Maso mode calamity edition
#suggestions-discussion
teal shoal
glossy bough
alright I gtg to church
unique vector
cya
vale basin
what the fuck did i just read
frail mantle
depends on where you read it
ashen warren
Try warmth potion vs destroyer, cryo, ice golems etc even this patch
They ainβt useless, and the buff makes those debuffs much less annoying
sleek wadi
Warmth potion is really good against Cryogen, Ice Golems, and the frost moon if you're tackling that in HM. It'll be real good next patch now that you are immune to chilled during it.
radiant pawn
why would you need 10% with a life saving potion
if you want 10% damage or crit chance
just make wrath and rage potions
ashen warren
@violet tusk I don't think that's completely necessary, the Silva and Auric Tesla sets will take care of all those remaining debuffs.
And Demonshade is a glass cannon, debuffs are a risk you run
Here's the list
sturdy latch
old, but scuse me?
cyan lagoon
Everything else requires living shards Mikpin
ashen warren
ya thats a horrible sugestion
cyan lagoon
and Fabsol considers terra stuff post-plantera things despite them supposedly being obtained earlier
ashen warren
why would you want to farm that bastard plant even more
livid coral
Honestly? Yes. Because Fab doesn't like the forums anymore and I can post all the official shit when it gets approved immediately than putting it in an obscure place like, idk, the art discord.
potent lake
I also see people asking why 'x' lore isn't on the Wiki yet, or where they can find official Lore.
So it'd help to keep things all in one place.
livid coral
Once it hits fifty I'm totally making it. Probably in announcements.
potent lake
π
ashen warren
who likes my suprem calamitas mask idea and sprite (not finished)
livid coral
Please not
hollow shell
SCal doesn't really need a mask considering how similar she looks to Calamitas
sleek wigeon
Thsi feels like an alt
ashen warren
so either one works
drops from both
i ment because she is a human but fights in a eye or ship
hollow shell
iirc an update will come out eventually that will make her actually look human
For now she's an eye
hollow shell
Not me, no
ashen warren
what about Mountain drew
hollow shell
He programs the mod. You can find all the spriters in the art server
devout seal
they don't sprite either
ashen warren
do they know though?
hollow shell
Know what?
ashen warren
the sprite
devout seal
It hasn't been made yet.
ashen warren
let the dev talk
hollow shell
The SCal sprite will likely be handled by the developers when the time comes. It's not a priority at the moment but it will happen at some point in the future.
devout seal
Rover's really only a dev because he's proved to be very helpful to non-devs.
livid coral
Pretty much.
hollow shell
Kek
livid coral
No Rover is a good awesome person who gives great suggestions and helps with the suggestions here
hollow shell
I've done a lot of stuff in the Dev server actually
devout seal
Oh
ashen warren
so its yharim and draedon right now thats there priority
hollow shell
I deliver the suggestions, mainly.
devout seal
And i've just made a handful of sprites
ashen warren
oh
hollow shell
Their fights should release at some point around when SCal gets her human resprite
ashen warren
do you know the release date
hollow shell
Nope
devout seal
No-one does.
hollow shell
It's likely pretty far off
ashen warren
what do you mean far off
hollow shell
A good few months, maybe a year
livid coral
Yeah we have other priorities atm, like balancing, cleaning up stuff, and shit.
ashen warren
oh
livid coral
And getting some dev/donator items in.
ashen warren
how do you become a dev
livid coral
By not asking for it.
ashen warren
so by earning it
hollow shell
Mhm
ashen warren
i'll have dead Inside and be a dev in no time
hollow shell
Good luck
hollow shell
Admittedly it is very bad. It's far too large, not in the proper resolution, and breaks a lot of the spriting rules/conventions .
I recommend going to the art server's spriting channel (link to the server in #rules) and learning what to do and what not to do
ashen warren
do you devs know each other in person
hollow shell
Nah
hollow shell
oof
ashen warren
make astral ore spread instead of insta spawning the biome
hollow shell
What even is that?
hollow shell
I won't
It's frowned upon to include downloadable files in your suggestion, especially without a summary
ashen warren
To be honest I could appreciate if the stuff you suggest aren't like... super out of context
glossy bough
Tbh the summary would be the title and the 
would be explanation.pdf
ashen warren
Why did you have to make it a file though?
hollow shell
Put the images and descriptions in a viewable online Google Doc instead of a zip
ashen warren
oh
hollow shell
Just go to the Google Doc website or Google Drive
and make a new doc
and paste the images and descriptions in there
It ain't hard at all
glossy bough
ok I'll do that next time
most of these are meant to be fun and interesting weapons with no practical use
hollow shell
Or, this time.
I'm not gonna star a zip file, I'm sorry
glossy bough
ok
glossy bough
I converted it
cyan lagoon
@tough maple sorry, let me stop you there
while you can put boss suggestions in there, they will not be accepted
It's frowned upon by the general community though it doesnt do much harm
Better to post them here as long as it isn't "haha its lorde/astrageldon slime"
ashen warren
Ok so first, the rapier of discord sprite is actually a broadsword shape but that's mostly just a nitpick
glossy bough
If it's just a nitpick, then save it for the end 
ashen warren
Your suggestion doesn't have a tl;dr for the doc or a reason why they should read it since yours is pretty long
I like the vulcan gun but the rest seem.. half-baked
glossy bough
okay
ashen warren
Cosmilite for the vulcan gun though? not a chance imo
glossy bough
most of them aren't meant to be practical
ashen warren
The knocker is just the slap hand
glossy bough
but I'll probably change cosmilite to divine geode
knocker has much larger range and firerate than slap hand
ashen warren
Discord rapier is a neat concept however wasn't the UHF-Murasama gonna have a warp mechanic?
ashen warren
Ultra-High Frequency Murasama
ashen warren
I saw it in the art discord, "Needs to be sprited" channel or something like that
I think it was made private or something similar
ashen warren
..Why?
glossy bough
lorde gif
ashen warren
Smh my head 
glossy bough
lel
mystic glade
@glossy bough you should put an explanation of what that doc. is so people can kind of know what theyre clicking
steady cloud
how do you get the italic font??????
i cannot seem to figure out where/how to get it
glossy bough
without spaces
glossy bough
yes
steady cloud
it worked thx
ashen warren
some of those ideas are a little bit out there
but the devs will definitely add them
glossy bough
who
ashen warren
@glossy bough are your sure the developers are going to take the ideas like the "Mega Bean" seriously
glossy bough
lel
glossy bough
focus on the most recent suggestion
cyan lagoon
No it doesnt
glossy bough
ok
hollow shell
What?
glossy bough
my bad
tulip parcel
yeah you don't need to do that, that's just an unofficial format.
hollow shell
A reason is always welcome
tulip parcel
I never do that, and my suggestions regularly reach 50
cyan lagoon
And what would they put besides "X doesnt have this and that in its stage of progression so this is to solve it", regardless?
glossy bough
good point
radiant meadow
I mean Entropy's Vigil does carry you until the pillars
which might not be desirable
tulip parcel
Intercontinental Ballistic Mistletoe
"Fires an explosive triplet of festive fruits."
Post-DoG Ranged Weapon
Drops from Everscream after Devourer of Gods has been killed.
A large mistletoe, with nuclear hazard warnings on each berry. Requires rockets to be fired.
When fired, the ICBM launches a trio of large red berries, consuming three rockets to do so. These berries stick together in a perfect tirangular pattern, and aggressively home in on enemies. The berries do not pierce, and deal very high damage. Upon impacting an enemy, the berries explode into fragments. These fragments fall to the ground, exploding on enemies they touch. After three seconds, any fragments that landed on the ground explode regardless of contacting an enemy or not.
glossy bough
why ibcm
quasi fable
Why not
glossy bough
glossy bough
point made
ashen warren
look at my new picture
glossy bough
old sprite 
ashen warren
i look fabulous
glossy bough
ok
ashen warren
this would be a good Christmas update
delicate raft
Did you even read the suggestion?
ashen warren
ya
ashen warren
lets delete these messages then
tropic yoke
Supreme Calamitas is typing...
Hol' up.
ashen warren
drops from everscream after the devour of gods is killed
hollow shell
Yes
ashen warren
lets forget about this
delicate raft
steady cloud
@glossy bough ok i'll add it
added π
should i make an upgrade for before the star grinder?
i think its a pretty big damage boost and such
steady cloud
how's this
ashen warren
"inflicts demon flames" 
steady cloud
i know
ashen warren
They just want moar
steady cloud
wait what
delicate raft
And that Star Grinder is just way, waaaaay too OP
steady cloud
ok ill fix it any sugestions
ashen warren
From what I've heard the burning sky is viable against scal
delicate raft
Kinda, tho it's hard to see SCal's projectiles
ashen warren
So balance it around dealing about the same dps
ashen warren
Also "Demon Flames is a very powerful debuff that causes the target to lose 2500 HP per second."
steady cloud
awwwwe okay ill fix that
ashen warren
You can use it if you want
worn bay
Also, Ark of the Cosmos exists as an upgrade to starfury
ashen warren
Scal is immune to it anyway 
ashen warren
Oi don't talk smack about the ark line
steady cloud
yes sir
ashen warren
Both technically
steady cloud
aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwweeeeeeee comon
ashen warren
Ark is my fav melee line tbh
steady cloud
but mine is more of a direct upgrade is it not
steady cloud
??
ashen warren
It's literally a star wrath upgrade
steady cloud
did not see it on the wiki
ashen warren
Not in recipe
steady cloud
ill stick it in
ashen warren
!wiki Galactus_Blade
red stormBOT
steady cloud
but its supposed to be an upgrade to the star wrath
oh maybe ittle be just the galactus blade
radiant meadow
well, why would you want to farm for 2 star wraths?
sleek wigeon
By being a cool dude +
steady cloud
π‘
sleek wigeon
Not really based on the wiki
Yharims crystal isnt a legendary because doesnt have the "legendary drop" tag
Simple as that
And its meant to be crazy rare
civic rampart
No i just want it to be affected by defiled
sleek wigeon
Doubtful its gonna happen\
steady cloud
who's mine or other dudes??
sleek wigeon
???
steady cloud
doubtful its gonna happen were youre exact words
worthy fiber
It isn't :P
ashen warren
hold on
quiet abyss
It isn't actually listed as one iirc
And it is affected by defiled rune
ashen warren
well it drops like one but it isn't one
worthy fiber
It's not affected
civic rampart
But the defiled rune page say no
ashen warren
is it out of date?
ashen warren
show pinkie the page she might know
quiet abyss
@mild dagger Merge both of your messages in #suggestions-voting please, so all of it will get sent
worthy fiber
It's not affected by the Rune
mild dagger
aight
quiet abyss
Hmm...must've remembered wrong then
Though I could've sworn someone said they do
worthy fiber
I checked the list of affected drops from the Sors man
civic rampart
Cos they drop at a 1% chance similar to legemdaries?
worthy fiber
But it isn't counted as a legendary 
sudden quail
Didn't someone make a sprite for a Sulphurous Sea fountain?
worthy fiber
Yes, someone did iirc
civic rampart
Is the wiki page goin to be fixed or...?
ashen warren
saw one for a mauler. it looked fucking awesome
hollow shell
A legendary thing is only a legendary thing if it says so in the tooltip
Yharim's Crystal does not say "Legendary drop" in its tooltip as far as I'm aware
worthy fiber
Neither does it have the stylish rarity
radiant meadow
worthy fiber
Oh
civic rampart
"Like all" , not "like all other"
worthy fiber
It doesn't say other
worthy fiber
I thought you were talking about the wording
civic rampart
Ye I am
worthy fiber
er
ashen warren
Adding a "just" would make it clearer
sleek wigeon
The wording is correct
ashen warren
"just like" et cetera
sleek wigeon
The real crux of his suggestion is having yharims crystal be affected by defile
civic rampart
Yup
narrow saffron
SPAM
lost agate
Guess i missed something
brazen wedge
if i have 50 stars for my suggestion and it doesnt hav a a check do i tell someone or...
brazen wedge
ok
unique vector
the wait time can be from instant to a week or so
brazen wedge
Ok, thanks
placid perch
Biome Fountain
Made @ Crystal Ball w/
100 Grass Seeds, Pure Water Fountain, 100 Green Solution, 100 Astral Solution, 100 Dark Blue Solution, 100 Red Solution, 100 Purple Solution, 100 Blue Solution, 999 Snow, 999 Ice, 999 Sand, 999 Hardened Sand, 999 Mud, 10 Jungle Grass Seeds.
Makes the area any basic biome, not the underground versions or desert versions, just Hallow, Desert, Crimson, Purity, Astral, Mushroom, and Jungle. Right clicking changes the type, no matter where it is. It has a area of 100 blocks in a circle
Underground Biome Fountain
Crafted @ Crystal Ball w/
Biome Fountain, 10 of each gem, 999 Stone.
Makes each biome as before but underground
Desert Biome Fountain
Snow Biome Fountain
Underground Desert Biome Fountain
Underground Snow Biome Fountain
You get the idea, it would make it that version, unless they don't have a version, like say Desert Jungle. I think this would make boime making much easier, and if you feel like it's to OP, feel free to nerf it.
ashen warren
Underground is dictated by height not by blocks
Other than that it's neat
999 of a bunch of stuff is a bit much
All it does is make biomes
placid perch
Well it would just make that area that biome
sleek wigeon
999 is way too much
placid perch
Dont know if its even possible
placid perch
True
placid perch
I thought it would be too OP
ashen warren
How would it be OP?
It literally just makes biomes
You can do that yourself by placing blocks
civic rampart
Maybe for arena making
placid perch
And easier
ashen warren
..no it's not
placid perch
Idk
ashen warren
Clentaminator requires smiting destroyer and buying one
Solution is easy
Just make a house in each biome and move the steampunker whenever you need more
Or get the solutions mod 
placid perch
But what if you want a underground biome, above ground, you never know. Plus I made this at 12 in the night, so I just typed random crap.
ashen warren
Like I said, it's dictated by height
Place a bunch of stone and dirt at floating island level and you won't be underground
Use clenta to make it hallow or evil and it will only become hallow or evil and not be their underground variants
ashen warren
Could you elaborate on your suggestion about elaborating?
fervent zealot
alright bitch you want some elaboration on why you need to elaborate?
you need to elaborate on your suggestions, otherwise they are seen as low effort and lazy
put some thought into it and it's a lot easier to effectively criticize, and a lot more likely to not get immediately shot down by the general population
ashen warren
Ech
What I meant was if you would care At all for such a mechanic
I would die for something like that, but I know some people don't like having to constantly deal with something like the Corruption Corruptors but even worse
I guess I'll just write it then
ruby cobalt
exo gun, exo gun
worthy fiber
old legendaries
ashen warren
I was very much looking forward to otherworlds cleansing-based mechanics and I would definitely like to see how tmodloader would do it, however I'm not too sure about having it be in the calamity mod tbh
Seems cool as a separate mod however
Doneso
The idea stems from how we're told that Astral is a vicious plague that nothing we do seems able to eradicate
tiny rivet
There could possibly be a cleansing method tied to DoG
rapid folio
Hey would a post ML invasion to gain the materials needed to summon Providence (or the Propane Guardians) sound good?
Would be used in either the hallow or underworld
ashen warren
Isn't providence just chilling asleep
worthy fiber
The Lunar Events just happened 
Adding another mandatory event would make things more tedious than they already are with ML
worthy fiber
Events take forever
ashen warren
It's not an event really it's more of a rarer Goblin Invasion
Considerably shorter, but more intense
rapid folio
Yeah, but i was planning something like, basically the objective is to first go through waves of enemies, but later waves spawn less enemies in exchange for tougher enemies spawning (optionally leading up to the guardians)
In other words, a short invasion going into a boss
rapid folio
ah right, the lore
ashen warren
Yas
rapid folio
Didn't take that into consideration
ashen warren
The l 0 r h e
rapid folio
Loreβ’
ashen warren
Make the event have The Lorde as the final boss
worthy fiber
I think so
ruby cobalt
yup
dense girder
how's this
Pocket Nuke - Ranged Weapon (Scorpio Upgrade)
Crafting: Scorpio, Calamitous Essence, Cosmilite Bars, Yharon Soul Fragments @ Draedon's Forge
"All the world's a game of chess, and this is your queen."
This weapon fires rockets with a massive range (square radius of 48 tiles) at about the same rate as the Scorpio's left-click firing. Enemies who are hit by this explosion are inflicted with Cursed Flames, Irradiated, On Fire!, Plague and Burning Blood.
: This weapon serves as an efficient method of crowd control when you get to the SCal-end of the mod thus far. It allows you to deal damage to a boss while clearing out enemies and such beneath you e.g. during a Pumpkin/Frost Moon.
ashen warren
epic
opal barn
@reef swift read changelogs
cyan lagoon
@reef swift 30 - Having the silva invincibility now makes you immune to all debuffs to prevent stupid issues. - Doen white_check_mark
reef swift
radiant meadow
and it's in the newest update, isn't it?
ashen warren
more stabby bois 
mystic glade
why not just make it an upgrade to it?
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren might wanna slow down on the suggestions
quiet abyss
^ Making too many in one day can be a bit too excessive
glossy bough
maybe just stick all of them in a doc
radiant meadow
but you only put related stuff in a doc
ashen warren
this idea just came to mind because i saw an Eidolist chilling beside me and said damn it looks like when you have the Stardust JOJO meme summon
fervent sky
I could make a sprite for it if you'd like Do you have any idea of what it would look like?
ashen warren
i added it to the suggestion, it's basically a Lunatic Cultist that uses it's mask as a shoulderpad-esque addon
fervent sky
Ok cool
ashen warren
i'll try to make an example with the power of photoshop so you can better see
fervent sky
Ok
fervent sky
Ok cool. i see you've provided a description for the weapon too. I will get that done!
ashen warren
"Summons a Eidolist" an would be the correct usage
fervent sky
@ashen warren here's the summoned Eidolist minion
jovial spire
It looks mostly the same as an Eidolist to me exept with the qhite thing on its back honestly
Oh wait does it have more eyes
fervent sky
That's what they asked for
plush remnant
Tome of the Phantom
"The secrets from beyond the veil are finally within your grasp!"
Summoner/multiclass weapon, dropped by Lunatic Cultist.
Summons a phantom copy of yourself, similarly to how the Cultist spawns a clone of itself if you take too long or hit the wrong clone during the dragon summoning attack.
Phantoms follow you in a pattern similarly to the Cultist phantoms, mimic your attacks, but at reduced damage, and redirect aggro to them, which causes enemies to miss their attacks. If you take a hit, they dissipate and have to be resummoned.
Each phantom deals the same type of damage of whatever weapon you currently have in hand.
Each phantom requires 2 minion slots to summon.
: Because multiclassing with summoner is generally useless because of the i-frame issues summons cause. Plus, our boy Lunatic Cultist really needs more love and content.
plush remnant
I know it's gonna be a pain in the ass to code, but what do you think?
jovial spire
Few seconds too late
ashen warren
cool idea
plush remnant
@jovial spire lmao you called it. xD
jovial spire
It seems good
ashen warren
what do you guys think about the idea
jovial spire
Very interesting idea
plush remnant
I have approval, I'll post it in the suggestions channel. :D
hollow shell
You could add it to your suggestion by copying the image link, if you'd like
fervent sky
The item is in progress now
plush remnant
It would be a fun item, tbh.
I might start working on more Lunatic Cultist related content. Because he honestly has none, and he's one of my favorite fights, even if he's more of a speed bump than an actual boss. 
fervent sky
R'lyehnian Edict
hollow shell
No the one with the image made for it . _.
fervent sky
I could give the Phantom Tome a shot too, I have nothing to do until this afternoon
ashen warren
were is the image?
hollow shell
scroll up like 2 seconds
fervent sky
ashen warren
oh
fervent sky
That's the summon, a slightly different eidolist. The tablet's gonna be brand new though
ashen warren
the idea is that it's an Eidolist from a previous Lunatic/Ancient cultist, since they can't wear the mask anymore they still retain it as a sign of their higher ranking/power]
plush remnant
But seriously, I know that Lunatic Cultist is hardcoded, and that boss suggestions are a 
, but honestly, I feel like Lunatic Cultist needs a phase 2. Like, you defeat him, he starts transforming/mutating from losing control of the Lunar Magic or something like that and Bam, phase 2.
ashen warren
Lunatic Cultist second phas = Juvi Eidolon
plush remnant
Lunatic Cultist needs it, man. He's a genuinely fun fight, but he feels more like a speed bump than an actual boss. 
hollow shell
That could probably be done
It'd be nuts but it could happen
fervent sky
Yeah, some sort of new phase would be fun. What if he tries to get you into his cult in his second phase
plush remnant
Nah, you killed his cultists, he just wants you dead for that.
civic rampart
Lunatic cultist summons adult eidolon wyrms instead of phantasm dragon below 10% health
plush remnant
Maybe he could start doing attacks related to the Lunar Pillars.
ashen warren
Well actually when it was in dev the whole lunatic cultist deal was very much different
plush remnant
His death does trigger the events, but he has nothing really related to them in his current moveset.
hollow shell
@sacred thorn Did you DPS test it, preferably against Super Dummies?
ashen warren
It was actually supposed to be an invasion event and then mid-fight the Cultist would open a chat box
hollow shell
How much do they do?
plush remnant
It could be a rng selecting from the 4 different pillar types.
He summons pillar enemies, does pillar related attacks, and the like.
sacred thorn
yelets about 700 and oblivion with 1000
hollow shell
Alright.
Include those values in your suggestion, it'll help
ashen warren
@plush remnant in all honesty i would love if the pillars were more than literally just an enemy countdown
ashen warren
Well, as i said, the original idea was extremely different
The thing we have now is a cobbled together thing born because of little time remaining
plush remnant
Yeah, that's why I didn't add that in my Cultist idea. This is a desire to rework strictly Cultist atm
Although if the entire Lunar sequence between Cultist and the Pillars got a rework, I'd be happy.
But, sadly, they're hardcoded...
ashen warren
The white cultist robes are part of the content that was removed
civic rampart
Duck machine breaks pillars... But tedious to setup
ashen warren
Creep, it seems like our desires are tied
plush remnant
Agreed, agreed.
ashen warren
time for a jolly cooideation
plush remnant
Jolly Cooperation?
ashen warren
Yesh but with ideas
So uh im kinda confused, the item i suggested is now being made? Because if so that is real n i c e
plush remnant
Oh wait, Tim is making sprites for our suggestions? Thanks, man! 
hollow shell
(just Moth's atm)
ashen warren
Big n i c e
plush remnant
Still, volunteer sprite work is always appreciated.
ashen warren
@plush remnant we should discuss privately and then make a doc with the combination
round walrus
Going through all the suggestions I missed and the server is slowing me putting stars on stuff, man.
ashen warren
Afterall its all lunar stuff, so related
plush remnant
Not a bad idea, Nymph. Shoot me a DM, we can make a mini group chat and suggestion doc. We can invite anyone else who wants to help. Call it a community effort. I'm currently rather busy, though, so I can't work on it much, but I can at least get the logistics down.
ashen warren
π
round walrus
I saw a Jojo reference, and that makes me happy
plush remnant
There are a lot of JoJo references, if you scroll up far enough.
fervent sky
@ashen warren here's the tablet. I tried to make a star but it didn't really work, so instead I made a neat little design on it.
Also, for everyone I'm making sprites for, just make sure to give credit. Just saying "Huzbubber made the sprite" works.
hollow shell
They could ping you so that people can see exactly who you are, for instance in case your name changes
plush remnant
Oh hey, thanks, @fervent sky ! I appreciate that.
fervent sky
No problem!
ashen warren
@fervent sky
I love it, it looks like a scale or even wn Eidolist head
ashen warren
Will edit the suggestion once im home and add your thingy
fervent sky
Ok cool
hollow shell
@brazen wedge You know you can edit messages after posting, right?
(Seems like you deleted and reposted a few times)
hollow shell
Alright
fervent sky
@plush remnant here's your sprite! I kind of imagined it as a ghostly looking tome that summons transparent versions of the player, so I modeled it after that
plush remnant
Ayy, that looks really nice! I'll add it now! :3
Also, I see what you did. "Phantome". very clever. xD
fervent sky
@violet tusk I can get your Pinky staff done as well, I'm just gonna be gone for an hour or two and then I'll do it
violet tusk
hollow shell
@subtle turret Did you test your DPS against Super Dummies?
Just looking at the on-hit damage numbers means little to nothing
subtle turret
it was on the goliath, it also take alot longer to kill the goliath with the terratomere then with the terra edge
hollow shell
DPS numbers are still greatly preferred over just saying the damage
subtle turret
well it has a lower dps, i could try to test for exact numbers on a normal dummy because i cant make super dummy without a daredon forge for some reason
hollow shell
Super Dummies have more accurate numbers, and will be affected by Terratomere's homing as well as its and Edge's debuffs
so cheat them in, I guess
it is kinda stupid that they can only be crafted so late in the game
subtle turret
ok brb then
delicate raft
Tbh I thought Terratomere was too OP
ashen warren
@fervent sky
Ehy, would you like to help us with the sprites for our doc?
subtle turret
terratomere has an average dps of 1,500 while terra edge/blade has an average dps of 1400 but the terra edge/blade can pierce enemies so causing it to be vastly more effective for enemies with muliple parts or peons like destroyer, prime, twins, plantera, golem, and Goliath while also healing abit more then terratomere
hollow shell
Terratomere can home, however, and has a slightly greater area of effect
subtle turret
while homing does help if your not accurate with it, if your accruate with the terra edge then it out performs the terratomere in most situatons
subtle turret
so i should add on dps and how the teratomere should have pierce?
hollow shell
Ye
subtle turret
ok i added on to it
hollow shell
Thank ya
subtle turret
bonus, i tested them the pierceing into account by using multiple super dummies on top of each other , the terra edge with pieacing hit for 4k dps while the terratomere could piearce and only hit one for 1.4k dps.
fervent sky
@ashen warren sure! I'll see how much I can done for it. Just DM me what you want sprited
glossy bough
I've got this entire new class; what should I do with it
ashen warren
@fervent sky can i add you to the group we're putting stuff in
glossy bough
Β«Sacrificial ClassΒ»
A class inspired by the Nullification Pistol and heavily influenced by The Binding of Isaac
As Ranged uses ammo and Magic uses mana, Sacrificial uses life. Using a sacrificial weapon stops leeching life at 1 HP. This
doc includes only some weapons and does not include armor sets or accessories. Armor sets and accessories may have abilities like life-leeching or turning a weaponβs life cost into life gain temporarily, an accessory that uses health potions automatically or something that gives a chance for Hearts/Candy Canes/Candy Apples to be generated on enemy hits. Other bonuses may include extra i-frames and healing blood orbs similar to silva and auric orbs. Sacrificial Armor sets, instead of adding normal HP to the maximum, will add βSoul Healthβ, which cannot be leeched by sacrificial weapon usage.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HSU-qLnkoKtWp5nWP1VUIG7xI_idKSzpk7OU28QCI0s/edit?usp=sharing
Is this ok?
fervent sky
@ashen warren is it on Google Drive or Discord? If it's on drive then I can't be added (personal information stuff)
ashen warren
Nay, its a discord
glossy bough
can I, by chance, help as well @ashen warren ?
ashen warren
Of course, we're making a big suggestion for Lunar Events, Cultist and related stuff
glossy bough
ooh hot
fervent sky
Cool! We should probably start a DM so that we don't bother people here though
ashen warren
I dont know how to create a group however, could you?
fervent sky
I'll give it a shot
I think I need to do a friend request to send DMs to you @ashen warren
fervent sky
@violet tusk here's your Pinky Staff! I had a bit of trouble with the slime on it, but I'm proud of the overall design
ashen warren
:o
sick crag
fervent sky
I know there's banding, but in my opinion it fits
(I'm still learning so my sprites aren't 100% supreme, but they can be pretty close)
jovial spire
@fervent sky what do you use to make your sprites?
dense girder
no star on jackeisjohn's suggestion?
i think it's great
i'd love to fight DS and then suddenly the 8bit remix comes on, that'd be awesome
fervent sky
@jovial spire I use GIMP
jovial spire
I'll make sure to check it out, i personally wanna get intonspriting so
fervent sky
Ok
dense girder
oh fuck don't use gimp
use Aseprite or Piskel, the former if you can afford it
aseprite is always your go-to spriting app, it's great
piskel is free and works... okay
I use Pro Motion NG I never sprite tbh, it's paid but you can use a demo version with some good features for free π
@jovial spire
jovial spire
How much is Aseprite?
dense girder
Normally 15$ I think?
But, it's on Steam
And Steam has a sale going on right now
so now it's 11.25$ (for me, at least)
dense girder
π
dense girder
Until January 3rd
rich wagon
its 9:20 for me Β―_(γ)_/Β―
rich wagon
aw....
cyan lagoon
@rich wagon 
lost agate
That should stay tbh
quick ferry
Roughly 10 minutes after it was posted, Danny posted in the announcements. I guess you can say the suggestion was added in?
lost agate
Lol
quasi fable
Something like the crystal wave from thorium?
tulip fulcrum
I guess that could be an option
I wanna say defense, but that i also dunno if it's a good idea
Same for damage
Maybe life regen?
quick ferry
Adding extra health doesn't do anything unless your regen is through the roof or your potions heal more HP than you can hold
That's the main reason blood pact is trash btw, you have more health and take more damage but heal the same amount
ashen warren
@tulip fulcrum for an alienous biome having it be less than 10 and having it being hearts is kind of lackluster
why not having something like a permanent upgrade divided between HP and mana
instead of 25 HP 15 HP and 15 Mana
tulip fulcrum
Ya know it does sound kinda good
ashen warren
Astral revolves around infection and energy
so i'd say any upgrade should be minor, but affect both of them
in fact i have copious half-baked ideas for summon weapons, pets, armor and furniture, but they'r...well, half-baked atm
tulip fulcrum
Oof
An item giving both health and mana sounds possible, i mean, i gues that bit there benefits the mage class
Since the permanent affect of the "astral heartsx would be 15hp and 15 mana, what would the cap be for it then?
dense girder
@orubeon
whoops
@thorn knot elaborate a bit
e.g. upgrades, new color variants, new abilities?
heady comet
This is an epic
dense girder
actually
phasesabers suck
i'll suggest smth for em
@ashen warren You seem to enjoy posting very long suggestions
I love them but my suggestion for you ba dum tss is that you add a little TL;DR at the end
ashen warren
noted
dense girder
so people can see what it is and then if they like it they might read the whole block
faint rivet
Eπ
±ic suggestion with a question mark lol
dense girder
no but he posts mega blocks of text that, frankly, not many people will probably enjoy reading
just so people can get a general idea and then fill in the details
ashen warren
90% of the times when i make a TL:DR it sounds half baked
hollow shell
Christ, GSI at the beginning of Hardmode?
tulip parcel
dude
-I- post huge fucking suggestions
like I get what you're saying
but people will read a good idea
even if it's long
hollow shell
Maybe you should start including TLDRs π
dense girder
vorbis
ashen warren
"The Hindenburg
"Disastrously Fast"
Post-Slime God Wings
Blast in a Balloon + 15 Aerialite Bars + 5 Copper/Tin Bars + 100 Clouds + 50 Rain Clouds + 5 Purified Gel @ Heavy Crafting Bench
A zeppelin strapped to the player's back, akin to the MOAB.
Grants flight, the longest in the game at ten seconds. However, this fight is painfully slow, clocking in at only 15~20 MPH, with sluggish acceleration and turning ability.
Pressing Q causes the player to get an INCREDIBLE boost of speed, clocking in at roughly 75-100 mph. This makes the acceleration and control the player has over their flight increase significantly. However, after a half second of this flight the Hindenburg bursts into flame. This deals ten damage to the player and ends their flight prematurely, causing them to fall to the ground. They still do not take damage on landing.
BFB
"Unstoppable, unpoppable"
Post-Cultist Accessory
The Hindenburg + MOAB + 10 Meld Bars + 3 Cores of Calamity @ Ancient Manipulator.
Combines the effects of the MOAB and The Hindenburg, granting near limitless, slow flight. Jumping will still cause the player to jump as per MOAB's usual function.
The blast effect of the Hindenburg no longer does damage, is now usable three more times in flight, and no longer sets the player's wings aflame after use.
(note: this suggestion is two posts. Special thanks to @ashen warren for helping me greatly in writing all this out!)"
This is only half of a suggestion that got 50+ stars
hollow shell
Why did you repost the entire thing
dense girder
okay definitely put it in a doc if you make one that big next time
ashen warren
To prove the point and because I'm lazy since it's christmas in 'straya
And my keyboard is broke
hollow shell
ok
teal shoal
Gs inferno
hollow shell
That's even weirder thematically but more sensible I guess
ashen warren
im compiling all my lunatic/lunar/Abyss suggestions in a single doc so i dont spam the channel
thorn knot
@dense girder I think the existing colors are good, so more upgrades? maybe new abilities? calamity already has some really interesting items so i'd be interested to see what they could come up with. maybe like, a bouncing, piercing laser fired with every swing?
opal barn
@dense girder phasesabers are already buffed next update btw
dense girder
a rainbow to represent lgbt people!!!!! π³οΈβπ jk
opal barn
And it's in changelogs too
dense girder
I just saw ik
Then I'll hold the suggestion off until later
Wanna see what it is first
thorn knot
i saw that they were already buffed, but i don't know if that involves new recipes 
opal barn
It doesn't involve any new recipes
tulip parcel
Amalgam Cyst
"Ewwww"
"Summons something gross to protect you"
Pre-DoG Summoner Weapon
Slime Staff + Imp Staff + Dank Staff + Corroslime Staff + Deadly Sphere Staff + 5 Bloodstone Cores @ Demon Altar
Slime Staff + Imp Staff + Blood Clot Staff + Crimslime Staff + Deadly Sphere Staff +5 Bloodstone Cores @ Crimson Altar
A swollen, slimy pustule. Mechanical red lenses can be seen looking out from within.
When casted, the Amalgam Cyst summons a slime-demon-monster abomination which floats in the air. It looks pained.
Combines various behaviors of multiple summons:
-Chases after enemies , akin to the dank staff/blood clot staff/deadly sphere staff.
-Rapidly fires fireballs at the closest enemy in sight, in addition to dealing contact damage. Fireballs do not pierce.
-The minion's horizontal movement is slightly slower than other flying summons. However, its vertical movement is much faster.
Tl;Dr: A pre-Yharon summoner weapon that would make summoners in post-moonlord slightly more viable.
waddoyou think of this?
tulip parcel
what
ashen warren
oh nvm you said pre dog
tulip parcel
where does it say post-dog
ashen warren
sorry i misread it 
hearty yew
@dense girder They are significantly buffed. Trust me, it should be enough.
ashen warren
the pinky staff should be stronger
would the speed be able to keep up with dog? just wondering how viable that summon would be in p1/p2, sentinels it sounds fine tho
tulip parcel
Yeah it'd be able to keep up with DoG
It would attempt to reach it the fastest way possible, if that means flying up instead of left or right then it will
ashen warren
so it'd be variety in terms of choosing this vs calamari's lament? Sounds good but it likely would have to be weaker than calamari's since calamari's requires you to go into a post-polter abyss and kill squids, whereas this one you can have everything required the moment polter dies
tulip parcel
yeah tbh it makes sense as "much faster/easier to get weapon"
originally I was going to peg it at post-DoG
but I moved it over
ashen warren
bonus points it will badmouth you all the time
''kid i could guide this kite better and i have no arms ''
wind flicker
yes we need it
keen nebula
make drunk princess reference the princess fish
civic rampart
Make drunk princess give free vodka for a princess fish
unique vector
@lucid marsh what exactly is the purpose for trading this?
delicate raft
Permafrost does ask you to look for his soul
glossy bough
@thorn knot
delicate raft
I guess it makes sense
unique vector
i meant gameplay wise
having it make sense gameplay wise should be prioritized over lore/narrative wise
lunar berry
I swear vorbis
Why do u make the best and funniest suggestions
βIntercontinental Ballistic Mistletoeβ
ashen warren
suggestion idea
add absinthe to drunk princess
would be one of the stronger buffs
but the downside would be larger than usual
civic rampart
Everclear has that
heady comet
lmao yes
lunar berry
ye
quick ferry
Tarragon armor's lore appears only on the helmet because that's the replica of the original helmet Braelor wore. Everything else is just modifications, the same way as exo-weapons are just modifications of Draedon's Exo Blade fit for other classes.
quick ferry
Pretty much
sudden quail
I wouldn't say Ark is an Exo variant. It's Exo-tier and is made from similar materials, sure, but it doesn't have the same palette, and uses way less weapons than usual in its recipe.
quick ferry
The Terrarian just saw the legendary sord and made it into another sord, a book and a flamethrower
I mistook AotC for Augur of the Elements or whatever, my bad
So idk about Ark being an exo weapon
earnest raptor
Calamity's Lore Statues
Statues of Yharim, SCal as human, Braelor, Statis, Xeroc, Ataxia, Daedalus, Reaver.
ashen warren
suggest that
earnest raptor
Nerf Terra Blade/Edge
On pre-Plant and post-Mech these weapons are insanely powerful. 157 base damage, 2.5x higher, that other swords on same tier.
Variants:
- Lock these weapon after Plantera, give to their recipes a Living Shards. This makes consistency with other Terra-weapons, which also crafts from LS.
- Reducing damage back to ~90.
Are good?
cyan lagoon
Terra blade was buffed for a reason
Terra edge was indirectly nerfed via all around lifesteal nerf
earnest raptor
Ark of Elements have 20% less base damage, lul.
Post-Mech weapon, was powerful as post-ML...
opal barn
Funfact, base damage doesn't matter
earnest raptor
Yeah.
But most swords have around 50-80 damage.
On there tier.
Terra Blade - 157 (!!!)
With same use time!
earnest raptor
@tulip parcel ?
tulip parcel
Hey
round falcon
Terra blade has a cooldown on its projectile. Why nerf the entire weapon.
earnest raptor
@round falcon because insane base damage.
round falcon
base damage doesn't matter 
other weapons have lower damage because of their projectile spam/true melee capabilities
i.e. Terra Edge
earnest raptor
Terra Edge doesn't have cooldown and have 150 damage.
Insane.
150 base on post-Mechs.
round falcon
Though I do have an idea to keep people off the Edge.
How about instead making the terra edge craftable with living shards.
Keep TB where it's at.
round falcon
I agree with that tbh.
night cradle
I mean, I've killed Plantera with Terra Shiv on my first attempt, so I guess it makes sense.
ashen warren
i added a TL;DR at the start woowe
teal shoal
yea nerf those
so we all embrace fetids meta
where fuckin melee gets 4 gloves, either cross necklace or star veil and jumps into plantera and holds left
and kills her in 10 seconds
because any other way of killing her takes eternity
yea i'd pass
ashen warren
lmao
lost agate
Remember that true oathsword isnt pre plantera next update
lost agate
Yes
ashen warren
enlighten me
lost agate
Its gonna need living shards
ashen warren
fuck
tired haven
Shhhhhh
near crown
Spitballing: What if DoG dropped its head, and said head, when combined with spices makes a food item that lets you devour your enemy whole (insane life leech in true melee only)
made at a cooking pot
jovial spire
Its head and the head 
near crown
A cosmolite cooking pot if you think that normal cookware is unworthy of the DoG
sleek wadi
Talking about the other head or 2
sleek wigeon
not understanding the sentance
near crown
DoG die. DoG drop head as item. Cook Head at a cooking pot to make it soup. Drink soup, leech life in true melee
I mean, people IRL make cow head soups and goat head soups, to say nothing of fish head curry
It seems reasonable no?
hollow shell
@sacred thorn
You're either running a very outdated version of the mod or simply misinformed
Or maybe
I can check the frickin source
and see that the wiki is outdated
Either way, Avenger Emblem is 12%, not 15%
@ruby cobalt erm
uhh
@tepid wadi erm
alpine garnet
We have a brainlet 
cyan lagoon
@north sedge no
alpine garnet
Ay cobalion 
ruby cobalt
oho where
alpine garnet
It's gone
ruby cobalt
is it the same brainlet from #calamity-mod-talk
hushed prawn
yes
alpine garnet
Idk i haven't been on this discord much today 
ruby cobalt
aye I'm elevating it to a mute
alpine garnet
Ty brainlet 
gritty kiln
I think it was the class emblems he mentioned giving you a 15% damage boost, not the Avenger Emblem
hollow shell
Ah
tropic yoke
Who's with me?
lost agate
Profaned slime?
tropic yoke
yeah.
lost agate
Why?
lost agate
....thats basically hell
tropic yoke
:D
Well, another spawn then
calamity should expand on the small things they already have, like the abyss (pretty big but could still be expanded) and the profaned enemies and items.
tropic yoke
I feel like it grazes over a lot of really cool ideas.
tropic yoke
loot
lost agate
Which is
glossy bough
Max HP -> Damage Buffs
tropic yoke
too big for a razor, too.
make it like... the size of a bar.
give it a darker palette.
uh oh, I've went critique mode.
glossy bough
I was joking 
tropic yoke
._.
lost agate
1: geodes would make this enemy be post provi
2: unholy essences are the reason unholy enemies exist
3: then make everything else drop profaned rocks too
4: a profaned slime staff? Just so it cant reach whatever youre trying to hit?
tropic yoke
what's 4 mean? Also, there's a ton of enemy-modifications with boss deaths.
2 makes sense for the slime, and 3 would be really neat.
lost agate
A slime minion wouldnt hit anything
tropic yoke
lazerz
Profaned enemies have a ton of projectiles in their arsenal.
It could be a sentry even.
tropic yoke
have it fly like all the other slimes.
ashen warren
I mean, there's a profaned enemy that charges at you
lost agate
... they only fly when you get far away
tropic yoke
well, you can recode.
lost agate
For just a staff?
tropic yoke
I've seen it in calamity before, I believe in the devs.
lost agate
Change yet more vanilla code?
tropic yoke
XD
lost agate
Also, it makes no sense to add a slime lore-wise iirc
tropic yoke
Crabulon, Cryogen, Calamitas, Signus, and the ceaseless void are the only bosses that use code not like vanilla bosses.
lost agate
Wdym?
tropic yoke
ooh lol forgot the boss we were talking about.
cyan lagoon
including signus but not brimstone elemental
tropic yoke
XD
cyan lagoon
lost agate
Perforator hive?
lost agate
The hive isnt a worm
ashen warren
Yeah but the hive isnt
tropic yoke
It's a non-spinning crimson Skeletron.
cyan lagoon
Levi, Siren, Devourer of Gods (the worm boss excuse is jack shit here since its ai is entirely unique), Supreme Calamitas(?)
lost agate
A non spining skeletron.....
tropic yoke
ok, I forgot a bunch. We get it.
ashen warren
Yharon uses a lot of fishron but is still pretty uniwue
lost agate
Polterghast behaves differently to plant
ashen warren
Eh
tropic yoke
no too much.
ashen warren
Polter is pretty similar
tropic yoke
most of the bosses have vanilla parallels.
There
Can't be specific without starting a storm.
ashen warren
Paralells yeah
lost agate
Anyway, profaned slime is a no no for me
Mainly for the reason it doesnt sound entrusting
Any slime enemy at that point is like "oh shoot, i killed it by accident"
Only corrosive slime is a minimal threath because of the high contact damage
cyan lagoon
doesn't help anything
lost agate
A punching bag smh
ashen warren
Anyway lets just end this
lost agate
How much of a buff is happening, thats the question
ashen warren
i reported it to pinkie with proof that they get 3k dps, he did his own testing to confirm and the buff will make them on par with other stuff at that tier iirc
cyan lagoon
@hollow shell wait, about that most recent suggestion you starred
cyan lagoon
isn't it the "Adult eidolon wyrm plays Threats when hostile"
but instead uh its whenever its spawned
hollow shell
Yeah?
teal shoal
buffing ele axes thats something for me
cyan lagoon
And about that, it should have the β , no?
hollow shell
What were you implying before?
cyan lagoon
It's pretty much a suggestion that was already sent but with a differentiation
a very slight differentiation might i add
hollow shell
Were you not already talking about blue checking it? . _.
lost agate
Wait a minute.
What about cosmilamps?
tropic yoke
Make it shoot lasers and spawn a whole lot.
cyan lagoon
blegh
lost agate
Cosmilamps were bad too right?