hmm exodium would work with the colour of that
#suggestions-discussion
frank stratus
ashen warren
Looks like a cosmic anarchy bld
glossy bough
Exodium counter: 2
ashen warren
If only the pommel were larger.
frank stratus
oh god now that i look at it it looks like an exodium sword 
hollow shell
tropic yoke
frank stratus
spam counter tbh
glossy bough
Exodium counter: still 4 but it’s here because Fields bitches
tropic yoke
60 Exodium
hollow shell
Nice
glossy bough
Ok
tropic yoke
Ew
hollow shell
Sounds strange
tropic yoke
Health into mana
glossy bough
Aha he took my razing blaze suggestion
frank stratus
eh, i haven't actually had too many problems with mana
tropic yoke
cuz u don't use it hehe
ashen warren
Razing Blaze?
tropic yoke
Ye
tropic yoke
I thought Raze was a noun 
earnest raptor
Something Mode
"harder that death"
- Rage and Adrenaline removed.
- Defense and DR nullified.
- All flying creatures can fly through solid blocks.
- Bosses HP additionally increased by 30%.
- Life regeneration removed.
- You lose all moneys.
- Some chesse weapon turns into Angel Statues.
- In pre-hardmode you damage bonus cutes by 25%.
- But in post-all mech you recieve permament 12% bonus.
- Spawn rates are permamently 3x, then zerg increase that to 90x.
- Waifus deals 3.5x more damage.
- All free summon slots converts into summon damage bonus.
- Lava kills instantly.
- Debuffs deal 10x damage, but lasts 2.5x less time.
tropic yoke
Whoa
glossy bough
“Life regen removed”
hollow shell
smh another harder-than-Death-Mode suggestion
ashen warren
All bosses replaced with Scal
frank stratus
scal pre hm smh
glossy bough
Who was the first
round falcon
All bosses are replaced with Luigi.
tropic yoke
Let's not even bring up "Defense and DR nullified."
round falcon
hollow shell
Didn't you suggest something like "Demon Spider Mode" which was already a harder-than-Death suggestion, Bobylev?
tropic yoke
Just skim over that
arctic wren
use it for op waifus 
arctic wren
also why remove all your cash that's a bit daft
glossy bough
Who the fuck names something “Demon Spider Mode”
tropic yoke
You
glossy bough
No
frank stratus
no u
frank stratus
lmao
ashen warren
That's tryna be edgy, but failing.
glossy bough
I made a castle crashers reference to Insane Mode exactly once
hollow shell
It was a mistranslation iirc
Oh nevermind it was "Demonic Spider", which is a TVTropes entry for the enemies you dread to encounter in games
earnest raptor
@hollow shell yeah
frank stratus
x90 would hit the entity limit
earnest raptor
But calamity might be not enough hard even with DSM.
arctic wren
real men do zerg with 30x boosted default rates for 900x spawns
... I wonder what that would look like without any sort of mob limit
earnest raptor
I needs suffering in calamity
frank stratus
game crashes
keen nebula
When you say demonic spider mode
keen nebula
I imagine that kid that sang the eye of the tiger minecraft parody from 2012
glossy bough
Ruined
keen nebula
Its the eye of the spider it's poisonous and bites
Oh look out I'm an excellent fighterrr
hollow shell
"it poisons in one bite"*
keen nebula
The creepers and the zombies are the mobs of the night
Spiders give you some string and the eeeyyyeee
of the spiderrr
hollow shell
okay cool.
Anyway...
Yeah that mode sounds like donkey dick and you're better off just doing Death Defiled Armageddon Iron Heart
No need for something new
glossy bough
Someone needs to make an Eye of the Spider suggestion
hollow shell
They'd get warned instantly
glossy bough
Good good
Eye of the Spider
Early HM Rogue weapon
~~Throws a spinning spider eyeball that spews blood bits everywhere that deal 35% damage. ~~
~~Rare drop from Black Recluses. ~~
glossy bough
Also ^
radiant meadow
early hm rogue would like more weapons tbh
glossy bough
I was typing that
radiant meadow
you get spear of paleolith, ore consumables, and ichor spear pre cryogen
cursed dagger I guess but I don't think that is very good
then killing cryogen unlocks 3 more weapons because for some reason cryogen has 3 sets of weapons it unlocks
round falcon
i have a question for those on the latest version
do rogue damage boosts affect vanilla throwing
misty talon
No
glossy bough
I’m gonna risk a warn and sprite/post it tomorrow
hollow shell
@sudden ether That's cool.
misty talon
Rogue is completely separated from thrower due to code issues with thrower
hollow shell
Yeah they are completely separate classes now
s'much interaction as
melee and ranged
as in none
radiant meadow
if you make a sprite for the weapon and plan it out, you'll be fine
glossy bough
Sweet
radiant meadow
for the eye of the spider thingy, right?
glossy bough
Yes
radiant meadow
yeah, that sounds acceptable
glossy bough
Probably gonna base the sprite off of Minecraft’s but make it better because Minecraft’s spriting is dick
round falcon
Might make a cool yoyo
hollow shell
Worse than mage applies to all things 
sudden ether
my friend is playing mage and keeps getting upset at me for consistently doubling his dps as summoner
ornate falcon
I was pinged?
hollow shell
Don't worry about it, somebody messed up.
ornate falcon
Oh, ok.
glossy bough
Worse than mage applies only to true flail mechanics
But off topic I guess
Although if Mana Flower was removed entirely and you had to press a button to begin reloading mana but it took a lot shorter of a time to regen, then it would be fun
Like quick mana -> mana reload or something
Just saw Elita’s suggestion and thought of Core of the Blood God
Idk why though
terse sundial
Yeah, I can see that
tropic yoke
Is it ready?
tropic yoke
Yeah, why?
glossy bough
The big K is big gay
tropic yoke
Remove the left things?
glossy bough
Maybe shorten it and make them go right
And make the indentation larger because it just looks like “Helvic” atm
tropic yoke
tropic yoke
Posting...
narrow saffron
Been working a little, but this is a rough draft for a Fusion Cannon. (TF reference. Gonna make a matrix soon.)
Also, update on these guys.
tropic yoke
Thanks anonymous Administrator/Developer/Moderator
narrow saffron
They missed leg day.
glossy bough
Star was from termigator
radiant meadow
yes?
glossy bough
I didn’t even tag you
radiant meadow
but I'm watching
glossy bough
Don’t act like you just a ping
tropic yoke
UwU
narrow saffron
Oof
tropic yoke
There were 4 ⭐s in 1 minute!
narrow saffron
Well I mean.
tropic yoke
gtg 2 slep now
narrow saffron
Same here. Night bro.
tropic yoke
G'night! 👋
glossy bough
Ok night
narrow saffron
💤 👋
dusty stirrup
The font used in that image with the swords hurt my soul
dusty stirrup
there's some random letters that are larger/smaller than the others, the Bazing blade (with a weird b), the last letters being capitalized in the first word of a rows (while the others aren't)
also bigger spaces in some places for some reason
dusty stirrup
😔
earnest raptor
Assault Grenade Launcher
Post-ML rocket launcher
Left click: Launches a barrage of 3 grenades, which have a huge velocity, but affected by gravity. Consumes only one rockey.
Right click: 250% increased damage, but launches a only one slow grenade, which have a huge explosion power.
Craft: Assault Clockwork Rilfe + Grenade Launcher + 10 Bomb + 5 Galactica Singularity + 5 Luminite Bar @ Ancient Manipulator
spark flax
i think it was probably meant to be the Razing Blade but god if it doesn't absolutely look like it says Bazing
lmao Bazinga Blade
plush remnant
shy surge
sinful violet
spark flax
like if you cry every time
lucid marsh
My suggestion got 60+ stars and wasn’t sent
opal barn
Be patient, it will be soon
lucid marsh
Oh ok. Don’t know how that works
potent vortex
Why are you using a vanilla world tho
inland musk
potent vortex
Just create a world and cheat in some shit then you are done
devout seal
shut smelt
why would you play calamity mod on a vanilla world like
theres so much worldgen stuff added
youre missing out on so much
frank stratus
^
low hedge
planetoids cover most of the worldgen so yeah thays quite a lot
frail mantle
@stoic narwhal please state why you would like this change
stoic narwhal
frail mantle
I mean, for example Bumblebirb could just use Effulgent Feathers
ashen warren
It feels like it would just seem.. tacky I suppose
spark flax
if you want body-related drops from a boss as you progress just fight EoW/BoC
earnest raptor
Core's accessories
Cinder Glove
Craft: 10 Core of Cinder + Power Glove
15% increased melee speed
Hugely increases weapon's knockback
If enemy get hit with Extremely strong or higher knockback, their movement will disrupted
Eleum Cloak
Craft: 10 Core of Eleum + Star Cloak
On getting hit you releases a frostburn storm, which petrifies and hurts on-screen enemies
Hellbound Stone
Craft: 10 Core of Chaos + Magma Stone
Melee attacks inflicts Brimstone Flames and rarely Abyssal Flames
Pack of Three Elements
Craft: Cinder Glove + Hellbound Stone + Eleum Cloak + 2 Core of Calamity @ Ancient Manipulator
18% increased melee speed
Insanely increases weapon knockback
If enemy gets hit with Extremely strong or higher knockback, their movement will disrupted and body will burn
Oh getting hit you releases glacier storm, which heavily petrifies and hurts on-screen enemies
Melee attacks have moderately chance to inflict Abyssal Flames
Decent?
keen nebula
Better than demonic spider mode
earnest raptor
Maybe make Null Core accessory?
proven tide
Apparently not?
eager palm
@vale abyss can you delete your post from suggestions please
worthy fiber
Fixed the thing, anyway
opal barn
Imagine asking someone to delete something when you're a mod 
fossil torrent
that’s not allowed here
opal barn
Imagine being a nice moderator
vale abyss
sorry
eager palm
Why do you reply only just now smh
eager palm
Yeah just read the channel descriptions so you don't post the wrong thing into the wrong place
vale abyss
Ok
fossil torrent
he was unlucky to have #suggestions-voting be the first channel he posted wrong in 
vale abyss
I checked #rules and I still cannot find a channel where I can tell wiki editors about wiki oofs
am I allowed to say it here maybe?
opal barn
You either:
A) fix it yourself
B) ask for wiki contributor
eager palm
It's been fixed
opal barn
I'll just give you the role and you can ask in the special channel
vale abyss
okay!
fossil torrent
@brazen bramble Elaborate, make it more "formal", like add a recipe and small description
icy kelp
I figured it was literally same as vanilla sand
fossil torrent
Astral Glass and Astral Glass Wall
Glass:
Placeable Material
Just like normal glass, but with a different, astral-themed color and crafted from Astral Sand
Recipe: 2x Astral Sand(or 4x Astral Glass Wall)
Wall:
Placeable Material
Wall version of Astral Glass.
Recipe: 1x Astral Glass = 4 Walls
maybe?
@brazen bramble
brazen bramble
wasn't really my idea, i suggested that astral sand will make normal glass like the pearlsand, crimsand, and ebonsand
fossil torrent
Well then
brazen bramble
edited it a bit so it will be more clear
ashen warren
"Allow for different tinted colored Glasses" it's called paint
glossy bough
^
tiny rivet
the only way i’d really say that’d be welcome is if it had certain colours that paint couldn’t cover which is what i assume is what was in mind when that was suggested
bitter topaz
@molten hearth that would be a buff
molten hearth
How would that be a buff
bitter topaz
chaos state punishes using the RoD too fast.
you're suggesting removing literally the only punishment for using it
molten hearth
I'm not removing it
I'm saying Chaos state should make you unable to use RoD while a boss is alive
If a boss isn't alive, it would do what it currently does
bitter topaz
i'm pretty sure that's effectively removing it, then.
if not, that's still giving it a major buff
opal barn
While I will star the suggestion it's most likely won't be implemented because of this:
gusty geode
I still think it's not that it doesn't need a nerf, but rather that people aren't good enough to complete their no-hits without it
molten hearth
^
gusty geode
I say by all means make them suffer; it'd benefit them more in the long run if their get-out-of-jail-free card were taken away
bitter topaz
^
no-hitting is supposed to be a challenge. and taking away a penalty/ DQ reason is beyond stupid
but the RoD is only used for post-ml fyi, since it has no proper use over dashing until then
bitter topaz
that's what your suggestion does, though. it's a buff because you're taking away a penalty
molten hearth
My suggestion doesn't take away Chaos State, it just makes it a little more painful
i think
bitter topaz
dude, that mkaes chaos state less painful
opal barn
Taking away the ability to use it on bosses seems like a pretty powerful nerf to me
molten hearth
It forces you to take a hit if you used RoD recently
opal barn
Oh wait that's only when the debuff is in effect
ashen warren
in other words, it makes it piss easy to avoid the one downside to rod
molten hearth
There, I edited it. Now, my suggestion includes increasing the length of Chaos State
bitter topaz
just increasing the length seems fine.
the problem with your suggestion is that the RoD deals more damage than you're avoiding most of the time iirc, excluding death
a few edge cases exist, like DoG's head
gusty geode
I think the nerf should apply at all times
Remove the damage taken from using it and just prevent repeated usage all together
Rapid teleportation is busted no matter what the cost is
bitter topaz
the nerd
rapid tping kills you if you tp 7 times, and leaves you extremely vulnerable after 4
from the perspective of nohits, it's a direct buff
as there's no penalty for switching and using it a second too early
i'm not too sure how it'd work in normal gameplay, but from what i've seen it'd still end up being a buff most of the time.
gusty geode
Maybe just make it insta-kill you in Armageddon mode
bitter topaz
that should be a seperate suggestion imo, but honestly i would love that
cyan lagoon
@midnight pond could be better in a google doc, maybe?
No character limit there
ah nvm then
minions not being able to deal critical damage i think is hardcoded?
glossy bough
Dad big
hollow shell
I don't think it'd be impossible to fashion together a minion crit code
glossy bough
Das*
hollow shell
Might be hard, might be buggy
but possible
cyan lagoon
probably like a sun spirit situation
glossy bough
Crit isn’t consistent so I guess buggy is fine
cyan lagoon
where its the only minion that can deal crits for ?????
glossy bough
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren People may bat eyelashes at the recolor
I don't have much problems with it though.
Also, stats are frowned upon. They're going to be changed per Fabsol's discretion for balancing purposes regardless.
ashen warren
oof i like putting stats anyways even if they are trashed xd
ashen warren
its supposed to be an alternative so you can choose between the 2 types of debuffs so they have slight differences
but ill take note
hollow shell
You mean Cursed Inferno?
Because Cursed wouldnt affect enemies
ashen warren
I was gonna say
tropic yoke
Lmao hey @ashen warren
dark goblet
tropic yoke
^
tropic yoke
Lmao nice recolor
ashen warren
thank you >:)
tropic yoke
👌
ashen warren
frail mantle
i think it would be interesting to see spellbooks made of Cores
tropic yoke
Anything that makes magic viable
ashen warren
staves
tie
opal barn
Magic is viable through the whole game though 
little talon
For a detective, you're not that good at your job.
round walrus
How dare you
rapid pivot
Question; what do the white check marks mean?
quasi fable
white?
sturdy latch
Cleaving Glaive
An early-hardmode rogue weapon that pierces at least 10 times and hits enemies twice on the first 2 pierce hits.
Crafted using 15 Titanium/Adamantite Bars, 10 souls of night, and a titanium/adamantite spear.
Pre-Plantera HM rogue is almost just consumables, and it would be nice to see a multi-hit weapon similar to the wingman.
Thoughts?
tropic yoke
What’s throwing?
sturdy latch
Ah, i forgot the name changed to rogue
tropic yoke
Smh
sturdy latch
Boomerangs, Stars, some Spears
tropic yoke
Sounds really good for fighting Plantera.
sturdy latch
Also, destroyer
sturdy latch
Considering you can craft it before you fight any hm boss
tropic yoke
OwU
sturdy latch
Waiiiit, I think I might need thoughts from other people, kinda like a general vote and not a one person thing
tropic yoke
I’d use it if it got in.
sturdy latch
Paleolith reduces armor and fires projectiles, I think
This thing just pierces 10 segments max and all damage input comes from the main spear projectile
sturdy latch
tropic yoke
sturdy latch
That actually sounds really powerful, but would drop all pierce mechanics.
tropic yoke
After 10 hits, or with rhe first 2.
It can pierce and explode
Like the solar eruption
But rogue, and early-HM
Whoa 20 hits
dense girder
@tropic yoke Just wanted to say your suggestions are the absolute fucking best and I hope you never stop doing what you're doing ❤
tropic yoke
UwU
formal hinge
I think i have good mod idea, i came here to pass it, and im aware that i have no skill to make it and IF its so good someone makes it, im sure they have better ideas to expand it. Im here to tell the main consept.
Its soully a multiplayer roleplay mod, If you use somekind of consumable (works only on hardcore characters) , like a pact, before first boss is defeated, typical l enemies and bosses wont harm you because youve "joined their side" . There are only few threats to you, main one being the pther player. You can get equipment through diffferent methods than just killing bosses. The "evil" player gets a strong start (to prevent the good side from instantly going and killing them) the main point is that both sides grow stronger through the game and in the end the sides battle, ultimately to good dide winning. Or if there was dome knind of" mortality rune" accessory if the players want a fair fight. (should be calamity supported) just tell me what yall think
glossy bough
ashen warren
round falcon
imo that's a neat idea but tbh that aint smth calamity would support
frail mantle
also it would be a bitch to code
glossy bough
^
glossy bough
hasn't that already been suggested
lost agate
Y e p
glossy bough
yep
tropic yoke
Oof fluff puff
tropic yoke
Should I put the Ghastly Visage into the Cinder staff?
It's got a similar mechanic, but not a similar theme.
._.
Nvm
tropic yoke
narrow saffron
Fusion Cannon.
tropic yoke
What's a better name than "null staff"
Looks like a flashlight.
Is it a rocket launcher?
narrow saffron
Transformers reference.
narrow saffron
Finished the beam particles. Now to decide it should do...
narrow saffron
I got it.
vital grotto
aight what do y'all think of this
Dimensional Rift
Crafted From: Ultra Liquidator, 15 Cosmilite Bars, and 20 Phantoplasm
-Rapidly fires shreds of interdimensional energy from around the player (Constant steam of blades; no delay between bursts)
-Pink blasts are slower, but home in on enemies and inflict Godslayer Inferno
-Pink blasts summon second blasts on impact that also home in on enemies
-Blue blasts are much faster, but do not home and inflict Glacial State
-Blue blasts strike 2 more times on impact, similarly to Influx Waver
I think many of us can agree that Ultra Liquidator is pretty wack, and it wouldn't harm to have another post-DoG magic weapon, so here's my solution to both
Epic MS Paint Concept:
tiny rivet
isn’t the ultra liquidator supposed to inflict like ichor and cursed flames though, two very key debuffs because of defense and DR reduction, or was it just ichor
vital grotto
yeah i kinda tried to replace that with Glacial State
that and Godslayer Inferno does some defense reduction as well
tiny rivet
it sounds like a good idea but there are bosses (basically Yharon really) that are immune to glacial state but not ichor
narrow saffron
So here's a concept I'm working on a sprite for.
12 Cores that give buffs. Only one can be equipped at a time. Each one must be manually crafted using Uelibloom Bars, Crystal Dust, Exodium Clusters, and a gem relating to the actual core.
tiny rivet
Glacial State only really affects enemies so ichor would probably be good to tack on if the target is a boss, that way you can keep the original statistic but the primary use can be inherited only for bosses
narrow saffron
Well, actually... You think Matrixes would work better?
tropic yoke
I've sparked a spriting revolution.
tiny rivet
your work is a very good place to be inspired by tbh
red cape
Are there any sprites that for any weapons that could use a resprite? if so, which ones?
ashen warren
lvl 39 Jungle Tyrant, I think that you inspired a lot of people.
misty talon
Not really a level 100 boss though
ashen warren
He's getting there.
narrow saffron
OK, here's the 12 Matrixes. With the suggested changes, I'm moving it to Post D.o.G.
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Time Matrix: Once the player reaches 0 HP, rewind time by about 1-1.5 seconds. 2 minute cooldown.
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Solus Matrix: Increased Building Speed, Placement, mining Speed, Movement Speed, Damage Reduction buff, buffs active Sentries, allows for the deployment of more than one sentry.
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Power Matrix: Buffs Melee users. Each successful true Melee hits buff attack power until a maximum of +75% damage, rising in increments of 1%, but can do +15% damage to bosses.
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Trion Matrix: Massively Buffs Magic users. Each hit eenhances "knowledge" and once knowledge buff stack has reached 15, allows for user to "enlighten" enemies, dealing +75% damage to all enemies but only +15% damage to bosses.
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Quintus Matrix: Massively Buffs Summoners, Allows for more minions, 25% increase in damage if using non-summoner weapons, on a successful kill of enemy (not boss) spawn an undead version of that
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Alchemist Matrix: Massively Buffs Rogues, empowering flasks last longer, 50% chance to inflict a random debuff to the stricken enemy, and 5% chance to inflict a random buff to the player.
.
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Nexus Matrix: Massively Buffs Rangers, each successful shot increases evasiveness and chance to dodge an enemy attack, and buffs attack up to 35% but only 10% against bosses.
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Micronus Matrix: Gives buffs and boosts to other players within reasonable distance, makes player slightly smaller, all potions inflict potion sickness, at effect all healing and potion effects are buffed by 15% and shared with teammates.
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Onyx Matrix: All animal based enemies pre-hardmode are friendly, gives slight offensive stat boosts.
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Deceit Matrix: gives slight defensive stat boosts, chance to confuse, reduces contact damage, all pre-hardmode Corruption/crimson enemies are friendly.
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Amalgam matrix: When dismounting, on a mount, flying, or transitioning from a phase, gain a passive boost to stats, and gain a passive regeneration factor. The next potion consumed removes all buff received but boosts potion effect by 30%.
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Prime Matrix: Massive buffs to all stats at cost of being slower, Armor reduction, and bosses now deal x2 damage
vital grotto
those better be some damn good buffs from the prime matrix then
frank stratus
eh, if the bosses didn't do extra damage and armour reduction that would be the master tank buff
narrow saffron
I edited what is there, and hopefully its better. Opinions?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iYxHY_rVi2nlpDGY_okDvuTdt4uZoEOk2He-3jQPCgQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
ashen warren
"rewind time by about 1-1.5 seconds" That doesn't sound possible code-wise
narrow saffron
I feel it would work similar to Silva or Auric Armor.
ashen warren
Rewinding health is just a heal
This states: "All debuffs, status effects, and damage from then will be brought back"
narrow saffron
I'm gonna fix it, hold up.
ashen warren
"Empowering flasks last longer" What flasks?
narrow saffron
Flask of Fire, flask of Ichor, etc.
ashen warren
That's melee though
narrow saffron
I thought Throwing weapons still counted as Melee in vanilla.
ashen warren
Rogue weapons
narrow saffron
Apologies. Still getting used to that.
ashen warren
The point of the switch was to avoid spaghetti vanilla code
narrow saffron
Oh. I'll fix it.
ashen warren
Besides, I'm pretty sure that was a Daedalus armor thing
narrow saffron
So how's it look now?
ashen warren
Yharon doesn't have any worrying debuffs iirc however scal has hex and abyssal flames
Seems aight
I liked the wingtime thing though
This is the strongest death prevention effect
15% is eh so probably just 10%
narrow saffron
Removing Matrix of leadership, because it just seems broken what with all the buffs to the classes, and the effects it has.
ashen warren
Tbf it was post-scal but you have a point
"Can only do 15% bonus damage vs. Bosses." why you gotta do true melee like that?
ashen warren
Tbh I'd make it true melee only, melee is already pretty strong
narrow saffron
35% seem fair for True Melee players?
ashen warren
Seems good to me
Icicle is one of their best items and it doesn't scale with damage
"transitioning, or transforming from a phase" What do you mean by this?
narrow saffron
It's a thing from other mods where you can transform into different objects or animals.
ashen warren
They're still mounts, they just remove the player sprite
Anything that affects mounts should affect them
narrow saffron
Fixed.
ashen warren
"all potions will inflict and be affected by Potion Sickness" quick buff would break that
jsyk
narrow saffron
?
ashen warren
(note: not familiar with code so take this with a grain of salt) Quick buff consumes all buff potions on the next tick and potion sickness is applied after
narrow saffron
Huh. Hmm...
ashen warren
Meaning that you would lose one of the balancing factors
"if within 5 tile radius" you do realize how small that is?
narrow saffron
Mistype sorry.
ashen warren
15 is ok
The only one that confuses me now is the rogue one
"5% chance to apply a random buff to the player." is the only thing that works for a boss
Seems really weak imo
narrow saffron
Well some debuffs still work on bosses, so I think I can get rid of that if I just apply it to some specific debuffs.
ashen warren
Perhaps do something with crits or whatever since that's kinda rogues theme
keen nebula
Imagine if an accessory that messed with time got you stuck in an infinite loop
proven tide
@vestal comet What if it literally killed you as soon as you took damage
marsh gust
+20% damage tho 
ashen warren
Gratz on cd latte
marsh gust
ty
proven tide
'makes player immune to most' @narrow saffron
???
Immune to most what? Damage? Debuffs?
proven tide
Did this motherfucker just drop a google doc and then vanish offline without looking at feedback
Big smh 😤
hollow shell
Good lord that image
proven tide
Well, the doc's being edited, so that's something
hollow shell
Export please
proven tide
Most attacks it is
Also, the plural of matrix is matrices
Also also, can you please not make a new line for every tiny detail on the doc, it hurts my head
hollow shell
Nah that's fine. Recipes should be lined, and his descriptions are all unbroken
tropic yoke
I made 1 staff over the course of this whole day ;-;
I think this is why I hate magic :|
tepid root
proven tide
tropic yoke
Wait a minute...
What the f*ck am I going to do for summon?
narrow saffron
frank stratus
XD
tropic yoke
tyrant.isScared = true;
vestal comet
Make a duck staff kek
tropic yoke
This is why I wanted to do spellbooks
Ooh I'll just make books and the staves will be summon.
unique vector
tomes = best weapons
tropic yoke
Yos
tropic yoke
I've actually never done that.
I usually make the outline based on the razorblade typhoon, do sum cool shading, and spend an hour making the symbol in the middle grr
unique vector
lol
sleek wadi
The actual summons should be fairies designed after the cores
tropic yoke
What's a cool sounding name with the word "null" in it?
eager palm
nullnull
tropic yoke
I was thinking "Wrath of the Nullful"
ashen warren
Null Wrath sounds way cooler imo
tropic yoke
Wrath of Nullity x'D
Idk because the sword is "Null Blade", the stave will be "Null Wrath", and the bow will be "Calamitous Nullifier".
Kinda unbalanced naming imo
ashen warren
Null purge I suppose but that's really close to nano purge
Null void for summoner
Cause cosmic energy
ashen warren
ew, ugly name
tropic yoke
U wot m8?
ashen warren
It's overdetailed
tropic yoke
How about just annulling wrath?
tropic yoke
My bow is "eleus"
ashen warren
They have way more cool factor
tropic yoke
I think it helps with distinction.
ashen warren
Just look at Apotheosis
tropic yoke
Like... with 5 weapons that are based around a 4-letter word.
How is "Annulling Wrath"?
It's not too fancy.
ashen warren
Feels like a post-ml tier name imo
tropic yoke
WELP
tropic yoke
What would attract a lot of players to the item?
ashen warren
I mean, you could break the theme if you want.. nah nvm
So this is throwing or summon?
ashen warren
Still naming the staff?
lost agate
Null singularity
lost agate
ashen warren
Null storm, Null nebula, Null nova
lost agate
Null magika
tropic yoke
"Annuller's Storm"
marsh gust
Nullification powder
tropic yoke
Why is your GIF just a car turning it's headlights on?
eager palm
why is your pfp a sprite of yharim
marsh gust
cause shes a fairlady
ashen warren
"Annuller's Discord"
tropic yoke
owo
ashen warren
How 'bout that?
ashen warren
"Annuller's Entropy" or "Annulling Entropy" cause my vote is on the former
ashen warren
Cool and nice 👍
tropic yoke
Annulling Entropy is too open, and could pretty much go as anything. Annuler's shows that it can be possessed and used.
Throwing?
Whoa there's a GIF option
ashen warren
What does it do?
ashen warren
Nice, I really don't like naming things if I don't have a pre-established theme
ashen warren
Yes but melee and magic are themed on their respective items
Enforce is a true melee word imo
ashen warren
Sleep well 💤
ashen warren
Sleep. Well.
frail mantle
🔫 sleep
heavy mural
frank stratus
ashen warren
Calamity should appear in place of the Terraria logo on the main menu.
They can't because copyright or something
That doesn't seem true at all.
They'd need to have the OG logo somewhere on it and that ruins the logo
Like overhaul did
That makes sense because it's not called "The Overhaul Mod" it's called "Terraria Overhaul" and why would they recreate the Terraria logo when it's already there
By removing the "Terraria" logo and putting calamity there they are in a way stating that they own the game
Is how I believe the law goes
That's literally not how the law goes
Enlighten me
Removing the name from the product does not change the ownership
Especially if you are not selling the product
ruby cobalt
And especially if you're selling it.
ruby cobalt
Donations are optional.
ashen warren
He makes money from us, not for Calamity
Calamity is free
We support him with donations, but we are not buying the mod.
proven tide
<obligatory Wall of Text joke>
proven tide
Isn't it a magic gun?
unborn canopy
idk
weary walrus
It’s an upgrade of bubbles gun
unborn canopy
drat
proven tide
marsh gust
yea its a magic gun
weary walrus
^
unborn canopy
fixed
ashen warren
I never got the pinky thing tbh
weary walrus
Commit zerg
weary walrus
Yes
proven tide
Pink gel is actually bouncy
weary walrus
Bouncy is for pink
ashen warren
And that means it deserves to be more than a gimmick?
Smh put it in a doc @unborn canopy
proven tide
Yeah, this is doc territory
ashen warren
Well you done sent more than 2* messages
weary walrus
Understandable
unborn canopy
d0n't bully me it's my first time
ashen warren
"- Only post one or two suggestions at a time. We do enjoy all the ideas, but with the amount of people in the server, it can become overwhelming. If you want to suggest a complete overhaul to a certain mechanic or item group, put it in a document and post that instead."
ashen warren
"or item group"
weary walrus
Well can’t blame lv 1
ashen warren
People who don't read the pins deserve banishment
unborn canopy
noo
ashen warren
I am being like 80% sarcastic
weary walrus
weary walrus
Please, both of you, chill
ashen warren
Err, font is light gray on some of it
onyx wigeon
How is it post EoC?
weary walrus
After eoc
onyx wigeon
I know what it means
onyx wigeon
cant you just fish up the Reaver Shark?
weary walrus
With normal game progression, you can’t mine that ore
But if you decided to cheese, then ok then
ashen warren
It's not "cheese" it's sequence breaking which the calamity mod encourages
onyx wigeon
People cheese all the time so yeah. If people don't wanna cheese then they don't have to. Also, I don't consider fishing up the reaver shark "cheese".
weary walrus
Actually it is
onyx wigeon
So yeah, what Lv. 1- said
ashen warren
But reaver shark is an EoW/BoC skip
weary walrus
Able to mine hellstone pre bosses
onyx wigeon
So what?
weary walrus
That’s OP
onyx wigeon
Does anyone care tho?
onyx wigeon
I just gave an opinion and I think it would be great.
ashen warren
"Does anyone care tho?" enough cared before that fab made the shark unusable previously
weary walrus
Just my suggestion to replace the fossil with some metal bars
novel pebble
What will the extractinator help you with Pre-EoC
onyx wigeon
Well the Sky Mill recipe uses things sky related and I put fossils cause they are extracting related
weary walrus
Easy ore and gems
onyx wigeon
Yea
novel pebble
I don’t see it to be a lot to be locked Post-EoC
onyx wigeon
atm I am trying to get a ruby but no Ruby Crawlers are spawning and I can't find any
weary walrus
I think they spawn in the crimson
Idk, when i’m preparing for boc i killed a lot of them
ashen warren
Crawlers spawn underground
weary walrus
Odd
ashen warren
Maybe it's cavern level but it isn't biome specific
onyx wigeon
underground and cavern
weary walrus
So rnjesus blessed me?
ashen warren
Yep
onyx wigeon
yeah?
weary walrus
ashen warren
Also if you want rubies check out the gem planetoids
onyx wigeon
What probably happened was that you were in the underground place and went inside the crimson and right before you went in the crimson the ruby crawler spawned
I don't have any Grav Potions
ashen warren
Don't need grav potions
weary walrus
Just rope at the middle of the world
ashen warren
Platforms and rope don't rely on physics
weary walrus
^
ashen warren
Both are super cheap as well
onyx wigeon
I know but I made a large world
ashen warren
Massively offtopic though
weary walrus
onyx wigeon
yeh
desert nimbus
wait whoever made the recipe for the extractinator, how would you be able to craft one if it needs amber and you need it to get amber?
ruby cobalt
weary walrus
novel pebble
300 IQ play
onyx wigeon
You can get the amber from amber crawlers 
weary walrus
Imo it needs metal bars
It looks metallic
It would be weird if its recipe doesn’t have metal bars
onyx wigeon
K gonna add metal bars I guess
novel pebble
Stop mentioning Metal Bars.
weary walrus
I’ll let him choose what bar
novel pebble
It’s not like it makes a differenece.
weary walrus
Staph using CAPITAL
novel pebble
Fixd
ashen warren
@grizzled sage What are you talking about?
ruby cobalt
he wants a russian translation to be available for the mod
dense girder
ruby cobalt
which is happening probably when I'm unfucking my lazy ass and stop procrastinating on it
not a fan of translating ~1200 items or some shit
ashen warren
That's.. a weird term
Nvm it's a horrible term: "Russification, or Russianization, is a form of cultural assimilation process during which non-Russian communities, voluntarily or not, give up their culture and language in favor of the Russian one." (wikipedia)
grizzled sage
Basically translate the mod to Rissiab
A lot of Russian players go on and complaine
Not that I’m one of those
ruby cobalt
they can complain all they want tbh
grizzled sage
Sorry
ruby cobalt
that ain't speeding it up
grizzled sage
Wrong term used
ruby cobalt
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ashen warren
I thought translations were being left until the mod is finished
Or xeroc is added or something
ruby cobalt
yeah no they can be worked on rn
it's just that nobody from the main dev team is gonna have it in their priority list
grizzled sage
Oh
Now that I know
@ashen warren , as a Russian, I am horrified that such a word exist. Here, we use this word to say that something needs to be translated
ashen warren
Cultural differences are weird man
quick ferry
They probably mistook that word with the term "Russificator", an additional downloadable program that overrides a game's language files, changing the default localisation to russian. It's a common practice, so it would make sense to make that grammatical mistake.
worthy fiber
Oh, interesting
grizzled sage
@quick ferry is correct
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren wrong place
frail mantle
wdym
rapid folio
Like, a small benefit for dodging attacks
Was thinking something small like, some kind of bonus you get whenever you dodge an attack using the counter scarf or ninja dodge
ashen warren
Grazing is where you were like 5 pixels away from an attack in touhou
And it gives you score
rapid folio
Except in this case it's something different
At first I was thinking maybe a small percentage of adrenaline but that might be a bit OP
ashen warren
Idk "gain 100 rage if you narrowly dodge an attack" seems alright
rapid folio
Then I thought maybe it could only trigger when using counter scarf or other things that have you dodge, like the titanium and ninja accessory passive
ashen warren
Making it use CS or SD makes it not viable for nohits
"Dodging" an attack isn't allowed
rapid folio
Right, that was just what I thought of at first
since idk how you'd be able to code something like that into terraria
Or well, how it'd detect how close you are to a projectile or if you've even dodged it
rapid folio
Yeah, true
ashen warren
3 are even RNG based
rapid folio
Just considering how powerful adrenaline can be, especially with spammy bosses if it were implemented
Not sure if it'd be balanced
ashen warren
That's why I said rage
From touhou wiki thing: "The institution of grazing exists in order to encourage a more aggressive style of play by giving rewards for flirting with danger."
Like defiled actually
misty talon
100 seems a tad stingy
misty talon
considering the time and risk its not worth it when you can just equip heart of darkness or draedons heart off and on
if you dodge that many you've probably got a full adrenaline bar and that makes the rage kind of irrelevant too
ashen warren
What number would you go for?
misty talon
rage is...10,000 for a full bar right?
ashen warren
Yer
unborn canopy
@ashen warren include a crafting recipe for the Rust Bucket?
misty talon
i'd say at least 300 so it has a chance of outclassing draedons heart / etc
up to 500 possibly
thats a solid 1/20th of a rage bar, and the time it takes to get that would probably roughly match the time it takes to charge your adrenaline bar
ashen warren
500 makes it 20-ish projectiles and if you get hit then RIP adrenaline
misty talon
yeah, which would make it at least a consolation prize. if you take risks like that you're at least getting something out of it guaranteed
ashen warren
Seems good imo
misty talon
because getting hit would also probably fully charge your rage bar
ashen warren
Now, is this actually possible in tmodloader? 
misty talon
should be, if you mean the dodging. i imagine it'd work on the same system that the game knows when to give you the counter scarf buff
ashen warren
But grazing means near the hitbox, not touching it
rapid folio
That trigger on contact though, would it work the same by being close?
misty talon
ahh, I see
it sounds honestly like too much trouble to be worth it. the only way I can think of doing it is attaching a second hitbox to every projectile
ashen warren
Also, projectile limit iirc
misty talon
that'd be quite a lot of work, but it would at least make rev+ even more skill-rewarding
its up to fab and the devs in the end if they're willing to do that
rapid folio
So then, should it be suggested?
Even if it gets 50 stars and stuff, still their decision
misty talon
hmm, i think if it comes down to putting a second hitbox on every projectile, i'd pass it off as impractical
you're welcome to try though, some people might know better
ashen warren
Tbh this isn't touhou, but go for it if you like
golden sonnet
hello
sleek wigeon
narrow saffron
👋 I'm fighting Olaf. I've been trapped in snow.
tropic yoke
Hey @ashen warren
ashen warren
oh
tropic yoke
Dropkick, is it snowing a lot where you are, too?
narrow saffron
4 inches already.
tropic yoke
same
tropic yoke
Who wants a mad lib suggestion...
I got an idea, but it has null development.
Who wants to fill in the blanks to this suggestion idea?
Dark Matter Beam: Post-???
Fires ???s. Upon colliding with a block, ???s will ???. Upon colliding with an enemy, ???s will ???. All attacks inflict "???" for ??? seconds.
Crafting:
???
golden sonnet
it looks like a doggo weapon if you keep that sprite
round falcon
Dark Matter Beam - Post-Ceaseless Void
Fires beams of darkened plasma, at 15° angles from the attacking point. Upon colliding with a block, dark wisps will be summoned. Only three can be out at a time. Upon colliding with an enemy, the beams will apply Shadowflame and deal low damage, but ignore immunity frames and defense/DR to a point. The wisps will deal high damage and explode on contact, inflicting Frostburn.
All attacks will inflict On Fire! for 5 seconds.
Cracted with 2 Dark Plasma, 15 Bloodstone Cores, 2 Galactica Singularities, 1 Core of Calamity
How's this, @tropic yoke?
tropic yoke
Dark Matter Beam: Post-D.o.G. Magic Gun
Fires 4 Dark Matter Beams with random spread and speed. This weapon's rate of fire slowly increases while attacking. Dark Matter Beams bounce off blocks up to 4 times before exploding into 5 Shadow Beams. Upon colliding with an enemy, Dark Matter Beams will spawn 3 Magnet Spheres around the struck enemy. All attacks ignore immunity frames inflict "God Slayer Inferno" for 3 seconds.
Crafting:
1 Laser Machine Gun
1 Magnet Sphere
10 Cosmilite Bars
15 Phantoplasm
ooh bloodstone
Might use the recipe
I'm tryin' to keep the projectile sprites to a minimum.
round falcon
The beams are solid projectiles
tropic yoke
I guess
Maybe they leave an afterimage
Crafting:
1 Laser Machine Gun
1 Magnet Sphere
1 Shadow Beam Staff
10 Cosmilite Bars
5 Ruinous Souls
ashen warren
ಠ_ಠ
weary walrus
Already suggested
keen nebula
Just make an invisible projectile on the player that increases the player's rage when it is in contact with a non-friendly projectile
radiant meadow
weary walrus
I saw grazing
radiant meadow
@obsidian raven 1 message, remove the links, and it's been suggested before
or at least the 2nd one
it creates way too much clutter for a suggestion
weary walrus
Can someone count how many time it is?
cyan lagoon
rest of the other stuff is unneccesary
radiant meadow
well, it makes it easier to star
alpine garnet
We know what adult worm is, don't need wiki page
ashen warren
Can that just be made an actual rule?
weary walrus
Uh oh
alpine garnet
You could say "make threats of the ocean floor play when facing adult eidolen worm"
weary walrus
Someone is pissed
radiant meadow
1 message isn't a said rule, but it makes it easier to star
weary walrus
Does this guy even see the ping?
ashen warren
Smh @weary walrus I almost never get angry
weary walrus
@obsidian raven
cyan lagoon
@weary walrus two wrongs dont make a right
crisp osprey
sounds accurate
weary walrus
Wow this guy literally ignore this channel
obsidian raven
no
weary walrus
Why are you so fucking silent?
obsidian raven
idk
weary walrus
Just read the messages above
crisp osprey
cyan lagoon
mineturtle unless your suggesting something stop posting useless messages
hollow shell
@obsidian raven You know you can edit messages, right?
low hedge
now his suggestion looks fuckin stupid
ashen warren
Feels like memeing tbh
weary walrus
Omg what a mess
crisp osprey
sounds like memeing tbh
weary walrus
And next time, discuss your suggestion in here first before posting anything
crisp osprey
^
cyan lagoon
@arctic notch that's a start but you should specify what they could be, exactly
hollow shell
Ye specific suggestions are preferred
arctic notch
Ok.
round falcon
@arctic notch We already have a material for Rogues, why add a pillar for them? The devs aren't trying to be Tremor.
cyan lagoon
Consistency?
hollow shell
(btw nice job coming up with weapons for all the materials)
arctic notch
Thank you.
round falcon
Plus, how would it spawn?
round falcon
Where*
cyan lagoon
ah yes
arctic notch
Like the others, in a random place in a general area.
cyan lagoon
Only suitable spots appear to be the very far sides or the planetoid layer
arctic notch
Haven't decided where.
round falcon
They spawn around four set locations.
arctic notch
Maybe there.
round falcon
Perhaps it could spawn in the Sea?
frank stratus
eager palm
Rather than having another pillar why not just have the pillar enemies drop some sort of resource themselves
Like meld blobs
fervent zealot
SoA ripoff tbh
hollow shell
like Meld Blobs?
round falcon
oh wait, they do
hollow shell
o
arctic notch
Well, Rogue is a class like the others.
round falcon
meld blobs lol
fervent zealot
thorium doesn't add pillars for either of its classes
adding a pillar is a horrible idea, take examples from other mods that have added classes or major content to thrower
eager palm
Yeah but adding another pillar+fragments would change a lot of stuff
cyan lagoon
besides the "it's hell to code" argument
radiant meadow
what would become of xeroc armor then?
eager palm
And after seeing fab say throwing/rogue is a bastard child he doesnt wants, i doubt it would ever get implemented
radiant meadow
just throwing, not rogue
cyan lagoon
uh rob
lost agate
Ah yeah, adding another pilar never went well, they got to close to each other
round falcon
Put it in the sea of urine
eager palm
What's wrong cob ?
round falcon
That way it's even more out of the way
arctic notch
lost agate
Still, its kinda too close
frank stratus
what about the code and other stuff
round falcon
Plus, nightmare to code. But also, Meld stuff exists.
Shame I didn't say this with everyone else
arctic notch
I forgot about that stuff, okay? I'm new to Rogue.