Was thinking of calling them “Cumulohealus” and “Mana Cloud”
#suggestions-discussion
fossil torrent
i did it
ruby cobalt
I could get behind that.
fossil torrent
i did the thing
radiant meadow
You know what, I'm just gonna go back to DoG
tulip parcel
What would that furniture be
ruby cobalt
Jumping pad.
tulip parcel
Mario spring?
ruby cobalt
I guess, yeah.
hollow shell
tulip parcel
Or maybe that giant green shoe
tulip parcel
Naisu sors
ruby cobalt
Like old Profaned Core* then
fossil torrent
yup
hollow shell
Also I'm not sure why you felt like there was that much of a connection between Arid Artifact and Blood Relic
that Blood Relic needed to drop from an Earth Elemental equivalent
Sure they both summon events but that's about it
fossil torrent
I just wanted it to be gotten a way that is not a crafting recipe, and thought this would be a good fit
Also, i've always felt like the Earth Elemental is alone, there should be more minibosses similar to it
lunar berry
@tulip parcel make a zomg one too lol
tulip parcel
Maybe I will but I need more fuel
fossil torrent
gosh
hollow shell
Auric MOAB
tulip parcel
Ayyy it hit 50
lunar berry
that would be me
hollow shell
(referring to the suggestion's subject matter)
tulip parcel
No
hollow shell
It did happen in the 30s, but it was a commercial aircraft iirc
lunar berry
oh ok
fossil torrent
Blimp crash iirc
hollow shell
Blimp that exploded in New Jersey
fossil torrent
^
lunar berry
boom boom
lunar berry
welcome to terraria, where BFBs can explode themselves 3 times to get boosts while not actually exploding and able to be reused
sleek wigeon
2 consumables is way too few to go into an infinite version
imo, it should be about 10
fossil torrent
they drop at 25% from the miniboss, but it's a standalone suggestion so if the miniboss doesn't get in it'd be increased
Seperated them from the first post to make room, was apparently just below 2000 characters
hold on i'll just put all of this in a document instead lol
sleek wigeon
Both of them are still craftable
fossil torrent
wait arid artifact is craftable? 
oh my fucking god
oh shit
well
i'll still suggest this but increase the price
sleek wigeon
fossil torrent
How could I have missed it being craftable 
sleek wigeon
imagine not constantly reading the wiki
tired haven
imagine not being wiki 
sleek wigeon
imagine being a verified youtuber but having that role covered up by cooldude
fossil torrent
imagine not having wiki contributor+ role
radiant meadow
lul, Crab is warned
fossil torrent
realized first now? I'd bully the heck out of him if.. uhhh..
I did it
For real this time
ruby cobalt
Imagine actually being warned for not a bullshit reason.
fossil torrent
i'd bully him if... uhh... i wasn't actually warned for being a fucking idiot myself
@pseudo notch Please elaborate
pseudo notch
elaborate on what exactly? isnt what i said clear enough?
frail mantle
-silva armor
frail mantle
-permafrost's concoction
pseudo notch
it would be a nice item to have during a boss fight for example, it'd give some breathing room if you get caught up in projectiles and dont know what's going on in the screen anymore
frail mantle
like i said,
-silva armor
-permafrost's concoction
fossil torrent
Search around, look in the wiki and such, and see if the item you're suggesting already exists before suggesting something.
Those two, too.
ruby cobalt
Concoction doesn't make you invulnerable.
If anything it makes you EVEN MORE vulnerable.
frail mantle
tru
pseudo notch
should i remove the suggestion then?
fossil torrent
Yes
pseudo notch
done
fossil torrent
The doc is public, right?
tulip parcel
yeah it is
winter tangle
I like the suggestion
ashen warren
I think the non-consumable items themselves were good on their own. The minibosses seem meh. Not bad, but just a bit generic.
fossil torrent
Yeah i kinda don't like the minibosses together with the nonconsumables
But as standalone suggestions they both would be good
I tried as hard as I could to make the weaposn from the minibosses unique
tulip parcel
That lore master is gonna get a ✔
Or whatever the blue one is
Just FYI
@errant wind
Not that your suggestion is bad, it’s not at all
There’ve just been multiple takes on it
hollow shell
Nah, it won't
There was indeed a Loremaster NPC suggestion but it was uh
different
errant wind
I searched through the channel for ‘lore’ a ways back and didn’t see anything
worn bay
Yeah it was the anime girl
errant wind
But, uh, thanks for the support
hollow shell
The previous Loremaster actually had very little to do with the Lore items themselves
tulip parcel
Did you check pins too?
errant wind
I thought of it on the way home earlier while I was actually listening to Tale of a Cruel World
I didn’t check the pins actually
fossil torrent
tulip parcel
Most people just post like “make an item like this because I want it”
Without looking through any resources
errant wind
Tbh a large part of this is my annoyance with how useless the lore items are
But also I love the lore of this mod and would love to see it more accessible and present in places other than the wiki
And this allows for a shoutout to the people that make it even
lost agate
Y'know, loremaster would basically be yharim
hollow shell
@umbral dune https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Evil_Island
umbral dune
oh yeah woops
umbral dune
hollow shell
that exists
umbral dune
ok, sorry
tulip parcel
No Lore After Yharim (or rather, no lore items)
Part of the initial mystery of Calmity mod is whose voice it is in the lore items, telling them about the world. Myself personally, I believed it was Moon Lord, hence his comment about the Lunatic Cultist "Sealing him away", but that proved to be wrong. Yharim has a great prose to him in the few pieces of lore that he gives you, and it's nice to collect the items an ddisplay them.
What I think would be a good edition to when Yharim is properly added into the mod is, make no more lore items after him. At least, not in the same capacity. So none for Goozma or Xeroc, etc. After all, the speaker is dead. I think it would make a nice thematic touch to the mod, as well as tugging the heartstrings.
fossil torrent
There's no postmoonlord lore items anyway
what if it's actually moonlord and this is all a roose
errant wind
Xeroc?
errant wind
As in the meld armor set?
bitter topaz
afaik fab talked about being given a shot of talking yharim out of being a genocidal maniac a while back,
modest python
Yep
fossil torrent
God of gods.
errant wind
Oh.
fossil torrent
Xeroc armor is just offbrand Chinese ripoff, pretty much.
fossil torrent
Wdym, me?
errant wind
The thing bidoof mentioned
I was thinking, aside from the whole sealing away of Permafrost’s castle, really the only thing we hear about Yharim’s power is that he has really powerful minions
He basically sounds like Lunatic Cultist but on like, 1000 levels of steroids, with really powerful minions.
fossil torrent
Lunatic Lunatic Lunatic Lunatic Lunatic Lunatic Lun-
hollow shell
Polterghast's lore does mention that he killed people himself
Which I mean yeah that's expected but
does say it
errant wind
He’s lunatic cultist^100 but with a sword
fossil torrent
and a dragon
errant wind
And a god-devouring Worm
And the 3 already quite powerful (at least in Signus and Void’s case) servants of said Worm
And don’t forget the army of mechanized flesh-devouring bees
fossil torrent
Worm hates him tho
fossil torrent
they got a pact thing
basically they can't kill eachother even if they hate eachother so they team up instead
errant wind
Hmm
Well, same difference essentially
It still adds up to him having the worm and his peeps
hollow shell
Are you getting Yharim confused with Signus?
errant wind
Okay it’s not just me that thought that the
Then*
I could have sworn that Yharim took DoG under his wing and stuff
fossil torrent
He did
hollow shell
Devourer obeys Yharim cuz Yharim feeds him
Signus and Devourer are buddy buddy because they can't kill each other
errant wind
But it was Worm and Signus that couldn’t kill each other
fossil torrent
someone told me that it was yharim n dog
errant wind
Nah m8
fossil torrent
guess that was wrong 🤷
hollow shell
Yharim could probably kill DoG if he tried
errant wind
The point is, it’s Signus that can’t be killed by DoG
fossil torrent
yes I got it now
fossil torrent
then why is he killable
hollow shell
Player OP
hollow shell
Player knows the forbidden skill of
making stuff
and being the transcendent subject of good game design, allowing bosses to be killable with relative ease
modest python
Player has the ability of
Being able to die 50 times to the boss and learn how to do it flawlessly
tulip parcel
hence why nohitting is a thing
marsh gust
350+ deaths 
placid perch
The player has the ability to create items for himself if he fights the most powerful entities in the world with no injuries, minor or not
hollow shell
The Nurse is the most powerful being in Calamity canon
Able to restore a godlike being to perfect condition instantaneously and without limit
placid perch
Can the dresser change your heart, mana, rage, and adrenaline color if you have used the item that changes the color, like yellow hearts only once youve used Life Fruit, purely cosmetic, but would fix the color sequence for those types of items
Is this any good?
hollow shell
Why is it phrased like a question?
hollow shell
Should change "Can the dresser change" to "Make the dresser able to change"
azure elm
perhaps word it differently and maybe make a new furniture item for it, like some sort of altar
hollow shell
Dresser still makes sense as the cosmetic-changing-station
azure elm
true
hollow shell
but a new item for it could work
marsh gust
might as well make dresser able to change character's name n eye color :/
azure elm
marsh gust
contact lenses exists ya know
delicate raft
how does a dresser change your name tho
marsh gust
only that doesnt make sense ye
placid perch
Maybe make a contact lens at the dresser, and it changes the color that is gives you depending on the color you picked in the dresser
It would be consumable like hair dye
errant wind
One thing that’s always confused me is how we reconcile boss appearances with the lore
Like for the most part it all matches up right
But wasn’t Calamitas a human?
delicate raft
Ye
tulip parcel
oh, sors
delicate raft
Someone was doing SCal's human sprite
tulip parcel
not to bug you but an idea of mine got to 50, the "blast in a bottle" set
you want me to copy-paste it so it's together?
tulip parcel
Tyvm
marsh gust
that thing might be very useful in nohits
fossil torrent
I liked it a lot
alpine garnet
Who do we ask if we got something to 50 that's not checked? Haven't heard anything about who sends to dev server
ashen warren
Y'all just need to be patient
alpine garnet
The suggestion was August this year or smth
Pretty sure I just gotta link the message
ashen warren
That was before the current system
alpine garnet
Could you send it sors? It hit 50
fossil torrent
is it that new
hollow shell
Any suggestion like, pre-October or maybe mid-September doesn't have a check on it when it was sent
But they did get sent
ashen warren
iirc they take a screenshot then send it on the dev server
tulip fulcrum
And after time, it'll then be implemented into the game
alpine garnet
Maybe
ashen warren
It's like an almost never chance
tulip fulcrum
Oof
errant wind
Aw that’s neat
tulip fulcrum
Mhm
errant wind
So my idea is really close to being considered for inclusion :0
hollow shell
It's usually the QoL suggestions that get in, ones that don't require too much effort to implement
errant wind
That’s fair
tulip fulcrum
Mhm
hollow shell
But I'm hoping that the more common mid-effort suggestions will get a chance in the future
Ones that need sprites and such
errant wind
I don’t really expect anything to come of this, I just think it’s neat that I even get to have it considered
ashen warren
If you want something that actually needs more than bare minimum effort check out the calamity patreon
alpine garnet
Yea most weapon stuff is probably best luck patreon
hollow shell
Well, Patrons tend to go all out with their suggestions
After all, it's guaranteed to get in, might as well make it as awesome as possible
radiant meadow
If only I could donate 
hollow shell
Steal your parents credit card
Send Fabsol the number, the 3 digits on the back, and the expiration month and year
fossil torrent
I’ll donate eventually
errant wind
radiant meadow
are they gonna notice there bills go up $20? 
fossil torrent
For sure
ashen warren
Attention all terraria gamers
tulip fulcrum
ashen warren
Fabsol needs your help
tulip fulcrum
errant wind
fossil torrent
Just gonna figure out a way to make my parents not suspicious about me donating 20 dollars to a guy named ”Fabsol” since they still can see purchases on my card
eh who knows
I’ll put the non-consumable event summon thingy as it’s own suggestion tomorrow
Now schlep
ashen warren
Why would you use dynasty wood to make a campfire?
tulip parcel
why woodn't you
oblique mountain
hahhahaa
radiant meadow
If you ask me, Dynasty wood ain't real wood.
ashen warren
It's not
oblique mountain
i bought 9999 dynasty wood from the TM expecting that id be able to use it on anything, and I was making tons of torches and furniture and shit like that for a while, so I threw out my stack of 3000 normal wood, but then when I went to make some campfires for a boss arena, I was pissed to find out that it said "Any Wood" was part of the recipe, but Dynasty wood couldn't be used
ashen warren
That's... your own damn fault tbh
oblique mountain
ik
i should of know that dynasty wood didn't count as ANY WOOD, but I still dont think that it'd be a bad idea to do so.
ashen warren
"so I threw out my stack of 3000 normal wood" that's the part where you fricked up
oblique mountain
ik
ashen warren
Always hoard stuff like that
oblique mountain
that was pretty stupid
but would it be a bad idea to add dynasty wood to the list of 'any wood'
ashen warren
you starred your own suggestion you heathen
oblique mountain
i unstarred it
ashen warren
Mostly that it's not really that needed
deft pollen
Add Dynasty wood to any wood,should be added on the Re-Logic server in their suggestions
oblique mountain
but is that not the equivalent of a president voting for themselves
tulip parcel
you're not the president and there aren't 350,000,000 people who have the potential to vote
ashen warren
Firstly, I was joking and secondly, I find people who vote for themselves a little scummy but that's just me
keen nebula
Its not technically wood though
deft pollen
It is plastic?!
tulip parcel
no it's dynasty
deft pollen
Hooo... its... just an imitation of wood?
ashen warren
Since it's dynasty wood.. it's a shitty chinese ripoff?
deft pollen
xD
ashen warren
I bet the katana isn't even real metal
deft pollen
That means the Sake is just regular beer on a fancy bottle?!
keen nebula
It's eastern alcohol
ashen warren
It's supposed to be rice booze
deft pollen
But... it will be the real Sake? if you bought it from the travelling merchant? 🤔
ashen warren
"sketchy travelling merchant"
brazen wedge
i wonder if they can make the TM sell better items post ML
radiant meadow
don't forget his pricy items
sleek wigeon
2 platinum for a hecking ring
keen nebula
Well
sleek wigeon
Made of materials you can find pretty much everywhere
sleek wigeon
then a piggy bank is 100$
keen nebula
1 gold = $100
deft pollen
Sure is the kind of man who would sell "Auric Timbs" in his shop
keen nebula
1 plat = $10,000
brazen wedge
$20,000 for the ring
ashen warren
If you're spending 20K on a diamond ring then find a new fiance
brazen wedge
$50,000 for a companion cube
sleek wigeon
a ring, mind you, thats made of what looks like silver and diamond
Shit thats litterally everywhere
brazen wedge
$50,000 to buy a friend
deft pollen
And it could be a chinese ripoff too
brazen wedge
WORTH IT
keen nebula
mining is so dangerous
they have to sell it to compensate for the miners' funerals
skeletons, bats, salamanders, crawdads, slimes
sleek wigeon
You dont make 2 plat without being a bit dangerous
brazen wedge
bats
sleek wigeon
unless your the goblin
sleek wigeon
Goblin makes literal mountains of money in complete safety
brazen wedge
He rips you off
ashen warren
He's actually pretty reasonable for a person with a monopoly
keen nebula
brazen wedge
how does he even reforge them
tulip parcel
spiky balls
ashen warren
It's in the name
brazen wedge
hes literally making it again
keen nebula
100% experimental tinkering
ashen warren
Reforging a weapon is breaking it and putting the best parts together with new shit
keen nebula
That's why it's random
hollow shell
Good conversation please have it in a different location
deft pollen
move it to #general-talk pls
radiant pawn
the stupid reason: she's from the jungle right-
sleek wigeon
obscenely common
ashen warren
I'd rather not have it be that you just buy everything from merchants
topaz flint
walk to underground jungle
step 2.swing pickaxe
step 3.congrats you have 9999 spores
radiant pawn
the time i needed them for life fruits they never appeared
heck, not even life fruits spawned
sleek wigeon
.... were you deep enough?
radiant pawn
i think i have another mod that makes life fruits with jungle spores, souls and a life crystal idk
radiant pawn
wasnt that good?
ashen warren
Besides, calamity ups the spawnrate of life fruit anyway
radiant pawn
not the bee
i dont beelive in that
''samurai armor''
gives buffs to all clases
jk
it sounds cool i guess
radiant pawn
ah, good memories when xeroc was a global armor
radiant pawn
did you download the discord version? or the tmodloader version
deft pollen
What about using Golem´s and Plantera´s expert accesories has ingredients in a new Accesory?
hollow shell
What would Samurai armor even do?
radiant pawn
use that katana
hollow shell
A new armor that just boosts your stats sounds boring and unnecessary
Its gotta have a cool set bonus
ashen warren
Xeroc armor isn't throwing only yet
Next update
Granted, nobody uses it but still
radiant pawn
wasn't xeroc throwing in the recent update?
radiant pawn
oh shit
hollow shell
What?
ashen warren
All-class armors are bad anyway imo
hollow shell
What's the set bonus?
crystal osprey
idk man i was just pitching an abstract idea for a universal armor lmao
topaz flint
hey rememebr when basicly every post-ML armor was all-class?
crystal osprey
i just thought it was weird that there wasnt any samurai armor
or universal armor in early hardmode
ashen warren
How is it weird that there isn't samurai armor?
crystal osprey
because there is alot of fucking weeaboos in the world
ashen warren
That's.. not a reason
radiant pawn
but samurais arent for weeabos wtf 
astral armor is decent as an all-class armor imo
crystal osprey
pre boss and shit
ashen warren
It doesn't even work for summoners
radiant pawn
i remember that i defeated plantera, and then golem
and skipped all the progress for levi weapons, astral armor and then ataxia stuff
ashen warren
Ataxia is post-golem though?
radiant pawn
uh yes?
crystal osprey
ataxia lowkey makes all the post plantera armor sets useless
ashen warren
Going from plant to golem doesn't skip ataxia
crystal osprey
wish they could get a buff or revamp to get people to use them
ashen warren
Ataxia is supposed to be strong since it's for pillars and ML
radiant pawn
i meant that i skipped without noticing the astral stuff
ashen warren
wait fuck offtopic
crystal osprey
i know but before that the plantera armors were the way to go
radiant pawn
oh shit true
heady comet
Nerfing bosses is illegal so i guess we gotta buff everything else
crystal osprey
i just want a turtle/beetle, shroomite, and spectre buff
ashen warren
Spectre is already strong smh
crystal osprey
but irrelevant with ataxia
radiant pawn
arent they already good enough. like, i didnt test shroomite and spectre but. arent they good still?
ashen warren
I never actually used shroomite and beetle in vanilla
crystal osprey
i used spectre and beetle alot
usually went for chloro when playing ranged because i like to mix my weps
but they could all use a revamp
radiant pawn
i remember that i had solar armor, and used phantasm for everything
crystal osprey
you fucking bastard lmao
hollow shell
👀
ashen warren
Just fyi, you want to buff the post-plantera armors because of a post-golem armorset
radiant pawn
the good old ''grab the melee armor for higher defense, and use long distance weapons (range and mage)'' strategy
ashen warren
And technically beetle as well but beetle is kinda bad
crystal osprey
i know but it was still what was the best shit besides lunar
radiant pawn
i already thrashed that strategy and i am now doing a full run for the 5 classes
hollow shell
bois
#calamity-mod-talk?
Unless this leads into a nerf/buff suggestion
crystal osprey
im trying to think of ways that those armor sets could be reworked so that they're exciting to use again
hollow shell
Someone oughta think of something cuz atm it just looks like you're conversing
ashen warren
Eh, I got my point across
Don't buff plantera tier stuff because of golem tier stuff
Silly
keen palm
Suggestion: If possible, make the minion AI fucking do their job better.
The reason it's so short is so if anyone has any ideas, I can add them to it ( If you want I can credit you, I guess ). Other than I'll just lengthen it for the actual post.
worthy fiber
Cosmilamps have an uninteresting AI at the moment
You could have them shot bolts of fire like an upgraded Imp staff or something
radiant pawn
shooting 5 bolts and then charging maybe?
after they finished charging, they rapidly go to you, and repeat their attacks
ashen warren
A. Mana rose isn't that good and B. Eye isn't hard
ashen warren
If you're playing normal or maybe expert then yes it's good however on rev+ and higher it's not good because it's a multihit weapon instead of a direct damage weapon
hollow shell
What does that matter for?
marsh vapor
Why does that make it bad?
marsh vapor
I used it on rev king slime and it absolutely chewed him up
hollow shell
30 Rope =/= DPS
ashen warren
Hah. Yes you do need a weapon but even the wulfrum staff will kill him eventually
marsh vapor
I was trying not cheese him, and yeah, you can't get good damage on him with the rope cheese.
ashen warren
The point is that mana rose isn't that good and you're gonna be able to purchase the materials anyway
marsh vapor
I find multihit weapons fun and satisfying to use
ashen warren
So do I, except this one is super loud
But this doesn't pertain to the suggestion
Having it drop from the jungle slime won't really serve any kind of purpose
Especially since coral spout kills DS and bam you've got storm spray otherwise known as one of the strongest multihit mage weapons there are
marsh vapor
Like I said, spiked jungle slimes have one (or something that looks very similar) in their sprite
Storm spray is good?
hollow shell
I would prefer if they dropped from them instead of the Dyrad selling them
Her inventory can get pretty cluttered especially when using other mods
marsh vapor
^
ashen warren
It pierces and hits more than once on the same enemy so yes
sudden quail
Let's not forget that it would add a nice bit of flavour to the mod, which is something Calamity really needs
hollow shell
Eh
ashen warren
Do what you want. I just think that it's silly
sudden quail
There's multiple ways (I think) to get multiple weapons and stuff in Vanilla, so what's wrong with it in Calamity?
marsh vapor
exactly
frosty kindle
i feel the jungle rose dropping from the spiked jungle slime would add more purpose into killing it, as well as freeing up a slot from dryad's inventory/shop to make it less cluttered (possibly).
ashen warren
There are loads of "Only from this" items in vanilla
frosty kindle
however, i'm no expert on topic like these.
ashen warren
More than calamity by a longshot
marsh vapor
I was thinking maybe jungle rose + mana star = natures gift
so that you have a source of both of them
sudden quail
It still makes sense for it to be a drop from Spiked Jungle Slimes, and would be a neat bit of, again, variety, and it makes much more sense than being sold by the Dryad.
hollow shell
That also sounds good nalon
cuz iirc Mana Crystals serve no purpose after you're full on mana?
marsh vapor
I'll pop that in #suggestions-voting
sudden quail
Pretty sure Mana Crystals can be crafted into a Star Statue, but I guess that's not from Calamity
hollow shell
Nope
sudden quail
Must be Fargo's then
hollow shell
Star Statues can only be found naturally
in Vanilla and Calamity
yeah
@marsh vapor It's "Mana Crystal" btw
marsh vapor
thanks
ashen warren
You can choose to not make your character "Sam"
Just like you could choose not to use halibut and so on
quiet abyss
@toxic aurora The vortex fragments do make sense in that the swarmer fires out bees and wasps
And the vortex pillar has an insect theme going on
Also, a few other weapons also require stuffs that are not from their respective pillar type
toxic aurora
ok
quiet abyss
Lazhar?
worthy fiber
Lazhar or something
toxic aurora
the lazahr?
quiet abyss
Ye, lazhar
ashen warren
"It's a shame they're irrelevant so quickly" the only ones I can think of that aren't useful in hardmode are the ball of fugu and the herring staff
Even the ball of fugu isn't that bad until you get a better flail
So, I thought about it... Note: This is my opinion
Having the drop be from a trash enemy generally isn't fun because it isn't the same kind of farm as say, ectoplasm or phantoplasm where you are constantly getting small amounts of the resources you need
Having it be sold by the dryad isn't exactly engaging and gates it behind one of the only bosses it's good for in all modes
Having it be a 1/100 chance from an uncommon grass type is honestly just plain bad
The reason why I'm not sold on the suggestion is because it doesn't really solve the problem in my eyes.
However neither does the dryad thing, so I think that a different solution should be found.
I was thinking about making it a recipe, such as 50 jungle spores + 1 vine @ living loom
Note: I'm not saying that it definitely needs to be a recipe or even this recipe nor am I saying that Fabsol doesn't know what they're doing et cetera
I'm just saying that there could definitely be a more engaging and better solution
..wow what an essay
Oh and sorry for getting a little tilted at ya @marsh vapor
elder sparrow
basketball cryogen
marsh vapor
I get that you don't think that it's a good idea, but I do, and everyone is entitled to their opinion
marsh vapor
I imagine the icicles circling it as bowling pins
ashen warren
"Basketball" "Bowling pins"
ashen warren
It's a reference to a pin in the art server
Which is also a reference to space jam, the best movie ever made (or at least I think it's a reference)
placid perch
You are not alone
worthy fiber
I'd wanna see it be implemented as an easter egg
Like giving/selling the Soul of Cryogen to Permafrost
frail mantle
THE LEGEND HAS BEEN UNMUTED
ashen warren
I think the mod is missing some major underground jungle enemies. I mean, there are only 3 bosses and 1 miniboss (Which is just a nerfed Goliath) for the jungle biome, considering that the jungle should be by logic the most diverse vanilla biome. I think a worm-boss would be quite fitting for the underground-jungle who behaves like the Eater of Worlds with all of it's segments breaking up.
Just a thought
cyan lagoon
Boss suggestions are not accepted
ashen warren
ok sry
cyan lagoon
Miniboss suggestions are fair game though
Only up to around 2 per biome--no going over, would be best
@heavy nexus explain, please
What is this "gap" you speak of?
summer charm
There are 6 bosses in the Jungle. I think that's enough, to be honest.
Vanilla already pays too much attention to that stuff.
7-ish, cause the Ravager is tied to the Jungle without being fought there.
ashen warren
Ravager is tied to the dungeon iirc
summer charm
Ah.
You know what else has 6 bosses though? Pre-hardmode, vanilla, without world switching.
So the Jungle isn't exactly missing out on content.
ashen warren
Queen bee, Golem, Yharon, Goliath, Birb... what's the sixth?
radiant meadow
big oof
night cradle
Hell has 5 bosses
radiant meadow
brimmy isn't technically hell though 
summer charm
That's really interesting and I didn't realize that.
Providence can be fought in Hallow too though.
night cradle
But you know what I mean right
radiant meadow
last time I fought brimmy in single player, it was on the surface by the sulphurous sea
summer charm
Yeah. WoF, Profaned Guardians, Providence, Brimmy, and now I'm missing one.
ashen warren
And it's gonna get more
Yharim hasn't been added yet
And he's the Jungle Tyrant
Signus
summer charm
Huh?
ashen warren
@ashen warren
summer charm
Ohh. 😛
wicked swift
@cyan lagoon sorry for the ping, but I think gbradley means that the crystal in providence's sprite gets replaced by a gap
violet tusk
@eager ivy I want to add a little suggestion to your wisp crafting recipe
frail mantle
@eager ivy please include a reasoning for your suggestion.
violet tusk
maybe add something like 10 stardust fragments into the recipe so it seems more difficult to craft
and stardust does kind of fit with the aspect of pets and summons
frail mantle
tru
cyan lagoon
also you could've reminded me someone was being a funnyman in suggestions
;v
@ashen warren warned for meming in suggestions
round falcon
i know this isnt as good as most of the other suggestions i've made which most are garbage anyways but what about Permafrost and the Truffle having lines that make some sort of reference to the Dokuro rips by Siivagunner? The rips are, in my "funny" way of naming things, Cryoslam and Bubble Crab(ulon).
cyan lagoon
there won't be any references to siiva unless said otherwise
round falcon
all right. thanks for letting me know
eager ivy
my reasoning is just as an alternate mean to grinding the dungeon just for a light pet what was your addition to my suggestion if you don't mind me asking 😃 @violet tusk
ashen warren
You'd choose wisp over siren?!
topaz flint
Honestly
The siren is probably something I like more than a lot of things in this mod
Solely because the idea of mermfolk and mermaids has interested me
Plus don’t deny siren is waifu material
eager ivy
Wait siren is still better than wisp?
ashen warren
another meme tsk tsk
Siren is brighter than wisp
Or at least it was last time I got the strange orb which was.. just before the astral update
Don't recall anything in the changelogs that mentions siren
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren thats not a very good reason
bitter flower
so buff drata because its hard to craft
cyan lagoon
all because its "hard to craft" doesn't mean it needs a buff
bitter flower
and then remove the one thing that makes it a weapon
cyan lagoon
look at apotheosis for example
ashen warren
Buff all exo-weapons because they're hard to craft
ashen warren
But it could be considered worse than one of it's ingredients
violet tusk
about the babby siren pet
topaz flint
To maximize efficiency
ashen warren
Is that Night's Armor?
cyan lagoon
that was uncalled for
bitter flower
tried not to be too rude with that
topaz flint
Oh Ok
violet tusk
reasonings for my suggestions: Bars of Life need more recipes in my opinion and Astral Armor has become shit not as useful as it was. So oof
topaz flint
I’m bad at telling if things are being insultive or sarcastic
Also wait
Astral Armor?
ashen warren
Maybe because i was in multi player and accidentaly spawned 2 yharons
Instead of 1 and did no damage
wtf..
topaz flint
I did a mage run back before planetoids and abyss and I didn’t even realize it existed
bitter flower
excuse me w h a t
devout seal
I've never made astral armor ever.
ashen warren
It looks. Cool
violet tusk
Astral armor is shit crap so I added astral bars into the recipe for soulforged armor because they need a new reputation xD and it also kind of fits with the idea for my armor and magic
I never made it but my friend did
I watched them die a lot once they used it xD
and it would be cool to have an armor set before ML that made all classes benefit
frail mantle
try splitting up the suggestion, so that Dark/Carnage armor is one suggestion and Soulforged is another one
violet tusk
ok
oof
that would actually take awhile
ima just post a link
to a google doc I made
fixed my suggestion
hollow shell
Yeah we uhh
We've got no connection to the no-hit server
lost agate
He just messed up and havent realized it
We got our own suggestion chat there
@vale bluff wake up you dofus
radiant meadow
he'll realize his mistake in time
which may or may not have to do with a triple ping
ashen warren
think he's prolly doing a nohit attempt atm 
lost agate
The more it takes the more akward it gets
radiant meadow
oh, and notice the buff drat suggestion 2 posts above 
lost agate
Pffft
vale bluff
Whatd I do?
radiant meadow
you committed suggestion on wrong server
vale bluff
hazy glacier
@ashen warren come over here
ashen warren
oh yeah sorry
hazy glacier
it’s alright
hazy glacier
Yharim whenever he eventually gets added
ashen warren
hmmm
devout seal
Yharim will get added, and i'm fairly sure suggestions for things post yharim or draedon are banned.
ashen warren
I mean, makes sense, because how'd'ya know the balance involved into it and the materials and stuff
hazy glacier
that’s an oof for me
hazy glacier
Specifically goozma so far who has planned attacks
But there’s also Yharim and I think draedon
but that’s far into the future
hollow shell
@shrewd eagle You're gonna need to be more specific/detailed
Like, how you obtain it, what it'll do, it's name, etc
bitter topaz
removing rage building for literally no reason
just why.
lost agate
@neon roost a reason to do so would be cool
ashen warren
isn't nurse useful for building rage before a fight too?
lost agate
Except sometimes its not cheesing
radiant meadow
you know talking to the nurse in a boss fight used to drop boulders over your head
neon roost
oh actually yeah ill reword that
using nurse DURING a boss
will lower rage back to 0
hazy glacier
^
radiant meadow
that's better I guess
ashen warren
instead of dropping boulders, make it spawn an adult worm 
bitter topaz
hazy glacier
instead of spawning an adult wyrm, make it spawn scal
radiant meadow
why not both?
hazy glacier
deft pollen
is more logic making rage and adrenaline drop to 0... cause the nurse calm you,for heal these wounds.
lost agate
Yeah, im so calmed when a three eye boy its shooting oblivion onto me
deft pollen
The Player? or the Gamer? sure a guy who can resurrect will fell no fear to almost anithing.if is not induced fear.
hollow shell
I'd prefer if the reason was included in the suggestion @neon roost
neon roost
o ok ill edit it again lol
hollow shell
Thanks
hollow shell
@potent veldt Brimrose?
potent veldt
Brimrose isnt fast enough though
Or not fast enough to have more use than "I don't wanna run"
fervent zealot
why not instead of a ufo, a mini devourer of thots
potent veldt
Ive never seen anyone use a mount post-ML
ruby cobalt
Fabsol
Not a mount.
potent veldt
Brimrose's better
potent veldt
Its been requested a few times before, just differently worded
Basically a hook that teleports you to where it latches instantly
potent veldt
Because rod is uhhhh
ashen warren
The Discord Hook mod is nice
potent veldt
too weak, I guess?
radiant meadow
calling the rod weak
radiant meadow
because Fab nerfed it when used in tandem with counter scarf?
delicate raft
Honestly a Hook of Discord doesn't sound good
radiant meadow
I feel like if that gets in it'll have a really long chaos state
like maybe even 30 seconds
delicate raft
Why, it is worse
potent veldt
It makes sense logically, because a trade off of teleport distance being capped and probably having zero chaos state
radiant meadow
basically because you can bind it to a hotkey which some may feel it is easier
potent veldt
If it were any other way, it fails instantly
No chaos state
If theres a chaos state, then its worthless
radiant meadow
teleport distance being capped?
potent veldt
Because its a hook???
delicate raft
If it has no chaos state, then it'd be ok, but it would be a downgrade of the Rod of Discord
radiant meadow
pretty sure a hook of discord is just like a rod of discord except binded to a hotkey
potent veldt
Not really
radiant meadow
pretty sure that's what they want
radiant meadow
@ashen warren can you please explain exactly what you want?
potent veldt
That and its not instant either. Youd have to wait until the hook latches
ruby cobalt
Get that weaponout shit out of here.
delicate raft
And you can't teleport through walls with it
potent veldt
That too
ashen warren
A rod of discord in a hook slot
radiant meadow
so functions exactly like rod except you can hotkey it?
ashen warren
Yes
potent veldt
Why not just ask for a rod hotkey???
radiant meadow
lul, I was right
ashen warren
Maybe make it upgradable
radiant meadow
well, if it's that, I highly doubt it would be added
unique vector
rod hotkeys will make it way too easy
radiant meadow
if it did, chaos state would be like 30 seconds
potent veldt
That too
unique vector
it would either buff chaos state to the gods or break balancing altogehter
unique vector
instant hook = RoD
alpine garnet
Rod is already insane and it's annoying to use effectively
unique vector
whats your point
only difference is that you can only hook to blocks and you wont see where your hooking to
radiant meadow
having rod binded to a hotkey would be extremely broken though without an extra long chaos state
ashen warren
Why
unique vector
RoD is easy to use effectively if you build the muscle memory to use it properly
bc you would be able to use it instantaneously
with disregards to the time between switching weapons
radiant meadow
the issue is that normal gameplay doesn't really allow for that muscle memory
unique vector
shut it
ashen warren
When you can setup a macro
radiant meadow
just become a nohitter tbh
unique vector
so set up a macro?
ashen warren
And don't want to be forced to setup a macro
unique vector
well that's your fault for being lazy
besides, macros aren't intended ways to play any game
any game, at all
agile cloud
Its not hard to just press (inventory slot 0 button) then left click, then back to inventory slot 1
unique vector
they are optional keys/mouse buttons that not everyone has
ashen warren
Why not make it have a double cooldown then
agile cloud
i use slot 3 though
ashen warren
No
agile cloud
double chaos state length
unique vector
you see
balancing isnt as simple as "half this stat, double this other stat" or "add this to make it OP but just double/triple negative stats"
you need to think about how each change affects the balance of everything that it can be used for
ashen warren
But it wouldn't be op
unique vector
but in turn you might make it worthless
its already at 5 seconds, increasing it to 10 would make it less viable for things like nohits or if you have low HP
not to mention many people are used to using the normal hotbar, so it would feel like a huge nerf
ashen warren
Then just make it have the same cooldown
unique vector
then too op
bc that, again, removes the wait time between switching on hotbar
now do you see the problem with balancing?
its not a simple thing, like a lot of people think it is
if you were creating a game that would require tons of balancing then you would understand it better
tired haven
How much rod upgrades there were in suggestions already?
(not even many but much because uncountable)
agile cloud
too many tbh
crystal osprey
true, thought about that after posting it
but sometimes your summon is busy with another enemy/enemies and cant get to the specific annoying enemy in time
crystal osprey
just for quality of life
vestal elbow
Zen or Luiafk
crystal osprey
i dont like fucking potion farming lmao
sleek wigeon
When auric armor has a bajillion minion slots, makes you immune to small time damage and makes you murder anything that hits you instantly?
vestal elbow
pot farming is easy when you have access to bloodflare (and by extension, auric)
crystal osprey
what if you're a different class lmao
cyan lagoon
doesnt really matter does it
every enemy straight up dies with no problem once post-provi hits
sleek wigeon
^
cyan lagoon
so its literally just armageddon but 200% damage
sleek wigeon
What is this, Fool?
night cradle
Blood Pact 2.0
sleek wigeon
Also yes
tulip parcel
Yo so
sleek wigeon
The answer to "is double damage calculated seperately worth it" is always yes
sleek wigeon
tulip parcel
Fair and balanced right
I’m gonna call it the dirt emblem
And you can craft it using dirt
xD
quasi fable
Dirty emblem
deft pollen
For Dirty Deeds
quasi fable
Bwajahah
sleek wigeon
(but seriously, its literally this but more unbalanced)
lunar berry
@heavy nexus so uh....how is she gonna fire her lasernow?
cyan lagoon
should've been part of my post in #suggestions-voting but look at these
It's wildly inconsistent
tired haven
Normie spirits are weakest and that makes sense to me
elder mist
good thing they die fast so you can actually zerg farm
tired haven
IC bullets
arrows
that shoot rockets
What is that even
ashen warren
Guess what IC stands for
sleek wigeon
Intercontinental?
tired haven
"I Care"
Seriously tho, it's not about IC but about these metamorphoses
sleek wigeon
I (dont) Csee Bullets
ashen warren
It stands for identity crisis
tired haven
I know I already was mean for a while, sorry for that, but simple search for IC decypher showed me 45 different meanings
frail mantle
this is just that "arrows that shoot bullets that shoots rockets" suggestion from earlier
frail mantle
slightly
tulip parcel
Nanite Manipulator
Turn your enemies into POWER
Post-DoG Summoner Weapon
Spirit Generator + Nanites + Phantoplasm + Cosmilite Bars + Endothermic Energy + Nightmare Fuel + ~1000 Wire + 5 Leather
A simple glove, interlaced with dozens of wires and lights. While held, the user has an electric blue glow around them.
When used, the Nanite Manipulator spawns an amorphous flying mass of nanites which glow blue and stick closely to the user. When targeting an enemy, the light these nanites emit changes from a blue to a red. A Nanite Swarm only takes up 0.5 summon slots, attacks quickly, and deal damage on seperate iFrames. When pressing RMB, the user does not target their nanites; instead, they fire a continuous small red laser, akin to a laser pointer. If an enemy is hit with this laser they are targeted by any active Nanites, are dealt moderate damage, and are afflicted with Marked for Death.
After A. Dealing X amount of damage to a boss, or B. Killing an enemy, the player recieves a large buff to their stats, so long as they keep the Nanite Manipulator as their active item. The buffs are as follows (roughly; subject to dev balance):
Nanite Regen: Grants +8 Life Regen
Nanite Power: Increases minion damage by 20%
Nanite Defense: Defense boosted by 20, DR boosted by 10%
Nanite Agility: Movespeed, acceleration and flight time increased by 10%
Nanite Fearlessness: Increased Immunity Frames on being hit.
...no?
I'm putting it here first for discussion
radiant meadow
you can post it in here first
tulip parcel
And this kind of is
an apology would be enough
you don't have to delete everything
radiant meadow
so how long would the buffs last?
marsh gust
applies MfD
tulip parcel
I was thinking like... 2 seconds, same as the spirit generator
radiant meadow
too bad the remaining 3 bosses are immune 
tired haven
Just make it ichor ngl
radiant meadow
just like why MfD is useless on AMR
the remaining bosses and doggo if you want to farm are immune
tulip parcel
yeah it should probably apply ichor
the important thign is that it's like... a bundle of different things
all lumped into one weapon
it's basically... star cells, spirit generator, and a beam weapon all in one
which I think would be fun
fervent zealot
cells are lame, make it more like herrings tbh
sleek wigeon
Cells are fucking cool ya nerd
