#suggestions-discussion

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fervent zealot
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no, dragon is not dragon god yharon

ashen warren
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You forgot my least favorite item.. dreadmine staff

fervent zealot
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dreadmine fills me with a sense of impending dread when someone brings it up

radiant pawn
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off topic but forbidden sun best mage weapon for ml

ashen warren
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Sun god staff isn't too bad

fervent zealot
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did you just... unironically say that in front of me?

ashen warren
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I like summons that are based on player positions since the ai isn't fucking shite

fervent zealot
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🚪 👈

radiant pawn
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who are you talking to

ashen warren
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Me probably

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Even though I've beaten most of calamity (fuck yharon) with summoner

radiant pawn
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summons that stick to your position are the best

ashen warren
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And sun god helped me a lot

radiant pawn
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and follow you

ashen warren
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Especially with fishron dashes

fervent zealot
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sun god is an evolution of sun spirit

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and sun spirit is...

sleek wigeon
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Sun spirit is alright, since summons cant hit dashing EoC anyhow

fervent zealot
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ijones not you too

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last i checked sun spirit didn't even actually do summon damage

ashen warren
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haha burn in hell

sleek wigeon
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Did you know sunspirit used to be able to crit since it used to do magic damage?

fervent zealot
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wait, that was fixed?

sleek wigeon
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P sure

fervent zealot
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oh it's fine then now

ashen warren
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The projectiles being other damage types was mostly fixed

fervent zealot
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and by extention sun god is fine then too since it's no longer evolved meme.

ashen warren
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True ark is now.. not bad

sleek wigeon
hollow shell
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@rich wagon Awesome

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@ashen warren No

rich wagon
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yay

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ty

ashen warren
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:((

rich wagon
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gtg bye

hollow shell
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Cya

ashen warren
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Yharim's pocket knife = win

sleek wigeon
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Yharims pocket knife more like grand guardian

heady comet
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meme

tired haven
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Grand Guardian counts as tru memee unlike the knife

lunar berry
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oOF

marsh gust
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tbf it acts like true melee when its in range

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mfw my stupid idea becomes an actual good suggestion hahayes

tired haven
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Well for counterscarf and rage that likely won't count

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But eh

rich wagon
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lmao

proven tide
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._.

rich wagon
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._.

lunar berry
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oofv

ashen warren
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oh wow

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Someone just remove one of theirs

rich wagon
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°-°

ashen warren
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Tbh though planetoids exist

lunar berry
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hmMMM

ashen warren
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600 platinum from planets what?

lunar berry
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yees

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and how to get up there

ashen warren
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Rope

lunar berry
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that would take time

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ya sEE

rich wagon
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hope you don't get 6 copper planetoids lmao

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Copper Armour x12314

ashen warren
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I always get like 3 platinum and 1 tungsten

rich wagon
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nice

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once u get into hardmode tho, iron and lead start getting more useful than platinum and gold I think

ashen warren
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it's a personal annoyance of mine about my own luck

rich wagon
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better than all copper ¯_(ツ)_/¯

heady comet
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Quality suggestions

lunar berry
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oOF

tulip parcel
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why all at once though

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is this a coordinated shitpost

rich wagon
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Are you not allowed to react to your own reaction xD

hollow shell
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@violet carbon bad

tulip parcel
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but the dancing crabulon weapon isn't?

hollow shell
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I already told him no

tulip parcel
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no extend necc is the "make cryogen a fridge" brainlet

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dancing crabulon is uh

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"cyrus"

hollow shell
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I'm aware

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I already told him no

tulip parcel
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oh ok

sudden quail
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Refrigerant

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I don't get it

frail mantle
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no one tell him

civic rampart
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Is the chlorophyte armour changed to fire leaf crystals of thier respective damage type?

ashen warren
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That leaf almost never hits anyway

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Especially when using the Almighty Circle

civic rampart
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I use the triangle

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And sometimes the rainbow

frail mantle
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when testing the SDFMG against the minigun, consider this: while the minigun only fires normal bullets, the SDFMG also fires homing rockets, meaning that it hits the enemy more often.

civic rampart
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Wait then why the wiki page says that the sdfmg is worse than minigun?

frail mantle
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i dont know, maybe the person who wrote that didnt take the homing rockets into consideration

civic rampart
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Ok...

violet carbon
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cryo-ice
gen-to create

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a refrigerant doesn’t always necessarily equate to refrigerators

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it’s more or less a naming thing

tired haven
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Gel darts bounce 5 times which lets them stick around for like 100 blocks of WoF travelling, if that is not enough for you, well, too bad, because thrower never was about far distances

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@ashen warren

ashen warren
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Okay good point, but still that is only not even a screen-full distance from WoF, and its the only usable weapon in the WoF fight, so my points still stand (do they?) other weapons dont even hit the wof because of the hungries and leeches so at least an alternative weapon would be cool, I mean, ranger has like 4 weapons or something.

fossil torrent
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b e e n a d e s

faint rivet
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Beenades 2 stronk

radiant meadow
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someone not praising the beenades daryl

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s m h

ashen warren
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it was mentioned in my previous post

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its a free, skill-devoid infinite damage at no cost, but preparation.

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but nonetheless i defeated wall of flesh after dying with the gel knives. still would like at least one alternative to it..

frail mantle
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s m h Henkhenk

radiant meadow
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tbf post golem-pre ml has much bigger issues than prehardmode

ashen warren
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I dont know about that, I'm just reporting on my current experience with thrower.

spark flax
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imagining thinking thrown weapons have short range

this meme brought to you by the girl who did a deathmode thrown playthrough... and then followed it up with a true melee one

marsh gust
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cosmic kunai exists HDhurdur

frail mantle
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valediction exixts HDfailure

tired haven
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Sniper rifle exists HyperFailure

radiant meadow
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why use sniper rifle when you can use an AMR? CompleteFailure

terse rain
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amr should not be autofire

tired haven
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At the fire rate it is autofire is more of problem than help

marsh gust
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spacegun shouldnt be autofire for balancing sake HDfailure

radiant meadow
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or you can just give it phoenix blaster treatment and make its meh dmg even worse and nonviable

tired haven
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Implying phoenix blaster was anywhere lower than powerful af

radiant meadow
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I meant the space gun

tired haven
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Well weapon changes and statement stays

radiant meadow
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space gun's dmg is kinda meh; meteor set bonus is basically what keeps it alive

tired haven
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I mean, even without set bonus you can fire it for around 10 seconds or get like 5% penalty from pots which is not any seriously bad

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While mage still lacks high velocity/range options at this point of gam

radiant meadow
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I suppose

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mana rose lacks range and bolts lack velocity

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and sky glaze is a different type of weapon

tulip parcel
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Nooo

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Cursed Ick is gonna get buried and forgot

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I’ll have to remember it

ancient dragon
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@oak spruce It doesn't. You should come up with an idea to remedy the situation as opposed to just pointing it out.

radiant meadow
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most post ml bosses have terra arrow/bullet resist

oak spruce
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well i assume the solution would just be number tweaks. its not something that would require any mechanical changes @ancient dragon

ancient dragon
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Your assumption doesn't serve us much unless you add it to your already-made post in thorough detail and with valid reasoning.

radiant meadow
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@oak spruce first of all, condense your suggestions into the same post
second of all, it's not a fair comparison because post ml bosses already have a resistance to terra arrows (and terra bullets)

oak spruce
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ok, i didnt know that and didnt see your first post, sorry. maybe ill test it out more later

alpine copper
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Suggestion: make crabulon dance to crab rave by noisestorm

delicate raft
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no

devout seal
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Huh
36 stars on my suggestion

ashen warren
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Mine has like 66, lmao

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I suppose I'll put more suggestions in the near future if I think of anything

hearty yew
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@oak spruce don't worry, terra arrows are gonna get rebalanced

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or, uh, should be

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_>

ruby cobalt
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I still starred it, so eh

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

devout seal
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Ozza
What do you think of the suggestion i made yesterday?

ruby cobalt
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Vanadite?

hearty yew
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well i starred it

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what else do you want

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hardened sand exists

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it doesn't have to have a cool name

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but i like it

ruby cobalt
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Mhm.

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It's definitely better than what it is rn, but eh.

devout seal
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I'd just prefer if it was called something else, Abyss Gravel just seems so boring, considering the other blocks at-least have somewhat interesting names.

ruby cobalt
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I mean.

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hardened sand

devout seal
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That's in the desert, not the abyss.

ruby cobalt
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Yeah, but the naming system.

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It can always be just as stupid/even worse.

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@toxic pagoda I will fucking eradicate you if you don't keep it within one suggestion.

toxic pagoda
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dude

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Im only using that to return

ruby cobalt
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Sorry, just that one whole space triggered me.

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Keep going.

toxic pagoda
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to organize the lines within the suggestion

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its ok

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its just annoying how discord doesnt allow return

ruby cobalt
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You know, rules are rules.

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Discord is gay, I agree.

toxic pagoda
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and sends the msg right away

sleek wigeon
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If your on pc

faint rivet
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Shift + enter

toxic pagoda
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ok

sleek wigeon
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You can use
shift enter

ruby cobalt
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If you're on PC then just shift+enter, yeah.

faint rivet
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If you're on mobile then you just manually send with the arrow that isn't even on your keyboard HDhurdur

toxic pagoda
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oof

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Lol my suggestion sucks

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but I want true melee to have some love

quasi fable
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THIS IS AWFUL

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how come asgards valor STILL requires visibility 🤢

frail mantle
cyan lagoon
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@ashen warren we already have plans for yharim

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he won't be coming for a long time though

frosty kindle
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or y'know Twoots, apply a vantiy shield instead of Asgard's valor

cyan lagoon
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@ashen warren What do you mean by that?

toxic pagoda
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the shields arent bad shut up @quasi fable

stable adder
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yeah i want a gun m8

cyan lagoon
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Also another exo gun suggestion

ashen warren
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lets say there's that shield you get from providence or smth

toxic pagoda
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heavenly gale is good enough

stable adder
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is that like a meme or something

ashen warren
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right

stable adder
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lol my bad

frosty kindle
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i dont see anything wrong with exo gun suggestions

cyan lagoon
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No, it's fine

toxic pagoda
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I want an exo true melee for crying out loud

cyan lagoon
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It's just that it's been suggested a whole lot

ashen warren
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and you can just recraft the shield into a version of itself that dashes

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or doesnt dash

stable adder
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its just that im doing a gunslinger playthrough and its just like eh

quasi fable
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what justifies the nerf to daedlaus emblem? it's absolutely pointless to get it now

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+5% damage

lost agate
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@quasi fable install invisible dye mod

toxic pagoda
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melee only has exoblade and ark of the cosmos

frosty kindle
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Twoots, the whole point of toggle visibility is to utilize the shield's dash, and/or its passive effects. If you dont like the look of the shield, just equip some other shield in vanity, or do what Shucks said

stable adder
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true

lost agate
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Melee has sotc too tho

toxic pagoda
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yea or dye the shield and make it look edgy

stable adder
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throwing, summoner, and magic have no qualms tho

ashen warren
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you know whats the worst thing

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pre yharon phase 1 m a g e

toxic pagoda
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no..?

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I disagree

stable adder
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oof havent tried that yet so idk

ashen warren
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the weapons deal a lot of damage

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but

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you cant hit it

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they're so low range

toxic pagoda
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magnetic meltdown worked

ashen warren
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especially the magnetic thing

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magnetic meltdown hits him for like half a second and thats it

lost agate
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Uh, ever used alpha ray?

ashen warren
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alpha ray is m e h

lost agate
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Meh???

ashen warren
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y u h

cyan lagoon
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alpha ray is being moved to phase 2

toxic pagoda
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ok

cyan lagoon
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so that won't work

ashen warren
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what

cyan lagoon
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"104 - Moved Alpha Ray to buffed Solar Eclipse/Darksun-tier. - Done ✅"

ashen warren
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wait oh yeah

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alpha ray is good

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but i was talkign about

toxic pagoda
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magnetic meltdown worked fine

ashen warren
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the weapon before that one

toxic pagoda
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idk what the problem with it is

ashen warren
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and magnetic meltdown is very bad at dealing damage to a fast target

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it does 300k dps on an improved dummy

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but i could barely get like 40k sometimes on yharon lol

toxic pagoda
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you just have to know how to aim with the magnetic meltdown

ashen warren
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yeah you can aim but it will hit him for like 0.5s or less

toxic pagoda
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requires prediction and accuracy

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and if you aim right you should do a fair number of DPS

quasi fable
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@frosty kindle fine i will install a patch mod for this but still what if i want no shield

ashen warren
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multiple people are typing

lost agate
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Use invisible dye mod

frosty kindle
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then that would defeat the purpouse of its dash visibility toggle

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go with the invis dye, like shucks mentioned

hollow shell
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Yo joka, if you could rework your suggestion so it can work independently of the previous one, then I'll star it

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cuz iirc nobody has suggested crafting versions of them yet

ashen warren
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OwO

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but nah

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just invis dye mod xd

quasi fable
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@frosty kindle that's exactly what im trying to remove, the visibility toggling dashing

frosty kindle
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but people prefer to have the dash toggle since some might not want to use it for the dash

lost agate
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I believe that for scal dashing is utterly unnecesary

toxic pagoda
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I actually toggle my shield for supreme

devout seal
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@ashen warren No Boss Suggestions.

toxic pagoda
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Devs own the lore

cyan lagoon
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ion you are very late

hollow shell
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Thanks joka

quasi fable
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@frosty kindle wait i don't get it
what i want is visibility to be toggleable without removing the dash

ashen warren
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thats what i typed now

hollow shell
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(if you could delete the previous one tho, that'd be good)

frosty kindle
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but some people want to remove the dash from the shield if they don't like it, or if they prefer to have some other dashing ability, like counter scarf

lost agate
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@ashen warren the only issue i see is free reforging

ashen warren
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hmmmmmmm

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cost of 1 bar of life or smth?

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depends which shield it is

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lets say its a hardmode shield so it costs all 3 hardmode ores or something

lost agate
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What about we just make a hotkey for that? How about that?

ashen warren
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looks at modpack hotkeys

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all 116 keys toggled on something

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xd

lost agate
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Well uh

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What about i suggest and see what does better

ashen warren
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i put a copyright on my idea

quasi fable
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@frosty kindle that's why you can disable it with a button, like elysian aegis protect mode

frosty kindle
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shucks got your back.

lost agate
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Ah fuck

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It was already suggested

frosty kindle
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but at the same time, would using the key both enable elysian guard special and disable dashes?

ashen warren
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thats why there's a new hotkey?

lost agate
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^

frosty kindle
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that'd actually be a pretty good idea, regarding the Elysian guard is supposed to slow you down

quasi fable
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yeah but you get it

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anyway though

lost agate
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Mapping two things to one button is a horrible idea

quasi fable
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why is daedlaueaseaae emblem so bad 😩

opal barn
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it's buffed next update but you didn't hear that from me

quasi fable
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yay

ashen warren
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whats daedalus emblem for Henkhenk

quasi fable
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becasue 5% is... abysmal

ruby cobalt
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♿ needs no buffs

tired haven
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Can't disagree

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♿ has rifle scope already

cyan lagoon
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but you use sniper scope in daedalus emblem weSmart

tired haven
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Why would you craft daedalus lmoa

lost agate
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And then the effect goes to shit Henkhenk

tired haven
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Celestial stone is also better than daedalus btw

cyan lagoon
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daedalus looks more to be an all class thing

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so uh

quasi fable
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it's super bad 😳

alpine garnet
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People complaining about ♿?

ashen warren
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wait

cyan lagoon
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Nanotech is post dog btw

ashen warren
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even worse xd

hollow shell
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All the ultimate class accessories are Post-DoG

ashen warren
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is it misspelled on purpose or is the emoji :Babbysiren: like that the real name or smth?

frosty kindle
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intentional

ashen warren
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oh ok

frosty kindle
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it wouldn't matter though, since most of us don't even have Nitro HDfailure

ashen warren
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wheEzE

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and on the thrower accessory topic again

lost agate
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@cyan lagoon it would be an all class thing if the dmg boosts werent ranged only

cyan lagoon
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I should mention that ye

ashen warren
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i was talking about small progression on the accessory, and i dont know about any ultimate thrower accessory 👀

heavy nexus
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Suggestion:
Make a sort of "Ore Fish" to carry the Chaotic Ore.
Because a slime that far underwater is ridiculous.
Also slimes are overrated. CompleteFailure
Change:
109 - Added Chaotic Puffer and Devil Fish. -

hollow shell
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I feel like it'd be way more fitting to suggest Daedalus Emblem get more ranged-based boosts
instead of suggesting it to be a slightly better version of the Celestial Stone

tired haven
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Considering you upgrade the post-Golem accessory immediately it would be pretty weird

cyan lagoon
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It was already an immediate upgrade regardless ;v

frosty kindle
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we could make it require Bars of Life...

hollow shell
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Yeah but only if you were playing a certain class

ashen warren
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rip my thrower accessory ;-;

tired haven
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I mean as upgrade to sniper scope it was not immediate, and class change is not direct upgrade as well

heavy nexus
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Suggestion: Buff The Hive Mind
I have just fought the hive mind for the first time ever with a melee class, using shadow armor and an enchanted blade, and even though i had quite the struggle with the eater of worlds the hive mind was quite dissapointing since i could easily one try it the first time. He did almost no damage to me and i could easily tank everything without healing, maybe it is because all my acessories are warding but still this fight was ridiculously easy, the second time i fought him i decided to do it without moving or aiming but just holding down left click, and i beat him without using any heals, so i suggest increasing his overall damage (playing on expert mode with reveangence on)
110 - Buffed the damage Hive Mind does with all attacks. - Done

frosty kindle
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thats good to hear, bradley.

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Hive did need that buff tbh

sleek wigeon
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How is daedalus supposed to be more all class again?

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it gives ranged damage and is used in another ranged accessory down the line

cyan lagoon
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Currently Daedalus emblem is in a fucked state right now

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The ranged bonuses it gives are negligible and far worse than the sniper scope

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with the only benefit being -20% less ammo consumption

tired haven
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I think the all-class comes from fact it has celestial stone in recipe

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Which is pretty weird

cyan lagoon
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^

tired haven
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Using that fact i mean

cyan lagoon
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It has minion knockback despite being strictly ranged

tired haven
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Mech glove has avenger emblem GWcfcThonk

sleek wigeon
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Not like minion knockback is anything for summoners anyhow.

tired haven
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If not worse than nothing

sleek wigeon
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Sniper scope uses destroyer emblem, another all class accessory

tired haven
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stop, this is only proving daedalus should be all-class daryl

sleek wigeon
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The point is, vanilla has presedent for all class accessories going into class based ones

hollow shell
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I can't tell if that's sarcastic or not

heavy nexus
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Suggestion:

Revert the Alluvion to how it was before v1.4

As of now, the only way to get Typhoon arrows, sharks, and tornados is to use wooden arrows, but unlike most other bows that received this change, the Alluvion does not convert all of its arrows. Similar to the Monsoon, which kept firing its arrows along with sharks and tornado arrows, the Alluvion should be able to do that as well.

When comparing the Alluvion and Phangasm with Vanquisher arrows, Phangasm consistently had a higher dps. v1.4 nerfed the Alluvion in a way it did not really deserve it. While wooden arrows allow you to have special effects, the Alluvion lost a lot of its charm and often still seemed to have a lower dps.
Repost that got 32 stars

Changelog:
103 - Buffed Alluvion because it was garbage.

frosty kindle
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you must be on a roll then, bradley.

tired haven
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Buff was not reverting, stop

frosty kindle
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well i mean he kinda did ask for a buff

tired haven
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Well yeah

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But still

sleek wigeon
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not like a bunch of others asked for alluvion buffs

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Considering how much it paled in comparison to the

hollow shell
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(Also I was using Alluvion in the current update and it could get like 10x the DPS of my other weapons on stationary targets with those tornadoes)

sleek wigeon
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phangasm

tired haven
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Well I asked for phangasm nerf, does this count?

sleek wigeon
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How many stationary targets are there post doggo, rover?

frosty kindle
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i mean, i kinda asked for Gale buff and all other weps got nerfed HDfailure

tired haven
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Bumblebirb summoning birbs

cyan lagoon
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Brimstone hearts

frosty kindle
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yeah, thats the only prob gale has suffering

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alot of the projectiles pierce

hollow shell
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If you have Elemental Quiver the tornadoes go apeshit and fly everywhere
kinda spreading that DPS outward a bit

frosty kindle
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my good RNG never fails me though, since i get lots of blue arrows in Brim heart phase

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and green (tornado) arrows otherwise

lunar berry
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@cyan lagoon yea but then we would have to make another accesory for rangers at around that point

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eg. mages have the similarities of calamitas

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melee has fire gauntlet?

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and daedalus emblem is used in elemental quiver crafting so it would have to be changed

cyan lagoon
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it's not like i said that in the former suggestion

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yes it would need a new accessory for daedalus emblem but sniper scope would be better off in elemental quiver's

ashen warren
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I know a major flaw with my idea is that they would have to re-work a LOT of the ranged accessories, and would have to look at every single ammo type and figure out where they fit best on the two sides. But otherwise I thought it would be a decent idea since the current setup gives ranged a little too much flare, to the point where it's everyone's go-to class when it comes to damage

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Not saying it nerfs any damage, but it does make it so that if you were to take full advantage of ranged, it would have to be through 2 accessories so that you don't just have a damage boost through absolutely everything in that class all in one.

radiant pawn
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the comment is like way up but

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did someone say alpha ray is meh HyperEthanJudge

crisp osprey
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alpha ray is a nice mage weapon
the first time i made it i felt powerful

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especially when i made it for a friend when he was playing mage

potent veldt
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Has a monolith for the astral infection background been requested?

delicate raft
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I think it has

sleek wigeon
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@foggy vapor wot

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You could also just

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not use any weapons which shoot projectiles

sleek wadi
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Also that mode would be impossible to do a full playthrough of.

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Scal stays too far away for you to true melee, and Yharon deals too much damage to face-tank

spark flax
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it's not impossible, judging by crabbar's videos

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just very nearly impossible

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at least for yharon. scal is impossible now super dummies are patched

ashen warren
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I haven't seen anybody do scal successfully

tired haven
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Scal is technically possible but again by spamming dummies to not let brothers and seekers spawn

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Coldheart Icicle makes fight a tad bit simplier

alpine garnet
#

Just RoD into her?

ashen warren
#

poke

tired haven
#

Rodding isn't a way, waiting for dashes/floaty move is

alpine garnet
#

I mean it's possible but jank af

tired haven
#

Yeeees CompleteFailure

spark flax
#

i mean, true melee is jank to begin with

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that's what makes it fun!

ashen warren
#

If they added another phase where she isn't pinned to the side of your screen and maybe added a new true melee then it would be a lot smoother

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Tbh it isn't all that different to yharon or something

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Just wait for dashes and staying still phases

tired haven
#

Well yeah fighting scal with weapons 3 tiers lower isn't exactly engaging

ashen warren
#

Spam jelly

tired haven
#

Stellar Striker is still best pick ever for true melee in general

spark flax
#

tbh make Exoblade have a true melee version

ashen warren
#

Add a right-click?

spark flax
#

its intensely silly how several true melee swords are used in its creation

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and yet,

tired haven
#

Earth but it's dev wep GWqlabsMmSad

ashen warren
#

A true melee right-click would actually be super fun

spark flax
#

should i
suggest that, actually

tired haven
#

I guess

ashen warren
#

i don't need no range

spark flax
#

i'll take a bit to think about what the true melee function of it would be

ashen warren
#

It already has one

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Those floaty arrow things

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That orbit you

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just need 10 more since exo

worn bay
#

i suggested an exoblade true melee a while ago

spark flax
#

o

worn bay
#

You can do it again if you come up with a more unique right-click effect tho

round falcon
#

i believe that is an isaac reference and ive heard its good, plus the idea's reason seems good so im starring it

hollow shell
#

@dense needle It would help if you detailed an armor idea in specific
Its name, what materials it would use, what its set bonus would be, etc

dense needle
#

Okay. Gonna think about that

hollow shell
#

Good luck

dense needle
#

Maybe i forgot about it bcs im in school rn

hollow shell
#

Alright, I gotta ask
Should we keep stars on bluechecked suggestions?

Because suggestions sent to the dev server can be retroactively tagged to show that many have suggested the idea, and I've been judging that by when a starred bluechecked suggestion gets 50 stars
but sometimes stars aren't included for reasons which I don't think have been defined yet

radiant meadow
#

well, I don't usually star blue checked suggestions tbh
I always thought it has been sent to the dev server, so I don't need to star it

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I didn't think stars on blue checked suggestions had a purpose

cobalt lotus
#

@ashen warren there is already voidstone in the 3rd and 4th layers of the abyss

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but no armor set

ashen warren
#

The abyss armor set is the diving super-accessory smh

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About bluechecked suggestions: I would make it known somehow that if a bluechecked suggestion is starred a lot that it lets the devs know that people really want it

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And have a system based around that

ashen warren
#

@barren rain solution exists you know

barren rain
#

I was trying to do a minimum bosses run :l

worthy fiber
#

It still seems like something to be fixed

#

It shouldn't be overriding the pillars, in the least

radiant meadow
#

that's a bug

#

it is noted already I think

radiant meadow
#

nice "doo-doo" damage

buoyant sage
#

It was doing 2 damage for me

#

I'm fucking shook

ashen warren
#

Tbh that is destroyer which is a joke

lost agate
#

But still

#

That way too absurd

radiant meadow
#

well, spear of paleolith is best for destroyer and aquatic scourge

buoyant sage
#

Destroyer's got a sizable amount of def

ashen warren
#

Spear is good though tbh

radiant meadow
#

against other bosses, it's pretty good but not like stellar

ashen warren
#

Carl your problem might be that you're not using the deific amulet

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That shit is almost required for higher diffs

lost agate
#

If you aim upwards and luckily hit something with the main projectile you have some sick dmg

buoyant sage
#

Ah Shucks what would I do without you

lost agate
#

Also, true that insane dmg in the vid is mainly because of deific

tulip parcel
#

I maybe shouldn't be suggesting rihgt now

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but

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fucking hell

lost agate
#

Yeah you shouldnt

ruby cobalt
#

I see the big brain claimed another victim.

opal barn
#

You know, you can just get a better weapon and kill them before they respawn daryl

lost agate
#

Salt + suggestions= bad

sinful violet
#

simply improve game skill darylsweating

tulip parcel
#

It's just fucking horseshit

neon panther
#

git gud

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I’m sorry

sinful violet
#

no you're not

tulip parcel
#

not only do I have to deal with the boss randomly spawning into my hitbox but ALSO I FUCKING KILL CREEPERS UNTIL THE GAME DECIDES PHASE TWO

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FUCKING

neon panther
#

yeah you’re right

sinful violet
#

didn't think so

opal barn
#

There is an epic strat for phase 2, don't stop running right with frostspark and he will never hit you

tulip parcel
#

no

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I'm not having issues with phase two

#

that's not what I'm mad about

#

I'm mad about phase one being a goddamn treadmill

opal barn
#

That's mainly when "boss spawning in my hitbox" happens

heady comet
#

go back to the salt mountains

neon panther
#

creepers are really easy to deal with
just knock them into some water
when they explode it won’t destroy blocks

tulip parcel
#

fine leaving

sinful violet
#

hyperin

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you bitch

opal barn
#

Oh I just realized what he meant lmao

lost agate
#

New rule tbh, nobody shall come here if they have unfinished business at #mountains_of_salt mood

opal barn
#

I was like "what is he talking about, creepers don't explode" LUL

sinful violet
#

brb banning this fool

neon panther
#

wait what

sinful violet
#

its about fucking time

lost agate
neon panther
#

mrrp
don’t do this

lost agate
#

Wait you serious?

sinful violet
#

nah

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i never am

lost agate
#

Phew

sinful violet
#

i ban before i speak

tulip parcel
#

thought you were cool man

sinful violet
#

mm?

#

creeper stuff is probably getting fixed anyway

#

people have just memed it into the ground

#

as people always do

neon panther
#

meme me into the ground omg

lost agate
#

Also,mrrp roles are still oblivion HyperFailure

marsh gust
#

he just hogs all the roles

sinful violet
#

im bored smbhm

sudden quail
#

Damn, and to think I got salty just yesterday when I tried to fuck BoC and ended up cheating in a Subsuming Vortex just to get it over with

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I do agree though that the endless Creepers should get nerfed, so you better be telling the truth, nap.

hollow shell
#

They already did get nerfed in the Astral update

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I guess they didn't get nerfed enough

sudden quail
#

Seems like it

lost agate
#

Or you just need a piercing weapon smh

sudden quail
#

Nah I just need to git gud on phase 2

marsh gust
#

rng HDhurdur

rich wagon
#

blame everything on rng HDhurdur

marsh gust
#

yes

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or lag

sleek wigeon
#

space gun tbh

#

its funny to think space stuff is pre evil boss

marsh gust
#

too bad its not in nohits HDhurdur

sleek wigeon
#

Whatcha mean? Its not progressiony breaky at all to get spacegun pre evil boss though

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I dont see why it would be banned.

quiet abyss
#

For nohit purposes, meteor and hellstone stuffs are banned until post-EoW/BoC
And since Fab is the one that said it, it will stay that way slobbyjoy

sleek wigeon
#

Thats smelly tbh

frail mantle
#

I mean, space and hellstone stuff can be obtained pre-boss, really

sleek wigeon
#

Not without breaking progression

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Reaver shark is considered breaking progression

rich wagon
#

they can be obtained pre boss but you gotta do a lot of digging

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and then its way too op for its tier

hollow shell
#

How is it breaking progression for Meteor equipment to be pre-boss?
Find a Bomb/Dynamite underground, get Demolitionist, blow up Orbs/Hearts, mine meteor with Gold Pickaxe

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Unless there's a factor I'm forgetting

rich wagon
#

idk

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its not breaking progression I don't think

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its just too op for nohits

ashen warren
#

That's sorta the main reason I got

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Although redoing boc was an all around annoying experience

quiet abyss
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Well, I'd say it's not the progression breaking thing that banned the meteor/hellstone stuffs for pre-EoW/BoC nohits, its...well
Using something that's a bit too powerful for EoW/BoC and earlier, from what I can understand
Don't ask me

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sleek wigeon
#

Hellstone stuff being banned is 100% because progression breaking.

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Since you need reaver shark

hollow shell
#

Yeah Hellstone is breaking

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but I've done the meteor strategy several times in playthroughs on higher difficulties

quiet abyss
#

Mhm, hellstone is breaking progression that I can agree on
Meteor? Again, don't ask me slobbyjoy

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But if Fab said it's not allowed, then it won't be

frail mantle
#

Well, using Goblin Army stuff isn’t banned, and that can be obtained indirectly by smashing an orb or a heart

hollow shell
#

Spiky Balls ain't gonna help you beat BoC

sleek wigeon
#

i mean

hollow shell
#

unless you're super clever about it

sleek wigeon
#

they do pierce

quiet abyss
#

Unless you go crazy and spam a bunch of them on many platform layers close together

#

Which is...uh

hollow shell
#

They fall through platforms iirc

sleek wigeon
#

How else do you spiky balls?

marsh gust
#

no

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they don't fall thru platforms

hollow shell
#

Oh huh.

sleek wigeon
#

and yeah i couldve sworn they fall through platforms as well\

marsh gust
#

i saw some staying on platforms on lomp's stream

quiet abyss
hollow shell
#

it appears

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that it might be a recent addition

quiet abyss
#

Ye, seems like it

sleek wigeon
#

Very professional

quiet abyss
#

"(Tested in 1.3.0.6)"

sleek wigeon
#

I wish we could aspire to such professionalism

hollow shell
#

Relatively recent.

#

Hell, the console comment probably isn't true anymore

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should say "mobile"

quiet abyss
#

By looking at that "(Tested in 1.3.0.6)", I'd have assumed that they're telling me it's not tested on the first version it's been introduced.

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slobbyjoy Or maybe that's just me

sleek wigeon
#

It should say "Spiky balls will not pass through platforms unless on mobile,old gen consoles or 3ds" or something

#

How do they version format on the vanilla wiki?

#

I never bothered to learn that

hollow shell
#

It's on plenty of pages, not hard to find & copy

quiet abyss
hollow shell
#

True

tulip parcel
#

i

hollow shell
#

@oblique plume Might wanna remove Starmada from the recipe considering it's not a traditional launcher, and it's kinda a part of a thing on its own, being the final Star Cannon upgrade

tulip parcel
#

finally did the brain

#

it

#

oh god

#

im in the wrong channel

#

fuck where do I go, calamity mod talk? general?

quiet abyss
#

Either works

oblique plume
#

okay then

hollow shell
#

thankyas

sleek wigeon
#

zGuide is useful ya hecking nerd

#

He tells you how to craft junk

#

10/10 npc

#

In an organic and lore friendly way

marsh gust
#

he knows to craft the exoblade

sleek wigeon
#

Its his job to know man

marsh gust
#

but how does he know how to craft draedon's forge then?

frail mantle
#

Guide is Draedon confirmed Henkhenk

oblique plume
#

guide is just draedon's helper

alpine copper
#

Guide its draedon's apprentice

oblique plume
#

so he know how to craft draedon's forge

marsh gust
#

anyone got feedback on my suggestion?

ruby cobalt
#

0.0001% chance to misfire and shoot yourself tbh

marsh gust
#

hmmm

tired haven
#

16.6% so it's blood pact curse all over again

marsh gust
#

so when its a dud which is 1/6 chance, give it another 1/10 chance to explode on your face?

#

so 1/60 chance for it to explode on your face CompleteFailure

tired haven
marsh gust
#

1/60 looks too much ._.

#

1/120?

#

yea ima make it have 1/20 chance to explode on your face dealing flat 50 damage which negates defense and armor hahayes

ruby cobalt
#

buff stardust armor

#

Funny that you mention it since it will be nerfed LUL

rich wagon
#

lmao

frail mantle
ruby cobalt
#

The guardian's absolutely useless though.

frail mantle
#

^

reef swift
#

^

heady comet
#

no reasonthonk

ashen warren
#

Well, I'm not entirely expecting it to get in Calamity. I just thought it was a neat idea, lol

ruby cobalt
#

It is a neat one. We don't do classes though.

frail mantle
#

^

ashen warren
#

Calamity technically adds a fully fleshed out throwing class

frail mantle
#

also, even if they would make a new class, it would be an astronomical pain in the ass to code

ashen warren
#

"I'm not expecting it to get in Calamity" That's why I said that. I didn't think you would add a new class anyway. But I put it just in case, since you never know what the future might bring 👌🏻

#

Anyway, good suggestion on the astral bit. It does get a tad bit annoying

lunar berry
#

so much good suggestions

#

aaaAaA

frigid sphinx
#

It's probably best if I put this here first

Add different on-hit sound effects for post-ml armor.
I think that post-ml armors could have cooler sound effects than the default one. Especially Auric Tesla. It's not really fitting for a godslaying hero to make the same "eughf" sound as a random armorless guy. Plus, after Moon Lord you don't really get hit often, so the sound wouldn't be spammed.

Tell me if someone dislikes the idea
Frost and necro armor from vanilla change the sound, so it is possible

ashen warren
#

ooo

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That's pretty nice

#

I love small details like that

frigid sphinx
#

Yeah
Iirc noone suggested anything like that
Well, gonna put it in suggestions then

worthy fiber
#

Murasama already has a planned upgrade iirc, it just isn't coded yet

ashen warren
#

Ultra-High frequency murasama

worthy fiber
#

Yeah, that

hollow shell
#

He said "Muramasa" but I'm sure he meant the red one

signal ibex
#

No.

#

The regular one.

#

Not murasama.

worthy fiber
#

Ah, alright that's a different one

signal ibex
#

Poor muramasa forgotten.

ashen warren
#

It has 2 upgrades though? thonk

signal ibex
#

I said more uses.

#

:/

worthy fiber
#

Eh, we can give it another path

ashen warren
#

Wait

hollow shell
#

You said that it was such a good concept for a weapon which confused me
Did you mean its namesake?

signal ibex
#

yes.

hollow shell
#

ok

ashen warren
#

Damnit sors I was just about to say that HDhurdur

hollow shell
#

You could clarify that a bit

#

"based on something so cool" or whatever

signal ibex
#

alright

ashen warren
#

Have a disclamer that it's referencing the actual muramasa swords irl

hollow shell
#

Better

signal ibex
#

Make the guide upgrade to a elemental weapon post DoG?

radiant meadow
#

that would be interesting to say the least deepthonk

signal ibex
#

And give him solar armor lmao.

radiant meadow
#

merchant still stuck with throwing knives daryl

signal ibex
#

Give the merchant pandemic post DoG

radiant meadow
#

how would npcs handle yoyos?

civic rampart
#

Nahh malachite to make us salty

signal ibex
#

NPC's could have a script in them to move the yoyo's in a certain pattern.

civic rampart
#

Holding the yoyos on thier own location

signal ibex
#

Or make them track the enemy and move the yoyo towards them idk?

lost agate
#

adding good ai to npcs
hahayes

hollow shell
#

A Guard NPC with actually good dps and protecting power is something I've wanted for a while

#

So the whole town doesn't die instantly in one Revengeance Blood Moon / invasion

civic rampart
#

Lul maybe dryad geared up? She might be a aoe npc healer/shield generator

hollow shell
#

Dryad is probably the only decent one, cuz of the DoT
and the Nurse with her healing

#

(or pre-nerf Cirrus)

worthy fiber
#

@weary walrus That's already been considered

hollow shell
weary walrus
#

Yes please

hollow shell
#

This'll happen some time in the future
Not super high priority but it (probably) shall come

hollow shell
#

@brave girder DR was added to make the prefixes any sort of valuable after Hardmode
200 defense + 4 (or 28 max) means almost nothing, but adding 1% DR does make a difference when stacked (to 7%)

brave girder
#

it doesn't

#

you reach the cap with potions

#

even in pre-hm

#

anyone who'd reforge their accessories to warding to have like 0.5 extra dr is a fool

#

especially now that the cap is global

#

not to mention fab has taken steps towards making facetanking etc. less viable in the past which is why this change makes no sense to me, it's just confusing.

hollow shell
#

That's true, the cap is pretty restrictive

brave girder
#

it's just an extra thing to keep in mind that serves no purpose in my opinion

#

and the more extra things you add the more balancing becomes a hard task, which it is already

#

i appreciate the effort put into balancing and making the mod fresh but i don't think this is the right direction so i suggested that simplification

#

1% of 700 dmg is 7 dmg

#

about 10~ def?

hollow shell
#

I'd actually suggest lowering the reduction you get from exceeding the cap
90% is fuckin, wow

brave girder
#

idk what i wanna suggest because not being a dev it's kinda hard to visualize what the objective is

#

i'm not sure if facetanking is supposed to be viable, or just make defense oriented setups as viable as damaging ones, or easier than them

#

i'm just assuming tbh

civic rampart
#

After people ask for making warding viable, someone asks for it to go to trash

hollow shell
#

People have different opinions

#

That's why we've got a voting system to begin with

#

(maybe we should add downvotes?)

brave girder
#

It wouldn't go to trash

#

I too think defense got hit too hard but i just don't think that was the buff it needed

vague snow
#

I agree that the fourth layer must be with the R'LEYH

#

That song just fits more with the terrific nature of mobs lurking there

worthy fiber
#

I actually assumed it would be that way

#

Didn't know it was actually the other way around

hollow shell
#

imo void definitely fits for Layer 4
it's very open and very dark, fitting to the more foreboding atmosphere of the song

#

RLYEH also fits for 3, considering its the layer with the largest enemy variety and you still need to navigate the terrain

The most chaotic layer, fitting to the relatively faster pace of the song and the more direct fear/panic it conveys

devout seal
#

Ey, my last suggestion hit 50 stars

fossil torrent
#

big boi suggestion

umbral dune
#

my rule is that if it takes up more than my whole discord screen then it goes in a doc

#

it's 1 line away from that

#

good job 👍

fossil torrent
#

Should maybe have put it in a doc

#

Should I do that?

#

Since it's currently split into 2

umbral dune
#

it's good

fossil torrent
#

@tired haven you like melee star this daryl

hollow shell
#

Depth Blade needn't a projectile, Abyss Blade does that

#

It makes sense for Pre-Hardmode melee weapons to not fire projectiles

#

that's what makes them special once they do start to in Hardmode

fossil torrent
#

Then how do we make melee viable daryl

#

with the other choices maybe

sleek wigeon
#

You dont make melee viable

fossil torrent
#

Ok

#

removes suggestion

#

at least buff ballofugu smh

sleek wigeon
#

Ball of fugu is good smh

#

Litterally the best tool melee has against stuff like slime god

fossil torrent
#

Just used it against slime god, it's a lot weaker than the other abyss weapons

#

30% because of the fact that the projectiles home in on the Core too much

sleek wigeon
#

Cant you kill core first now?

fossil torrent
#

So simply making them go more towards where you're pointing would help that

#

Why would you kill core first?

sleek wigeon
#

Because the warped debuff is evil?

fossil torrent
#

Super mega ultra fast Slime-nyooms are evil too

hollow shell
#

Ball of Fugu is amazing wtf

fossil torrent
#

Didn't really ask for a Depth Blade projectile since the projectile being underwater only really only makes it viable for the abyss

#

leaves

little raptor
#

what about the Flamarang ?

#

decent ranged melee weapon

shadow prism
#

seashell boomerang smh

#

also bol

fossil torrent
#

bol smh

gusty geode
#

You know how you buff melee? Make true melee the... well, true melee. Make melee weapons without projectiles hit way harder than ones that do, and increase the already huge defense melee users get. You need to be able to take hits if you want to get that close, after all.

fossil torrent
#

The way to increase true melee is not to increase damage, it’s to increase defense and dodge stuff, maybe get slower but harder hitting weapons

devout seal
#

Hey, Rover

#

have you sent my suggestion in

gusty geode
#

The only reason melee is considered good is because all the best weapons have projectiles, which is against the very concept of melee
It should capitalize on playing the melee class as it was intended; by making you a tank who hits hard but needs to get in close to do so

fossil torrent
#

Yes

devout seal
#

tbh

#

i don't care if it has a projectile

#

it's melee damage

#

good enough for me.

fossil torrent
#

Or just buffing ballofugu smh smh smh smh ngl

radiant meadow
#

and tanking say Yharon is not exactly ideal

#

or Scal

#

and what about non sword weapons?

#

like yoyos or boomerangs?

fossil torrent
#

make ballofugu the new halibut hahayes

gusty geode
#

Both of those are more like throwing weapons
Flails are kinda a middle-ground, but I imagine keeping them as melee would instantly make them meta if swords had their projectiles removed

fossil torrent
#

Flails and yoyos fit melee more than thrower

#

Boomeranglike weapons are more thrower

#

Thats why there are often alternatives of em

gusty geode
#

Basically, if you don't have to get up in the enemy's face to get a hit, it's not melee imo

fossil torrent
#

We get it now

fossil torrent
#

@graceful urchin They should put buffs to other stats, but reduce the health. We nohitters are doing a multiplayer thing, we’re about 6-8 people when were all there and the bosses take RIDICULOUSLY long to kill. Destroyer had a million health.

lunar berry
#

ah yea

#

well

#

if you’re nohitting

#

don’t do multiplayer

fossil torrent
#

We’re not doing nohits.

#

It’s just we from the nohit server.

#

@lunar berry

lunar berry
#

oh

#

k

radiant meadow
#

and someone had to pull out an apoth weapon to kill destroyer by morning HyperEthanJudge

fossil torrent
#

Same with brimmy

#

There’s a mystery about who’s the apoth man

radiant meadow
#

It might be electro deepthonk

#

pulled out a bit of apoth vs prime

#

then again, we also had technical difficulties because somehow it ended up daytime

fossil torrent
#

Prime you killed Prime

tired haven
#

Counteracting mp lag when

tulip parcel
#

never

gritty kiln
#

Like the melee suggestions. Melee doesn't really get enough worthwhile projectile options until post-ML, those that are have throwing alternatives.

lament turret
#

What do you guys think about giving melee and Mage (and potentially throwing, but you'd have to make different tags) armor sets or equipment that care about the sub-Weapon Types (for mage, it'd be Tome, Wand/Staff, and Magic Gun, or maybe some others), like how Ranged has Shroomite, and then maybe also adding stuff for Ranged as well, since it only has Shroomite.

hollow shell
#

That sounds cool and I like it

ashen warren
#

Hyper-specialization sounds like a nice way to make some non-viable weapons viable

placid perch
#

Same

#

That seems very nice

ashen warren
#

Makes fun weapons viable YES

sleek wigeon
#

Ya know

#

you can find bookshelves randomly underground

#

They arent too uncommon

tulip parcel
#

...

#

I was about to suggest a joke item but I'm gonna refrain

ashen warren
#

Any golden chest house can have a loom, an anvil, a workbench (though that one doesn't really matter) and a bookshelf afaik

radiant meadow
#

you can find other stuff too like kegs but that's not important

ashen warren
#

sharpening station

radiant meadow
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I mean technically the houses those ones are in are rich mahogany chests in the latest update of Terraria

marsh vapor
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@lament turret Terraria looks at what ammo the item uses in its code to figure out what headset supports which weapon. Tomes, magic guns and staffs are all functionally identical, and so Terraria won't be able to tell them apart.

lament turret
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Eh, it should be a simple enough change. Just throw in some list with each of them, then maybe some common mod compatibilities (if Fabsol even cares about those)

marsh vapor
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That would take an enormous amount of time

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and wouldn't be mod compatible

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and then there's things like the tome of infinite wisdom. Is it a tome or a staff?

marsh gust
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its tome on a stick

ashen warren
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So a staff

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Infinite wisdom is boring and useless so why would you have it anyway

tulip parcel
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Star Stone
"Light of the Galaxy"
Hardmode Accessory
5 of every pre-hardmode gem (Amethyst, Topaz, Sapphire, Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, Amber) + 25 Stardust + 15 Souls of Light

A black gem with a white star on its face, and dozens of motes of colors within it. The attached image is what an actual star stone looks like, though the image of the item would need to be magicked up of course. The intent is to make the inside of the gem look like a spiral galaxy.

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ssso I'm writing a suggestion

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but I don't know what it should -do- is the problem

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weird I know, but...

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anyway this is a star stone

ashen warren
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Is it a reference?

tulip parcel
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no it's a real type of gem in the world

ashen warren
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Lemme look at its chemical composition

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Maybe it should be shiny

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And something to hold

tulip parcel
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ironically it's super cheap

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well, that is

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there are a lot of cheap copies

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some sell for a shitton of money though

ashen warren
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Cthulhu mythos has a star-stone

tulip parcel
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really?

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oh it's a piece of the elder sign

ashen warren
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That lends itself to ML tier buut

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no

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"Star sapphires and rubies display the property from titanium dioxide impurities present in them."

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"Epiasterism, such as that seen in sapphire and most other gems, is the result of a reflection of light"
"Diasterism, such as that seen in rose quartz, is the result of light transmitted through the stone."

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So a mini last-prism or something else like that

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Projectile reflector

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Nah that's op

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At day you have a damaging sun aura and a star one at night

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Astral set bonus LUL

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I feel like it should be throwing somehow idk why

tulip parcel
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oh

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oooh

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I know how to make it throwing

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because the inside of the stone is supposed to be a galaxy right?

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what do galaxies do

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they spin

ashen warren
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Throwing weapons orbit you?

tulip parcel
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rather, throwing weapons have another, smaller throwing weapon orbiting them

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like a duplicate

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so when you throw a scourge of the desert, a smaller one perpetually spins around it as it flies

ashen warren
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That sounds really cool and really op slobbyjoy

tulip parcel
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I mean hell

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throwing needs some love for hardmode

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alright I'll write it up

ashen warren
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Since it's a projectile dupe it should deal like 30% of original weapon damage because imagine malachite with a second malachite

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Big oof

tulip parcel
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yeah no this would deal way less damage than the prime projectile

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I was thinking like 10%, 20 at most

ashen warren
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20% sounds good because higher damage > multihit

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unless deific

tulip parcel
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Star Stone
"Light of the Galaxy"
Hardmode Accessory
5 of every pre-hardmode gem (Amethyst, Topaz, Sapphire, Emerald, Ruby, Diamond, Amber) + 25 Stardust + 15 Souls of Light

A black gem with a white star on its face, and dozens of motes of colors within it. The attached image is what an actual star stone looks like, though the image of the item would need to be aesthetically magicked up of course. The stone itself should be similar to the attached image, but a faint galaxy aura should be present around it.

While equipped, the user's throwing weapons have a smaller duplicate orbiting them. A Scourge of the Desert would have a smaller Scourge of the Desert orbiting it, a Shuriken would have a Shuriken, etc. For all intents and purposes this second projectile is a true copy of the original, though it simply orbits it rather than flying on its own arc. This smaller projectile would only deal 20% of the original projectile's damage.

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so something like this for the suggestion?

ashen warren
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Sounds good

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bold the "Star Stone" bit

radiant meadow
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triactis' hammer of might must have a really fast duplicate then to circle it

ashen warren
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"For all intents and purposes this second projectile is a true copy of the original" which means same velocity as well

radiant meadow
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so same velocity but smaller?

ashen warren
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..no

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It's an exact copy except for damage

radiant meadow
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then why does it say a "smaller duplicate" thonk

ashen warren
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oshit nice job catching that discrepancy

hollow shell
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@grizzled widget You're supposed to comment on suggestions in this channel

cyan lagoon
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beat me to it

grizzled widget
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Ahh, sorry. How do I do that effectively? Is each suggestion assigned some ID? Is there something I missed in the rules (- commenting here)?

radiant meadow
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you just say something in here?

hollow shell
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Nah you just
comment
just say words in here

If you wanna suggest something changed about a suggestion, it helps to ping the person who wrote it

grizzled widget
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tulip parcel
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Fuck me im an idiot

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Why didn’t I post the Star stone

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Aaah

proven tide
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this is so cool oml

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Might be hell to code, though

tulip parcel
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Well the question is how difficult it would be to modify projectiles with an accessory

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The orbit would probably be the hard part

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The damage could just be derived in a simple formula of (weapon)/5

ashen warren
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My suggestion got 50 stars, I'd appreciate if it got sent to the devs.

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Thanks :)

hollow shell
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np

proven tide
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Oh, wait, can we do that?

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Well, BRB, I have like half a dozen that don't have ticks oof

spiral olive
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piky posted his suggestion in bootleg cooldude chat already so it's star worthy

hollow shell
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So, "Sturdy" trait from Pokemon
except Terraria

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I like it

spiral olive
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more like a reusable focus sash if you play smart

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it's just for that window of error for glass cannon builds

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and glass cannon is always fun to play

storm sky
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Eh perhaps. It mostly came from the idea of Borderlands 2 Healthgate mechanic, but if you had a lot of healing, you could indefinitely keep yourself alive. This one, however, allows for a SINGLE second of relief, terror, anxiety, and all the bundles that makes glass cannon so much fun to play!

ashen warren
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That would kinda be a buff to blood pact

storm sky
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Thoughts though? Like, is the cooldown too long or too short?

ashen warren
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3 minutes is fine

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You get it from KS all the way to scal

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Scal already has 2 death prevention effects

proven tide
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Okay, so, who should I send the images to? I'm not sure how many of them have actually been sent through and are just un-ticked, and how many haven't, so I need a bit of feedback on which ones to not worry about before I can post them

hollow shell
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Uh me I guess

proven tide
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Aight, cool

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DM or post links here?

storm sky
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Hmm, good point. Although if I recall, doesn't Scal not 1-hit you on Reveagence mode even if full glass cannon (I tried with glass cannon ranger)? I know she does on Death mode, especially if you're wearing the Demonshade armor

hollow shell
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Uhh

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DM

proven tide
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Aight

hollow shell
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I may or may not already have a massive list from Pinkie

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which includes like
all unchecked suggestions ever

proven tide
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Oh dear

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That's unfortunate

hollow shell
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I don't even know if
I wanna bother doing that

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Because any suggestions that succeeded but don't have checkmarks are from a long time ago, before we did checkmarkss and tried relying on a bot that didn't work

ashen warren
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Maybe just go from checkmarks onward to catch any that you may have missed?

hollow shell
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And if a suggestion is super old (from August, or September at closest), I won't bluecheck it if it gets reposted
because chances are, Fab or other devs ain't gonna scroll for 50 years in the dev server's suggestions channel to find it, so the idea could be refreshed

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(We didn't have a proper tagging system at the time either, so the chances are lowered even further)

alpine garnet
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thing is, it buffs glass cannons and they already recieved huge buffs with demonshade and probably cap removal

vale bluff
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Has anyone suggested adding a counter for sepulcher's brim hearts & scal's brothers & soul seekers?

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That'd be nice

topaz flint
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what if the sepulcher was made killable

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only requiring insane endurance

vale bluff
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It is, technically

topaz flint
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IT IS!?

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O_O

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what if it had a powerful drop

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or just a joke item

vale bluff
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It takes like an hour to kill though Henkhenk

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99% dr and 2 million health

topaz flint
vale bluff
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Well I'm gonna go ahead and put it in

civic rampart
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Or just use coldheart icicle

vale bluff
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Wait, wonder if that works on him

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Nope. still only does 1 damage

radiant meadow
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even when hitting the head?

vale bluff
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idk

radiant meadow
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it only works on worms if you hit the head

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and they aren't immune like destroyer and probably dog

sleek yew
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thinking of making a meme sepulcher suggestion, what do you think

Speaking of Sepulcher, how about a meme accessory that you can get if you kill the worm?

why
"you killed a giant worm, how do you feel?"
"makes you drunk"
Gives the player ALL effects of the drunk princess's drinks.

hollow shell
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No memays

sleek yew
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shet

proven tide
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Enemy suggestion: Mimic Mimic, a Mimic that takes on the shape of a Mimic to prey on its victims

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I'm kidding and I won't post it

neon panther
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w h a t
that’s similar to the what-if-two-people-read-eachothers-mind thing

proven tide
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hah

plush remnant
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Recursion Mimic

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... IDEA HAS STRUCK

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Gimme a bit to work this out, I just had a wonderful idea.

hollow shell
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Giant Chest furnitures which rarely generate in the Underground Hallow/Evil
look exactly like the Biome Mimics, except they're actually openable, and contain cool stuff inside

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(now people can actually be fooled)

radiant meadow
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until the biome mimics spawn not completely on solid blocks daryl

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what would the loot be?

hollow shell
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iunno
maybe just the Biome Mimic's normal drops, cept you don't have to fight for em

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(and to save the people the disappointment of actually wanting to get Biome Mimic loot, but then finding that it isn't the enemy version)

radiant meadow
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more like help, cramped space, gonna die, no don't aggro it dumb minions

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but yeah, that could work

tulip parcel
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no just the biome mimic loot is lame

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they should contain the souls of whatever biome you're in too

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so light or night

hollow shell
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I would actually love that

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like 50 souls, boom your farming expedition is over

heady comet
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@opal barn lmao

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not on pc can you uh screenshot the entire thing it wont fit

opal barn
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o nice a bring Astra suggestion

frosty kindle
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christ that language too

heady comet
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shh

opal barn
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@potent veldt Astra is not coming back btw

potent veldt
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And why not?

hollow shell
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Aureus replaced him

potent veldt
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Yeah, and why?

hollow shell
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Because it's way cooler and more original than just another slime

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and the fight benefited greatly from it

potent veldt
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And having both would take away from the game?

hollow shell
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It wouldn't be needed

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it's unnecessary

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bloat

potent veldt
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Having a better way to farm luminite that makes sense and can be easily implemented right now is unnecessary?

lost agate
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Also, aureus is way harder

hollow shell
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Dude just suggest that Aureus drop Luminite

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except don't because that's already been suggested and accepted, sent to the devs

potent veldt
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But that trivializes instantly 3 entire boss/events.

hollow shell
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Hm?

lost agate
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Also, post ml weapons are overly powerful for the mere reason to make ML an easy farm

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Well kind of

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Not the only reason but still

hollow shell
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Wait do you want Aureus to drop Luminite or not, Dark?