#suggestions-discussion

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cobalt lotus
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put time into thinking about it

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dont just spew out suggestions

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make 5 good ones rather than 50 rushed ones

ashen warren
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Yeah but I don’t rush

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Also I do better when someone suggests something to me

cobalt lotus
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something like the sun god staff for post moonlord

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styled after any boss

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idc which one

ashen warren
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Dog

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Dog?

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Would fit with his 'Burrowing thru dimensions' theme

cobalt lotus
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oh yeah

ashen warren
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You got the ceaseless void to wok with there

radiant meadow
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@arctic notch what do you mean?

cobalt lotus
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like a portal above your head and it sends out mini dog heads

radiant meadow
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that's not a suggestion at all

ashen warren
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I think he accidentally pressed enter

unique vector
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he mispressed

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ive done that before

arctic notch
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^

ashen warren
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^

radiant meadow
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oh LUL

cobalt lotus
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^

radiant meadow
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sorry then

ashen warren
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Actually I got a good idea

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Well?

radiant meadow
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can you clean up the recipe?

tulip fulcrum
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I messpress sometimes too

radiant meadow
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I don't understand it

unique vector
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termi's covering up for his mistake by asking for the recipe to be revised

radiant meadow
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are you suggesting that spoons, forks, and knives also be added?

unique vector
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but yeah, the recipe you're asking for isn't existing material

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so it doesn't make too much sense

arctic notch
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There.

radiant meadow
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you could also add the option of the forks, knives, and spoons being early rogue weapons

tulip fulcrum
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I must agree^

radiant meadow
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and tone down on the ruinous souls

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40 is like way too many

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okay, 10 is better

cobalt lotus
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idk if this suggestion would work though

arctic notch
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I like making Rogue ideas.

cobalt lotus
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at this tier you have valediction which is already incredibly good for DoG

arctic notch
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Not to me.

tulip fulcrum
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I love the idea of throwing literal silverware at enemies, so that one gets a star

arctic notch
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Should I move it?

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Maybe post-DoG?

cobalt lotus
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Yeah maybe for Providence tier or Post DoG

tulip fulcrum
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Mhm

cobalt lotus
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I feel like Rogue is wayyyyyyy more viable now

tulip fulcrum
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Post provi may make sense their, and the materials for silverware could also be usable before hm

cobalt lotus
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I think Post DoG is good

arctic notch
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One of my Rogue ideas got sent. The one for Vanilla materials.

cobalt lotus
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My suggestion for Portabulb I think got implemented

arctic notch
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Iirc, Post-DoG has nothing good for Rogue.

cobalt lotus
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Empyrean knives are fantastic

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For Yharon at least

arctic notch
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I'll make an Upgrade.

cobalt lotus
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wait dont

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empyrean are post phase 1 @arctic notch

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so your idea makes sense pre phase 2

arctic notch
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No, a Post- Phase 2 weapon upgrade.

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Or Post-BumbleBirb.

cobalt lotus
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Just do Post DoG

arctic notch
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A whole new Weapon.

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Another weapon, I mean.

cobalt lotus
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oh

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well after Yharon players have access to Exo tier weapons

tulip fulcrum
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Mhm

cobalt lotus
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so a post Yharon weapon most likely wouldn't get accepted

ashen warren
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Make a post Yharon Clemontator

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Clemantitor

cobalt lotus
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I think Post DoG works, and when people beat Yharon phase 1 they can upgrade to Empyrean knives @arctic notch

lofty blade
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Yeah Empyrean knives are post phase 1

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they need darksun fragments

arctic notch
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Still. A few joke weapons that are viable would be funny.

fervent zealot
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halibut already exists

cobalt lotus
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joke suggestions arent gonna be accepted

ashen warren
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Portabulb.

tropic yoke
ashen warren
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More like a rocket launcher

tropic yoke
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Ooh

ashen warren
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Neato

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And by that, aren't the other designs for abyss weps a bit dirty?

cobalt lotus
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shutup @ashen warren that was not a joke suggestion it was completely serious

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i swear

ashen warren
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Right.

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Another card item tho

little talon
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A lil' something for those that like to take risks.

hollow shell
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Got any idea for where it should be place in the game, progression-wise?

little talon
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That I like to keep that up in the air.

hollow shell
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That's fair

little talon
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Because, it all depends on how strong the developers make it.

tropic yoke
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Portabulb is a great idea, joke or not.

little talon
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I agree.

cobalt lotus
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it got over 100 stars

tropic yoke
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lmao

cobalt lotus
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and like 15 checks

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it got drowned out by other suggestions

ashen warren
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Bit funny tho.

arctic notch
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Upgrade to The Silverware posted.

cobalt lotus
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I don't know if that would be very viable post yharon 2

hollow shell
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Could you separate the recipes please?

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Recipes/items

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s'hard to read

cobalt lotus
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Players get access to celestus and scourge of cosmos

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a deadly rogue combo for SCal

ashen warren
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And empy

hollow shell
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Thank you

arctic notch
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Np.

hollow shell
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(if you could do so on The Silverware too, that'd be appreciated)

arctic notch
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There you go.

hollow shell
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👍

arctic notch
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Complaints, suggestions, or criticisms?

cobalt lotus
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look above

arctic notch
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Well, I mean about the item itself, or what hasn't been said?

cobalt lotus
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I like The Silverware, it is a good weapon for its tier.

little talon
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Updated the values.

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Thought it was a little too lenient.

cobalt lotus
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But I don't think its upgrade is very necessary

arctic notch
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Well, I just wanted to do something else with it.

cobalt lotus
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Maybe make what The Kitchen is now The Silverware, and make The Silverware a HM weapon instead of Post Moon Lord

arctic notch
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Ok.

little talon
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Hey, Mack. Do you think the chances on my accessories sound fair? Or should I change it.

ashen warren
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Add the bananarang and then call it the banana split LUL

arctic notch
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What's that material that drops off of Plantera?

ashen warren
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Living shards

arctic notch
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Tyvm.

ashen warren
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YW

cobalt lotus
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I like the idea, but it could encourage getting hit in order for a bonus. If a player gets unlucky and gets no effect or they get a negative effect, it could make it less viable in the long run and could also get drowned out by other accessories that are necessities like wings, boots, shields, class items, etc.

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@little talon

little talon
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It's supposed to be for those that like to take risks.

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Deciding to take a hit for a possible benefit is a very risky thing.

cobalt lotus
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Maybe make it No effect for the worst

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and small positive effect

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Then a slightly larger positive effect

ashen warren
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then where's the 'risk' aside from the hit you take?

little talon
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I think the debuff/damage thing should stay.

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Exactly.

cobalt lotus
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Depends where the item ends up in terms of what tier its in

little talon
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Why should that matter?

arctic notch
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Do you think anything should be adjusted about my suggestions?

cobalt lotus
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If its Post Moon Lord it could cause someone to lose 400 HP to one hit

little talon
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So?

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You don't have to use it.

cobalt lotus
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With No effect after someone purposefully gets hit, it could be a massive blow that could cause their battle to end

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Thus making it less viable

little talon
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You shouldn't encourage the risk of a benefit without any risk of a loss of some sort.

cobalt lotus
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I'm saying it depends where it ends up in the game

ashen warren
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that's the risk part, you chose to roll the dice and faceplant into a projectile/enemy ech

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But don't do it like drata

cobalt lotus
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If it ends up in early game it makes sense to have a damaging debuff

little talon
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I didn't say that the debuff/damage had to be overwhelming, I just said it should exist.

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Okay, you're acting like this debuff/damage thing will be the thing to shaft every attempt if you get it.

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There's no set value.

cobalt lotus
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No I'm not

little talon
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Balancing is up to the developers.

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If it ends up being the worst thing, that's on them.

cobalt lotus
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I'm saying that not getting a buff could make it not viable after taking a powerful hit

little talon
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Dude.

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It's a RISK item./

arctic notch
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^

little talon
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It's not supposed to be viable all the time.

ashen warren
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^^^^

cobalt lotus
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Ok

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Where should the item end up in the mod

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what tier

little talon
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That's like saying that a casino is too unfair because you might lose all your money.

arctic notch
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If there's no risk, then it would defeat the purpose.

cobalt lotus
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I agree with the risk part

little talon
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Then why are you crying over viability?

tulip fulcrum
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Any, it's up to the dev to decide where to put it

little talon
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Exactly.

arctic notch
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^

ashen warren
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and i'm sure the devs and testers will make sure it isn't going to just end your fight the moment you take ONE hit daryl

little talon
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Like I said.

tulip fulcrum
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^

cobalt lotus
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I'm saying that if it ends up early game, where it's much easier and more forgiving to take hits, it would make sense for it to deal a damaging debuff if they get the random chance for that to happen

arctic notch
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It's up to the Devs.

little talon
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I don't want it to be early game and I highly doubt they'll put it there.

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It'll probably be Hardmode or Post Moon Lord.

radiant meadow
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sun god is good

little talon
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Given the nature.

radiant meadow
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tf?

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and sun spirit is meant to be a weak support

cobalt lotus
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Ok then put that in your suggestion

little talon
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Why?

cobalt lotus
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because from the pins in the #suggestions-voting channel, "If needed, suggest what period of the game the item or enemy is found."

little talon
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The devs PROBABLY won't put it in Pre Hardmode.

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And if it is, oh well.

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Why would it be a pre-hardmode accessory?

tropic yoke
ashen warren
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Nice

little talon
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That looks really good.

tropic yoke
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More viney or whatever

cobalt lotus
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All accessory slots are usually taken in hardmode, with no room for fillers

ashen warren
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Like a HM SC

tropic yoke
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?

ashen warren
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Sulphuric cannon

little talon
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Mack, that doesn't matter for crap.

tropic yoke
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oh

ashen warren
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Neat

tropic yoke
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wait...

ashen warren
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What.

little talon
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The accessory slots are bursting at the seems just about at any point.

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So why does that even matter?

tropic yoke
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SC is post-ML

ashen warren
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Yeah

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So a hardmode SC is plausible

radiant meadow
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what?

little talon
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What what, Timekeep?

radiant meadow
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hardmode SC?

ashen warren
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Sulphuric Cannon

little talon
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He means a weaker version, essentially.

cobalt lotus
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You don't get wings until post Skeletron and there aren't any emblems for damage in classes. You really only need boots, maybe balloons, a class item, and then whatever else you can fit

ashen warren
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Not Scal

radiant meadow
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oh slobbyjoy

cobalt lotus
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I think your suggestion fits perfectly in Pre HM

little talon
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Except, no.

radiant meadow
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okay, that makes way more sense

ashen warren
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YEah

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i made that mistake too termi dw LUL

cobalt lotus
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Oh my god can you just let me agree with you

keen nebula
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If you really want to keep using the Sun Spirit staff as weak support, you could just give it one minion slot

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

cobalt lotus
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I think its a good suggestion

hollow shell
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mackcub why are you obsessing over this guy's suggestion so much sad

little talon
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Thank you.

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Because I asked him about how fair the probabilities sounded.

cobalt lotus
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I just think it fits better in Pre HM, rather than HM where it gets drowned out by wings, boots, emblems, deific amulet, now level meters, and shields

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The works

little talon
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Who cares?

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You gotta make room for your favorite accessories.

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The buff from the Ace would probably be better than the Emblem, if it's at that point.

keen nebula
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Let's look at what the accessories usually look like

little talon
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And it'd be much better for a multi-classer.

cobalt lotus
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This is all hypothetical, most suggestions don't even reach the 50 stars

keen nebula
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  1. you need the boots
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  1. you need vertical movement, aka CiaB / wings
arctic notch
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One of mine did in no time.

cobalt lotus
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It's a good suggestion, but its been 30 minutes and it has 12 stars

keen nebula
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  1. you need the dash
little talon
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You don't need to dash.

arctic notch
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So?

little talon
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I find dashing to be the worst feature.

cobalt lotus
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oh yeah i forgot, counter scarf / shield of cthulu

hollow shell
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Couldn't you use this argument against every accessory ever suggested that aren't one of those things?

cobalt lotus
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ok

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what

little talon
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Right?

hollow shell
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Sounds kinda
like

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not a good argument

little talon
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That's what I was saying.

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There's probably enough accessories to fill your entire inventory.

hollow shell
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and thensome

ashen warren
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the point of new accessories is to bring more choice to the table and new ways to play through portions of the game/fights ech

little talon
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Exactly.

keen nebula
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good point

tulip fulcrum
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Dashing can be good sometimes, the real question is this, "when can I dash"

little talon
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It mostly is infuriating when I'm not fighting something and I'm trying to inch closer to something.

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I've died a few times trying to inch up to a cliff with those damn shields.

cobalt lotus
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Dont double tap 4head

little talon
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It doesn't matter. If you tap even so slightly close together it does that.

ashen warren
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try not double tapping in a fight that requires precise movement ech

cobalt lotus
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was a joke

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notice the 4head

little talon
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Sorry for not knowing you had a sense of humor after all that.

ashen warren
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jokes are supposed to be funny, and it didn't really add to the convo ech

cobalt lotus
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oo that burns

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Ooo thats also burns

arctic notch
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F

keen nebula
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I've had to swap out dash accessories while i'm building because I'd dash off the platform while I was building it

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r/mildlyinfuriating

little talon
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That too.

ashen warren
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Neat clover.

little talon
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Perfect subreddit for that.

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Y'know, the Clover could be something used to make The Gambler given the similar premise.

cobalt lotus
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And I accidentally dash all the time, but it doesn't always cost the battle

ashen warren
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Farmed in the Jungle?

little talon
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Yeah, but it'll cost you gold.

cobalt lotus
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I feel like the Gambler could also be bought from Travelling merchant

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Rather than crafted

little talon
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Yeah, makes sense.

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Just like that fan of cards or whatever. That sounds like something that'd definitely come from him.

ashen warren
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4 leaf clover making crits do triple damage might be a bit much, especially if you factor in stuff like rage/adrena ech

cobalt lotus
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Also with most loadouts consisting of all Lucky reforges

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That could get over powered

hollow shell
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Calamity's got caps

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I assume when your crit chance is halved by the clover, the cap will also be halved

little talon
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Just doing about 50x damage with the Void Dragon against SCal.

paper wagon
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The clover is essentially just Blood Pact

little talon
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True.

hollow shell
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That's not what Blood Pact does

ashen warren
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Make Blood pact not crit you when using a true melee weapon

cobalt lotus
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rtrt

ashen warren
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loadouts don't consist of lucky reforges since lucky got changed to 2%, wasn't crit/damage caps removed in one of the recent updates tho with the twist of crit chance getting adjusted across the board?

paper wagon
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Blood Pact is like, you have 2x Health, but you can get crit and take more damage

hollow shell
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Oh yeah that's right

cobalt lotus
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Oh I didn'know about that change

ashen warren
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It still bad

cobalt lotus
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the 2% thing

paper wagon
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The clover would do a lot less damage, because only You would get the 3x boost half of the time, so the damage from crits overall would be 1.5x

ashen warren
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Yes but late game when your crit is off the charts it’s actually insanely good for you

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Think about it

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only class it doesn't benefit is summoner LUL

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Lol

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Here's an idea:

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Particulate Vortex

A pre-ML gun that uses sand for ammo, and shoots a wave of a Sandnado (a la storm surge). When the Sandnado reaches it's end point, it explodes into a shotgun spread of exploding sand.

Crafting: (1) Storm Surge + (1) Sandstorm + (20) Vortex Fragments @ Ancient manipulator

why : None of the weapons here see an upgrade, aren't really used, and both are desert themed. So, like the swarmer, these weapons should be combined and utilized against ML.

little talon
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Wrong chat.

ashen warren
hollow shell
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Nah, it's recommended to send em here first

cobalt lotus
ashen warren
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So I don't mess up.

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mostly for discussion on the idea so it can be refined or things can be changed before submitting

little talon
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Ah.

cobalt lotus
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I like the idea Timer

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Storm surge doesnt get love

ashen warren
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Yeah

cobalt lotus
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I think the range is to be increased as well as the size of the projectile

ashen warren
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Yeah, but do mind that the Sandstorm has to work with it as well.

cobalt lotus
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the end of the vortex could dissipate and do damage

ashen warren
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Maybe turn into a Elemental tornado

cobalt lotus
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Up to you

little talon
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Still gonna use Votex Beater over that.

ashen warren
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Fair

hollow shell
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@ashen warren Alright slow down there buddy

little talon
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No offense. Good idea, though.

ashen warren
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Ok @hollow shell

hollow shell
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(you also don't need the image)

ashen warren
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Thx, anything that could be added to make it viable with the Beater?

little talon
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How long does it usually take something with 50 stars to get sent?

ashen warren
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If it's good, about an hour

cobalt lotus
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Well then it gets checks

hollow shell
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Shouldn't take more than like
2 days

ashen warren
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If it's my quality, 2 months

little talon
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It's been 3 days.

hollow shell
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Whose suggestion?

little talon
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My own.

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The Yharim's Army one.

ashen warren
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Post Scal content very risky man.

little talon
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I'm an idiot.

ashen warren
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My suggestion is almost at 50 upvotes

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yAy

little talon
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Why did I honestly think that would get checked any time soon?

frank stratus
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wait

hollow shell
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It has a blue check

little talon
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I forgot where I was suggesting for.

hollow shell
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It cannot be sent

frank stratus
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don't mana stars heal 100 lol

little talon
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That was because it had a thing that was suggested before in it.

hollow shell
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Because like 60 billion people have suggested Yharim's Army before you, lol

ashen warren
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Oh yeah

hollow shell
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yeah

little talon
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They have?

hollow shell
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It's a very common suggestion

little talon
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I only heard of people talking about a castle, not the army.

glossy bough
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wait it takes 2 days for a 50* to get sent?

ashen warren
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Ok fixed

glossy bough
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cuz I have one from 8 days ago

hollow shell
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Prior to the advent of bluechecks we would get Yharim's Army and Plague Hives every few days

little talon
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Dang.

ashen warren
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After worldgen biome generation bad idea

arctic notch
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Team Four Star: Upgrade
Team Fifty Star: Perfect.

little talon
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And here I was thinking that I was being original.

ashen warren
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HyperEthanJudge Dude no memes

arctic notch
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Ok.

little talon
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There should be a pin for ideas that are a no-go.

hollow shell
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Dr. Bright all of your 50+ star suggestions are checked

little talon
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Or that are heavily asked.

arctic notch
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@ashen warren It only says not excessive memeing.

cobalt lotus
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There is

ashen warren
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What does check mean again

glossy bough
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wait a second he took my card suits idea

cobalt lotus
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Im pretty sure at least

little talon
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Where?

glossy bough
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reeee

little talon
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What are you talking about?

hollow shell
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Oh I see

cobalt lotus
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guess not

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theres only something about things that have already been implemented

cobalt lotus
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^ I really like that one

ashen warren
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Bright, I think it was unintended

hollow shell
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You both stole card ideas from
Deltarune

glossy bough
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I know lel

little talon
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Yeah, but they're vastly different.

arctic notch
glossy bough
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and my card idea was not from deltarune lmao

little talon
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Same.

glossy bough
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it was Isaac fam

arctic notch
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Wat.

little talon
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2 of Clubs.

arctic notch
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You plat TBoI?

little talon
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Gimme dem bombs.

ashen warren
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Off-Topic. Relocate or terminate.

glossy bough
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2 of Diamonds is highly busted in BoI but yeah Offtopic

ashen warren
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2od is my man in greedmode

tropic yoke
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Trench Maker: Post-Plantera Rocket Launcher
Fires 2-3 homing Abyss Rockets at once. Abyss Rockets deal damage three times, inflict 'Crush Depth', and explode into 2-3 pieces of shrapnel.

Crafting:
1 Rocket Launcher
30 Depth Cells
10 Lumenyl
5 Tenebris

little talon
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I honestly think there should be more added to the Brimstone Crags.

ashen warren
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I feel like all your weapons are related to the abyss somehow

little talon
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There's not much there and it has so much potential.

tropic yoke
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Pretty much :P

ashen warren
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The old design was better according to some people

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What about have some brimstone crags rouge weapon stuff

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Or something

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Idk

glossy bough
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where are the Core/Essence summons NMF

ashen warren
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Brimblade mate.

tropic yoke
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In hell

glossy bough
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fuck

little talon
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I just think the biome is too small and lack-luster.

ashen warren
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Hah

tropic yoke
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I'm taking a break from core stuff.

glossy bough
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ok

ashen warren
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Make Calamitas spawn there

tropic yoke
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How's the trench maker?

arctic notch
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Good.

little talon
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That'd seem like a death sentence, though. At least lore-wise.

tropic yoke
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Should I suggest it?

glossy bough
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seems a bit redundant mechanics-wise

ashen warren
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Sprite fantastic, not post plant maybe?

tropic yoke
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?

ashen warren
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Make it post SCAL

glossy bough
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all your stuff seems to implement fragmentation of projectiles

tropic yoke
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What about the rocket then?

glossy bough
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or spawning more

tulip fulcrum
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Yeah, brimstone crags need some love

little talon
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Everyone has their own theme, Doctor.

tropic yoke
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Rockets are post-Plantera

ashen warren
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How about a reverse daedelaus rocket launcher

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Yeah

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You can craft them

tropic yoke
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Erm...

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Oh, craftable

glossy bough
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But that's what Rocket launcher is for smh

tropic yoke
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cool then, I guess.

glossy bough
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and PML and GL

ashen warren
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Mineral Mortar

tropic yoke
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pml gl?

glossy bough
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proximity mine launcher and grenade launcher

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context

ashen warren
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Brain ded. What is GL?

glossy bough
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read above lel

ashen warren
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Heck

glossy bough
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but yeah fragmenting bullets is what stynger is for

ashen warren
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I need coffee or sleep. But yeah^

little talon
#

Well, he probably loves that mechanic, Bright.

glossy bough
#

too much of that mechanic becomes boring

little talon
#

It sucks when you can only use a mechanic at one stage of the game.

arctic notch
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Like the Arkhalis.

ashen warren
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Redundancy tho.

glossy bough
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^

ashen warren
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Tho Arkhalis

little talon
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That's what the Murasama is for.

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The same, but stronger.

ashen warren
#

We got that bad Post ML sword

glossy bough
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imo, maybe leave stynger/"sterile" mechanics to the Core weapons

arctic notch
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We need a HM one.

glossy bough
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give abyss stuff something unique

ashen warren
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Like the typhon's Greed?

tropic yoke
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Rocket I crafting recipe: 70 Explosive Bullets + 1 Hallowed Bar @ HM Anvil= 70 Rocket Is

Trench Maker: Post-Calamitas Rocket Launcher
Fires 2-3 homing Abyss Rockets that spawn off-screen (below the cursor). Abyss Rockets deal damage three times, inflict 'Crush Depth', and explode into 2-3 pieces of shrapnel.

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(I removed the Rocket Launcher btw)

ashen warren
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You need to look in the wiki.

tropic yoke
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?

ashen warren
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Under vanilla crafting.

tropic yoke
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???

ashen warren
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You can craft rockets already.

tropic yoke
#

oh

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x'D

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How's the launcher then?

ashen warren
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Nice

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Calamity Mod Wiki

The Devil Fish is an enemy that spawns in the 1st and 2nd layers of the Abyss. It remains passive, swimming back and forth, until the player reaches under 1/4 of their max health, after which it will become aggressive and attempt to attack the player. Its mask also protects i...

tropic yoke
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Fucking horrifying.

lucid marsh
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Didn’t know about that

hollow shell
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Calamity Mod Wiki

The Chaotic Puffer is an enemy that spawns in the 4th layer of the Abyss. It slowly swims towards the player and inflicts the Brimstone Flames debuff on contact, while periodically puffing up every 5 seconds. While it is unable to damage the player while not puffed, if it hit...

tropic yoke
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lvl. 99 Nightmare Fuel

ashen warren
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Thx Snow

hollow shell
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2

tropic yoke
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lmao

lucid marsh
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Oops

tropic yoke
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Did it

ashen warren
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Neet

tropic yoke
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UwU snow

weary walrus
#

I thought mana star (drop) only recover 100 mana each

lunar berry
#

o yea

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did u know that scarlet surge is a level in geometry dash

weary walrus
#

@ashen warren

lunar berry
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interesting fact of the day

ashen warren
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Dude

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Yeah I edited it

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Don’t worry

weary walrus
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Oh

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Sorry

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Wait

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Why I can’t see it?

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The edit

ashen warren
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Odd

weary walrus
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Drunk phone sucks

hollow shell
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I can't see it either

weary walrus
#

What?

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Yeah fix it

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I mean

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Maximum mana with mana star only is 200

ashen warren
#

Does anyone have any ideas for a nebula upgrade like the Mourningstar or Phangasm

lunar berry
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well

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idk

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upgrade to shadecrystal bareEge

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?

round falcon
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Nebula Blaze + SCB?

ashen warren
round falcon
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It's only 100 mana healed/star.

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??

ashen warren
#

Oh

hollow shell
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Yeah it should be 200 and 100

ashen warren
#

I’m a imbecile

hollow shell
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not 400 and 200

ashen warren
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Someone told me 200

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Lol

hollow shell
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Yeah, the doubled one

lunar berry
#

oof

round falcon
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So it's basically a coin toss.

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RNG is very favorable for me lately, so this may be super broken with good luck LULigi

weary walrus
#

Yes

round falcon
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And you can't complain as 50/50 is fair and balanced

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unlike random crits from a certain hat-based fps

weary walrus
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If only that’s the drop chance of the cosmic discharge

ashen warren
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I’m thinking of early game weapontypes we don’t see much

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Like guns

cobalt lotus
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m i n i s h a r k

weary walrus
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Actually opal striker is early

ashen warren
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No, I mean like early early

weary walrus
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Or just musket or undertaker

ashen warren
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Pumpler

cobalt lotus
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yeah Minishark is pre boss

weary walrus
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Pumpler is post eoc

ashen warren
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Ech

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No, I mean like you can get it in like 4 minutes

weary walrus
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Yeah

ashen warren
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Marnite rifle

weary walrus
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Musket

cobalt lotus
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undertaker / musket

weary walrus
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Take some block and bombs

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There you go

ashen warren
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Marnite LUL

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Yeah

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You need Bombs for those and you must find the biome

cobalt lotus
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or hammer to HOIK

weary walrus
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Starter bag has bombs

ashen warren
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Worse than wulfrum

weary walrus
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Those biomes is rng base

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Granite thingy

ashen warren
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Yeha

round falcon
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Wood Pellet Gun

weary walrus
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Unlike crimson or corruption

ashen warren
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I was thinking a gun made with wood and iron

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"You need Bombs for those" pots drop bombs and wooden chests can have them

round falcon
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Short idea time

ashen warren
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Red Ryder.

cobalt lotus
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You would have to get bullets anyway, which would require the armsdealer. At that point you could get minishark / the pistol he sells

weary walrus
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Super rng base

cobalt lotus
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forgot name

ashen warren
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Flintlock

cobalt lotus
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thats the one

weary walrus
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Early game flamethrower would be nice

ashen warren
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Why don’t we get a flintlock in the starter bag

weary walrus
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If you have a lot of gel tho

cobalt lotus
#

whats the point of an early early game gun with bows available literally when you create your world

weary walrus
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Because we already have copper bow

ashen warren
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Woodbow

weary walrus
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Bows are decent enough

ashen warren
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Because the flintlock is actually quite strong?

weary walrus
#

It was copper I swear

cobalt lotus
#

and its bought from an npc for a decent amount, making it redundant for that npc to sell it

round falcon
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Wooden Pellet Gun
Like a BB, but wood.
Shoots Wood Balls, 1 wood at a work bench makes 15. Can also be used as a really early Rogue variant of Spiky Balls.
Made with 15 Wood and 2 Iron Bars at a Work Bench.
Fired pellets are affected by gravity and act like the thrown variants but do ranged damage.
Stone Pellet
One Stone makes 15
Splits on contact with an enemy/block into two Pebbles, which are weaker but pierce.
Flaming Pellet
1 Torch + 15 Wood Pellets makes 15
Like Wood Pellets, but on fire.

ashen warren
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Especially when compared with copper

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Week AF

round falcon
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That's the point™

weary walrus
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Bows are better

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Fight me

cobalt lotus
#

^

round falcon
#

I won'

weary walrus
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I mean

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Easy to access

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Easy to make ammo

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Not insanely hard to aim

ashen warren
#

Wulfrum Bow good til Seabow

round falcon
#

I was going to add that other ammo variants and upgrades would be available

weary walrus
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Or just farm for mandible bow

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Pretty early game

cobalt lotus
#

just no hit bosses until you can go to hell and make hellwing

weary walrus
#

Hellwing what?

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Bow or staff?

cobalt lotus
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hellwing bow

weary walrus
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Good luck with skel

ashen warren
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Post skele my dude

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Make hellwing?

cobalt lotus
#

wait i meant molten fury

ashen warren
#

Molten Fury my dude.

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Oh

round falcon
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Added extra pellet types

ashen warren
#

I just type slow

round falcon
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it's supposed to be earlygame and not have much use save being a gun

marsh gust
#

hellwing staff is good as well tho

ashen warren
#

Does the arms dealer move in once you have it?

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But that's mage

weary walrus
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Hellwing: OK
Vivid Clarity: God no

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Bad upgrade tbh

cobalt lotus
#

is vivid even good

marsh gust
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vivid clarity : you stupid/very smart

weary walrus
#

Yes

ashen warren
#

Anyone actually use VC?

marsh gust
weary walrus
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I do use it

marsh gust
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999IQ staff

weary walrus
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But it sucks to much mana

cobalt lotus
#

I think voltaic climax is like way better

ashen warren
#

I meme with it, but it is just awful.

round falcon
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AD won't move in

marsh gust
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idk i get decent DPS with it

weary walrus
#

True

ashen warren
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Vivid can be really good if you are big brain

round falcon
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It's just an early gun that should help exploration

weary walrus
#

But not really viable for scal

marsh gust
cobalt lotus
#

in theory it should be good for SCal becuase it bounces off of walls so much in the small box

weary walrus
#

Voltaic is better

round falcon
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Plus, fire + lasting

marsh gust
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'in theory'

round falcon
#

unlimited light

weary walrus
#

Actually its tile limit is 108

marsh gust
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yea but ppl doesnt know how to bounce beams off walls

ashen warren
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Volty better, capiche?

weary walrus
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So yeah bouncing doesn’t works as intended

marsh gust
#

do you guys think a daedalus stormbow upgrade for post provi will be good?

weary walrus
#

Plus it can’t shoot up

cobalt lotus
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no fuck that

ashen warren
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"daedalus stormbow upgrade" Omegalul

cobalt lotus
#

we dont need more cheesebow

marsh gust
ashen warren
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Divine retribution, but that's for mage

round falcon
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we have one its called The Storm

cobalt lotus
weary walrus
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I though planetary annihilation was an upgrade of it

ashen warren
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Planetary Anihil is bad.

marsh gust
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wait, im a mage one trick idk about those

ashen warren
#

I use Cheese instead

round falcon
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"Planetary Anal" hyperthink

cobalt lotus
#

Sun God Staff upgrade?

ashen warren
#

Sure

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Offtopic?

cobalt lotus
#

Aight ill make one

marsh gust
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yea it is hmm

round falcon
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I'm trying to see if anyone likes my earlygame Rogue/Ranger wep concept.

weary walrus
#

I suggested an upgrade for sun god once

marsh gust
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its a post ML thing tho

weary walrus
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Ikr

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Dark sun tier

cobalt lotus
#

I was thinking ceaseless tier

ashen warren
#

Yeah

weary walrus
#

Should be viable for scal

ashen warren
#

Makes since

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Since lol

cobalt lotus
#

mini ceaseless void above head and it shoots out dark plasma or whatever

marsh gust
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i think ima suggest a post-provi version just cause provi has icarus' folly debuff LULW and daedalus is icarus' dad

weary walrus
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Its name was dark sun spirit lul

ashen warren
#

^

round falcon
#

So, to recap:

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Wooden Pellet Gun
Like a BB, but wood.
Shoots Wood Balls, 1 wood at a work bench makes 15. Can also be used as a really early Rogue variant of Spiky Balls.
Made with 15 Wood and 2 Iron Bars at a Work Bench.
Fired pellets are affected by gravity and act like the thrown variants but do ranged damage.
Stone Pellet
One Stone makes 15
Splits on contact with an enemy/block into two Pebbles, which are weaker but pierce.
Flaming Pellet
1 Torch + 15 Wood Pellets makes 15
Like Wood Pellets, but on fire.
Exotic Pellet Gun
Made with 30 of any non-Forest Wood and 5 Silver Bars.
Exotic Pellet
1 non-Purity wood makes 25.
Each wood type creates a different type of Exotic Pellet effect.
Palm- more damage, less roll
Ebon/Shade- more roll, less damage
Mahog/Boreal- Inflicts Poison/Chilled, respectively.
Pearl/Mono (why would you make them? oh well, they exist) - low chance to inflict Holy Flames/GSI but does virtually no damage nor crit, does not pierce, bounce, or roll

cobalt lotus
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Wht should it be added

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Why*

ashen warren
#

ok im back from walking my dogs

cobalt lotus
#

just curious for why you think an item like this should be in the game

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with wooden bow and flaming arrows

round falcon
#

Early game gun alt

ashen warren
#

Guns are terrible early-game though

round falcon
#

Basically, almost all of them pierce and have some special effect.

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It'd be decent for early-game as Iron and Wood are easy to get.

ashen warren
#

This one sounds like a dirt sword in terms of damage

cobalt lotus
#

I agree

round falcon
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I didn't say the damage would be hellish.

cobalt lotus
#

With good weapons like slime staff and copper bow literally right out the gate, it would become redundant unless someone is doing a gunslinger playthrough and cannot access undertaker / musket right away

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and everyone can because bombs are in starter bag

round falcon
#

fair point

ashen warren
#

Jester arrows outclass any gun earlygame anyway

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And frostfire arrows

cobalt lotus
#

and there is also no need for an early game gun because the only boss you will be facing is king slime that early on

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and desert scourge is a piece of cake with slime staff

round falcon
#

alright

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im gonna leave this idea to drop into obscurity then

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that's the first time i've had an idea shot down in here

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oh well, can't win every battle

cobalt lotus
#

I like the idea, but it's just outclassed instantly by what you receive in your starter bag

round falcon
#

Maybe I'll change some things up. Maybe I won't.

ashen warren
#

@trim raptor Explain. Do you mean the old yellow purple Astral Brick?

cyan lagoon
#

What else could it be...?

ashen warren
#

I made a starter gun idea in suggestions

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def not perfect but I think itd be cool

cobalt lotus
#

Again I don't think a starter gun is needed

weary walrus
#

Musket/undertaker exist

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Bombs in starter bags exist

cobalt lotus
#

Undertaker and Musket are available within 10 minutes of gameplay and bow with fire arrows can last you until that point

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slime staff is a beast pre boss and will defend you from anything

weary walrus
#

Why do you even need to make a new one tho

ashen warren
#

Because I think it would be interesting for multiplayer and whatnot

weary walrus
#

Well calamity doesn’t really support multiplayer

molten hearth
#

^

weary walrus
#

But if you want then go for it

cobalt lotus
#

but what would make it interesting

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2 starter bags makes it easier to get undertaker / musket

weary walrus
#

^

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Actually no

ashen warren
#

also my man half the weapons in this mod are pointless, so cant complain about one weapon being pointless when theres many

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also youd have to get lucky

weary walrus
#

Dafuq?

cobalt lotus
#

no

ashen warren
#

two orbs only and only one is a guarantee

cobalt lotus
#

musket and undertaker guaranteed first try

weary walrus
#

You can always break more

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And make the summon items later

tulip fulcrum
#

I dunno about the break more part

cobalt lotus
#

dying wouldnt matter unless its hardcore

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and why would you play hardcore calamity

ashen warren
#

Also on large worlds its a pain in the ass

cobalt lotus
#

put money in chests

weary walrus
#

Walking?

ashen warren
#

Id rather just get a gun via mining if it were the choice

tulip fulcrum
#

What moss said^

ashen warren
#

The spaces are annoying af

cobalt lotus
#

he was trying to make more lines i think

ashen warren
#

shift + enter avoids formatting issues like that btw

cobalt lotus
#

^

ashen warren
#

Doesnt show up like that for me

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Also I barely ever use discord on Pc so idfk what im doing

ashen warren
#

Also, the message after is not required

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ok ill fix that

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Edit your post please and thank

marsh gust
ashen warren
#

Everyone, go on mobile.

molten hearth
#

^

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I always use mobile

marsh gust
#

Henk i wanna escape mobile hell

tulip fulcrum
#

Pff

brazen wedge
#

lol

cobalt lotus
#

its just not a good suggestion

#

imo

weary walrus
#

Me too

cobalt lotus
#

There are alternatives right away

weary walrus
#

Mobile sucks

cobalt lotus
#

You can get a gun very quickly

#

Better weapons than that come from the starter bag

ashen warren
#

tbh discord on here doesnt feel fluent

#

feels clunky

cobalt lotus
#

how do you mean

ashen warren
#

how do you mean? Did you phrase that right

ashen warren
#

You could just be like a normal person and say "what do you mean" or just say "explain please"

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I mean explain is one word so its not a hastle

cobalt lotus
#

ok then

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explain

#

how is is clunky

ashen warren
#

The layout doesn't feel precise and also just the images and emotes, everything just feels like it takes too long to do

#

That's called your phone is slow

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That makes no sense at all, im arguing about how mobile feels better

#

I think you got it the other way around

cobalt lotus
#

not everyone can use mobile

#

and the majority use PC

ashen warren
#

You said "tbh discord on here doesnt feel fluent" right after people were talking about mobile

#

'On here' I was referring to Pc, since we were on the topic of how idfk how to manage discord on pc

#

I don't know how you find pc discord to be clunky since it's built around being not that

cobalt lotus
#

off topic

ashen warren
#

Offtopic though >_>

#

This server is so anal about off topic conversations, like its bound to happen

radiant meadow
#

Well you should steer back on topic

marsh gust
#

i thought pinkie explained to you alrdy

cobalt lotus
#

There is channels for everything

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so why speak about one thing in a channel for another

ashen warren
#

Also guys this is being off topic, so if you are going to stick by your rules this conversation ends here
Also pinkie did explain, but it's a explanation I cannot see value in

cobalt lotus
#

ok back on topic

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I dont feel a need for your suggestion

#

i think the effort you put in is appreciated but i dont feel like the need for it is there

weary walrus
#

Remove your message or edit it in your old one

ashen warren
#

Yeah I heard you the first time

cobalt lotus
#

dont take offense to it

#

you made a bad suggestion

#

it happens

weary walrus
#

Dude

#

Make it one message

cobalt lotus
#

the point of this channel is to decide if something fits in the game

unique vector
#

if you cannot see the value of an explanation ask for further clarification

ashen warren
#

I'm saying theres no need to repeat yourself, not that im getting mad

unique vector
#

if you don't do that you might as well be acting petty

weary walrus
#

@ashen warren?

#

The message

#

Don’t leave it alone

ashen warren
#

?

weary walrus
#

Make it one message

unique vector
#

"i dont see the value of so and so's explanation but im not bothering to ask them if they could explain it better"

ashen warren
#

Ok eye you can stop bugging me now

weary walrus
#

Alright

hollow shell
#

@pliant bone They could just pin it...

radiant meadow
#

They could

pliant bone
#

Oh

radiant meadow
#

but who reads those

pliant bone
#

But you know most people

#

^

hollow shell
#

Two channels is a very
not good
way to handle that

radiant meadow
#

Well, we can always yell at people to read pins

brazen wedge
#

haha yes

pliant bone
#

Can I remove my suggestion?

hollow shell
#

You can if you want

pliant bone
#

I think I get ya

frank stratus
#

bosses dodging

marsh gust
#

bosses will do walking strat against you

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LULW or even circling

frank stratus
#

circle-ception tbh 🗿

marsh gust
#

you should try to circle a circle that is circling you

frank stratus
#

lmfao

hollow shell
#

@quiet plank You're gonna need to be way more specific and/or provide reasoning for that
(You do know how hard that'd be to program, right?)

quiet plank
#

i know it would be, but it would make fights a lot more interesting

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even if its just a simple slow moving dodge away from incoming projectiles

hollow shell
#

If you edit your suggestion to elaborate more, then I'll star it

#

(assuming it's a
sufficient amount of elaboration)

marsh gust
#

easiest way to impliment that is to give bosses have a chance to dodge an attack but yea...

frail mantle
#

Doesn’t Hive Mind sorta dodge away from projectiles already

hollow shell
#

Nah I don't think his dashes are reactant to projectiles

#

He just dashes sometimes
and sometimes they happen to cause him to dodge stuff :P

ashen warren
#

Having it that if you have a dps rating that enters into no-hit disqualification for longer than 5 seconds then they get a progressively higher dodge chance seems alright

frail mantle
#

If that is implemented, perhaps just make this active when Armageddon has been used

ashen warren
#

That's the only way I'd tolerate that tbh

sleek wadi
#

Also having bosses dodge sounds like a great way to accidently despawn bosses.

#

Shoot at it off-screen, it reacts and moves in some way, then you get out of its active range and suddenly Siren is nyooming herself into nothingness.

#

Or if it's having bosses randomly just not take damage from a projectile, then that's just an RNG time waster.

frail mantle
#

Also, bosses that dodge will probably be annoying as heck to fight even if they dont despawn

ashen warren
#

"that enters into no-hit disqualification" AKA when you're killing P1 doggo in 10 seconds or something

sleek wadi
#

People hate Motherboard from Tremor for various and numerous reason. Motherboard just straight up fuckin' leaving is one of those reasons.

frail mantle
#

^

weary walrus
#

That’s a very lazy suggestion

#

Add explanation please

earnest raptor
#

Depressive Slasher
Post-Calamitas melee weapon
38 melee damage
Speed: 12 (5 swings per second)
Tooltip:
Makes enemies cry
Right click to wash a enemies in tears
Inflicts Temporal Sadness for 6 seconds.

Right click: with Snail (75) speed shoots a infinitely piercing stream of tears, which inflicts Temporal Sadness for 30 seconds.

Craft: Teardrop Cleaver + Broken Hero Sword + 10 Depth Cells + 10 Lumenyl + 10 Tenebris @ Mythril Anvil

why : TC are funny weapon, which relatively weak, but can stun enemies, even bosses. What's about Hardmode upgrade?

Sprite: very bad state, I can't draw normally.

weary walrus
#

I’m trying to think of a new name for it

earnest raptor
#

Edited.

frail mantle
#

If the only use of the weapon is to stun enemies, why would you need an upgrade

#

maybe make it shoot teardrop projectiles that also inflict TS

earnest raptor
#

Edited.

frail mantle
#

better

ashen warren
#

I prefer crippling depression tbh

earnest raptor
#

Okay

frail mantle
#

make the tooltip “jumps down from car hoodHenkhenk

ashen warren
#

Too bad it never got sent

frail mantle
#

btw that was a joke dont actually make that the tooltip

frank stratus
#

yeah lmao

earnest raptor
#

Added tooltip.

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jumps down from car hood
Sorry, I can't get into your humor.

#

what

frank stratus
#

lmao

frail mantle
#

It’s an old meme from iDubbz

earnest raptor
#

Why my suggestion marked with pain?

frail mantle
#

Ask aleksh

low hedge
arctic wren
low hedge
#

tfw more pain than ⭐

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a mods gonna need to remove it now fuck

frail mantle
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Tfw that face when

faint rivet
frank stratus
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LOL

weary walrus
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What is that emo?

frank stratus
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LMAO WHAT HAPPENED

weary walrus
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Nice name tbh

frank stratus
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i got nerfed tho xd

weary walrus
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I thought of emotional slasher but gotta go then

pliant bone
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Emotional Crit

weary walrus
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👍

frail mantle
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Emotional K.O.

novel pebble
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My emotions

faint rivet
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Inb4 50 pain before 50 ⭐

frank stratus
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lmao yes lets do it

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if we get 50 pain = instantly implemented jk

faint rivet
novel pebble
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Music boxes are in the Music mod.

ashen warren
hearty sand
faint rivet
frail mantle
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Tfw face when Trashbox’ suggestion has twice as many pain as stars

faint rivet
frail mantle
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His suggestion is basically just a supreme meme now

frank stratus
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mlfao

low hedge
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fuck

faint rivet
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Lol

sturdy latch
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@wicked swift Like fargos where you right click the item and it becomes that damage variant?

wicked swift
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Nah, just crafting by hand

sturdy latch
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Oh, ok

weary walrus
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Neat suggestion

sturdy latch
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It would seem a tad bit easier to just right click

weary walrus
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Nah i think add a recipe is easier to code than right clicking

sturdy latch
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Ah

wicked swift
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And making that recipe is easier than including the other version in the other recipe I think.

sturdy latch
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Mkay.

ashen warren
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Crafting gives reforges

wicked swift
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Oh, right.
Hmm...

faint rivet
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I think it would just be better if you could only craft rogue disk with rogue variants, etc.

ashen warren
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I presume fargo's changed it from recipes for that reason

wicked swift
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Next best thing

hollow shell
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@low hedge Did you do that pain

low hedge
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yeah

hollow shell
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Please don't do that

low hedge
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i thought i could remove it afterwards

hollow shell
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@tepid wadi Could you remove those?

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From Bobylev's suggestion

tepid wadi
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uh hold on

frank stratus
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hue nu

hollow shell
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Thank you Meta

tepid wadi
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Done

novel pebble
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Rip pain

faint rivet
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No, pain

waxen pike
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Why the sudden change from throwing to rouge does that effect the ones that still say throwing ?

ashen warren
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@waxen pike Rogue is easier to program because it's a new damage type instead of a vanilla one, and no. Rogue stuff isn't affected by throwing accessories and armor.

waxen pike
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So Fargo doesn’t work then with the melee to throwing

pliant bone
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Nope

hollow shell
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Fargo's gotta add Throwing to Rogue now daryl

cyan lagoon
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too bad he won't be doing that for a while until he re-adds cross mod compatibility

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oh wait nvm he did thorium, nothing else yet ig

weary walrus
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Wait he will?

cyan lagoon
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not set in stone yet

weary walrus
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I will look forward to it then

hollow shell
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What happened?

weary walrus
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??

hollow shell
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Fargo un-added crossmod compatibility?

cyan lagoon
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he got rid of it temporarily because it kept fucking up his mod

tropic yoke
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Heyo what’s all this thorium talk about?

hollow shell
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Fargo talk

weary walrus
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What?

cyan lagoon
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mutant and abombinationn mod compatibility still survived

hollow shell
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Oh ok

tropic yoke
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I wonder what music will play during the sentinels and DoG.

hollow shell
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Boss 3 for SW, Boss 2 for CV, and iirc Boss 2 for Signus
That's what they were before

tropic yoke
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Oh

hollow shell
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Not sure about DoG, maybe Moon Lord's theme actually

weary walrus
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Yeah

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It fits him the best

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On second thought it’s not

cyan lagoon
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Signus' was Boss 5, rover

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the golem boss track

hollow shell
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SCal's definitely getting Boss 2
I think that's obvious

Yharon... might get Boss 1?

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ah thanks

tropic yoke
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Queen bee theme for signus or CV

weary walrus
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Yharon i think boss 5 suits him

cyan lagoon
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neither

tropic yoke
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Aww

pliant bone
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Yharon gets the same treatment as duke fishron.
LUL

tropic yoke
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^

weary walrus
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:p

hollow shell
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Thats my logic yeah

cyan lagoon
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Wait, will Hive Mind's track shift from boss 2 to boss 3 as it did beforehand?

hollow shell
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That'd be interesting

cyan lagoon
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I think that's what it did before Filthy Mind was implemented

hollow shell
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I know it changed to 3 but I'm unsure if it was 2 beforehand

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also inb4 Polterghast gets Plantera's theme

weary walrus
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What’s inb4?

hollow shell
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"in before"
You say it as a prediction

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like "I'm calling it"

weary walrus
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Oh ok

placid perch
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Oh shoot, I don't know when this happened but my flashlight suggestion is at 50! Thanks everyone!

weary walrus
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Still have to wait if the devs decide to add it or not

placid perch
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True, but at least it got enough stars

tender obsidian
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@ashen warren don't need to convert them to rouge completely. imksushi's mod can do that if you need something

ashen warren
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Yeah but it would make more sense to be a official thing that’s added

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Also please no pings ^^

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Also by rebalance I mean a mechanics rework

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You make my job too easy. It's "u" after "g" if you spellin' 'Rogue'.

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And also, vanilla boomerangs won't have variants.

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@harsh latch Please be specific.

tender obsidian
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some sort thonk

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he probably means homing

ashen warren
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Was that confirmed, also dude you don’t need to argue and or ping people for every suggestion you don’t like

tender obsidian
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thonk prepare for beef

ashen warren
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Yeah, due to the Vanilla Spaghetti, some things are left to die.

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I’m just saying why ping

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So I can get their attention.

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Yeah but sometimes, (most of the time) people would rather not be bugged

tender obsidian
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then turn on DND

ashen warren
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You would rather not be bugged

cyan lagoon
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@harsh latch do you mean uelibloom

ashen warren
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Like if they want to see discussion about their suggestion they’ll just come over here if they cared

cyan lagoon
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there's already a chlorophyte bullet ;v

ashen warren
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Also I forgot about Uli billets

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*bullets

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Autocorrect

tender obsidian
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lol

ashen warren
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Mortal Rounds lol

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Really, I thought Orpheus' suggestion was a request for vanquisher bullets.