suggestions-discussion

[potent veldt]

I do, but the farming for such needed materials still should be spread

[ashen warren]

Ravager: exists

Moot point

[lost agate]

Ravager is basically a moving loot bag rn lol

[potent veldt]

Ravager dropping so much also makes no sense.

[lost agate]

Why not?

[hollow shell]

Would you rather he not?

[potent veldt]

Him dropping luminite makes the least sense though.

[hollow shell]

I'm frickin grateful

[ashen warren]

Ok you're a troll

[hollow shell]

Naaah

Just an arguer

like ijones

[ashen warren]

that's kinda a troll tbh

[potent veldt]

A giant deity from the MOON drops luminite, and so does a boss of mechanical flesh?

[hollow shell]

I feel like there's a good difference

Nah nobody was suggesting that Luminite drop from Ravager

it was just being used as a point against your idea that material drops should be spread

[potent veldt]

My bad then

[lost agate]

Btw a moon deity and aureus arent the same thing

[potent veldt]

They both came from space.

[heady comet]

Ijones is cool though. Comparing ijones to him is an insult

[hollow shell]

Aureus and Ravager are kinda similar now that I think about it

[frosty kindle]

ijones is cool even when he complains about monowall

[ashen warren]

ijones can be an ass sometimes but they're like that friend that you love to hate

[lost agate]

Last time i said that i got assaulted by fab @hollow shell

[radiant meadow]

I monowall tbh

[hollow shell]

o lol

[radiant meadow]

I consider aureus to be more like crab tbh

[hollow shell]

He is very Crabulon-like yes

[potent veldt]

They both look similar?

[hollow shell]

Behaviorwise mostly

[potent veldt]

But Aureus literally is made of metal and is from space.

Hell, it makes more sense for him to drop luminite than it does for ML to.

[hollow shell]

Heh

[lost agate]

The strat i used for rav and aureus are pretty similar

[hollow shell]

You can suggest that if you want
(as in, replace your current suggestion with that)

I'll put a blue check on it but it'll be there

[potent veldt]

But it still makes more sense for astral to be the lunar-farm

[ashen warren]

Btw there's an astrageldon pin

[lost agate]

Btw just came back from nohitting aureus and i can tell you that slime is a joke compared to him

[potent veldt]

They're both jokes

[lost agate]

No

[ashen warren]

Basically it says that astra is not being added at all ever, not even in apothmod

[radiant meadow]

aureus spawns are annoying

[lost agate]

A joke with 90 attempts to nohit

While slime was like 8

[potent veldt]

Slime was like 2 for me

[hollow shell]

Yeah
not hard

[ashen warren]

odd flex but ok

[hollow shell]

Jokably forgettable

[potent veldt]

And Aureus was not easy to nohit, but easy to beat

Which in a playthrough is all that matters.

[lost agate]

Not really

The fun is what really matters

[hollow shell]

I've only fought him once in a playthrough so I can't really comment

[lost agate]

If a boss is fun, no matter the difficulty, it has done well

[ashen warren]

The boss before astrum was always meant to not be super hard HOWEVER this is not pertaining to the suggestion

[potent veldt]

My biggest issue here is the lack of "why".

[ashen warren]

Which is making aureus drop luminite and adding slime back and making it drop fragments

[lost agate]

Why what?

[potent veldt]

Why Astralgel WONT come back.

[ashen warren]

Because he's a terrible boss?

Sprite was nice but otherwise

[potent veldt]

Then remake the fight??

[lost agate]

Because he was a joke as you said

[hollow shell]

The Astral biome was redesigned to be more serious and it now has a more defined theme
Slime was redesigned into Aureus to fit the theme

Astrum Aureus is a big improvement over the slime, and borrows some of its behaviors and all of its purpose

[lost agate]

@potent veldt and what do you think aureus is?

[hollow shell]

Slime would have no place anymore

[potent veldt]

Slime itself could just have different ways of hurting you

Hell, make its minions actually annoying

[hollow shell]

Like Aureus Spawn?

[potent veldt]

Make its minions spread when left out too long

Like an infection

[lost agate]

You mean multiply?

[hollow shell]

Like, walk away from you?

[potent veldt]

Multiply, sure

[hollow shell]

I mean

alright

[lost agate]

That would be a lag fest

[ashen warren]

Big ball of slime vs robot from space is easy contest tbh

[lost agate]

For no real reason

[ashen warren]

One is way cooler

[potent veldt]

Its not a suggestion about "make astral cooler"

[ashen warren]

It's better mechanically
It's better thematically
It's better sprite-wise

[lost agate]

Its more fun even

[ashen warren]

mechanically

[lost agate]

Uh

[heady comet]

all subjective your opinions dont matter

[potent veldt]

Sprite-wise
Someone made a really kickass sprite for astralgel not too long ago in the art server
Mechanic-wise
Multiply for the minions with a cap to how many at any given time and give them projectiles so you HAVE to worry about them. Make Astralgel himself have more health and more interesting projectiles.
Thematically-wise
Please read the sprite comment.

[ashen warren]

They did have projectiles
It's a slime

[hollow shell]

I mean
That sprite is gonna have to be animated

[potent veldt]

Its a slime.

[lost agate]

Except the sprite wasnt implemented and your mechanics werent either?

[heady comet]

Is this a boss suggestion yet

[hollow shell]

I mean

... kinda

I don't know if this is hinging on not breaking the rules or if it's especially breaking the rules

[lost agate]

Ok i see where this is going lol

[hollow shell]

also fuck I thought you were Mrrp, Apple

[lost agate]

Mrrapple

[heady comet]

[potent veldt]

Im mostly just sad that theres options to fix things that I know wont be taken because no one likes another slime boss

[ashen warren]

It's adding a boss so yea it's breaking rules tbh

[hollow shell]

There's nothing being "fixed" by adding him back, lol

[ashen warren]

"no one likes another slime boss" Then what was the point of this whole escapade

[potent veldt]

To try my hand at a suggestion that made sense to me, what other reason is there for almost any suggestion ever here?

[ashen warren]

Suggestions should really be what people genuinely want in the mod

[hollow shell]

Well, other suggestions aren't about Astrageldon Slime

[ashen warren]

Not "just cause"

[potent veldt]

I made it because I wanted it.

[hollow shell]

(tbh a lot of suggestions are "just cause")

[ashen warren]

^ big problem imo

[hollow shell]

Most fulfill some kind of purpose tho

[potent veldt]

Yes, this one is spread loot and make farming easier.

[ashen warren]

"I made it because I wanted it" "no one likes another slime boss"

Troll confirmed tbh

[potent veldt]

One of those was sarcasm.

[hollow shell]

Well, you'd make farming harder by spreading the loot

[potent veldt]

Not really?

[hollow shell]

and yeah the crossed out bit was sarcastic, Sequence

It was him sayin our pov

[potent veldt]

Spreading the loot isnt honestly an issue

[lost agate]

You waste more time farming if the loot is spread

[potent veldt]

Farming lunar and luminite were mainly annoying in vanilla because individually they took too long.

[lost agate]

And they were spread

[ashen warren]

Troll not because contradict
Troll because they expect the devs to bow to like one person and add a terrible meme of a boss

[potent veldt]

I dont expect you to.

[hollow shell]

Well, you didn't need to farm them in vanilla as much as you do in Calamity
which is why Aureus drops the fragments

[ashen warren]

then why suggest it come on

[potent veldt]

Thats why I didnt just say "Hey add Astral because I played your game"

I said reasons

[hollow shell]

There have been many suggestions for adding a new way to get Luminite because the ML farming sucks

[potent veldt]

I know.

[hollow shell]

Aureus could drop em

that's an option

[lost agate]

But other than that.... Eh

[potent veldt]

And I prefer it to be spread. So I suggested it.

[hollow shell]

others have suggested a mineable Luminite meteor
others others have suggested Luminite ore underground
others others others have suggested Luminite-dropping space enemies

all after ML of course

I just fuckin
I just want one of them to get in

[potent veldt]

Obviously, yeah

[hollow shell]

That, and a way to get Cosmilite easier

[potent veldt]

I do too, bud

[hollow shell]

the DoG farming is even worse

[potent veldt]

Make a way to have a shorter, harder, seperate DOG boss fight, idfk

[lost agate]

With aureus theme luminite would be a great idea

[hollow shell]

DoU

[potent veldt]

nAY

[ashen warren]

Tbh I don't find the luminite/cosmilite farm too bad because they give strong weapons that you can use to beat them and it's a reason to fight a fun boss

[lost agate]

Or maybe AD could be the one dropping luminite or the shards instead

Give AD some glory too

[hollow shell]

You're right

[potent veldt]

AD could be the cosmolite one tbh

Harder after DOG

[hollow shell]

Hm

both

[lost agate]

I dont... Know about that one

Im pretty sure cosmilite and AD are pretty separate things

[potent veldt]

Fair enough

[hollow shell]

You can
delete your Astragel suggestion at any time. It'd be good to, to free up space for others

It won't get starred, I'm sorry

[heady comet]

nuuu

[sleek wadi]

Has anyone suggested Astrum Deus dropping Cosmolite yet?

[lost agate]

But yeah, it would be cool to have aureus drop shards and AD luminite or the other way around

[ashen warren]

Having aureus drop like 20 ore per kill is 5 bars which matches most calamity stuff

And doesn't make it an easy farm

[hollow shell]

Thank you Dark

[ashen warren]

I don't see why fab doesn't want a better luminite farm

Even if it doesn't impact me it impacts almost everybody else

[hollow shell]

Alright I've got this new idea
Mini-Celestial Sigil

We've got Aureus to skip the long-ass Lunar Event by having him drop the fragments, right?
So, instead of using those fragments to make a Celestial Sigil and do the big ole Moon Lord fight again and again
you instead can craft a cheaper version which summons a weaker Moon/Eldritch kind of creature, which drops a good amount of Luminite (not as much as Moon Lord, but decent enough to farm)

[lost agate]

Because he wants people to get sniped tbh

So like the sand shark?

[hollow shell]

What is Sand Shark used to farm for?

[sleek wadi]

Boss Rush reward is an item that generates stacks of luminite :

[lost agate]

No i mean, as in being a summoneable miniboss

[hollow shell]

Ah, yes

[lost agate]

Inb4 mini boss is ML legs

[rich wagon]

lmao

[sleek wadi]

ML Legs' attacks include tap dancing to try and kill you

[ashen warren]

A luminite meteor that drops when you beat the pillars and ML sounds good (as in not when you beat ML with the sigil)

Eldritch mini-boss sounds like the best way tho

[lost agate]

Oooh

What about something like an eldritch archmage or something

[ashen warren]

...

Lunatic cultist

[lost agate]

Fuck

[sleek wadi]

What about a planetoid that looks like a cresent moon, and in that moon there is a chest that only opens up after ML which contains loads of Luminite

Not with a key or anything

[lost agate]

Nah that would be too easy

[rich wagon]

how about....

A Lunatic Cultist post-ML that drops luminite, it's harder, and doesn't start events

u use an item to summon it

[hollow shell]

AD

[rich wagon]

similar to the sigil

oh ok then nvm

[hollow shell]

lol

[sleek wadi]

Holy shit so you know how the other spread biomes have a mimic? Maybe we give Astral one, and post-ML it gets really buffed and drops Luminite

[frosty kindle]

and possibly fragments?

[ashen warren]

I liked the concept of future bosses tbh

[rich wagon]

lunar enemies

[hollow shell]

Too bad they came way way way too early and sucked

[rich wagon]

in the astral biome

[sleek wadi]

Came too early and were for end-game bosses

[ashen warren]

Astral mimic is a neat idea

[hollow shell]

I meant like in terms of Calamity development

[lost agate]

Why do you all wanna leave AD forgotten ;_;

[rich wagon]

Star mentioned it

[ashen warren]

If future bosses were added after the rest of the normal boss progression is added I think that would be a good spot

[potent veldt]

AD could have luminite

[ashen warren]

Slime god superboss tbh

[quasi fable]

Why would you need luminite though

[rich wagon]

post-ml gear

[potent veldt]

wHY?

[sleek wadi]

Because it's in fucking everything post-ml

[quasi fable]

Uhm i thoufhr of lumenyl

[hollow shell]

lol

[potent veldt]

pfft

[lost agate]

[hollow shell]

It could have been worse
Lumenyl was going to be named "Lumenite"

[sleek wadi]

Converting lumenyl to luminte when

[lost agate]

[potent veldt]

Do it

[hollow shell]

I mean

it wouldn't be entirely unfitting

it drops from Eidolists
which have a connection to Moon Lord

[sleek wadi]

Eidolists could drop Luminite directly

[hollow shell]

Perhaps

[ashen warren]

Would eidolon wyrms dropping luminite be a good idea?

[lost agate]

Lumenyl and iron at an alchemy table?

[hollow shell]

Hhmmmmeeehhmmm

[ashen warren]

1 Lumenyl + 3 stardust + 1 whatever the name of the planetoid ore is at ancient manip

Keeps it post-ML

[sleek wadi]

Only issue is that Exodium isn't renewable

[lost agate]

Exodium cluster is limited tho

[ashen warren]

That's why only 1 of each for each bar smh

[rich wagon]

yeah

[frosty kindle]

then make it 1 exodium + (as little/many of other lumenyl and stardust you want/need) = 25 luminite?

[sleek wadi]

The suggestion would work if we got an enemy that dropped clusters but that's a whiles away

[frosty kindle]

therefore exodium isnt consumed too quickly

[ashen warren]

6 bars + 1 ore per cluster

Bit high imo but if that's what the people want

[rich wagon]

make exodium craftable

The solution to everything is to make it craftable

[ashen warren]

Though lumenyl drops really commonly so maybe have it that it requires a lot of that

Why make an ore craftable?

Add an exodium ufo smh

[devout seal]

Why not have a miniboss that drops luminite and the fragments?

[heady comet]

A new miniboss?

[devout seal]

If we want something that drops luminite and the celestial fragments.

[potent veldt]

The luminite pillar

[heady comet]

That would mean an entirely new sprite would have to be made for it. I think that would be too much effort for something that just drops luminite and fragments

[tulip parcel]

Baned Heart Artifact
“Wrath”
Post-Moonlord Accessory
15 Exodium Clusters + 3 Calamitous Essence + Draedon’s Heart @ Demon Altar

A beating heart, blackened and sickly, oozing orange blood.

Retains all Draedon’s Heart effects.

While equipped, the rage bar is modified to an aesthetic similar to the heart, as well as gaining 50% more to its maximum.

Heart Attack debuff changes to Spiteful Silence, tripling the effects of Heart Attack.

Rage is changed as a mechanic while the Baned Heart Artifact is equipped. While it still drains at the same rate as before, it deals less damage. However, it additionally causes damage the user deals to fill the rage meter while rage mode is active. This new rage is spent to keep the rage meter burning. Additionally, if the user is hit while raging, their rage meter depletes 66% of its current amount rather than simply ending rage mode. To compensate for this boon, a hit while raging also decreases maximum health by 100 until death, akin to the Silva affect.

How does this look?

[faint rivet]

Interesting imo

[ashen warren]

mhm except maybe the -100 hp part

[faint rivet]

Well, it's fully optional to use

Kind of a nohit accessory that you might even swap out once the rage runs out and only use it as a starting burst for a fight

[ashen warren]

Bit late but why is it called "heart artifact" when all the others are soul?

Baned soul artifact actually sounds better to me imo

Cursed soul artifact works as well imo

[tulip parcel]

Oh are they all soul?... shit they are

Okay Baned soul

[ashen warren]

Otherwise I like the concept of a draedon's heart upgrade

where are the laudanum stat buffs

[tulip parcel]

Tbh I wonder if making a separate accessory for a few of the “increase damage” accessories is a good idea

Like the stress pills, laudanum, aerostone, etc

[ruby cobalt]

Aero Stone already has an accessory.

[tulip parcel]

Also wow star stone got high quick

Yeah I guess

[ashen warren]

Oh wow 48 stars

In a few hours too

[fossil torrent]

My melee suggestion is at 40

[tulip parcel]

Less than that it’s been what

[fossil torrent]

Don’t think it’ll get to 50

[tulip parcel]

Seven hours

[fossil torrent]

Yours will definetively

You make a lot of great suggestions

Should get role ”suggestion man”

[faint rivet]

[frail mantle]

[fossil torrent]

Made suggestion about suggestion

[frail mantle]

suggestions about suggestions

[spark flax]

i need to get back into the suggestion game

[tulip parcel]

Time to start printing meme suggestions

[fossil torrent]

now i said the word so much it sounds weird

[spark flax]

but i can see vorbis, sequence, and myself, amongst others getting the suggestion trust role

[tulip parcel]

“Make slime king easier on normal”

[ashen warren]

omgoshmethankyou

[spark flax]

suggestion suggestion suggestion suggestion it doesn't even look like a word anymore

[tulip parcel]

...wait fuck Bradley did that

[fossil torrent]

” 🅱 alinut Flail”

[frail mantle]

You mean GBradley?

[ruby cobalt]

*whistles*

[tulip parcel]

“🅱enis 🅱laster:”

[fossil torrent]

like bol o fugu but fires 20 projectiles per swing

[spark flax]

ball of fugu already fires that many projectiles they just all suck

[tulip parcel]

Drh I knoooow

I’ve been here long enough im just messing around

Smh

[ashen warren]

All role suggestions are jokes? that's a bit silly but eh

[ruby cobalt]

Yeah, and you're in the clear.

Some other ginormous brain isn't.

The one that already was muted.

[tulip parcel]

Like gbradley?

I can’t check who was muted

I’m on phone

[frail mantle]

Gbradley was funny, in the way that no one knew what the fuck he was talking about

[tulip parcel]

I don’t think that’s asking for roles

Though suggestion man is an awkward name

[ruby cobalt]

P sure it looks that way to me.

[frail mantle]

Trusted suggester

[tulip parcel]

I think asking for roles is more like “make me mod”

Like asking personally

[spark flax]

yeah, that makes sense

[tulip parcel]

This is a suggestion -for- a role

[spark flax]

...god holy shit gbradley actually did suggest making king slime easier on normal lmao

[ruby cobalt]

"add a role"
"Why."
"ADD A ROLE"
"Why?"
"SO WE HAVE MORE ROLES AND PEOPLE FEEL MORE ACCOMPLISHED"
"But why?"
"REEEE"

[tulip parcel]

I want a pretty colored name too

[ashen warren]

A trusted suggester role would be good for starring imo but that's about it

[spark flax]

mood
then again having it be given to specific people would be unreliable and arbitrary

[ashen warren]

i hunt these channels like a hawk

[tulip parcel]

Yeah like a soft cooldude role

Maybe make it yellow

[ashen warren]

Devs would still add checks and send stuff to server cause nyeh

[frail mantle]

Make a role named “decent dude”

[ashen warren]

Wiki whatever is already yellow

[spark flax]

plus it might result in people making suggestions just to try and get the role

[tulip parcel]

Maybe like an orange

But it’s... yeah

I think we just need to go off name and rep alone

I got a bad rep

[spark flax]

yeah, people who have spent time in here already know who the Suggestions Crew is

[tulip parcel]

I’m a rebel with no sense of decency

Time to suggest drh be given the role “brainlet”

[faint rivet]

[ashen warren]

Vorbis please don't get warned

[spark flax]

vorbis died for our memes

[tulip parcel]

Nahhh that’s not gonna happen

I like drh and I’m pretty sure he likes me

At the very least he won’t be the one to scalp me

[faint rivet]

[spark flax]

trust nobody, not even cooldudes

[faint rivet]

I haven't known anyone in this discord long enough to trust

[spark flax]

also HEY VORBIS ARE YOU HYPE FOR PATRON ITEMS B/C I SURE AM

[tulip parcel]

Hell yeah

I got my popcorn ready

[spark flax]

i trust vorbis, sequence, and providab
that's about it

[tulip parcel]

You should be more careful in who you trust

🔪

[spark flax]

🗡

bring it binch

[faint rivet]

[tulip parcel]

🔫

But this is getting off topic isn’t it

Hmm

[spark flax]

yeah oof

quick think of a pre-moonlord thrown weapon

i'm sorry

[tulip parcel]

Popcorn

[spark flax]

made with a grenade and butter

[tulip parcel]

You throw individual pieces

[spark flax]

wait, is there butter in terraria?

[tulip parcel]

Pieces stick like lion fish

[ashen warren]

ok my mind just brainstormed a popcorn bag weapon why do you do this to me

[tulip parcel]

🍿

[faint rivet]

Ye let's put a popcorn bag in Terraria as a thrown item

[tulip parcel]

I used to get popcorn bags at the race track

[spark flax]

god, i'm
actually writing this

[tulip parcel]

They were as big as paper grocery bags

[ashen warren]

It would throw like 15 projectiles that inflict the "molten butter" debuff that acts like a damaging ichor i'm sorry

[spark flax]

i hate myself

[tulip parcel]

Why

It’s an alright idea

[faint rivet]

Molten butter

[ruby cobalt]

"yo Yharim you want some popcorn"

[tulip parcel]

Make the popcorn slow nonboss enemies

[spark flax]

that's a good idea, actually

[faint rivet]

Tbh make the enemies run towards the popcorn

[spark flax]

my idea rn is that upon hitting enemies repeatedly with it, the popcorn sticks and gets bigger

[tulip parcel]

I would have written this idea but I’m slow, on phone and lazy

[spark flax]

and then after getting enough popcorn pellets on an enemy they all pop

[tulip parcel]

Oh so like uhh

[spark flax]

deals a big damage and heals you a bit because mmm popcorn

[tulip parcel]

The whatsits from binding of isaac

[spark flax]

YEAH!

[tulip parcel]

Dunno if you played that

[spark flax]

my guy i beat every boss with the lost

[tulip parcel]

Yeah you know what I mean

[spark flax]

it's the only roguelike i'm something approaching good at

i'm horrible at nuclear throne and cotnd lmao

[tulip parcel]

Risk of rain

[ashen warren]

Risk of Rain, Enter the Gungeon and Dead Cells are my current favourite roguelikes

[tulip parcel]

I’d like to point out that a weapon where the gist is “throw popcorn at an enemy” is being taken seriously as an idea

[ashen warren]

Haven't really gotten into isaac yet

[spark flax]

excuse you

[tulip parcel]

That’s just funny to me

[spark flax]

enchanted popcorn

[tulip parcel]

Sorry

[ashen warren]

Bought from wizard?

[tulip parcel]

No

Bought from the uh

[spark flax]

brought from party girl

[tulip parcel]

Yeah

Give her the popcorn in hardmode

[spark flax]

thrown needs more fun stuff in early hardmode, i'm cool w/ this

[ashen warren]

"I make a rather enchanting hot chocolate if you'd be inter... No? Ok." hot chocolate weapon

Make it happen

[tulip parcel]

Hmm

[spark flax]

true melee weapon

you hit them with a mug of hot choco

[tulip parcel]

...

[faint rivet]

[tulip parcel]

This is mine now

Because I just got an idea

[spark flax]

go for it

[ashen warren]

Makes me think of the escapists

Cup of molten choc is an insta-death

[tulip parcel]

The mug itself is a shortsword esque weapon that does 1 damage

But when you hit an enemy with it

You get a minute long buff that turns it into the magic chocolate lava blade

[spark flax]

this is silly

i love it

[faint rivet]

^

[tulip parcel]

Which does extreme damage, inflicts on fire and is true melee

Broadsword instead of shortsword

If you hit an enemy with it it refreshes the buff

[faint rivet]

I don't do melee but I'd star this purely bc of the concept

[spark flax]

im a true melee enthusiast, so

[tulip parcel]

If you let it sit for too long it reverts back to mug state and restores 100 hp

[spark flax]

Popcorn
Who enchanted a bag of popcorn?

What It Does: Flings tiny shots of popcorn that fly very fast in a slight arc and deal little damage. Upon hitting an enemy, the popcorn pellets stick to enemies similar to the lionfish for a few seconds before despawning. Hitting enemies with further pellet shots while one is stuck to them cause the original to grow larger. Once about eight or so pellets are stuck to an enemy, they explode, dealing high damage, healing the user a small amount, and inflicting Ichor as well as the Molten Butter debuff to enemies in the explosion, dealing damage over time and slowing non-boss enemies.

How It's Obtained: Sold by the Party Girl once Hardmode starts.

Why It Should Be Added: Thrown needs more fun early hardmode weapons, right now all they have is the hardmode ore consumables, Ichor Spear and its corruption equivalent, and the Spear of Paleolith. At the same time, the Party Girl sells few useful items, so giving her something new would be nice.

[ashen warren]

You're onto something but I think the sword should do something.. more

[tulip parcel]

The idea is that the mug is trying to repair itself with time magic

And you’re interrupting that by using it as a weapon

[rich wagon]

lmao "for example Vorbis"

ok

👌

[ashen warren]

I mean that true melee have on-hit effects

[rich wagon]

ooh

popcorn looks cool

[ashen warren]

Splash chocolate everywhere idk

[tulip parcel]

What if it heals you

[spark flax]

just use majestic guard lel

[tulip parcel]

Like burnt sienna but instead it’s globs of chocolate in the floor

[marsh gust]

food themed suggestion day?

[rich wagon]

we need an early-hardmode non-consumable throwing weapon

[tulip parcel]

On

[rich wagon]

reeeeee

[ashen warren]

Honestly if throwing were to have a new early-HM weapon I think that it should be like pwnage or valediction

[rich wagon]

hmmm

wait

[spark flax]

i don't like the pwnagehammer lol

[ashen warren]

Long range and veloctiy

I really like valediction

Pwnage is ok

The high damage/knockback is what makes it fun

[rich wagon]

should there be something before pwnage then

[spark flax]

the knockback is what makes it annoying imo

[rich wagon]

so that there is an option pre-mechs

[ashen warren]

Hold on, does throwing have an early HM piercing weapon?

[tulip parcel]

fuck me why am I getting outta bed to write hot chocolate

what am I doing with my life

okay

[faint rivet]

It's worth

[ashen warren]

They have the HM ore weapons... and the cursed dagger

Ouchy

[ruby cobalt]

Spear of Paleo.

[ashen warren]

It pierces now?

[marsh gust]

shadowflame dagger thing

[spark flax]

paleo doesn't pierce

[ruby cobalt]

It shits out more things, so it's kinda piercing.

[spark flax]

shadowflame is a melee weapon

[ashen warren]

Shadowflame knife is melee damnit lilith

[spark flax]

ichor spear has terrible damage output

[marsh gust]

wtf vanilla

[spark flax]

i know right

[marsh gust]

fix your game relogic

[ruby cobalt]

Ichor spear is just shit, yeah.

[spark flax]

my first suggestion on this server was a thrown shadowflame spiky ball weapon

it got 50 likes and i haven't heard about it since :c

[marsh gust]

sounds neat, but impractical

[spark flax]

but spiky balls are coooooool

[ashen warren]

Paleo spear is piercing when you use the daedalus armor

[spark flax]

does daedalus thrown armor not suck now

because last i checked it sucked ass

[ashen warren]

The exploding crystals

[ruby cobalt]

It still does, but it sucks less.

[spark flax]

disappointing but understandable

[ashen warren]

It's good for shredding destroyer even though he's a joke

[ruby cobalt]

The fucking shitcrystal spam was moved to when projectiles travel, not when they hit anything.

[tulip parcel]

Chronolocked Hot Chocolate
"It constantly refills, reverting back to the point in time it was made"
Hardmode Consumable
1 Melee Damage
Bought from Wizard at any time

A simple white ceramic mug of hot chocolate, steaming. When used as an item, the Chronolocked Hot Chocolate is swung like a weapon, but does nothing unless it hits a target. Using the Heal hotkey will drink Chronolocked Hot Chocolate if no healing potion of "Greater" or above is in the user's inventory. When drunk, the CHC restores 125 HP and grants the Warmth buff for two minutes. Note that the user has to heal using the hotkey for this effect, rather than being able to use it directly. This is because, when the item is swung as a weapon and it hits an enemy, it transforms, and applies the "Broken" debuff to the user...

[ashen warren]

And presumably also Aquatic Scourge

I like adding the cornucopia to calamity

[tulip parcel]

cornucopia?

[spark flax]

cornucopia 2.0: this time its weapon

[ashen warren]

https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Horn_o'_plenty

[spark flax]

cornu is item from.... mobile terraria version i think?

ye

[ashen warren]

Dunno if wiki command works for terraria wiki but I wasn't gonna risk it

[worthy fiber]

It does, just do !wiki !terraria <title>

[ashen warren]

Good to know, thanks 👍

[worthy fiber]

np

[tulip parcel]

Broken
"Let it fix itself!"
Debuff associated with the Chronolocked Hot Chocolate, merely meant to keep track of how long the user may use the Timewarped Caocao Anomaly for. Lasts 60 seconds.

Timewarped Caocao Anomaly
"It's trying to repair itself"
Hardmode True Melee Weapon
Temporary result of breaking the Chronolocked Hot Chocolate

A weird splash of searing hot chocolate, porcelain, steam and magic, roughly shaped like a sword. The mug handle serves as the grip. While the user has the "Broken" debuff, any Chronolocked Hot Chocolate in the user's inventory will instead be Timewarped Caocao Anomalies. Obviously this means that the user is unable to drink their hot chocolate while using the TCA. Hitting an enemy with the sword refreshes Broken.

The resulting weapon is a very high damage (for early hardmode) sword that inflicts On Fire and spawns small globs of chocolate whenever it hits an enemy, which fly in a high arc into the air. These globs stick to the ground akin to Providence's Molten Globs, and damage enemies that touch them. If a player touches them, the glob is absorbed and the player is healed for 10 HP.

If the user allows Broken to resolve, the TCA turns back into the CHC, reverting the item to its horn o' plenty-esque function. In addition, the user is healed for 100 HP, with no potion sickness.

is it too focused on heals?

[spark flax]

i like it, but it could be kind of overpowered given the healing output

especially early-HM

thenagainitstruemeleesoactuallyitshouldbefine

[tulip parcel]

mh, I'll debuff it by a factor of .8

so 8 HP per glob, 80 hp for letting it restore itself

[spark flax]

sounds reasonable

[tulip parcel]

...shit

I need to add one thing.

there

now you can have your legendary hot chocolate

[ashen warren]

when a joke becomes a weapon I'd actually like to see

[tulip parcel]

and now I attempt sleep

[subtle turret]

Illustrious Knives are only heal once every 25 seconds, in the Scal boss fight, my exoblade and empryea knives both healed 57-150 every 3 seconds or 570-1500 health every 25 seconds but my illustrious knives heal 700 only every 25 seconds, seems like a major down grade from empryea knives, its healing per second is 28 vs the exo/knives 19-50 despite being an upgrade, also since it heals in bulk,in scal where its vital to have a constant stream of healing (or be leviathan), healing for alot at once every 25 seconds instead of a good amount hear and there dosent help when it takes only 7 seconds to go from full to 0 and die. my suggestion would be to make it heal 150-300 every 4 seconds or a hps of 50-75 every second compared to the exo/knives 19-50 hp every second

[tired haven]

This is result of lifesteal cap, not weapons

Plus it already has significally better dps so losing a bit on lifesteal is no real matter

[spark flax]

i did the fight with no healing apart from natural healing and potions since i was running summoner (revengeance) while the hitcap was a thing and i pulled out fine, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[subtle turret]

i have slow reaction times thus bad at trying to not get hit in bullet hell so steady healing is needed for scal, even if the amount it heals isnt buffed, it could atleast be split to were it heals 5 times less but 5 times more often like every other healing weapons like the exoblade and emp knives. can on average get to the final phase of scal with exoblade and emp knives (and beat it, thus why i have illustrious knives) but with the illustrious knives, i die on the first or second phase (usally the first). melee build.

[gritty kiln]

The entire point of the Vampire Knives and their upgrades is the healing, not much point in using the Illustrious Knives if their healing is mediocre compared to a previous upgrade

[faint rivet]

Illustrious are a sidegrade of empyrean I believe

Like not a direct upgrade

[gritty kiln]

They do more dps at a much later stage of the game, if they aren't a direct upgrade in every way, shape and form then they should be

[subtle turret]

also it seems that most buffs for melee auric tesla armor only affects true melee, considering a good portion of endgame melee weapons shoot beams, it would be nice if the set bonuses affected both true melee and regular melee to some extent.

[faint rivet]

Not much later than empyrean

[gritty kiln]

I'd consider post SCal well above Darksun in time taken to reach it unless you're rushing through bosses

[faint rivet]

Well wiki page does state that the healing on illustrious is greater than on empyrean

[gritty kiln]

Not my suggestion anyway. I did notice even before the lifesteal cap that I barely got any healing with Illustrious Knives compared to other healing weapons from other mods or even the Empyrean or Vampire Knives

[subtle turret]

they take into account on the wiki how much it heals at once but not how much it heals on average per second. while it heals 756 compared to the emp knives 60ish, the illustrious knives only heal every 25-26 seconds second while the emp knives heal every 3 seconds. in that vastly long time gap between heals, you die very quickly to scal, the lesser but much more rapid healing on the emp knives works immensely better then the high but rare healing of the illustrious knives unless you are rarely ever hit.

[bitter flower]

night g

blossom flux

[faint rivet]

Single post please

[fossil torrent]

@clever scarab Golem has one

[bitter flower]

theres the blossom flux

[faint rivet]

Also where's the Legendary Summon by that logic

[fossil torrent]

Also blossom flux isn’t gunslinger

It’s a bow

Is a bow a gun?

[bitter flower]

they're the same class

[worthy fiber]

Gunslinger is a subclass

[bitter flower]

guns and bows are the same class

[fossil torrent]

Yes but people often do gunslinger or bowman playthrus

[bitter flower]

good point

[clever scarab]

Ya

[bitter flower]

makes sense

[fossil torrent]

Counts as subclass

[clever scarab]

So im just saying they could add one thats a gun for people that are only using guns as their weapon

[fossil torrent]

Similar to true melee or just normal melee

They could add it to Twins since that kinda fits with reti

[clever scarab]

Thats what i was actually about to say XD

[fossil torrent]

Also, a gun exoweapon is really a spot that should be used

[clever scarab]

Mhm

But one of my favorite looking weapona in the mod so far is the Voidragon

[ruby cobalt]

I'm feeling like straight up warning you for breaking at least 2 rules.

[round falcon]

legendary gun from bumblebirb tbh

[weary walrus]

Golem already have aegis blade @clever scarab

[fossil torrent]

drh NightG right

[weary walrus]

I know

[round falcon]

wait i was joking but now i actually have an idea for it

[fossil torrent]

Actually Yharon should have a legendary gun! That would fill the spot of both legendary gun and exotier gun!

What would be the flavor tho

Let me about this for a bit

[ruby cobalt]

Nuggets.

[fossil torrent]

Nuggets.

Nuggets?

ehhhh

[weary walrus]

The guardian?

[fossil torrent]

FIREBALL SHOTGUNHGH

hol on

[clever scarab]

Ignis blitz???

[round falcon]

Bumblaster
Dropped either as a Legendary or alternative drop
Works like a Pirahna Gun, but fires a Miniature Bumblebirb
This Bumblebirb inflicts Holy Flames on contact and rains burning feathers from the sky
Yall can take this concept further

[spark flax]

but

there's

no legendary weapons for launcher or flamethrower either???

and there's already a ranged legendary weapon

Blossom Flux

[fossil torrent]

we know lol

[spark flax]

if anything, there should be a legendary summon weapon, because there's none of those

[weary walrus]

Only 1 tho

[fossil torrent]

Melee has 3

[ruby cobalt]

No legendaries for rocket launchers, no flamethrowers, no summoners, fucking 2 swords and a flail

[weary walrus]

Sad right?

[clever scarab]

For the name if dropped by yharon could be Ignis Blitz or something like that

[weary walrus]

Mage have 2 but both are pre ml

[fossil torrent]

If melee has 3 why can’t a class with 4 PLUS different types of weapons have 2

[ruby cobalt]

But yeah, alright, hurghrhdurhdugrdguh, let's give the most broken class another legendary.

Also Mage only has 1 legendary, not 2.

[fossil torrent]

Ranged most broken?

Not for scal

[ruby cobalt]

Just take the door now before I start sifting through source code.

[faint rivet]

Mage has 2 legendaries according to the wiki.

[fossil torrent]

Yeah yeah

[clever scarab]

Ya

[ruby cobalt]

Yharim's Crystal isn't a legendary btw.

Just like Halibut isn't ranged's leg.

[faint rivet]

Vesuvius and SHPC

[ruby cobalt]

Oh yeah, Vesuvius.

You know, the weapon that nobody ever fucking uses?

[clever scarab]

Oof

[ruby cobalt]

Because it's exactly that bad?

And on top of that it's gated behind Betsy, and NOBODY does Betsy.

[weary walrus]

Sure

The buff is terrible and useless

[faint rivet]

Quite frankly didn't find out that it was a thing until I looked up the legendary items page

[ashen warren]

i did it once, just to collect it, but it really did feel underwhelming

[ruby cobalt]

See, there's the thing.

[weary walrus]

And it takes a lot of time to farm

[ruby cobalt]

It's so bad that it doesn't exist.

Yeah, sure, technically it is there, but it's in such awkward spot where a slightly better post-Golem meteor staff won't do shit.

[clever scarab]

You arent wrong brainlet tbh, barely anyone does that event

[heady rain]

betsy is the hardest vanilla bost tbh

[weary walrus]

Except for summoner

[ruby cobalt]

Oh, and summoner just exists.

It's kind of there.

[clever scarab]

Oh?

[faint rivet]

Summoner is there for SCal

[weary walrus]

???

[heady rain]

you have to deal with an invasion that ends in 5 minutes AND fight betsy

[ruby cobalt]

You have to deal with an invasion that has 7 waves and there's a 30s delay between them*

[heady rain]

by 5 minutes i mean 5 seconds

[ruby cobalt]

Unless you're a man of culture that uses Luiafk.

[heady rain]

if you dont protect the crystal

i said vanilla

[ruby cobalt]

In vanilla it just sucks balls.

[clever scarab]

Mhm

[ruby cobalt]

There's no incentive to do it other than "just do it".

[clever scarab]

You got a point there

[round falcon]

i just give myself a lot of etherian mana right at the start

[weary walrus]

I only do the event for the flying dragon

It’s a better one than terra blade

[ruby cobalt]

Aerial Bane is maybe good, but you know, the whole farming issue.

[clever scarab]

Ya....

[round falcon]

Aerial bane is decent enough against Fishbutt

[weary walrus]

The betsy curse is cool too

-40 def

[fossil torrent]

Literally did a vanilla playthru yesterday as Ranged, trying to focus on old one’s army.

Aerial Bane was underwhelming.

Tried to fight Duke with it, turns out Chain Gun is just straight up better.

And it just has so short range and is hard to aim correctly, it’s not even worth it.

[weary walrus]

Duh....

Ikr

Only real good loots are for melee

[fossil torrent]

Stick book is decent too

[weary walrus]

What is that?

A drop from orge?

[ashen warren]

Having it require Defender Medals kinda defeats the purpose

You aren't gonna want to do OOA unless you're summoner

unless the ooa weps were nerfed

[sleek wadi]

I was thinking a small amount of it

Like, 15 medals.

[ashen warren]

Still requires tier 1 twice or one tier 2

[weary walrus]

Just grind the medal before next tier is unlocked

[ashen warren]

It's not that OOA is hard

[weary walrus]

It’s easier to do in this way

[ashen warren]

It's that it's mindnumbingly boring

[weary walrus]

Sure

Heat ray will help speeding things up, a bit

[ashen warren]

Hence why I don't think it should use defender currency

[sleek wadi]

My thinking is that the event should be at least completed once before you can make the thing

[tired haven]

Ethereal mana is not available outside of event without hax
unless that's setup for most ambient crafting recipe ever

[ashen warren]

Eh, if it gets added I still won't fight betsy then

I can't be arsed to do OOA even once

[sleek wadi]

I could have it require 5 and you could just use those 5 you get from tavern keep

[weary walrus]

Wait how to get the mana outside the event?

[ashen warren]

You don't

[weary walrus]

So this mean you have to make this while the event is on?

[ashen warren]

Mana is deleted when the event fails or succeeds

[weary walrus]

Ikr

It’s a bit nonsense

[sleek wadi]

Mana isn't used in the recipe

[weary walrus]

Oops

Sorry

Crystal not mana

[tired haven]

Oh, my bad, crystals

🔫

[weary walrus]

My apologies

Oh hey crabboi

What’s your next plan for the next vid?

[tired haven]

Long awaited dad mode

[weary walrus]

;w;

Plantera tries ehh?

[tired haven]

and innocent kid stealing some paper next up
It's not the channel to talk about that tbh

[weary walrus]

Pm me

[tired haven]

No u

[weary walrus]

Pretty please

[alpine garnet]

I don't think provi needs to be that much easier, but if so I'd suggest making it normal/maybe expert

[faint rivet]

The guardians are like the least of anyone's worry during that fight assuming they have a homing weapon

[fossil torrent]

Vick in nohits they are REALLY a

[ashen warren]

Is that a meme Suggestion

[fossil torrent]

No

[warm rover]

they are easy to deal with

you have good enough weapons at that point

[fossil torrent]

Shiza go nohit it, then

ffs

[warm rover]

ok

[ashen warren]

javyz that suggestion is you just being a salty fuck from not being able to nohit it

[fossil torrent]

No

[ashen warren]

the fight's perfectly fine

[warm rover]

it's easy

[ashen warren]

nohitting providence is anything but easy.

[untold gulch]

^

[warm rover]

I don't mean nohitting the fight

lol

just the fight itself

[ashen warren]

I mean it doesn't constantly respawn

[warm rover]

not that hard

[ashen warren]

it's 3 times at very specific intervals, you know exactly when they're coming

[delicate raft]

Annoying =/= Hard

[hollow shell]

She spawns them
3 times

[warm rover]

annoying = time consuming

[hollow shell]

not uhh
233644 or whatever

[ashen warren]

70%, 40% and 10%

Epic facts sors

[fossil torrent]

How the hell do we make people that don't do nohits stop commenting about nohits like it's the exact same as killing the boss normally

[ashen warren]

Well don't make suggestions based on no hitting

The mod is designed around beating the bosses

No hitting is an optional challenge

[warm rover]

and nohitting shouldn't get easier

[fossil torrent]

The suggestion isn't solely based on my experience of nohitting it

[warm rover]

if you dat pro mega gamer

[fossil torrent]

It's based on how shitty it feels to constantly get guardians respawning and having the boss invincible, it just makes the boss so much more annoying, it getting easier in nohits is just a big bonus

But we can stop arguing if you don't like it

I get that

[warm rover]

ok

then stop

[ashen warren]

it isn't constantly getting guardians spawning...

[lucid marsh]

Hey I agree, Providence is just annoying, especially when a profaned guardian is hiding in the ground

I’d make it 3 times instead of like 5+ times

[fossil torrent]

It's 3 times

[ashen warren]

it is just 3

[mighty mica]

Providence is ment to be hard and annoying. Complaining about it is invalid imo

[delicate raft]

[lucid marsh]

Oh

[hollow shell]

Her Healer guardian should definitely render above her, instead of always hiding behind

[lucid marsh]

Hard and annoying isn’t FUN though dumbass

[delicate raft]

She isn't hard

Annoying =/= Hard again

[fossil torrent]

This isn't what i meant with stop

[delicate raft]

Ok then

[hollow shell]

ur not my mom

[ashen warren]

[vestal elbow]

1. To maybe give a bit of a builder
that's what Luiafk is for

[hollow shell]

You don't need that image there
(also it's called the Brimstone Crags now. They have their own platform, but it might probably also burn in lava? Probably just use Obsidian Platforms)

The crags actually werent supposed to have any relation to Providence, hence the name change

[tulip fulcrum]

@hollow shell I'm aware of the name changes, I called my arena that cuz it seems fitting, plus they're also made of profaned rocks and crystals

[hollow shell]

I see.

[tulip fulcrum]

Mhm

[hollow shell]

Nonetheless
you don't need the image and I would recommend delet

and your Siren's Heart suggestion should be in a separate message

Other than those, you're good.

[tulip fulcrum]

Ok then, I'll re iderate it immediately

Ok, I changed it

[hollow shell]

Thankyas

[tulip fulcrum]

No problem

[hollow shell]

(still got that straggler message about the image tho)

[devout seal]

Wait

It's called the brimstone crags now?

[hollow shell]

Ye

[tulip fulcrum]

Yeah

It's also funny enough still refered sometimes as the calamity biome

[hollow shell]

Mhm
Charred Idol's neglected tooltip

[tulip fulcrum]

Yep

[tulip parcel]

More like charred idle

[tulip fulcrum]

Lel

Also, I may seem like I'm butt hurt about this, but to some saying that Providence is meant to be very annoying and such, I can see why, but may I point you guys to the sentinels of the devourer

I dunno if it's just me, but they're kinda joke

Tho Signes is probably and exception to that

[hollow shell]

Granted, they aren't major bosses
Meant to be the buildup to DoG

[tulip parcel]

Yeah

[hollow shell]

You shouldn't have comparable trouble dealing with them as you do with Providence

[tulip parcel]

Plus if they were hard they would be a pain in the ass during the DoG fight

[tulip fulcrum]

True

[fossil torrent]

Void should be buffed, and Weaver should be slightly bufffed during DoG only, some more health.
Fuck Signus.

[round walrus]

A drill spear to go with the god slayer stuff. So you can pierce the heavens.

[fossil torrent]

FUCk

[round walrus]

[fossil torrent]

almost nohit doggo

[tulip parcel]

signus, envoy of the doggo

[lost agate]

Zach envoy of the devourer

[ruby cobalt]

devorer*

[tulip parcel]

shit I just forgot something

there needs to be marshmallows in the caocao weapon

there

important fix

[radiant meadow]

why would the astral biome convert the jungle if it doesn't spread at all?

[delicate raft]

It doesn't spread

Even with that name

[agile cloud]

It does spread

But there is a cap

[delicate raft]

No it does not

[hollow shell]

Nah the cap thing didn't play out

It just
infects the blocks where it lands, and never spreads

[ruby cobalt]

It was too inefficient.

So yeah, it just lands and does.. nothing, I guess?

[radiant meadow]

rn it's just a glorified source of stardust

[tulip parcel]

I think it should spread

honestly

it's an astral -infection- after all

[delicate raft]

People would probably not like it spreading

[radiant meadow]

going with the random dashes to emphasize again I see
spreading gets annoying tbh

[delicate raft]

Did you read the amount of suggestions suggesting that the evil should stop spreading at some point?

[radiant meadow]

even if it isn't like corruption/crimson

[lunar berry]

I do not wan to kill my jungle thank you ver much

[tulip fulcrum]

Yea, as well as the hallow

Like really, I tried to do some biome seperating and damage control, and it some how kept on spreading

[lost agate]

@hushed night your suggestion is too simple!

[tulip parcel]

man how did star stone and chronolocked hot chocolate hit 50

I think i've been praying to the dark powers too hard

[lost agate]

[fossil torrent]

Hey my melee suggestion essay hit 50

[ashen warren]

"Make the profaned furniture set resistant to lava." I made this suggestion the update they were added

fuckin copycat

Oh hey it got over 50 stars and a check as well

[twilit gyro]

The 'old' Hardmode ores (Cobalt, etc) have better stats than the 'new' hardmode ores (Palladium, etc). Though perhaps buffing the stats a little could help, because I still want Titanium Armor over Adamantite.

[lost agate]

Titanium will be better than adamantite no matter the buffs

[ashen warren]

That's not really true

[frosty kindle]

adamantite can be changed to do different things

[lost agate]

Yeah

[frosty kindle]

or just insane % buffs would work too

[sleek wigeon]

I dont think it should be changed

to do different things

[frosty kindle]

besides, titanium already got a brick slap in rev mode

[twilit gyro]

I think they should both be tweaked a bit because Calamity armors are just better than vanilla ones.

[sleek wigeon]

Its very hard to compete with titaniums ability

[lost agate]

You need a lot of stats to become better than basically not getting hit

[ruby cobalt]

bu

fucking what?

buff alternate ores?

did I hear that fucking right?

you wanna buff the stupid ass regen from palladium?

[frosty kindle]

no hes saying buff retro HM ores

[sleek wigeon]

viable alts to Palladium,Orichalcum,and Titanium

[ruby cobalt]

eh

sure, that gets a pass

[sleek wigeon]

Apperently old hm ores are alts to new ones :wrath:

[frosty kindle]

since people only look at the alt armors anyways

[ruby cobalt]

old HM armors are inferior to the new ones

because they don't offer anything other than "slightly higher" stats

which get shit on by new ones due to retarded set bonuses

[fossil torrent]

^ tbh ngl

[frosty kindle]

vanilla balancing is borked

[twilit gyro]

I think getting better damage out of Cobalt, etc, could do it.

[ruby cobalt]

balancing?

[fossil torrent]

was what i was gonna say

[ruby cobalt]

THERE'S BALANCING?

[fossil torrent]

what’s balancing?

-Red

[lost agate]

Heck titanium could be used even on scal

[radiant meadow]

doesn't scal cancel shadow dodge?

[lost agate]

Does she?

[ruby cobalt]

She does, but that wasn't always the case.

..until some giant brain (AHEM AHEM CHIPPY, AHEM) used blurring potion on her.

[radiant meadow]

oh

[lost agate]

Pfft

[fossil torrent]

chippy why

[ruby cobalt]

It would be acceptable, if only he didn't blurt out that it was a calamity potion.

[radiant meadow]

oof

[fossil torrent]

wait don’t you mean normal calamitas?

[ruby cobalt]

Thus he subsequently angered both lead devs.

[ashen warren]

The only thing is, is that your dps becomes very sub-optimal

[radiant meadow]

no, scal

[fossil torrent]

I remember him doing that on clone

But not scal

[ruby cobalt]

That's the exact reason behind "NON-CALAMITY BUFF POTION" on every AlchNPC potion.

[radiant meadow]

[fossil torrent]

I might just be wrong tho

[radiant meadow]

I wondered why that was there.

That's what wmitf is for

[frosty kindle]

who thought making a potion that granted literal GODMODE that lasted 14 minutes was a good idea

[ruby cobalt]

I have no idea, and I don't want to know.

[radiant meadow]

It got nerfed, but still broken.

[ashen warren]

Alchnpc is stupid op that's why

[fossil torrent]

But i do know that him using it on Calamitas was the reason for all this

[lost agate]

The same who put ugandan knuckles in there

[fossil torrent]

not scal

[frosty kindle]

and price increased by tenfold i believe

well, with calamity enabled

[fossil torrent]

Alchnpc content is just dumb

[frosty kindle]

alchNPC is dum

[fossil torrent]

Really dumb

[frosty kindle]

the thing is

[ruby cobalt]

10x price increase?

[frosty kindle]

i want to use the "lite" mod

[ruby cobalt]

yea I did that

[fossil torrent]

Just release all your bullshit op content as a seperate mod from the great part of it, if you now so much want it to exist

[frosty kindle]

but the problem is, the sunlight potion (or whatever it was called) helps a LOT and isnt really cheaty

also helps youtubers a lot to make the gameplay clearer

[ruby cobalt]

The "bullship OP content" is now a separate mod.

[fossil torrent]

Drh why don’t you decimate blurring, or do you not have that power

Yes alchlite is great

But the content should be alchplus, not other way around

[frosty kindle]

drh you should make alchNPC potions have price increased by 100x, not 10

[ruby cobalt]

I can decimate any part of the content if I provide reasoning behind it.

But I won't.

[fossil torrent]

yea that works

[ruby cobalt]

10x prices in Rev was my solution to the "fuck it's too cheap what do we do" problem.

[frosty kindle]

just rip it and make it 100x

[ruby cobalt]

It does nothing against those who would've farmed, but nothing would ever stop them, eh?

[fossil torrent]

so you changed something about the actual good and important part of the mod which is the brewer

And just not bother with the rest of the mess

still, please decimate blurring

just why not

there’s hella good reason for it

[ruby cobalt]

As I said previously somewhere else, I'm not touching the balancing with a thousand-foot pole.

[fossil torrent]

Good idea

[cyan lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465195069406707722/521051816633565204/unknown.png @violet tusk

[hollow shell]

@violet tusk Gonna need some mechanism to prevent your inventory from massively overloading

also that's not what he's suggesting, Cob

[fossil torrent]

ey send in my 50 star suggestion

[violet tusk]

dang

4 stars in the first like 10 seconds

xD

[fossil torrent]

(eh i’m not bothered about it)

[cyan lagoon]

"4. Add missing tracks such as my previous DoG nonstop as well as others such as the brimstone elemental's theme or SCal's theme."

[ashen warren]

"my previous DoG nonstop" huh?

Dokuro made that

[fossil torrent]

Nr. 1 is great, music is pretty much vanity

Fits well, if it’s easy to program, well yay

[hollow shell]

Alright yeah, remove point 4 then, Fanboi

and remove point 5 because it ain't happening, that'd be filesize bloat

@violet tusk

[fossil torrent]

Btw for nr. 2, might want to make it decrease drastically once it’s been dropped once

[violet tusk]

edited 2 so the chances are lower

[radiant meadow]

There is a mod that lets most music boxes play from vanity slots.

[fossil torrent]

Cause that’d be a hell of a lot of music boxes otherwise

[radiant meadow]

It's called Better Music Boxes iirc.

[hollow shell]

You edited point 3, Fanboi

[radiant meadow]

you can also stick music boxes in cs's extra accs

[fossil torrent]

@unborn latch that’s really bad, i’m sorry

[ashen warren]

"All summons become non consumable" they already are?

[fossil torrent]

For one, armageddon is often used for farming lower tier bosses in normal playthrus

[radiant meadow]

no

[hollow shell]

Nah Sequence

[fossil torrent]

He means boss summons

[pliant bone]

Thats an infinite farm.

[radiant meadow]

he means like boss summons

[unborn latch]

yes.

[ashen warren]

I thought he meant summon weapons

Yea that's stoopid

[pliant bone]

besidws, how can someone lose to DS

[radiant meadow]

Even Crabbar admitted he was gonna spawn in a nonconsumable Profaned Core

watch Crabbar fails

[unborn latch]

Crab bar Cheats in All his summon items.

[radiant meadow]

yeah, probably

[fossil torrent]

For two, as a nohitter, I can say having the summons consumable helps a lot in tracking your attempts. I more want consumable cheat-only versions of DoG Yharon and Scal summons

[unborn latch]

I asked him.

[radiant meadow]

I think he said that as well

[ashen warren]

Would be neat if non-con boss summons tracked deaths in armageddon somehow

Right-click lists deaths or something

[fossil torrent]

And if you’re doing nohits and cheating in items, having it nonconsumable wouldn’t help IN ANY WAY AT ALL

[pliant bone]

If there was an item that tracks your boss deaths.

[fossil torrent]

Yes that’s a better suggestion.

[unborn latch]

You shouldn't have to use Cheats to make A mode playable i'm sorry @fossil torrent

[fossil torrent]

The hell?

It isn’t.

[pliant bone]

And you just suggested infinite boss summons

[radiant meadow]

well, most summons can be purchased after beating the boss

[unborn latch]

Listen nobody is farming out 1000 mechanical Skulls.

[ashen warren]

It's allowed in nohits because some could

[radiant meadow]

If you're doing Armageddon as a playthrough and not cheating it in, you're just a plain masochist

[pliant bone]

^

[fossil torrent]

Armageddon is intended to be used for FARMING BOSSES YOU’VE BEATEN ALREADY, it helping in nohits is really just a bonus.

There’s a reason it makes them drop 11 bags.

[pliant bone]

Or if you dont want to use cheatsheet, defeat boss first in non-Arma and buy crap from dryads

[fossil torrent]

As said many times, the mod is not meant to be played nohit, that’s just an extra challenge if you want. The mod is not designed after nohitting.

Also what termi said.

Yelled enough at you yet?

[pliant bone]

Imagine you are that same masochist and your next boss is Plantera

[ashen warren]

A status message that plays at the start of every boss while armageddon is enabled that tells you how much you've died sounds like a good idea imo

[unborn latch]

When you are doing armageddon you have 2 Options
-Cheat it in.
Or Don't play armageddon.
Listen this does no harm either way you slice it, it's just QOL for The likes of crabbar and those who do want to do that.

[fossil torrent]

No.

This does harm.

[unborn latch]

What does it do?

[ashen warren]

Cheat or don't play..
that's not true

[fossil torrent]

Jesus christ when will you have enough.

[pliant bone]

The other purpose of arma as said earlier is to farm boss stuff..

[ashen warren]

You're missing the third option "struggle through like a wet fish in a desert"

[fossil torrent]

As i ALREADY SAID, it ruins the easiest version of tracking your attempts, which is USED BOSS SUMMONS.

[unborn latch]

@pliant bone And how does that stop you? It's even Better then.

[hollow shell]

Armageddon isn't a gamemode foremost
It's an enableable thingie

[delicate raft]

Calm down man

[lost agate]

Javys chill would you

[hollow shell]

It's not like Expert or Revengeance

[fossil torrent]

i’m chilled dont worry

[hollow shell]

You turn it on for 4 seconds to kill Eye of Cthulhu and sell his Crimtane for 50 Gold

[pliant bone]

ofcourse, some same masochist would farm Destroyer using pre-mech gear

[agile cloud]

Or demonite

[hollow shell]

You don't need to also make the Suspicious Looking Eyes free on top of that

[fossil torrent]

It would ruin economy in normal play, since you won’t have to buy or make the summon, but you get a ton of money out of it.

[lost agate]

@pliant bone you know thats totally possible and easy?

[unborn latch]

Wut?
The Effect dissapears once You turn armageddon off.
@fossil torrent

[fossil torrent]

@pliant bone stormbow lul

[lost agate]

Not even that

Lemme find that video

[fossil torrent]

jesus..