suggestions-discussion

[prime creek]

Also what's the process with a suggestion getting starred? Is it still a bot?

[ancient dragon]

It's done by Cool Dudes or higher.

[prime creek]

👍

[ashen warren]

what about throwing

[ancient dragon]

Conservative.

[ashen warren]

oh wait didn't see it

[ancient dragon]

Nnnice.

[ashen warren]

very epic

thanks kobold

Gonna regret saying this I swear

[ancient dragon]

I will fucki—

[quiet abyss]

imo Makes the "friendly" modifier limit at 2 instead of 3

Or at 1, even
Even a single slot is a big boost for summoner

[ashen warren]

especially in earlier fights, 9 extra slots on providence, she'd melt faster than you do from holy inferno

[pine solar]

"It's already been suggested quite a few times before, and has been forwarded to the devs in at least one of its iterations."

isnt there a mark for it?

☑ this one, I guess?

[frail mantle]

Ye

[ashen warren]

Coin farming item, sounds like an empty niche.

Cant imagine using it that much tho, since you get more off of just selling the bags contents.

[keen oxide]

You have to spam shift click a lot

Plus outside of bags it turns into a mess of items

Also it would work on Frost and pumpkin moon

[cedar jacinth]

Probably suggested but whatevs

[lost agate]

Yeah i think i suggested it

But idk if it was sent

[cedar jacinth]

It would be really cool to see and make the boss even more epic.

[radiant meadow]

well, if it got sent then someone will have to add ☑

[lost agate]

Yeppers

It got sent

Imma give you a star anyway

[radiant meadow]

I'll add ☑ then

[cedar jacinth]

thank

[lost agate]

Np

[cold terrace]

also

[lost agate]

I cant send it 🤷

[quiet abyss]

Gimme a bit

[radiant meadow]

Pinkie the Dev, On Duty

[lost agate]

Wait, you actually can?

[ashen warren]

If the future bosses ever get readded, there should be a slime god one, given its lore

[lost agate]

They wont tho

Scal, thats not actually op

[ashen warren]

how about an aquatic version of crabulon

[radiant meadow]

yeah, it's not op at all

especially since hm gear kills him in 5 seconds

[lost agate]

^

[ashen warren]

just like with the desert scourge and the aquatic scourge

oh whoops

yeah im horribly wrong

but who likes my idea

[hollow shell]

What idea?

[ashen warren]

even though they dont't except boss ideas

scroll up a little bit

[hollow shell]

Why even ponder boss ideas at all?
Zero tolerance policy

[ashen warren]

just a thought not a suggestion

[hollow shell]

My point still stands.

[ashen warren]

ok

what would be a good idea though?

[round falcon]

A good idea would be filling in gaps- such as Summoner or post-Golem Throwing.

[ashen warren]

yeah

[round walrus]

The last suggestion, just why?

[lost agate]

@ashen warren what would the npc do? Also, farming for pocket mirror oh boy

[ashen warren]

I was kinda vague because i dont really know, i was thinking it could be an npc from a group currently dead, such as a member of statises clan

[lost agate]

Well, try to think it out and add that

[ashen warren]

Oh sure i removed it until i can flesh it out more

[lost agate]

Ok

[ashen warren]

Okay was the ravager made in the jungle temple? I cant find anything on where it was made

The ancient medallion is made from temple stuff so i assume so

Ravager was made by people who graverobbed to save their hides. Then were killed by ravager

I guess ravager was originally a proto golem?

So one of them could have been petrified, and if the ravager failed to find it, that person might still be encased in stone....

Ravager has a weak petrification

So feasibly, that person could have been petrifed and left to die by the monster

I thought if you moved too far away it just straight up petrified you

Yep

And also a debuff that reduces wing time

Called weak petrification

[radiant meadow]

does that happen? never got petrified

Ravager just despawned

[ashen warren]

It says so on the wiki though that might be outdated, ill test it now

Is gud?

So it looks like he cant petrify you, at least not anymore, but it like to point out this "Its mind lacked the capacity for any thought beyond slaughtering all in its sight"

Mind?

I thought it was an automation

[earnest raptor]

A ultimate

[radiant meadow]

self star
yes, it's allowed but frowned upon

[earnest raptor]

I'm grow

Maybe i get a time, where every my suggestion are sends to dev, and few are implemented.

i faster become a dev

[heady comet]

🗿

[ashen warren]

Okay is this better?
The atoner npc
This npc spawns post golem exclusively in the marble biome, he is turned to stone and must be rescued, this is done by right clicking him with the pocket mirror in hand
He sells gear based upon the ravager.
For melee he sells the ravagers claw fist, it is a melee weapon that functions just like the golem fist, but it also shoots out fireballs while lacking the golem fists massive knockback
The next weapon is the ranged drill missile launcher, it fires rockets resembling the ravagers, powerful and homing but reaaally slow. They dont destroy tiles regardless of what rockets used
For magic, he sells the flame pillars, these function similar to the clinger staff, albeit two are summoned at once, to the left and right of the cursor.
For summon, he sells a mini version of the ravagers head, it flies slowly towards enemies like the eye of cthulhu, and slowly fires lasers at them too. it takes up 2 summon slots.
For throwing, he sells mini versions of the rock pillars, which are consumable and explode upon impact with tiles but not enemies.
He also replaces the witch doctor as the npc that sells the ancient medallion.
The atoner was one of the humans that contributed to the construction of the ravager. He gifts the player enough money to purchase one of these weapons if a dialogue option is clicked, just like the tavernkeep
He will comment on the destruction of the ravager, and begs the player to let the tortured spirits used to craft it rest. He takes notice when ravager is buffed after providence is defeated

[radiant meadow]

so how exactly would you save him?

would you right click him w/ pocket mirror in hotbar?

or when equipped?

[ashen warren]

With the mirror in the hotbar

[radiant meadow]

where would the npc spawn?

[ashen warren]

See thats the thing, if ravager cant actually petrify himself, it would have to be a marble biome

But if he can it would have to be on the surface

I cant decide honestly

[radiant meadow]

I'd say marble biome because it feels more unique

they can be like Thorium's buried champion spawners

[ashen warren]

How do they work?

[radiant meadow]

they spawn in the marble biome post skeletron and spawn Buried Champion when you kill them

except this time you would right click them

they look like petrified players w/ wings

[ashen warren]

Thats pretty cool

Yeah i feel the marble biome is kind of lacking normally ever since medusas were made hardmode

[lost agate]

Oh boy, long suggestions

[radiant meadow]

it was just an npc and a weapon for each class they would sell

[ashen warren]

or you could smash him open with a hammer

[ashen warren]

That would succeed in killing him

[tropic yoke]

Thanks for the 50+ ⭐s :D

[lunar berry]

@frail mantle might be a bit old and might be annoying for you, but conservative wouldn’t work on single throwing items, and doesn’t really provide a bonus. Maybe aerodynamic could also affect throwing weapons?

[neon panther]

@glass star might want to give an example and elaborate
like, elaborate a lot

[radiant meadow]

please elaborate so we know what you want

[neon panther]

“Add a new dimension” doesn’t tell us much

[covert wing]

especially the concept of a new dimension is wayy to broad

[glass star]

Fair enough

[tropic yoke]

Should the abyssal diving helmet be an accessory instead of a helmet?

[radiant meadow]

it is both

[tropic yoke]

really?

[radiant meadow]

it can be put in accessory slot or helmet slot

same with abaddon

[covert wing]

for example "A giant ocean of honey" would be a hillarious idea for a dimension

[bitter topaz]

custom dimensions
what, is this suggestion trying to summon dradonhunter or something?

[glass star]

I probably should have been more specific with what I meant, are you familiar with the aether mod

[mystic glade]

yep

[tropic yoke]

glowstone and wooter

[covert wing]

yeah eather is fun iguss

[tropic yoke]

but this terraria

[radiant meadow]

no

[bitter topaz]

anyway, terraria has no native support for custom dimensions. so it's near impossible currently

[radiant meadow]

honestly, the closest thing I can think of is Super Terraria World's use of multiple worlds

[mystic glade]

so are you kinda talking about like the dimension added by i think Enigma?

[glass star]

Which is why I said it would take a lot of coding

[covert wing]

so you either have to be a fucking madman and inject code right into thr basegame or wait for an update

[ruby cobalt]

"enigma's dimension"
Which is basically the same world, with filter put over it?

[mystic glade]

yeah

[ruby cobalt]

Yeah, well, no.

[covert wing]

bevause minecraft, unlike terraria, is meant to go between dimensions

[mystic glade]

but mod calls it dimension

[glass star]

Also no @mystic glade I meant like an aether like portal

And there is a way that it could be achieved in essence

[ruby cobalt]

Wait for Dradon to finish his grandiose projects.

Then we'll talk.

[neon panther]

dradon

[glass star]

Add an entirely different world into the folder and tell the player to enter the new world

[bitter topaz]

that's a really stupid idea, though

[covert wing]

that could cause alot of spaghetti code

[bitter topaz]

it's clunky and unprofessional

[glass star]

Granted it would momentarily break immersion but I don’t think people play teraria for imersion

Fair enough

Or its an item that just teleports you to another completely unaccessable otherwise part of the same world

It would in essence just be a teleporter

It would probably be laggy the first time you teleported there but enh

And it would be rather clean

The teraria already has a couple extra blocks outside of the playable zone all this would have to do is extend it

@bitter topaz

[bitter topaz]

fucking with the world even more than calamity already does
wouldn't work, the camera stops at a set distance from the world edge, it's not as modifiable as you think it is

[ruby cobalt]

And trudge through abhorrent vanilla code where half the shit is hardcoded.

Mhm, yup, let us get onto that.

[glass star]

There are plenty mods that reclaim those extra blocks

Ive seen like 3

Without even looking

[bitter topaz]

said mods fuck with vanilla code, then.

it's a general rule of thumb to not touch vanilla stuff unless absolutely neccessary

or it should literally be the only thing your mod does

[glass star]

Fair enough

[bitter topaz]

@tame moss neat little suggestion, but save it for when it's actually feasible to do

[radiant meadow]

should I star it then?

[bitter topaz]

nope, starring it would be useless

if it's straight up not possible at the current moment starring it would be moot

[glass star]

It is theoretically possible just probably would have quite a few bugs to work out @bitter topaz

[bitter topaz]

"theoretically" means programming an API for it

which is already being done by another person, with said project not even being in an alpha state yet iirc

as me and drh have already said, wait for said project to be completed before suggesting this kind of stuff

and also, there's no need to ping me as i'm right here

[glass star]

In my opinion at least the fun of coding is the challenge

[bitter topaz]

you're missing the point.

the person actually working on this API is semi-official member of the actual tmod dev team

[glass star]

I get that you are saying it can’t be done

Ah, I thought u were saying it was a separate modder

[tame moss]

That’s fair, just an idea on my part.

[opal barn]

@potent veldt Amber staff already buffed btw

[potent veldt]

When? I dont recall seeing it

[radiant meadow]

oh, it was?

[ruby cobalt]

And you wont.

Read changelogs next time.

[opal barn]

I guess you have to read better changelogs

[radiant meadow]

so many things got buffed/nerfed, it's hard to keep track

[ruby cobalt]

Ctrl+F

[potent veldt]

Mobile

[opal barn]

You can still search things using mobile

[radiant meadow]

should the suggestion just be deleted then?

[opal barn]

Leave it since it says to make amber easier to farm, so that's a thing

[marsh gust]

top right of the screen, magnifying glass

[potent veldt]

Ah there it is

[radiant meadow]

so it should just be changed to just make amber easier to farm

since it already gets buffed

[potent veldt]

Fixed it

[marsh gust]

just search like 'in:#changelogs amber' ig

[potent veldt]

Already found the buff

[sleek wigeon]

@potent veldt amber crawlers exist

so no

not a limited resource

[tropic yoke]

Eidolon Armor

I like the flail

[stable adder]

i mean, ashen and ancient sinks dont even work with water

they are totally useless

[tropic yoke]

?

[radiant meadow]

what do you mean crafted through the use of lava?

[tropic yoke]

Do the sinke get broken by lava?

[stable adder]

magic lava dropper and lavafall block

you also need a crystal ball too

it makes more sense if you are using magic storage

[tulip fulcrum]

So if I'm getting this right, instead of ashan and ancient being regular sinks, make them act as sinks, but it gives lava instead of water

Right?

[proven tide]

@ashen warren What's the cooldown?

[ashen warren]

the default 60 seconds

[proven tide]

Might like to put that into the description

Also, healing 125 HP and giving the Honey regen post-SK is a bit broken. What's the progression lock? Alchemy Table?

[ashen warren]

It requires bee wax, so its post queen bee

[proven tide]

Wait, shit, I thought that was Hive for some reason (kek)

Carry on

[ashen warren]

The default duration for the honey buff is 30 seconds, so half the time you dont have it

[radiant meadow]

is it consumable?

because royal gel might be slightly annoying to get

[ashen warren]

Well it requires killing queen bee at least once per bundle too

The max amount of bee wax you get from her is 29 i believe

[stable adder]

@tulip fulcrum right

[ashen warren]

i think the royal gel is a pretty easy part of the recipe

[tropic yoke]

Eidolists should drop pieces of the "Eidolon Armor Set."
Head: 34 defense, 15% DR, removal of the negative effects of the abyss, except for darkness, and water breathing.

Robes: 16 defense, 5% DR (50% from eidolon/cultist enemies), and 23% increased damage.

Tail: 28 defense, 10% DR, and 125% increased vertical and horizontal movement speed in water (-15% on land).

Set Bonus: Abyss enemies become friendly, except for eidolon wyrms.
Getting his will release ice mist, or 3 electrospheres.
Fishing poles gain 4 lures

: Eidolists are extremely underwhelming in the current game. Nothing they drop is really worth getting, and this armor would change that.

Are the stats good, or should they be nerfed? Buffed?

[ashen warren]

Well i suck against the new golem, so i use them to go straight to celestial pillars

[tropic yoke]

Hol' up... New golem?

oh no

[ashen warren]

The golem is pretty massively buffed

[tropic yoke]

SHRERHS

Well, They're still not as useful as they could or should be.

Just 3 eidolists

If they drop each piece

[lunar berry]

uh

sounds extremely op

i mean 30% DR is not a joke

thats almost 2 worm scarfs

[ashen warren]

Its over 3 worm scarfs

Well exactly 3

[frail mantle]

that alone is nearly exceeding the softcap

[tropic yoke]

lul

oh, I'm used to revengance soft caps

4% DR each

That ok?

[ashen warren]

Are the abyss enemies friendly the same way slimes are friendly with royal gel?

Because if so that would be busted

They cant damage you at all but you can damage them?

[devout seal]

Yeah, that'd be broken

[ashen warren]

I think the set bonus should be swapped, making only the eidolon worms friendly, but unlike with the royal gel you cant damage them either, to prevent easily grabbing the gear from the adult worm

[radiant meadow]

I think it would be better if none of the minibosses were friendly

Reaper Shark does not look like a friendly fellow

[ashen warren]

Im thinking that it would make you look enough like an eidolon worm that they wouldnt attack you

[tropic yoke]

How about nothing targets you, but does damage depending on what layer of the abyss you're in.

Layer 1: Empty iirc
Layer 2: 100
Layer 3: 500
Layer 4: 1-Shot

If you happen to get hit.

Maybe take the damage out of targeting mechanics and they'll only become hostile if you get too close.

Or leave it up to the devs.

Minibosses become friendly?

I feel like all this might exceed the 2000 character limit x'D

[radiant meadow]

minibosses become friendly doesn't sound like a good idea

I think the passive abyss enemy effect besides minibosses is simple and fine how it is

[ashen warren]

Yeah that with zerg would help with getting the halibut

[frail mantle]

if it exceeds the limit put it in a doc

[tropic yoke]

hmmm

I think the "only attack if you get too close" is the best idea.

Eidolists drop pieces of the "Eidolon Armor" set after the Golem is defeated.
Head: 34 defense, 3% DR, removal of the negative effects of the abyss, except for darkness, and water breathing.

Robes: 16 defense, 6% DR (31% from eidolon/cultist enemies), and 23% increased damage.

Tail: 28 defense, 6% DR, and 125% increased vertical and horizontal movement speed in water (-15% on land).

Set Bonus: Abyss enemies will only attack you if you get too close to them. Harming them will not cause them to become hostile.
Getting his will release ice mist, or 3 electrospheres.
Fishing poles gain 4 lures

: Eidolists are extremely underwhelming in the current game. Nothing they drop is really worth getting, and this armor would change that.

Reduced DR (hehe) and abyss enemies only attack if you get too close.

Also made items:

[barren hound]

are Eidolists the worms or those guys in the dungeon?

[radiant meadow]

is lunatic cultist exempt from the 50% dr?

and when in progression should this be obtained?

[tropic yoke]

After the Golem is defeated.

[radiant meadow]

okay, add that it only drops post golem

[tropic yoke]

Is it ready?

[radiant meadow]

add that minibosses are exempt from the set bonus

[sleek wadi]

Eidolons DO already have a worthwhile drop... in a minimum bosses run. Eidolic Tablet is how you reach LC without Golem and Skeletron

[radiant meadow]

especially since eidolon wyrms only aggro on hit or when using rod

they can't hurt you in passive phase

[tropic yoke]

hmmm.

Should I remove the no targeting mechanic?

I don't it'll work

[radiant meadow]

you could add the alternate option of the royal gel effect on normal abyss enemies

and the devs can choose what is easier to code/balance

[tropic yoke]

How about... Only wyrms become friendly. I think someone said that before.

[radiant meadow]

but then you could get easy kills

[tropic yoke]

oh... Either eidolon or abyss enemies?

[radiant meadow]

like adult eidolon wyrm

[tropic yoke]

Sir, that's 1,000,000 HP with 1 damage per his.

Don't care who you are, that's not easy.

[sleek wadi]

Coldheart Icicle.

[radiant meadow]

yes, but with p90 or something, it would be a huge sequence skip that requires little skill

at least jamsicle requires some skill

[sleek wadi]

The thing deals a flat % of health, so it kills EVERYTHING in the same amount of hits being 50 IIRC

[radiant meadow]

unless they're immune like destroyer and doggo

or in mp where the weapon doesn't work

[sleek wadi]

So for the low cost of sitting in a dungeon for who knows how long, you get a free ticket for everything till DoG because of Soul Edge

[radiant meadow]

eidolic wail on prov sounds

[tropic yoke]

Only non-miniboss enemies become friendly

[radiant meadow]

yes

I like that

[tropic yoke]

ok

How about 25% DR against minibosses?

[radiant meadow]

I think that's good

lower dr for cultist/eidolon to 25% to match

[tropic yoke]

Set Bonus: Non-miniboss enemies become friendly, and 25% DR against abyss minibosses, cultists, and celestial enemies.
Getting his will release ice mist, or 3 electrospheres.
Fishing poles gain 4 lures.

[radiant meadow]

idk about celestial enemies

[tropic yoke]

Dang

[radiant meadow]

although I think the armor is in good shape for a suggestion so far

[tropic yoke]

I'll remove the celestial DR and post now.

Thanks for the feedback.

[radiant meadow]

no problem

[tropic yoke]

Should I post the items, too?

[worthy fiber]

Sure

[tropic yoke]

:D

[worthy fiber]

The tail would be nice to have as vanity at least

[tropic yoke]

Yeah.

I like the idea of eidolists.

Half cultist, half eidolon wyrm.

Then you think of the adult eidolon wyrm being a cultist and your whole world is wack.

[worthy fiber]

Gotta love that Lore

[marsh wasp]

That actually reminds me of my Eidolon Armor idea I've designed
My version is actually Post-Polterghast tho

[tropic yoke]

upgrades, man

I mean, look at auric tesla.

eggs dee

I think the mods left lul

no ⭐s yet

[worthy fiber]

They'll do it when they can

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic yoke]

ye

I'm going to do a depressing solo-revengeance run now cya

[worthy fiber]

rip

[radiant meadow]

if possible, put it in one post

[jovial spire]

"What is aruric tesla an upgrade of?"
"Yes."

[marsh wasp]

I'll definitely give your suggestion a star as soon as at least one star pops up

[radiant meadow]

a star just popped up now

;)

[jovial spire]

It has

[tropic yoke]

Auric tesla has 4 other armor sets in it

[worthy fiber]

It's essentially an upgrade of all of them

[jovial spire]

And a carpet

[worthy fiber]

Yes, that too

[radiant meadow]

but yeah, can you put the sprites in the first message?

[jovial spire]

With an ice barrier

[tropic yoke]

So it;s an upgrade

[eager palm]

couldnt you at least put the star on his last post for the sake of consistency

smh

[tropic yoke]

oh ok

[radiant meadow]

no, I'm starring the 1st one so he can put the 2nd message in the 1st one

[tropic yoke]

hmmm

Can't seem to put the items into the first message

[radiant meadow]

just put the image links

[worthy fiber]

Do the embed thingy

[tropic yoke]

how I do that?

[worthy fiber]

Right click on image

Click "Copy Link"

[tropic yoke]

ok

image adress?

[radiant meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/528372107483021312/image_6.png

[worthy fiber]

Copy that link ^

[tropic yoke]

Yay finally x'D

[radiant meadow]

all better 👍

[devout seal]

they'd have to be sheeted too, y'know.

[radiant meadow]

it's still a nice start

[vestal elbow]

-15% on land

[tropic yoke]

Well, the legs, which I think is the hardest part normally, can be animated in only a few frames because eidolists levitate and they wouldn't respond to the ground.

The head is easy, just one frame in different places, and the body just needs something to not make arm-needing animations look weird.

or, look normal

[stable adder]

id prefer a pre-moon lord throwing set tho

but the eilodist isn't really a throwing enemy

[radiant meadow]

I believe that's called throwing ataxia armor

it works fine

[worthy fiber]

@little raptor kinda confused on what you're saying there

[lost agate]

@little raptor uh, elaborate

In confused on what you mean there

[frail mantle]

Please elabotrate™ on why™

[hollow shell]

I think something went terribly wrong with that suggestion

[frail mantle]

It would seem that way

[hollow shell]

Ohhhhh I see it

It's the banners that can appear in the Desert Pyramid

He's suggesting for them to be craftable, and that they all share the same recipe

(could be formatted way better tho)

((still not gonna star it because of that.))

[lost agate]

Mhm

[ashen warren]

@radiant meadow

[radiant meadow]

oh

fine

I read #suggestions-voting before #suggestions-discussion okay?

[ashen warren]

[radiant meadow]

I understood what the suggestion wanted immediately

[ashen warren]

big brain

[radiant meadow]

@little raptor I suggest reformatting your suggestion so it can get starred.
Like this:
Add a recipe to the Snake, Omega, and Ankh Banners (the ones that spawn in pyramids)
A good recipe for them can be 2 Silk - 2 Desert Feathers at Loom.

[mystic glade]

and add a reason why to maybe

[radiant meadow]

because they can't be crafted and they are in limited supply?

[lost agate]

@magic verge yharon drops it because the shrine can fail to spawn

And since we dont wanna let people without BR for rng generation, yharon drops it

[ashen warren]

maybe he only drops it if it isnt present in a chest?

[lost agate]

That would be entrusting to code

[ashen warren]

ya

it could use the same code as 'sort into nearby chests' probabbly

[lost agate]

Nah

[magic verge]

how about generating the shrine upon yharons defeat?

[ashen warren]

it could still break

[lost agate]

Then again, what if shrines generation fails?
Btw, you find the shrine post polter, so you aint really giving it more potential for revisiting

Exactly

[magic verge]

maybe revisite that idea for later updates

i still feel that having a need to goto the deepest zone of the abyss after beating everything to get terminus is a pretty badass concept

[lost agate]

You basically find it while farming post polter

So it aint that awesome

[quiet abyss]

@warm pier Any reason why you want that?
This change is pretty unnecessary

[quiet abyss]

Ah, that

[ashen warren]

that's not fargo's, this is what dryad's shop looks like w/ fargos

[lunar berry]

ye

also this might just be me but if i have fargo’s the dryad sells double

like two of each summoning item

[ashen warren]

fargo has it's own npc that sells the spawners

[wise pollen]

Pretty sure the devs of other mods won't be happy if you make a function specifically to disable their features

Just sayin

[lunar berry]

no

it’s happened multiple times

when different mods have interacted with each other

[worthy fiber]

Calamity makes the Dryad sell boss summon items

[lunar berry]

^

[ashen warren]

the npc's to left and right are the fargo npc's

[lunar berry]

ye

calamity already does both of those

[worthy fiber]

So having both Calamity and Fargos will flood Dryad's inventory

[lunar berry]

yes

[frank stratus]

gg

[lunar berry]

and if you have multiple mods it makes her have full shop slots

[hollow shell]

@warm pier

s'not Fargo

[lunar berry]

you have multiple mods

[ashen warren]

we need a mod that scrolls npc inventories

when they overflow

idk if that shohuld be a calamity thing

[lunar berry]

but fargo + calamity does make the dryad sell double spammers

spawners*

[ashen warren]

no it doesn't

[lunar berry]

huh?

[ashen warren]

i just posted a screenshot of the dryad's inv with both enabled

yes it does

[quiet abyss]

I don't even know anymore

[lunar berry]

might be just me then

[ashen warren]

what other mods do you have?

it does for me 🤷

probably luiafk

[hollow shell]

That would be it

[ashen warren]

or some shit

i have luiafk as well though

[hollow shell]

I don't think it's Fargo's
because Fargo already adds a spawner selling NPC
having the Dryad sell some would be redundant

[lost agate]

Then its imksushi

[hollow shell]

could be that too

[warm pier]

I mean, when fargo's mod is enabled then boss summon items in vanilla shop would be......kind of redundant?

[hollow shell]

Exactly

[quiet abyss]

Perhaps

[hollow shell]

So we think your suggestion is inaccurate

that another mod is to blame

[lunar berry]

can someone make a suggestion on natural boss spawning

i’m too lazy to do so

[quiet abyss]

But why delete redundancy instead of leaving it alone?

[hollow shell]

Because redundancy is bad?

[quiet abyss]

Perhaps
Maybe it's just me, imo it's not necessary

[ashen warren]

a scrollable npc inventory like exensible inventory would solve the problem

buuuut outside of the scope of calamity i guess

[hollow shell]

I'm surprised that isn't built into tModLoader like the extra inventory space starter bag is

[ashen warren]

yeahh

[lost agate]

But that sounds like something a QoL mod would do

[ashen warren]

ye

[tropic yoke]

Nice suggestion, @warm pier

[tulip fulcrum]

I must agree with the suggestion

There is absolutely a crap ton of items in some npc's inventory and it's quite overwhelming

[tropic yoke]

There's 5 ways to get the SLE with my mods lmao

[tulip fulcrum]

Lol

[low remnant]

@warm pier good suggestion, I'd make it so it disables the Boss Spawners if IMKSushi's Mod is active too

[tropic yoke]

The Halibut Cannon should be a 1/2500 drop. If 1,000 enemies are killed in the abyss, the Halibut Cannon will also drop.

[ruby cobalt]

No?

[worthy fiber]

The rarity's there to compensate for how powerful the gun is

[tropic yoke]

It's only a ~40 kill difference, excluding every enemy in the abyss besides the cuttlefish, but it still makes me angry.

[worthy fiber]

It's supposed to be an insanely rare drop because it's a cheese gun

If you want a gun like that you gotta kill a lotta fish

[unique vector]

its a meme item

i dont see the drop rate being set to a definite amount anytime soon

[tropic yoke]

I honestly feel too drained to be proud.

I've been farming since 9pm, and it's now 3am.

[worthy fiber]

You should sleep :/

[tropic yoke]

nahhh

I'm gonna celebrate

plus, it's break

Also, PRE SKELETRON

gettin' offtopic

hmmm

The dungeon should have an abyss, crag, and astral biome chest.

It'd be neat

[lucid marsh]

That is a good idea

But weapons are needed for them first

[tropic yoke]

i know

no this isn't a halibut segway so shut

I'll think about it tomorrow

I think I either hate or respect the abyss infinitely more now.

[sudden quail]

I can see Calamity doing something like that.

Thorium added biome chests for Hell, the Desert & the Depths, after all.

[worthy fiber]

Didn't know that 👀

[sudden quail]

Yeah, it's a neat update. The weapons inside them are for unique classes, too. IIRC...

Depths = Healer, Hell = Bard, Desert = Thrower

[sharp helm]

I'd make a joke suggestion but at the same time nah.

Not like, some super cool amazing forknut weepon, but moreso something to fit the theme of the Drunk Princess

[tropic yoke]

Welp, halibut got me to WoF so far :

:D

[unique vector]

no duh

[tropic yoke]

Still never gonna get back my 6 hours.

[heady comet]

fabstaff should be added i agree bro

[quiet abyss]

Considering the power of it, I'm not surprised

[unique vector]

its a meme weapon, it breaks progression like all hell

[quiet abyss]

Also, wrong channel to be talking about this

-> #calamity-mod-talk

[tropic yoke]

ooh Eidolon broke 50 likes

thanks peeples

[lunar berry]

ye but the weapons in the biome chests each represent a major class

[worthy fiber]

There could be one for throwing, though not sure what the other two would be

[sharp helm]

Coming back, it's actually not a weapon

My idea that is

It's yet another alcoholic beverage, but a bit more on the... straight to the point side.

[worthy fiber]

What're you planning?

They just need to be sprited

And coded

[faint rivet]

Tbh I don't need more banners in my inventory when I'm zerging

[frail mantle]

Autotrash exists

[worthy fiber]

I know some people in the art server sprited some

No progress since

[weary walrus]

Can you explain it further? @tough maple

I don’t really understand

[tough maple]

@weary walrus instead of mana you have souls when you kill an enemy you get souls or when you kill a boss you get overloaded that makes you special attack or boost stronger this effect is only active in revengengence hardmode

[weary walrus]

So it’s alternative version of mage?

Instead of making a boss drop the overloader, making it directly affects you after you kill that boss

Because the overloader will be useless with other classes

[tough maple]

Kind of yeah But the weapons dont use souls

But you need to use soul weapons to get souls

[weary walrus]

Oh.... Then i think the weapon should inflict a debuff that make the enemy drop souls upon death eh?

[tough maple]

Yes

But the debuff Has a 40% Chance to happen

And in wave events only 25%

[weary walrus]

The dubuff duration should be really low so that players can’t cheese by inflict the debuff then use other class weapon to kill it

Sounds good?

[tough maple]

If you attack it with a other weapon while the debuff is there you lose souls and life

Like you can use a other weapon But ut needs to be a soul weapon

[spark flax]

Adding in new weapon classes isn't really Calamity's thing

Would work better in a different mod

We have Thrown and that's just because it was already in the game just neglected

[earnest raptor]

Ultimet armor
The armor of distant future
Post-Polter universal armor set

Headgear:
33 defense
30% increased damage
25% increased critical strike chance
+35 max hp and mana
Omni-vision
Water breathing effect

Breastplate:
33 defense
On getting hit your next melee attack are 3x more powerful
You have a extended area of vision
On decreasing mana you gain speed and defense bonus
Your minions prioritises enemy, which deal damage to you
Give ability to heavy dash, which can block projectiles and enemy's damage

Greaves:
33 defense
30% increased movement speed and max flight speed
8% increased max moving speed
Press N to teleport to cursor, it's have cooldown of 8 seconds

Set bonus:
30% increased fishing power and mining speed
9% increased damage reduction
You can move in water as on surface and swim
You take 15% less damage from Abyss enemies, including minibosses
You gain melee speed bonus as health gets lower

Craft:
Head: 12 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 12 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 10 Reaper Tooth + 30 Ectoplasm + 12 Potion of Omniscence
Body: 16 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 16 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 40 Ectoplasm + 12 Reaper Tooth + Tabi
Legs: 13 Silver/Tungsten Bar + 13 Cobalt/Palladium Bar + 35 Ectoplasm + 11 Reaper Tooth + Rod of Discord

:

1. Alternative set to Bloodflare.
2. A good multiclass set in post-ML, like Astral
3. Abyss-based armor.

Yeah, i'm god of spriting.

[radiant meadow]

what a resprite

I recommend putting a cooldown on teleporting and the increased melee dmg when getting hit

that looks like god for true memee

[ashen warren]

name seems like a misspell

but that could just be me 🤷

[radiant meadow]

could be a play on words

[earnest raptor]

Ultimet is real life alloy.

And yeah, some play of words.

Back to suggestion, it's a good?

[quiet abyss]

@magic verge That doesn't give devs much to work with
It's better to just make weapon concepts yourself and post them as suggestions. Smth like this
[Weapon Name]
[Class]
[Its effect]
[Recipe/Dropped by X]
[Reason on why this should be added] - This one is optional but this can helps make your suggestion seem more reasonable.

[earnest raptor]

Posted.

[radiant meadow]

you still didn't add cooldowns?

[earnest raptor]

Added to teleport.

Other?

[radiant meadow]

the boost to melee when hit

as fun as true memee is, it should still be balanced

[earnest raptor]

Changed.

But on true melee it's maybe unchanged.

[radiant meadow]

am I blind or do I not see the cooldowns?

[ashen warren]

Maybe use Astral armor as an ingredient to justify the shared benefits?

[rancid edge]

i don't see the cooldowns either

[quiet abyss]

Me neither

[radiant meadow]

@earnest raptor you need to put the cooldowns on the suggestion in #suggestions-voting , not the one in #suggestions-discussion

[earnest raptor]

I'm stupid

Added

[weary walrus]

Wait, isn’t N key is the key for Aegis buff?

You might want to change the teleport to other button

@earnest raptor

[earnest raptor]

Changed.

[frail mantle]

should't

[earnest raptor]

Argh

I'm dont know needed verb!

[delicate raft]

Disappear?

[tropic yoke]

Dude, I hate slime god projectiles

grrr

[radiant meadow]

@ashen warren assuming you are complaining because you are doing slime god nohit, a good tip is to use cheat sheet to clear projectiles
still a nice suggestion regardless; glhf

[ashen warren]

Cheers, but i already did it

[radiant meadow]

🎉

can help with future nohits like astrum deus too

[weary walrus]

@earnest raptor i think L is too far to reach when you’re fighting but i guess you can change it in settings

For the best, set it Q

[radiant meadow]

Aren't keys usually unbound at first?

like modded ones

[ruby cobalt]

They are, but only sometimes.

[frail mantle]

@ashen warren please elaborate™ on why™

[weary walrus]

@ashen warren plz make it into one message

[ashen warren]

cuz it would just be cooler

[radiant meadow]

yeah make it one message

it'll make it easier to star

[lost agate]

Thats a dev thing tho

[ashen warren]

ok

[frail mantle]

you should rephrase that, instead of saying "it would be cooler" say "it would allow for some nice character customization

[lost agate]

So idk

[ashen warren]

ok

[radiant meadow]

I think it's harmless enough

[ashen warren]

it would look better and make the devil go along and compliment the players current vanity

[radiant meadow]

It's probably allowed even if its a dev armor

after all, Lompl gave a suggestion about Red Sun once

[ashen warren]

oof

[frail mantle]

that is a valid reason

basically, just say the same in a more complicated way

[radiant meadow]

@ashen warren Put your suggestion in 1 message please

[ashen warren]

ok sorry

[weary walrus]

Yet he hasn’t done that

[ashen warren]

how do i put it in one message

lmao

[radiant meadow]

use shift+enter

you can also add your reasoning to the first message if you want

[ashen warren]

but how do you shift + enter on a message you already put?

[radiant meadow]

you edit it

[ashen warren]

ah ok

[tropic yoke]

Calamity should nerf these drops, just sayin'

all this in just 30 minutes.

[fervent zealot]

no thanks

[tropic yoke]

Dang

[fervent zealot]

if you wanna break the game with fishing - go ahead

[tropic yoke]

I might summon duke without the truffle soon.

[cyan lagoon]

you cant summon duke without truffle worm

even if you have over 666 fishing power

[tropic yoke]

oh

[lunar berry]

i think it was a joke but whatever

[unborn latch]

@near crown Mate, if that happened you would just switch it over Heal and Put it away, This would basically make it that healing potions Heal double past ravager, you would just put it in vanity, when You are low you would Use it and Unequip again.

Broken suggestion.

[fervent zealot]

that strategy requires a brain though

besides you can already do that with the charm of myths for 15s less potion cooldown

[unborn latch]

Yes... and that is also a Busted accesory

[fervent zealot]

not really

[unborn latch]

But it's not Nearly as busted as The idea would be.

[fervent zealot]

so what, either leave blood pact in the shitter or deal with one obscure cheaty technique?

[unborn latch]

It might not even be worth it with Charm of myths since the Time it would take to equip it in a boss battle could kill you.

[fervent zealot]

the same goes for blood pact

but even more so because of its crit mechanic.

and besides, if you want to abuse such a stupid bug, why should the mod stop you

[unborn latch]

The charm of myths would Give you 15 less seconds and no Downside.
Blood pact would remove it's downside and Keep it's Insane Upside.

Why should the mod let stupid bugs exist?

[fervent zealot]

here's a thought for you

blood pact is a shitty accessory as it stands

and this buff would help it greatly.

[faint rivet]

^

[unborn latch]

We can find diffrent ways.

[fervent zealot]

and for that matter, it's not even a bug.

[radiant meadow]

blood pacts only unironic niche will be lost next update tbh

[tropic yoke]

I know this is ironic, but Ravager should drop more items, and more useful items.

[fervent zealot]

it's an unintended side effect.

[unborn latch]

It's abusing the game.

[fervent zealot]

well guess what?

PEOPLE ALREADY DO THAT.

[sleek wigeon]

the fuck is a "true summon" hit?

[unborn latch]

We shouldn't have an Item that with the use of 4 Collective braincells you can abuse the game to a point that you make everything Obselete.

[fervent zealot]

we already have multiple of those lmao

[unborn latch]

And that is not a good thing.

[fervent zealot]

besides, doubled health potion effect doesn't make the game obsolete

not even close, as a matter of fact

[unborn latch]

Yes it does.
It's an Insane buff.

[sleek wigeon]

Doubled health potions definetly doesnt make the game obsolute

[fervent zealot]

^

[sleek wigeon]

Dont you pretty much heal to full with health pots anyhow?

[radiant meadow]

don't forget that rev is getting big dmg boost next update

[unborn latch]

Ok maybe it doesn't.
But you can't argue the buff is insane.

[fervent zealot]

IT NEEDS AN INSANE BUFF.

[sleek wigeon]

healing from half health?

[radiant meadow]

and omega healing pots are gonna be post doggo

[unborn latch]

Potions don't need a buff.

[fervent zealot]

blood pact is prime ass right now

[unborn latch]

Better make an item prime ass then make it OPAF

[sleek wigeon]

Bloodpact is really bad, having it heal more would allow health potions to scale with it

[fervent zealot]

i actually had an idea for buffing blood pact to be a gimmick accessory

[sleek wigeon]

and again, double health potions isnt that big a deal, since everything 2 hits you anyhow

[fervent zealot]

keep the current crit rate, but have it do double potions and also disable the life regen cap

fat health, fat hits

[cold terrace]

blood pact would still be bad with doubled health pot effect

u still take 3x damage

[sleek wigeon]

20% of the time

[fervent zealot]

it's 25%

[sleek wigeon]

same fucking difference

[unborn latch]

You wouldn't have the Crit Rate anyways since you would just swap it when you wanted to heal.

[cold terrace]

very unreliable

still a shit accessory

neat idea, shit accessory

[unborn latch]

Using it really, it would still be trash.

Abuse it, and you will break the game, not make it obselete but Make it way easier.

[sleek wigeon]

would at least have a niche

Again

Not even close to breaking the game

[fervent zealot]

if you really want to try and stop a good pact buff idea because of one obscure abuse that most players don't have the braincells to do, then go ahead

[radiant meadow]

the suggestion still stands and if the devs find it broken, it will be nerfed
simple as that

[sleek wigeon]

potions healing double what they do know used to be just default.

[unborn latch]

The only good reason to use it would be to abuse it, without Abusing it it's still not a good accesory.

[fervent zealot]

but it's a step in the right direction

[unborn latch]

No it's not, it wouldn't be a better accesory, and it would allow an easy break.

[sleek wigeon]

again , it would hardly be a break

[fervent zealot]

guess you're not smart enough to get it through your head that doubled health potions isn't as game breaking as you think it is

[sleek wigeon]

You should be healing from half health always

[unborn latch]

It's still A huge buff for no reason.
Might aswell let Ravager Drop a Consumable that makes you heal twice more.

[sleek wigeon]

unless you wanna play fucking chicken while attacks can one shot you

[fervent zealot]

uh, no

THAT would be fucking broken

[unborn latch]

But this is literally the same thing.

[fervent zealot]

haha, haha

NO.

[sleek wigeon]

Not in the slightest

[radiant meadow]

no it's not

[unborn latch]

What is the Dirrence?

The only one is that you have to press Right click on it first.

[radiant meadow]

blood pact swapping requires some attention in the middle of a boss fight

[sleek wigeon]

Changing an acessory is harder in high octane moments

[fervent zealot]

it takes time to switch accessories, and during the time you can be crit

[sleek wigeon]

Boss fights are hard enough without having to divert your focus

[fervent zealot]

^^^^^^^^^^

[sleek wigeon]

and if you can divert your focus without dieing, then you didnt need double healing anyway

[radiant meadow]

I'm already pretty bad at charm of myth swapping

[fervent zealot]

i don't even bother charm of myth swapping, because it takes time away and would likely get me hit for more than the 15s would save me

same goes for this, but with the added risk of instant kills from blood pact crits

[unborn latch]

No legit reason not to use it on middle health.
Let's hust say you have 600.
You have a 150 Potion.
You heal at 300.
You can still take a hit, and survive and Still benefit a lot.

[fervent zealot]

or, or, or,

you could use more than a 150 potion

[unborn latch]

Only if the Hit is a crit.
But still, getting hit is unlikley if you can multitask for 1 Second.

[fervent zealot]

it takes more than one second to switch accs lmao

[unborn latch]

If you use more then a 150 Potion, you also have more health.

[sleek wigeon]

Multitasking is hella hard when you have a big ass boss breathing down your neck

[fervent zealot]

unless you've literally been practicing to use one specific cheese

[unborn latch]

No it does not, If you are accurate.

[fervent zealot]

ugh, there's no fucking reasoning with people like you

[unborn latch]

It's not ''Hellahard'' when you have to do it for 1 second.
Also, the Accecory would literally be worse.

When you use it legit.

[fervent zealot]

i'm done dealing with this, have fun ijones

[sleek wigeon]

diverting your attention AT ALL means death in some fights, especially when you are at low health

[unborn latch]

Now let me ask you, why would anybody bother to use this legit.

[sleek wigeon]

Gimmicks

[radiant meadow]

a use is better than no use tbf

[fervent zealot]

so that it's not COMPLETE ASS that effectively HALVES YOUR LIFE REGEN and HALVES YOUR HEALTH FROM POTIONS.

double health is SHIT without other health related stats doubling.

[radiant meadow]

[fervent zealot]

i was actually gonna suggest blood pact doubling your life regen, too, but i thought "nah, probably too strong"

never the fuck mind, i'm making my blood pact suggestion a go

[unborn latch]

You cannot deny this is easy to abuse and that it's still not a Good accesory.
Actually the Doubling Life regen could be way better.

[fervent zealot]

guess what else is easy to abuse

halibut cannon, daedalus stormbow, chlorophyte shotbow, etc, etc, etc

[unborn latch]

?

[fervent zealot]

calamity shouldn't decide how you play the game

[unborn latch]

Halibut Cannon is a meme and nobody who actually wants to play the game would use it.

[sleek wigeon]

Lots of things are much easier to abuse

[fervent zealot]

calamity doesn't exist to hamper your playstyle of choice.

if you want to abuse? calamity doesn't fucking stop you

[sleek wigeon]

You can face tank slime god, for instance

[fervent zealot]

calamity isn't an antifun mod

it used to be, but that was changed

[sleek wadi]

When Calamity was an anti-fun mod it was god awful

[radiant meadow]

won't be able to face tank in rev next update

[sleek wadi]

For someone who doesn't like being told what to do Fab sure did try to force you to play his way during the Calamity darkage.

[fervent zealot]

that changed though

[sleek wadi]

If someone wants to cheese let em.

[fervent zealot]

so why stop a suggestion because of such a primitive mindset

we don't because we're forward thinkers.

[unique vector]

imagine playing the primitive mindset card

[fervent zealot]

imagine actually having an excuse to play it

[ashen warren]

Is the blood pact dropped by the ravager?

[radiant meadow]

yes

[misty talon]

That and several other tradeoff accessories

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Did you draw that?

[ashen warren]

i wish

im downright criminally inept at drawing

[hollow shell]

Who did?

[ashen warren]

i searched a simple doodle of an Illithid

[cyan lagoon]

Might wanna give credit to the original artist

[hollow shell]

(Color scheme looks coincidentally similar to Astral's, lol)

and yes very ^

[ashen warren]

@cyan lagoon i would, but the picture itself its from an IMGUR album and it has no watermark/sign whatsoever

[mystic glade]

then just put the author name in

copyright a scary force

here got it for you, PortlandPrivateer

[hollow shell]

Not sure if he made it
but I guess it's your best bet considering I can't find shit using Google Image reverse-search

[mystic glade]

^

[hollow shell]

just the imgur image and some virus-filled image sharing site

and one site that doesn't work

[ashen warren]

i highly doubt the IMGUR album owner is the artist, but ok, i'll replace it with a sprite asap

[mystic glade]

no most likely not

[radiant meadow]

There's no need for extra suggestions

just attach a google doc

[hollow shell]

Yeah a doc would be preferred

[mystic glade]

okay i found it after a little bit searching, it is an illithid( commonly known as mind flayer), it is from Dungeons and Dragons(RPG), im guessing the pic is some kind of fan animation

[hollow shell]

indeed

@ashen warren Please include an image and not a file

[ashen warren]

Yeah sorry didnt realise

[hollow shell]

Gotta export it first

[tropic yoke]

Rip thiccwich

Message got drowned lul

[radiant meadow]

@ashen warren the acc goes with the npc?

[ashen warren]

hmhm

[radiant meadow]

put it in a google doc with the original suggestion then

along with other stuff they sell

[ashen warren]

👌

[radiant meadow]

and then delete it afterwards once you add the google doc

[mystic glade]

copy and paste

[ashen warren]

I highly doubt anything like it would be added, but a new area at the bottom of the abyss, featuring high temperatures, poison like the sulphur sea, giant tube worms and most importantly hydrothermal vents, explaining the existance of the sulphur sea

[hollow shell]

What?

oh

(weirdly phrased)

[radiant meadow]

still a pretty cool idea

[rustic ember]

Has a mercenary npc already been suggested? Since I have an idea

[tropic yoke]

Either Cryonic Bars should require The Essence of Eleum, or Chaotic and Perennial Bars shouldn't require Chaos and Cinder.

It's a tiny thing, but it really just bugs me.

[radiant meadow]

I think someone suggested that a while back and it got sent

the cryonic bar thing

not sure about the mercenary npc

[rustic ember]

Ok

I'll send my suggestion here first

[lunar berry]

+3 max minions? sounds not op at all

and in pre-hardmode?

[radiant meadow]

I mean bee armor is +2

[lunar berry]

while a necromantic scroll only gives +1

?

that’s armor

not an accesory

[radiant meadow]

oh, nvm

[lunar berry]

that’s op af

also the - at the start of every line confuses me

[sleek wadi]

Considering the summoning requirement is only an abyss visit the cracked pendant should only give a 1 slot.

[fervent zealot]

nope, summoner needs love

[sleek wigeon]

• 3 minion slots prehm

[sleek wadi]

Summoner needs love, but not that much.

[fervent zealot]

honestly so many summoner accs are balanced around the vanilla "summoner-as-support" it's sad

[ashen warren]

I feel like the sea star staff should have better AI

[sleek wigeon]

Still thats like

doubling minion slots

[fervent zealot]

actually that's not such a bad idea

since minons rart ai

how about we just double the amount of them?

[ashen warren]

double the minions = double the ai

so it must be better

[sleek wigeon]

Because thats +3 minion slots summoner has at every point in the game

[ashen warren]

I was thinking AI were they would latch on to the enemy

[cyan lagoon]

and vanilla pushes the summoner is just support thing like the next messiah

[ashen warren]

to me I would rather use the slime staff

[cyan lagoon]

thats why one of the only options for pure summon vanilla early on has is as rare as passenger pigeons

which is frank to say, near none

[fervent zealot]

so why not say fuck you to vanilla and make summoner great again

[ashen warren]

Yeah

[fervent zealot]

actually that just gave me an idea

what if, permanent summoner slot count upgrades?

[sleek wigeon]

no

That just benefits every class

[ashen warren]

Terraria In general needs to have an overhaul for summons

ye

the class is hella stunted

So should my Idea be suggested

[fervent zealot]

make them rev+ then since that's where summons as a proper class narrative is really pushed the strongest

[frail mantle]

the fact that summoner needs an entire mod dedicated solely to it tells me it's lowkey bad

[ashen warren]

I dont know how people can do a pure summon run

[rustic ember]

New NPC Suggestion

The Mercenary

-First spawns after killing EoC
-Acts like a minion but you have to pay him every minute
-The price increases depending on what stage of the game you are
-His strength also increases the further into the game you are
-You can toggle what enemies he attacks (bosses only, regular enemies or both)
-He starts off with a sword however giving him a weapon of a different class changes his weapon (You can take back the weapon at any time)
-If he "dies" he'll go back to his house and he won't be usable for a while
-Giving him a summoning weapon just makes him latch onto the enemy
It's a nice alternative considering rev+ gives so much money with little to spend it on and it means other classes have more protection since they won't be making any summoner weapon

[fervent zealot]

through a lot of pain, that's how

[rustic ember]

There's my suggestion

[cyan lagoon]

(obviously given you're referring through vanilla)

it's actually impossible

[fervent zealot]

slime staff yeah

[ashen warren]

u have to kill the slimes

[fervent zealot]

even if you cheat in slime staff it's still suffering to an extreme

[cyan lagoon]

if you can get one that is to even start summoner

[ashen warren]

The Terraria N mod did something like that

not pure if u killin slimes with a tool : )

Hows this now? New layer to the abyss, located in small ravines directly under the 4th layer
It features a new mob, the tube worm, which does 5-25 damage depending on difficulty, but can rapidly attack the player like as if they had the determination breaker the defence reduction of the abyss can make them deadly
It also damages the player constantly similar to the sulphur sea, the damage is reduced by the bezoar, however it also deals constant heat damage, which is reduced with obsidian skin potions or lava charm
Both of these can only be reduced, and will still deal damage even with correct equipment.
The very bottom has hydrothermal vents, which deal massive damage if you get too close, but can be sealed to change the sulphur sea.

what kind of loot?

move terminus, or special loot?

Tube worm throwing weapon?

what you guys think of my recent simple suggestion?

More throwing def wont hurt

[tropic yoke]

^

[ashen warren]

we should not let fargo's have all the fun.

[tropic yoke]

x'D

[fervent zealot]

fargo's will update tomorrow™

no worries

[ashen warren]

I rather like the flying knife

Its like the magic missile, only actually good

he did all the other magic knives, but not flying for some reason.

[fervent zealot]

we need more flying knife type items period

[ashen warren]

would an item that lets you click and drag summons be useful?

forgot to add that it should just be converted at a work bench like fargo's does it.

the tube worm could be a summon that attacks fast and pierces through enemies

[hollow shell]

Ech
I feel like the main reason shouldn't be based around Fargo's Mod
for that Flying Knife suggestion

Main reason should be throwing weapon variety
or something else based around why it'd be good for the mod

[cyan lagoon]

Given that other mods =/= suggestion cons

unless its clear plagiarism

[ashen warren]

you mean that post golem gap

[cyan lagoon]

nah flying knife is way earlier

beginning of hardmode

[ashen warren]

Would it be possible for the tube worm to attach to the player, and whip enemies?

Yes

As a summon i mean

the dank staff does

I said it that way as, "why should another mod steal our glory, I mean, we have throwing verients of weapons too."

[radiant meadow]

but Calamity doesn't have throwing variants of vanilla weapons

[ashen warren]

It doesn't?

Calamity is pretty much the best mod yet for terraria

[radiant meadow]

just most modded boomerangs, sotc, and empyrean/illustrious knives iirc

[ashen warren]

Thorium, tremor are nothing compared to this fucking awesome mod

having lui and fargos and they are a godsend for thower

especially luiafk with the unlimited grenades

[hollow shell]

Yeah Calamity just has alts for its own weapons

it doesn't touch vanilla boomerangs etc

[ashen warren]

though not really broken quite balanced

as grenades are risky

high risk/reward

you still damage yourself

most people go with melee though because theres more variety like swords and yoyo

[sleek wigeon]

grenades arent really risky

[ashen warren]

well if you go with bouncy/sticky

[frail mantle]

melee suffers around ole angery skelly hed tho

[sleek wigeon]

Why would you though?

[ashen warren]

if you know what your doing your going to be fine

they get slightly more damage vs default

[cyan lagoon]

Though uh @ashen warren , you'd have to think about how they pulled out.

Tremor's team wanted everything redone

[sleek wigeon]

Damage isnt everything

[ashen warren]

bouncy is good on worms

[sleek wigeon]

So are normal grenades

[ashen warren]

sticky is good on warior ai

[cyan lagoon]

and thorium's dev team (the goons, both active and inactive) are much smaller compared to Calamity's

[ashen warren]

okay maybe im too enthusiastic

[radiant meadow]

how does this pertain to the throwing vs melee thingy?

[sleek wigeon]

So are normal grenades

[ashen warren]

should there be flash grenades made from normal grenades and souls of light

[radiant meadow]

more early hm thrower options? sounds cool

[ashen warren]

That should be a new class demolition

[radiant meadow]

but will it be viable for cryogen?

sounds like it would be good for destroyer and twins

[ashen warren]

It would work like a flash and yes

there would be new explosives and they would be through out the whole game

you could do more damage than other classes but you would have to be more careful

How about a new accesory from the demolitonist? The bomb bag, he sells it hardmode, it buffs the damage crit chance and projectile speed of grenades, like the magic quiver

[sleek wadi]

Just have demolition be a thrower subclass, kinda like summons and sentries for summoner.

[ashen warren]

But there would have to be better versions of grenades and infinite versions too

the consumable ones would be for the basic ones

Wasp grenades craftable after plantera

yeah

[fervent zealot]

coming soon™

[ashen warren]

and cursed grenades

Hallowed grenades craftable after 1 mech boss

these would be infinite

L U N A R G R E N A D E S

profound grenades

obvi a new pillar too

big explosions

[radiant meadow]

new pillar bad

[ashen warren]

😉

tremor did it

[radiant meadow]

spaghetti code destined for disaster

Tremor was a mess

[ashen warren]

and we all know

tremor is high quality

[frail mantle]

"tremor fat", i say, as i play a playthrough with tremor

[ashen warren]

Okay, so early hardmode you would have Frost grenades from cryogen, sulphur nades from aquatic scourge, and napalm bombs from the brimstone elemental, with hallowed grenades if you choose to do them first

the developers quit tremor

because it was bad

That gives an option after every boss

and they would be infinite

launchers would be added to this too

super nova launcher

Brimstone nades if you choose calamitas, wasp if you choose plantera

Astral nades from deus

and honestly end the game with a pilotable stealth bomber

and a super big rocket launcher

you could call in air strikes

hell yeah

mines

guerrilla warfare

smoke bombs

lul improvised exxplosives

you could make them out of a lot of stuff

nukes

varying effects

radiation poisening

A radiant biome with mutated creatures

but it spawns after you nuke an area

after the Plague Bringer Goliath is defeated

biological and chemical warfare

[cyan lagoon]

plague biome has been suggested many many times