"16 - Made the world more wet."
#suggestions-discussion
tulip fulcrum
Yeet
ashen warren
Abyss planetoid 
tulip fulcrum
Lmao, time to get moist and charged up
arctic wren
wait
victide reduces breath use in the abyss? š¤
ruby cobalt
Yes.
ashen warren
arctic wren
right
ashen warren
oof that's large
arctic wren
I agree then
kind of weird it only does it in the abyss
pretty big for a pre-moonlord, much less pre-hardmode armour set
š¤
winged adder
fossil torrent
That reminds me how weird it is having the mod named Calamity Mod (No Calamity Music), for WMITF reasons, it should be renamed, but I have no idea how
ashen warren
Calamity Mod (Content) perhaps?
earnest raptor
ashen warren
Calamity, Calamity Music, maybe.
fossil torrent
The thing is, doing that, people who just download the most popular mod from the browser wonāt know that thereās another mod for music, and will think that the mod just.. has vanilla music
lunar rune
ya know if you search up calamity you see the top 2 mods
the main calamity mod literally says "no music"
worthy fiber
There's always those people out there
fossil torrent
Weāre discussing changing the name to not have (No Music) because it looks really damn weird
lunar rune
but it literally has no music in the name
fossil torrent
Because of wmitf
Yes but it having no music in the name looks really STRANGE, so what I said was about IF IT WAS REMOVED
lunar rune
oh
fossil torrent
(Not angry btw)
fossil torrent
itās np, dw
I searched thru fabās patreon pate 4 times and didnāt notice where it said who you should contact, so i can be blind too
ashen warren
Idea: rework flower boots so they can grow life fruit and glowing mushrooms in their respective biomes.
Removing grinding.
Please tell me if this is terrible.
hexed hedge
Sounds like itād be too easily abused
Dig out a big long line and fill it with jungle grass
Run back and forth with a pickaxe destroying all the flowers and bushes that spawn
Ezpz
civic rampart
Growing life fruits on jungle grass is kinda busted tho, abit like making life crystals grow on stone
ashen warren
life fruits growing is either absurdly useful or useless depending on where you are in the game tbh
lost agate
Or you could just, armageddon, and then nuke QB
Wait, the coin drops got balanced right?
ashen warren
Calamity nukes the spawnrate of fruit post-plantera so it should be fine
A while ago i suggested pink gel as ammo, do you guys have any cool ideas for what it would do?
bouncy flames like that Catastrophe flamethrower.
@ashen warren but you can make Life Fruit out of shards that drop from Plantera
ruby cobalt
Which can also be mined.
ruby cobalt
Imagine needing a shitton of life fruits.
barren hound
multiplayer
ashen warren
Multiplayer with calamity
ruby cobalt
Multiplayer just fucks itself with a mutated cucumber.
barren hound
sounds great
ashen warren
Replace life shards with living fruit and make plantera drop them. 
Then that would break IOU and other items that rely on life shards.
Unless only Plantera would drop them
ashen warren
How would that break iou an item?
cyan lagoon
It requires living shards
teal shoal
smh bad suggestion, that would be things like leviatitan against plantera
so basically free pass
bitter topaz
just buff plant even more then 
cyan lagoon
I don't necessarily see the harm, dia
Since you can only get the IOU in pre-hm, and you can tell how hard that is to do alone (besides āæ archerfish)
ashen warren
trying to kill levi phm w/ the charge and siren movement changes is hard enough now 
amber elk
even then if your able to nab an iou, chances are you can just kill it pre plantera and nab the loot then.
ashen warren
plus plant dies fast enough anyways with post clone gear
radiant meadow
even with archerfish, siren and levi phm are already hard
and you don't have to bully plant with leviatitan
plenty of weapons already do that 
ashen warren
So living fire blocks are not too terribly useful normally, what if they were an alternate fuel source for flamethrowers
Slime is abundant enough
@placid island 5 speed, 350% pickaxe power or similar for the DoG pick?
Many alt flamethrower fuel suggestions have been made . I do suppose that this one works, but the ichor one sounds overpowered, even when compared to the others, which are flames debuffs.
@ashen warren good idea. Ichor should have a damage penalty though.
I was thinking less of a damage penalty, rather have the projectiles unable to pierce at all
But thanks to piercing mechanics that would just buff damage against a single target
Yeah...
sleek wadi
I think it's fine considering Ichor Flask exists.
ashen warren
For melee lol
sleek wadi
For melee sure, but all it really does is make it so that you don't need to switch to Golden Shower and its upgrades.
ashen warren
Golden gun lol
Also what about an item dropped by providence, that functions as an infinite source of gel, like an endless musket bag, and the debuff given by it lasts forever
Profaned Fuel.
How about focusing on buffing the original flamethrower? That's weak AF since the meowthrower exists.
Which has a better debuff selection and is obtainable earlier
Pink gel: Bounces infinitely on blocks, lasts longer than normal gel, has a damage bonus. However the projectile doesnt pierce. An upside against a single target, but much worse against multiple
Normal living fire: Functions the exact same as gel, with higher damage and projectile speed
Cursed living fire: Inflicts cursed inferno with a high damage bonus
Living ichor: Inflicts ichor and has a high projectile speed. The ichor lasts only for about half a second, its not meant to be used to combo with other weapons
Living demon fire: Inflicts shadowflame, the projectiles have low speed but last ages to make up for it
Living frost fire: Inflicts frostburn, the projectiles are extremely fast but dont last long
Living ultrabright fire: Has a small damage bonus to make up for the fact it doesnt inflict a debuff, but the flames penetrate blocks and give off a load of light
Profaned fuel: Dropped rarely by providence, functions as an infinite flamethrower fuel, functions mostly identical to gel, with a high damage bonus and inflicts holy flames on anything unlucky enough to be licked by the flames. This debuff lasts forever
keen palm
Stained Crystal Staff
Late Pre-Hardmode summoner weapon, meant to be the classes Night's Edge.
The Crystal's minions would behave much like the Hornet Staff's minions, flying close to the player's back in a nice line. The Crystal minions would shoot a burst shot of three, piercing red-violet shards that travel in a straight line. These shards would be fired quickly, and would move fairly fast. Recipe: Imp Staff, Hornet Staff, Dank Staff or Blood Clot Stuff, Herring Staff ( Maybe Seabound Staff? )
Why?: Out of all of the "official" classes, the summoner lacks a Night's Edge type weapon. With this, it could flesh out the early summoner a little bit, and could pave way for a Terra-Minion and above.
Formatting difficult
ashen warren
Make it pre-skeletron since minions that shoot are dum
Also do the shards go through walls?
radiant meadow
@sweet grove it would be better if you made the suggestion a single message
cyan lagoon
not necessarily a rule though
should just star the bottom post instead
only frowned upon since organization and cleanliness is recommended
ashen warren
I like this
ashen warren
ele axes aren't pre hardmode 
ashen warren
Neet. Would there be a Crimson equivalent?
fervent zealot
@hasty marlin not gonna happen
bold spruce
sleek wigeon
The idea of classes just getting stuff to built into terra stuff is kinda ech. It homogenizes all playthroughs into exactly the same steps
ashen warren
terra yoyo for the win
But yeah, classes should feel different, not just weird ways of making enemies die.
sleek wadi
I'd rather focus on summons that react to your input rather than have another brainlet with a gun.
ashen warren
Don't push it, that'll never happen.
Wait are there issues with the way throwing is coded?
Hella lot of them
Ah i never knew that, any particular exampls?
Okay, what about a new shroomite helm, that buffs all ranged damage not increased by the other 4, Eg toxicarp or piranha gun?
That sounds really niche-y. Mayhaps an accessory
Desist spam.
lost agate
What the hell?
ashen warren
I dunno
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren can you not
ashen warren
But if he deletes, Ima got a screenshot
frail mantle
Maybe instead of adding another shroomite helmet the toxicarp and piranha gun and such can just count as launchers for shroomite helmets
ashen warren
What would Leviatitan be then?
frail mantle
Probably a gun
ashen warren
That's the problem though, 'Probably' isn't a good confirmation. Though an item just for those would be redundant tho.
barren hound
one of the best spaghetti code interactions with thrower is that all throwing weapons count as ranged
so things which add stuff to ranged weapons like frost armor or calamitys elemental quiver work with throwing
tropic yoke
Why must there be many a shroom helmet?
Iām gonna think of something to suggest that doesnāt involve sprote
Hehe
sleek wigeon
leviatitan would obviously be a gun nerd
rustic ember
maybe it should be a healer weapon
hasty marlin
If Rogue damage was made to get around the problems with Throwing damage in the base game then it's actually a great idea, and if Throwing weapons from vanilla (and maybe even other mods) can be converted to Rogue (@sturdy latch) then that's even better, but there should still be some kind of official statement about it. The fact that there's a pinned post in mod_talk means I'm not the only person who updated, loaded the game, and went wtf, but "Throwing ceased to exist in Calamity, it's rogue now. Yes, it's incompatible with other mods. Deal with it." doesn't answer any questions
ashen warren
Yeah and get with our good buddies like Fargo and what not to also make compatibility version of their things. If we want calamity to be the best mod out there, and we also want to one day be fully compatible with say Thorium etc...(not just play nice with their mods), we should all have this in mind.
Not so sure about lui afk though even though I like its unlimited throwing weps and able to get modifiers on them
Unreal sticky grenade!
Sorry about that, left a book on my keyboard
I done that before but never hit enter.
left a controller or something touching a key
My numpad has enter right beside plus
frail mantle
@thorn brook instead of saying āwhat if the pillars dropped something specialā, perhaps suggest what that could be. What kind of rocket launcher? What would it do? What would drop from the other pillars? What would they drop? Why do you think this should be adde into the game?
thorn brook
cyan lagoon
A bit blunt but you do have a point
Plus it could be hard to come up with some unique ideas given the limited range of the pillars
frail mantle
What I mean is that you should elaborate a bit on your suggestion. Just saying āthe pillars should drop something specialā isnāt very specific.
Even though you did say that the Vortex one could be a rocket launcher.
torn creek
^
Slipspace, A suggestion is to be complete and reviewed before posting. That is why there is this channel, to discuss it
hollow shell
Vague suggestions are acceptable but less helpful
ashen warren
^
hollow shell
We have a tag in the dev server for suggestions that are concepts rather than specific items
cyan lagoon
While throwing is pretty much fucked it shouldn't be entirely abandoned
old storm
this is hypothetical, but let's say Re-Logic gets their shit together and makes throwing dmg actually its own thing and not pseudo ranged in the code in 1.3.6, or maybe do the same thing as here and make a completely separate class and simply dump the throwing code, would calamity return the rogue weapons to whatever their vanilla equivalent would be then?
....... yeah right, as if that would happen.....
as in throwing changes in vanilla.
ashen warren
why would you ever want that summoner change..? it doesn't really make sense tbh
jovial spire
Fungle clump
errant laurel
It does when you count in how many buffs you can (and frankly: should) take, especially if you're a pure summoner, and with so many debuffs to take up even more slots...
And frankly: unless you go full worm, almost none of the Auric armor's minions are of any substantial use by the time you get the Auric armor, which has all three compared to the other armors.
ashen warren
if you don't go full worm with auric you're cucking yourself out of damage though, and practically nobody is gonna use fungal clump at that point in the game, especially with amalgam being so sub par in comparison to other accessories
as for how many buffs you should have, that's only a problem if you use profaned soul and actively silvabuff, which a lotta people won't do since it's 10s of invul you could have later in the fight
radiant meadow
I think it's mainly the silva crystal?
errant laurel
TBH, I didn't know what profaned soul was before basically an hour ago
Just got here and saw the update, so I wasn't really taking that in mind
radiant meadow
silva crystal, daedalus crystal, reaver orb, sea urchin, valkyrie, mini slime god, and chaos flare could all go w/o buff slots
although that means no more daedalus crystal right click memes
ashen warren
which is like summoner's main source of damage when minions decide to sit and watch the plant instead of attacking 
errant laurel
Uh, haven't had that happening so far. They're usually the most active minions of the army
ashen warren
the amount of times entropy's vigil just stopped attacking tilted me to just go daedalus crystal spam
errant laurel
They, on the other hand, were always lazy
keen nebula
eidolon worm staff buggy
fossil torrent
Heyy the candle suggestion has finally been sent 
150 stars later
3 devs also starred it, so it maybe has good chances
radiant meadow
the question is, what do those devs do
errant laurel
Also, if I may add to my point about summoning: the worm is a bit, just a tad, kind of bugged.
ashen warren
yeah uh, that's known
west prairie
we literally had a deepfried image of danny saying "yes we know mechworm is buggy" that circulated here a few times
errant laurel
And that's a bit of the reason why I prefer to use other summons to... Whatever the hell opened that portal of Rainbow Derouring Derourerness. I would assume something like that came with Apothesis & Friends, but I have that mod turned off, so it wasn't that.
cyan lagoon
My only complaint with it is how it's designed, @spiral olive
not sure if it'd look better as a human skull, that's why blood pact became a ram skull
spiral olive
which part, the mechanics or the actual design
ah
design can be changed, i just wanted to get something on paper to show what i meant
spiral olive
dia i swear to god if you find some way to exploit this i will slap you 
spiral olive
probably not, i just feel bad for poor blood pact
plus i had the name in my head for a while and wanted to do something with it
teal shoal
Only offense form would end up in
And reduction for tank would be changed to dr(which is worrhless btw)
frosty kindle
Luigi has yet to move.
spiral olive
im not the best at number balancing so it would probably be heavily tweaked if it did get in, i just like the idea of an accessory where you can change between offensive and defensive
teal shoal
Thing like that just wouldbt get in caÅa, thorium maybe or so, again that's just for def part
ashen warren
@radiant meadow laser walls, and max speed from the getgo btw
radiant meadow
mostly meant phase 1, but okay
ashen warren
pretty sure max speed applies to p1 as well
radiant meadow
thing is, I can't really feel the speed difference
eager palm
You don't need to post that image there, could've just posted it here
tropic yoke
Big rip @elder sparrow
Also whatās with that soul amount difference, too?
100, 200, and 800
sleek wadi
Guiding Flame
Post-Plant/Clone Mothron drop
Tool
While active, a flame will pop up on your cursor. All summons will constantly target this flame instead of targeting other enemies. Attacks will still hit any enemy that happens to get in between the flame and summons.
Summons are super dumb and rev+ summoner forces you to just sit around until the boss dies or lose DPS. By forcing constant targeting, the summons will no longer stop attacking and they'll hit whatever you need them to as long as your target is on screen. Summoner's can now both do something and not have to rely on rarted AI
tropic yoke
Hmmm
radiant meadow
would they attack the flame rather than follow the player?
tropic yoke
Sounds š
radiant meadow
because often times, the enemy is there but summons pull a dumb and chase the player
sleek wadi
Yes they would be permanently aggroed towards the flame while it's active.
devout seal
@elder sparrow GSS exists, and drops essence of cinder
elder sparrow
it doesn't iirc?
proven tide
(Also, you mean Chaos and Eleum respectively)
sleek wadi
Yeah GSS doesn't drop essence, only Grand Scales
ancient atlas
sand elemental does, not GSS
elder sparrow
i'd like to go to a desert and farm them kinda like how i can just go in the crags to get some
and not wait 5 hours for a sand tortoise to spawn, only for it to not give me anything or very little
delicate raft
I agree
ancient atlas
zerging in space for sunskaters/wyverns is also an option but i do see your point
delicate raft
Yes, Zerg is an option in many cases
But cinder should be as easy to get as the other essences
ashen warren
Lamp
ancient atlas
GSS should just drop cinder in that case
related to sandstorm, spawnable
just as simple as the other essences i assume
chilly osprey
Hey, does anyone besides me want DM polterghast to be nerfed? I was finally able to beat it a few days ago, but I only got 7 ruinous souls, so I have to farm him. But I havenāt been able to beat it since, because polterghast is REALLY hard, even with early post-polterghast gear like the Valediction.
chilly osprey
What did you use? Cosmilamp?
I was using aetherās whisper when I first fought it
chilly osprey
woah... I never saw a āgolden gunā
thank you for the video! btw did you make it?
sinful violet
wasnāt it 35, or is that a different video
chilly osprey
Could you also tell me what accessories you used?
Iām not very familiar with summoner, sorry.
icy kelp
it's in the video 
chilly osprey
Oh, whoops
frank stratus
omg yes aq dropping essence of cinder that will solve all my calamity problems
rip giant suggestion
sleek wadi
Put that all in a doc please, kinda flooded out the channel
proven tide
^
pliant bone
viscid blade
jovial spire
@rapid pivot You should make a recipie and blast radius
frank stratus
i usually just get another mod with big bombs or powerful drill units but a built in one sounds nice
rapid pivot
I'unno what the exact blast radius is.
jovial spire
Ya know what, trying to gety better at spriting, if you do that i'll attempt at making a sprite for it
I think about a 40 block circle maybe
30-40
round falcon
Explosives radius maybe?
jovial spire
since you said really clear out
frank stratus
lol more javelins
idle shoal
You think if you changed it so that say revengence was selectable at the world generation menu that it would fix multiplayer terraria? If that is even possible
tropic yoke
Probably would just make more problems thatād have to be found and fixed
tropic yoke
Do you guys think armor fashioned after the Praetor Suit from Doom would have a chance if getting in?
jovial spire
It would be better for a vanity tbh
Acual armor dont really get added
In fact, i dont think any armots from here have been added
tropic yoke
Hek
Maybe something like the abyssal diving suit.
I had the idea a while back where you could kill enemies at low hp with little animations
Like in Doom
Probably won't make it anyways
sleek wadi
Current Suggestions with 65+ stars but no check(at least on my screen):
Xeroc Dye
Craftable Living Loom
Moving Dragon Egg to Ancient Manipulator
Eidolic Aspiration
IOU alternate recipe, using Ashes of Calamity instead of Living Shards
Nullification Pistol special death message
Profaned Basin
Aquatic Scourge dropping Essence of Cinder
plush remnant
How many item suggestions have even made it in in a modified form, though?
fossil torrent
No idea, but it's really not many
plush remnant
As far as I know, the only suggestions that have made it through are ones that the devs were already gonna do.
Anything that requires extra work when it comes to coding and spriting seems to be put aside.
Might just be me though
fossil torrent
The candles require like, 0 work to put in though
The sprites are already there (
), the coding for candles are already there, just need to raise the numbers a bit
ashen warren
But that requires effort smh
heavy mural
Pros got a point
ashen warren
Maximum 10 seconds to change code 
heavy mural
Too much
plush remnant
Someone should make a Calamity companion mod filled with nothing but suggestions that got sent to dev server and were set aside,
If I knew how to code, I'd start that.
ashen warren
Yowzers that'd take a while
eager palm
Lol good luck
arctic wren
why would yharon drop yharim's soul 
heavy mural
Because it be like that 
ashen warren
SCal buffs
plush remnant
DoG needs a buff tbh, he's too easy
ashen warren
^ legit
plush remnant
He's my favorite boss too
His chain of bosses leads up to him so well
And the actual fight is just... Underwhelming.
And this is after at least 20+ playthroughs
heavy mural
Honestly most hated boss
frail mantle
plush remnant
ashen warren
yes
frail mantle
O yes
arctic wren
heavy mural
Which fish
tired haven
I disagree (to likely make up to 75%)
ashen warren
"Fuck the Fish" no that's siren
plush remnant
Yharon is just Dragon Fishron
frail mantle
Dick Fuckron
plush remnant
Prove me wrong 
frail mantle
yharon is infinitely better than Fishron because the flarenadoes donāt shoot sharks
heavy mural
Duck Crabwalk is fucking gay
arctic wren
don't tempt fab
plush remnant
Changelog: Flarenados now shoot flame projectiles at you. Infernados now shoot Flarenados
arctic wren
ashen warren
NO
frail mantle
Also you have a lot better space to move with Yharon, even on a large world
arctic wren
flareception
plush remnant
heavy mural
Quick put it in Suggestion s
plush remnant
frail mantle
n o
arctic wren
jokes aside as for dog though I'd rather he be revamped a bit than made harder
mainly because it irks me how long he spends invincible in the second phase
makes the fight drag on more than it really needs to
heavy mural
15 second of fun
frail mantle
15 seconds of f u n
ashen warren
The thing about DoG is P1 doggo is like 30 seconds
plush remnant
Changelog: Yharon Phase 2 now infinitely spawns birbs
arctic wren
15 seconds of FU
ashen warren
And p2 wastes time
heavy mural
I wouldn't mind unlimited birbs
ashen warren
I hate the sentinels section though
arctic wren
Also gotta agree tbh
frail mantle
DoG should actually begin spawning DoTs in phase 2
plush remnant
Yeah same
ashen warren
Like actually hate
heavy mural
Changelog: DoG now has a p3, lol he shoots Infernado now
plush remnant
It's just a filler
arctic wren
the sentinels section is basically "free heal before p2"
given how easily and pointless it is
plush remnant
Can we just give DoG the Astral Aureus treatment?
Same boss and lore, completely different type of boss and fight
arctic wren
I mean dog himself is too well known to scrap
the fight itself can be changed though
plush remnant
Like, phase 1 can stay the same
frail mantle
The problem with DoG imo is that he barely has any projectiles
plush remnant
But instead of the already killed sentinals coming back
Phase 2 can cause the DoG to start stripping his armor, going faster, and using portal type attacks
heavy mural
š¤
plush remnant
Kinda like the steriotypical "Spawn 50 portals, chain lasers from each one"
Fantasy magic attack
heavy mural
Interesting concept
arctic wren
Sounds like an interesting idea
would likely be more fun than the laser walls if done well
plush remnant
I mean, isn't one of DoG's biggest lore points his ability to rip holes in reality?
heavy mural
Yos
ashen warren
I actually like laser walls
plush remnant
And yet we never see anything like that in his boss fight
ashen warren
They're the only good part about invul phases
plush remnant
At best you can consider "turning invisible and invulnerable" him phasing dimensions
DoG Phase 3: DoG loses his armor, gains a bunch of new portal themed attacks
And can teleport strike you
arctic wren
DoG phase 4: comes out of nowhere to instantly gobble you
plush remnant
Because he's way too easy to kite
frail mantle
He should start doing something like, spawning a DoT every time he exits laser spam phases
plush remnant
So, like, he makes a portal, dives into it, and then comes out closer to you and charges you
heavy mural
Something about Death Mode makes me think that's a bad
plush remnant
Givin you enough time to dash or RoD out of the way, but still surprising you
heavy mural
My ass would get a heart attack
plush remnant
"Puzzle fight"
Hitting the enemy weak point for massive damage isn't a puzzle.
That's just a mechanic
fossil torrent
Incognito The game is supposed to be possible by killing all bosses without dashing/rodding
ashen warren
Not that, DoG is hard until you gain enough muscle-memory and so on
Fab even said puzzle boss iirc
fossil torrent
I took 200 nohit attempts to completely learn DoG, after that I could nohit him like every 10 attempts no problem
plush remnant
Yeah, it might just be me having fought him hundreds of times and getting his fight down to a science.
fossil torrent
Most of those 10 deaths were getting stuck on Signus or making some input mistake in phase 2
plush remnant
Fucking signut
fossil torrent
(Had to do that an amount of times because I got DQ'd fucking 3 times)
plush remnant
My least favorite Sentinel
fossil torrent
Signut's stupid, such a different power level than the other two
Ceaseless Void in DoG fight is literally just a "hold left/right and shoot it" simulator
And the worm dies in like 5 seconds
frail mantle
I thought Signus was supposed to be the strongest of the sentinels
after all, heās described in the lore as the one sentinel who has gotten closest to killing Providence
arctic wren
he's the only sentinel with a particularly interesting fight imo
I'd say signus is my favourite sentinel
arctic wren
I'd rather storm weaver and ceaseless void were buffed up to be closer to signut's level tbh
given imo he's still noticeably easier than any of the major post-ml bosses I don't think it'd make them unfairly hard
sleek wadi
Remove the damn mines and suddenly Signut is on the same level of CV and SW
arctic wren
yes
lol
But once you learn how to avoid the mines the fight is suddenly quite easy
largely because of that fact
sleek wadi
Run one way and get hit, run the other and get hit, or stay still and get bashed. At least the fight is short.
arctic wren
I guess he could be changed to be less reliant on the mines but idk
I don't think he really needs it
this might just be me being biased, like I said I like signut's fight
arctic wren
You can mine an area out before though
I tend to use the arena I make for brimmy for him
sleek wadi
See, I just take some brimstone up to a surface arena for Brimmy. This means that in order to have a not-painful Signut, I'd have to demolish an entire chunk of hell for one miniboss.
arctic wren
Fair enough on the first point.
Still, given you have a drill containment unit it doesn't take too long. If one choses to fight provi in hell the arena one would use for that would work too
west prairie
reading up yeah this channel is basically a joke, only stuff the devs come up with really gets in if we're talking about anything more substantial than tweaking a number
sleek wadi
Dust Devil's Daydream just got 65+ stars
Meanwhile, the most recent flamethrower fuel suggestion is one star off
faint rivet
Was Dralis serious about another accessory slot? 
frail mantle
Probably
faint rivet
some classes already struggle filling 7 slots
sleek wadi
Yeah due to melee's grand total of 1 accessory, it's actually really hard to find good use for the other 5 slots. 5 not 6, Seraph Tracers are practically required.
faint rivet
You're already more or less going pure damage for SCal, and more accessories simply aren't needed at that point
Summoner would be quite strong with Dimensional
ashen warren
All it means is adding yharim's gift or void of extinction
frail mantle
When i play summoner i tend to go with max minions basically
faint rivet
Yeah another 15% damage, or 3 summon slots for summoner
sleek wadi
Also what made the 7th slot in Calamity a thing was the fact that apparently code for a 7th slot already existed and was never implemented, so adding a consumable for the last slot was super easy to do.
A fast replacement for what used to enable Prepare to Cry mode
frail mantle
Prepare to Cry mode is just Death Mode tbh
ashen warren
If you tried to do a PtC mode playthrough you'd be going through a hell DM can only dream of
Almost every boss would instagib you at lower tiers and their health was boosted a lot iirc
faint rivet
frail mantle
So, PtC is Masomode
ashen warren
Haven't tried that yet, offtopic dough
dense needle
Eeh i tried to nohit ks and ended up ising level meters for the last accs
ashen warren
Wrong channel, go here -> #calamity-mod-talk
dense needle
Woops okay sry
devout seal
@lunar rune 7 slots is the absolute hardcoded max, wingslot is basically what you want.
faint rivet
Could just install wingslot yourself tbh
frail mantle
I agree, even though i dont think āthere is aa mod that fixes thatā is a valid reason
faint rivet
7 slots is already hard to fill in some cases
ashen warren
@rapid pivot 3 dynamite is used in the explosives recipe already. I think that 3 explosives and a flare or something similar would work well.
plush remnant
Wing slot is balanced tbh
worthy fiber
faint rivet
sleek wigeon
making a cheat mod canon
faint rivet
vestal elbow
Wing slot is balanced if you dont use the Demon Heart 
tired haven
I mean uhm, yes but... mhm
sleek wigeon
aye youtuber overrides cooldude now
tepid root
Oof
tulip parcel
Carrot Cake
āRabbit Foodā
Pre-Hardmode Consumable
Purchasable from the Merchant at any point
A white carrot cake slice. Chunks of carrot can be seen in the cake. It looks delicious.
Increases movespeed and acceleration by 10%, and increases jump height by 50%. Additionally disables fall damage.
What do you think of food
low hedge
something you can buy at any time that gives insane boosts 
who fuckin needs aerostone and lucky horseshoes anyway
ruby cobalt
giga chees
remove fall damage and nerf MS/accel to 5%, jump height to 30%
Don't balance things around "YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED BUFFS TO DO THIS".
low hedge
to live š¤
tired haven
@TŠ¾asterFly#4579 35 - Reduced Moon Lord head eye HP in revengeance mode. - Done ā
tired haven
@lost agate shut
ashen warren
@gusty lotus Translations don't affect the game as much as you think. If you want to, you can make the translations yourself, but the developers have better things to work on.
gusty lotus
ok
keen nebula
still wanna fish these up in the sulphurous sea, either as a quest fish or a potion material fish
ashen warren
PHM fishing weapon
narrow saffron
ashen warren
ashen warren
Based on a not-dead-yet fish.
lavish lily
I feel like a fish from the sulphuric ocean should be made into a potion that gives you a buff similar to how tipsy works.
plush remnant
Next update is the rogue update, better start cooking up ideas. 
tulip parcel
...hold my beer
Fan of Knives
Hardmode Rogue Weapon
5 Crystal Shards + 100 Pixie Dust + 5 Adamantite/Titanium Bars
An enchanted dagger that splits upon being tossed, allowing it to hit multiple targets.
Fan of Knives has two functions; The first is the LMB, where the user will charge forward and strike the first thing they hit, akin to dash attacks from various shields. The user is immune to damage while charging, and upon impacting a target is sent backward.
RMB unleashes a spray of knives similar to the Vampire Knives, but in a much more controlled spread of eight daggers, going in a tight conic pattern. Upon hitting a target with the RMB attack, the user is knocked away from the target.
what do you think of this?
radiant meadow
crafted at a mythril anvil?
tulip parcel
yeah ofc
tulip parcel
I dunno I feel like Rogue needs to be like
the Bard of Calamity
they need to have a variety of weapons to use with weird functions
gusty geode
I feel like the mods are gonna raise the star count again soon 
sleek wadi
Flower Boots Rework, Guiding Flame, Stained Crystal Staff, and deathmode DoG change all got 65+ stars. Essence Javelins are 1 off.
sleek wigeon
Enchanted sword is fine
Its a super strong weapon to find early on, the strongest sword prehm untill like
the nights edge type weapons
if you hit with both the beam and the sword you end up doing quite alot of damage
sleek wigeon
Thats why its capped at 30% 
radiant meadow
rn, it's capped at 50%
Fab realized it was a mistake and it's back to 30% next update
sleek wigeon
imagine doing +33% dps for being melee
which is multiplicative on top of all your other damage bonuses
radiant meadow
it makes a big difference 
gusty geode
You can get 3 of the 4 Night's Edge weapons pre-boss if you know what you're doing
eager palm
Well yeah that's not that hard
Go get an entire nights edge pre boss
Then we'll talk
sleek wadi
Any way to break through dungeon brick pre-boss, because you could mine out the dungeon that surrounds the gold chests to land yourself a Muramasa
gusty geode
I don't remember them patching the Blade of Grass pre-boss
And you can also get Light's Bane/Blood Butcher by mining Demonite/Crimtane (nobody acknowledges that you can do that)
eager palm
not really since entering the dungeon immediately summons a dungeon guardian
sleek wadi
Then cut out the dungeon. Dungeon Guardian can't spawn if there is no dungeon to spawn in
gusty geode
^ Actually possible, if time-consuming
sleek wadi
You can easily take out the walls, the thing that causes dungeon to be dungeon, by placing another wall over it.
plush remnant
Yeah, the evil island plus bombs/dynamite
And yeah, you can do that as well
Blade of Grass is just normal jungle mats
gusty geode
It also generates in small veins underground
Why does nobody ever take advantage of this
plush remnant
And Molten Greatsword is just mining with bombs and obsidian skin
gusty geode
Night's Edge is pre-boss
plush remnant
Because I've literally never seen more than one or two veins.
plush remnant
The only thing I do with Crimtane and Demonite gear is mine Hellstone tbh.
I literally wear Victide until Aerospec, and then Aerospec until Statigel. I dislike most of the vanilla armor sets except for the Lunar armors.
gusty geode
A ton of suggestions over the past couple days have gotten well beyond the required star count and haven't been checked
What's up with that?
bold spruce
Patience, young one.
plush remnant
@tulip parcel Tbh, I feel like the LMB and RMB should be swapped around, but that's just personal preference.
glossy bough
wait a sec the player is immune while charging?
that's a bit overpowered
that's like the dodge roll from Gungeon
torn creek
The slime god does go through platforms....
lost agate
Well, it wasnt hard to do, and there was no real reason not to do so
dusty stirrup
hue
fossil torrent
just like the damn candles
fossil torrent
;-; why I gotta do everything
dusty stirrup
I'm a programmer not a spriter
I'll actually program it if you make the buff icons
š
fossil torrent
aight Iāll try it tomorrow
how did i forget about that tbh smh
I even made off versions, but forgot the buffs
lost agate
Smh
novel pebble
Use the higher difficulites..?
eager palm
Yeah thats the ultimate premise of newgame+
Since games like dark souls come with fixed difficulties therefore they have a newgame+
Calamity has multiple difficulties you can choose from
modest python
Regular, expert, revengeance, death mode, defiled rune, armageddon, iron heart.
There is a lot of options, and there may be more then what I just listed.
sleek wadi
Newgame+ where the bosses get their BR AI
modest python
Something I could see is a suggestion that post Scal, all bosses turn to their boss rush state.
eager palm
Scal won't be the final boss for much longer tho 
ashen warren
yharon's the final boss wdym
eager palm
slime king too hard psl nerf
ashen warren
@whole rune You discuss suggestions here
novel pebble
Yes
bitter topaz
@eager palm do a mod thing iirc
eager palm
I'm doing a mod thing
@whole rune discuss your suggestions here and not in that channel silly
Also @ashen warren you should detail your suggestion more instead of just "fix it"
ashen warren
IMO it's self explanatory, with the particles being dirt in the gif.
eager palm
It is but it should still be detailed
ashen warren
Aight.
fossil torrent
Yeah you sh
tropic yoke
Dirt Aerialite
radiant meadow
@sleek wadi that actually sounds like a bug
Polter shouldn't be able to do that
glossy bough
"There can only be on screen at a given moment"
runic mesa
thanks for telling me that
glossy bough
also maybe add something like "or Cursed Flames" (depending on world evil) on the Mythril bonus
runic mesa
thanks for that, ill credit you
runic mesa
too late. i like the idea of that anyway
glossy bough
damb ok
ashen warren
Isn't speed hallows gimmick?
runic mesa
is it? ive never really thought of that. i just needed buff idea, and the shadow dodge buff is just so good, thats all i could come up with to be on that level
runic mesa
ik, but even if the buffs were insane, i feel shadow dodge is just far too good
runic mesa
its far too good at a casual level. ive carried titanium to DoG
glossy bough
oh nice
runic mesa
providence was the hardest oddly
glossy bough
provi sucks to fight
runic mesa
i feel like we got off topic here
glossy bough
true
ashen warren
If you want something to compete with shadow dodge, just reduce chaos state debuff on activation.
Something essential to dodging, but not tanky.
runic mesa
yea, but i would rather not have it rely on you having a rod of discord. i dont usually grab one myself until DoG
ashen warren
Fair, but is there any other dodging mechanic that isn't just a direct teleportation/shadow dodge clone?
quiet abyss
Well, thereās bonking stuffs with shield of cthulhu
ashen warren
Solar Flare armor tho
Maybe a one use shield that can charge/take damage
But I feel it's more melee oriented.
runic mesa
im just trying to have it compete with shadow dodge, and i thought positioning is important, so thats what i thought of
ashen warren
Panic necklace mechanic wack
glossy bough
what if Ada boosted dash speed+dist by 50-100%
runic mesa
your not always going to have a dash tho. that sounds more like ana accessory anyways
runic mesa
even tho dashes are extremely common, id like them to be standalone entirely
ashen warren
You don't get asgards valor after a couple of bosses.
runic mesa
you can always have shadow dodge apply, but if you dont have a dash accessory, adamantite would then be useless
glossy bough
but Counter Scarf
ashen warren
Counter scard rev+
runic mesa
maybe
runic mesa
we are talking about buffing the useless counterparts to Titanium, palladium, and orichalium
radiant meadow
@eternal sedge boss suggestions will never be accepted
jovial spire
^
ashen warren
nice meme /s
eternal sedge
thats not fair!!
jovial spire
Even if you could, there like no claeification on the boss
eternal sedge
its a good idea!
jovial spire
How would it fit in the lore?
cold terrace
š¬
ashen warren
eternal sedge
what is lore??
eternal sedge
vryone here is so mean!!
cold terrace
scheista how old are you?
eternal sedge
9
quiet abyss
....Welp
ashen warren
cough
radiant meadow
okay then
cold terrace
radiant meadow
ToS violation
dusty stirrup
š
tulip fulcrum
O h
eternal sedge
whast tos
cyan lagoon
the terms of service
cold terrace
terms of service
jovial spire
Terms od Service
dusty stirrup
I can't believe scheista is dead
cyan lagoon
things have changed, I'm going to have to kick you @eternal sedge
jovial spire
Basically, main thing is ya have to be 13 or older
eternal sedge
wtf @cold terrace you got me in trouble!!!!!
cyan lagoon
once you're 13 you'll probably be let back
ashen warren
Uh oh.
dusty stirrup
inb4 he just returns
ashen warren
With a million accounts.
jovial spire
If the server is alive by then
dusty stirrup
yeah the server is gonna die in a few seconds, falcon
jovial spire
Same here
jovial spire
Nothing
ashen warren
You betrayed a nine y/o
radiant meadow
you just asked a question, it's fine
dusty stirrup
You asked him his age, das all
radiant meadow
now I think we can get back on the topic of suggestions now
jovial spire
Anyways, since hallowed armor has alot of speed boosts, maybe it could have more speed and max speed bounus to make it a mobility armor?
And not usless armor
jovial spire
Oh
cold terrace
hey now chloro repeater is good 
round falcon
shotbow*
ashen warren
Hallowed is outclasses by goobow iirc
cold terrace
jfc
jovial spire
Maybe a set bounus of arcelerating immediatly?
Along with the other set bounuses ofc
ashen warren
Yowzers, sounds like old elysian tracers
Let dead things be.
I remember when you went 0 - 100 in 3 seconds flat, was not good
Burden Breaker exists now
runic mesa
well if you think its a good idea, put it in suggestions. i think hallowed should be less frail imo. it just feels more frail than titanium
ashen warren
daedelaus can outclass Chlorophyte iirc
radiant meadow
chloro mage is better than daedalus mage
since chloro gives mana boosts like bonus mana
ashen warren
Daedelaus more tanky bc of all of the on hit effects
runic mesa
^
ashen warren
Pretty much nullifying Chloro and Hallo.
I'm looking forward to the stealth based mechanics of rogue, that said.
Would giving rogue Dread (from WF) be amiss?
WF?
Warframe
Hokay
A bow. For a throwing class spin off.
I don't follow.
Rogue ain't shackled to throwing nomore
Bows are stealth weapons in warframe
Change AW, SR, AMR, and other sniper rifles to rogue then I guess?
runic mesa
i would like that
ashen warren
I'd be fine with that tbh
Ranged is already favored
thing is, I don't know where you would classify a weapon as rogue or whatever else?
So, say, for instance, that the chain knife becomes rogue.
It's technically a boomerang and fits in with a 'Thief' theme
ashen warren
Rogue should be what you could see a ninja or covert ops or whatever using
Or is it really powerful one hit, long reload weapons
Along with whatever fab means by "unique" 
It doesn't feel like a class then does it?
It's a multiclass class.
Well you're no fun
ancient atlas
and then chlorophyte would become meta
ashen warren
Not in the TOS
Shroomite is now Rogue
"stealth mechanics that don't slow the player down"
Upgrade to ninja and statigel armor that does that
Think of rogue as melee/ranged in a way
Ninjas use swords and shuriken
Like throwing knives.
Melee ranged
Or
Perhaps a class known as 'Throwing'.
Where you throw weapons that could be used as melee.
It's obvious that you're not listening so I'll just wait for the next suggestion smh
Oh I am, I'm just mocking the concept in general for being too vague.
On a more serious note, would an 'invis watch' a la TF2 fit the bill?
runic mesa
i would like that.
ashen warren
I mean, you got the potion and stuff, but an accessory would also be nice
ashen warren
Dead ringer accessory
sleek wigeon
@whole rune new game plus doesnt work in terraria. all the fun in terraria is the constant progression of new stuff
runic mesa
still counts
ashen warren
Old af if you wanted to stay relevant. TBH there wasn't much going on anyways
sleek wigeon
i will slaughter you
runic mesa
please no murder here. i dont want to see that
ashen warren
Try me, I'm already dead inside
icy kelp
why are people so hostile?
ashen warren
I'm praying that he is, as well, not taking this seriously
ancient atlas
ashen warren
Should the Goblin army get another buff?
How tf are bees rogue? they loud as shit
They kill enemies fast
runic mesa
but they loud
ashen warren
Grenades do exist, they're loud, but many a 'spy/agent' has used them
Also flashbangs I guess
runic mesa
ok but has a spy ever used BEES on purpose
ashen warren
Watch the wicker man
Yes, I bet loads of spies use explosives
The really loud, really noticeable and really "blow your cover" weapon
Also, Celestus is a big scythe thingy, is that still technically rogue?
runic mesa
hmmm
ashen warren
At that level gale isn't really a bow or a gun so that's not really fair
Same for exoblade tbh
Gale resembles a bow
cyan lagoon
Here's the problem sequence
ashen warren
Exoblade is probably a projectile sword
You've ceased being the roots of your class
cyan lagoon
If we wanted to make rogue entirely spy/espionage related
we'd have to change their weapon selection completely
Given most if not all of rogue/thrower's potential options right now are just throw shit.
Nothing unique compared to something like melee, but still more options than ranger
ashen warren
"entirely" hah, no. It's the only thing we have from announcements other than "melee weapons"
What I'm a bit worried about is that suggestions that aren't spy related will get shot down with the intention of 'Lets make Rogue special, we got enough throw shit'.
runic mesa
fair point
ashen warren
"we got enough throw shit" is actually true tbh but if anybody doesn't star a suggestion they think is good just cause "not stealthy" then their opinion kinda becomes moot
I'll guess by melee like, we're gonna get a backstabbing feature
The fan thing that Vorbis suggested has a pretty hot LMB for example so I starred it even though the right click is just vamp knives aka "throw shit"
Wha? The LMB is a charge. I get an earlier 'knives' option, but stealth/rogue doesn't bring a bashing attack to mind.
I think Vorbis was going for a warfan
What type?
ancient atlas
edgy anime slash type
ashen warren
Tessen were folding fans with outer spokes made of heavy plates of iron which were designed to look like normal, harmless folding fans or solid clubs shaped to look like a closed fan. Samurai could take these to places where swords or other overt weapons were not allowed, and some swordsmanship schools included training in the use of the tessen as a weapon. The tessen was also used for fending off knives and darts, as a throwing weapon, and as an aid in swimming.
So not quite that
Still, fan weapons are an idea
iirc Vorbis got his 'fan' weapon in.
hurhur
runic mesa
i would like one of those. fans have always been interesting weapons
ashen warren
Back on topic, the fan sounds similar to that MK character.
Kitana, I believe.
Damn, she's totally a non-stealthy rogue
Boomerang fan
Seems legit
I really wanna know what "unique weapons" means
Would make suggestions easier
I dunno.
A back stabbing knife?
Remote explosive?
Just gotta wait a month or two I guess
Solid snek?
plush remnant
"Psssh, nothing personell, kid"
ashen warren
And that.
Solid snek
The most stealthiest assassin. * May include grenades *
Tbh snake is a terrible stealth guy
I am aware that smash isn't canonical, but his final attack is just shooting grenades at people.
So, basically, 10/10 ninja.
Missiles* and yes, don't use smash
Doesn't help that they're fucking missiles though
RPG for rogue
Ooh, smoke bombs.
That may have merit
Ninja enchantment from fargo makes smoke bombs useful
teleportation smoke bombs.
ancient atlas
just to compensate for that one guy who R E A L L Y wants beenades to be rogue
ashen warren
No
ancient atlas
because all players need to be satisfied 
ashen warren
I actually really don't like beenades
OP as shit
Cheesy?
I eat beenades
Make a nanotech grenade so I can have stealthy beenades.
Add a reference or two to this mod, it feels empty without.
ancient atlas
add 17 references all to metal gear
ashen warren
Add an actual metal gear
..Isn't that andromeda?
Snake as the rogue NPC
wait hold up
Andromeda's canned
cyan lagoon
she wasn't official in the first place
sleek wigeon
beenades donut need rogue buffs to be usable
radiant meadow
but it would be more useful since rn, the bees aren't affected by adren/rage
ashen warren
Beenades need to be viable on Adult Eidolon Wyrm+
radiant meadow
+? 
sleek wigeon
Beenades dont need adren nor rage either
they fuck shit up all the way up untill hardmode
With literally 0 aiming effort or fucks given
ashen warren
Convenience > 'It fits in'
glossy bough
@devout seal vanilla stuff doesn't get Rogue
devout seal
oh, Well i didn't know that.
ashen warren
Try and think of rogue the same way you'd think of healer or bard
glossy bough
^
and Ninja/Fossil armor is still throwing afaik so I'm pretty sure you can use beenades
sleek wigeon
like i said before, beenades dont need a scrap of damage % to wreck everything
glossy bough
that too
sleek wigeon
Imcomprehensible moving walls of pure flesh and terror? throw bees at it
ashen warren
look man bees are spoopy
runic mesa
^
ashen warren
Bees traumatized me as a child.
brazen wedge
upgrade that to wormnades
ashen warren
Scalnades
brazen wedge
with cosmilite
ashen warren
I love that grenade, I got it first try from that boss in BL2
brazen wedge
draedon's nades
ashen warren
How about bee grenades?
glossy bough
birbnades
plush remnant
Oh god birbnades
sleek wigeon
Birbnades 
ashen warren
That was actually suggested iirc
plush remnant
Whenever they hit an enemy, they spawn another grenade
sleek wigeon
ohno
glossy bough
yeah by me
ashen warren
ono
plush remnant
STICKY BIRBNADES
sleek wigeon
ONO
plush remnant
glossy bough
brazen wedge
sleek wigeon
Get the hecking shutoff pheromens before we all drown in cute fluffy birbs
plush remnant
glossy bough
does it count as on topic if we're still talking about birbnades, which were suggested
ashen warren
B-But 
brazen wedge
gets 48594 birbnades
glossy bough
ah true
brazen wedge
also birb bullets
ashen warren
We need more
runic mesa
i want birb gun
ashen warren
Birb rocket launcher
brazen wedge
when they hit something they explode into more birbs
ashen warren
A literal sex machine.
brazen wedge
birb sword that shoots birbs
ashen warren
Birbnir
glossy bough
more uses for effulgent feathers, RIGHT NOW.
brazen wedge
excalibirb
ashen warren
True Birb of the Cosmos
glossy bough
birb armor
ashen warren
Exobirb
brazen wedge
birby gale
glossy bough
'eat birbs'
ashen warren
Consume birbs
glossy bough
ā
brazen wedge
aw
glossy bough
by me
brazen wedge
ashen warren
Calamity's vanities should get on that
glossy bough
birb summoner set
brazen wedge
im gonna go over there now
glossy bough
š¬
brazen wedge
also birb staff
glossy bough
birb summon ā
runic mesa
mod that makes dirt looks like birbs
glossy bough
mod that makes literally everything look like birbs
ashen warren
Too little*
glossy bough
good point