy, I’m gonna have a sprite in game

[gusty geode]

Ok, I'm starting to wonder if they're doing the check anymore
There's a suggestion from a couple days ago with over double the required star count and no check

Also only 3 stars left before my Beam Sword buff makes it

[radiant meadow]

Checks exist still

There just haven't been any devs who were able to send them yet

[low hedge]

i am unable to can

[jovial spire]

Server suggestion: change #general-talk to #shit_posting

Its already its used for

[low hedge]

the posting shut down crabrave

[jovial spire]

Also, since my suggestion got in there wont be another one going in the game for 15 years, so dont bother till then

I mean thats about the frequance stuff gets in

[fossil torrent]

True

[gritty crow]

I can’t tell if my suggestion is bad or if it just hasn’t been starred yet

[marsh gust]

afaik interludes arent going to be added into the game >.>

[tepid root]

Yeah, they're just there

[gritty crow]

Yeah okay I can get rid of that part

[frail mantle]

Would it be a good idea if you could upgrade the Last Prism into Yharim’s Crystal using Yharon Soul Fragments, except it takes, like, 100 fragments to make up for how strong the Crystal is?

[fossil torrent]

or just, leave it as a legendary

imo it should be really hard to get

[frail mantle]

@sudden ether i think that has been suggested before

[untold gulch]

slime mount taking no fall damage
que

[dense needle]

Wat

It does tho

[faint rivet]

Wait

[untold gulch]

i'm 110% sure it doesnt

[sudden ether]

the slime mount was preventing fall damage for me in a calamity-thorium playthrough I was doing earlier

i thought it was calamity doing i

t

[brazen wedge]

it doesnt have fall dmg for me

[faint rivet]

Pretty sure it takes heavily reduces fall damage

[frail mantle]

Ye

[sudden ether]

I can't find it in #changelogs or /vanilla_changes on the wiki though

[untold gulch]

you guys are lucky
meanwhile i'm here dying everytime i don't get off my slime before reaching hell

[dense needle]

Smh make a pool

[untold gulch]

smh hell no

[frail mantle]

pool in hell

[untold gulch]

^

[wicked swift]

Also: HELL no?

[untold gulch]

yes

not intended

[sudden ether]

you make a little landing pad just over hell

then walk out when you hit the bottom

[wicked swift]

more like a little landing POND

[sudden ether]

hm "Minions are changed to automatically adjust their damage whenever the player's equipment is changed, no longer needing to be re-summoned in order to take effect."

im adding that

[untold gulch]

ooo

i found an idea

bubble blocks

[faint rivet]

Smh just commit brain and unmount

[untold gulch]

smh i'd rather commit die

[faint rivet]

Ono

[dense needle]

Slime blocks

[untold gulch]

oh yeah shit i have lava waders

[quiet abyss]

@sudden ether Sir, the summon change has already been implemented

Unless ya talking about making ya separate mod in ya suggestion also revert that change

[sudden ether]

I meant for the separate QoL mod

[quiet abyss]

Then perhaps might wanna edit ya message and add it into the balance change.
Just slapping “edit: (message)” there looks kinda messy

And it’s a lil confusing

[frail mantle]

Like i said, a separate QoL mod has been suggested before

[ashen warren]

I don't get it

are these supposed to be alts to the cores?

[earnest raptor]

No.

You mines a ores, and makes souls and essences from it.

[ashen warren]

o

That's actually a pretty cool suggestion ngl

[frail mantle]

I don’t really see why you would need this, as spending about 5 mins in their respective biomes will easily grant you a bunch of essence or souls

terraria is meant to be sorta farming-heavy

[placid island]

yee

[earnest raptor]

I didn't like, was Hardmode stage really fast switches to "grind enemies to get all things".

[gritty crow]

Wait why didn’t I get a star on my suggestion?

[placid island]

dunno... how does that thing work? maybe a mod has to approve then u can

[ashen warren]

Cooldudes just star ones that don't break rules

No approval system

[gritty crow]

Right... I’m not sure what rule I broke is the thing, I didn’t see anything I broke in the pins

[earnest raptor]

Just wait.

[placid island]

ye

that seems to be all

[earnest raptor]

If you didn't get star in days or two, you writes something weird.

[gritty crow]

your suggestion came after mine and got one though

[frail mantle]

Well, one thing might be that i can’t really see why you would want your suggestion in the game

[gritty crow]

Whoa shots fired

Just fits with the lore and story of calamity

[earnest raptor]

nobody wants lore, all needs a murdering, murdering, MURDERING

[frail mantle]

@quaint trellis could you please explain why you would like this change?

[quiet abyss]

But why?

[frail mantle]

ninja’d

[quiet abyss]

This change seem kinda unnecessary

[quaint trellis]

Yeah thinking about it makes no sense...

[arctic wren]

... but they're in the bottom of the ocean

why would they even be able to notice a bloodmoon

[civic rampart]

The whole ocean turns red during blood moons

[arctic wren]

... I guess 🤔

[keen nebula]

Night's Boomerang??

[ashen warren]

It's not confirmed but I hope!

[keen oxide]

Maybe abyss enemies are colorblind

Not like they usually see any light or colors either

[heavy mural]

RoD causes pink light, Adults spawn, Adult Wyrms like pink light

[ashen warren]

Blood moon spawns eidolon wyrms instead of zombies

[glossy bough]

Misspelled starry

otherwise, good suggestion imo

[alpine copper]

Just realized lol

[glossy bough]

I wonder what would happen if we posted both sprites and code for the suggestion

[worthy fiber]

[lunar rune]

There's a mana cap so....

[jovial spire]

Yeah of 400, not counting consumables

With consumables i think the cap is 600 or 550

@alpine copper you do remember life fruit is stupidly easy to craft right

Ao you could have like +100 hp alomot everywhere you go

[alpine copper]

And your point is?

I can change it to use living shards

[jovial spire]

Nah just nerf the hp bounus

[alpine copper]

Hmm

50 hp perhaps

[jovial spire]

Since you can get shards of life easy as cake post ML

Yeah maybe that

[glad kraken]

This isn’t much of a suggestion, but I think they should fix the Charred Idol’s description as it still says Calamity Biome

[jovial spire]

Well post it

People will be all over that 7/10

[alpine copper]

What about the star in a bottle upgrade?

[jovial spire]

Seems good

[alpine copper]

Any opinions?

[jovial spire]

Mana is capped at 400 with no consumables anyways

So yeah seems balanced well enough

[low hedge]

@glad kraken dw it was fixed

[jovial spire]

Wait since when

[glad kraken]

Oops, sorry, when I was playing it wasn’t, they must’ve done it before I said

[jovial spire]

Like what update

[low hedge]

i believe the fix wasn't released yet but it was fixed dw

[glossy bough]

holy shit that Life Fruit vase seems a bit OP

[alpine copper]

I already lowered the hp bonus

It was 100

Now its half

[glossy bough]

oh ok lel

[glossy bough]

Also, Astral Jelly doesn't exist