#suggestions-discussion
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Lul
It costs a bit of money but you get a lot from it.
Listen you not spending 3 Gold on a Suspicious looking Eye when you go farming isn't gonna ruing the economy.
@fossil torrent Yes and you get like 20 Times that amount from a single treasure bag.
With this you’re just gonna get even more money as if it isn’t enough.
There’s just NOTHING positive with this change.
@cyan lagoon the lesser drop chance is kind of annoying to add. It makes victide, a relatively early armor set, require a lot of farming. Even by killing scourge I can usually only net a single piece of the set per kill
It makes no singe difference in farming.
3 Gold dude, You allready get more money from armageddon then you will ever ever need.
Nobody plays arma in a normal playthrough.
@lost agate next patch "117 - Nerfed Spear of Paleolith - Done ✅ "
Seems legit
And it ruins boss attempt tracking in nohits.
With a reason
There’s literally nothing positive about it.
It improves nothing.
right?
I didn't have daedalus throwing and I didn't get anywhere near Shuck's insane dps
So what?
You buy 10 Eoc for 30Gold.
You get like 15 Plat back.
What you are complaining about is that now after the change you will get 15plat and 30 gold.
And this Destroys the economy for normal play.
But it’s not gonna happen.
That’s literally what i said, it does NO SINGLE DIFFERENCE.
I mean, playing in Revengeance already kind of destroys the economy tbf.
^
I agree.
PLEASE just stop. We get what you want.
But then what's the point?
@fossil torrent You trying to get them to remove their suggestion or something?
Not cool bro
That the people that do want to play it as a legit mode don't have to Use cheats so that they can actually play the mode.
No i’m trying to stop them argumenting for it and thinking it’s a good change
lol
Nope
While their suggestion might be broken it doesn't break any of the rules
This has something positive to it.
It Makes Armageddon into an actual playable mode that can be played trough as a full playtrough without a cheat.
Not trying to get it removed
@violet tusk #bugs-read-pins 
Please SHUT UP already.
No.
Gosh.
There's a doc that has FAQ
Javyz just chill
hmm what mod
@ashen warren oh? I did not notice you suggesting that for the profaned furniture set, my bad
Just because you told me to.
rudely
We get nothing from being aggressive
Was about to ping a mod 
Yeah like
What did he try to suggest?
Don’t minimod
hey nice, cob came himself 
Cob always there to help 
Honestly don’t be so aggro jav
There’s no reason for it
^^ thx drh
3 mods ouchy
lmao
Debunking is fine but don’t tell him to shut up
yeah, sorry just got annoyed lol
Gotta cool your jets
get that
Alright now...
goodnight
Also hi Vorbis
Hola
yeah hi just jumped outta nowhere
funny how all that just died when the mod army arrived 
mods are scary 
Mhm
Not really
Sometimes
Someone’s gotta mediate
I'm trying to make a joke
O

Yea but if you piss a mod off you get warned even if you don't know how you did it
Yeah

Pinging tends to make folks annoyed
Oof
Brainlet pls
Alright lads, time for suggestion talk now
Ahaa yes
#general-talk is that-away for those who arent
Why does victide require coral
so now we can talk about how seashells and stuff dropped because of old sprites I guess
although I think ds should keep it imo
Why is it called victide bars if victide is just 25% of it
My bad melee preHM buff suggestion essay got 50 stars 
rather than forcing it to only drop from the eye
I don't mind cnidrion losing it since farming for it is kinda cheesy imo
He meant losing all but victide i think
then again, I had the one run where I had 20 cnidrions before a stormlion drop 
he said victory drops which I assume meant the shards
amidias' spark
New melee weapon :thinkies:
I don't see victide as that much of an issue because melee needs the boomerang
also forgot Aquatic Scourge also drops victide bar drops 
add thinkies emote to server tbh ngl

ye that
@ashen warren i personally don't think so and prefer the enchanted sword to boomerangs and the seashell boomerang.
hey he dropped it
enchanted sword is much more luck based though
get lucky with uncommon mob drop or a shrine
The boomerang is the most powerful melee weapon until Ballofugu
Seabow with jester is stronger than the antlion bow sure but either way it's op
Victide isn't all that strong
Summoner is currently using wulfrum for the extra minion slot anyway and they get no victide weapon
Not really, shrines are very common
"prefer the enchanted sword" ahaha
yes, but finding them can be difficult
Mhm
and they're often fake
Seashell = only way to do deathmode
Yep
you could also do ball o hurt 
Well i don't know nuch about death but in rev i prefered enchanted to boomerang.
Enchanted has like a quarter of the dps unless you're within dying range
Contact damage is stupid
anyway
But either way i think calling it the '' only'' way to do death is a stretch.
yes, diglett got away with bol shenanigans
I've played death-mode melee only, the only weapons I used in boss-fights were meteor fist, ball o hurt, seashell boomerang, fugu and the gelblade thing
Because you take effectively double the damage you need range
that's plenty isn't it?
death also can mess around with adrenaline true melee shenanigans
So can rev though?
Oh right, I used the claws against crab
crabbar gets vietnam flashbacks @radiant meadow
I barely noticed the damage increase Rev gives honestly
especially with rage
The sound effect probably has more impact
Lol
+140% bonus dmg bypassing caps honestly didn't feel like I was tearing through the boss
In rev i just ignore them...
I tend to ignore rage unless I'm about to die but I always activate adrenaline within the 5 second time-span
Wolf’s Glasses
“What big eyes you have”
Pre-Hardmode Accessory
Drops from Angry Dogs
A pair of thick rimmed glasses sitting on top of a pink nightcap.
Increases the size of all Claw-type weapons by 300%.
Really simple suggestion I know
You think so?
Take mycelial claws.
*4 the damage.
Take baghnakhs.
*4 the damage.
Take mantis claws.
No
...you get where I'm going.
It’s not DAMAGE
mantis claws aren't even too good tbf
It’s SIZE
Size means you'd have to not come close.
The main balance around claws is you basically have to get hit
You're not getting an explicit 300% damage upgrade, but rather an indirect one.
Since your weapon is now bigger (AND STILL SWINGS AT THAT STUPID SPEED).
I just want a claw weapon that creates slashes at the cursor like that ragnarok weapon in thorium
Speed nerfed of course
ayy the popcorn
I think it sounds kinda nice
A super fast broadsword is way better than a true melee shortsword
And those have a proud spot
popcorn weapon, what is this, thorium? 
oh yeah that’s tremor 
That stupid corn boss...
btw drh, isn’t it 3 am for you?
2*
ah only 2 ahead of me
I uninstalled Thorium just because of the ball and chain skellies
Never went back
let the flame war begin
Calamity’s just entirely different
overhaul 
more like mod conflicts, hurricanes, and fire
I had a dude in #help-advice-read-pins complain about flying sharks in Cryogen fight.
I will probabbly get shot by someone for saying this butttt...
I prefer thorium to both overhaul and calamity...
oh yeah some people think thorium is better than calamity, those people exist lol
Flying sharks in Cryogen?!? 
Overhaul is fire 
🔫 I mean thorium is great
Yeah the definition of overhaul is FIRE
true
Btw gonna do this
torches in wooden house
Cryogen summons rain which I guess triggers Overhaul hurricane event or something.

Torrential tear should help that...
Nah
oh, and the neverending mod conflicts
EVERYONE DON’T START COMPARING THORIUM AND CALAMITY, THEY’RE NOT REALLY COMPARABLE, AND PEOPLE CAN HAVE WHICHEVER PREFERENCES THEY WANT
done
goodnight
Let me rephrase that
a big chunk of the reported bugs are fixed by disabling Overhaul
DONT COMPARE ANY MOD AND CALAMITY UNLESS THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR AND CAN BE EASILY COMPARED. PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES
^ good
to be honest
you mean if another mod plagiarizes? 
pin jk
apoth n friends
we should probably talk about actual suggestions now 
apoth isn't plagiarism if one of the main Calamity coders codes apoth 
oh fabsol we totally weren't in a flame war about mods just now
gnight
who is apoth maker now again?
nutshack reference
@ashen warren The goodest ascension guy
No

Look away for 10 seconds and you doin' me dirty.
Talk suggestions or move, please.

Okay
gn
Sorry
@ashen warren thank you...
Now i'm going to hear nothing but it's the nutshack trough the night...
Goodnight.
Night shack 👋
Whoops... sorry.
I’ve said goodnight like 5 times now
Offtopic ➡ 🚪
Thorium, obviously
I just your suggestion has a Terminus theme.
but that means someone else would have to make it.
last warning before i cut heads
:/
oh no
you can even make a farm of it
by having a lot of mud
and some Chlorophyte
it takes ages but
it'll grow
at least make the drop 10-27 ore for consistency
chlorophyte slime would be dank as fuck b
chloro mining is a bitch once you've made a bunch of stuff and you're having a shortage
If he had homing spikes i would never visit the joungle ever again
The normal jungle slime is a pain
Imagine a homing one...
Chlorophyte mining is never a bitch wtf.
You just go where you havent been before
and blammo
its everywhere
Especially with the speed of the pickaxe axe
Mhm
Pick a spot on jungle surface
Mine downwards with spelunker
Bingo
exactly
wait
did you just suggest
brimestone elemental vanity?
.
where's the patreon to support this!?
I wanna ride on brimmie (don't take that out of context)
you can have her rose
I want to fornicate with the brimstone elemental
with the vanity you'll be a mini brimmie
don't take that out of context
XD
Mhm
I mean mount
Yep
and also one to have her protecc you....so why no npc or vanity
Don't take anything in here out of context... cause it's really easy to do so.
same could be said about the siren but 1.not sure if people like her as much 2.she has an item that basicly turns you into her and 3.people are too busy dying to leviathan to focus on her 
I see we have another siren fan
Heck I like all the wiafus, even the old ones
I'm a sand elemental fan...
also based on her lore I like to imagine when fighting her she's testing your might if you're worthy....or just murdering you if you try prematuraly
Old cloudie was best cloudie
Mhm
Oof
Not the old cloudie i mean blue eyed cloudie
oh that cloudie
Is there a gold medal we can earn at the olympics for being pros at derailing convos and going off topic?
If so we are going for the gold.
I wonder if we could could change their textures without screwing things up
@crystal osprey I'm 90% sure that's in #changelogs for the next update
thank fucking god
21 - Night's Edge, True Night's Edge, Beam Sword, True Excalibur, Phoenix Blaster, Cursed Capper, Aeries, Venus Magnum, and Caustic Edge can now be "auto-fired". However, Phoenix Blaster, Cursed Capper, Venus Magnum, and Aeries have had their base damage lowered to compensate.
O
(Might like to delete that suggestion...)
read changelogs nerds
Oof
^^
Well, back to talking about elemtals, I think they should add a config option to change the taxtures of the elementals, mainly the sand, cloud, and siren lure
deleted like my first child
how to kill a conversation 101
Yep
Basically that
Tho I must say, I can see Wolfram furiture being a nice and gucci thing, since what else can you do with it? Armor and weapons? Mmmm I'll just stick with getting copper
wulfrum bow op
The thing with wulfrum is
The colour scheme would get really boring really fast if used in a build
It's a pretty fugly shade of green
i think that's what it's for lol
Makes wulfrum into a new endgame post-Scal ore
It's a testament to how good the spriting is since otherwise I wouldn't touch wulfrum
It's that ugly colour-wise
Oof
Hm now that we're mentioning furniture, I think monolith furniture would be a good thing to suggest since we have the astral infection
Well oof
Ye it's been suggested
Ah, ok then
@umbral dune Provide a why
Looks like i'm not the only one to suggest that
stink potion and love potion have no effect
Alright that's an ok reason
The suggestion that I made ages ago and the one that was made today was to make certain calamity furniture sets immune to lava
Because I don't like obsidian brick
I could say the same
@tulip fulcrum "ill just stick with copper"\
wot
Have you ever used
a wulfrum pick?
Oh
insert squished ralsei head
Welp, that pretty much tell how long I used wulfrum
usually go copper -> crimson
Huh
what
Nothing
k
Sooo...
What suggestion to talk about...
Buff drat?
Its a joke
Everyone wants to buff drat because its "bad" only because it doesnt let you get hit
O
I mean
There is such a thing as being too challenging to use
well, it's Syg's UT item so he sets the difficulty, right?
with some negotiation I guess
heard original recipe needed crystal
I assume Sygilin wants people to use it / like it
I'm sure he'd be okay with making it more forgiving if a lot of people dislike how it works currently
Syg had intent on making the weapon require lots of skill to effectively use.
but for an average player who doesn't like the massive grind, just use the Gale and pray to RNGesus 
@violet tusk 5-20% is not small percent when its ALL MOBS in the biome/area. it should be wayyyy lower. especially with the existence of zerg potions. or it should be its own crafting recipe or purchasable from an npc
The only ones I agree with are "Make bosses drop their music box on death" and "Allow playing music through vanity slots" I want to fight all my bosses with return to slime in the background kthx bai
good thing a mod already lets most play in vanity slots 
most because it doesn't work if the mod doesn't put "Music Box" in the accessory's name
Works with calamity boxes?
yes
Instadownload
Called "Better Music Boxes" iirc
that one hot chocolate item idea from multiple hours back sounds even hotter than lowering the volume on sounds played whenever an astral monster is hit
Zerg. Potion. Use it
decreased spawn rates can't help ear pain with a singular monster
even one's pretty bad
oh. right. i mixed it with zen
O damn
it makes 300*
^ tbh
O my
zerg is like when someone openly says they like rewind 2018
all the others come in with pitchforks
Oof
Zerg potion is a stupid excuse
We have crafting recipes for all the Ankh Charm items for a reason
Thought you weren't allowed to suggest legos
You’re not
"Already all decided on" or something
Here’s my idea for an original legendary
It was in a pin a while ago iirc
Well looking up "legendary suggestion" didn't bring up any results
Guess the message was deleted
i'll repost it here for criticism
thats.... not a rule
legit I would've sworn to my grave that was a pin
while some old suggestions rules were transfered "e.g no more waifus" i can say no legendaries did not exist
Legendary drop from The Twins:
Ranged, uses gel
Left-click: Fires a red, enemy-piercing disintegration ray (like the Heat Ray)
Right-click: Fires cursed flames in a roughly 60 degree cone.
That's a really wide cone
30 looks good to me
30° is good
👍
@ashen warren tbh
Man, you know how things work here
Suggestions there, discussion here

Rip
Perhaps something related to glaucoma
LOL
Maybe
maybe in the tooltip
blepharospasm is eye-twitching
"Presbyopia is a condition associated with the aging of the eye that results in progressively worsening ability to focus clearly on close objects"
Seems legit and sounds nice
Hence why it would be great for a flamethrower type weapon
spray and pray
one suggestion for an alternative tag line could be
"We all scream for EYE SCREAM
"
straight out of Companions of Xanth
Honestly I think we should seek a summoner legendary first
Melee has 3, Mage has 2, Throwing has 1, Ranged has 1 and Summoner has nadda
Forgot briny existed 
I still like my idea for the Phylactery of the Damned
😛
Lich Summon
cause I've yet to see an actual...y'know...real undead summon in game that's interesting and cool
Problem is that it's skeletron
Yep
At that point you've already got world evil summon and herring
I'd been thinking about potentially moving it to Skeletron Prime and upping the numbers
then again I'm not designer. I'm an idea guy.
Every mech boss having a legendary
Techno-lich..
Sweet
Hehe. Like that Lich/Reaper guy from that one game..the beat/dungeon crawler game
anyway a Mecha-Lich/Techno-Lich could be very cool
Crypt of the NecroDancer?
if someone makes a lich item for the necrodancer lich
I'll make a gungeon lich item
...probably an accessory
I still need to play that one
it's good
Enter the Gungeon, right?
hasnt someone suggested a gungeon thing
yeah it and it was a lazy direct rip
...Guess I need to make a hefty donation to the patreon to make it happen? lol
ouch
nah you don't, suggestions...
[sometimes] go through
rarely, but they do
if you want to force it patreon is the way to go
Well..Thing is I wanted to do it anyway to try and donate for an item in my sons name 😄
cause he'd love that
All sorts of things. Yoyo's, Summons
I remember when getting him Solar Armor was the thing
But he works really hard as a summoner cause it teaches him to dodge
hmm
I'd thought of something he loves the most which is the 'waifus'
and said...what if I suggested an item through patreon that puts a lil boy/familiar like a fairy behind your head
lol
like a navi but maybe not annoying
Mhmm. Name it 'Orion'
which is his middle name
have it drop stars upon the character being hit
how about instead of that it's like... an "accessory" minion
to play more in with it being orion
maybe it fires an arrow into the sky then like ~3 stars drop onto enemies
and that's its attack
sounds legit
like the crabulon minion, but with stars
fun fact, as he grew older...he grew 3 freckles on his left temple shaped like Orions Belt 😛
that's what we said. He has a hefty name to live up to being Alexander Orion
Where would that item drop though is the question
maybe off minions from a meteor?
pixies?
maybe an astral thing
pixies sounds closer
or maybe it's crafted with like
pixie dust, star fury and some kinda bow
Something like that
"high end phm bow"
Hell..Let me try Suggesting that anyway
galeforce
Galeforce
that's the one
yeah, galeforce currently isn't used in anything
I say you should make galeforce the component
so pixie dust, galeforce and star fury
i got something that perfect a Phoenix Mount xD
How's that look Vorbis?
5 pixie dust is way too low
make it like... 30? 50? somewhere round there
put the name over the "what it is", so
Orion
Hardmode Accessory
Done
lemme retool this for you a little bit...
Starfury is already used to make the ark iirc
Ty there Vorbis
Maybe use this instead? https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Starfall
Ooo
or use fallen stars
Fallen Stars might be a good alternative too
Orion's Quiver
"And so the hunter rained vengeance from the heavens."
Hardmode Accessory
40 Pixie Dust + 1 Galeforce + (10 Fallen Stars/1 Starfall/1 Star Fury, your choice Hamlatte)
Summons a small humanoid pixie, who floats behind and above the player's head. If the player remains idle for several seconds, the pixie will relax, putting its feet on the player's head.
When in combat, the pixie will equip a bow and fire arrows skyward. While these arrows deal no damage, when the arrow leaves the screen it spawns a cluster of falling stars. These stars home in on enemies, and deal significant damage. The Pixie summon benefits from any and all Summon modifiers, as well as Ranged modifiers.
That's how I would format it
I also added a little personal flavor, hope you don't mind
Whichever of the three "final components" you pick ultimately determines where it will be acquired in the game, as well as its overall power
i like the summon/ranged hybrid thing
Yeah it makes it kind of a summoner's accessory while also being viable for rangers
@rigid schooner
just so you remember this
anything to make summoner more viable makes me happy
When the abyss of Terraria terrifies you
I still can't finish it cause I'm a wimp 
also one thing about abyss
slips hat sideways
the reaver shark just kool aids his way in
oh yeah, summoner's getting support alrite
:3c
@hushed night I'm sorry, the Abyss is meant to be scary, or at least spooky
Would be odd to have Voidstone appear anywhere outside the Abyss considering its so intrinsically related
Glad to hear the biome is having the intended effect though, lol
I love the Abyss
damn it my heART CANT HANDLE THIS
it's one of the biomes that accurately portrays Thalassophobia
Turn the gamma on your monitor to 600
The fear of the ocean isn't what you can see
It's what you can't see
My mind goes overdrive in dark places
and as a person with an overactive imagination it makes it like 20 times worse
Well man, mine the voidstone from outside the abyss
Has anyone suggested changing the Suspicious Jelly Bean's mount appearence to be changed to Astrageldon? Think it'd be a cool callback to that thing.
Cheatsheet lighthack fully illuminates every block
Suspicious Looking Jelly Bean is a dev thing
If you still can't handle it just cheat in the voidstone
It doesn't have a use other than decoration anyway
im not a filthy cheater, and the friend who owns the server most likely wont allow cheat sheet
ill remember that when im playing single player though just in case
Then get the friend to do it smh don't have a heart attack
You could hop on a singleplayer world and bring the Voidstone in from there
theres a way you can mine it outside of the abyss so perhaps me and my friend could do that once we reach hardmode
i refuse
It's really not cheating tbh
^
Especially if you can mine it
at least, in my multiplayer world
It just saves time and spookage
It's just furniture, not a big deal
I'm sure your friend will understand
you could be correct, thanks
I cheat in polished voidstone etcetera all the time when I start a world
it looks so good though
..that's the point
I cheat it in because it looks much better than making a wood prison
and then getting mini temple room 
oh wait, you can just use actuators to expand the temple 
Also doesn't stop people from putting Golem in a baby-cage within the temple.
Make golem phase through blocks
Problem solved 
You ever just lose a Golem fight because he phases through the temple and falls into hell?
Aw man I hate it when that happens
Golem just has too many ways to be cheesed. A simple platform near the roof of the altar room makes the fight stupidly easily.
add sans as a bossfight
Is that
there's quite literally a mod that adds sans as a boss fight
O rlly
also, Ravager exists and people meme on it for being a "sans golem"
man the mods are patient tonight
Wrong channel, Spect
💦
#general-talk would be better
Suggestion : you fight urself
I'm... er
you wanna take a crack at art for a suggestion? I'm trying to do it myself but I'm awful
it's armor, so it's pretty small
What's the suggestion?
I haven't gotten the chance to write it out fully, but I'll dm it you
To fully sheet, yes
but just doing a standing still frame isn't super hard
yeah I only am trying to craft a single standing still frame
I don't need this animated
@vestal comet that can actually be quite bad as it is easily possible for world gen to screw you over. I've had a world where there was a wall of lihzahrd brick at the temple room entrance
had to use rod 
RoD is unusable in temple pre-golem afaik
Only pre plant
ah
Blastforge Visage
"Seethes with hatred"
Hardmode Armor
Molten Helmet + 3 Unholy Cores + 20 Brimstone Slag
11 Defense
10% increased melee damage
Melee attacks inflict Brimstone Flames
Blastforge Cuirass
"Seethes with hatred"
Hardmode Armor
Molten Breastplate + 5 Unholy Cores + 40 Brimstone Slag
16 Defense
10% DR
10% increased melee speed
Blastforge Greaves
"Seethes with hatred"
Hardmode Armor
Molten Greaves + 4 Unholy Cores + 30 Brimstone Slag
13 Defense
10% increased melee damage
15% increased movement speed
Set Bonus: Increases melee and movement speed by 10%
Once per life: Prevent death by transmuting your body to rock, dramatically slowing the player's move speed and use time, as well as halving their maximum life until death. In exchange, the player's life is restored by 100, and their DR is set DR to 99%. This DR bonus lasts three seconds and then is removed, along with the speed and use time debuffs.
I'm going to be putting upt his suggestion but I want input on the mechanics
because I don't typically do melee
the intent of this armor is to be two things
- A better-than-hallowed set exclusive for melee
- A set that plays off of the "burnt to ash" aesthetic of the Brimstone Crag, going so far as to turn the player's head into a facsimile of the brimstone elemental's, complete with the single eye.
i think a charred ore set would be cool actually
Should I just reword everything to being less specific
Why?
like instead of saying "X melee damage" it's just "increases melee damage"
I dunno, I don't know if this is balanced or not for the point where you get it
Dev team will balance it regardless of what you put
I don't understand how this is better than hallowed
@marsh fiber That sounds horrible ngl
isn't hallowed melee's main selling point the big melee speed boost?
@marsh fiber Boss suggestions mean no suggestions to add bosses, You're good.
well let's sum all this up... melee hallowed set is 50 defense, 19% melee speed, 7% critical strike chance, 7% damage and 27% movement speed
but youre saying, lets make golem an rng battle
isn't it like almost 30% melee speed?
the head piece gives 10% and the set bonus is almost 20% iirc
melee haste = melee speed btw
blastforge is 40 defense, 20% melee damage, 10% dr, 25% melee speed, 25% movement speed, causes melee attacks to inflict brimstone flames (40 hp loss/second) and has a built in "revive on death"
we need throwing equilvilants of all the hardmode armors or im gonna throw a fucking hissy fit
comparing those two side by side blastforge is clearly better by a wide margin
first of all, I'm only seeing 20% melee speed on blastforge
second of all, hallowed has 29% melee speed boost
and hallowed gives 17% dmg
and 17% crit
why you trying to make hallowed look weak? 
aagh I'm an idiot
no I'm not
I just didn't take the helmet into consideration
shit, hang on
o o f
the armor is cool and all, but I wouldn't say hallowed is completely inferior
That's all I was trying to say
you may also want to compare it to chloro
melee hallowed set (actually) is 50 defense, 29% melee speed, 17% critical strike chance, 17% damage and 27% movement speed
I think
checking again to make sure...
that looks better
yeah it is, okay... christ
unless you got def wrong but who cares
nah that I did get correct
chlorophyte is... 56 defense, 21% damage, 21% critical strike chance, 5% movement speed and leaf crystal set bonus
which is roughly... 118 extra dps
the crystal
don't bother with turtle, the offensive bonuses are weaker than all 3
it's a tanking armor
yeah
the important comparison I think is to compare this set to chloro and hallowed
it -has- to be stronger than hallowed
and it can maybe compete with chloro
I'm not saying it -is- stronger than hallowed now
I wouldn't say has to be. I've seen an old video of someone using hallowed on ml for melee speed bonuses 
because I'm not sure about that now
the melee speed bonus on hallowed is almost as good as beetle
I think it should keep that niche
I would say blastforge is better than hallowed by a little bit, simply because it can compete with its dps, has built in DR, and has the brimstone flames bonus
as well as the extremely early "revive on death" bonus
yeah, it sounds like early revive is one of its main selling points
I assume nebulous core revive would take precedence?
Oh we're doing armour now
Rover does sprites?
On occasion
hey man if you ever want some more practice lemme know
Like
quite-distanced-apart occasions :|
your first try at armor was pretty good
Thanks man
Rover plz, your making everyone else look bad
woah two armor suggestions back to back
Crab
Yeah, saw armour and decided to retry my hand at crab
That's epic
Oop aight
yeah this aint the turtle
wait a minute...
okay so I want to refer you to a particular case that you could compare this to
the Sand Elemental
the sand elemental always drops one forbidden fragment
and the forbidden set requires one forbidden fragment per piece
do you see where I'm going with this?
Yes..?
either reduce the cost of its mats or increase the amount of mats you get per kill
1-3 (+1-2 for Ex+) ?
sorry if it looks like I'm laying into you, but I like the suggestion enough to try and improve it with you
All good 👍
Aight
There should perhaps be an award for killing the boss before leviathan has been defeated
maybe victide materials
More than the Cnid?
definitely, this is much stronger than cnid
ah okay
let's say.... 4-6 of each component
so 4-6 victory shards, 4-6 coral, etc.
it can stop dropping these things after leviathan dies, or it can continue to drop them
That's only up to double that of the Cnid (1-3) and this thing has nearly 4x the health
Oh yes?
I was going to suggest that it drops the IOU an item
That works
At a rare chance, though, else it could be Zerged
(I don't really think that works)
(oof never mind)
(I was thinking post-mech it drops it at 5-10%, if at all, but a no works just fine)
I ain't the supreme opinion, but IOU is just a middleman preventing you from getting Leviathan's drops too early
hmm
I don't really think anything else should drop it but Leviathan
I think I know what -might- be dropped
gimme a sec
Smasher Claw
"Lot of meat in the claw!"
Pre-hardmode True Melee Weapon
Drops from Smasher
A large crab claw with crab meat sticking out of where it was detached. Has the standard look of the Sulphurous Sea.
The Smasher Claw is a large weapon, similar in size to Earth. It deals very high damage for pre-hardmode, rivalling the Night's Edge, with very high knockback. However, it swings slowly, making it cumbersome to use to make up for its relative power.
simple weapon that it might drop
or what if it was a flail
Flinging the claw around on the end of a meaty string
I'm joking, by the way
that works too
nah I thought of that
I mean the description is "lot of meat in the claw", and... have you eaten crab before?
Nope
the general gist is that most of the meat is in the legs and claws
so it's entirely feasible you could sling around a crab claw with a string of meat
look at the texture, that's stringy
eich
what? that's good eating, that is
How high would the knockback be?
like... I don't know what weapon to compare it to
Golem Fist?
yeah, maybe golem fist
Or
With no ranged attacks it'd be pretty easy to cheese
let devs decide the exact numbers
that's true
sirens existence doesn't prove anything and lore's getting all changed anyway
Siren's literally a merwoman and dang, thats sad
There are many unique entities in the Calamity universe, especially bosses, and their existence does not inherently imply an entire species of similar or equivalent beings.
sirens just a lonely, stinky fish
Isn't amidais going to be an npc
although more town NPCs of various species would be fun ;c
aka: the fish king himself?
does yharon have a music box?, I like the vocal theme of his second phase but it woulding give me a music box off it, just dodge him for an hour stright and he just ended up dying from my contact damage and my music box was still blank.
Some of the music boxes don't exist yet
And don't suggest them, they will come when the sprites are ready
Even though RotJD is the most impactful song in the game imo, I already know the devs are more than likely not prioritizing it rn
‘Spray and pray’
Especially compared to all the other themes
why
THIS IS MY MESSAGE
I mean, it only plays for 25% of a ~150% HP boss fight
Its actually possible for a player to never even hear it lol
It plays for the entire phase 2
It was changed
If any of y'all want to tweak the Crab suggestion, ping me, as I'm re-muting this channel
uwu
oh shit my suggestion got 134 stars 👀
The exo spear has 120 on my end?
ALSO THANK YOU FOR SUGGESTING A GOOD WEAPON FOR THE BEST SUBCLASS 
You never interact with sirens civ because they live in the deep ocean ya nerd
Checkmarks mean
Absolutely nothing past the first one
Of any type
ah ok
Not sure what thats about
I know lifesteal got nerfed via delays like that, but I don't think that's accurate
I coulda sworn illust still was just constant anyway
But gave less
That last ones hard to read, but I get it
I dont know if auric helm buffing all melee including its projectiles would be too powerful though
i timed it, only ever get healed every 25 seconds, i mean it heals ALOT once every 25 seconds but with that gap between healing, it becomes unreliable in boss fights where you can go from full to dead in a few seconds.
Well shit then
It sounds worse
Not just any hit
a REALLY REALLY bad hit
that will probably oneshot you
I'd rather just burn a bit with Chaos State
It ruins the point of RoD, especially in NoHit fights
should it be on a timer and you only take slightly more damage then?
like -10 defense or something
Still sounds undesirable but I suppose it'd have its uses
With the buffs itd give I can see people maybe using it
Depends on how good those buffs are tbh
I wonder if the mods are able to check every single suggestion sent to them
I mean its like 5-10 suggestions per day that are sent
@primal halo Your latest suggestion is vastly overpowered for nohits 
tho most likely fab wont add an item that acts like RoD
it seems more like it just gives buffs while chaos state active, but yeah
-15 defense only with those stat boosts is ludicrous tho
compare to Reaper Tooth Necklace
Compare to Everclear*
?
!wiki everclear
That's a better comparison in this case.
-15 defense that late in the game is really just taking 7 damage less, which barely matters when the first post-ML boss deals over 100 damage with all its attacks
reduces life regen by 20
Is it even possible to balance that out??
So its not negative regen, I mean
christ, blastforge armor's only been up for three hours
in the middle of the night
and it's already at 30

toasty
But Blood Relic exists.
But that's hardmode 
And you absolutely need money though before?
No but it's nice to have and tbh Money Trough isn't even on defiled's list of items with an increased drop rate
Sure.
Hot
The illustrious knives are only healing 150 every 25 seconds even thou the empyrean knives healed 57 every 3.5 seconds for scal
So?
the illustrious knives are supposed to be a post scal upgrade of the post-yharon empyrean knives yet the empyrean knives heal WAY better.
So?
an weapon that meant to be an upgrade heals 1/3 as much as its previous version.


