And immunity to horror is better gotten with laudanum
#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
Because the first half is easy?
glossy bough
yes
boss suggestions arent accepted
ashen warren
Yes but bandwagoning isn't necessary
sleek wigeon
If it was said by a mod, why werent the messages deleted?
ashen warren
Because boss suggestions won't be accepted but are apparently not rule-breaking
Even though it's in a pin that says "suggestion rules"
sleek wigeon
At the very least delete the side message, the whole "i have an idea for a boss"
vale basin
what message in the pins do you want me to look at
sleek wigeon
All of them
ashen warren
Yea that one confuses me
Pins are important
Read all of them
Except for like, general
sleek wigeon
Read all of them for both here and #suggestions-voting
radiant pawn
the one that speaks about bosses is the second one
sleek wigeon
General's pins are also very important tbh
vale basin
did it
sleek wigeon
Have you seen penny's art? super important stuff
vale basin
just found out how to delete
mystic glade
when i read that post from swag it sounds more like lore than a suggestion
ashen warren
Yea just post it in the calamity art server #literature channel 
mystic glade
im not in the art server
mystic glade
oh sorry
vale basin
i thought it would give a good idea of what it is
mystic glade
so pretty much you saying that this would be a change to the lore
cause it would make sense imo if after Calamitas
vale basin
the clone?
ashen warren
Saying calamitas implies the clone
vale basin
witch calamitas
ashen warren
Saying scal implies the real deal
vale basin
theres two
ashen warren
S for supreme and cal for calamitas
vale basin
its probably not getting accepted. I just came up with idea a couple days ago
alpine copper
Add a megalodon to the abyss for absolutely no reason
mystic glade
boss suggestions will never be accepted
but also this one not starred cause doesnt have detail
alpine copper
Only changes to existing bosses are accepted as far as i remember
mystic glade
like what are you adding
lore, an enemy, etc etc
vale basin
sounds Like "The Meg"
ashen warren
If you want to die I ain't stopping you, just don't make it toggleable with visibilty
low remnant
..it's an armour set tho
vale basin
Terraria dosen't allow mods to add mobile or console content on to the computer
ashen warren
I believe that restriction was lifted, however I don't think adding console content is a good idea because it's really bad
low remnant
^
radiant pawn
um
low remnant
the mobile-exclusives are still not permitted
vale basin
orcram wasnt't even a good boss
low remnant
true dat
radiant pawn
summed up, you want a toggleable silva bonus/buff. so when you are close to dying
you activate it
survive the damage
and deactivate it
right?
low remnant
yeah, but the debuff would last for something like 5 minutes
so it's not a one-off thing - like the current bonus
radiant pawn
5 minutes of not surviving fatal damage?
low remnant
no
radiant pawn
wait fuck i wrote wrong
low remnant
five minutes where it's possible for that effect to happen
think of it like wearing the current Silva set for 5 minutes, then swapping
radiant pawn
in between those 5 minutes
vale basin
its like saying you want to increase potion sickness time
low remnant
so, the 'normal' bonus is surviving fatal damage, yada yada, 10 seconds after that you're immune, yada yada, if you take fatal damage inside that immunity you lose max hp
so that would only occur when the hotkey was pressed
not the immunity itself, the effect where you can survive fatal damage, yada yada
radiant pawn
ooh
now i understand
its a pretty cool idea now that i see what you meant
uhm sorry for not understanding
low remnant
all good
radiant pawn
it can sound as a nerf in some cases, but its a cool suggestion
ashen warren
It means you need to activate it however you can use it more than once per life if I'm reading this correctly
low remnant
yeah
vale basin
just use the god slayer armor
low remnant
so it's a debuff where you can survive the damage but can also lose maximum hp
that way, the max hp reduction can be lifted after a set amount of time
especially useful for Hardcore players (not suggesting you go through that pain though)
ashen warren
Use it and the silva thing works then if you get hit down to 1 hp then you get the max hp as a debuff and you can no longer use the silva revive thing
Then after 5 minutes your max health goes back up and you can use it again
vale basin
that would be a good accessory
ashen warren
It rewards skillful play
lunar berry
...
vale basin
like expert mode
lunar berry
do you know how armors work
low remnant
I think I made this complicated enough
ashen warren
And swag, you can't "just use godslayer" because auric tesla has silva built in
low remnant
that was the main selling point of my suggestion lol
radiant pawn
like i said, its a really neat idea, though in some cases it sounds like a nerf. because you can use it more than once. and the silva invulnerability is quite strong if used correctly
lunar berry
@low remnant an idea: Separate helmets, one gives the max hp invulnerability thing, another does something else
vale basin
unnecessary nerf
low remnant
@lunar berry that means there are 10 helmets for the one set
lunar berry
huh?
ashen warren
It isn't a nerf unless you're bad smh
lunar berry
u mean auric tesla right
lunar berry
hmm
ashen warren
smh
radiant pawn
one helmet gives you 1000% damage but you recieve 100% more damage
low remnant
I think just reworking the current bonus would work enough
as in my suggestion
this is getting too complicated lul
radiant pawn
i t j u s t w o r k s
vale basin
radiant pawn
ow my master hand suggestion got 3 green ticks
and the one posted after mine got like 26 blue ticks
lunar berry
oOF
blue ticks means it’s already been suggested before
so that means your suggestion is the better one
radiant pawn
isnt it that it was already accepted by the devs?
lunar berry
since it got green ticks, which means it was sent to the dev server and a dev starred it
yes it is
ashen warren
Accepted is the flag
lunar berry
so if you repost your suggestion or someone else does, it will have blue ticks instead of green ticks
radiant pawn
oh
lunar berry
i think meld blobs are going to be added to aureus’ drop pool since it’s like a throwing fragment now
not all class anymore
radiant pawn
you mean post ml aureus?
lunar berry
ye
radiant pawn
an instakill aracnid monster gives you free xeroc
nice
actually @ashen warren you just had bad luck
slime gods appear really far from you
radiant pawn
ye
ashen warren
I know they spawn randomly and shit
but I think there should be a way they don't just, SPAWN, right on top of ya
radiant pawn
they can spawn in funny places from my experience 
radiant pawn
i see your point
ashen warren
it's happened to me several times
lunar berry
and yea they spawn randomly
lunar berry
then dash away
radiant pawn
though the spawn is rng, there's no way that the spawn point can be separated from your stand point if im correct
ashen warren
well if they spawn randomly, and if I dash, what's not to say they won't spawn right next to me
ah
radiant pawn
just go down inmediately
ashen warren
I'm just being salty I'll stop
unique vector
@radiant pawn ngl half of luminite is kinda gay
i would prefer slightly over hlaf
half*
maybe 3/5 or something closer to that
unique vector
luminite is an important resource
lunar berry
^
unique vector
then again, that conflicts with my logical side
due to aureus not being related to moon species as well as him becoming a huge farming tool
i would really split the luminite into a different buffed boss but then thats too much work for devs
unique vector
ashen warren
deus could be buffed and drop luminite
ashen warren
at least this time people can't just melt the poor worms with brackish flask 
radiant pawn
and that body expansion he got isnt in my taste of buff 
mystic glade
Technically Aurues a little connected to Moon bc came by the stars so at least similar to Moon
unique vector
thats like saying fishron and levi are connected
round falcon
very minimally
jovial spire
Their both live in water 
round falcon
then technically you could also relate Aqu. Sco to them
jovial spire
They also both have gills. Conisidene? I think not
worthy fiber
Luminite suggestions are never going to work tbh
jovial spire
Yeah bc therw still celestial sigil
Which you can make 20 of after a astrum aurius kill
Just make the spawn time reduced on the Sigil
vestal elbow
or get fargo
low remnant
I did not know this
sleek wigeon
Nah thats a suggestion. Im not sure if thats actually a thing
elder kestrel
@frosty kindle du du du du, add stars to the suggestions which need em
frosty kindle
mmyes
elder kestrel
Oh right I forgot cool dudes can add them too shit
Anyway, I like that idea vorbis
vale basin
everybody brainstorm ideas
round walrus
Uh
A potion that increases the amount of health/mana gained from the pickups, maybe by 50% Crafted from a Lifeforce and Heart Reach potion?
hollow shell
Thats a neat idea
round walrus
To go along with the massively increased health and mana
Someone else feel free to use that in a potions idea suggestion. I don't know much about balancing to make that fit in.
I've only gotten as far as cultist, so... 
frail mantle
I approve
vale basin
great but what about an even harder death mode
jovial spire
So DAD mode
frail mantle
That will be up to the devs
jovial spire
Death mode is already hard enough
frail mantle
Death<Revengeance
vale basin
how about an easy mode . like easier than normal
frail mantle
Revengeance is pretty fun even though it’s hard, death is just 
jovial spire
Normal is easy enough for noobs
frail mantle
Normal is 2 ez for me
jovial spire
I dont thonk you undwrstand Calamity is supposed to be hard
frail mantle
Noob mode: everything does 1 damage, even SCal, DGs and Adult Wyrms
vale basin
no you could have conservations with them
delicate raft
That mode was suggested before.
vale basin
really!
delicate raft
Didn't get in.
vale basin
its so stupid sounding
jovial spire
After you defeat them in combat they're gonna become town npcs anyways
frail mantle
Nerf normal mode King Slime
jovial spire
Draedon, Calamitas, and Yharim
delicate raft
Draedon too?
vale basin
nerf expert skelotron
frail mantle
Nerf normal mode blue slime
jovial spire
Yeah
Hes only like 8ft tall
Well more lioe 8 1/2
Hes big but like to too big
He could total fit in a house
I meam he'd havw to duxk throug door
frail mantle
That grammar was very yes
vale basin
im preparing to nohit all death mode bosses and im not kidding
delicate raft
Good luck
jovial spire
Im on mobile ok
frail mantle
You’ll need it
delicate raft
Remember to record all that
neon roost
@vale basin is it even possible to make the game harder than normal mode
expert in vanilla isn’t even enough tbh
round walrus
You mean easier?
earnest raptor
Terra Nightmare
Spell tome, post-Golem
Uses 22 mana
Launches super-fast lime projectile, which on contact with tiles or bosses explodes into a 20-50 crystal shards, which deal 8% of initial damage. Inflicts Ichor to 30 seconds.
Craft: Shadecrystal Barrage + Everglade Spray + Forbidden Sun + 8 Living Shard @ Mythril Anvil
Which needs to change?
round walrus
Maybe craft it at the manipulator? Besides that, I'm curious and I like it so far!
mystic glade
the auric transmitter has 95 stars and still no checkmark on it
mystic glade
from what it looks like hasnt even been sent in yet
round walrus
Oh! Huh
cyan lagoon
just sent ones over 50 ⭐ 's to dev
quasi fable
🍮
ashen warren
Thanks 💖
hollow shell
Nice nice
frail mantle
In the next update the Royal Gel will affect Calamity slimes as well iirc
hollow shell
Nope, not in Changelogs
frail mantle
Oh
ashen warren
imagine giving misinformation
frail mantle
I think it has been sent in before but idk tho
placid perch
Communication Tower
Furniture 3x wide and 8x high
Made @ Hardmode Forge w/ 40 Martian Conduit Plating, 80 Wire, 30 Nanites, 40 Silver or Tungsten Bar, 1 Lihzard Altar
Acts like the Lihzard Alter, as it is placed and needs another item to use it, that item being the Martian Super Battery.
It looks like a big radio tower that is hooked up to a Lhizard Altar at the base of it. Once a Martian Super Battery is used on it, the Martian Madness event starts. It also functions just as the Lihzard Altar and can summon Golem too.
Martian Super Battery
Made at Hardmode Forge w/ 1 Lihzard Power Cell, 10 Nanites, 20 Wire, 2 Martian Conduit Plating, 1 Solar Tablet Fragment.
I think that this would add a bit variation to the way events and bosses are summoned, and Golem's way of spawning is quite cool in my opinion.
untold gulch
good idea
how about another thing to use on the communication tower to manually spawn martial saucers
placid perch
Maybe it could have its own normal spawn thing, but thats a good idea too
Direct Comn Device
Summons a Martain Saucer
Made @ Hardmode Forge w/ 15 Martian Conduit Plating, 3 Martian Super Battery, 20 Wire.
Summons a buffed Martian Saucer, to make up for the fact that it is just the boss, as it doesn't include the Martian Madness.
Now it can also summon Golem since it takes a Lihzard Altar.
frail mantle
i approve
untold gulch
same
frail mantle
you should put it in #suggestions-voting now tbh
placid perch
Done
round walrus
I'm thinking of refining an earlier idea I had
Reclamation potion:
More use for the fallen
Made @ Alchemy table with a Lifeforce potion and a Heart Reach potion.
Increases health and mana gained from their respective pickups by 50% to go with the increased health and mana, as well as having the Lifeforce potion and heart reach effects.
round falcon
I'd say add bonus mana reach but the only people who really need mana are using Cuffs/Talisman anyways
vale basin
give my calamitas NPC a star. Its going to be awesome
ruby cobalt
I can give you a delete.
vale basin
thats not a good thing
vale basin
more just trying to get people to know about it
tulip fulcrum
Don't worry, they'll go ahead and scroll up to see what they think is the best suggestions
Also, you're not the only who asked for a calamitas npc
frail mantle
both asking for stars and starring your own suggestions are allowed, but frowned upon
especially begging for stars
vale basin
improved my idea.
frail mantle
hmmm
it does indeed sound interesting, but i don't think it will be necessary to give the items a new sprite every time she enchants it
round falcon
While it is certainly interesting, the only reason I'm not starring it is because despite it only taking a few seconds to do so, i am extremely lazy
vale basin
a sprite that you want. not random. and it would be the same for her enchantments.
round falcon
maybe it could work more like Spirit's Glyphs?
in which case it's already been done
elder kestrel
That would be really tough to pull off
And changing the sprites of weapons/armours is really tedious and not really worth it in the end
vale basin
how about using existing projectiles from enemies and bosses
elder kestrel
Still pointless ngl
It's a good idea, but the execution youre going for is kinda bad
vale basin
your character would have its model changed to that specific creature that you want to be. dosen't need to show the armor and different creatures would have different abilities like being a bat can make you fly without wings so you could put something else in that slot or being a chaos elemental lets you use the rod of discord as much as you want without taking damage
elder kestrel
Thats unbalanced as fuck
vale basin
it is at the end of the game and there is plenty of unbalanced weapons in calamity that can be obtained way before supreme calamitas
elder kestrel
They are balanced though 
vale basin
this would also be a fun mechanic too
unique vector
plus end game content is very indefinite
due to the planning of additional content
radiant meadow
boss rush?
elder kestrel
Powerful doesn't really mean unbalanced
unique vector
~~looks at halibut memes ~~
elder kestrel
It could be a powerful weapon yes, but doesn't completely break everything
unique vector
pre-nerf
radiant meadow
some stuff is powerful for its tier but it isn't game breaking
vale basin
no they are not all balanced.
unique vector
name one, swag
elder kestrel
Your suggestion is pretty broken, especially teleporting without any repercussions
radiant meadow
chaos stateless rod is very unbalanced
unique vector
theres a difference from “this weapon is really powerful, it shouldnt be used for this tier!” and “lets remove all negative effects bc cool”
elder kestrel
And you know what, you could be right, there could be unbalanced weapons
unique vector
which isn’t clear to some people unless you are experienced in game development or just a variety of gameplay i assume
elder kestrel
That doesn't really justify having a broken suggestion
vale basin
drews wings all of the legendarys besides the blossoms flux
unique vector
i was referring to how some ppl dont recognize how balancing works
radiant meadow
drew's wings aren't broken at all 
unique vector
legendaries
elder kestrel
That's like killing someone and saying "he killed people too, if he can kill others I can as well"
radiant meadow
and most legendaries aren't that broken
unique vector
most legendaries are only good for 1-2 tiers
vale basin
a bunch of revengeance drops
unique vector
slightly better than normal weapons, but not anything really noticeable
radiant meadow
shpc and blossom flux are definitely the better ones being a tier or 2 higher but that's pretty much it
unique vector
besides cosmic discharge but thats a slight exception
rev drops are meant to be powerful bc its rev
radiant meadow
cosmic discharge is pretty bad tbh except maybe events
elder kestrel
My man
I'll say it again
Just because other shit isn't balanced, that doesn't make your unbalanced suggestion good
unique vector
they dont break anything
radiant meadow
and not all rev exclusive stuff is ultra powerful
vale basin
cosmic discharge
unique vector
legendary
unique vector
really piss poor for bosses
^
plus, you also should really consider the very minimal drop rate of legendaries before saying they are “broken”
damage doesnt mean everything
sure, drop rates dont add much but its still a consideration
elder kestrel
Yo pixl just a heads up, then bein rate doesn't justify inbalance
hexed hedge
Cosmic discharge is only really good for the events, which you slaughter somewhat equally with weapons you’d have by that point
elder kestrel
I'm not saying they're unbalanced just saying that argument doesn't really work
vale basin
its also about how powerful they are when you get them and only begin to feel like a normal weapon by supreme calamitas
unique vector
@elder kestrel i know that, but its better to have legendaries at a 1% drop rate than a 75% drop rate as an example
elder kestrel
True
unique vector
normal weapon?
vale basin
so they can be in the same catagory as my idea.
radiant meadow
that sounds like a meme nohit
elder kestrel
unique vector
big one
also swag
let me give you an analogy
if a guy sells a bunch of cupcakes overpriced
lets say, $50 for one
vale basin
thats an exeption but the aegis blade cosmic discharge briney baron are powerful as hell
unique vector
and you were planning to sell cupcakes, would you sell them at $50 too just bc someone else was doing it?
if you like complaining about “unbalanced” items so much, suggest to balance them before going “hey these exist so i can add even more unbalanced content right”
elder kestrel
Basically what I'm trying to say, just cause the mod has unbalanced shit doesn't justify your unbalanced suggestion
vale basin
you would sell them for more than 50 dollars
vale basin
what if we made obbtaining the more powerful morphs really hard
unique vector
would making legends drop at a 0.001% make them any less broken?
elder kestrel
Yea that basically
vale basin
no
elder kestrel
You get them eventually and you completely break the game
unique vector
so i say no as well
elder kestrel
It's why the original legendries were nerfed
They were omni rare but once you got them, it completely broke the game
You could finish a run with one weapon only, they were that broken
vale basin
but a majority of people chose not to use them
radiant meadow
like everyone used them iirc
unique vector
dont claim a certain number of people did something unless you have factual information backing up such claim
vale basin
i usual only us them to speed up farming not for fighting bosses before you beaten them a couple times
vale basin
youtubers
unique vector
youtubers are not the hundreds of other people that play the game as well
hexed hedge
You tubers are like 6 people
unique vector
or mod, rather
hexed hedge
Compare that to the 7k+ people on this server
elder kestrel
25k+
vale basin
but people usually do the same thing as famous people famous people
elder kestrel
Not really
unique vector
again, another assumptious claim
vale basin
do you play fortnite
unique vector
not to mention a stereotypical one at that
elder kestrel
Wh
unique vector
no, but im assuming you will use that game as an example to prove your case
which i will counteract by saying that what people do in one game does not dictate the actions of people reacting to famous people playing other games
whether or not such thing happen in fortnite, i can't say
but that isn't really the point
radiant meadow
I think it's best that we drop this.
If swag's suggestion gets sent, the devs will balance it tbh.
vale basin
if you do you probably want to be good like Ninga so your going to adopt the same strategies
elder kestrel
Fortnite doesn't really have as much variety as terraria though so
hexed hedge
unique vector
swag, reread what i said
elder kestrel
Completely different games n shiz
unique vector
before i make a written record of ignorant brains
vale basin
terraria is way better but you will see it in a bunch of games
people will use a specific.character because this celebrity likes using him
but ya you are right
its definitly overpowered
think of more minor buffs like gills or inflicting the plague
vale basin
gills isnt that useful
unique vector
act like that to people, even if they make dumb comments
round walrus
"No offense" then you actually called him mentally retarded.
vale basin
drrrr
unique vector
and sentence break
lunar berry
shhh
vale basin
lunar berry
you never saw anything
‘oh yea cool the green slime i killed dropped a cosmic discharge’
lmao
unique vector
mk
teal shoal
vale basin
lunar berry
rEeEe
unique vector
get out of suggestions now
teal shoal
ye
unique vector
b4 we all get beaned
lunar berry
ya never saw anything bois
radiant meadow
hollow shell
I'm concerned
vale basin
yo whats up
wet bolt
Ohwell
vale basin
elder kestrel
(Kinda getting off-topic now ngl)
ashen warren
What the fuck did I read
vale basin
fuck is right
ashen warren
I need to lay off the ginger ale
vale basin
that was AIDS that found itself on a computer
ashen warren
"Youtubers won't abuse something overpowered therefore people in general won't abuse it"
My head is spinning <.>
vale basin
that swag is sure something
fervent zealot
what was your suggestion
vale basin
a calamitas NPC
fervent zealot
lame and bad
ashen warren
Gottim
vale basin
i think everyone in that chat including me was on something
frail mantle
Iirc it was because they thought your idea was op
ashen warren
That grammar though
people usually do the same thing as famous people famous people
owie
my bones
frail mantle
Did you drink bone hurting juice again
ashen warren
That grammar is like eye droplets of bone hurting juice
The only problem is divine geodes aren't really used for too many things, so fighting Prov 2-3 times is fine. But to get enough cosmilite bars for everything you want, you need to farm DoG way too many times, so that's why I agree the post-DoG sentinel buff is alright, since it can be absurd farming him even over 3 times just getting every desired thing you want. Just my opinion though. I didn't need to farm the Prov much at all. Like, twice probably
Sounds reasonable, I just thought it was a logical extension of his idea
Of course, I understand where it was coming from in that sense
frail mantle
Maybe instead of Geodes from post-Prov Guardians, Soul Fragments from post- Yharon Bumblefucks
ashen warren
That would make sense
fervent zealot
why not all three though
ashen warren
All 3 would be fine too
fervent zealot
geodes may not be useful but this would open them up to a whole world of new possibilities and actual uses for them
like being included in every post prov recipe like cosmilite is tbh
ashen warren
Here I'm surprised barely anyone has mentioned luminite since it's used about as much as cosmilite
I think someone did today
It would be nice if there were a way to get all the boss-drops you need without farming lore bosses
Hence "barely"
People mention luminite every single day
Nope, yesterday
vale basin
sometimes i act that I have full blown dyslexia and other times im a genius and thats not a joke
ashen warren
It seems obvious that the devs aren't gonna add it
Really? I don't see it very often in there, and I read every suggestion, lol. Unless you were just exaggerating
Quite minor hyperbole
I've seen suggestions related to luminite at least 20 times
And stuff related to drops and drop rate increases around 3-5ish
I do think luminite is more important for post-lesser farming though than divine geodes or soul fragments since luminite stuff is used for base crafting ingredients for countless things, whereas the other ones are only used to complete those chains, which means you don't need much if you're only developing a single class
You only need around 25-30ish bars iirc for weapons
Then ML becomes a piece of cake and you can grab armor
I'm saying for like, weapons developing onto weapons. I'm not talking about a perspective of a pro who knows how to do everything. Newer people probably want to know what every single weapon is capable of doing so that they can have the best idea as for what to use
vale basin
Im actually going to start the Death mode nohit challenge in about week
ashen warren
That's why I said 25-30 bars
It's normally 5 for a wep
Which totals to far more than 25-30. I had to use like 80 for just melee
Swag: Wrong channel go here > #calamity-mod-talk
More like #help-advice-read-pins
Gottim
round walrus
Gottem
ashen warren
So, you got me curious milkyway and I decided to have a quick glance at the wiki and what I found was quite interesting.
Note: this is for weapons only as they are the most efficient way that I know of to farm ML
Luminite costs: 83 - melee including grax, 71 - melee excluding grax, 55 - ranged, 35 - magic, 5 - summoner and 5 - throwing
Notice the problem?
ashen warren
Xeroc pitchforks are throwing providence killer and yet they aren't post-ml
lost agate
guess thats why they getting nerfed
ashen warren
rly?
lost agate
yeh
ashen warren
they're getting nerfed because they're stupid in terms of the dps they can get
20k+ on a boss you normally shouldn't reach over 12k w/o sequence breaking?
@lost agate i'm about xeroc pitchforks
ashen warren
My only problem with the xeroc nerf is that throwing has only 1 other weapon that could be considered good
they'll still get reasonable dps, it just won't be stupid dps
lost agate
so, not only do we lack post golem throwing shit but we basically only got one weapon for early post ML 
ashen warren
and throwing is my favorite class too
lost agate
yeh, throwing is like a roller coaster of viableness
ashen warren
maybe one of the patrons'll add some throwing weps
lost agate
hopefully
ashen warren
i know ben's adding one as a beenade upgrade post pbg
lost agate
hell yus
ashen warren
Plaguenades are being added?!
as a patron item ye, but i dunno when ben's one will be added
since the patron items are being added in order, and idk where ben is in that order
frail mantle
If throwing is a roller coaster of viableness, what is summoner then
ashen warren
Masochism simulator
next patch? good. This patch? Pain and suffering until worm and chickens
lost agate
that sounds like something a farmer would say lol
glossy bough
plaguenades?
vale basin
who thinks that an upgrade to The Wand should be combined with plague canisters and there for would become plaguenadoes
topaz flint
you get plaque canisters long before The Wand
ashen warren
The words "upgrade to The Wand" are just... no
vale basin
ya lets not repeat what happened earlier
glossy bough
@violet tusk what mode do you play?
violet tusk
rev
vale basin
wow you cant defeat the mech bosses
violet tusk
I am actually gonna add a few differences
glossy bough
then you should have access to couter scarf...?
violet tusk
I use counter scarf
glossy bough
then just S-Dash
fervent zealot
uhh, no
ashen warren
all of those bosses are easily dealt with, if you have good movement
fervent zealot
you don't need to speed nerf bosses
marsh gust
honestly, if you use RoD for skelebutt prime and twins, its more than enough space
vale basin
there not even that fast
ashen warren
you don't even need rod to deal with them
marsh gust
meanwhile for skeletron prime hooks are a saviour
fervent zealot
bosses have high speed to ENCOURAGE you to learn how to dodge
glossy bough
ducks kinda kill skele prime tbh
marsh gust
thats why i said 'more than enough space'
violet tusk
Hooks are godly
I killed skeletron prime with a bit of difficulty
didn't kill twins
they were both on around 5000 hp
marsh gust
umm no.. destroyer is, given enough space
violet tusk
marsh gust
twins requires least arena preperation imo
violet tusk
@marsh gust correct
glossy bough
Nobody wants to actually make a platform that long though
ashen warren
twins are easier than destroyer, if you don't use walking strat 
marsh gust
walking strat is uh.. meta 
glossy bough
Use mimic hook
marsh gust
bat hook is fastest and by far the best for mobility
violet tusk
(I use bat hook for higher velocity)
glossy bough
hrm
violet tusk
again @marsh gust is correct
marsh gust
anyways, for skeletron you could just use hooks to circle it easily
violet tusk
ima move to #help-advice-read-pins before a mod comes in here and kicks my 
marsh gust
skeletron prime's hands despawn too easily when you get too far, it needs a buff instead of a nerf by making it not despawn
vale basin
if you want to have a game or mod make a mode that is exposed to be hard don't ask for an update to make it easier unless its necessary. your just not ready for revengance mode and play expert mode instead so you can get prepared for revengance
glossy bough
lel shield is better than scarf
vale basin
who thinks that an accessory that makes you grow or shrink is a good idea.
frail mantle
Sounds interesting, but I don’t know what it could be useful for
ashen warren
maybe fit into 1 block spaces?
or block off areas to make enemies not get through and fight from that spot?
also will increase placement range if bigger for blocks etc.
vale basin
when your small you can fit in 1 block spaces but do less damage and be better at not getting if your big you do more damage but can not fit in spaces you normaly could and you would get hit easier
ashen warren
Maybe it could do stuff to your stats, but a lot of it would have compensations. So like maybe higher defense and damage if you're large, but much slower movement speed
And not able to fly properly
sudden quail
Thorium does the growth-shrink thing pretty well with its transformations
vale basin
my compensation is that when your big you cant fit in spaces you normally could plus you get hit easier especially by projectiles.
vale basin
mabye morphs too but a lot more of them
imagine being a shark
no powerful buffs for morphs like infinite flight
but you actually are a creature
glossy bough
technically being able to grow/shrink would change your hitbox size
vale basin
what would you want added to my idea
vale basin
thorium has a deep ocean biome too but calamity did it better
it would be the same case here
sleek wigeon
i dont think your supposed to outrun the bosses
I think you're supposed to dodge them
frail mantle
There’s a reason El Grande Doggo and Yharon adjust to your speed
ashen warren
I played Expert vanilla up to almost golem saw this mod and wanted the QoL stuff past ML.
Like wings+ boots
And I figured I can do Rev.
But death is just probably going to be a pain.
But yeah go suggest your size changing thing swag sounds very cool and fun.
sleek wigeon
wings + boots isnt really "qol"
ashen warren
It does save me a slot I wish I could save in vanilla.
unique vector
just get wingslot?
ashen warren
I did. I don't tend to play this to be good at it anyways
also not really an elitist anyways.
tulip parcel
ooh, spring board reached 50
ashen warren
@vale basin don't forget an added benefit of increased tile placement range for big size and less for small.
tulip parcel
yeet
ashen warren
add a non combat use as well.
say +3 for big - 3 for small?
And can stack with vanilla accessories for tile placement and boosted placement ranges for chains, ropes, etc?
vale basin
just did
ashen warren
as it only makes sense you can reach further if bigger.
fervent vortex
What arrows should I use for Phangasm wooden arrows or like blood or something.
earnest raptor
Terramare
Spell tome, post-Golem
Uses 22 mana
Average speed
Launches super-fast lime projectile, which on contact with tiles or bosses explodes into a 20-50 crystal shards, which deal 8% of initial damage. Inflicts Ichor to 30 seconds and Cursed Inferno to 10 seconds.
Craft: Shadecrystal Barrage + Everglade Spray + Forbidden Sun + 8 Living Shard @ Mythril Anvil
: Alternative magic weapon for Terra-tier would be cool.
It's enough cool for sending?
ashen warren
Terramare
earnest raptor
Yeah, edited
ashen warren
Sounds like the name for a horse or something
earnest raptor
Why is lorde-related?
ashen warren
Lorde has been dead for an eternity...I don't really care much if it's an april fool's joke
In other words
NO
topaz flint
Lorde:oh god why does this exist
[someone makes lorde-related suggestion for all the bosses]
N O
cyan lagoon
Hey guys i think he gets it
spark flax
no u
marsh gust
boss suggestion
lorde
in one post? 👀
cyan lagoon
Hey guys i think he gets it
anyways @bright tapir no, lorde is not coming back in any shape or form
ever
topaz flint
exactly.
quasi fable
@cyan lagoon yharim
radiant meadow
What is the thrower?
is cleansing blaze to photoviscerator that big of a gap? 
cleansing blaze was bad iirc too
keen palm
I need to work of formatting
Jungle Dragon's Breath / Yharon's Breath
"Let your foes suffer the flames of the Tyrant King's companion."
WHAT IS IT? Post-ML flamethrower that serves as the alternative to the Photoviscerator. This flamethrower would resemble the Void Dragon, but with Yharon's colours and his usual flair added to it. The flamethrower would shoot a three way stream of I-frame defying flames in a tight spread ( Around 15 degrees ) that would inflict Holy Flames for a decent amount of time. The length of the stream would be around 40 blocks ( or whatever goes to the edge of the screen. ).
THE FLAMETHROWER would behave like a faster Last Prism, to compliment another thing.
To make it unique and not just a another flamethrower, add some spicy on hit effects. For every 180 ticks of damage ( 3 seconds worth ), a lil' angry flame will orbit the player for 12 seconds ( stacks up to 3 ), dealing high damage and knockback. Another effect could be applying a slowing debuff to all enemies in the area due to the aforementioned sweeping aim.
RECIPE: 1 Empyrean, 75 Endothermic / Nightmare Fuel, 20 Nightmare Fuel, 25 Reaper Teeth, 5 Yharon Soul Fragment, 25 Auric Ore,
WHY IT should be added: The gaps for flamethrowers, let alone any of the non gun/bow ranged weapons, is so large it's not even funny, and the ability to not be restricted to a single weapon for a tier, which would be a nice way of making the player choose one weapon over the other, is a nice boon.
there we go
radiant meadow
oh
flamethrower = thrower
I recommend just saying flamethrower
saying the thrower is confusing
you still say the thrower in the 1st paragraph, and how long does the angry flame orbit the player?
if this weapon is supposed to help close the gap, why is it the same tier as photo?
dark sun tier might be better
keen palm
I'll add the darksun stuff later
vale basin
anyone who doesn't know about my newest idea should go check it out and maybe some ideas that would make it better
jovial spire
Post it here before you post in in suggestion if ya want feedback lol @vale basin
vale basin
Oh i did
jovial spire
oh sry
radiant meadow
there's no need to advertise your suggestions though
jovial spire
anyways it seems kinda meh. What would it be useful for?
jovial spire
Seems like a pain to code
Doesn't really fit calamity imo.
I feel like it would fit better in Fargos or Imksuchi's
mystic glade
thorium copy
ashen warren
I have a suggestion...
Get someone with old Calamity files to post a downloadable section of version history in the server
jovial spire
@keen palm Seems like a pretty decent and thought out weapon. Maybe make it have like 40 armor penetration since it uses reaper teeth.
that would be another thing to make it better
vale basin
You can't get bigger in thorium and plus The Abyss is very similar to the aquatic depths but way better
jovial spire
or else replace the reaper teeth since unless there's armor penetration or something it wouldn't really make sence to have it in the recepie
earnest raptor
Braelor's Infuse
Post-ML debuff
Inflicts by Uelibloom weapons instead of Cursed Inferno
Tooltip: Transfuse your life energy to attacker
Deal continuous damage, was increases, while victim's HP get lower, and add proportional life regeneration to player, was inflict debuff.
why : Cursed Inferno to foes with 1000 health too useless, and don't much fit with weapons from organic bars.
What's change?
mystic glade
was just talking about the fact that transforming is very similar to the transformations that thorium has
jovial spire
Nice idea, fits with the lore too
earnest raptor
@vale basin if u want new transforms, you sits in wrong discord
jovial spire
and it seems like a pretty good debuff idea
earnest raptor
Go to thorium's server.
vale basin
but calamity has better programmers and spriters way better transformations
jovial spire
Transformation rerally dont go with calamity
quiet abyss
Transformations aren’t really calamity’s thing
ashen warren
It's almost stealing an idea though, especially since you're directly stating Thorium when you say it, lmao
earnest raptor
calamity
better programmers
vale basin
the abyss
jovial spire
It still dosnt fit and it would open a shit tone of plot holes in the lore
mystic glade
also still pain to code
jovial spire
I know enough coding to know that would be a fucking nightmare to code
mystic glade
^
mystic glade
also just doesnt really fit Calamity's purpose really
jovial spire
gotta think about how much of a pain it would be to code when you think about a suggestion
ashen warren
Isn't the damage effect supposed to be radiation?
Wouldn't a radiation sickness effect be better?
Instead of healing your enemy and somehow damaging them?
DoTs aren't really meant to be strong anyway
earnest raptor
But cursed inferno on post-ML really weak
ashen warren
So is every other debuff except for godslayer inferno or abyssal flames
ashen warren
I wasn't saying it should stay how it is
Healing your enemies to death is really stupid though
I'd rather it just be CI
Even if it's not viable
vale basin
few items have lore
jovial spire
...do...
...do you not know tha calamity lore...?
There's enough to fill a book
like a legit 100 page book
thats how long you could write about the lore
vale basin
i know the lore but those are for bosses and some biomes
radiant pawn
@vale basin your suggestion reminds me of a really underrated game from ps1
unique vector
the lore is indefinite
will constantly change as see fit until the mod is completely done
until then, unless you are added into the team as a lore writer i don't think they'll accept any primarily lore-based suggestions
maybe an item that has some relation to the current existing lore, but thats about it
earnest raptor
@ashen warren braelor heals player, not a enemy
lunar berry
Wut
Rip the ‘praise the perfect one crab mushroom symbiotic story’ lore
We now have ‘fungus destroys mushroom and forces it to eat’
fervent zealot
chungus destroys mushrooms and occupies crab
tame moss
ashen warren
"braelor heals player, not a enemy" the tooltip says "Transfuse your life energy to attacker" quite literally meaning that you're healing them
Something like: "You feel your enemies life flood into you" would be better
I don't picture plants to be necromantic life absorby plants but whatever
Better than healing your foes to death
sleek wigeon
No.
the enemy gets the debuff
Ergo
the enemy is getting the tooltip that their attacker is being healed by them
In this case their attacker would be you
@ashen warren
ashen warren
Yes but the enemy is a computer
They aren't gonna see it
You are
Having the tooltip be directed towards the person who reads it especially since it would be a player only debuff is kinda pointless
But if that's how it is then maybe a "You feel your life-force ebb away.." and adding tarragon enemies
radiant pawn
if i did pass biology as i should've done
plants recieve energy from stuff like the sun, and from the nutrients of the dirt/earth itself
so it should be more like ''You feel the energy of the enemy flowing inside you''
or something like that idk
also that flower pun was intentional you're welcome
fervent zealot
why not "you feel plant"
heady comet
^
ashen warren
he doesn't enrage outside of the jungle...
@willow dagger he only enrages when you bring him to space or you go outside of his rainbownadoes
willow dagger
ashen warren
not that i'm seeing in changelogs, so it's prolly a pretty old change
worthy raptor
I never remember him enraging outside of jungle
elder kestrel
I like "you feel your life-force ebb way"
Since you feeling squeezed doesn't have much to do with tarragon/uelibloom related shit
Well neither does that one but the "you feel squeezed" tooltip doesn't really make any sense at all(?)
Also no point for a tooltip if it's a player-only inflicted debuff
pliant bone
Swag's suggestion is gna be op in nohits and boss fights that punishes you heavily for being hit
heady comet
you feel dab
tulip parcel
.44 Revolver
“Your guardian angel”
Post-Moonlord Gun
Flintlock + Silver Bars + Auric Ore @ Draedon’s Forge
A simple white revolver, small in the player’s hands. Does not autofire.
The .44 fires extremely high power and velocity bullets, but must be reloaded after firing six shots. While reloading the player may switch items, but must resume reloading after switching back to the .44.
If the player hits all six shots in a magazine, a “Mysterious Ranger” NPC is summoned.
Mysterious Ranger
Temporary NPC
Must spawn in top of the player or beneath them if the player is not on solid blocks.
The Mysterious Ranger wears a white hat and trench coat, in addition to sunglasses. His outfit is covered in a slight amount of wear and dust.
The Mysterious Ranger will fire six shots at the highest HP target nearby, using his own .44. The Mysterious Ranger is invulnerable, and disappears after firing six shots.
Waddoyou think
marsh gust
i see a revolver, i fall in love with it. tho imo the recipe is a bit empty and the effects are too bland for an auric tier item.
marsh gust
but that's a revolver, its supposed to be simple, powerful
marsh gust
hmm.. maybe the mysterious ranger should TP around the target with highest HP, like, appear, shoot, tp, shoot, and repeat until it shoots 6 times.. coding it idk tho 
tulip parcel
Well no
In fallout the Mysterious Stranger teleports in
Fires a few times walking towards the target
And teleports out
He only teleports in and out
marsh gust
ah..
tulip parcel
Basically he’s a creative way of rewarding good aim in this case
marsh gust
ngl, id like to see more revolvers in game, vanilla's one is just 
also, i think it should have an alternate fire equivalent of 'fanning'
ashen warren
Isn't that quote gone now that Scal has no more hitcaps?
also it would be pretty ironic since you can only get hit once in armageddon 
@ashen warren that's why the first word is 'readd'
waht
as in, add it back
enlighten me
marsh gust
re-add
marsh gust
ashen warren
maybe you should take a break from scal, it's taking a toll on your mind
I'm still sane compared to yharon
heady comet
leviathans dead though
stoic narwhal
ashen warren
elder kestrel
"You got hit too many times"
one hit kill
one hit
too much times
tired haven
That's hitcap of 0 shenanigans
radiant meadow
@ashen warren Fab tried but it's very hard to work with vanilla spaghetti code
radiant meadow
the only option right now is to deal with it or not play on smalls
ashen warren
i cant generate anything bigger than samll worlds with calamity, or my gme crashes
lol
faint rivet
Rip potato pc users 
quasi fable
My laptop is kinda slow
ashen warren
me too
faint rivet
Can't you generate like 3-4 astral meteors that should all try to spawn an astral biome if there already isn't one
cyan lagoon
no
you cant have any astral ore in the world for an astral infection biome to be created
steady cloud
Are any of the suggestions viewed by the devs?
radiant meadow
you mean bold?
delicate raft
You mean this?
radiant meadow
**type your text like this**
steady cloud
'got it thx
delicate raft
Shift + Enter bro
alpine copper
How hard it would be to make it so that a corrupted jungle still counts as a normal jungle?
wind flicker
@lucid marsh That's a bug for sure, probably put it in #bugs-read-pins instead
radiant meadow
it's an oversight that astral biome can't create astral mud
jovial spire
^
frail mantle
Tbh the Astral meteor should only be able to spawn in the Forest since that’s the only hardmode biome that’s not really important
frail mantle
I approve of stopping evil spread
ashen warren
I just found out this wasn't sent to the devs >.>
Or this
Looks like nothing got starred in that area
hollow shell
Mhm
Anything prior to like, mid-September didn't get checked when it was sent
They did get sent though
ashen warren
Thanks
fervent zealot
no thanks, i want some way to disable my world becoming a meteor infested hell while i farm aureus for fragments
ashen warren
bad idea, people farm aureus post ml for frags, not for having their world griefed 
pre-ml though that idea ain't bad, especially since that's when you'd likely be grabbing astral ore anyways
hollow shell
Yeah that sounds like an awful idea
I do think that the cap on infected blocks should be raised
cuz its very hard to remove enough infection to the point that the meteor crash will cause another infection, even with cheating
but
not removed
ashen warren
now i think of it, why would you need so much astral ore that a cap removal would be the only way to deal with it? In a class specific playthrough you're unlikely to pick up the majority of the stuff it makes
steady cloud
How to you space you're text
hollow shell
Shift+Enter
steady cloud
when i press enter it posts the message
hollow shell
Gotta hold Shift
hollow shell
heh
brazen yarrow
for our lord
brazen yarrow
methinks yeah pretty good idea
sure
and now methinks uncle danny will be happy telling the people
sleek wigeon
no dev items suggestions
brazen yarrow
e
sleek wigeon
If danny wants a dev item, he'll ask fabsol himself
brazen yarrow
fam
hollow shell
It's in the rules
hollow shell
(I would like for that to be in the game but yknow
rules are exist)
ashen warren
@vale basin is probably the best part about this channel
vale basin
yes
hollow shell
quasi fable
Is that an angry face
hollow shell
sus
ashen warren
The emote is called "why" if that's what you wanted
@vale basin do u have any other suggestions
vale basin
all right everybody lets brainstorm
frail mantle
Make the reward for finishing the boss rush an item that starts another boss rush where everything is buffed to post-Yharone Eclipse level
fervent zealot
but... br is allready post scal buffed
vale basin
how about some fucking huge pets
fervent zealot
and eclipse buff sounds lame
radiant meadow
so then give them all 32.5x health of course
fervent zealot
so just buff it tot post tchibii ataraxia stats
radiant meadow
and activate armageddon for fun
frail mantle
Akrasia
vale basin
and they could sit on the bosses
frail mantle
Something from Apotheosis and Friends
ashen warren
is that mod worthwhile?
vale basin
is anyone questioning my idea
ashen warren
nope think its ready for the suggestions page
worthy fiber
Apoth & Friends is a test mod by Terry
ashen warren
No meme suggestions in #suggestions-voting thank you
vale basin
not a meme
frail mantle
Mine is
vale basin
well its going to get memed anyway
ashen warren
Well if you're actually serious swag then I'll say it straight, it's a bad suggestion
how about some feedback
instead of being reactionary
vale basin
because guess WHAT!
were talking about @vale basin
fervent zealot
stop making memes
frail mantle
I just came up with the stupidest idea I could think of
Though I could probably think of an actual suggestion
ashen warren
It's not "because you're swag" it's because the suggestion is terrible smh
vale basin
i cant help it