suggestions-discussion

[lost agate]

Give him legs

[cold terrace]

im not sure what sense a mini moonlord would make in the lore

like

isnt he a god thats one of a kind

[hollow shell]

Maybe some of his bones grew into their own beings

like DIO and the Green Baby

[brazen wedge]

a minion of ml?

[round falcon]

perhaps it could be a Cultist imbued with the powers of the moon?

[ashen warren]

I mean Moon Lord is Cthulhu's brother so obviously there's at least two of them.

[cold terrace]

maybe the suggestion should just be to have eidolists drop luminite

after ml is killed

[ashen warren]

Yeah that could work.

[round falcon]

like how we have Cultist Assasins and Eidolists, perhaps when the Moon Lord is downed his followers gain the ability to drop Luminite? Perhaps they could use the unused White Cultists.

[jovial spire]

@ashen warren in calamity ML is cthulu so

[cold terrace]

what even is luminite

[jovial spire]

cthulu moon rock

[brazen wedge]

instead of mini ml maybye fake EoC

[ashen warren]

I didn't realize that Calamity changed that part of the lore. Understandable though.

[jovial spire]

yeah

[cold terrace]

true brain of cthulu

[untold gulch]

^

[cold terrace]

theres a good masomode suggestion

[jovial spire]

Make Xerock be able to be thrown and do 6 rouge damage. It can be picked back up 99.99% of the time.

[worthy fiber]

[cold terrace]

man i cant find the ml body in the files

[hollow shell]

Extra_13 to Extra_29 is almost all Moon Lord

[cold terrace]

thanks ❤

[hollow shell]

np

(also that's efficient of them to have only one half of Moon Lord's body, with the other just being mirrored)

[cold terrace]

i never noticed the body was more than one entity

[hollow shell]

It's cool seeing how he's all put together

[cold terrace]

ml is the most well designed vanilla boss imo

yeah

[lunar berry]

yes

but make it 5

[hollow shell]

@placid perch Like something in-between ✅ and 🏁?

[placid perch]

Yeah

[hollow shell]

Or did you not know 🏁 existed

[placid perch]

No I did

☑
This could work

[hollow shell]

That's in use

[placid perch]

Oh yeah

[hollow shell]

[radiant meadow]

Didn't Fab say no to something like that?

[placid perch]

I forgot about that one

[round falcon]

I think it's if the suggestion is put in the changelogs.

[placid perch]

✔
This possibly?

[round falcon]

That's when it gets the 🏁, right?

[placid perch]

Nah thats too dark

[hollow shell]

That'd be kinda hard to implement because of how inconsistent things can get
It's really better if there's just the Delivered and Completed marks

An in-between wouldn't get much use

[placid perch]

I guess your right

[hollow shell]

I'll star it anyway. If enough people agree then we can work something out

[placid perch]

Thanks

[hollow shell]

@echo hound Discuss suggestions in this channel

[echo hound]

I did nothing shhh

[hollow shell]

👀

[marsh gust]

[echo hound]

👁 👅 👁

[radiant meadow]

[placid perch]

[ancient atlas]

🇺 🇼 🇺

[echo hound]

[radiant meadow]

Okay let's stop emote spam now

[hollow shell]

btw can I just mention how freaking fast Daler's worldgen suggestions got starred

[echo hound]

Hold on let me show wall my thinking emojis

[placid perch]

And get on topic

[hollow shell]

Don't get muted, Oink

[echo hound]

Wait

[marsh gust]

isnt the dungeon hard coded?

[radiant meadow]

Probably?

[hollow shell]

It will be very hard to add to it

I assume it is possible with some code magic, however.

[echo hound]

<320310941659037697> <453585120536821778> 🤔

Oh

Some didn't work

[sleek wigeon]

[hollow shell]

Aaand you're muted

[echo hound]

Okay I'm done

[marsh gust]

also, id assume if its possible to add then the current abyss eating dungeon wouldve been fixed alrdy

[eager palm]

@echo hound stop spamming emotes

[echo hound]

I DiD m8

[placid perch]

No

[eager palm]

oh wait youre already warned

mute it is then

[ancient atlas]

this is a channel for discussing suggestions

[radiant meadow]

you should've stopped after I said no more emote spam tbf

[placid perch]

Bumblebirb nest is something I would love to see

[hollow shell]

Does sound kinda cool

[ancient atlas]

it'd be nice but i already expressed my distaste for the multitude of generated structures

[hollow shell]

Post-Moon Lord worldgen is very risky tho

[placid perch]

Its is, I see why

[radiant meadow]

Maybe make them spawn like beehives instead

[placid perch]

Or replace beehives Post-Moonlord

[marsh gust]

it doesn't have to be generated postML only right?

[placid perch]

But that wouldn't work most likely

It could be unbreakable untill Post Moonlord

[radiant meadow]

Maybe just add different birbs

[placid perch]

give creative block

[radiant meadow]

Phm birb, hm birb, post ml birb

[placid perch]

I like that

[topaz flint]

all I want

is a real life birb

that won't kill me that is.

[placid perch]

I want a mini-boss for that biome that looks like Yharon, but still looks like a birb

Same

Halfway between bumble and Yharon

[ancient atlas]

yharon kindle enemies

[weary walrus]

Bumblegon?

Sounds like bubblegum lol

[placid perch]

Bumblon

[weary walrus]

.-. Sound nice

[placid perch]

Thats even worse

[ancient atlas]

yharobirb

[weary walrus]

Yrabirb

Yrabon

[placid perch]

We have a winner!

Yharbib

Lets stop spamming names

[weary walrus]

Ok

[ancient atlas]

no new suggestions yet

i expect people to be pumpin em out tbj

tbh*

[placid perch]

Is it possible to increase how wide the world is? Like how it already increases the height?

[ancient atlas]

maybe

[weary walrus]

Sure?

[ancient atlas]

but think about how the ocean, dungeon, and abyss generate

[weary walrus]

But it’s gonna be hella heavy

[ancient atlas]

that would have to be totally changed like the whole ore generation thing

[weary walrus]

Planetoids are way too much

[radiant meadow]

Sometimes there's tons of suggestions
Sometimes there's not many at all
Not something you can control

[marsh gust]

i think theres a mod alrdy that lets you generate larger worlds than large..

[radiant meadow]

I think extending width is pushing it

[ancient atlas]

of course i don't control it, it just seemed like people were avid fans of calamity that wanted their stuff added

lots of people*

not everybody

[radiant meadow]

[weary walrus]

My sentry suggestion has 47 stars

[ancient atlas]

there is a mod called world extender or something

[marsh gust]

what does large world enabler do?

[weary walrus]

Extend the world?

Both vertically and horizontally?

[ancient atlas]

from what i've seen of it

[placid perch]

The reason I asked it it because the world would need more space for all those new structures

[weary walrus]

Yes

And PC needs more RAM

[ancient atlas]

and terraria needs more bits

[placid perch]

It would be way too crowded to do them all or even most

[ashen warren]

I've found that the map isn't big enough for all of the stuff as is. When I go down to the Underworld, the map goes off the frame.

That may just be me though.

[ancient atlas]

most likely just you

[ashen warren]

Like, the map's still there, it just goes off the big map screen that looks like a scroll. It's odd.

[marsh gust]

iirc theres a mod that respawns you at full health

@wind flicker

forgot the name tho

[weary walrus]

Just make the sea food to be the bait @ashen warren

No need for a new pole

[hollow shell]

The Aquatic Scourge Seafood bait thing was suggested in the past.
Think of an idea or two for a new pole and/or bait and suggest that instead

[ancient atlas]

i think it's easier to have the normal boss spawning item be specific to the biome rather than have fishing in a biome with a specific bait trigger the battle

[ashen warren]

I'll see what I could whip up for the pole/bait @hollow shell

[wind flicker]

@marsh gust It's called Full Health Respawn but it doesn't work with Calamity's max health upgrades

[hollow shell]

👍

[placid perch]

Tbh we need more tool items

[marsh gust]

ah ic

[placid perch]

Items that aren't good for damage output but give dubuffs and such

Like the Golden Gun

Or Flashlight (my suggestion)

I love them

[ancient atlas]

would be kinda nice to have a late game fusion of golden gun and lunic eye

[placid perch]

That would be nice

[ancient atlas]

whoever wants to make the suggestion in #suggestions-voting can do that

for the item

[ashen warren]

Don't quote me on this but, I know there is something in the disarray not that does work, but it is dropped by the Dungeon Guardian.
@marsh gust

[radiant meadow]

you can discuss it here first if you want to

[ancient atlas]

it was a short discussion

but i guess it could go a little longer haha

[marsh gust]

huh? wait im so lost.. wdym by that?

[ancient atlas]

SJD mentioned he wanted more tool items, and having a fusion between the golden gun and lunic eye/marked magnum sounded like a good idea in hindsight

think it's a decent idea?

[ashen warren]

I believe there is an item in the Dissaray Mod that spawns you with full health, and it scales with modded health increases @marsh gust

[marsh gust]

Ooh

[ashen warren]

Problem being you have to kill dungeon guardians.

[weary walrus]

Well dungeon guardian isn’t much of a problem when you have gravitation potion

[ashen warren]

or KO sword

Or P90

[marsh gust]

or just dont get hit so your hp doesnt matter in the first place

[sleek wigeon]

Fishing more like bad

[placid perch]

Acidic Blaster
Crafted @ Hardmode Forge w/
1 Golden Gun, 25 Plague Canisters.
10 Damage (Neutral)
Use Time 13 (Very Fast)
Shoots a large thick blast of toxic waste that goes pretty far and inflicts the Plagued debuff.
I think that more tool items would be nice, it doesn't remove 20 defense like Ichor does, but it does do damage among other things so it's a nice upgrade to the Golden Gun.

How is this?

[sleek wigeon]

bosses with +10% movement speed

Assuming all the effects of irradiated worked

yharim drops one

Yharim doesnt exist nerd

[placid perch]

No

[ancient atlas]

irradiated decreases defense like ichor, correct?

[placid perch]

He means Yharim would always drop it

Yeah it does

I think

Lemme check again

[ancient atlas]

if that's true then that's a definite yes

[sleek wigeon]

Except yharim doesnt exist yet

[ancient atlas]

sounds great

[sleek wigeon]

So neither could the item

[placid perch]

When he does

[brittle bane]

Oh, changed to yharon (thats what i meant to say but got mixed up)

[placid perch]

Oh

It decreases defense by 5, 10 in expert

Dang

I thought it would be a upgrade

Suprisingly no

[sleek wigeon]

I mean it also decreases DR.... granted so does ichor now

by more too

[placid perch]

Fixed it and changed it to Plagued

[west prairie]

i get the feeling that suggestions from here arent really implemented due to a combination of it requiring more work on top of an already daunting workload, and the fact that including items suggested by users for free would disincentivize donating to get an item

[sleek wigeon]

i mean if it strikes a dev's fancy, it has a chance to get in

[west prairie]

yeah

[radiant pawn]

is the ancient auric testla still going

just wait for yharim guys

[worthy fiber]

[radiant pawn]

for castona's suggestion

no

like actually no

drills are really bad

[sudden quail]

Says you

Drills can be really fun to use, they just have the loud noise attached to them

[radiant pawn]

not loud noise

i honestly dont mine that

but they are soooo slooow

i remember that i crafted the drill hoping it was better than a pickaxe, only to then waste it by killing skeletron with it

[weary walrus]

2 more stars before my sentry suggestion got sent

[dark goblet]

how does the star system work

[hollow shell]

[dark goblet]

ooooo okay

my most recent suggestion is so minor lmfao

[spark flax]

poltermask

[dark goblet]

GOD

[hollow shell]

Yeah it's pretty self-evident but
I'd still prefer if you beefed it up a little by mentioning consistency or whatever, or sayin that it'd probably look cool, etc

Perfect.

👌

[dark goblet]

ayyyy'

[hollow shell]

The weapons are pink because Phantoplasm

[dark goblet]

I know

[hollow shell]

and he has a pink core

[dark goblet]

It just bugs me way more than it should since polterghast is like predominantly blue

[hollow shell]

Yeah sure I'll star that too
[Resprite] is indeed a suggestion category

[dark goblet]

course maybe there'd be a middle ground of 'have polterghast turn pink during the fight' 🤔

[hollow shell]

He kinda does a lil bit
but

not much

[dark goblet]

yeah

...I have one more

[ashen warren]

Polterghast is one of the ugliest bosses with terrible music

[hollow shell]

hot bait

[dark goblet]

bad take

[spark flax]

sorry rob my boye but boss suggestions aren't allowed

[hollow shell]

^

[dark goblet]

FUCK slams hands on table

ah well

[hollow shell]

(tbh relieved cuz we usually discourage sending multiple suggestions in a row
3 at a time woulda been awkward to deal with)

(you're cool with your 2 though)

[dark goblet]

so two at a time at most?

gotcha

[hollow shell]

Ideally

[dark goblet]

Gzio you have the floor

[hollow shell]

lol

[dark goblet]

if you'll excuse me Im off to draw things

[hollow shell]

Have fun

[dark goblet]

will do!

also that suggestion about a 'this is a thing/will be a thing' emote needs more attention

scroll up a bit, it'd be super useful for yall

its by SJD06

[hollow shell]

Yeah I saw it

I mentioned that it'd be
difficult to use, probably

[dark goblet]

ahhhh

aight fair enough!

[hollow shell]

Devs don't usually say they're working on suggestions so concretely that we could add a reaction to signify it
Not yet, anyway.

[dark goblet]

So it'd be a bit situational?

[hollow shell]

Yeah

[dark goblet]

thats fair!

[hollow shell]

Pretty much all suggestions implemented so far have been low effort ones anyway
Fab knocks them out without even mentioning that he's doin em

[dark goblet]

like my polterghast mask idea

[hollow shell]

That'd be considered Mid Effort

because it needs a sprite

[dark goblet]

ahhhh

okay see can you tell Im not a mod dev lmfao

[hollow shell]

Low Effort is something like
changing a stat or adding a recipe for a pre-existing item

yeah lol

[dark goblet]

Im on a mod team but all I do is the music I dont write any code or draw any art

[hollow shell]

Ah that's still cool tho

[dark goblet]

ye, its fun!

they need an ocean boss theme so Im making the opening bit the jaws motif

[hollow shell]

nice

[craggy timber]

Yeah he does

[dark goblet]

anyways enough of that for this channel

OOOOOO YO DUDE

didnt know you were here!

[craggy timber]

I’m always here

[dark goblet]

TO #other-mod-talk WE GO

[weary walrus]

Should i suggest them to change dodge to dash to avoid confusion?

[tulip fulcrum]

Huh????

They called it a dash instead of dodge???

[weary walrus]

Aegises can’t be used to dodge

They can only dash

[quiet abyss]

They prolly mean the “dodge” from ramming enemies with the shields, as you get 4 i frames from doing it.
Though don’t quote me on that.

[weary walrus]

The 4 frame is kinda useless since the aegis doesn’t knock you back like SoC to protect you from taking contact damage

[ashen warren]

it's not useless at all, if you time it perfectly you can bash death dog's face and be fine (but it's extremely tight timing)

not to mention all the other things you can dash through

[weary walrus]

Finally sentries got more love

[radiant meadow]

@earnest raptor you might want to change pbg's as it can be obtained before beating the boss

same with aquatic scourge if you beat the twins

and brimmy if you beat prime

maybe suggest they drop mats to craft weapons

[earnest raptor]

No

Because it's needs a sprites.

[radiant meadow]

@quartz ivy put it in one message please

[quartz ivy]

Ait

I do like that Idea from @proven tide

[glossy bough]

@acoustic jewel Join the Bright side

[weary walrus]

Please refrain from being off topic thank you!

[hollow shell]

@mental linden Why Post-Plantera?

[brazen wedge]

just make it essence

[weary walrus]

You should give explanation

[hollow shell]

Explanation would be nice, yes

We meant explanation for the idea, not the core to essence change, lol
but thank you

Idea explanation is in there a bit

[twin olive]

Make unique background art for various post-moonlord bosses. For example, DoG fight would feature the original forest background, but tinted purple, and trees, chunks of mountains, and other debris would be levitating. And for SCal the background could be a thick layer of dark maroon clouds, occasionally flashing with red lightning.

[hollow shell]

You already suggested that

[twin olive]

Ik

[hollow shell]

What about it?

[twin olive]

In a different channel several days ago .-.

[hollow shell]

I'm wonderin why you posted it just now

It got delivered

[weary walrus]

Wait

There are no endgame tier summon

[hollow shell]

Cosmic Immaterializer

Or after?

[weary walrus]

I mean Shadowspec tier

[civic rampart]

Nay

But you can't suggest them

They are dedicated to devs

[weary walrus]

Ohh

Would love to have one tbh

[tiny rivet]

We need to sneak someone in to the dev team so they can get a summoner weapon post scal

[weary walrus]

[faint rivet]

[twilit gyro]

Yaaaaaaay! I got my first ✅

[weary walrus]

Sentry is getting more love

[twin olive]

A lot of ores and bars are just adjectives followed by ore or bar. Like cryonic ore/bar, perennial ore/bar, etc. Would be nice to see these changed to names that actually sound like mineral names, like cryonite or perennium. Please spare my OCD from further suffering lol

[lost agate]

Thats sounds like a legit suggestion

[weary walrus]

You can make suggestions right?

Go for it

[twin olive]

Like charred ore could be chronium

Chaotic ore could be ataxium

Frigid bars could be called ancient ice

Some are already fine tho and don't need to be changed like uelibloom and victide

[eager palm]

its way less confusing when youre using something like magic storage tho, since you can just type in "ore" or "bar" and you'll get a list of all of them

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lost agate]

Yeh

[twin olive]

Ore/bar would still be in the name

[earnest raptor]

🤔

waits a ore dictionary

[twin olive]

Like cryonic ore and cryonic bar would be cryonite ore and cryonite bar

That way the ores would be more lore-friendly and ocd-pleasing

[earnest raptor]

In old days, bars have named differently from ores.

Cryonic ore -> Versatile Bar
Perrenial ore -> Draedon's Bar

[twin olive]

Interesting

Also in the old days, calamity's sprites were painful to look at

[earnest raptor]

Oh yeah

Chaotic ore -> Cruptix Bar

[radiant meadow]

should that be blue checked as well?

[frail mantle]

i can totally see Chaotic bars being called Ataxium bars

[radiant meadow]

similar to this other suggestion but has some other goodies

https://discordapp.com/channels/225030931008847874/263382359397761025/523279691839176724

[lost agate]

Yeah i guess thats a blue check

[radiant meadow]

drh sniped me

[ruby cobalt]

👁

but hey, look on the positive side - I can't mod when I stream subnautica, so I can't snipe you then

[twin olive]

Also wulfrum is same as tungsten IRL so maybe change it to fernium or florium

[lunar berry]

soo...the cell phone upgrade

is basically a pokédex

instant star

[tulip fulcrum]

Lmao yes

[frail mantle]

@somber saffron please elaborate™ on why™

[lost agate]

should heal after hiting with the head

looks at deathmode and insane dmg on rev

[ancient atlas]

you would most likely die lol

[ruby cobalt]

the v word

[lost agate]

in death you just die

in rev the damage is nuts

so yeah,he could heal.... if you survive it

[ancient atlas]

death is punishment enough for not dodging the head

[radiant meadow]

well, you gotta punish people for using revives on br doggo somehow

[ancient atlas]

that works i guess?

[acoustic jewel]

I really got meme @'d in a discussion channel. Bruh

[night cradle]

@midnight knoll I think it's Temple, not Dungeon.

[somber saffron]

cough

[night cradle]

?

[delicate raft]

You should probably not suggest to change stuff that isn't added yet

You don't know exactly how it's going to work

[dark goblet]

okay so for my old astral armor as vanity suggestion, I found a screencap of what it looked like

its the chest and leggings

the hat was just vanity but its the best I have

[hollow shell]

???

[dark goblet]

remember a bit back when I suggested some new vanity sets, including the original version of astral armor?

[radiant meadow]

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/calamitymod_gamepedia_en/archive/9/9e/20180816163125!Astral_armor.png?version=7aa560f316322c97095befadf4770ec1
This?

Or do you mean this?
https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/calamitymod_gamepedia_en/archive/9/9e/20181121144225!Astral_armor.png?version=62b65887157d5169ecd249b28089f887

[hollow shell]

Yeah you can see previous versions of stuff by clicking on their images on the wiki

[dark goblet]

the first one

[hollow shell]

Why tf do you want that as vanity?

[dark goblet]

because I like it

[radiant meadow]

nostalgia?

[hollow shell]

just wear Adamantite armor with Pixie Dye and you'll have the same effect

[dark goblet]

theres something about it that just feels. Iunno. fun

[uncut jetty]

it's kind of... interesting to say the least

[tropic yoke]

Ancient Astral Armor

"It says on the back to 'insert AAA batteries.' "

Cool idea

[lost agate]

well, its unnecesary imo but whatever

[tropic yoke]

I mean, Vanilla did it. Plus, Calamity is... Literally lacking in vanity.

(hehe)

[lost agate]

well, go for it ig

[tropic yoke]

I don't think anything has ever been so hard to word.

Aww dang, my suggestion got drowned.

[frosty kindle]

we still see it.

[tropic yoke]

Time to eat stuffed shells and cry ;-;

[frosty kindle]

stuffed.... shells..?

[lost agate]

smh, starring the wrong message

[tropic yoke]

Yeah, wanna move to #general-talk and talk about stuffed shells?

[radiant meadow]

big suggestion

[tropic yoke]

lol shucks

[potent veldt]

suggesting a boss

Does seem like a fun idea though

@hexed surge Is that a question

Because thats definitely not a suggestion

[bitter topaz]

@hexed surge banners are being worked on

the sprites just need to be finished before they're implemented

[potent veldt]

Either way, wrong channel

[crisp drum]

Tis more of a mini-boss like the Saucer than anything

[fervent zealot]

@hexed surge it's just low in priorities

[frail mantle]

Damb
They was pinged three times in a row

[potent veldt]

I mean, they've yet to respond

[hexed surge]

sorry, I was going to suggest that there be banners but I realized this might already be a thing

[potent veldt]

There ya go

Rephrase your suggestion, at least

[radiant meadow]

@sterile moon First of all, wulfrum slimes are robots so they are purposely not affected.
If the ore slimes are not affected, then that's a bug that is being worked on

[frail mantle]

Wait...they’re robots?

[potent veldt]

wulfrum lore

👀

[cyan lagoon]

it isn't like royal gel for modded slimes wasn't suggested before, termi

[sterile moon]

if there robots rename them to wulfrum slime robots

[cyan lagoon]

in fact, many many people suggested such

[radiant meadow]

that too I guess

but like I remember seeing it on the bug doc

[hexed surge]

tbh "wulfrum slime robot" sounds a bit lame to me, you could just redo the sprite for the slime so that it's obviously a metallic square

[sterile moon]

wulfrum slime bot

[tropic yoke]

Silvic Staff: New Post-Bumblebirb summon item.
6 effulgent feathers + 6 darksun fragments + 6 cosmilite bars + 10 nightmare fuel + 10 dark energy + 1 optic staff + 1 eye of desolation

Spawns 2 miniature silvic Planteras. One minion will heal the player by 1/4 of the staff's damage per second. Each individual minion will take up 3/4 of a minion slot.

Ehhh?

Healer minion

[crisp drum]

Wrong... uh. channel

[tropic yoke]

?

[crisp drum]

This is suggestions discussion

[tropic yoke]

Yeah

[crisp drum]

actual suggestions go into suggestions

[bitter topaz]

you can discuss a suggestion before posting it too, ya know

[tropic yoke]

I'm posting it here before I mess up, again.

[crisp drum]

aye, alright

[tropic yoke]

Are the stats and recipe good?

Any buffs? nerfs?

[frail mantle]

Summoner love

[tropic yoke]

I've heard a lot about support minions being needed.

[ashen warren]

A bit superfluous, eye of deso for a staff?

[tropic yoke]

idk

Should I remove it?

I mean, there's already the optic staff.

Yeah, I'll replace it with 6 living shards.

[ashen warren]

A summoning item tho. Not a weapon.

[tropic yoke]

That good?

[ashen warren]

Oh, I was thinking the portable bulb.

[tropic yoke]

?

[ashen warren]

The added plantera summon

[tropic yoke]

Oh, calamity did that?

huh

[ashen warren]

Also nightmare fuel is rarely used without endothermic energy.

[tropic yoke]

oh lmao

Said dark energy and not endothermic

whoopsie

[potent veldt]

"3/4 a minion slot"

[mystic glade]

stats dont really matter cause devs will decide anyway and change

[potent veldt]

Id rather it be just a whole 1

[tropic yoke]

See?
This is why I posted it here

ok skelly boi

[potent veldt]

Even as summoner Id rather it be 1 lol

Thatd just make me angry

[tropic yoke]

shush, I did NOT just mess up posting an amoji

[potent veldt]

and spelling it

[ashen warren]

That's an idea, a combined Endo and nightmare

[tropic yoke]

Yeah, they're always in conjunction.

I meant to say endothermic instead of dark

[ashen warren]

Then add darksun like COC

[potent veldt]

I honestly love the idea of a healer minion, but tbh, it should take up 2 slots

Healers are dangerous in terms of balance

If I can just mass healers and have 1 damge output minion, then why should I care

[tropic yoke]

Silvic Staff, Post-Bumblebirb summoning item:
6 Effulgent Feathers + 6 Darksun Fragments + 6 Cosmilite Bars + 10 Nightmare Fuel + 10 Endothermic Energy + 1 Optic Staff = 1 Silvic Staff

Spawns 2 miniature silvic Planteras. Each healer minion will heal the player by 1/10 of the staff's damage per second (stacking effect). Each individual minion will take up a minion slot.

Are there any mistakes?

[crisp drum]

wiggle wiggle

[tropic yoke]

i assume not, then.

[crisp drum]

The staff itself is a bit spindly

[tropic yoke]

?

[crisp drum]

dark outlines would help on that part

[tropic yoke]

Ok

[crisp drum]

The rod of the staff feels way too thin imo

[radiant meadow]

Not bad though

[crisp drum]

Yeah, it's got potential

[frail mantle]

Actually I tried Rev ML yesterday and the cells actually did better than the dragon for me

[radiant meadow]

Say dark sun tier instead of post birb

[crisp drum]

Here's some of my terraria sprites for an example

[tropic yoke]

those are spindly

Nice tho

Have the top one use the polterghast weapon palette and put into the sprite submissions channel in the art server.

It'd be cool

[frail mantle]

Stardust Dragon sorta just... either follows the player or barely deals ok dps to the eyes, while the Cells shoot directly at the eyes and has higher dps

[fervent zealot]

wtf no

cells toddle off and do piddly dps while dragon targets an eye and melts it

[frail mantle]

Not in my experience

[fervent zealot]

dragon has always and will always have higher dps than cells

[frail mantle]

I tried it right after the update

[crisp drum]

With the Stardust Dragon, it barely does 90 damage a tick

[frail mantle]

But oh well
/shrug

[fervent zealot]

how the fuck can you use dragon so badly

[crisp drum]

and that's WITH 105%+ minion damage

[fervent zealot]

like, what the actual hell are you doing to make its damage so LOW

if you're talking about base damage, base damage doesn't mean shit, especially with dragon

[frail mantle]

/ shrug

[crisp drum]

I don't know, the draggo just likes to wrap around the eye instead of actually targeting it

[frail mantle]

^

[fervent zealot]

you just don't know how to account for its retardation then

[potent veldt]

Do you actually target the eye?

[fervent zealot]

dragon, if used right, deals infinitely more damage than cells ever have

[potent veldt]

Because retargetting seems to fix that for me

[fervent zealot]

cells just have less stupid ai, and seem better to most

[crisp drum]

That's why I suggested a cell buff

to make it an alternative, not a downgrade

[fervent zealot]

they're a viable alternative to most players

[crisp drum]

But still, 9 out of 10 people are going to use Stardust Dragon

[fervent zealot]

but proper dragon use has always and will always be stronger than cells

[tropic yoke]

Is it ready

[fervent zealot]

it has downsides compared to cells i will admit, but

and yes nice sprites

[tropic yoke]

:D

[potent veldt]

Staff needs more to me

[crisp drum]

Ok, here me out

what if

each cell took half a minion slot?

[fervent zealot]

oh god no.

[tropic yoke]

Chaos

[potent veldt]

Nothing I'd complain too much about, but it's a post-bumblebirb summon weapon, right? @tropic yoke

[tropic yoke]

Some men just want to see the world burn

Yes.

Effulgent feathers

[potent veldt]

That staff is almost more simple looking than the slime staff

[crisp drum]

It'd make the Cell staff the actual counterpart to the dragon

[fervent zealot]

actually, why not add feathers to it

[potent veldt]

And doesnt look like any of the items used to make it

[crisp drum]

1 big dragon or t h e h o r d e

[potent veldt]

What szavak said

[tropic yoke]

Ooh

[potent veldt]

Add feathers, or something rad

[tropic yoke]

ok

[frail mantle]

I’d prefer the h o r d e

[potent veldt]

Go apeshit with it

Make the cells 1/10 a slot bitch

go all the way

[frail mantle]

Just add something more that’s going on to make it less...plain

[crisp drum]

literally drown the enemy in minions

[potent veldt]

They dont attack or anything

They only s m o t h e r

And btw, the stats on the summon look good

[glossy bough]

Shit

[quiet abyss]

👀

[glossy bough]

I thought I was on discussion

[tropic yoke]

Pow, is this staff better?

[weary walrus]

That looks like plantera?

[ashen warren]

Intentional.

[tropic yoke]

Yes

[weary walrus]

Shoot spore and charge right?

[ashen warren]

One heals, the other charges i guess

[tropic yoke]

Attacks

[ashen warren]

Really? both attack?

[tropic yoke]

No

One heals, one... Ohh oof

[weary walrus]

Like Twins?

[tropic yoke]

Hmmm

Guess I didn't thinkit through.

I was gonna have the attack one shoot seeds.

hmmm now what?

[weary walrus]

For Twins upgrade we pretty much have Entropy’s Vigil

[tropic yoke]

Charging isn't a good idea imo.

[ashen warren]

Entropy doesn't tier up tho

[weary walrus]

Ikr

But it’s similar to twins and better than twins

[ashen warren]

How about a plantera above the head like sun god that shoots seeds. Every time seed hits a heal is done to you.

[tropic yoke]

Nah

[weary walrus]

Wait

If you want to do that

Make it ravager tier

[ashen warren]

How about attacks with vines?

[tropic yoke]

no...

I'm thinkin'

[weary walrus]

Since we already sun god for planty tier

[ashen warren]

is for silva

For which we have silva crystal for

[tropic yoke]

I guess charge, then releasing seeds on hits

[weary walrus]

Hmm

[tropic yoke]

Almost like the spectre mask.

[weary walrus]

So we can pick up seed to heal?

[tropic yoke]

But summon, and not armor-based.

[weary walrus]

Or it homes at us?

[ashen warren]

I wonder how the tentacles will work.

For moving about, like the OG plantera

[tropic yoke]

That's where the eye idea comes in

[weary walrus]

How about making the tentacle as the main attack

The summon will stick to the enemy

[tropic yoke]

No tentacles

[weary walrus]

Oh

[tropic yoke]

The eye idea

[tiny rivet]

am i late to this because i really like those sprites

[weary walrus]

Me too

[tiny rivet]

maelstrom's sprites look really cool too

[weary walrus]

I have just woke up

[ashen warren]

What else does plantera really do 4 inspiration?

It shoots stuff and then bites u using tentacles.

[tiny rivet]

it fuels my ever growing hatred for all forms of plant life

[weary walrus]

Pretty much it

[quiet abyss]

There’s the thorn balls

And spores

[ashen warren]

Plantera TLDR

[weary walrus]

Oh yeah thorn balls

[tiny rivet]

plantera and her mortal weakness, the circle

[weary walrus]

Wait

[ashen warren]

Sticky.

[weary walrus]

Rough weapon for planty?

Thorn balls?

Upgrade of spiky balls

[tiny rivet]

you could do a chain knife like weapon using one of her plantera tentacles

[weary walrus]

But bouncy

We already have flail

Vanilla flail

[ashen warren]

Flail no rogue.

[weary walrus]

Flower pow

[tiny rivet]

just add more tbh

[ashen warren]

More to plantera.

[tiny rivet]

just cram everything into it

make a plantera sandwich

[ashen warren]

Planwich.

[weary walrus]

Wtf?

[tiny rivet]

planwich heals infinitely more than an omega healing potion

[ashen warren]

Plantera has enough items tbh, and you get mangrove immediately after her.

[weary walrus]

How about

Make an non consumable healing item

[ashen warren]

Horn o' plenty.

[weary walrus]

Like Horn o plenty in mobile version

:v

[tiny rivet]

if anything we should be working on golem drops because the only drops you'd actually want from golem are the eye of golem for emblems, the shiny stone, and the sun stone

picksaw drops all the time in calamity

[weary walrus]

Yeah

[tiny rivet]

so that doesn't count in this context

[weary walrus]

I want heat ray fr lahzar too

[ashen warren]

Golem rogue weapons.

Brackish Flask and Chakram.exe

[tiny rivet]

did you mean rogue

[sleek wigeon]

Throwing boulders tbh

[weary walrus]

[sleek wigeon]

Imagine boulders made from temple bricks

[tiny rivet]

legend of zelda band of strength or whatever it's called

[sleek wigeon]

Which you just

[ashen warren]

HECK

[sleek wigeon]

toss at enemies

[ashen warren]

Boulder staff tho.

But not for the mage.

[tiny rivet]

boulder staff minus the staff

[ashen warren]

Just boulder.

A bold boulder

[tiny rivet]

that boulder throwing weapon idea actually amuses me that's such a dumb concept and i love it

fighting moon lord by chucking rocks at him

[cold terrace]

they need to add cactus toilets

[weary walrus]

I mean we can craft boulder as soon as we found the tinkerer

[ashen warren]

Who needs a specialized blade or a magical flask of seawater?

BOULDER

[tiny rivet]

R O C K

[weary walrus]

X E R O C K

[cold terrace]

the seawater flask sucks, the poison bomb is better

[ashen warren]

[tiny rivet]

xeroc pitchforks vs a literal rock

[ashen warren]

Tru, tru.

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah but you cant throw the boulders crafted at tinker

[ashen warren]

Weapons made from body of a god? BOULDER

[weary walrus]

Ok time to stop

[tiny rivet]

this is such a stupid idea i love it so much

someone needs to suggest it

[ashen warren]

Ya, a boulder glove, like the expert skeletron, sounds nice.

[sleek wigeon]

Ill do it

[tiny rivet]

i want it to be always shown like your character holds it above their head and just chucks it when it's thrown

[weary walrus]

Throwable boulder seems like a good idea

Slow speed but high damage

[ashen warren]

So, the Bowlder?

[tropic yoke]

Silvic Staff, Post-Bumblebirb summoning item:
6 Effulgent Feathers + 6 Darksun Fragments + 6 Cosmilite Bars + 10 Nightmare Fuel + 10 Endothermic Energy + 1 Optic Staff = 1 Silvic Staff
Spawns 2 Silvic Planteras. Each individual minion will take up a minion slot.
Healer Planteras will heal the player by 1/10 of the staff's damage every second.
Fighter Planteras will repeatedly charge enemies (ignoring tiles). On hits, several seeds are shot outward from the enemy and will home in on any nearby enemies, similar to the set bonus from spectre armor.

Should I suggest it?

[ashen warren]

whoa

[tropic yoke]

U wot m8?

[weary walrus]

👍

[tropic yoke]

:P

[ashen warren]

Staff damage bad, if you spam.

[tropic yoke]

?

[weary walrus]

But the dev will decide the stat lol

No need for that

[tropic yoke]

lower the healing ratio?

[ashen warren]

Yeah, but d'you think they'll know where this came from?

[tropic yoke]

?

[weary walrus]

What do you mean?

[tiny rivet]

i quite like the suggestion, a silva version of plantera

i dig it

[ashen warren]

Plantera - jungle guardian, so a nymph related staff would naturally summon it?

[tropic yoke]

what?

[weary walrus]

This is a separated weapon

[ashen warren]

Yeah, but maybe they'll ask, Y plantera? Or not IDK

[tropic yoke]

This is a late-game summon weapon based on the silva armor

[weary walrus]

It’s ok to summon it

I mean

[tropic yoke]

No legitimate connections

besides theme

[weary walrus]

We have sharknodo

[sleek wigeon]

Post Golem Rogue weapon
Lizhard Throwing Boulder
A craftable throwing boulder. Does heavy damage and is tossed farther and faster than the boulder staff. Projectile acts similarly to normal boulders once on the ground.

Recipe: 20 lizhard bricks makes 50
Also dropped by golem, 1 kill drops 100.

[tiny rivet]

isn't it spelt lihzahrd

[sleek wigeon]

maybe >_>

I'm not sure

[ashen warren]

Unless I am mistaken, isn't the jungle temple the only source of bricks?

[weary walrus]

No

[ashen warren]

Or can you make them now?

[eager palm]

it is "Lihzahrd"

[weary walrus]

Providence box is made of it

[tropic yoke]

There, also gtg

[lost agate]

Nope

[ashen warren]

Uh.

[tiny rivet]

not anymore

[lost agate]

Provi box is made of profaned rock

[weary walrus]

What?

Oof

[tiny rivet]

yeah they changed the box provi spawned her stuff in

[weary walrus]

Ok it’s limited now

[sleek wigeon]

Golem also drops it and you can farm golem forever.

The boulders, not brick

[weary walrus]

I mean the brick

:v

[ashen warren]

Thats a suggestion, make lihazzy blocks craftable using mud at the furnace.

[tiny rivet]

alchemistnpc has the builder npc which sells the brick so there's that

[ashen warren]

Not calamity tho.

[tiny rivet]

yeah but it's worth mentioning either way

i have a hard time believing people would play a mod on its own without some sort of convenience or secondary minimod

[ashen warren]

I play without convenience cuz it builds character

[tiny rivet]

i guess my character is built with sticks 😔

[ashen warren]

Nothing to be ashamed of.

[tiny rivet]

oh i know! everyone plays the game in different way

[ashen warren]

[fervent zealot]

nice right channel post

[tiny rivet]

i enjoy the convenience of having almost everything i need at a cost, cuts down a lot of time spent grinding so i can move on to actually fighting bosses

[sleek wigeon]

But ice and jungle spawn on opposite sides of the world?

[eager palm]

@jovial spire offtopic, go into #calamity-mod-talk

[jovial spire]

oh shit

idk why it put me here i clicked in #calamity-mod-talk

[sleek wigeon]

Oi, rob, mind starring the suggestions?

[tiny rivet]

i would star the boulder suggestion 50 times if i could

[sleek wigeon]

Thats exactly why you cant

[weary walrus]

Same

[tiny rivet]

yeah they limited reactions to one per person because they had a fortune teller warn them specifically about me

[weary walrus]

[sleek wigeon]

Yes

[tiny rivet]

the plot thickens

[radiant pawn]

suggest fargo to make magic weapons change to throwing

done

you have throwing boulders

[ashen warren]

How (HOW NOT WHERE I'M NOT THAT GUY) is yharim going devs?

[worthy fiber]

Confidential stuff

And wrong channel

[ashen warren]

Which channel is it

[worthy fiber]

Ask about that stuff in #calamity-mod-talk

[ashen warren]

K

[radiant pawn]

its funny to me how you asked like a boss from work how was yharim going im sorry

[bitter topaz]

@ashen warren throwing was changed to rogue for 2 reasons,
1: super secret gamer stuff
2:the vanilla code for throwing is beyond gow-awful

[ashen warren]

This is epic

changing to fix throwing then wanting to change back

lmoa

[eager palm]

@ashen warren its not going to be changed back into throwing so you may as well delete your suggestion

[fervent zealot]

^

[ashen warren]

Ok

[tulip fulcrum]

I have a better idea

If it's possible, make rogue somehow compatible with throwing, but let's also say that rogue does more then throwing

[fervent zealot]

no, throwing is gone

nada

[barren hound]

why was throwing changed to rogue?

to dodge vanilla code?

[fervent zealot]

a varoety of reasons, ^ being one

[tulip fulcrum]

Well fricc

[ashen warren]

Throwing is compatible with ranged accessories

Which is super gay coded

[brazen wedge]

what?

[weary walrus]

So all throwing, including vanilla ones, are now rouge?

[barren hound]

no

[ashen warren]

No just calamity ones

[weary walrus]

What?

[fervent zealot]

vanilla was left alone, all calamity is rogue

[weary walrus]

Rip early game rouge

[brazen wedge]

make vanilla weapons rouge

[ashen warren]

So Throwing exists, but is just useless earlygame?

[fervent zealot]

yep

[barren hound]

nah most good vanilla weapons are still throwing

like beenades and bone glove

[civic rampart]

Wait bone glove is gud?

[barren hound]

plus ninja and fossil armor are still throwing

[ashen warren]

Really, I don't know if the devs were trying to make it a little compatible with other mods, but I feel as if it's all or nothing when changing an entire class. So we don't get incompatible little quirks like the wulfrum throwing armor and early game consumables.

[fervent zealot]

they weren't

rogue is its own class

[ashen warren]

Then why not convert the early game throwing?

[fervent zealot]

because not fucking with vanilla shit.

[brazen wedge]

changes thrrowing to rouge MADE A NEW CLASS

[fervent zealot]

rogue is going to be its own class once fab is done with it

throwing was always lackluster, so it's likely he's going to flesh it out into a full class.

[brazen wedge]

yeah but its sort of weak right now

[fervent zealot]

as rogue, instead of throwing.

[ashen warren]

Yeah, but I will dread the stage of the game where I have to get crystalline with only wulfrum knives.

[fervent zealot]

more stuff is likely to be added.

[tulip fulcrum]

Here's may opinion about calamity throwing being changed to rogue:
While i can understand why for this change, the thing is, changing it to that almost felt like it screwed almost everything up

[ashen warren]

Now instead of complaining about adding melee weapons to throwing variants, we gotta complain about changing melee and throwing weapons to throwing weapons.

[tulip fulcrum]

What I'm saying is that they should've waited a bit longer before they made the change

[ashen warren]

I want my beenades back.

[fervent zealot]

why wait, so people can cement it more in their mind that throwing is here to stay?

better to move it now while throwing is still rough around the edges to rebrand and redo it.

it's easier to uproot a sapling than it is a tree.

[brazen wedge]

me: time to kill WoF with beenades class changes goddamit

[ashen warren]

Why is fixing throwing weapons making it screw everything up?

[fervent zealot]

beenades are still fucking op lol

don't need throwing class to make them busted shit

[tulip fulcrum]

I said wait because in my opinion, rogue is not ready yet

[ashen warren]

Yeah, but now I can't melt WOF in about a half minute

[fervent zealot]

yes, you can

it's called use the vanilla throwing sets if you want to abuse beenades.

[ashen warren]

With Statigel.

Which was arguably the best for that.

[fervent zealot]

i don't see what's wrong with not using statigel

rogue isn't going back to throwing.

[tulip fulcrum]

We know that already

[sleek wigeon]

Wait do vanilla sets and weapons not fall under rogue?

[ashen warren]

No

[fervent zealot]

nope

[sleek wigeon]

If so, that should be fixed

[ashen warren]

Its intentional afaik

[fervent zealot]

^

rogue is supposed to be completely severed from throwing iirc

[ashen warren]

^

[fervent zealot]

it already has two phm armor sets like all vanilla ones do, even

[ashen warren]

So, throwing's back where it was. A little ironic that the mod that set out to amplify it docked it in favor of a literal carbon copy.

[fervent zealot]

there are other mods to make thrower great

[brazen wedge]

part of raiders tailsman tooltip is "Whenever you crit an enemy with a rogue weapon your throwing damage increases"

[fervent zealot]

oversight

[ashen warren]

PHM

[fervent zealot]

thrower is a vanilla class phm.

you've got the standard 2 armor sets and variety of weapons.

if you think that isn't enough? go play thorium or SoA

[tulip fulcrum]

Hm

[fervent zealot]

throwing is no longer a calamity supported class, end of discussion.

[tulip fulcrum]

Well, my opinion still stands

[sleek wigeon]

I dont see the point in removing support for a class in exchange for literally that class under a different name

[ashen warren]

Being seperated from shitty vanilla code
super secret thingy deedle

[fervent zealot]

fab plans to make it into more than "that class under a different name" afaik

and also ^^

[tulip fulcrum]

We know that now

[radiant meadow]

https://gyazo.com/46a806ba8d6af30eb7ae3ed896fe0a13
this as well

[sleek wigeon]

Hopefully its reworked into a crit, stealth class

or something

[fervent zealot]

all we can do is wait and see

[tulip fulcrum]

Mhm
I know we may've dragged this on for too long, but I wanna leave it there with my opinion:
They should've leave the items as throwing FOR NOW and leave a tooltip under the"now no longer throwing" weapons and said "these will change to rogue soon", so that it doesn't screw throwing over at the moment, and when rogue is finished, then they can change it over to rogue

[sleek wigeon]

That would be dumb

At that point just keep it secret

[glossy bough]

What’s up with the levels and proficiency system I keep seeing?

[fervent zealot]

wrong place to ask, go to #calamity-mod-talk and

[glossy bough]

Good point

[tulip fulcrum]

Well, say whatever you want, it's just my opinion, plus they don't have to leave a tool tip there if it's a secret

But hey, it's their mod, they can do whatever they want with it, I can't blame them for doing things like this

[ashen warren]

I thought we were gonna end this

[tulip fulcrum]

We will now, I was just finishing up ending it

[lost agate]

Whats happening here?

[tulip fulcrum]

One person suggested about changing rogue back to throwing

[cold terrace]

[tulip fulcrum]

Yeah

[glossy bough]

Lel

[lost agate]

Yeah that aint happening

[glossy bough]

No it was a config

I think

[tulip fulcrum]

Hm?

[glossy bough]

A config options file

[tulip fulcrum]

I know someone suggested configs, but i didn't know there's already on for that

Well, that makes my opinion a bit... Obsolete???

[lost agate]

What about we just drop it already?

[tulip fulcrum]

Yeah

[glossy bough]

Good idea

[tulip fulcrum]

And just talk about worms being immune to glacial-whatever

[glossy bough]

How about we talk about more serious things, like the Fartpack

[tulip fulcrum]

Pfffff

[glossy bough]

[tulip fulcrum]

I believe there was a discussion about that

[ashen warren]

And it ended with 'Lets leave that alone'.

[lost agate]

Mhm

[glossy bough]

Lel

[tulip fulcrum]

Yeah

[glossy bough]

Ok

[tulip fulcrum]

At this point, it's like beating a dead horse

Tho the horse died some time ago

[glossy bough]

It ended up with like 24 stars tho

[ashen warren]

Not fifty tho.

[glossy bough]

Sadly

[tulip fulcrum]

Oof

You could maybe repost it

If it's over a week

[glossy bough]

Nah they would get mad

[ashen warren]

Still a joke.

[tulip fulcrum]

Oof, right

[glossy bough]

Maybe I could replace fart with plague

[ashen warren]

I dunno how my piss bottle got 50 though.

[glossy bough]

Bc it’s meant to be a weaponized wing set

[tulip fulcrum]

Wait whaaaaaaaat???

[glossy bough]

WTH

[ashen warren]

An ichor throwing weapon

Ichor Spear

[glossy bough]

Rogue*

[ashen warren]

A spread ichor rogue weapon.

[spark flax]

an ichor rogue weapon that doesn't suck complete ass*

seriously ichor spear has such pathetic ichor time

[glossy bough]

^

[tulip fulcrum]

How so?

[ashen warren]

Made for events like frost moon where large application was necessary and functioned like the throwing flask from vanilla.

So, in essence, Jarate.

[glossy bough]

Lunic eye is better anyway

[ashen warren]

Golden gun is good for single target application.

[glossy bough]

Lunic eye is a fun weapon

[ashen warren]

But was complete butt for groups.

[spark flax]

doesn't golden gun fuck up i-frames tho

since it pierces 1

[ashen warren]

Ayup.

[spark flax]

lmao

just bite the bullet and use everglade

[ashen warren]

Cursed flames is kig bay.

[glossy bough]

Lel

[ashen warren]

Also, I try to do pure runs,

[glossy bough]

Cursed flames is pretty butt

[spark flax]

tbh give corruption worlds a way to get ichor

[fervent zealot]

evil island.

[spark flax]

a unique mob or smthn

[glossy bough]

^ Luiafk

[ashen warren]

Evil islands

[spark flax]

oh right

forgot that existed

[ashen warren]

Wish it was planetoid instead

[glossy bough]

Me too

[spark flax]

wish perforators didnt spawn on the surface when you try to spawn 'em on evil island

[glossy bough]

You can spawn them on surface

Or any other evil

[ashen warren]

Queen bee does 2

[glossy bough]

You can spawn perfs in corruption I believe

[ashen warren]

No.

[radiant meadow]

you can't

[glossy bough]

Ah I guess that’s only EoW/BoC

[lost agate]

You cant either iirc

[ashen warren]

Wish world evil was more relevant lategame

[glossy bough]

What

I’ve spawned EoW in crimson I swear

[ashen warren]

Other mods?

[glossy bough]

Probably

[lost agate]

Ahem

#calamity-mod-talk or #other-mod-talk you choose

[glossy bough]

Ok

[golden sonnet]

new suggestion is mainly geared towards the shredder, as primary fire uses the weapons special ammo, while secondary fire uses ammo in inventory, meaning in most cases the secondary fire is better. (unless this is a bug)

[ashen warren]

Bloody arrow, nice.

[sterile moon]

thx

[ashen warren]

Can you spell check 'Alternative', but the concept seems solid, if not extremely addable.

[glossy bough]

Buen idea

[ashen warren]

Interesting, but shouldn't the lunic eye be in the crafting?

[delicate raft]

I was going to say that

[glossy bough]

No

Marked Magnum isn’t in Lunic Eye recipe, is it?

[radiant meadow]

no