suggestions-discussion

[little talon]

Yes, exactly that.

[radiant meadow]

except claws are just really short, fast swords though?

[ashen warren]

Tbh the only claw I can see working is a post-pillar set

The crab claws are great until HM, fetid are good until around plantera-ish and then there're mantis claws which I've never used seriously

[little talon]

This class is mostly for those that prefer to face-tank.

You don't need that extra reach, so why not exchanging it for faster DPS?

[ashen warren]

face-tank, in calamity
ok then

[little talon]

Well, then why else would that accessory that boosts your stats if you stand still exist if face tanking wasn't viable?

[radiant meadow]

mantis claws are outclassed by fetid

[earnest raptor]

Why?

Explosion?

[radiant meadow]

yeah

it gives i frames which can interrupt the attack

[ashen warren]

Why everyone confuse cosmilite with cosmolite?

[unique vector]

bc they have really similar names

[sleek wadi]

Pronounced the same too.

[marsh gust]

like cosmilite and cosmolight

[earnest raptor]

The Gunslinger
Post-EoW/BoC NPC
Possible names: Quote, Traveler, Ranger, Rob

Vendors a upgradeable weapons through all game. Have a four shops for melee, ranged, magic and rogue stuffs.

Initially: Amber Staff, Water Bolt, Light's Bane/Blood Butcher, Seashell Boomerang, Vilethorn, Crystalline, Sky Glaze
Post-Skeletron: Handgun, Fiery Greatsword, Blade of Grass.

Other items come later.

[ashen warren]

Uh.

Why?

You can get half of those pretty easy, and the other half are meant to be made for a crafting recipe of some sort.

[ashen warren]

@little talon I really like your idea, mind if I add on to it?

[tropic yoke]

Should I make a small version of crabulon that's abyss-themed?

[fervent sky]

Sounds neat

[tropic yoke]

:P

[fervent sky]

Abyssulon

[tropic yoke]

I dun did a notice earlier...

[fervent sky]

Yeah?

Oh

[tropic yoke]

Figured I'd make a version that's natural, but there'd be nowhere to put it, so the abyss it is!

One of the crabs got lucky and made it into the abyss.

Heh

[fervent sky]

Maybe it could be a miniboss?

[tropic yoke]

That's my thought, considering the abyss is known for them.

Eww I just noticed what Crabulon's eyes were. Gross

[ashen warren]

take a shot for every recommendation that's abyss themed

[tropic yoke]

I thought it was the blue thing in the middle.

My internet is finna braek

Either that or discord itself

[fervent sky]

@ashen warren there are a lot

[ashen warren]

also im bored

[tropic yoke]

I've made 3 myself

[ashen warren]

What would be a cool rouge weapon desgin

*rogue

[tropic yoke]

Another beam, like the mycoroot and cosmic kunai

[ashen warren]

Eh, I don't find those weapons very interesting or rogue like

[tropic yoke]

I think they're cool

[ashen warren]

I'll think of something in that aspect

[tropic yoke]

Rapid death-sickle

with a big spread.

Kinda like slime god mines.

[ashen warren]

Hm

What about it should be a plantera and or golem weapon

Rogue lacks there

[ashen warren]

Yeah I know you made an idea

[tropic yoke]

:3

[ashen warren]

But I want a shot at it

[tropic yoke]

Terra scythe?

[ashen warren]

Also we can't just have one rogue weapon per stage in the game, also thats a good idea

[tropic yoke]

True paladin hammer, Beetle (maybe) yours (maybe) pwnage hammer, flame scythe

etc.

Actually a nice deal of options for rogue

[ashen warren]

Not compared to any normal classes though

[glossy bough]

so I got a suggestion

Biocombustion Engine
“It uses an alternate fuel source.”

Flight mechanics are the same as a Moab. Flying leaves a wake of plagued clouds that apply a stacking virus. The virus’s DPS is equal to the function «D(t) = (3)c-(0.5)t» where D(t) is the DPS of the debuff since the enemy hits its first plague cloud, t is the elapsed time in seconds, and c is the total amount of plague clouds an enemy hits.

Recipe: «Moab (1), Plague Cell Canister (15), Beetle Shell (5), Soul of Flight (20)» at a Mythril Anvil

: It would be supremely fun to have a set of wings that can be used as a passive offense.

[tropic yoke]

«

???

[glossy bough]

alt+"

[ashen warren]

Sounds good

[glossy bough]

ok

then I'll sprite it

[tropic yoke]

oh boi

[ashen warren]

oh boi?

[glossy bough]

[arctic notch]

[sleek wadi]

Mana Orbs
An Astral Infection consumable item. It'd increase mana by 10 for each use, can only be used 10 times and when you have max base mana. Starts spawning in the underground Astral Infection after the player collects the 3 mech souls. Essentially it's a mana counterpart to Life Fruits.

As it stands the Astral Infection has no use outside of 2 upgrades and Stardust. The underground infection has it worse as all it really does is serve as a stop-gap for the other spread biomes. There also aren't as many max mana upgrades as there are health upgrades so this would solve both of those problems.

[tropic yoke]

Ooh bringing use to the underground astral infction.

remove the s in Life Fruits... put the before the, well, section... That's all I have.

[radiant meadow]

@opal urchin they aren't
Alpha Ray requires dark sun fragments which are post Yharon phase 1

[opal urchin]

i miss read the wiki, my bad lol

[radiant meadow]

it is weird that it still uses Ancient manipulator though

[sleek wadi]

Also, it's requirement being the 3 souls instead of either the elemental trio or mech trio means any combination of the 2 will net you more mana upgrades 👌

[tropic yoke]

Hey, what separates the GSS from bosses?

[cyan lagoon]

Its not a boss tho

[tropic yoke]

It's summoned with criteria, it drops good weapons, it has a lot of health and attacks and such...

[ashen warren]

iT FDROPS WEAPONS?

[cyan lagoon]

No it doesmt

[ashen warren]

Heck, caps.

[tropic yoke]

scale whatever/

[sleek wadi]

It drops a material for a lot of weapons.

[cyan lagoon]

It drops materials

[tropic yoke]

Bosses drop materials

[ashen warren]

Sand elemental is now a boss.

[tropic yoke]

Is it actually, or is that just you bein' you?

[ashen warren]

It's me being an ass

[sleek wadi]

GSS is a boss in all but name and theme. Kinda got that slot robbed by Astrum Aureus/Profaned Nuggets who's a mini-boss in all but name

[ashen warren]

I dunno why it isn't a boss, eidolon isn't either.

The abyss enemies and sharks/elementals aren't important enough I guess.

[sleek wadi]

All the elementals are at minimum a mini-boss, so they're kinda important.

Well, all except 2 being Granite and Ice.

[ashen warren]

Chaos Chaos...

[sleek wadi]

Oh yeah, Chaos Elementals. Okay nevermind, all but 3.

[ashen warren]

I dunno if chaos is actually an elemental, BC all of the 'Official' elementals are the waifus from the HOTE

Also cosmic elemental.

Ooh

How about an early HM HOTE?

Using the smaller elementals

[sleek wadi]

Rock of the Elements, summons the lesser-elementals and Earth Elemental.

[ashen warren]

Hm

Shard of the Elements

[sleek wadi]

Gives immunity to suffication and traps, that'd be about it.

[ashen warren]

Maybe increased mining speed (Granite), one second off of chaos state (Chaos), attacks have a chance to inflict armor crunch (Earth)

What about cosmic and ice?

What does cosmic even do?

[sleek wadi]

Cosmic Elemental drops rare swords sometimes.

[round falcon]

Cosmic has a chance to grant Striking Moment when the player is hit

[ashen warren]

Hot?

Ah

[round falcon]

"when the player is hot"

[ashen warren]

It'd never work on me

[round falcon]

⚔

[sleek wadi]

Ah, so during fire debuffs.

[ashen warren]

Ice, what about ice

[sleek wadi]

Ice could inflict glacial state.

[round falcon]

Inflicts Glacial State/ allows your attacks to possible inflict Glacial State?

[ashen warren]

How about immunity to early flames debuffs

Like On Fire!

[sleek wadi]

Immunity to Burning, On Fire!, Shadowflame, and most importantly Frostfire

[ashen warren]

Hm

Well, I dunno about shadowflame, as you'd want to fight the Goblins early on, and that would take away the one thing they had going for them

[round falcon]

they don't inflict shadowflame?

[glossy bough]

Biocombustion Engine
“It uses an alternate fuel source.”

Flight mechanics are the same as a Moab. Flying leaves a wake of plagued clouds that apply a stacking virus. The virus’s DPS is equal to the function «D(t) = (3)c-(0.5)t» where D(t) is the DPS of the debuff since the enemy hits its first plague cloud, t is the elapsed time in seconds, and c is the total amount of plague clouds an enemy hits.

Recipe: «Moab (1), Plague Cell Canister (15), Beetle Shell (5), Soul of Flight (20)» at a Mythril Anvil

: It would be supremely fun to have a set of wings that can be used as a passive offense.

[sleek wadi]

Goblins aren't even a threat with Shadowflame as a grant total of 0 enemies inflict it. So actually shadowflame immunity is pointless.

[tropic yoke]

Ooh not bad

[fervent sky]

@glossy bough Looks neat to me

[glossy bough]

slowly but surely, I'm becoming half-decent at spriting

should I post it?

[fervent sky]

Sure

[tropic yoke]

It's a recolor, but it's one of the better ones I've seen.
You have my approval

👍

[glossy bough]

I'm honored

[tropic yoke]

lmao

[ashen warren]

Thermal thruster flashbacks

[glossy bough]

well we can see NMF's demon-spider-tier spriting in his pfp

[frosty kindle]

it’s like Jetpack Joyride all over again!

[glossy bough]

ah but instead of high-velocity bullets, it leaves plague mines

[ashen warren]

This looks great for chip damaging DOG or eidolon wyrm

I mean, you have a free source of damage whilst firing your own weapon

[glossy bough]

well weapons are also a free source of damage

[tepid root]

[round falcon]

[ashen warren]

That'd be cheesing tho, so no weapons, just use the jetpack

[glossy bough]

how is it cheesing? The jetpack deals minimal DPS unless you can lead it perfectly

[ashen warren]

It isn't. I just am bad at humor.

[glossy bough]

oh ok

yeah sarcasm isn't transmitted through text without a

[ashen warren]

Sure.

[frosty kindle]

@sudden ether Mortar and Rubber Mortar rounds break blocks, and can be fired by guns

[sudden ether]

oh cool

I was hoping for something a little more earlygame though

[frosty kindle]

Then you can specify about it on the same message

Say that it should be accessible pre-HM, and some preliminary stats, how effective it can break blocks etc.

[sudden ether]

the original message was just a general idea, since I didnt know that these existed

I wanna see how dumb these are with a super fast gun tho

p90 is attack speed cap right

[frosty kindle]

Have you seen rubber mortar rounds with the Halibut cannon?

[round falcon]

No but now I'm interested

[sudden ether]

i have not

[earnest raptor]

Rework of Hellkite
Summoner-melee combined weapon
If you holds a sword, you buffs with "Drake Spirit" - fiery Stardust Dragon-like summon.
Initially summon doesn't attack enemies, but it can be targeted by unique debuff: "Drake Flames".

It inflicted by Hellkite itself, to 20 seconds. Their deal DoT as "In Fire!".

Drake summon deal 35% damage of sword.

: On Post-Planter exists a more powerful tru meme weapons, then Hellkite remains only as material for Terratomere. Their rework can be add more viability to weapon itself.

[sleek wadi]

Rubber Mortar Rounds with Halibut is a great way to blow up your world.

[earnest raptor]

Decent?

[round falcon]

Interesting concept.

[earnest raptor]

Gameplay with it come like "swing the sword, anger the drake, drake eats enemy"

[glossy bough]

grammar needs some work tbh @earnest raptor

Something like this:

Rework of Hellkite
Summoner-melee combined weapon
If you hold the sword, you gain the buff "Drake Spirit", which summons a fiery Stardust Dragon-like summon.
Initially the summon doesn't attack enemies, but it can inflict a unique debuff: "Drake Flames".

If inflicted by Hellkite itself, the debuff lasts 20 seconds. It deals the same DoT as "On Fire!".

Drake summon deals 35% damage of sword.

: Post-Plantera has much more powerful true melee weapons, and Hellkite remains only as material for Terratomere. This rework is to add more viability to weapon.

[weary walrus]

Well the summon should ignore i frame for best dps

To compensate give it low base damage

[glossy bough]

ew god OP

[sleek wadi]

Geological Elemental Gem
Summons the lesser elementals to fight for you!
Summons the Granite, Ice, Cosmic, Chaos, and Earth Elementals

Ice Elemental orbits the player and shoots projectiles
Granite Elemental acts the same as the blood clots/dank creepers
Cosmic Elemental has a chance to leave a sword in the enemy, dealing DoT. The rarer the sword, the more damage the DoT deals.
Chaos elemental rams enemies before teleporting back to the player
Earth Elemental acts the same as his enemy counterpart but faster
Each elemental can only attack the same enemy twice per second, they have a separate invuln timer.

Crafted at HM anvil with:
1 Arid Artifact
5 Frigid Bars
Any Cosmic Elemental drop
1 Key of Light
50 Smooth Granite
1 Large Diamond

A post-Cryogen summoner accessory that gives you additional DPS and nothing else, a sort of mini-HotE. I'm not sure how well summoner does in early-HM but it probably isn't great so this can help alleviate that problem.

[radiant meadow]

it looks cool

[weary walrus]

👍

[radiant meadow]

early hm summoner is doable but a boost is appreciated

[weary walrus]

Spider summon really sucks

[radiant meadow]

that's why you use claspers

[weary walrus]

Since you’ll have to use it until you get clasper

[ashen warren]

Wait why does everyone put that brimstone elemental emote in their suggestions

[sleek wadi]

Because it's called : why :

[weary walrus]

Because it means why

[delicate raft]

= Reason

[weary walrus]

👆

[radiant meadow]

people like emotes over words I guess

[ashen warren]

Yeah but why is why?

[weary walrus]

Ask the server owner

[delicate raft]

Cuz face

[radiant meadow]

because the face looks like it's judging you?

[weary walrus]

It does actually

[ashen warren]

So no reason I’m guessing
I don’t care, just wanted to know what it meant

[lost agate]

wow rude

[ashen warren]

How is that rude?

[radiant meadow]

more like we are starting to veer off topic

back to the elemental suggestion now

[ashen warren]

Yeah but it’s a bit annoying when someone calls you something for not reason without an explanation

So of course I’m going to ask

[weary walrus]

Those summons ignore each other i frame right?

[radiant meadow]

probably, like hote

[sleek wadi]

Yes

[weary walrus]

Should this thing gives you some stats buff?

Like hote

[earnest raptor]

To compensate give it low base damage
Drake summon even without equip deal more damage, that one segmented Stardust Dragon, lul.

[sleek wadi]

It's a mini, early-HM HotE so it giving buffs might be too strong.

However, I am planning 2 upgrades for it.

1 that's post-Golem that gives buffs while powering up the elementals, and another one post-DoG that combines it with HotE.

[weary walrus]

How about add spirit glyph to its recipe

So that it will give you some minimum buff

Also spirit glyph only useful until you get the emblem

[sudden ether]

rate this: super dummy moved to earlier

[sleek wadi]

Already sent to devs IIRC.

[weary walrus]

^

[sleek wadi]

I think I'd add Spirit Glyph to the post-Golem upgrade.

[radiant meadow]

add that the hellkite thingy does not proc rev+ summoner nerf

[weary walrus]

Yeah

[earnest raptor]

It doesnt proc them.

Because drake instantly die after switching weapon

[weary walrus]

[sleek yew]

[sudden ether]

"If inflicted by Hellkite itself, the debuff lasts 20 seconds." what other weapons proc it then?

[sleek yew]

oh yeah btw should i repost my suggestion about adding all versions of the mod to #mod-downloads

[weary walrus]

Don’t repost

[sleek wadi]

Could be inherited by Terratomere and Exoblade.

[radiant meadow]

that might not happen

I don't think old versions are saved

typically anyways

[weary walrus]

I have pre planetoid version

[sleek yew]

i found 1.1.7.01 on the forums

also fab's mediafire account might still have them saved

[sleek wadi]

I'll post the Geological Elemental Gem suggestion tomorrow. I'd rather not clog suggestions at the moment. Will rename it to Geomental Gem as well.

[earnest raptor]

@sudden ether fixed

[sleek wadi]

That hellkite rework should specify whether or not the drake is inherited by Terratomere and Exoblade. Also if it is inherited, the drake should be longer in the upgrades.

[earnest raptor]

Added.

[sudden quail]

Pass on the Brawler class. WeaponOut already has it, and I think it's already done pretty well

[earnest raptor]

No.

Seven weapons are still unobtainable.

[earnest raptor]

Healing Water
Quickly restores 100 life
Have a much lesser cooldown
Instead of a instant heal, this potion give a buff "Quick Heal" to 10 seconds, which regenerate 10 hp/s (ignores regular life regen stst).
What's purpose of this potion?
"Potion Sickness" lasts only 35 seconds (≈28 with Philospher Stone).

Craft: 1 Healing Potion + 3 Cryonic Ore @ Alchemy Table

And also, Greater Healing Water, which heals 150 hp and have 32 sec cooldown. (Greater Healing Potion + 9 Cryonic Ore @ Ancient Manipulator)

[pliant bone]

Less than half the time it takes to use another Healing potion

Idk but that seems pretty overpowered.

[faint rivet]

But won't be beneficial once you get 250 heal pots

[ashen warren]

This outclasses super healing potions

I'd reduce the amount healed or make potion sickness around 40 seconds

[faint rivet]

Ok barely better than super heals

[ashen warren]

It's better than super healing potions and you get it after hive mind/perforator

[pliant bone]

Reducing its life regen doesnt rly change much unless you are getting hit all over the place

[earnest raptor]

Edited.

[ashen warren]

"Greater Healing Water" crafted with what?

[pliant bone]

I'd say it shouldnt outclass Greater healing potion or make it a hardmode potion

[earnest raptor]

Okay.

Exoted.

Eh, okay, it's are bad idea.

[weary walrus]

That’s cool

But why it needs so many bars

How about, making this thing stops healing when you get hit

So that it’s a fair trade

@earnest raptor sorry for pinging

[tropic yoke]

O.o

Cool idea bobylev. I would love to see the hellkite get a buff.

[weary walrus]

Why I’m getting notifications in here?

[glossy bough]

idk

@hollow shell https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/534563233508491304

[weary walrus]

Is pinging a mod a good idea tho?

[glossy bough]

only if you don't spam it

[weary walrus]

I mean they will eventually check the suggestions

[glossy bough]

ok

can't remove the ping though bc shadow ping is ass

[weary walrus]

[quiet abyss]

Oh dear, all those 50+ stars suggestions
Please wait warmly while they're being ported one by one.

[faint rivet]

[glossy bough]

[heavy mural]

Suggestion: A memes channel

[eager palm]

lol.

[marsh gust]

ha. ha. ha.

[fossil torrent]

great. suggestion.

🗿

[glossy bough]

please

suggested

[quiet abyss]

@glossy bough Can you not

Delete that please

...Alrighty then, have a warn.
Don't do it next time.

[glossy bough]

oh sorry

yeah ok

[red mist]

Suggestion: Create upgrades to the snowball cannon from the snow biome so that it can be great in hardmode. I suggest that later down the line, you can combine it with a rocket launcher so alongside the snowballs it shoots, it also shoots white rockets that hit your enemies

[weary walrus]

Combine with snowman cannon

It fits the snowy theme

Also make the snowball cannon craftable would be great

[red mist]

yass

[weary walrus]

Wait

This give me an idea

SNOWSTORM CANNON
Fires a barrage of non-concentrated snowballs which aren’t affected by gravity while occasionally shoots out homing snowman rockets. Each of its projectiles shot out has a chance to inflict Chilled debuff.
Recipe: Snowball cannon + Snowman Cannon + 10 Core of Eleum + 50 snow blocks + 10 enchanted metal @ Hardmode anvil
Use Snowball as ammo

[red mist]

for the no gravity effect, mix it with the moon lord expert item

[weary walrus]

Nah no need

Thanks for the idea Ultimate

[red mist]

Np

Maybe it could also have a midstage where you mix the snowball cannon with frigid bars from cryogen

[weary walrus]

Lol i was editing while you said it

[red mist]

lol

[round falcon]

When do you expect people to pick this up?

[tropic yoke]

Hello

[weary walrus]

Hmm I’m trying to think of its upgrade but i need something special

Post plantera?

[round falcon]

So instantly upgrade the Snowman Cannon.

[weary walrus]

Yeah

[round falcon]

Weird flex but ok

[weary walrus]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eager palm]

As if anyone uses the cannon

[round falcon]

Make it cores

[tropic yoke]

^

Cores?

[weary walrus]

Oh yeah

Core of elium

[faint rivet]

I believe that's what they're tying to change ro🅱

[tropic yoke]

Cores?

[round falcon]

Cores of Eleum

[weary walrus]

Am I misspelling it?

Oh

[faint rivet]

Eleum

[red mist]

Fren give me core plz

[tropic yoke]

Here ya’ go

[weary walrus]

Fixed

.-.

So we have core weapon variant for melee and mage

[tropic yoke]

And ranged

[weary walrus]

Can you make a sprite it? The cannon?

It would be great

[ashen warren]

Gotta love the "Bazing Blaze"

[weary walrus]

Misspelled?

[frail mantle]

Bazinga Blaze

[ashen warren]

The R looks like a B because of font choice

[weary walrus]

It kinda is

[round falcon]

Bazingoing away

[ashen warren]

Hence, people pointing it out previously and joking going on

[tropic yoke]

Eidolon reaver, anchor, fishing pole, and bait...

[heavy mural]

You mean the Bazinga Blade

@tropic yoke I've got an Idea

[tropic yoke]

.-.

[heavy mural]

Betsy weapons

But upgraded Post DoG

Betsy Weapons are overall great for their point in the game, all able to deal quite a bit a damage, as well as a great debuff, being able to upgrade these to a point that doesn't really even have to be post DoG just like Post prov due to maybe a Holy Flame upgrade to the Fire Dragon just seems like a cool concept

[tropic yoke]

Extending betsy weapons is a cool idea

[heavy mural]

I talked to you about this because you're an amazing Spriter and can bring these ideas to life

[tropic yoke]

:D

Im working on a biggo abyss enemy rn

[heavy mural]

[tropic yoke]

I’m also at school

I could probably make some weapons tho

[regal jasper]

what do people think about having throwing weapons and rogue weapons be different classes mechanically, with throwing being exclusively consumables that take resources use, either through buying more ammo or making more of them, while rogue weapons are the "infinite use" case that most weapons are now?

[tropic yoke]

They’d both have to have major content overhauls then.

Probably not tho

[heavy mural]

Tarragon Darts hmmm

[tropic yoke]

Big sad

[heavy mural]

Consumables are bad

[tropic yoke]

Can’t argue there

[regal jasper]

mostly because i really enjoyed using a combination of mods for throwing damage, and just noticing the rogue damage now is really harshing y style

what's wrong with consumable throwables?

[heavy mural]

They're usually not that good

And if you're unlucky they'll disappear faster from your inventory faster than KS health Post Ml

[regal jasper]

i know, that's why i'm wondering if an overhaul might be in line to make using them actually worthwhile, aside from rare edge cases like beenades being busted as hell

like, no more chance to pick up used ones, so armor that reduces consumption like vanilla fossil armor for throwing is slightly buffed like that

because compare to ranged, right, where you have mostly ammo and very rarely get things that don't use ammo

[heavy mural]

Photoeviscerator

[regal jasper]

i mean, when can you get the photoviscerator and compare to stuff like storm surge i meant

and ammunition consumption isn't a concern at all past hardmode with having a backup endless musket pouch

[glad kraken]

Bring back Astrageldon

[frail mantle]

n o

why the trash panda

[glad kraken]

Because that made me mad

[tropic yoke]

Ok?

[frail mantle]

i advice you to

[glad kraken]

Okay

[tropic yoke]

Advise lmao

I just took an entire test and there were only 2 messages to read and they weren’t even good smh

Would I be allowed to suggest that the Crystyl Crusher get a nerf or are dev items nonnegotiable?

[frail mantle]

i think you can make suggestions about dev items, you just cant suggest the items themselves

[tropic yoke]

Ok

Cool

Because 5000% power is just insensible as it cuts off other mods with ore progression past... 300% and making post-S-Cal ores would be a pain

[heavy mural]

Imagine having mods Post Scal

[tropic yoke]

It could happen some day

You never know

[heavy mural]

It already has

[tropic yoke]

Lmao

[heavy mural]

EA

[tropic yoke]

I hate EA with its creepers

Iirc creepers are in EA mod

[heavy mural]

Spirit of Purity

[tropic yoke]

Don’t dis the example mod like that how dare u grr

[heavy mural]

No u

[lost agate]

I think dev item suggestion are ok

But they get ignored

[heavy mural]

Make Crusher faster xd

[hasty wigeon]

^

[ashen warren]

I say calamity’s dev team partners with EA to paylock all post hardmode mod bosses

[heavy mural]

Death Mode Spirit of Purity

[frail mantle]

@lavish lily do you mean make Adrenaline deal less damage in exchange for more melee speed? because then it would just be a "hey fuck you" to every class except melee

[lavish lily]

Not just melee

[hasty wigeon]

Firing Speed affects all weapons..?

[lavish lily]

Every class

[hasty wigeon]

"Use time"

[calm onyx]

What about summons?

[ashen warren]

Only reason bullet hell bosses are hard in terraria is because terraria’s mechanics are 100X floatier then you’d want in a bullet hell boss

[lavish lily]

Summons

[hasty wigeon]

Spirit of purity bubble thingy

[lavish lily]

Good question

[hasty wigeon]

Ignore more I frames

[heavy mural]

You can only ignore so much

[hasty wigeon]

What about guns with use time of 1

[lavish lily]

I'd say let summons keep the current attack damage

[quiet abyss]

If you're going to make everything attack faster with adrenaline/make adrenaline even more powerful please do note the balance change that would have occured.
As well as all the testing required that comes along with it.

[lavish lily]

It was just a thought I had

[heavy mural]

Also Adrenaline is a rush of energy that lead to more Power

So like lifting a car

Not punching a wall twice as fast

[lavish lily]

That I can agree with

[heavy mural]

So you agree with keeping adrenaline the same

[lavish lily]

Pretty much

Also why can't I see the suggestions channel?

[quiet abyss]

You can't see #suggestions-voting ?

[bitter topaz]

can't you get banned from #suggestions-voting specifically?

if anyone actually remembers adir, he met that fate iirc

[quiet abyss]

Eeyup, you can

[untold gulch]

the rumors on adir are actually making me curious
i wanna see what one of his suggestions looks like

[heavy mural]

Who adir

[bitter topaz]

the #suggestions-voting "god"

[ruby cobalt]

CTRL+F

[frail mantle]

i thought that was GBrad

[bitter topaz]

nah gbrad was just the "epic calamity facts god" and was nowhere near as bad as adir

[frail mantle]

did you never see GBrad's epic suggestion

"nerf normal mode king slime"

[heavy mural]

Yes.

[quiet abyss]

Try adir’s

[bitter topaz]

^
adir is on a tier of his own

[frail mantle]

i can't even find his messages lmao

[untold gulch]

^

[quiet abyss]

His suggestions are like gbradley, but add the fact that he cant speak english well too.
Incorrect sentence structures and all that.

[heavy mural]

[bitter topaz]

here's an example of one of his "better" suggestions

[untold gulch]

please give me an example of a bad one
that isnt bad enough

[frail mantle]

oh god

was he beaned or something

[bitter topaz]

left after being beaned from #suggestions-voting by sarg

anyway, just CTRL + F in #suggestions-voting with this adir#0031

[untold gulch]

ok

thanks

welp i tried. "no results."

[bitter topaz]

inb4 you forgot to put from: before the ID

from:adir#0031 in: suggestions this is what it should look like.

[ruby cobalt]

ye, doesn't work

[bitter topaz]

it's working for me

[untold gulch]

[ruby cobalt]

454981073810620418

@bitter drift

[untold gulch]

[round walrus]

Inb4 attack speed adrenaline shredder

[ashen warren]

'adrenaline attack speed boost'
So, make it even more useless half the time? How much of a boost? Will it revert to full damage for weapons that are known for ignoring/becoming unusable when attack speed is boosted?

[ruby cobalt]

Not fucking happening%

[civic rampart]

Exotier yoyo that summons yoyos that shoots more yoyos

Not really but pls more yoyos and flails

[tropic yoke]

I made some eidolon things

:P

Wait lemme finish the worm

Eidolic Reaver: Post-Polterghast Pickaxe
300% Pickaxe Power
~6 Use Time

Dropped by:
Polterghast Clones (10% Chance)
Eiolist (25% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)
Juvenile Eidolon Wyrms (33% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)
Adult Eidolon Wyrms (100% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)

Eidolon Flail: Post-Polterghast Flail
Behaves similarly to the Solar Eruption. The Eidolon Flail ignores NPC immunity frames and spawns Eidolon Eaters upon colliding with enemies. Eidolon Eaters home in on enemies, deal damage three times, and ignore enemy DR.

Eidolon Pole: Post-Polterghast Fishing Pole
777% Fishing Power
Casts 3 bobbers that all bob at the same time and work in lava.
Catches everything everywhere.

Eidolon Worm: Post-Plantera/Calamitas Bait
50% Bait Power
1% chance to spawn an Eidolon Wyrm.

Crafting:
1 Truffle Worm
15 Depth Cells
5 Lumenyl

Pow

[cyan lagoon]

for the last one

No truffle worms

they're a pain and a half to get

[tropic yoke]

Enchanted nightcrawler?

[cyan lagoon]

that could work

[ruby cobalt]

Just a worm.

[tropic yoke]

Aww okie

[civic rampart]

Exo tier yoyo:
Leaves a piercing trail behind the yoyo that lasts for 3 seconds, have a 1% chance every frame to spawn homing birbs. Yoyo itself ignore iframes

?

[tropic yoke]

Im gonna sprite em’ after class

[ashen warren]

Maybe not so high a Fishing Power pole, otherwise it won't actually catch 'everything, everywhere'.

Enchanted Nightcrawler for Truffle Worm if the chance is so low for the Eidolon Wyrm to spawn (make it Sulfur Sea only, maybe, for the spawn instead?)

Eidolic Reaver could be crafted with Reaver Shark+Lumenyl+Ruinous Souls/Tenebris?

Maybe Eidolic Lash/Lash of the Depths if it's a SE-type flail. Sounds neat tho.

[civic rampart]

Post slime god, pre wof yoyo
Crafted with cinidrian, air spinner and gods gambit, might make enemies cry

[frail mantle]

Isn’t the Truffle Worm craftable, or is that some Fargo’s shit

[civic rampart]

Yes it is

Or I've mixed up mod knowledge

[lost agate]

Nah, its craftable

1 worm 15 glowy mushrooms

[frail mantle]

That’s what I remembered

[tropic yoke]

Truffle then

[frail mantle]

Ye that works

[shy surge]

I want an Abyss house.

make it possible.

[lost agate]

voidstone

[shy surge]

i meant in the abyss but that works too

[ashen warren]

Abyss houses are now impossible, due to how it forces itself to exist even when you've (somehow) deleted the walls.

[tropic yoke]

That’s the ocean

Abyss is wall-based.

I’m pretty sure.

[dusty stirrup]

abyss is position based

[lost agate]

^

[tired haven]

As much as increasing attack speed sounds neat concept it may and will break certain amount of weapons

[lost agate]

Faster halibut oh boy

[tired haven]

Damage is universal

Also halibut is nothing compared to something like yoyos that will freak out

[civic rampart]

Terrarians can't imagine yoyos moving along the z axis to compensate for supersonic speed

[plucky patio]

Wouldn't increased attack speed ruin Mage because it runs Mana?

[civic rampart]

And yoyos

Maybe p90

[lost agate]

@terse rain so basically like a meteor but underground?

[terse rain]

but with enemies that aren't just harder meteor heads because nobody likes meteor heads

[lost agate]

Well, it sounds ok to me

[terse rain]

maybe minibosses that give you a debuff that makes you unable to mine when they're alive

[lost agate]

That could be rather annoying imo

[terse rain]

yeah

just throwing ideas out there though

auric ore mining is boring rn

[lost agate]

Imma give you a star nonetheless

[terse rain]

thx dude

[tropic yoke]

Eidolic Reaver: Post-Polterghast Pickaxe
300% Pickaxe Power
~6 Use Time

Dropped by:
Polterghast Clones (10% Chance)
Eiolist (25% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)
Juvenile Eidolon Wyrms (33% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)
Adult Eidolon Wyrms (100% Chance) (Post-Polterghast)

Is it ready?

Oh wait... Yellow ear thingos

lmao

Jokes on y'all, I don't play death mode so I don't get flooded with bosses.

Hehe

[cyan lagoon]

@polar oar huh

elaborate on why and stuff

[polar oar]

alrighty

[tropic yoke]

I'm guessing he got hecko deaded by a boss

[polar oar]

i just ranted about it in #calamity-mod-talk but

[tropic yoke]

Just a guess.

Yos

[polar oar]

eye of cthulhu spawning twice in one night, while i have no good weaponry, health, hermes boots, or platforms

while im just tryin to gather stars

[tropic yoke]

Rip

[polar oar]

isnt a fun mechanic to deal with

its a death i have to accept or im forced to restart the world to get rid of it

[tropic yoke]

Just disable it when you're grinding and such.

[polar oar]

its not just now, either

its not a fun feature at almost any point in progression

i want to be able to prep for bosses

[tropic yoke]

Just disable it when you don' wanna get clapped Fruity.

[polar oar]

not have to hide all night underground to not get ganged by them

and thats the thing

if i have to disable my death mode playthrough to play the game

why is it even a thing

and, when im 2/3rds across the world with no hermes boots

[tropic yoke]

Levi and cosmic plushie

[polar oar]

leaving is a 5 minute committment

and again, its not fun

twice a night, about

[tropic yoke]

Not leaving is a longer commitment

[polar oar]

at the current rate

nights are 9 minutes so

ur not wrong.

its about every 5 minutes

[hollow shell]

You gotta elaborate in your suggestion itself

[polar oar]

alright, ill go edit it then

[hollow shell]

👍

[fossil torrent]

I really want to get into spriting, think it’d be something for me

Seems fun.

Well, can’t say that if you haven’t really tried can you? I bet everyone sucked when they started

[tropic yoke]

Is it sad that moderators are above devs?

[glossy bough]

off topic

[tropic yoke]

Meh

[fossil torrent]

Let’s move to #general-talk

[tropic yoke]

lmao I'm still doing eidolon things so I'm stayin''

Yellow ears!

Time for suggesting now

[glossy bough]

since when did pickaxes have ears?

[tropic yoke]

It's a reaver

[glossy bough]

since when did reavers have ears?

[tropic yoke]

It's the Eidolon Wyrm as a reaver.

I call the yellow things ears.

Shut

[glossy bough]

[devout seal]

They're just glowy bits

[glossy bough]

ok

[devout seal]

eidolons probably don't even need ears, just a way to tell vibrations

[polar oar]

edited my suggestion, for whoever wanted it edited

[hollow shell]

Thank you sir

[polar oar]

it did

twas called masochist mode, in fargos

and i dont think anyone had it enabled unironically

because random boss spawns is shitey

even the stock terraria random mech boss spawns was never fun

it was rare as hell and i still disliked when it happened

if it happened twice every night it'd just suck

(which is what happens now, except with all bosses)

[bitter topaz]

the random boss spawning as a concept is fine imo, the way it works is not.

aka it can happen multiple times, with little to no cooldown between spawns afaik

[hasty wigeon]

Vailla bosses spawning is fine

Wym

You feel Vibrations from deep below

[bitter topaz]

death adds additional random boss spawns, seperate from vanilla

[hasty wigeon]

Ik

[polar oar]

vibrations from deep below is bullshit too

[hasty wigeon]

How?? XD

Destroyer is easy

[polar oar]

it could be twins or skeletron prime

[hasty wigeon]

No

[polar oar]

neither of which are easy when you just entered hardmode

[hasty wigeon]

Not from that message

Also

[polar oar]

dear lord you should've gotten the point

any of the 3 mechs can spawn

they have the same condition

[hasty wigeon]

Yea

[polar oar]

just different messages

[hasty wigeon]

They usually do

Free fight without wasting a summon

[polar oar]

yea, but its not twice on the first night of hardmode

is it

[barren hound]

vanilla spawns are a small chance

and can only occur once per night

not 2 times per night

like calamities

[polar oar]

calamity has some that happen during the day, too

i didnt have time to make it across my crimson before i got the "something's approaching" message

[barren hound]

or if you enter a specific biome

[polar oar]

yep

[tropic yoke]

Should I suggest that the Crystyl Crusher's P.P. be nerfed to 275%?

[barren hound]

oh the world spawned you with no cave and your spawn is stuck between desert and corruption
well to bad go fight the bosses before you even get your first chest

[dusty stirrup]

no because it's a dev item

[polar oar]

thats the situation im in

[hasty wigeon]

Just dig a hole

[fossil torrent]

Is that true? Does rogue items not work with other mods throwing items?

[polar oar]

digging isnt fun

i wanna have fun dammit

let me find caves

[barren hound]

yea

[hasty wigeon]

-.-

[barren hound]

just fucking dig with a copper pickaxe

[polar oar]

nobody likes doing jack shit while holding down left mouse button for 5 minutes

[tropic yoke]

Am I not allowed to suggest a dev item nerf?

[barren hound]

for what could be minutes

[polar oar]

until they find a hole in the wall that leads to nothing

[agile cloud]

Dont think so @tropic yoke

[hasty wigeon]

I do that in every world I play in

[tropic yoke]

Wot

[hasty wigeon]

Dig a hole down

[tropic yoke]

Wack

[fossil torrent]

Apparently it’s not a thing they do nightmare

[polar oar]

digging a hole down is boring and largely a waste of time

[tropic yoke]

What if new ores and pickaxes get added?

[polar oar]

cave diving is much faster

and more fun

more rewarding...

etc

[tropic yoke]

Welp, there goes my waste of a pickaxe suggestion ;-;

[hasty wigeon]

It's a Post Scal item

I don't think there would be a point to ores at that point

[fossil torrent]

Why are you so godly great at spriting lol

[tropic yoke]

auric ore and uelibloom ore

[cyan lagoon]

theres already a uelibloom pick, and that can mine auric ore

[tropic yoke]

With 275%

[fossil torrent]

well there are already pickaxes that mine those

[tropic yoke]

They could totally add another or

e

[cyan lagoon]

and at that point pickaxe power does not matter

[tropic yoke]

Why does no one want to accept more ores?
What's so horrid about the idea?

[cyan lagoon]

no @ashen warren

[polar oar]

we dont need more ores right now

[hasty wigeon]

There's no point

[fossil torrent]

Barely any ore is minable with explosives

[tropic yoke]

In the future, when more post-scal stuff gets in.

I didn't say right now.

[hasty wigeon]

Still

[dusty stirrup]

dev items will be moved anyway

[tropic yoke]

Welp

[fossil torrent]

I’d like cosmilite ore spawning in planetoids and sky islands tbh

[dusty stirrup]

scal will have her own drops

UwU

[fossil torrent]

So you didn’t have to refight doggo that much

[tropic yoke]

Ignore that.

[eager palm]

uwu

[tropic yoke]

Now it's double funny.

[fossil torrent]

Hey that could actually be a cool idea

[tropic yoke]

How about armored digger or DoTs spawning in space that drop it after DoG has been defeated.

Remember the cosmilite biome Idea I had a while back?

Heh

[dusty stirrup]

cosmilite farming won't be so annoying at some point

[hasty wigeon]

I enjoy the DoGgo fight anyways

Great music

[gusty geode]

I think we should get some new world gen in the Yharim update so that players can't just use the buffed dev items to tear through everything easily
And also have him be unfightable until all other post-ML bosses are defeated
That way he can't be cheesed

[eager palm]

But it's not really that annoying, you just have to kill doggo once, get a better weapon and then it's a lot easier

[dusty stirrup]

Like I said

dev items will be moved

to a higher point in progression

[tropic yoke]

Sounds cul

[hasty wigeon]

What about the people who already have them

[tropic yoke]

How about demonshade armor?

Will that stay?

[dusty stirrup]

Yeah but it'll be changed a bit, I think

[tropic yoke]

Neat

[gusty geode]

But people will still have them on old worlds
So people without the decency to start again would be able to easily kill Yharim and/or Draedon
Some world gen change would prevent that by forcing a new playthrough

[hasty wigeon]

Wouldn't it be easier to scale new bosses rather than edit weapons that people already have

[dusty stirrup]

but dev weps are intended to be endgame

not bound to scal

[eager palm]

tfw people don't understand there will be harder bosses than scal

[hasty wigeon]

I know

[dusty stirrup]

If you still want to use the buffed dev weps, you do it

otherwise just get the new weps from scal

[hasty wigeon]

Ok

[gusty geode]

Where's the challenge in that
You're really okay with people cheesing the fight that's been built up for over a year because they got certain weapons back when they were in a different tier?

[cyan lagoon]

They'll probably just lock it behind yharim or xeroc

whoever comes first

[fossil torrent]

Just commit ”can’t be used before X is dead”

[cyan lagoon]

like how murasama and yharim's crystal is locked behind phase2 yharon

[fossil torrent]

Yeah

[polar oar]

@fossil torrent i wanna acknowledge somethin

why does "4 bars per 16 ore" exists

thats dum and idk why cryogen ore does it either

just be 4 ore to a bar

[cyan lagoon]

yeah that kind of bothered me

[fossil torrent]

on a side note, I’m pretty sure yharim will be before xeroc, they’ll prob finish normal bosses first

[cyan lagoon]

maybe you can suggest that...?

[gusty geode]

Actually yeah, that could work too
New stuff to explore would still be cool tho

[fossil torrent]

Agreed. Changing it.

[polar oar]

i will RIGHT NOW

[fossil torrent]

u hAPPY?

[polar oar]

yes

[dusty stirrup]

I mean it's kinda your problem if you willingly cheese using the buffed dev weps anyway

[fossil torrent]

Was gonna say that, but refrained to saying just what I said

Is it possible for a weapon to have different description in game depending on a boss’s death?

[dusty stirrup]

yes

[polar oar]

title is possible

i dont see why description wouldnt be

[cyan lagoon]

(Fruity is referring to pretty much every bar besides Shadowspec, Aerialite, Victide, Bar of Life, and any dropped bar that isn't from Ravager)

[fossil torrent]

For example the dev weapons saying something along the lines of ”This item is intended to be used after (latest boi) is dead” is possible then

[polar oar]

could straight restrict it

[fossil torrent]

We already discussed that

[polar oar]

i mustve not been paying attention, then

[fossil torrent]

Btw, i like the idea of having worm-shaped cosmilite ore veins

[ashen warren]

People will try to cheese even if you restrict stuff, they’ll just use other mod stuff to do it instead

[polar oar]

thats fair

[hollow shell]

You can craft em faster if you get more bars for using more ore

[fossil torrent]

Cheesers will cheese, even if you try to restrict them

[polar oar]

u can craft em faster

that aint gooooooooooooooood reasonin

you'll save maybe 3 seconds if ur crafting in bulk

[fossil torrent]

Having it just tell you that the item is not intended to be used yet will do nothing to cheesers either, but will make people who don’t want to cheese understand ”ah, this aint intended, not gonna use it yet” without just banning them from doing so

Neat idea, neat execution imo

[gusty geode]

That was why I thought my original idea was good
If you added something to post-update worlds that was required for either Draedon or Yharim's summoning item (or both) and restricted people from fighting Yharim until all other important bosses were down, then it would effectively force a new playthrough and kill any attempts to cheese
Unless the cheeser was super dedicated, at which point nothing can stop them from playing fair

[fossil torrent]

I really don’t see the point

[gusty geode]

Along with preventing people from making the fight too easy, it'd also just be fun for some people if they had something new to explore

[polar oar]

im hoping mr calamity considers reconsidering the random boss spawns

im still gettin dicked by it

i just cheated in resurrection pots and accept death now

seems like the most elegant solution

[fossil torrent]

I’m pretty sure he’s said he considers it

[gusty geode]

I think the best thing to do, at least for now, is get good or get out

[polar oar]

u literally cant fight eye without boots tho

[fossil torrent]

Well for Yharim the location of that item is pretty obvious

[gusty geode]

I've done it
Several times

[placid perch]

Same

[ashen warren]

Good for both of you

[polar oar]

no boots no hook?

[gusty geode]

I once fought Skeletron and EoC simultaneously without any speed enhancers besides aglet and came out alive

[polar oar]

on death mode?

[ashen warren]

Just because something is possible to do, doesn’t mean it’s fun to do, for others

[polar oar]

because that sounds next to impossible on death mode

eye of cthulhu is straight faster than you without boots

[gusty geode]

No, on normal
But keep in mind this was also my first time fighting either of them, and I had no arena besides a campfire

[polar oar]

bossses dont randomly spawn on normal

thats my point

[ashen warren]

You can not compare normal fights to death mode

They are vastly different

[polar oar]

normal mode, you can beat the entire game without boots if you really wanted to

death mode, you need boots or a hook to fight king slime effeciently

[dusty stirrup]

lol normal

[ashen warren]

Or just balloon + blizz/sandstorm in a bottle with platforms

[glossy bough]

ew normal mode

[cold terrace]

ew dr. bright

[polar oar]

i suppose thats also an effecient way to do it

my king slime fights have always been horizontal

not vertical

well, at least after rope cheese was deleted

[gusty geode]

EoC may be fast but it still only charges in straight lines
A well-timed jump should be enough to dodge
You should learn to adapt and fight without whatever meta-dominating item you can't seem to find, it'll help you a lot in the long run

[polar oar]

rip rope cheese

[fossil torrent]

ew normal mode isn’t normal

wait

[polar oar]

death mode eye doesnt charge in straight lines

death mode eye charges everywhere

[glossy bough]

that happened to me in rev once

[polar oar]

nonstop

if you doublejump he will charge into you

[glossy bough]

I was unable to replicate the anomaly

[ashen warren]

It charges diagonally, yes you can dodge it by jumping, but you’re also pretty likely to get hit and die so uh no

[polar oar]

boots arent "meta-defining"

they're literally essential

[ashen warren]

Especially considering the speed of eoc’s charges

[polar oar]

unless you have mounts

nice dead inside role btw

i tried to get it but got bricked at brimmy/skeletron prime

@ashen warren

[glossy bough]

off topic smh

[ashen warren]

prime after the wing nerfs is a bit more rough ye, and brimmy's just rude tbh, still pretty fun once you nail the new strats tho, is that a minimodder i see

[polar oar]

new strats, eh?

[glossy bough]

yes

[polar oar]

i dont know no new strats

[tribal fable]

If possible, it'd be neat to get a bit of feedback on my suggestion.

[polar oar]

ocean cities, hell yea

thats all i got to say

but they could be easily abused

to farm the abyss

[glossy bough]

oh damb that's good

[little talon]

What about mine?

[polar oar]

remove something is approaching

its a bad mechanic

[glossy bough]

I didn't know it said something is approaching in the first place

[little talon]

So you'd rather get raped by a boss without warning?

[polar oar]

no

remove something is approaching

[glossy bough]

oh Death

[polar oar]

in its entirely

no random boss spawns

at all

[little talon]

Why?

It'd add a good amount of challenge to the game.

And if you don't like it, just exit and come back.

That works for literally any boss ever.

[polar oar]

no it doesnt

[vestal elbow]

make it another mode that's separate from difficulty 🤷

[misty talon]

you realize deathmode is crafted to be a true expert mode, so its hard and often bullshit. thats the point

[polar oar]

that respawns you at your bed

[tribal fable]

I tried to have a few measures in place to reduce cheese potential. Of course, we can't really fully stop cheese.

[polar oar]

alright, hold up

no mode is designed to be bullshit

[ashen warren]

and the boss despawns because you left the world

[polar oar]

its designed to be hard

random boss spawns

is bullshit

bullshit =/= difficulty

https://i.imgur.com/EnDaJ5u.png

[misty talon]

its not total bs, as in you cant get through. its possible to beat them.

[polar oar]

its literally impossible to beat death mode eye without boots

i dont have boots

[little talon]

I sense Fruity can't take a challenge.

[polar oar]

eye spawns twice on first night

[ashen warren]

the main thing regarding random boss spawns i dislike, is how clone can spawn pre literally any mechs dead

[misty talon]

...it wont spawn underground

so idk man

[tribal fable]

...Not a mod, but shouldn't this text channel be for discussing... suggestions?

[polar oar]

im on the surface

collecting stars

[misty talon]

then uh

dont

[polar oar]

im a mage

[eager palm]

don't turn on death mode unless you're ready to fight bosses

[misty talon]

instead, go underground and find boots?

[polar oar]

i cant

[dusty stirrup]

deathmode is meant to be a pain in the ass

[polar oar]

im surrounded by corruption

[ashen warren]

deathmode is a pain tbh

[misty talon]

dig down

below thine feet

[little talon]

Man up, butter cup.

[dusty stirrup]

masomode but it has boss spawns

[ashen warren]

ono

[polar oar]

its not a matter of challenge

its a matter of

[rapid pivot]

if the world is crap, restart

[polar oar]

its not fun to fight a boss you cant fight

[eager palm]

Or turn on death mode before summoning a boss

[polar oar]

why would i turn off death mode on a death mode playthrough

[eager palm]

You don't have to have it on 100% of the time

[polar oar]

you all are suggesting workarounds

[heavy mural]

Nebula, change it to WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING FLYING TOWARDS ME

[dusty stirrup]

haha deathmode playthrough

[fervent zealot]

here's a workaround

[round falcon]

keep it on

[fervent zealot]

CRAFT BOOTS.

[rapid pivot]

What do you want, if not a solution to your problem?

[little talon]

Fruity. It's just the Corruption.

[eager palm]

Well then don't complain about something being hard when it's meant to be hard

[polar oar]

bosses randomly spawn in the corruption

i cant walk through it

[ashen warren]

brimmy i'm doing that rn with summoner, i have never regretted anything more

[little talon]

So?

Man up.

[eager palm]

Turn it off and get yourself some shoes if it bothers you so much

[polar oar]

man up and do what?

[dusty stirrup]

[polar oar]

fuckin die?

[little talon]

If you can't deal with the features then don't play it.

[rapid pivot]

you could just like

craft hermes boots

[little talon]

Right?

[rapid pivot]

they're one of the things calamity adds a recipe for

[polar oar]

i dont got cobwebs cause i havent found a cave

[rapid pivot]

dig down

[dusty stirrup]

then find a cave tbh

[polar oar]

and digging down for 10 minutes with a shoddy copper pickaxe

isnt fun

[misty talon]

death mode is an intentional challenge. if you dont want it, dont do it.

[rapid pivot]

smart cursor

[dusty stirrup]

upgrade the pickaxe then

[polar oar]

its not a CHALLENGE boys

its bullshit

[little talon]

Are you trying to be as retarded as possible?

[polar oar]

theres a difference

[little talon]

Or as helpless as possible?

[dusty stirrup]

You're kinda just being petty at this point

[polar oar]

also, are you just trying to be an asshole mister shephard

[rapid pivot]

eh.. actually maybe this isn't the best place for this discussion

[polar oar]

cause thats all yer doin

[misty talon]

and heres why you're sitting on discord whining instead of turning it off. you want a mode thats basically just rev with a few more numbers

[little talon]

You keep bitching, but you're unwilling to do anything.

[misty talon]

thats not the point of deathmode

[fossil torrent]

Deathmode features aren’t even fecking enabled until you kill a boss right

[polar oar]

nope

well i think some are

[fossil torrent]

THEN WHY NOT JUST DISABLE IT

[little talon]

Don't play Deathmode if you aren't willing to do anything except complain.

[misty talon]

nobody will judge you if you turn it off when its too much. just play what you can and dont play what you cant.

[eager palm]

Aight calm down, @polar oar stop complaining about death mode being hard and @little talon you don't have to insult them for it (even tho they're being a dumbass)

[ashen warren]

natural spawns are 100% enabled before killing a boss

rob you just insulted them too smh

[rapid pivot]

so

[fervent zealot]

we offer you solutions and you turn down our solutions

[polar oar]

wtf

[rapid pivot]

i haven't ever actually played death mode, yeah

but I'm gonna guess it's like dark souls, right?

half the point is to die til you git gud?

[dusty stirrup]

dank souls

[polar oar]

i wanna be on the surface at night

[misty talon]

i 100% will not judge you if you turn off deathmode when its too much. i agree its bullshit, but thats the point, you learn how to deal with the bs and get through it eventually, and if you cant, you switch back to regular rev.

[fervent zealot]

then kill eye, fruity

[dusty stirrup]

kill eoc then

[eager palm]

@polar oar It's meant to be hard. If you feel like it's unfair you can turn it off at any point, gear up, and then turn it on again.

[misty talon]

^

[little talon]

Fruity. Don't play it if you can't take it.

[polar oar]

its not a matter of death mode being too much

[misty talon]

we will not judge

[polar oar]

i've beaten death mode 8+ times

this is just a bullshit mechanic

[fervent zealot]

if you think eye first night is bullshit?

[dusty stirrup]

this is so sad

[fervent zealot]

craft boots

[rapid pivot]

then why are you complaining about this now

[polar oar]

because its random

random isnt fun

[little talon]

It's like saying you don't like ice cream because it's cold but you just let it sit there and take little licks, never doing anything else.

[misty talon]

i disagree, its very mechanical.

[eager palm]

Are you seriously gonna keep at this.

[tribal fable]

i dunno about you, but people find hearthstone fun and that's random /s

[dusty stirrup]

It's like fruity refuses to listen to anything we say

[little talon]

Right?

[ashen warren]

it gives you a one minute warning, go underground after the warning in chat shows up then after one minute passes, head back up and keep collecting stars, or you know, relog

[polar oar]

i've listened to everything you're all sayin

[dusty stirrup]

guess this is a lost cause

[little talon]

Except not really.

[polar oar]

relogging warps you back to spawn

[little talon]

You just read what we say. You don't actually listen.

[polar oar]

its an inconvenience and thats all

[misty talon]

look, just accept that nobody will care if you turn off deathmode when you cant deal with it. thats that. good day man

[little talon]

You have 2 options. 1) Deal with the shit that happens in Deathmode. 2) Turn off Deathmode and stop crying.

[polar oar]

so im not allowed to make suggestions about death mode

[misty talon]

you can, but we are allowed to disagree

[little talon]

Well, you can. It's just that you can't demolish everything that Deathmode is.

[polar oar]

and im allowed to defend myself

or rather

defend my point

[little talon]

Your defense is "It's too hard!" Even though it's supposed to be hard.

[polar oar]

no, its not too hard

[eager palm]

Difficulty is subjective, we already said it a thousand times that if you feel like it's bullshit you can quit it at any time.

[dusty stirrup]

even tho your point isn't necessarly good yeah

[polar oar]

bullshit =/= difficulty

[rapid pivot]

You're allowed to do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't break the rules, Fruity

[polar oar]

death mode scal is hard

random boss spawns is bullshit

[rapid pivot]

.But you have to get the community for vote for your suggestions.

[polar oar]

theres a veeery clear difference

[rapid pivot]

And I don't think a lot of people will vote for it.

[little talon]

Fruity. Deathmode is supposed to be bullshit level of difficulty.

[dusty stirrup]

Just because a suggestion gets 50 votes doesn't mean it'll get in the game anyway

[little talon]

So why are you whining about it being bullshit?

[rapid pivot]

Oh, yeah, I know. But, it's a qualifier, at least, yeah?

[polar oar]

deathmode isnt bullshit, though

[dusty stirrup]

yeah

[polar oar]

its a surmountable challenge that isnt an annoyance

[little talon]

You keep saying that several features are.

[polar oar]

no

1 feature

(one)

[dusty stirrup]

wh

[polar oar]

is

[ashen warren]

death isn't supposed to be bullshit, it's supposed to be, well, death. Which natural boss spawns do provide

[misty talon]

then turn it off for that duration

[dusty stirrup]

Gosh I'm just confused at this point