suggestions-discussion

[polar oar]

turning off random boss spawns turns off everything else that comes with death mode

[little talon]

Random Boss Spawns are perfectly in line with the rest of the mode.

[polar oar]

death mode isnt just boss spawns

also, no its not???

[misty talon]

me too. as far as im concerned this conversation is practically over.

[eager palm]

Pretty much.

[dusty stirrup]

there's not much that comes from deathmode aside from buffed boss AIs

[misty talon]

turn it off or deal with the boss spawns that are not random but to be expected.

[little talon]

What you want is something easy so you can get bragging rights for something difficult.

[polar oar]

if i wanted bragging rights i'd be going for the roles

something thats noticable

and to brag about

[little talon]

There's various levels of bragging rights.

[misty talon]

alright lads its derailed

[polar oar]

nobody brags over beating death mode

plenty of people have

[little talon]

Then why haven't you?

[fossil torrent]

Oh my GOD this discussion

[polar oar]

...i have

[eager palm]

Nvm, I am drawing the line here

[polar oar]

8 times

[eager palm]

Cease this discussion

[fossil torrent]

just end it already

[little talon]

Okay.

[eager palm]

Or get fucking warned

[polar oar]

we're technically discussing a suggestion

[fossil torrent]

rob did a good

[rapid pivot]

Fruity; the mod said so.

[little talon]

Fruity, you're making things worse.

[eager palm]

That suggestion is no longer there, so cease

[dusty stirrup]

The discussion has provided nothing meaningful afaik

[rapid pivot]

Their opinions and interpretations of the rules holds higher sway than anyone outside of staff.

[eager palm]

I mean it is but

We discussed it already

[polar oar]

i mean, you just called me a dumbass repeatedly

i'd say you elevated things

[little talon]

It's not elevating things to state facts, and I'd argue that you're trying to keep it going.

[rapid pivot]

Fruity; i don't think the mods are going to remain patient if you try to continue this.

[misty talon]

Alright fruity, its not about winning alright dude. be a mature person and drop it

[dusty stirrup]

UwU

[ashen warren]

Nice discussion of suggestions, everyone.

[polar oar]

thanks i tried

[fossil torrent]

hey so how’s my worm ore idea

[ashen warren]

bad

[fossil torrent]

just like me then

great

[dusty stirrup]

midly epic

[eager palm]

rip

[fossil torrent]

goodnight all

[ashen warren]

Uh, jay, exodium sorta exists.

[misty talon]

eh if you're in rev you'd want to be farming dog anyways

[round falcon]

If I starred it that means I like it i don't remember

[little talon]

Where do you live, Jay? 'Cause it seems a little early for that.

[dusty stirrup]

yeah p much

[fossil torrent]

Sweden

[ashen warren]

Where u live is very relevant.

[fossil torrent]

Everyone’s not a fucking american

[little talon]

Lenses have a recipe using glass already.

[round falcon]

Oh, nevermind I like it

[rapid pivot]

They do?

[little talon]

Yeah.

[misty talon]

that suggestion is only relevant in normal/expert since you'd be farming dog regardless in rev/death

[eager palm]

Lenses aren't that hard to get anyway

[misty talon]

not bad but the convenience is kind of moot

[little talon]

Pretty sure that's a base game feature.

[fervent zealot]

lenses are easy enough to get so nah

[ashen warren]

anyways uh, i disagree with that change based solely on the fact you'd have to fight dog again anyways to get draedon's forge so it's pretty much the same as the idea not being implemented at all imo

[rapid pivot]

I don't see it, but fair enough.

[ashen warren]

Dark lenses Oh wait

[misty talon]

if you have trouble with lenses just zerg at night tbh

[tribal fable]

...So, since this chat is about suggestions again:
-How could I change the Lumenyl orb to reduce cheese potential? Or is it fine, given its late-game restriction?

[fossil torrent]

I kinda just implemented it to bring more ores into post ML, and also in an unique area

[misty talon]

abyss is a lame ass place to have a base

[ashen warren]

Abyss is a weird place to put a base, but sure.

[misty talon]

i doubt anyone would use it

[tropic yoke]

SuBnAuTiCa

[lavish lily]

Too dark

[tropic yoke]

lMaO

[misty talon]

also gl trying to get npcs in there

[ashen warren]

Minecraft NEther is the best place for a base

[little talon]

Now I want a glass house down there.

[tropic yoke]

Speaking of Abyss....

[fossil torrent]

The plan was also to have Draedon’s forge potentionally increase it’s cost, but not so much so that it’s close to as expensive as it is to get all the items you want now

[little talon]

With a trap-door to emulate a hatch.

[ashen warren]

Yes, Abyss?

[little talon]

Yeah.

[tropic yoke]

"It's yeet or be yoten."

[fervent sky]

Hot

[fossil torrent]

[little talon]

Is that an Abyss Crabulon?

[ashen warren]

That actually fits in

[tropic yoke]

Just a crab

[ashen warren]

With the lore

[little talon]

I like that.

[fervent sky]

I wish I could improve that fast

[misty talon]

now main planetoid, thats a badass place for a base

[tropic yoke]

Meh

[misty talon]

if only you could disable floaty gravity

[little talon]

It would be awesome to have a boss in the Abyss.

[round falcon]

It's just a chunk of dirt in space

[tropic yoke]

It's just dirt

[misty talon]

yep

[round falcon]

What's so special about it

[tropic yoke]

ono doggo

[misty talon]

and nothing can spawn up there

[little talon]

It'd make that place actually useful for something.

[ashen warren]

Cinderplates

[round falcon]

[tropic yoke]

Cinderplate slime?

[dusty stirrup]

implying abyss isn't useful already smh

[misty talon]

the main planetoid has a prebuilt base tf you talking bout btw

[ashen warren]

What, no.

[round falcon]

tbh just spawn on a floating island in a large world

[dusty stirrup]

a crabulon type boss would be kinda awkward for abyss tbh

[tropic yoke]

?

[dusty stirrup]

?

[tropic yoke]

?

[round falcon]

.

[little talon]

Abyss can be easily skipped considering there's a lot of suitable replacements.

[tropic yoke]

Heck you doggo

[misty talon]

planetoid is compact, sexy, and comes with prebuilt infrastructure

[tropic yoke]

All of Calamity before ML can be skipped lol

[round falcon]

planetoid is small and hardly relevant

[misty talon]

its big enough for 80+ npcs

[tropic yoke]

That's where Tremor's one good idea came from.

[little talon]

And besides, it wouldn't be out of place. The Crabs that Crabulon once was came from a similar ocean.

[dusty stirrup]

I mean there's chaos ore (before ravager), the pre-hm weps, some pretty good hm weps, some mats are used for weps (which in turn are used for some stuff like exo weps)

[tropic yoke]

Implementing itself directly into the story.

[misty talon]

and thats not prison cells, thats 5x9 rooms last i used it

[dusty stirrup]

it'd be awkward to fight it in there

besides boss suggestions are never gonna get added

[little talon]

Well, the gravity feature could be stripped because it's actually in the water.

[tropic yoke]

I'm thinking of making it really fast and jumpy.

[ashen warren]

Maybe a floaty BOC crab that attacked you with bubbles

[misty talon]

i mean the threat of the abyss monsters is the mobility that you mostly lack

if its just a passively sitting boss, thats not really an abyss boss

[ashen warren]

and that's when the boss suggestion gets changed into a miniboss suggestion to bypass that rule

[tropic yoke]

And shooting stuff because crab logic don't give a f*ck.

[little talon]

I just suggested something that could make it more mobile.

[dusty stirrup]

wouldn't make it any less awkward

[little talon]

How would it be awkward?

[misty talon]

it doesnt quite fit abyss regardless. but crab and mobile dont go together

[fossil torrent]

btw how’s making ore veins with ”custom” shapes programming wise?

[dusty stirrup]

a big bootleg abyss crabulon just jumping at you from the bottom

[misty talon]

it'd be like astrageldon but even more annoying

[little talon]

Taking away the gravity would make it so it doesn't have to be at the bottom.

[tropic yoke]

Slime god behaviour.

[ashen warren]

mimic

[tropic yoke]

Like a big, fast, underwater mimic

[dusty stirrup]

It'd just stay in middair for a while then

[little talon]

But adding a boss down there would make it not so pointless of a biome.

[dusty stirrup]

slime god ai in abyss

oh no

[misty talon]

i mean astrageldon was basically just big ass king slime wasnt it?

[tropic yoke]

Yes

But with more things

[dusty stirrup]

just because a boss gets added to a biome doesn't make the biome less pointless tho

[little talon]

Yes, it actually does.

[tropic yoke]

It's a miniboss.

[dusty stirrup]

Abyss is already plentiful useful

another miniboss for abyss?

[tropic yoke]

not to me

[ashen warren]

Yeah, like that biome that was named after the mod.

[tropic yoke]

I love the abyss

[frank stratus]

tru

[little talon]

It adds something to do there. Something that everyone does.

[dusty stirrup]

[frank stratus]

i keep skipping the abyss by accident

[dusty stirrup]

I meant useful

[misty talon]

The abyss is probably the single most useful biome in terraria...besides underworld cause, you kind of need that

[little talon]

Other than it's subpar weapons, what use is it?

[dusty stirrup]

I don't see how abyss can be considered useless

SUBPAR WEPS LMAO

[round falcon]

you dissin on m'boi Purity Forest

[misty talon]

subpar?

[ashen warren]

Reaper shark.

[misty talon]

lionfish crushes

[tropic yoke]

^

[frank stratus]

abyss weapons too good smh

[misty talon]

abyss weapons are the most powerful for their relative tiers

[ashen warren]

Fugu weird tho.

[tropic yoke]

54 damage pre-hm throwing weapon

[round falcon]

"""""Subpar weapons"""""

[tropic yoke]

lmao

[rapid pivot]

The halibut cannon.

[frank stratus]

no fishy

[ashen warren]

Wheeze.

[little talon]

Halibut cannon needs a nerf.

[misty talon]

pre wof especially has devastating abyss weapons

[ashen warren]

Hali = cheese

[tropic yoke]

40 damage flairon pre-hm

[radiant meadow]

halibut already got nerfed twice

[eager palm]

The weapons are god-tier after beating skeletron, and you keep coming back to the abyss later on in the game

[frank stratus]

halibut got too many nerfs alreayd lol

[radiant meadow]

and it's meant to be a cheesy, cheaty weapon

[tropic yoke]

40 damage magic roxicarp

[misty talon]

Lionfish fucking crushes wof

[dusty stirrup]

also planty mush is cool for making a bunch of life fruits ithout being forced to scourge the jungle

[little talon]

Halibut is still Cheese.

[eager palm]

(to mine chaotic ore, to kill reaper sharks and eidolon wyrms etc.)

It's a good biome smh.

[placid perch]

Halibut and nerf do not work in the same sentence

[frank stratus]

yes, that's why it has an ungodly drop rate

[round falcon]

One weapon doesn't negate an entire biome

[radiant meadow]

halibut is supposed to be cheese

[placid perch]

It's a joke

[tropic yoke]

Chaotic ore needs a damage nerf pls ;-;

[dusty stirrup]

and you need some abyss mats to make some of the exo weps

[tropic yoke]

100+ dmg from a block in pre-hm

[misty talon]

Idk about the exo argument

[frank stratus]

just dont stand under it XD

[misty talon]

you need virtually every biome for exo

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren Uh, put that inna doc or smthn

Way too many suggestions

three is too many?

[dusty stirrup]

so that does make it useful then, elita

[ashen warren]

:v

[tropic yoke]

Did brimmy just switch from abyss is meh to abyss is good halfway through this conversation?

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Unrelated grouped suggestions are bad

Those are all for the same topic so you can put them in one message

[dusty stirrup]

nah I never said abyss is meh

[misty talon]

I mean

that doesnt make it necessarily useful

[dusty stirrup]

I mistyped "useless" instead of "useful"

[misty talon]

It could be like an honorary inclusion

[dusty stirrup]

but it isn't

[misty talon]

the same way deserts not really useful but still figures in

[ashen warren]

Meh, i don't want to make someone vote for ones that they don't want, i can see why someone would go for the Claws but not the Charm or Aglet ones

Or like how the crags exist

[misty talon]

I know that, but the fact that its in exo alone doesnt make it useful. The biome is absolutely key in progression though

[tropic yoke]

^

[dusty stirrup]

I didn't say it was only used in exo lmao

[misty talon]

yeet js thats not a justification when desert also is involved in exo

[dusty stirrup]

It's just another point in the pile

[ashen warren]

Stop.

[frank stratus]

is this a flex

[dusty stirrup]

smh

[tropic yoke]

lmao

[frank stratus]

[round falcon]

Peculiar means of showing off, but alas

[tropic yoke]

Eidolon Larvae?

[ashen warren]

iirc, the eido's are made from cultists, the Eidolists are the awkward teenage phase.

[frank stratus]

lmfao

[dusty stirrup]

^^

[tropic yoke]

Imagine being a worm

[misty talon]

so whats lunatic cultist? hes like old af

[ashen warren]

Imagine fighting one

[jovial spire]

Imagine not knowing a higher power

[dusty stirrup]

he's bird man

[misty talon]

bird man commander of the worm larvae people?

more interesting lore by the day

[brazen wedge]

There were a lot of suggestions today

[frank stratus]

bird man

[tropic yoke]

Imagine getting ate by 2 space worms, an abyss worm, a mutant worm, a mutant that likes worms, a sandy worm, a flying worm, and a gorey worm.

[ashen warren]

Lore wise, he did something with the blood moon, as the lore that drops from him states that he has achieved clarity from doing so, thus preventing him from attempting to turn into an Eidolon worm to increase his power. Or maybe he wasn't into metamorphosis.

Also gory WORMS.

[tropic yoke]

They were originally one

[ashen warren]

So was Astrum Deus

[tropic yoke]

Big lore off

2 space worms

DoG

[ashen warren]

Big smart.

[misty talon]

really? iirc cultist lore was only over the cultist doing something to yharim

[tropic yoke]

DoT is miniboss so

[ashen warren]

Yeah, preventing the moon lord summon.

[dusty stirrup]

there's more cultist lore soon

[tropic yoke]

Cultist wanna summon ML

or the opposite?

[misty talon]

well the rune or whatever he got power from was I guess the seal against ML

[dusty stirrup]

He sealed him

[round falcon]

ML wants to summon cultist

[misty talon]

so isnt cultist like a good guy then? or just a neutral like providence?

[ashen warren]

And Yharim didn't wanna do the Pillars, so he stayed there.

[dusty stirrup]

cultist kinda neutral iguess

[frank stratus]

cultist is just a weird person summoned by a ritual i don't think he's bad but we kill him for fun because

[misty talon]

because we're suicidal and want to bring doom to the world

[ashen warren]

Cultist NPC

[misty talon]

when you think about it your character's defining trait is extreme suicidal

[dusty stirrup]

Cultist was kinda like "yharim bitch what u doin summoning ml" then sealed ML and slapped yharim

[ashen warren]

Why he big weak then.

[misty talon]

terrarias fault

[dusty stirrup]

sealing something takes a lot of power I guess, and yeah

[misty talon]

true cultist as final pre yharim boss

[fervent zealot]

nah m

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren ???

Dont they already drop stingers

[ashen warren]

He's right

[fervent zealot]

you kill him while he's weak, he don't come back

[ashen warren]

They don't drop stingers

[fervent zealot]

moss hornets do drop stingers last i checked???

[ashen warren]

I'll be.

[misty talon]

why doesnt yharim kill him smh

[ashen warren]

Check big wiki

[dusty stirrup]

yharim doesn't care anymore

[misty talon]

also is there a motive to why yharim would even care about ml hes like god anyway

[ashen warren]

Yharim Disappear

[cyan lagoon]

fucking vanilla, man

[fervent zealot]

hm, so moss hornets don't drop stingers

[misty talon]

was ml one of the eldritch beings that made goozma or something? that would actually make sense

[fervent zealot]

vanilla has gay in a lot of ways

[cyan lagoon]

they can't get anything right

[ashen warren]

Fix now

[fervent zealot]

at 1.2 launch stingers were entirely unobtainable in hm worlds

[dusty stirrup]

kinda, elita

but the revival in the game went wrong

that's why he's so weak when you fight him

atleast iirc

[ashen warren]

weak
4-5minute slog of a fight

[dusty stirrup]

[fervent zealot]

well yeah he's still a super evil god dude

[ashen warren]

Not weak, just defensive.

[misty talon]

kinda sucks in ml fight when you get caught between 2 independent eye death rays and you cant get through without RoD

[round falcon]

lc is actually terrifying ngl

[fervent zealot]

he's just conveniently missing his legs and has his weak points exposed because the revival fucked up

[misty talon]

thinking about idk how the hell i ever got through rev ml without RoD, those death lasers are bull

[ashen warren]

So, if the revival was good, he'd be Cthulhu again?

[fervent zealot]

imagine ml but he has legs and you have to wear away his actual form instead of targeting his heart directly

[tropic yoke]

Hey Zevix

[misty talon]

nah cthulhu is the crimson

[ashen warren]

i don't think i've ever had 2 eye lasers to deal with at the same time

[misty talon]

i've had to a few times, espec in br for some reason

[radiant meadow]

wdym?

eye lasers?

[misty talon]

a detached true eye would fire at the same time as the top eye

[round falcon]

ML but he's only legs

[ashen warren]

Phantasmal Deathray

ml true eye beams

[misty talon]

and then they'd come at me from opposite direction

[ashen warren]

Moon legs

[radiant meadow]

you mean when true eyes go death beam?

[misty talon]

yeah and they'd catch me between them

that ended fights since i didnt have RoD

[radiant meadow]

you might not have more than one since you release them out of sync

[ashen warren]

oshit ye

[misty talon]

i mean it happens regardless sometimes because the fight gets stalled with the immunity period after detaching the eyes

[round falcon]

quick question since i know this is prone to happening but am i allowed to use the yoyo code from calamity to make my mod's yoyo code work

[misty talon]

and then theres like 6 flying around

[bitter topaz]

@round falcon exampleMod.tmod exists for a reason

[round falcon]

examplemod is outdated and bad

dont @ me

[cyan lagoon]

examplemod is fucking awful indeed

[bitter topaz]

is it really that bad?

[round falcon]

yes

i heard it from the Yoshi's Island mod's head dev

[bitter topaz]

i was aware it was/is kinda basic, but not that it was bad enough to be useless.

i'd suggest trying to ask fab directly, or seeing if someone would be fine with taking the question to him.

[candid dove]

How is ExampleMod bad?

@round falcon And what are those mod dev's arguments?

[round falcon]

I've seen it for myself

Yoyo code doesn't run

[candid dove]

You're more likely to have forgotten something, then.

[round falcon]

I copied the code exactly and changed the neccecary parts

[candid dove]

Could you post it here or in DMs?

[round falcon]

In a little bit, yea

[ashen warren]

ExampleMod is... Bad?

News to me.

[polar oar]

hey danny what do u think of death mode random spawns 👀

[round falcon]

Perhaps it may be an issue on my end, I'll find out eventually

[weary walrus]

It has a 1 minute delay and a warning

[polar oar]

aw snaps i've been spotted

im out

[weary walrus]

[dusty stirrup]

Can we not restart that pointless conversation again th

also yeah I'm not sure what's so bad about examplemod

[tropic yoke]

Sprites

That's about it.

[polar oar]

it only got pointless because of how it escalated, i think
the conversating itself wasnt pointless

[dusty stirrup]

but you don't use examplemod for sprites anyway

[misty talon]

i use minecraft skin editor for sprites

[glossy bough]

whut

[candid dove]

The death mode random spawns are a part of what death mode is, a difficulty mode meant to be ridiculous. If you want something below that, you'd be better off doing Rev or expert (although I doubt most people here go for the latter)

[polar oar]

damn.

[tropic yoke]

I use piq.codeus.net

[misty talon]

I did expert and I regret doing so because rev is better but also a pain in the ass to go from tanking to dodging

[polar oar]

the random spawns just feel kinda annoying, when the only way to prevent them is to go underground or opt out entirely

especially calamitas clone once 1 mech dies

[dusty stirrup]

at that point you can make it day whenever you want tho

[polar oar]

i suppose thats fair

[candid dove]

Maybe once tModLoader's mod config is out of beta, stuff like configurable boss spawns could become an option, but right now those who want it most likely outweigh those who don't want it.

[misty talon]

you dont have to opt out, if boss spawns are giving trouble you can disable deathmode till you're ready

i agree rando spawns are kinda dumb, but if you cant adjust, you arent forced to.

its not like rev where if you cant handle rev you have to get a new world or restart in some way

[polar oar]

i'd can and already have adjusted

but adjusting is a tedious process

it ruins some of the early-game flow

where the game already doesnt flow well

like being forced to tunnel with a cactus pick just to hide from bosses

[misty talon]

well, all I can say about that is, deathmode is kind of the content frontier of the mod atm, still rough drafted and in development. cant expect it to match final quality of the rest of the mod

[candid dove]

Death mode, in reality, is really just an unpolished mode; it was kinda rushed into the game because of Levi afaik, a bit of a reward/extra challenge kinda thing?

[polar oar]

i never heard it described like that, huh

[dusty stirrup]

there's not really any rewards in it aside from 2 pets

but that's kinda what it is

[candid dove]

No, for Levi, I mean

The mode being a reward kinda thing

[dusty stirrup]

ah yeah

[misty talon]

its pretty much the wild west of the mod, and I honestly wouldnt be surprised if the current features got totally gutted

[polar oar]

i just like challenging bossfights, but i also like being able to properly prepare for em

[candid dove]

And it's not really a main focus of balance, it is part of it, but far from main. The main focus would be rev and general balance.

[polar oar]

right now i feel tempted to make my base underground just so i can have a safe base

[misty talon]

meh yeah, but its not supposed to be rev with more numbers, like I said, same way rev isnt supposed to be expert with bigger numbers either

[polar oar]

which, isnt that bad of an idea

i guess

[misty talon]

i think most do that

[candid dove]

That's all it really was at the beginning, Elita

[dusty stirrup]

deathmode is bigmeme

[polar oar]

but its better than rev!

[candid dove]

It got some changes over time, so perhaps it will improve a lot more in the future

[polar oar]

sometimes.

[candid dove]

Either way, it will not be soon, likely

[dusty stirrup]

I prefer rev over deathmode tbh

[polar oar]

the only complaints with death mode i have are death mode skele prime and these random boss spawns

both feel more tedious than hard

and thats my main and only bargaining chip here

tedious =/= difficulty

[misty talon]

I prefer rev too. I agree deathmode looks annoying and I dont plan on doing it until I can breeze through rev, which im working close to.

[polar oar]

im gonna be honest, i never played through rev lol

[dusty stirrup]

smh

[polar oar]

i've only ever done death mode playthroughs

a fuckton of em

[misty talon]

Death is the rough part of the mod, and unfortunately though its concepts are appealing, it just isnt finished.

[candid dove]

^

[polar oar]

well, see

thats why im making suggestions!

[misty talon]

I think fab knows where the mode needs to go currently. Since fab is playing deathmode I'd assume its clear where boss spawns might need a nerf

[candid dove]

It's just not a main focus right now, as mentioned several times So those suggestions could very likely be lost in the channel till we actually want to focus on it

[polar oar]

last time fab was confronted about this im fairly certain his response was "just go underground lol"

[glossy bough]

idk why y'all are still arguing about this, but I would just assume let the amount of stars decide it

[polar oar]

so im not too hopeful

[misty talon]

nah we arent arguing

[candid dove]

Ye, this is just discussion

[polar oar]

its not an argument, anymore

we have civilized people here

if you were here about 40 minutes ago...

thats a different story

[candid dove]

Oh, I saw

[dusty stirrup]

It was a shitfest

[polar oar]

i like to think that i didnt cause that shitfest

i just got berated for my opinion

[dusty stirrup]

yeah you do

[candid dove]

It's best to step back if people are getting aggressive in their argumentation, that goes for everyone

[polar oar]

yea i really shouldve stepped off

that wouldve hurt my pride, though.

i value my pride

[dusty stirrup]

It was kinda on both sides

[misty talon]

Nothing is more Western than trying to win the argument.

[polar oar]

yee haw

[misty talon]

That goes for everyone who was involved

[dusty stirrup]

🤠

[polar oar]

i never degraded to insulting people, tho.

the others did that

so i won the moral victory

[candid dove]

You kinda did call one of 'em an asshole, despite him insulting first

[polar oar]

i did?

whoops

[candid dove]

[polar oar]

oh yea i remember now

TO BE FAIR it was a question

[candid dove]

Either way, let's leave that all behind

[dusty stirrup]

[polar oar]

not a statement

[misty talon]

is this a metadiscussion now? discussing the discussion

[polar oar]

i was asking him if he was trying to be an asshole, i didnt call him an asshole

metadiscussion lets go

[candid dove]

Boi, don't make me slap you

[polar oar]

do it

[misty talon]

anyway yeet the mode will go where it must

[candid dove]

Anyways, let's leave this channel back to actual suggestion discussion

We're going too offtopic now 😛

[polar oar]

lets discuss my other suggestion

16 ore for 4 bars is dum

make it 4 ore for 1 bar

[brazen wedge]

ye

[polar oar]

and nerf skelly prime

he dum

[candid dove]

I can agree on the former, haven't played enough for the latter

[misty talon]

Skeletron prime is tedious at best and bull at worst

in rev - death

[polar oar]

im speaking from my death mode only perspective, which u disagreed with earlier

but

death mode skelly

is a bitch

of rng

[candid dove]

But yea, try to give more specifics

I think there's a pin about that in the #suggestions-voting channel?

"Nerf this" and those kind of comments aren't really helpful, as we don't know what the community wants nerfed 😛

[polar oar]

ye u right

[candid dove]

It could be the knockback, for all we know

[polar oar]

yea thats it

[candid dove]

[polar oar]

when i was doing nohit skelly, the knockback was a real problem for me

infact it was so bad i gave up.

[candid dove]

Rip, anyways, try to think of some more specifics (serious ones, that is 😉 ) and post them in #suggestions-voting

@round falcon I'll continue the convo about the yoyo in here, so it's out of #suggestions-discussion, but the yoyo not working in your mod could be an issue on your end, yea. You said you changed all that's required, but I can go through a few options just to make sure:

• Namespace, this should be an obvious one, it will give you an error if it's in the wrong namespace anyways.
• Image not being in the same folder, with the same name

Although most likely, since it's more likely in-game you're talking about rather than during the build: Did you actually make the projectile file in your Projectiles folder? Without it, it won't shoot anything, thus giving the illusion it doesn't work at all.

Fuck, I meant to post that in #other-mod-talk and still posted it here, gg me

[hollow shell]

lmao

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren Calamity has vanilla npcs sell boss summons

[pliant bone]

Nice

[cyan lagoon]

atleast up to Profaned Guardians

[hollow shell]

That's his problem

Other mods add stuff to NPC shops too

and it's gettin overcrowded

[polar oar]

i posted the 2 things i was rly passionate about in #suggestions-voting already

with detail

[candid dove]

That's a lot of change, ngl, and a separate NPC just for boss summons seems kinda unnecessary to me.

That's what Fargo is for

[polar oar]

https://i.imgur.com/fA2O0yz.png see im not just a raving lunatic

i have reasons!

[ashen warren]

According to the chat history, not very accepted ones.

[polar oar]

i had some people agree with me too...

[candid dove]

That was more a general comment, fruity, about being specific in suggestions; it was not specifically to you 😛

[polar oar]

the disagreements with me i think were "death mode is supposed to be hard"

but theres a difference between difficulty and tedium that i dont think they got my point of

imo

[ashen warren]

Wait, were you over 200 HP, Fruity?

[polar oar]

nope

[ashen warren]

wew

[polar oar]

eye has no spawn conditions other than "surface at night"

[ashen warren]

Maybe add an HP check for Eye, since the basic autospawn does so. :v

[polar oar]

thats what im sayin!

[ashen warren]

What are we talking about here

[polar oar]

death mode random spawns

i think they should be removed or changed

we discussin

[ashen warren]

^

I personally think it’s a dumb idea

I'm suggesting a compromise, since this is apparently how they want to do Death now.

[polar oar]

you can read my full reasons why if u scroll up a bit in #suggestions-voting !

this is not an advertisement

gimme a star btw

[ashen warren]

Death mode has a lot of wasted potential in my eyes

Oops

[polar oar]

im fine with it just being "harder bosses"

but i like to be able to prep for my hard fights

not have em forced upon me

[ashen warren]

I just think death mode boss changes should be more unique

I’ve always believed in buff the AI over stats in games

[polar oar]

well there are a few AI changes in death mode

[ashen warren]

Yeah a few

But they aren’t really stand out

[placid perch]

I do agree with that, more changed AIs would be cool

[ashen warren]

I feel like most bosses are just “this boss now does 2x the damage and takes forever to kill”

[topaz flint]

there's also EoC

[polar oar]

im slightly opposite

[topaz flint]

whos like

first phase? never heard of it

[polar oar]

i always found rev bosses to take too little to kill

[topaz flint]

kills you with rush

[polar oar]

also eye first phase is dum anyway lol

[ashen warren]

Rev bosses are easy

Know what I’m going to say something but let me explain

[polar oar]

rev is easy, death feels just right for me in terms of difficulty

esp if im trying nohits

[ashen warren]

Because it might be a bit controversial judging from this servers Aditya’s

*attitude

Autocorrect why

How

[polar oar]

i will respect ur opinion

go on

lemme go get a drink, incase i need to make a judgemental double take

hold on

alright back

[radiant meadow]

the difficulty of bosses varies with level

some bosses are easier in rev whereas others are easier in death

[red mist]

What if there was biome armor to go with the biome blade

[polar oar]

i feel like it'd be overshadowed by current progression armor

nobody really uses biome blade for its biome effects anyway, i feel

its more about the projectile

[radiant meadow]

nobody even uses biome blade or true biome blade tbh

the other options of the tier tend to perform better

[polar oar]

theres a period where biome blade is the best sword for melee users

[red mist]

Buff biome blade?

[polar oar]

isnt there

[radiant meadow]

biome blade used to be

when it was phm

[polar oar]

[radiant meadow]

but then again, melee isn't exactly that strong for cryogen in the first place

[polar oar]

doesnt have to be for cryogen

lul cryogen

[radiant meadow]

well, cryogen is generally considered the first hm boss

[polar oar]

lul cryogen nerfsssssss why was cryogen nerfed

he didnt need a nerf

[radiant meadow]

and biome blade is an early hm sword

cryogen was nerfed because the shield was annoying as hell in the derp phase tbh

[polar oar]

mossagon is preparing a healthy wall of text, i feel

if you used adrenaline it just killed him and the shield

instantly

depending on ur weapon

but every class could pop cryo at that stage

[radiant meadow]

adrenaline isn't always that effective

[polar oar]

it is if u use it right

[radiant meadow]

or you might not even have it if in expert

[polar oar]

i didnt even know cryogen had a derp phase in expert

[radiant meadow]

not everyone is even good enough to get it

[polar oar]

in that case, you're in expert

cant you facetank derp

[radiant meadow]

idk never tried

[polar oar]

also running in a straight line is foolproof vs cryogen

no skill needed

[ashen warren]

(Before you read this don’t take this in a bad way, just my input on this mods difficulty) really dislike calamitys balancing.
I feel like weapons, gear, accessories, and armor are all balanced around the hardest difficulty (death mode). This leads to all the easier difficulties feeling like the inferior way to play the mod due to how the balancing is set up. In my opinion everything should be rebalanced to make the mod relatively easy on normal mode, difficult on expert, hard on revengance, and insanely challenging on death. But currently how it stands is that normal is a massive pushover, expert is a pushover, revengance is underwhelming, then deathmode feels like a challenge. I just dislike the fact that half of the game modes in terms of difficulty are pushovers which makes them much more inferior in me and many other people’s eyes due to everything feeling way too strong.

[tropic yoke]

What should Abyssron's arms be? Should they be plated, smooth, gem-studded, or just straightup glowi- BLOCK

[radiant meadow]

that doesn't mean the nerf was unnecessary

and cryogen can do some pretty tight turns at times

[tropic yoke]

Much tex

[ashen warren]

Abyssrons arms?

[polar oar]

i feel like even base terraria expert mode is a huge pushover, though

you may simply be desensitized

[ashen warren]

Hey read the full thing before you talk of course

[radiant meadow]

I believe the mod is mostly balanced around Rev

[polar oar]

i did!

[radiant meadow]

not Death

[ashen warren]

Unless you read that really fast

Oh damn

[polar oar]

i was prepared to read a wall of text

i saw u typing

[radiant meadow]

and a recent update just made several things in rev hit a lot harder

[tropic yoke]

It's been up for 2 minutes and judging by an average of... 60 wpm...

[radiant meadow]

and another tank acc has been nerfed for the next version

[tropic yoke]

lmao fruity

[polar oar]

what are u lmaoing @

[tropic yoke]

Anyways, what should the arms be?

[polar oar]

hey now dont change topic u

u wanna fight

[tropic yoke]

Oh naw

[polar oar]

it didnt take me 2 minutes to read it

[tropic yoke]

Ur a gud reader then.

[polar oar]

i better be.

[tropic yoke]

idk what the average is.

[polar oar]

bich.

[tropic yoke]

damb

[radiant meadow]

If there's a fight, I can always slap warns

[polar oar]

ill fight U

[placid perch]

They aren't, they posted Abbyron and want feedback

[polar oar]

mr timekeep

[tropic yoke]

I think we're meming idk tho

[ashen warren]

But even if it’s balanced around rev that isn’t good, shouldn’t the mod be balanced around something that’s meant to be a average difficulty? Because revengance feels like an average difficulty when it’s apparently supposed to be hard, I think it’d be a excellent change if they balance the game around expert and make revengance more challenging and whatnot, but those are just my thoughts.

Also nice sprite as always Level 39

[polar oar]

you're implying calamity is balanced in the first place

[tropic yoke]

NMF

[polar oar]

never has been and never truly will be

i dont think

[weary walrus]

Calamity IS balanced by itself

[ashen warren]

That’s not true lmao

[weary walrus]

Just not balanced with other mods

[placid perch]

Nothing can ever be truly balanced, there is always one thing that gets nitpicked

[tropic yoke]

Calamity is like a roller coaster. Some parts are slow and anxiety-enducing as hell, and some other parts are lightning-fast rushes of excitement.

[ashen warren]

Calamity is all over the place in terms of balance

[radiant meadow]

Well, we are doing what we can

hence several nerfs to a shit ton of accs an update or two ago

in addition to the giant balancing update for weapons

[placid perch]

It's hard to make games, people should realize that

[polar oar]

yknow what isnt hard? removing the random boss spawns

hahaaaa

ok sorry

ill leave now

cya guys

[tropic yoke]

x'd

[weary walrus]

If you’re blaming the random boss spawn

[tropic yoke]

ono it looks sad

[weary walrus]

Blame redigit too

[tropic yoke]

x'D

There we go

Blame Arkhalis

[weary walrus]

Eoc, ks and mech bosses also spawn randomly

[ashen warren]

Also when I refer to balance I refer to what difficulty the game feels average in

[polar oar]

they spawn randomly

but not twice a night

and base game eoc spawn has restrictions

[tropic yoke]

Really?

[polar oar]

it wont spawn 1st night unless you get more than 200hp on the first day

[weary walrus]

Twice a night?

[ashen warren]

No not first day

[radiant meadow]

they shouldn't really spawn twice a night

[tropic yoke]

I've ground up dozens of EoCs in vanilla

[weary walrus]

Isn’t the spawn rate already nerfed?

[radiant meadow]

pretty sure it's been nerfed for that to be quite rare

[polar oar]

yes

but its still ridiculous

it went from infinity EOC's per first night to 2 EOC's per first night

[weary walrus]

Plus you got an 1 minute delay

And a warning

[placid perch]

2 in one night? That seems odd

[tropic yoke]

Remember that one time I said "What should Abyssron's arms be? Should they be plated, smooth, gem-studded, or just straightup glowing?" and we just started talking about death mode?

[ashen warren]

Vanilla EoC spawns when a player hits 200 hp at any time, hasn’t defeated him yet, and it’s only a 1/3 chance for every night you’ve met these conditions in

[weary walrus]

Also if you don’t wanna fight, recall trick exists

[placid perch]

Maybe try rocky nightmare

[tropic yoke]

like the top?

[placid perch]

His arms

[tropic yoke]

Yeah, rocks

[polar oar]

@weary walrus thats my whole argument right there

its tedious to avoid bossfights that you cant fight multiple times per night

when ur just trying to mind ur own business

[weary walrus]

Bosses don’t spawn underground do they?

[dusty stirrup]

this again?

[polar oar]

neither do fallen stars

also no

im about to leave

[placid perch]

I mean like all rocky and rugged

Also yes, it is this again

[cyan lagoon]

We are not starting this again

[polar oar]

ill defend this point every god dam day if i have to

[cyan lagoon]

It's over. Stop bringing it up

[placid perch]

^

[tropic yoke]

What's over?

[polar oar]

hrmph

[ashen warren]

If he has a problem let him bring it up

[placid perch]

The Death mode thing

[frank stratus]

um

[dusty stirrup]

well he only ever brings it up whenever he talks at this point

[polar oar]

oh its just that i've been bringing it up for the past hour and a half

nearly nonstop

[frank stratus]

can you not do it here at least though

[placid perch]

It's the 3rd time they've brought it up

[polar oar]

4th

[frank stratus]

like, it's the #suggestions-discussion

[eager palm]

So you admit you're at fault

Yet you keep doing it

[worthy raptor]

Can you just stop please, it's getting very old

[cyan lagoon]

No

[ashen warren]

Why go here

[cyan lagoon]

Stop it entirely

[ashen warren]

*there

[worthy raptor]

Can you don't minimod also

[ashen warren]

Oops

[tropic yoke]

That works too

[cyan lagoon]

And don't minimod, drones. There's already staff in here

[tropic yoke]

wow that does sound minimoddddy

Sorry

[ashen warren]

What a crime

[tropic yoke]

[ashen warren]

10 years in the dungeon

[tropic yoke]

ONO

Wait @cyan lagoon
Did you just call me drones?

What a god

[dusty stirrup]

everyone knows you're drones lol

[frank stratus]

e_e

[tropic yoke]

It's just really surprising

[ashen warren]

Mods calling members drones heh

[tropic yoke]

I've already gone through like 4 names and people still call me drones

[ashen warren]

Wait

You’re not a mod
Thought you were a mod

[radiant meadow]

you made an impression

[tropic yoke]

[weary walrus]

Good or bad tho

[ashen warren]

Drones is easier to type

[tropic yoke]

NMF c'mon

[dusty stirrup]

haha

[radiant meadow]

now back on topic y'all

[tropic yoke]

okie

[ashen warren]

I mean many people here are drones
Sheep
Pigs
Hive
Whatever you call it

[placid perch]

Rugged, sharp and rocky for the arms Nightmare, that's what I suggest it be

[tropic yoke]

What do you mean by nightmare?

[placid perch]

Your name is Nightmare Fuel

[weary walrus]

Your name?

[tropic yoke]

ahh

[weary walrus]

Fucking slow internet

[tropic yoke]

wow I don't respond to that.

[placid perch]

It's fine

[tropic yoke]

I guess Drones is the way to go

[weary walrus]

[radiant meadow]

the way to go is back on topic tbh

[polar oar]

if not ill just go to sleep now

[radiant meadow]

go to sleep

[polar oar]

ok cya

[placid perch]

Sleep

[polar oar]

goodnight uwu

[ashen warren]

Buff Vivid Calrity

[weary walrus]

Sleep tight

Just need to reduce its mana usage

100 mana per shot

Like wow

[ashen warren]

A no mana usage mana weapon

[weary walrus]

[ashen warren]

Endgame accessory that works like Flesh Totem but for magic

[weary walrus]

Wdym?

[ashen warren]

If you get hit, you lose (if you got it) the mana sickness debuff and regain all mana with the buff of having all mana expenditure halved, this effect only procks after (Insert time here) seconds after use.

[radiant meadow]

sounds interesting

how long is mana expenditure halved?

[ashen warren]

But it'd have to be a long time for obv reasons

Uh, ten/fifteen secs

Or maybe just 5

Something worth it, like Purijam, but not horrendously cheesy

Ten seconds sounds about right

But the wait time would have to be at least 5 times that

[weary walrus]

Hmm, does it worth it tho?

I mean you trade your hp for mana

[ashen warren]

HP for mana? Nah.

[radiant meadow]

hp for mana is more like magic cuffs

which this is not

[ashen warren]

I'd assume by the time you'd get it, that the damage inflicted by bosses would be catastrophic.

Easily post Provi

[lucid lava]

now im imagining an item that combines the ability to gain life based on damage dealt with with the ability to use hp instead of mana

[weary walrus]

Woah

[ashen warren]

Mage vampy knives

[lucid lava]

i got that from path of exile

[weary walrus]

That sound interesting

[ashen warren]

I'm all for it

[weary walrus]

A reference i see

[lucid lava]

yee

[ashen warren]

I don't think we have enough references in this mod.

[weary walrus]

We have touhou reference

Dark spark

[ashen warren]

We have a small metal gear rising reference

Ecks Dee

Dude calamity mod is just mg rising references lol

A small metal gear rising reference

very tiny

No not really

[lucid lava]

actually, an item like the one i mentioned above would go nicely with a spectre armor

[ashen warren]

Also when the health bars in the mod are from rising you can’t say it’s small

[radiant meadow]

there's several mgr references in the mod

[placid perch]

A small metal gear rising reference
MG weapon is in the game and you need the name Sam to use it pre-Yharon

[ashen warren]

Lol

There’s too many mg rising references imo, or atleast they’re too blatant

Make them subtle

I meant that in a joking manner, though judging by all of your reactions, the following is the only responsible response:
wooosh

I need actual friends someday.

makes hard to pick up joke that doesn’t have much comedy and people don’t pick up on it
WOOOOOOSH

[icy kelp]

can you guys choose a different channel for bickering about irrelevant topics?

[ashen warren]

Sure thing ‘drone’

Mossagon starts it.

[placid perch]

We all started it

[ashen warren]

Big smart.

It all started when this server was made

So, a mana flesh totem?

Wheeze

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren You're going to need to be 400% more specific

[ashen warren]

Ok sure even though it’s pretty obvious

[hollow shell]

It absolutely is not
In fact I don't think you could be any more vague

[ashen warren]

Fix multiplayer. It's that simple.

[dim kestrel]

It's nowhere near simple 😩

[ashen warren]

Exactly!

[dusty stirrup]

if only

[ashen warren]

Ok ‘fixed’ it

[hollow shell]

Lag is the issue?

[icy kelp]

Unless you can specify what needs fixing, the devs would have no idea how to go about fixing this “issue”

[ashen warren]

Fix the mechworm

[dusty stirrup]

lemme press my trusty all-use button to fix everything

[ashen warren]

Or HOTE

[placid perch]

Lag = Your computer if it's multiplayer almost all the time

[ashen warren]

I’ll just delete it so people don’t fuss over it

Big smart there.

[dusty stirrup]

I mean people wouldn't really fuss over it if it was clear

[ashen warren]

If you say so

[dusty stirrup]

[ashen warren]

[tropic yoke]

[ashen warren]

I remember tryna create an astral crabulon once, spikes are the way to go

Nice prof pic btw

[tropic yoke]

:P

[ashen warren]

Oh

[tropic yoke]

How're the claws anyways

[ashen warren]

Pretty good, maybe a bit too good

[tropic yoke]

Time for the bottom claws

[ashen warren]

Those are little nubs iirc

[hollow shell]

I asked in the dev server and I'll ask here too
I noticed that a lot of suggestions were reaching 50 stars and getting delivered, like almost half of them if not more than half, so I'm wondering...

Opinions on raising the required star count to 60~65, so that devs are able to focus more on what suggestions do get delivered?

[lost agate]

I think its ok

[ashen warren]

I blame drones and his quality sprites.

[lucid lava]

id be ok with even 75

[ashen warren]

But really, 50 seems okay.

[radiant meadow]

another raise?

[dusty stirrup]

65 would be more appropriate yes

[hollow shell]

Drones does get sent often but of course he isn't the majority of em

[ashen warren]

I rescind that then

[radiant meadow]

is the dev server still flooded?

[ashen warren]

But perhaps, since the community is growing, a raise would be required.

[hollow shell]

It's always flooded and will continue to get more flooded as time goes on
that is, if the star requirement isn't raised

Yeah, because the server population is only growing

[lost agate]

Imo its fine

If more people see suggestions i dont see them struggling reaching that milestone 🤷

[hollow shell]

?

Are you saying to keep it at 50 or raise it?

[lost agate]

Raise it

[hollow shell]

Oh

[tropic yoke]

omo

[hollow shell]

I was confused

[tropic yoke]

Raise it to what?

[hollow shell]

60 to 65ish

[lost agate]

Yeah my wording isnt the best

[tropic yoke]

Oh

[hollow shell]

Probably 65

[tropic yoke]

I could still get all mine in

[ashen warren]

I'd have to start putting effort in mine .

[tropic yoke]

Heh heh

[ashen warren]

And this channel here would get flooded, cuz others ask for critique on their sprites more often.

You back on art server yet?

[hollow shell]

Nah he's not going back for a longwhile if ever

due to punishment evasion

[ashen warren]

Wha? Is it rude to ask what his original ban was?

I know he got banned from one for a recolor. But...

[hollow shell]

Not sure if it was a ban or a mute but iirc it was just bad behavior

Could be wrong

either way
irrelevant to the star-raisin' convo

[sleek wadi]

Speaking of stars, my mana orb suggestion is just 5 off ;-;

[ashen warren]

I starred

[hollow shell]

Mana Orb got sent tho?

[sleek wadi]

Doesn't have a check

[ashen warren]

And my coconut staff hasn't even got a check despite it being over 50.

[hollow shell]

It does tho?

(to Mecha)

[ashen warren]

Wait, is the 65 change effective immediately?

If so. Ouch.

[hollow shell]

If it gets implemented then
probably

[radiant meadow]

It's not decided yet

[sleek wadi]

If it does have a check, it isn't showing up on my screen.

[radiant meadow]

but when it gets implemented, it is effective immediately

[hollow shell]

We might do it so that all suggestions prior to the point of implementation only need 50

but all ones made after need 65

[radiant meadow]

yeah

[hollow shell]

So as to not
"cheat" people out of bein delivered

out of unluck

[sleek wadi]

Yeah the change shouldn't be retroactive.

[radiant meadow]

similar situation when the star req was raised from 35 to 50

[lucid lava]

im currently trying to construct the idea i had earlier

[ashen warren]

So, I guess pin a message in suggestions saying that it's 65 now.

[hollow shell]

Yeah, when it happens

if

[radiant meadow]

well, I'll be ready to pin if it happens in the next hour or so

[lost agate]

As we said, it wont affect suggestion made before the change

[radiant meadow]

if you already posted it, the limit would be 50

[hollow shell]

(Fire In Spurts staff delivered)

Yeah

[ashen warren]

Yay thx.

[hollow shell]

Also it was already delivered, Lance, so you're safe either way

[ashen warren]

Really, I Oh.

Well, thanks anyways.

[hollow shell]

(We have received Coconut Gun suggestions in the past, so good on you for bein a bit more original about it) :P

[tropic yoke]

oof

[ashen warren]

I just want wood to be used, it's useless unless it's spooky.

[tropic yoke]

How original is the flesh golem?

Besides the whole mini ravager

idea

[hollow shell]

There was a similar Ravager-like enemy suggested a long time ago
by BlackHand iirc

but his was a stationary pillar rather than a mini-Ravager

[tropic yoke]

hm

[ashen warren]

Mini Bosses. Hah

[tropic yoke]

Imagine respriting the eidolist to be abyss-palette-friendly

[ashen warren]

I wonder who here specializes in abyss spriting.

[hollow shell]

I prefer Eidolist's current palette
I like that its fleshier and bluer than the full wyrms, makes it looks more like a larval stage

[ashen warren]

Resprites are least concern tho, so yea.

[hollow shell]

So, verdict on raising?
It seemed like there were more in favor than against but there weren't too many participants
Should there be a poll, maybe?

[ashen warren]

Put in suggestions maybe?

[tropic yoke]

Palette change poll?

Lemme finish my eidolon recolorsprite

[hollow shell]

I'm nervous to cuz I feel like the public will just be "no way cuz then my suggestion wont get in!!"
but
this could be unfounded...

[ashen warren]

So making a public poll would be different?

Or would it go in announcements?

[tropic yoke]

Have it slowly crawl up over the next few days or so.

See how long it keeps going up.

[hollow shell]

Nah it wouldn't go in announcements, too far

[ashen warren]

It looks like suggestions would be the best way?

[tropic yoke]

gets less than 60 likes.

Here...

[hollow shell]

I just meant that
putting the poll in #suggestions-voting would probably reach a bigger audience than putting it in here

Good thing?

iunno

[sleek wadi]

If you're gonna place it anywhere, suggestions is the place it should be. That chat is probably less muted.

[tropic yoke]

"If this post gets more than 100 ⭐s, future suggestions will require 60 ⭐s to be sent to the dev server."

Just a format

[hollow shell]

I was uhh

thinking Strawpoll

[tropic yoke]

straw?

[hollow shell]

poll

the website

[tropic yoke]

oh

[ashen warren]

Pulling straws. Hah. Big funny.

[tropic yoke]

Are there bots that can react to how many reactions a post gets?

[ashen warren]

Yes, but don't try it.

[tropic yoke]

It'd be neat if there was a suggestion-related leveling system.

[sleek wadi]

We've tried making one, it broke a lot and seems to be abandoned.

[tropic yoke]

Aww

[hollow shell]

We tried using such a bot to automatically deliver suggestions

Didn't work

[ashen warren]

I think, long ago, there was an abyssal invasion. Would invasions count as a valid suggestion?

[hollow shell]

Yes, those are fine

[tropic yoke]

Abyssal invasion?

[hollow shell]

Very unlikely to get in but it will be delivered..

[ashen warren]

Aquatic horde or something

[tropic yoke]

Oh yeah, fab hates events.

[hollow shell]

(wasn't Aquatic Horde a Terraria april fools joke?)

[ashen warren]

Pillars are the best.

[tropic yoke]

idk people said it was serious

Ooh... Have the abyssal invasion be based off of pacific wim, with a portal that summons stronger and stronger enemies, kind of like OOA

wim

x'D

[ashen warren]

And a final miniboss is Amidas, resurrected Silva, Or the eidolon wyrm. If it ever gets in. It referring to the event, only the Eidolon worm is actually in.

English + 100

If you can fix the problem that invasions have where they are completely terrible then I'll be impressed

Easy, game scaling enemies that are only the nebula and vortex AI and projectiles.

As in, making them fun

In that case, I'd recommend just deleting the pillars and forgetting they existed.

[hollow shell]

@lucid lava Include a reason why you think that should be implemented

[lucid lava]

i guess i shoulda thought of that too