ew stat buffs
#suggestions-discussion
unique vector
tip, if you ever want to suggest a boss or gameplay balance
try to think of unique ideas before going straight to "just buff stats lol"
bc usually just directly buffing stats = unoriginal and balance doesn't scale
a prime example is the future bosses
tawny remnant
Oh ok thx for the feedback
crystal osprey
I want to post a suggestion for a town npc by the name of Calamity Jane, anyone know what she should sell?
deft pollen
Wath about adding more Classless weapons? for summoners...
ashen warren
Summoner is summoner not ranged with minions
ashen warren
Thorium has banners
deft pollen
A "weapon" that put a shield around you?
unique vector
thats not a weapon then
ashen warren
Or, rather a banner
tulip parcel
oh no
unique vector
and might as well add i-frames
tulip parcel
nonono
a gun that creates like
a ring of bubbles around you gradually
depending on the amount you have you take less damage from a hit, at the cost of all bubbles you have popping
let's say, 30% is eaten from the bubbles at maximum
and if you have excess of the "highest" amount
ashen warren
Isn't the point of summoner that you focus more on dodging?
unique vector
not a bad idea, but the visuals would be hard to create
tulip parcel
it instead starts to shoot bubles at enemies
unique vector
make it a patron weapon 
tulip parcel
I'm saying this because um
deft pollen
it make a shield around you? and it work if you have a minion? the more minions,less powerfull the shield
unique vector
bubble man
ashen warren
The bubbler?
Realistically it should be like a daedalus stormbow gun
Except from you instead of the sky
tulip parcel
isn't it strombow
ashen warren
(no it's not a shotgun)
deft pollen
Mmm... i could be a bonus for an armor set? that regen each 30s? and prevent you from get a hit?
but is just a bubble?
thorn canyon
ahh trashbox, never learn to write english perfectly, it makes suggestions better :)
deft pollen
Maybe english is not his/her first Language
tulip parcel
his, and he's russian
ashen warren
Russian iirc
tulip parcel
considering that he's pretty good
eager ivy
i know at that point in the game you would probably have fire block accessories already but it feels like if it should block lava it should block fire block effects too
deft pollen
Also,is not nessesary pointing that out in the description
round falcon
i don't think vanity is the main goal of the Calamity devs. they were reluctant to even add furniture/boss masks iirc.
quiet abyss
Vanity is pretty much almost always the last thing in the priority list
quiet abyss
It's less "reluctant to add them" and more "there's just things higher in the priority list"
tulip parcel
what would you say is like
the highest priority
we know the lowest by now
resprites
but what do you most want done
quiet abyss
Highest priority depends on the situation, so it varies from time to time
tulip parcel
I mean yeah but what is it now/what is it usually
deft pollen
idk... if they add Auric Googly eyes in 2128 i will be happy
quiet abyss
In general, the high priority stuffs are things like problematic bugs that need fixing, and just...the stuffs that's the highest in the priority list.
Can't really say anymore than that
tulip parcel
inb4 fix mechworm
honestly what I would like to see is more fleshing out of the Astral
I should toss a few suggestions its way
maybe, I unno
deft pollen
Astral lava for the underground?
tulip parcel
nah that's not something like... content-y
deft pollen
it could kill the player in one hit... and make players wanting to fight the underground expansion of it
tulip parcel
oh, no, one thing to do
I'll write three enemy ideas
a "hallowed" enemy, a "corrupt" enemy, and a "crimson" enemy
deft pollen
They live in lava?
tulip parcel
no
ashen warren
"Infected Chaos Elemental"
finite canyon
Forgotten slime staff (Note this is intended to be my patron item and not put in #suggestions-voting )
An ancient artifact from a lost time
Summons an unusual cosmic slime to protect you
Buff: Astrageldon slime; The astrageldon slime protect you
behavior: attacks like a baby slime from the slime staff but also shoots out a few lasers at the direction of the enemy it is targeting occasionally that pierce once
obtaining: rare drop from any astral enemy (ideally meant for being viable against plantera and calamitas)
tulip parcel
sequence gets it
ashen warren
Infected.. corrupter?
cold terrace
it
ashen warren
The world eater or whatever it's called?
marsh gust
i thought astrageldon isnt coming back? if its a patron item is that ok?
tulip parcel
yeah
tulip parcel
yeah it's okay
marsh gust
a
tulip parcel
he's talked to em before bout it
do you mind if I help you with the wording on that when I'm back @finite canyon
deft pollen
Perforator´s Queen? it dwell in the crimson underground,searching for a place to make a new perforator hive
@tulip parcel
tulip parcel
cool
quiet abyss
Even more fleshing out for Astral? 
finite canyon
there is no astral summoning weapon smh
finite canyon
i pretty much ignored it existed in my current playthrough
tulip parcel
Like what does hallow have alright
finite canyon
all i did was got the ore and stardust and abandoned it forever
tulip parcel
Let’s put this in perspective
quiet abyss
No need to explain, we get it 
Summoner, throwing weapons and more astral stuffs will most likely come eventually
They're just not that high in the priority list rn
finite canyon
also there arent really any good summoner weapons for calamitas
marsh gust
how high on the list is making dashes toggleable in the menu instead of visibility?
deft pollen
Rotten Cell : It Dewell the Corrupted underground,searching for others of his kind,to make a new Corrupted Mind
@tulip parcel
ashen warren
To have astral infection not be an ignored part of the mod perhaps you need be in the astral biome when you summon the astral bosses?
ashen warren
What's it for though?
tulip parcel
Because you need to fight the profaned bosses in uh
No I mean toy sequence
You* fug
finite canyon
maybe make an exclusive material from astral enemies since deus and notstrageldon drop stardust
deft pollen
Why no Add a new exclusive material in the astral infection when you defeat Yharon?
tulip parcel
For flamethrowers and crafting
Tbh
I was gonna suggest it’s used to craft his staff
ashen warren
Nah the infection shouldn't be a post-ml thing big eyes
Pinkie has been typing for a while 
finite canyon
maybe random mini meteors could fall from the sky in the biome and spawn structures 
quiet abyss
Astral biome rn is kinda in its "early" state
Mobs, blocks and its functions have all been done
All that's left is fleshing it out with more stuffs
It'll be fleshed out eventually, just most likely not for the next update or two
tulip parcel
Pinkie boutta RKO is
You don’t mind us tossing ideas at you though right
I recall I pitched an infection accessory
That got a green check
keen palm
Suggestion: Remove terminus from Yharon's drop pool. Getting it from him feels weirdly out of place, and contradicts the tooltip for it.
offtopic sorta
ashen warren
Not really
finite canyon
or make yharon soul fragments craft it
ashen warren
The reason for terminus dropping from yharon is because old worlds and if people accidently bin terminus
quiet abyss
Yharon dropping terminus is for people whose worlds didn't have the abyss shrine
Ye that
tulip parcel
Maybe in like
keen palm
oh crap that's right
finite canyon
but people in old worlds cant get tenebris 🤔
ashen warren
Old worlds as in before terminus
tulip parcel
That seems distant enough
ashen warren
After abyss and all that
tulip parcel
Tbh what I did with that
I had an old world with abyss shrine
So I just made a new one
Ran over to the abyss
And picked it up there
deft pollen
There could be more weapons with the Murasama requirements to be used?
marsh gust
make adult wyrm drops usable post ML?
since you can kill the wyrm post cryo if you try hard enuf 
ashen warren
"usable post ML" what do you mean?
worn bay
from adult they do drop
ashen warren
Adult drops any time
quiet abyss
Fab is aware of that coldheart icicle and purified jams strat
And he's alright with it so it's unlikely to get patched
ashen warren
"coldheart icicle and purified jams strat" oh my wow
ashen warren
Now sequence-breaking to minimum possible bosses is viable
quiet abyss
Eeyup
ashen warren
You need to kill cryo and slime god now though
marsh gust
all strats were found by a hooman trying to use eidolic wail on destroyer for a nohit
ashen warren
Though it was almost impossible previously though sooo
finite canyon
lock that staff plaguebringer drops until post twins tbh
quiet abyss
That, and you need to be a bit good and lucky to pull off
Adult telekinesis can screw you over, and you can only get 6-8 purified james per world, provided you're doing it legit
marsh gust
nod nod
ashen warren
Yea I think it should stay tbh since it requires a lot of skill by the sounds
worn bay
Why can you only get a limited amount of jam?
ashen warren
Good for speedrunning calamity
finite canyon
op
ashen warren
Because it's broken?
marsh gust
i mean i wouldnt even bother doing it in a regular playthru
worn bay
No I mean literally why, I thought he just kept dropping htem
ashen warren
Full invulnerability for 5 seconds is stronk
worn bay
Does he only drop them the first time?
marsh gust
yes
finite canyon
does purified jam synergize with luiafk 🤔
worn bay
Oh
marsh gust
first time only
ashen warren
He only drops them once per world and character
quiet abyss
Mhm
You need to make another world and another character to farm purified jams
Here's the strat btw
marsh gust
https://youtu.be/KGat5Lfymmk
heres another
i wanna see people do this in a speedrun tbh
tulip parcel
coldheart speedrun?
devout seal
what the..
ashen warren
Wtf is that healthbar?
topaz flint
you can actually do this as early as hardmode
tulip parcel
it's uh... whatsit
topaz flint
for discord rod summoning
tulip parcel
I think it's part of unleveled
marsh gust
soul edge can just get u to DoG right? so if u can do this early on you have a weap for until DoG
ashen warren
offtopic
tulip parcel
shit anyway I'm gonna start rewording YuH's patron item
ashen warren
New halibut
marsh gust
yes sorry
tulip parcel
I'm back
quiet abyss
Ye, it takes a bit of skill to pull off, and you need a bit of luck to not be screwed by the telekinesis as well
ashen warren
What would you name a "soul of -ight" for astral biome if it were added?
tulip parcel
I pitched one!
Soul of Plight
Maybe too close to Soul of Blight
but
there aren't a lot of ite words that make sense for astral
ashen warren
It's either gotta be a spacey one or a gross one
quiet abyss
...Ye uh, that's...
tulip parcel
heh
ashen warren
Tooltip: "whoooaoaoaoa"
marsh gust
i mean it doesnt have to be "soul of -" right?
finite canyon
ashen warren
All souls are -ight
marsh gust
heady comet
Soul of sprite
marsh gust
soul of bright
ashen warren
Lemonade soul
finite canyon
soul of bright is kinda fitting
ashen warren
Soul of sprite
marsh gust
tulip parcel
Spright is ye olde spelling of spirit
sleek wadi
Soul of Quite
finite canyon
soul of fistfight
tulip parcel
I vote soul of spite
marsh gust
soul of site, as in meteor crash site? nahhh
quiet abyss
Why limit to souls when there's a lot more options for materials out there though?
Like Essences
tulip parcel
...oh
ashen warren
An astral essence would be nice
finite canyon
ice, air, fire essences exist
ashen warren
It just has to fit that slot for "used in just about everything"
finite canyon
so what would another be
tulip parcel
Essence of Brume
sleek wadi
If it needs to be a soul, Soul of Starlight I think would fit best even if it's super easy.
finite canyon
the inherent problem with the astral infection is that you cant really do anything really creative with the structures and its just average land except new enemies
tulip parcel
...no like
round falcon
Astrasoul
ashen warren
Astral infection is in the same slot as hallow
tulip parcel
So if we're doing essence
ashen warren
And hallow has plenty of stuff
sleek wadi
If it's in the same slot as Hallow then give it souls of light
tulip parcel
maybe like...
ashen warren
"the inherent problem with the astral infection is that you cant really do anything really creative with the structures and its just average land except new enemies"
That's what that was replying to
It was a disproving
finite canyon
also what if my staff got a buff post ml like the actual astrageldon did
heady comet
Thats another 50 dollars
tulip parcel
Essence of Mensis?
sleek wigeon
The sentiment stands
quiet abyss
Shards, fragments, cells, scale, blob, dust, extract etc.
Y'all don't always have to stick to souls and essences
And you don't always need to make all astral mobs drop the same material (apart from stardust) either
Like, fusion feeders (astral sand sharks) could drop astral fins, etc.
heady comet
stardust
finite canyon
new super accessory made from astral enemy drops
sleek wigeon
...why?
ashen warren
All it needs to be is a material that's used in a lot of shit in order to promote astral exploration
More enemies would aid in making it not boring
tulip parcel
Impossible Artifice
"A fusion thruster, constructed only of dirt and stone."
Astral Crafting Material
Drops from any/all Astral enemies that fly.
finite canyon
astral music kinda fits in less now tbh
sleek wigeon
and suddenly abyss theme is overused
sleek wigeon
Souls... arent actually used in that much
lunar berry
s o u l o f b l i g h t
tulip parcel
because it's not stardust at all
first off it only drops from specific enemies, the ones that fly
rather than stardust, which drops from any enemy
sleek wigeon
Isnt that most of them above ground?
tulip parcel
no?
finite canyon
hey ijones, any suggestions for this
Forgotten slime staff (Note this is intended to be my patron item and not put in #suggestions-voting )
An ancient artifact from a lost time
Summons an unusual cosmic slime to protect you
Buff: Astrageldon slime; The astrageldon slime protect you
behavior: attacks like a baby slime from the slime staff but also shoots out a few lasers at the direction of the enemy it is targeting occasionally that pierce once
obtaining: rare drop from any astral enemy (ideally meant for being viable against plantera and calamitas)
any suggestions?
tulip parcel
there's a good chunk that don't fly
sorry YuH I'm working on the retooling
I just keep getting destracted
lunar berry
maybe as a drop from astrum aureus
sleek wigeon
Why are you asking me? Seems aight
lunar berry
plus there is literally nothing in the game anymore that has any connection to astra slime
finite canyon
there are already kindof a lot of summoner weapons in that area in the game
its a memorial smh
finite canyon
lorde isnt forgotten tho 🤔
sleek wigeon
Any astral enemy seems a bit early for "viable vs plantera"
finite canyon
apoth
lunar berry
may we never forget
ashen warren
I wasn't implying that it was forgotten
sleek wigeon
Astrageldon was cool
ashen warren
Just that they both should be
deft pollen
Why no make an "astrageldom" mini boss that spawn on the astral infection rarely?
sleek wigeon
Not by any definition of the word was he a miniboss
finite canyon
boc for miniboss tbh
ashen warren
Only thing that made it difficult was post-ml buff but ok
sleek wigeon
Granted, the only definition we use on the wiki is "does fabsol say it is a miniboss?"
ashen warren
It shares more with GSS than bosses
finite canyon
its was on boss checklist so
deft pollen
The Astral Infection have any mini boss implemented?
sleek wigeon
Clown is on boss checklist
ashen warren
^
sleek wigeon
Boss checklist is not a suitable definition for being a "boss"
finite canyon
because clown clothes
tulip fulcrum
True
sleek wigeon
Please put forward your definition of what is a miniboss?
tulip fulcrum
Tho I think clown on the boss checklist is an error
sleek wigeon
Its not an error
sleek wigeon
Define easy
sleek wigeon
Difficulty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.
ashen warren
Et cetera
sleek wigeon
Many people find cndirion quite hard
finite canyon
much less health than bosses of the part of the game
ashen warren
wow..
deft pollen
in early play? yes
sleek wigeon
at the same time, many people can also find DS easy
deft pollen
Mini bosses are thougther hostile NPC that can spawn in certain areas...
sleek wigeon
DS obviously isnt a miniboss, so the definition doesnt work
deft pollen
The Astral Infection may get some Mini boss?
tulip parcel
Lost Slime Staff
"Cast down from the heavens in disgust, this relic sings a song of quiet tragedy..."
Summons an Astralgeldon to protect you.
Obtained rarely from any Astral Enemy.
An astral-styled slime staff, noticeably bulkier and with more texture to it than its counterpart, styled after the aforementioned Astralgeldon. While being held in the player's hands, it boosts jump height significantly.
When used, it summons a large Astralgeldon slime - roughly the size of the basic Ebonian/Crimulan mobs - which behaves similarly to the Baby Slime Staff. However, there are multiple deviations.
- The Astralgeldon is much slower than the Slime Staff. To compensate for this, if far away from an enemy, the Astralgeldon will fade out of existence and teleport to its target, fading back in to attack.
- Intermittently the Astralgeldon will fire a spray of astral fireballs at its target, non-piercing.
- When used again, another Astralgeldon is not summoned. Instead, a summon slot is consumed to increase the damage of Astralgeldon by 100% of its original damage, and increase its size by 50% of its original size.
- After Moon Lord has been defeated, the staff recieves a significant buff, rendering it viable up to DoG.
quiet abyss
" ignoring i-frames. "
Instant nope
deft pollen
That detail can be ignored in the coding,right?
tulip fulcrum
Mini bosses in my opinion are usually enemys that's seems tough, of course, depends on what level you're at in the game
quiet abyss
You do realize, that ignoring i frames = it can hit 60 times per second
ashen warren
Custom iframes or non pierce
tulip parcel
yeah
quiet abyss
sleek wigeon
Non piercing attacks dont have i frames to begin with
ashen warren
Custom iframes can be only 10x a second or even 5
finite canyon
it would be kinda iffy to make individual sprites for enlargement
tulip parcel
not really
you're just scaling it up in size
do you remember the original astralgeldon sprite
sleek wigeon
Why custom i frames? If each projectile hits only once, theres no need for i frames at all
ashen warren
It was an and/or
quiet abyss
Ah, you were going for non-pierce?
Be careful, "ignoring i frames" is basically an exclusive thing to piercing weapons, and so people will immediately register weapons that ignore i frames as piercing weapons.
finite canyon
no custom iframes tbh
sleek wigeon
I like the idea of him increasing in size
tulip parcel
it was scaled up to like, what, x4?
sleek wigeon
Thats neat
tulip parcel
they just increased pixel size
basically the intent of it is to exactly mimic astralgeldon's old behavior
finite canyon
ok ok i'll do the size increasing thing
deft pollen
Instead of Astrageldom it could be Jelly Meteor... and they act like the Calamari´s lament´s Squids. @tulip parcel
sleek wigeon
I also like the passive benefits thing. Helps out summoners a bit more than usual, making it slightly more interesting.
Viable up to dog is... iffy
ashen warren
Viable up to maybe polter would fit more imo
finite canyon
it has to be astrageldon 
sleek wigeon
the power creep between moonlord and provi and the power creep between provi and dog
is
really big
deft pollen
^^^^
finite canyon
also kinda overpowered
quiet abyss
I only have 2 things I wanna note
First: "3. When used again, another Astralgeldon is not summoned. Instead, a summon slot is consumed to increase the damage of Astralgeldon by 100% of its original damage, and increase its size by 50% of its original size."
Might wanna give it a cap.
Second: "4. After Moon Lord has been defeated, the staff recieves a significant buff, rendering it viable up to DoG"
Ye that's...very iffy
Even if you make it up to polter instead of DoG
It would still be iffy
ashen warren
Viable up to providence so they don't have just elemental axe?
quiet abyss
That'd be a much better option, yes
sleek wigeon
If its linear damage boost, does it need a cap?
finite canyon
tbf elemental axe got me to dog
sleek wigeon
Eh maybe
sleek wigeon
maybe like 8?
quiet abyss
Depends on how large the initial summon would be ingame
sleek wigeon
Wait it takes up 2 slots?
tulip parcel
roughly the size of the ebons
ashen warren
As large as a blight slime
sleek wigeon
I completely glanced over that my bad
sleek wigeon
600% would be alright
tulip parcel
I'll make a diagram
tulip fulcrum
Ok then
While we wait for diagram, I might as well say my opinion on the suggestion for "calamity jane"
finite canyon
back to the suggest for a vanity side mod
tulip fulcrum
Oof
sleek wigeon
to be fair
ashen warren
Vanity items/furniture are a great deal of the fun in terraria
deft pollen
Well,sure vanity items will be added post Calamity end-game...
ashen warren
For me anyway
sleek wigeon
that one issue is kinda a killing blow
tulip fulcrum
Yeah, vanity and furniture is pretty fun
sleek wigeon
furniture vanity and fun mod when?
ashen warren
A sidemod that has a bunch of pointless vanity stuff and whatnot would be nice
ashen warren
Or just adding that stuff to apoth
sleek wigeon
That was a long time
ashen warren
Reduce the size increase to 25% and cap it at 4?
sleek wigeon
for quite a boring diagram
finite canyon
thats a very noticable difference
ashen warren
ijones, not helping
tulip parcel
ijones I'm sorry waht do you want from me
sleek wigeon
I kinda like the idea that the slime can get massive
tulip parcel
screw you 🔫
finite canyon
imagine a big slime following behind you
sleek wigeon
:(
ashen warren
I think 200% and 300% are good
tulip parcel
yeah that's kind of the intent... muh
ashen warren
400% is a bit much without a new sprite imo
tulip parcel
maybe 25% instead of 50%
that way if you spend 8 slots it gets to 200%
er, 300% technically, but on that chart it'd be 200%
sleek wigeon
Tbf it would probably use a sprite thats better fit to being scaled up
tulip parcel
yeah
ashen warren
That's true
ashen warren
Oh, just have the sprite be big and downscale it
tulip parcel
yee
sleek wigeon
Downscaling causes alot more problems than upscaling
tulip parcel
YuH have you donated yet?
tulip parcel
aight cool
I mean it'd be pretty easy to set a cap
at let's say 500% normal size, which would be 400% on that chart
ashen warren
Only be used 4 times and a 25% increase in size seems good
Maybe 6 if you want it extra thicc
tulip parcel
I mean the intent is for it to get huge
sleek wigeon
Eh, i much prefer the idea of a really big slime following me
tulip parcel
it's more fun to have a gigantic slime
besides it can teleport
so getting stuck in blocks isn't an issue
sleek wigeon
Maybe have it start smaller?
ashen warren
Once it's too big then it becomes an annoyance when it hits blocks
sleek wigeon
nah
tulip parcel
nah it kinda needs to be that size
ashen warren
Relying on the teleport too much
sleek wigeon
Maybe it would phase out of existance if it cant reach you or materialize near you
tulip parcel
oh, no, I got it
sleek wigeon
Rematerializing once you got to a space it could exist in
tulip parcel
right
ashen warren
Having it be pinned to you as much as it can would make it work
tulip parcel
hang on
finite canyon
it can fly like the slime gods can tbh
ashen warren
Yes vorb?
sleek wigeon
He said hang on nerd
finite canyon
and when its flying it emites star particles
sleek wigeon
Eh
finite canyon
very small tho
ashen warren
oshit sors is here
hollow shell
@lunar berry
sleek wigeon
Oh hey its rover
hollow shell
I've always been here
sleek wigeon
Hey man
ashen warren
hollow shell
Lashes of Chaos is a Calamitas drop
ashen warren
Rover is omnipresent
sleek wigeon
He watches you when you're asleep
tulip parcel
"If the player is in an enclosure too small for the Astralgeldon to fit into, it phases out of existence and adds a new debuff tooltip to the player.
Cosmic Sadness
"You're making the Astralgeldon sulk"
Increases the player's health regeneration significantly, but with no other benefit.
Cosmic Sadness is not removed until the player enters an area that the Astralgeldon can fit into, at which point it fades back into existence."
hollow shell
Burning Sea also doesn't require a tome
lunar berry
Oh
ashen warren
I actually like that calamity doesn't use spell tomes
hollow shell
Biofusillade does though
ashen warren
It's annoying to remember to grab those
lunar berry
What else
hollow shell
Tome of Fates
sleek wigeon
Honestly, screw tomes. Not a very interesting crafting material
ashen warren
Technically shadecrystal iirc
tulip parcel
uh
hollow shell
Yeah, technically
lunar berry
AAAAAAAA
tulip parcel
no comment on cosmic sadness?
hollow shell
Are you doing a thing where you're bringing Astrageldon back?
ashen warren
It's eh because health regen is capped
tulip parcel
is it a hard cap or a soft cap
ashen warren
What do you think? @finite canyon
tulip parcel
the idea is to punish the player for being in an area too small for astralgeldon
without PUNISHING them, you know?
ashen warren
"Life regen is soft capped at 18. Any amount exceeding the cap will be 75% less effective."
finite canyon
uhhh
sleek wigeon
If the idea is to punish them, just astrageldon not existing and taking up 8/12 summon slots
ashen warren
You reach this in pre-hm
sleek wigeon
would be punishment enough
tulip parcel
Yeah but what I meant is that
It gives them some benefit
despite, you know
the gigantic drawback
tulip parcel
in the words of jontron
ashen warren
Or rather, you can
lunar berry
Just give them 50hp/s regen lol
sleek wigeon
sleek wigeon
especially since regen speed increases when not taking damage
so after a bit of ramping your healing like
400 hp/s
tulip parcel
like, I think enough that you hit the cap
but
not enough that you break the fucking game
sleek wigeon
Basicly
ashen warren
25? not hp/s
sleek wigeon
50 hp/s worth of life regen
is way too much
25 life regen could work. . Thats like 12 hps baseline.
tulip parcel
yeah
ashen warren
Then whatever you have on armor/buffs/accessories
deft pollen
im thinking on a summoner staff pre-hardmode,it summons puppies... from hell...
and it actually have a big knockback and fire
round falcon
Hellhound Scepter?
deft pollen
Hooo
deft pollen
is Good/Bad?
deft pollen
im thinking it can be upgrade to Cursed Wolves or Ichor Foxes
And Lately Upgrade Lately,to Sulphuric Sea lions
and then,into Plague Bears/Lions.
Depending it is comes from Cursed or Ichor
tulip parcel
I think tbh just the original barkness staff is fine
deft pollen
ok
low remnant
seriously, have you ever thrown a boomerang in real life and found the target gets hit backwards through the projectile? Terraria is weird.
But really, 'fixing' boomerang kb could be strategically useful for farming etc. Maybe it should only apply to the slower boomerangs because post-ML those type weapons would break KB a bit
brazen wedge
There should be some type of maritan invasion summoning item
sleek wigeon
Have you ever thrown a boomerang irl and hit a target on its return trip?
brazen wedge
no
sleek wigeon
Not you
tulip fulcrum
O
placid perch
Space Helmet
Can we go to Mars?
Crafted @ anvil w/ 1 Fish Bowl, 7 Iron/Lead Bars, 1 Diving Helmet
Gives the wearer almost infininte water breathing, and double more breathing in Space.
5 Defense
Space Suit
This is a size too big
Crafted @ anvil w/ 9 Silk, 11 Iron/Lead, 2 Air Tanks, 1 Jellyfish Necklace
Increases amount of bubbles given, 10 in water, and 5 in Abyss and Space. Gives off light underwater
7 Defense
Space Pants
One small step for you, a big leap for no one
Crafted @ anvil w/ 7 Silk, 9 Iron/Lead Bars, 1 Flipper
Allows increased movement in Space, and swimming in water
6 Defense
Set Bonus: Infininte breathing in non-Abyss water, so not in Space either
Air Tank
Fished up in the Ocean or the Abyss
Material
First part of my next suggestion
Should I put it in a docs?
placid perch
Basicly give a debuff that slower than water, gets rid of air bubbles
placid perch
Yeah
tulip fulcrum
But very slow?
placid perch
Not very slow, just a tad bit slower
ashen warren
Rip early game planetoids
tulip fulcrum
Huh
ashen warren
Not into it
tulip fulcrum
Oof
placid perch
Seeing as Floating Islands don't hit space you'd be able yo het them
But itd be a means of protecting them
Plus the recipe to craft the suit is easy
ashen warren
Well I don't know what an air tank is crafted from
placid perch
And good defense
Air Tank
Found in Iron Crates
Should I change it to Wooden Crates?
ashen warren
And the flipper, diving helmet and jellyfish necklace are not exactly "early-game"
Make it fished directly
placid perch
Okay
tulip fulcrum
Yep
ashen warren
If it required easier to get materials I'd say.. I'm interested but otherwise
placid perch
I think I'll make those in the upgrade of it
brazen wedge
Sounds like a good idea to me
ashen warren
iirc planetoids are intended to be early-game
By adding an air mechanic they cease having as much use and purpose
tulip parcel
I um
I got an idea but it's a bit sardonic
it's based on SJ's spess
but... well
tulip parcel
Air Canister
"Allows you to breathe in space"
Pre-Hardmode Accessory
Iron Bars + Bottles @ Heavy Crafting Bench
An air tank, strapped to the user's back. While equipped, it allows for a miniscule amount of flight.
Offers a slighty longer breathing time underwater.
placid perch
That can be used instead if its okay w/ you
placid perch
Air Canister
Allows you to breath in space, and increases jump height
Crafted @ Heavy Crafting Bench w/ 6 Iron Bars, 2 Bottles, and 4 Glass
Slightly increases breath time and jump height
I like it more
Than mine
placid perch
I'll put you in a little credits thing at the end
tulip parcel
👌
tulip parcel
You gonna post it?
tulip parcel
Oh
placid perch
Upgrade to the set done
untold gulch
🤔 I'm pretty sure the adamantite worlds have the ion blaster and its upgrade
tulip parcel
Ayy
tulip parcel
That’s fine
untold gulch
ion blaster was also cool during my mage playthrough
tulip parcel
I just like lasers
untold gulch
also vorbis i like your idea of the air canister
but it should use the cloud in a bottle
placid perch
Anything that blows up stuff or obliterates thing is good, to me at least
untold gulch
same
placid perch
Well it gives jump boost because it releases pressured air
ashen warren
The thing to remember is that wings are also lucky horseshoes
Gliding is also pretty good
tulip parcel
It is
...
I just got a stupid idea
Bottle in a Cloud
Pre-Hardmode Accessory
Bottle + Clouds @ Solidifier
Allows the user to glide, as if they were wearing wings.
It’s uh
Maybe a bit too simple? I dunno
Maybe it should include the horseshoe in its recipe
...muh
I figured people would like it
Back to the drawing board
ashen warren
A gliding accessory would be cool
Even though it wouldn't exactly be that good
Umbrella was one of my favorite items in vanilla
tulip parcel
...you know what
I’ll still pitch it but I have a bundle of ideas
And they all involve bottles
tulip parcel
not what I was thinking
Blast in a Bottle
"This is an awful idea"
Pre-Hardmode Accessory
3 Dynamite + 12 Grenades + 8 Feathers + Bottle @ Heavy Crafting Bench
Creates a large explosion at the player's feet, propelling them much higher and faster than other bottle accessories. Does not destroy blocks. Deals true damage to enemies in the blast.
tulip parcel
...I guess that's fair, maybe like 10 damage
but it doesn't give the player immunity for the damage
otherwise it'd be abused
anyway, this is just one of the ideas
I just hit enter too early
ashen warren
10 damage that can't be mitigated
tulip parcel
10 true damage in other words
ashen warren
So ignores DR and defense
tulip parcel
like other explosions
ashen warren
True damage ignores DR and defense?
Pretty sure golden gun only deals 1 damage on most bosses on the first hit
tulip parcel
you're right
yeah nah it'd just deal 10 unmitigatible damage that doesn't proc immunity
buuuut
that's just one part of it
ashen warren
Yer
tulip parcel
I collabbed with Lilith over the Lihzahrd expansion and honestly from how much is in my head I think I might be nearing expansion-level amount of "stuff" for this
Do you wanna help me write it out?
ashen warren
I mean, sure
tulip parcel
lemme make a googledoc
ashen warren
I can be bad at formatting since I don't know all the discord shortcuts yet
Pretty sure I know most however
tulip parcel
Okay so the reason that my mind is running around right now is because
"Bottle in a Cloud"
something particular I noted is that
- It doesn't do a lot on its own
- The bottle is empty
placid perch
Im making a space expansion
tulip parcel
So for example, I thought of a pair of "in a bottle" accessories that play off of both the heart in a bottle and the star in a bottle
ashen warren
You plan on adding a heart in a bottle? Or do you mean heart lantern?
placid perch
That'd be nice
ashen warren
Also DMs or no?
tulip parcel
mmm, let's roll over to DMs
placid perch
Im sleep after I finish all this damned writing
ashen warren
It's private
lunar berry
🔥 suggestion right there
ashen warren
"HOW DIDN'T YOU MISS THAT?"
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ashen warren
Do you mean "HOW DIDN'T YOU DODGE THAT?!"
Since the player has homing weapons and I don't picture the DoG as a CS:GO player
@languid scarab Sorry for the ping, it's so you see.
languid scarab
hm
fossil torrent
The blast bottle idea I like a lot
The Hindenburg and the upgrade seem really damn powerful
ashen warren
Hindenburg was aimed at being a ghetto burden breaker
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"BFB
'Unstoppable, unpoppable'"
btd reference
ashen warren
BFB was aimed at being strong air superiority
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(or i'm dumb)
ashen warren
It's a btd reference yes
ashen warren
MOAB is strong against ML so I guess it fits
fossil torrent
Maybe make the BFB a bit later? Nah it's probably fine as it is, since the only boss it's really gonna be used for is probably Scal
It seems so powerful though
lock it behind ML
ashen warren
Just try and use it against anything but ML and Scal
'Specially provi and yharon
@golden shoal Elaborating would be nice
golden shoal
ok
fossil torrent
For example, crafting recipe and what it does.
potent vortex
Aren't mage already viable
golden shoal
more can't hurt though
radiant meadow
@golden shoal you know undine's retribution is getting an upgrade next update, right?
It'll be a post Prov weapon
golden shoal
this is the wrong number, the wrong number song, we're verry verry sorry that we got it wrong! ping
golden shoal
hang on is this disabled?
ahh it is...
ofcs i woulda told cirrus if it wasn't
i was testing tts
;p
golden shoal
so exited to see it in game!!
ashen warren
vorbis go to bed
tulip parcel
I’m trying
golden shoal
i'm past the point of no return
golden shoal
same tho
unique vector
@radiant meadow yw
brave warren
@ashen warren there's a literature channel in the art server
ashen warren
Oh
keen nebula
On April 1st, Cryogen's theme is replaced with SiIvaGunner's version and Cryogen is a basketball
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keen nebula
Too bad no joke suggestions 😢
signal ibex
literature in the art channel exist.
tired haven
@coarse field the music is already split at 100 - 50 - 30 - 1%, so you may remove that part and suggest just backgrounds, which may be actually neat idea though slightly unfitting with nature of original battle
radiant pawn
Also pretty much being irritating sometimes
If your idea is for the bg to be bright like Rev DOG, its kinda irritating imo
It would be cooler if they were darker
coarse field
alright I honestly do not mind if you take my suggestion or not
weak rain
@topaz flint not allowed
tulip fulcrum
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deft pollen
If Cryogonal becomes more toughter when summoned on a heavy snow rain?
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radiant meadow
I mean cryo summons rain upon being summoned
deft pollen
But HEAVY Rain?
tulip parcel
look when I fight cryogen I don't want to be at a risk of rain
deft pollen
Maybe some post-boss upgrade?
ashen warren
@radiant meadow include the 10 sec from signut dying to doggo spawning
hollow shell
:\
quasi fable
@heady comet meanie
heady comet
You know whats even more mean? Nerfs
quasi fable
What
ashen warren
no i mean the 10 sec between signut dying and doggo spawning, if it only lingers for a second after each sentinel then you can still get mobs spawning after signut 
radiant meadow
oh yeah, mobs can spawn after signut
I was gonna change it to 10 seconds and mention that but I didn't understand your ping
ashen warren
yeah shoulda worded it better, my b
ashen warren
radiant meadow
although this time I died to a laser wall
fossil torrent
nobody saw that
fossil torrent
(accidentally pressed space enter)
delicate raft
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enter*
hollow shell
altitude
tulip parcel
It’d be 48 but I’m not a tacky whore
Sors question
Is a “bottle in a cloud” a good idea or a stupid idea
hollow shell
What would that do?
ruby cobalt
ruby cobalt
So a craftable umbrella that you don't have to hold.
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hollow shell
Yeah that seems good
tulip parcel
...no?
fossil torrent
it seems bad?
tulip parcel
That was my idea
fossil torrent
wdym no
ruby cobalt
But Bottle in a Cloud is exactly that.
fossil torrent
let me continue my essay
fossil torrent
why is every suggestion I do an essay
tulip parcel
Well not exactly because you can glide
ruby cobalt
It eats an accessory slot, that's a minus.
radiant meadow
you need to hold spacebar, right?
hollow shell
Vorbis's "no" confuses the world
tulip parcel
Like
fossil torrent
too much school
radiant meadow
it's not automatic, right?
ruby cobalt
Alright, let me reword it slightly.
ruby cobalt
"On demand" umbrella.
tulip parcel
Yeah
fossil torrent
So if you hold jump it glides
ruby cobalt
Wings with 0 flight time or acceleration.
fossil torrent
Bottle and clouds is pretty damn early yep
tulip parcel
Because wings
fossil torrent
I think it'll be something you go for RIGHT as you spawn in
radiant meadow
so essentially make it a pair of wings with no flight time or acceleration?
fossil torrent
rope up and look for a sky island, then use this to not die from falls in caves
ruby cobalt
That's what it would be, code-wise.
radiant meadow
and there's no point to having it with a pair of wings so it can count as wings like moab and soul
tulip parcel
Also I was uh
Gonna make a series of accessories based on it
Like it’s a bottle in a cloud
But there’s nothing in the bottle
hollow shell
Cloud In A Bottle In A Cloud?
tulip parcel
No
radiant meadow
so this could go in the moab recipe?
radiant meadow
tulip parcel
Remember
Heart Lantern and Star in a Bottle
So one accessory crafted with two life crystals increases life regen and max life
The other boosts mana regen and mana capacity
radiant meadow
so you want a furniture to boost jump height?