suggestions-discussion

[hearty yew]

@weak rain Omega healing is 1 supreme + 10 orbs, and you go through Mana a lot faster than health, so I'd change the recipe to 1 and 1 makes 1

[weak rain]

done

[hollow shell]

Done?

[hearty yew]

I said 1 and 1, lol

I was suggesting for Serra's suggestion

Lol

[lunar berry]

one orb

[keen palm]

Killing Calamitas also triggers Post-Plantera Dungeon. Both these bosses are sorta on the same pedestal, so why not have both of them advance the progression?

I'll format it later

[lunar berry]

yes

good

[hearty yew]

I'd star that instantly.

[keen palm]

Alrighty

[ashen warren]

i like the idea of a lore book

but its already been suggested like 50 times

[hearty yew]

pretty sure everyone doe

[ashen warren]

and in much better ways than that

[keen palm]

oh shit sorry

[ashen warren]

its fine dude

just telling you

[sinful violet]

mmm

[radiant meadow]

@keen palm I don't think you can do that because its hardcoded in vanilla iirc

[sinful violet]

we're definitely gonna need to work through some of the more popular suggestions one of these days

[keen palm]

^ What do you mean?

[radiant meadow]

I think that's what Fab said

[sinful violet]

We have a list of the stuff that gets sent to the dev server.

[radiant meadow]

like the screams echoing from the dungeon message is hardcoded into plant and can't be changed?

[sinful violet]

Lookin through, we'll probably look at fixes and utility before weapons and such

[keen palm]

hmmm, maybe have a workaround my instantly summoning plant and butchering it ( without drops ofcourse )

[tulip parcel]

sssso

[lunar berry]

well might be cheating for some

[tulip parcel]

hey @hearty yew uh

[hollow shell]

Also, Kool-Aid, could you work that first sentence like a suggestion instead of a statement?

[tulip parcel]

sorry to ping you but could I get a looksee to see if something is practical? I have a massive suggestion in the works

but it involves an additional piece of world gen

and I'd like your input on it

you talked with us about the efficacy of an ice castle before so I figured you'd know

[hearty yew]

what

the ice castle has a hilarious glitch

in current calamity

[hollow shell]

What

[hearty yew]

it sometimes generates with a fucking enormous horizontal bridge

yep

[keen palm]

I edited it

[tulip parcel]

oh no

[hollow shell]

What Ice Castle?

[keen palm]

is it better?

[tulip parcel]

I meant the "cryogen spawns an ice castle"

[hearty yew]

the underground ice tomb thing

[tulip parcel]

you're thinking of an ice tomb

[frosty kindle]

ice pyramid...?

yeah also gives you partially a free arena

[tulip parcel]

uhhhh

[hollow shell]

I was thinking more along the lines of "Make it so killing Calamitas also triggers Post-Plantera Dungeon.", Kool-Aid

[tulip parcel]

tl;dr ozza, is it possible to add a large new section to the Temple

[hearty yew]

superimposing structures over the world after worldgen is extremely risky

[tulip parcel]

like, when the world generates

[hearty yew]

how do you know the player hasn't placed chests every 10 feet everywhere on the surface

if it's during world gen yes absolutely

anything can happen

[tulip parcel]

so before any action is taken, a large section is added beneath the existing- great, thanks

[hearty yew]

see the current ice tomb thing, it could just become permafrosts castle instead or whatever

[tulip parcel]

just wanted to know that before saying "there's an upside down pyramid attached to the temple"

[hearty yew]

world gen causes issues only when poorly coded

[keen palm]

Do you care if copy that quote or?

[hollow shell]

Do it

[tulip parcel]

also, on a weapon idea... would a post-Yharon weapon that deals low damage but basically multiplies the damage of the ammo it uses by 100 be overpowered?

it'd be a rail gun similar in style to the titanium rail gun, firing slowly

[keen palm]

changed

[tulip parcel]

consuming 20 ammo per shot

[keen palm]

sorry for being a dumb dumb

[sinful violet]

wtf copying railgun upgrade ideas smmhmh

[lunar berry]

20 ammo per shot

[sinful violet]

[tulip parcel]

did you post a railgun

oh right the lorentz cannon

[sinful violet]

indeed i did

[tulip parcel]

um

but mrrp railguns are cool!

we need more of them!

:T

[sinful violet]

nah, i don't care if you suggest more or different ones

anythings nice

[tulip parcel]

yeah this one is pretty different

[hearty yew]

there is a complete lack of guns between dragons breath and Dev items

And of course, naturally there's a glut of Dev guns

Everyone wants a cool gun as their Dev item

[tulip parcel]

uhh... this is meant to be a post-yharon gun

not dev

but

[hearty yew]

I know

[sinful violet]

clearly

[hearty yew]

I'm pointing out WE NEED GUNS RIGHT AROUND THERE

XD

[tulip parcel]

WHERE'S THE GUNGEON

[sinful violet]

hint hitne

I could see if shifting the recipe for the lorentz cannon could work

just pop in a soul fragment or auric ore here n there

make the coin gun drop even more hype

[lunar berry]

is that a van gogh reference

starry night

[ashen warren]

theres been like 3 really high quality exo gun suggestions

hopefully someone donates for one or something

[marsh gust]

i still love anaera the most

[frosty kindle]

the Anaera is probably the coolest

[ashen warren]

that was the one from art server right?

there was another similar one recently

[radiant meadow]

Grand Finale was the most recent one

[lunar berry]

i like anaera the best

[frosty kindle]

grand finale looked like a minigun of sorts, while the anaera took shape of a futuristic rifle

[radiant meadow]

Anaera was Enrendon's gun?

[frosty kindle]

Enreden, ye

[radiant meadow]

I knew I spelled the name wrong

[marsh gust]

RNG gun

[frosty kindle]

[radiant meadow]

Step 1 to making Fishbunjin liking a weapon: Add RNG

[tulip parcel]

Necrogeckocon
“The words “Klaatu Ferata” are legible.”
Summoner Weapon. A snake-skin bound book with a creepy face on the cover. Uses one summon slot to spawn two modified Reanihmated, their upper bodies being normal and their lower bodies being a fiery blue cloud. Fly after enemies, dealing contact damage and inflicting Necrovirus on contact. Reanihmated ignore I-frames.

how does this weapon look

it's part of the mix of lizahrd content

Reanihmated being lizahrd skeletons

oh

and Necrovirus is a debuff that deals DoT and inflicts a slow

nothing to that, no?

[marsh gust]

it looks good imo

[sleek wigeon]

"once xeroc boss is added"

very unlikely

[frosty kindle]

is the suggestion too long?

[lucid marsh]

Hold on, it was specifically stated there would be a xeroc superboss

[tulip parcel]

1 not having a joke negative effect

bunjin you had one job

[marsh gust]

holy shit RNG yoyo

[radiant meadow]

I saw Fishbunjin suggestion and immediately knew it had rng

[frosty kindle]

im not gonna self-star because self star bad

[radiant meadow]

syg already got you covered

[frosty kindle]

anything i need to touch up upon the suggestion?

[radiant meadow]

Lightning Rod*

[marsh gust]

considering presidents votes for themselves its fine from how i see it

[frosty kindle]

[radiant meadow]

how viable would it be for Yharon or Scal?

in comparison to the obliterator?

[frosty kindle]

a post-sentinel yoyo could easily work for DoG and defo birb, but it'd be like a "fun" or off-meta weapon for Yharon i'd assume.

unless you were good with RNG, then you'd be fine for yharon

i noticed how the suggestion perfectly fits with the chat on default text size settings and fullscreen so its the first one to see for new messages

[radiant meadow]

well, obliterator already isn't super good for yharon and scal iirc

[frosty kindle]

obliterator is iirc

[marsh gust]

too big for mobile

[frosty kindle]

ah rip

[alpine copper]

@weak rain name your character fabsol and equip a lul and tell me its irritating

[radiant meadow]

They know what lul does

It's more for unsuspecting players stuck in a death cycle

[frosty kindle]

ooo nice

now THIS

[lunar berry]

hm

[marsh gust]

"equal chance"

[earnest raptor]

Give to Astral Pike a some projectile
: Vanilla and Calamity's post-Plant spears usually have projectiles on using, which leave Astral-tier spear a useless. Auto-swing doesn't add much usability to this weapon.

[frail mantle]

I almost never use melee because i am a summoner, so i havent tried the astral pike, but that seems like a nice change

[faint rivet]

Should I do anything about my suggestion having 50 ⭐ but no check or just wait

[frail mantle]

Which one?

I had a suggestion ages back about a Flailron upgrade that got like 55 stars but i dont think it even got added in

[frosty kindle]

the flairon is actually ridiculously good even in rev+

really good "flail"

[frail mantle]

That’s why i suggested a post-yharon flail

[frosty kindle]

yea

[frail mantle]

also there was a really good suggestion about a post-polter throwing wep that was just throwing a giant titanic

[frosty kindle]

also, what did you think of my D-20 suggestion?

[frail mantle]

Might be a bit of a pain to code but seems pretty cool

[frosty kindle]

aye, that is true

[frail mantle]

Yay

[marsh gust]

uh its flairon not flailron

[faint rivet]

Mine was just Profaned Guardians visible on minimap during Providence fight

@frail mantle

[frail mantle]

[marsh gust]

the scissor got sent to dev server now its time for the rock in the RPS trio

[pliant bone]

Tho why not Flareon for the puns xd

[frail mantle]

flareon because Pokémon references

[pliant bone]

Inb4, the flareon is the literal flail

[weak rain]

How many votes are needed to be considered?

[wicked swift]

50

Also,

[spark flax]

oof they're drowned out as hell but both Disco Balldohr and Chronolline are within 13 likes of 50

fingers crossed

[ruby cobalt]

SMH

star fishing

[frail mantle]

[spark flax]

listen

i'm not fishing im just remaining hopeful

since someone mentioned the RPS trio

[worthy fiber]

I don't blame them

How else would the sentries be fixed

[spark flax]

anyways in other news the giant fucking temple-related suggestion me and vorbis collab'd on will probably be posted tomorrow

it was pretty fun working together on it tbh

[pliant bone]

Sentries that shoot out bullets

[worthy fiber]

Lots of sentries shoot stuff 🤔

[frail mantle]

A mini gun sentry, basically just a rotating mini gun that shoots at shit

[tulip parcel]

Why punish people for playing multiplayer

[ashen warren]

Calamity is about difficulty (mostly) Multiplayer makes everything easy

I don't really care either way but I think that's a sorta good reason

[tulip parcel]

If they’re playing with friends they’re already not playing it mega-serious

It punishes the people who don’t want to play that way while doing nothing for the people who -do-

Like if you want that difficulty then don’t set a spawn near the fight

Why give a blanket punishment for people who want to play the mod with friends

It’s not fair

[ashen warren]

Tbh it's a bit scummy to not have to worry about dying but MP is eh anyway

[tulip parcel]

There’s already the long respawn timer

[ashen warren]

Maybe just make it that the boss heals every time a player dies

Idk

[tulip parcel]

The most intense moments of my MP playthroughs are when one player is the only one alive

And they have to hold out til the others respawn

If I want the mod to be its most difficult I’ll play it on my own

Which is what I’m doing now, I’m up to the brimstone elemental in revengeance

[ashen warren]

Honestly the only reason why I actually don't like MP is that calamity is very much a singleplayer mod

It adds like 3 MP accs

Compared to something like thorium

[tulip parcel]

Which is more than what terraria basic has

[ashen warren]

But that's mostly a "theme" thing

[tulip parcel]

At a whopping one

[ashen warren]

Tbh 2 are just the 1 vanilla one

So technically 1 as well

Affliction

[tulip parcel]

But it’s upgrades for the vanilla one

So it’s not fair to say there’s no attention paid to multiplayer

There clearly is

[robust patrol]

When my and my friend where doing scal death mode together when one died and respawned then the other died scal will go across half the map to fight them and kill all ncps

[ashen warren]

There's like 10% attention paid

But I'm bad at playing devils advocate in this situation so meh

[tulip parcel]

And how does that mean you need to punish all multiplayer

Like

SCal comes for your NPCs

[ashen warren]

Doesn't mean that at all

[tulip parcel]

So punish all respawning?

[ashen warren]

You did say stuff about attention though

[robust patrol]

We honestly just want a way to remove a dead player from the fight so it will leave us alone.

Also me and my friend do want a tough challenge playing multiplayer

[tulip parcel]

I’m not talking about that

I’m talking to koh sequence

[robust patrol]

And being able to just throw bodies at any boss to kill it

[ashen warren]

When a boss is alive players become ghosts?

[earnest raptor]

Celestial Warriors
Post-ML Enemies
Upgraded versions of Posseded Armor, but with new things.
Solar Warriors rapidly shoots to player Daybreaks.
Nebula Warriors teleports on hit and shoots Arcanums.
Vortex Warriors creates portals, was shoots barrages of luminite bullets and arrows, also jumps very high.
Stardust Warriors summons Star Cells on taking gamage.
Drops: respective 2-3 celestial fragments, 1-2 Luminite.

[ashen warren]

Then respawn once it's dead

[tulip parcel]

If that’s what you want then enforce your OWN rules

[earnest raptor]

What's i'm need to change?

[tulip parcel]

Don’t punish everyone for not playing how you want

That’s selfish

[ashen warren]

no it's not

[tulip parcel]

Maybe you can make that an item

But why force people to play your way

[ashen warren]

my idea i mean

it was terrible

I made it up in 2 seconds

[tulip parcel]

If you want a difficult multiplayer playthrough maybe take some responsibility and enforce your own rules

It’s not like it’s difficult to let a boss kill you

Most bosses do it in two seconds if you let them

[ashen warren]

i told you it was a bad concept but you used it anyway >->

[tulip parcel]

Then don’t suggest stuff half asleep and use that as justification

[ashen warren]

It was nerfed solely because in stuff like #help-advice-read-pins people were going on about "just farm halibut" instead of teaching them to play the game

[tulip parcel]

That’s not even related

Halibut is single or multiplayer for one, koh

Two, it’s an item

And you want the devs to bend the game for you

[earnest raptor]

Nerfing the halibut is a dead trend.

[tulip parcel]

Three, and most importantly

[earnest raptor]

[tulip parcel]

You can choose not to use it

You can’t opt out of your changes mechanics

[proven tide]

I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess

[tulip parcel]

It’s gross, it’s selfish

And you need to rethink your suggestion

Koh

[proven tide]

I am the 49th star T_T

[faint rivet]

I have 51 stars and no check mark on my suggestion

[earnest raptor]

My sugg is good?

Or needing change?

[tulip parcel]

They’ll get to it Vick

Don’t worry

I’ll point it out later if needed

[ashen warren]

Bobylev I don't know why but I don't like it

[tulip parcel]

I’m friends with a couple mods

[ashen warren]

Feels.. tacky

Like something you would get in a lower quality mod

Maybe

Idk

[faint rivet]

I like the idea, but replacing possessed armors will make farming that amulet for Auric Tesla awkward

[tulip parcel]

Yeah I don’t think you should replace the possessed armor with those

^

For that reason

Thank you Vick

[faint rivet]

Lol np

[earnest raptor]

Added.

Player respawns in 45 seconds.

Death-mode bosses kills mostly in 20 secs.

Finally: your suggestion is useless.

Player on second respawning doesn't look to bosses, because it before flies away.

[faint rivet]

Psychotic Amulet is what the item I was referring to is called @earnest raptor
I think

[hollow shell]

@pure vector Sorry I'm late but it's 100% called the "Brimstone Crag" now, to prevent confusion with anything relating to Providence

[radiant meadow]

I still call it the Calamity biome sometimes

[frail mantle]

[faint rivet]

[wise pollen]

Holy SHIT I didn't even realize Fake Orchestra got 57 stars

[low hedge]

still waiting for that damn orchestra

[wise pollen]

I don't know where the real orchestra is

[faint rivet]

[shadow prism]

Afterlife Amulet
12% increased damage and critical strike chance
+70 max mana
Gives extra life regen when below 50% life
Having any flame-related debuff gives even more life regen
Surrounds you with a life aura that occasionally fires leaves at enemies
You will be revived once per life with 50% hp
Made from 1 nebulous core + 1 permafrost’s concoction + 7 uelibloom bars + 5 living shards at a Draedon’s forge

[tired haven]

From where crit comes?

[ashen warren]

His ass

[tired haven]

r00d

[low hedge]

critical shit

[ashen warren]

[umbral dune]

oh hey I got 54 stars

yay

[tired haven]

lihzahrd

[worthy fiber]

It's Liza-hard to spell smh

[tulip parcel]

I'm sorry, this was written by both me and lilith

there are probably a couple errors

[hollow shell]

Lihzahrd*

[tulip parcel]

oh it's lihzahrd?

okay hang on

[hollow shell]

ye

[tulip parcel]

okay!

all lizahrds are now lizhahrds

wait

lih

fuck I'm an idiot

okay! all lzhahrds are now lihzahrds

[fervent zealot]

just call them lizards tbh

[tulip parcel]

No

[frail mantle]

^

[austere orchid]

Phosphorescence is down the drain then. 3 apparently awful weapon upgrades are a nope.

[tulip parcel]

at least a crummy lihzahrd idea is getting up there

[frail mantle]

Smh your well thought-out, smart rework of a forgotten structure that took days to plan out with both Lilith and you has just as many stars as my shitty idea that took 5 minutes to write alone

[sinful violet]

oh hush

[frosty kindle]

because some small changes might be useful/good QoL changes that people might want

[fervent zealot]

i kinda wanna see the lihzahrd suggestion get in so i can explore a lategame post golem environment phm instead of just a post plant environment phm

[faint rivet]

That sounds interesting

I rarely do summoner outside of SCal but starring anyway because concept is great imo

[rare delta]

New update, Give all Boss sprites a Santa hat for Christmas. No matter how Sloppy it is 😉

[plush remnant]

I love the Lihzard rework idea tbh

Temple really does get no love.

[lost agate]

Because golem is in it

[tulip parcel]

I'm just proud of a couple things

like the Auric Cog Tyrant

and the Necrogeckocon

also I'm glad people are actually reading it

I was kind of afraid because it was a google doc it wouldn't see any interest

[nocturne sand]

Bombinomicon

[quasi fable]

necronomicon

[umbral dune]

oh that gave me an idea

mind if I make a Bombinomicon item?

[plush remnant]

Ayy, you hit 50!

Relatively quickly too

Congtars

[umbral dune]

a google doc got 50!

[tulip parcel]

thank you, thank you

[umbral dune]

never thought I'd see the day

[tulip parcel]

wow and it's only been like

[umbral dune]

grats

[tulip parcel]

four hours, too

that's record pace

[plush remnant]

Yeah, good job!

[nocturne sand]

Pretty cool idea

[umbral dune]

I gave the Lhizahrd suggestion a star without even looking at the doc, I just want the Lhizahrds to be more important

cuz it's a cool idea but not made well

[topaz flint]

Lhizahrd needs more stuff

The only reason I ever go there is to farm ancient power cores and first time there

But in calamity I don’t even need to farm there

So if it had a full expansion that made t viable to return to the temple (or the jungle as a whole)

That would be very cool

[lucid marsh]

Is this suggestion good?

Cosmic void armor

Concept art, similar to xeroc armor, inspired by Kirby Star Allies’ final boss

About 100 defense (xeroc scaled to bloodflare tier)

All stats up (damage, crit chance, movement speed, hp and mana, max minions)

All attacks have a chance to inflict godslayer inferno, and you gain xeroc rage and wrath upon taking damage, plus all or most xeroc armor special attack effects

Immunity to lava some debuffs, now including godslayer inferno (like xeroc armor)

Crafting: xeroc armor + ruinous souls + 1 sentinel material type per piece.

Reason: there is no non-class specific armor at the uelibloom-bloodflare tier, this would fill that niche with an armor less focused on special effects and more focused on stats. Also, it might be good to add another upgrade to this armor when the xeroc superboss is added to replace the role of the current demonshade armor.

[topaz flint]

So xeroc armor

As a tier 2 for it

Meaning the boss would have stuff to make the final tier

...

I like that idea a lot

[lucid marsh]

Something like that

Basically a xeroc armor upgrade, plus maybe another similar one later. The next similar one would replace the role of the current demonshade armor

[topaz flint]

I see

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren Most of those suggestions aren't resprites

[ashen warren]

yeaaah you are kind of right, the resprite only concern the uelibloom bricks and the astral ore, the rest just stuff to add 😛

[hollow shell]

I'd rewrite that opening sentence, then.

[tired haven]

Amalgamated brain is powerful enough to be locked postWoF

Like cmon, class badge except it is for anyone and also has useless nifty onhit effects?

[gusty geode]

Oh my fuck that Lizarhd expansion doc
Fab plz

[shadow prism]

Laptop
Displays everything
Press (key) to open a UI to toggle events
Made from 1 cell phone + 7 potions of omniscience + 1 blood relic + 1 goblin battle standard + 1 pirate map + 1 arid artifact + 1 sandstorm’s core + 1 naughty present + 1 pumpkin moon medallion + 1 solar tablet + 50 martian conduit playing + 50 nanites + 1 torrential tear + 1 cosmolight + 1 defiled rune + 1 death + 1 armageddon + 1 core of calamity at a hardmode anvil

Basically, it works like cell phone but has a UI to toggle all the component effects. This includes a mirror option to warp home and a martian option (there isn’t a direct summon, hence the conduit plating and nanites). Also grants potion of omniscience effects.

Deities’ Arcanum
Grants supreme knowledge and control over world events
Press (key) to toggle UI
Made from 1 laptop + 1 astral arcanum + 20 cosmilite bars + 20 phantoplasm + 20 nightmare fuel + 20 endothermic energy at a Draedon’s forge

It’s laptop but with an option in its UI to open acranum’s teleportation UI.

Xeroc’s Heart
This relic emits an indescribable aura
Grants ultimate power over the world
Made from 1 deities’ arcanum + 1 terminus + 15 darksun fragments + 5 cinderplate + 10 exodium clusters at a demon altar

It’s a permanent consumable that grants the option to toggle Deities’ UI with the option to start boss rush added. Also gives permanent debuff immunity equivalent to Silva’s.

Essentially just ultimate event starters and info displayers. None of these work while a boss is alive.

whoever starred this wrong channel lol

feedback?

[sinful violet]

[tulip parcel]

that'd be crabbar

lul

[faint rivet]

300 iq crab in business

[tulip parcel]

why the permanent debuff immunity?

I liked everything about it up to that point 'lectro

[shadow prism]

arcanum

it has to inherit something

[tired haven]

I was second, just saying

[shadow prism]

also it’s just convenient

you have Silva by that point anyway

[tired haven]

Btw don't forget to submit them one by one or put in a doc

[shadow prism]

ye i will

do you think it has literally any chance of getting in if it gets 50 stars

[tulip parcel]

I doubt mine has any chance

And it’s hit sixty stars in five hours

[tired haven]

I mean average % of suggestions getting in is like, uh, 0.01%

That excluding 50 stars gate but you could see how slim it is still

[faint rivet]

Btw Crab do you do forwarding suggestions to devs or nah

As in suggestions with 50+ stars

[tired haven]

I don't, no access to dev server

All I can is initially starring suggestions and roasting bad ones

[arctic wren]

I imagine only ... uh, devs have access to the dev server

[faint rivet]

Alright but can't we all shit on bad suggestions though

[arctic wren]

and maybe some admins/mods here

[tired haven]

I do that in especially ruthless manner

[faint rivet]

[ashen warren]

[arctic wren]

the 500th shadowspec suggestion

[faint rivet]

Shadowspec suggestions

[tulip parcel]

shadowspec gun
pre-hardmode gun
shoots bullets that kill things
crafted with shadowspec

shadowspec recipe
1 dirt

how is suggest

[arctic wren]

perfect

[tulip parcel]

thank

[ashen warren]

you'll get a million stars in no time

actually you should add one stone, so it's not TOO op of a recipe

[faint rivet]

300 iq idea

[tulip parcel]

you're right

[arctic wren]

[tulip parcel]

shadowspec recipe
1 dirt = 2 bars

there

[ashen warren]

^

even better

FAB GET OVER HERE AND ADD IT!

[faint rivet]

[arctic wren]

[tulip parcel]

lo qualiti mod that dos not take good idees

i go to tremor, they add

ttfn

[arctic wren]

[tulip parcel]

you're right that's not funny, that's just sad

[shadow prism]

Five completely unrelated ideas:

1. Cosmic Hamaxe, a hamaxe made from cosmilite that’s similar to blossom pickaxe in terms of speed
2. Make it so Enchanted Metal can be converted into 4 of any pre-hm ore bar (copper, gold, etc) at a crystal ball
3. Void Diving Suit, made from abyssal diving suit + lumenous amulet + voidstone + ruinous souls + nanites
4. Make it so one of the crag houses always has an ashen altar, and give brimmy a low chance to drop pieces of ashen/ancient furniture (she can drop multiple, like DS/AS and fishing stuff) to reduce the clusterfuck that it the ashen/ancient system right now
5. I know pacifist things are kinda pointless, but make it so throwing enough love potions at brimmy after surviving a certain amount of time pacifies her, allowing her to move in and sell her drops and some other stuff

[faint rivet]

Personally think all those sound neat

Although the second is kind of irrelevant

[ashen warren]

I'm down for a Brimmy NPC.

[topaz flint]

hoooold on

that suggestion

....

I like that

[hollow shell]

@obsidian berry There are mods that do that?

[obsidian berry]

which ones?

[hollow shell]

No I mean like

I didn't know mods could replace your starter items

or

did

[obsidian berry]

calamity does it as well any mod that gives you starting stuff if there is too many of those the starting garbage slowly overwrites the basic beginnings

[shadow prism]

how many mods are you using jfc

[hollow shell]

[radiant meadow]

the only one I know that does that is Antiaris

[shadow prism]

thorium gives you 2 items

[radiant meadow]

but you still get a wooden pick and axe

[obsidian berry]

heres a pic 😃

I CANT DO ANYTHING

[shadow prism]

wha

[hollow shell]

Huh.

[obsidian berry]

SEE WHAT I MEAN?

[radiant meadow]

why is thorium stuff pushed over

[shadow prism]

the thorium stuff always spawned in the bottom left corner of my inventory

[obsidian berry]

I DONT KNOW

[shadow prism]

it’s just a bug then

tldr don’t use a bunch of mods together

[topaz flint]

o.o

[shadow prism]

it’s basically asking for issues

[topaz flint]

that's um

erm

...too much

[obsidian berry]

but i want my game to be balls to the wall

[hollow shell]

Just use cheat sheet to get a copper pick

[shadow prism]

^

[hollow shell]

and axe

[obsidian berry]

i dont use that one

[hollow shell]

You can disable it right after

[shadow prism]

get it

[ashen warren]

Cheatsheet is kinda a required mod tbh

Like recipe browser

[obsidian berry]

i dont trust myself around that amount of power

[hollow shell]

Again, you can disable it right away

[ashen warren]

I mean, it isn't but yer

[obsidian berry]

again issues like this could be fixed with an extra starting pick from the starting bag

[sinful violet]

if you want to be able to go into deep shit with mods, get cheat sheet

[shadow prism]

yeah but it’s not calamity’s issue

it’s yours

[hollow shell]

Unless the Starter Bag gets pushed off

and yeah

[obsidian berry]

true true

[sinful violet]

you will eventually need it

[ashen warren]

Requiring calamity to patch something for you when it's another mods fault

Yea nah

[obsidian berry]

but STILL if the starting bag gives extra magic bows and a bunch of other stuff....

[hollow shell]

It only does that because you don't normally start with a bow or a staff

[ashen warren]

Starter bag is fine how it is smh

[tulip parcel]

you know uh

there is -ONE- thing I would add to the starter bag

[ashen warren]

It allows you to choose a class at the start of the game and not have that weirdness at the beginning

[tulip parcel]

an anvil

[ashen warren]

it's 5 iron bars come on

15 ore

[tulip parcel]

yeah but you have to get all that before you can make your wulfrum gear

[ashen warren]

It can even be bought at merchant

[tulip parcel]

68 stars
I think I peaked early

[ashen warren]

And calamity dumps money all over you

[tulip parcel]

I guess that's true

dunno. i don't disagree with you though, the starter bag is basically perfect

[shadow prism]

tbh I’d add cosmolight

it’s irritating af having to just wait for the first few nights

[ashen warren]

Wait for what?

Early-game boss summons are cheapo

And cosmo doesn't trigger any events

[pliant bone]

Sure.... brimstone elemental as npc...

[ashen warren]

Bloodmoon and whatnot

[tulip parcel]

brimstone elemental as an NPC would pretty cool but the rose stone exists

[pliant bone]

Tho, I wonder how will brimstone elemental fit in the housings.

She is like around 4 times the size of an npc

[shadow prism]

she’ll become chibii brimmy

[ashen warren]

~~just give us a pacifist route for calamity ~~

[pliant bone]

[obsidian berry]

i dont like how the starting bag comes with the slime crown tbh

[topaz flint]

[pliant bone]

I mean, easy slime hook tbh

[shadow prism]

ye

[topaz flint]

we need the brimestone waifu elemental as a npc

[obsidian berry]

this is true

[ashen warren]

30-ish rope + any ranged wep = slime stuff

[obsidian berry]

collecting all the waifus was an amazing achievment for me

[ashen warren]

You can even turn on arma

[pliant bone]

Just.. make sure you are not on the rope first when king slime spawns

[obsidian berry]

this is also true

[alpine garnet]

How do you get brimmy drops then?

Does she sell it?

Feel like selling her stuff after prime would make sense

Or you could still fight her anw prob

[worn bay]

Are the lance and lihzahrd thing gonna get sent? Neither have the check

[round falcon]

They'll get around to it.

[sleek wigeon]

add a copper pickaxe to starter bag just to fuck with people

[raw patio]

[ashen warren]

add Ark of the Cosmos to starter bag for the hell of it

[civic rampart]

no, halibut cannon

[topaz flint]

maybe we should make an upgrade to the shreader

that when it has speed up it can crash the game

[earnest raptor]

Profaned Flameburster
Ranged flamethrower weapon
Drops from Profaned Guardians
Bursts line of the holy flame projectiles. It's doesn't pierce, ignore immunity frames and have more range, that Elemental Eruption.

:
Providence's defense makes Elemental Eruption on these boss a useless, which forces to use post-Golem flamethrowers. Post-ML weapon, was can't damage second post-ML boss.
Also gap between post-ML and post-DoG flamethrower don't filled, which cause sucking of these ranged subclass in DoG battle. Please, give to flamethrower users more viable option for Sentinels and DoG, that weak on high-defensive enemies a Eruption.

[spark flax]

oooh i like it

[earnest raptor]

I'm calculate, was elemental eruption's damage fully eated by Provi defense...

28 base damage vs. 75 damage reduction...

[spark flax]

oof

[earnest raptor]

Edited.

More, that 75 base damage on EE can be achieved only with glass cannon build and adrenaline and rage scumming.

[split hatch]

Why would we need morphs?

[hollow shell]

@pure dove Problem with those in specific is that there are already mounts with identical effects and methods of obtaining

Gotta think of something more original to use as examples

Crabulon or Signus could be interesting if custom attacks are allowed, or even Astrum Aureus (which would replace the Jelly Bean probably)

[pure dove]

yeah, I just used those as examples, I couldn't really think of anything atm

that's why I asked if anyone had some ideas

[neon panther]

Earth Elemental morph item

I want to ride my floating rock in fully decked out armor

[hollow shell]

You won't ride the floating rock
You'll be the floating rock

[frosty kindle]

imagine being an absolute unit of a rock.

[pure dove]

imagine a DoG morph?

[marsh gust]

would be cool to be cryogen ❄

[pure dove]

maybe a DoG morph, but like, maybe the size of a DoT

or..... a bush morph

you turn into a bush

[ashen warren]

But why

[hollow shell]

But then I'd die a few days ago

[pure dove]

because why not

[neon panther]

skull trooper morph

[pure dove]

the bush morph has a TON of op abilities

[ashen warren]

*sans trooper morph

The more I visit here the more respect and utter pity I have for sors

[pure dove]

you walk at 1.0x speed
look like a bush
you can use items while a bush
weapons will stick out of the bush while using them

[wind flicker]

So the same as normal but you look like a bush?

[plush remnant]

Sas Undretael?

[pure dove]

yes @wind flicker

[ashen warren]

A box morph

[hollow shell]

I would prefer if that had erm
proper capitalization, jasoon

looks kinda low effort without it

[ashen warren]

Reduces abyss detection redius

MGS reference

But seriously why morphs?

[hollow shell]

They're pretty fun

[ashen warren]

The only morph in thorium that i was interested in was the one that shrank you to 1x1 or whatever it was

I never used morphs anyway because slime mount op but that was the only one that was worth my time

The frog one

Checked wiki

I usually just use the unicorn mount for bosses and movement, otherwise it's the jellybean all the way.

Who wouldn't use slime until jellybean?

It's strong for just about every fight

I mean, I could? I've never found it that appealing

[pure dove]

you asked for it to have capitalization... I wonder who is gonna get triggered from that

[ashen warren]

Capitalization = Quality

That's how most people read it

Also it means effort

That's a lotta effort to try and "trigger" someone. And you're no Ben Shapiro

[pure dove]

but look how I put the capitalization...

[ashen warren]

Yes, it's mildly frustrating at best. Congratulations. Libtards destroyed. Woooooooo.

[pure dove]

there, I put it back

[ashen warren]

This Typing Style Is Pretty Bad But Not "Triggering" Besides That's A Dead Meme

[wise pollen]

Triggered epic style 😎

[ashen warren]

Good thing I'm ben shapiro

[hollow shell]

Thank you Jasoon

[radiant meadow]

[cyan lagoon]

Pinging fabsol wasnt really necessary

[radiant meadow]

pinging Fab

[untold gulch]

[wise pollen]

[ashen warren]

How about we just ping Fab for every single suggestion

i'm not sure about that one chief

[hollow shell]

@oblique mountain Bad

Don't ping Fabsol

[oblique mountain]

oh ok

sorry

[heady comet]

thats pretty epic

[hollow shell]

Also you can already do that by enabling notifications in #mod-downloads and #changelogs

[oblique mountain]

i pinged him cuz i knew he was the guy who handled everything with the changelog

[ashen warren]

Fabsol is the owner of the server

[hollow shell]

and the owner of the mod

[heady comet]

I wonder why i see literally no one pinging fabsol when they make a suggestion

[hollow shell]

Well he was under the impression that Fab was the "changelog guy", so he pinged due to having a changelog-based suggestion

He was wrong but that was his reasoning

[oblique mountain]

i edited fabsols name out of the suggestion

and if your reading this fabsol, im sorry

[tulip parcel]

Next time just apply the more effective everyone @

[cyan lagoon]

@tulip parcel

[tulip parcel]

[frosty kindle]

wha

[tulip parcel]

Well you gotta do something to grab the attention amirite?

[marsh gust]

[hollow shell]

@left crag Late on this but did you mean to say "Non-consumable" in your Skeleton Key suggestion?

[hollow shell]

Yeah don't

[sleek wigeon]

It feels vaguely offensive despite not actually being directly offensive.

[marsh gust]

[sleek wigeon]

You prolly shouldnt

[marsh gust]

jeez this cat, i can't even roll my tongue

[fervent zealot]

we should have :ech: instead

[hollow shell]

I'd even say you should delete that image from this channel

[tulip parcel]

That’s a disturbed 🅱ussi

Yeah get rid of it

[neon panther]

deleted
apologies

[tulip parcel]

It’s okay just don’t do it again friendo

[sleek wigeon]

@oblique mountain already a thing dummy. its called notification overrides where you can change notifications for certain channels

So if you want to be pinged everytime someone says something in general (bless your soul) you can do that

[arctic wren]

doing that purely because you mentioned it

[faint rivet]

[frail mantle]

Ech

[faint rivet]

I have notifs for the announcements category enabled

[kind parcel]

does Terraria or the Calamity mod have orbitals of any kind yet?

[worthy fiber]

Orbitals?

[kind parcel]

I mean as a weapon for the terrarian, sorry, I should've specified.

[worthy fiber]

There's the Polterghast Mines from the summoner Bloodflare armor

[arctic wren]

not that they really do much

🤔

[worthy fiber]

Otherwise, I don't recall any other orbiting stuff

[kind parcel]

but the mines are seemingly an effect of the armor, not directly a weapon, right?

[worthy fiber]

It's Bloodflare armor, after all

Minions are weapons, I suppose

[arctic wren]

they largely just circle around you looking cool

still I'd say they count as orbiting stuff

[worthy fiber]

Feel free to suggest any orbity flingy weapon stuff

[kind parcel]

but minions mostly do their thing and you can't really control them, or can you? (I'm not the sharpest knife in the block, I may have forgotten)

[arctic wren]

you can right click to make them target things

it has ... questionable results at times

[worthy fiber]

You can repeatedly spawn them too

[arctic wren]

but it can be handy if used well

also, yeah, you can repeatedly spawn them

[worthy fiber]

I'd consider minions weapons, although they're a bit unusual

In terms of usage

Weapons are pretty much things that do damage

[kind parcel]

ah drat. basically, I got the idea of implementing orbitals as a weapon class for the player's weapon slot, and they could have a passive and an active state. passive would be when you're not pressing the attack button, and in this state the orbital would function like a flying shield that can either block certain attacks entirely or just soak up some degree of the damage. in the active state (actually attacking) the orbital will fly in whatever direction you attack towards, like a projectile, and deal a constant stream of damage, but in exchange you'd be largely helpless and unprotected as you have no weapon at hand. it'd bring a little strategy to the mod, and give bosses like Astrum Deus fun new unique drops. (sorry for the wall of text)

[frail mantle]

Just noticed astrum deus drops nothing for summoners

[ashen warren]

I gave the Brimstone elemental suggestion upvote #69

Yeet

[frail mantle]

nice

[ashen warren]

nice

[arctic wren]

[worthy fiber]

@kind parcel Maybe doesn't have to be an entire class, having something like that as a magic weapon or accessory would be pretty cool

Would be an interesting thing to use

[kind parcel]

you're right. besides, most orbitals would either be the same or be too broken or even too much like other already existing things. it's settled then: Astrum Deus gets an unique drop. (I don't really remember other bosses with orbitals of their own besides Calamitas)

[worthy fiber]

Yeah, I think it's just the two of them

[ruby cobalt]

Polter?

[worthy fiber]

Oh, right

[wicked swift]

@kind parcel You should make it more specific that it's a summon weapon, not a mage one, as you say it's a 'magic weapon'

[kind parcel]

well, you don't really summon anything, since it's already around you so long as you have the weapon selected. (shite I'm bad at explaining this)

[hollow shell]

What type of damage does it deal?
"Magic" or "Summon"?

Your first line says Magic
but you also say Astrum Deus has no Summoner drops, implying this is a Summon weapon which fixes that

[kind parcel]

see, the joke here is I can't tell the bloody difference, so I suppose it's up to Fabsol. both use mana, both could be used to describe the nature of the weapon in question, both are a bit unique in their own way. it's really difficult and I'm really confused.

[wicked swift]

Just make it a summon weapon, that way your comment about dropping something for summoners makes sense

[frail mantle]

Magic is pew pew no bullet. Summon is WHOOSH- now you have a slime fighting for you

[kind parcel]

would a remote control saw blade theoretically count as a summon, despite it being an inanimate object and not a living being?

[ancient dragon]

Yes.
Much like any other summon weapon that does the same.

[frail mantle]

I mean, the deadly spheres are just metal bols so

[ancient dragon]

Summon weapons don't have some sort of strict theming or regulation to them.
They just summon things that attack of their own volition. That's all.

[kind parcel]

also, it's already there the moment the weapon is equipped, and is not "summoned" by the attack.

[wicked swift]

But the weapon still summons something

[kind parcel]

by equipping it, yes. so it's certainly a summon weapon?

[wicked swift]

Yes, and you wanted summoner things for Astrum Deus, a magic weapon is not for summoners

[kind parcel]

alright, I'll quickly edit it. thanks for the help and sorry for the tomfoolery, I'm really literal when it comes to these kinds of things.

[wicked swift]

But if you're that literal, wouldn't you call it a summon weapon because it summons things?

[kind parcel]

well, I take "summon" REALLY literal, as in the thing that appears is a living, breathing lifeform, and it is only summoned by attacking. my logic might be flawed there though.

[ancient dragon]

It certainly is.
A summoner weapon's requirements are never that strict.

[kind parcel]

well, that's the fun thing about mistakes right? you can learn from them. so thank you for your help!

[ancient dragon]

Aye aye.

[tulip parcel]

Lihzahrd expansion reached 100 stars

Man I know that means nothing effectively but I’m still proud of it

[wicked swift]

It deserves that man.

[tulip parcel]

Thank you! 😊

[wicked swift]

I have never seen such a well-prepared and thought out suggestion

[ashen warren]

shame how hard it would be to code

hope it still gets in though

[wicked swift]

I don't think it'd be THAT hard to code

[kind parcel]

it's also been sent to the dev chat... 12 times...?

[tulip parcel]

No that’s just people reacting to it

It’s only sent once

[kind parcel]

...something's wrong here. can anyone add the checkmark, or only certain people?

[tulip parcel]

Someone has to add the initial check mark

And only devs do that

After that anyone can react to that

It won’t do anything though

[kind parcel]

ah, got it.

[quiet abyss]

People with cool dudes role can also add stars

[left crag]

@hollow shell yes that’s what I meant, I’ll change it right away

[hollow shell]

Goodie

[left crag]

Shit I can’t edit it

RIp

[hollow shell]

Just ping me again once it is edited

[earnest raptor]

Ballos's Staff
Summons projection of great priest to fight for you
Legendary summon weapon, drops from Providence with 1% chance.
If SCal has been defeated, it's have 25x higher damage.
Takes all possible minion slots.

Apperiance: see picture.
Patterns:

• Shoot a bone barrages, which ignores immunity frames and gravity.
• Casts a lighting bolts, which have a chance to instantly kill normal enemies and critically hit bosses.
• Hides in a cloak, summon eyes, which shoots a laser barrages to enemies.
• Drops to surface with tremendous damage from a hitwave.
• Dashes to bosses, simular to Yharon son's.

: Calamity doesn't have summon weapon in legendary equipment's tier. Also mod are lack's of complex minions.

Are good?

[ashen warren]

would this be clone tier or scal tier?

[ruby cobalt]

When were you warned again?

[earnest raptor]

Why?

[ruby cobalt]

I'm asking when, not why.

[earnest raptor]

When? Don't know.

[ruby cobalt]

Because the last logged instance of you receiving a warn is at 1/8/18

[ashen warren]

[earnest raptor]

@ruby cobalt aaand?

[ruby cobalt]

It should've been removed long ago.

[tulip parcel]

Goddamn

Boblyev got a rep

[stoic narwhal]

W8.

If the suggestion is sent to the dev server, can I repost?

After a long time has past?

[tulip parcel]

No

You cannot

[ruby cobalt]

Yes, you can.

[tulip parcel]

You can?

[ruby cobalt]

Then it receives a blue checkmark and nothing ever is done about it.

[tulip parcel]

Thought it was disallowed-ah

[worthy fiber]

It'll just be marked with ☑

[tulip parcel]

So you can, it’s just kind of ignored

[worthy fiber]

Pretty much

[ruby cobalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic narwhal]

Eh.

Okay.

[tulip parcel]

Anyway @earnest raptor while I think the idea is good to have a complex multi-attack minion there’s several issues I have with it

First, why does this drop from two bosses

Even if the second drop is an upgrade, you’re putting this on par with legendary items

Despite no significant change

If you want an item like that suggest an exo weapon

Second, why Ballos? Cave Story is cool, yeah, but you can do more with this than “summons ballos”

If I were writing a cave story minion weapon I would have it summon balrog and misery

Ballos isn’t a minion; they, functionally, are

You could even have it be the demon crown

[earnest raptor]

Ballos fits with Calamity's athosphere; and also, it's a Ballos shadow.

Not a real priest.

[kind parcel]

why not make it summon one of Ballos' eye rocks, from the last phase of his battle?

[radiant meadow]

Well, clone already drops a really good summon weapon already
Idk how well this would fit in progression

[earnest raptor]

Okay, Provi...

[radiant meadow]

Yes, summon weps are lacking for Prov and Polter

i frames ruin axe dps

[ruby cobalt]

Energy Staff

[worthy fiber]

Technically Moon Lord 🤔

[earnest raptor]

It's sentry

[radiant meadow]

Energy staff isn't enough to make summoner good for Prov

It still sucks

Another exo gun suggestion

[frail mantle]

[stoic narwhal]

lel hecc

[earnest raptor]

Ballos's Staff
Summons projection of great priest to fight for you
Legendary summon weapon, drops from Providence with 1% chance.
If SCal has been defeated, it's have 25x higher damage.
Takes all possible minion slots.

Apperiance: see picture.
Patterns:

• Shoot a bone barrages, which ignores immunity frames and gravity.
• Casts a lighting bolts, which have a chance to instantly kill normal enemies and critically hit bosses.
• Hides in a cloak, summon eyes, which shoots a laser barrages to enemies.
• Drops to surface with tremendous damage from a hitwave.
• Dashes to bosses, simular to Yharon son's.

why : Calamity doesn't have summon weapon in legendary equipment's tier. Also mod are lack's of complex minions.
Why Ballos? Ballos seems a good character, when it's hypothecally arrives to Calamity world: poweful apocalyptic wizard, which burns homeland to ash. It servants (Misery and Balrog) also symbolic and cool, but not enough for legendary weapon.

[stoic narwhal]

...reall.

you need your internet fixed topkek

[earnest raptor]

Oops, fixed.

Added some lore attach.

What's i'm should't change?

[plush remnant]

HEy, they made Xeroc a throwing based set

Time to design an all class armor for that teir to replace it

[hollow shell]

Elemental Armor 👀

[plush remnant]

I like where this is going

[hollow shell]

@shadow prism I don't think that adding more methods of obtaining them will make them less of a clusterfuck

[shadow prism]

yeah but it adds another way to get them

[hollow shell]

But I do approve of furniture/altars being in the crags

preferably Ancient

[shadow prism]

how should the system be fixed

[hollow shell]

Why do you need more ways to get them?
That's their problem currently

[shadow prism]

ye

[hollow shell]

It can be fixed by removing the cross-crafting aspect entirely
Just make them separate sets

[shadow prism]

yeah

and then maybe keep ancient > ashen with furniture + x and leave it

rather than all this other crap

[hollow shell]

"all this other" as in
ashen > ancient

You've got half of the problem resolved

(Unless you wanna remove all the separate Ashen recipes, making them only obtainable by repairing Ancients?)

[plush remnant]

I just realized, with the rework of Xeroc into the throwing set, my Profaned Armor suggestion has a fair shot of getting put in.

[hollow shell]

@inner rover Are they not usable?

[sleek wigeon]

wot

You know you can just... retoggle its visability right?

@inner rover

Thats all thats being toggled when you remove a pet buff, the visability of the slot

[lucid marsh]

I’d make the visibility toggle the speed effect with the slowing outside of water and faster speed in water but not the other effects like emitting light from the luminous amulet and whatever other good effects there are

[shadow prism]

nah then you’d have out of water 30% DR

its sole purpose is exploring the abyss post polter

[radiant meadow]

30% dr?

Abyssal diving plates only give 15% dr as of now blame Diamenciory for nerfs

[mystic glade]

Moth in a bottle
A simple item made from Solar Table fragments(8) and maybe(2 luminite?) at an Ancient Manipulator.
Consumable item used to summon Mothron during an eclipse. spawns a normal one before DoG defeated, spawns buffed up one after.

Reason: As of right now i have yet to find a mod that adds a summoning item for Mothron, there are summons for lots of other minibosses, such as Betsy's egg from Fargo's.
but theres none for Mothrons. Also ive noticed that for the people who really like to get a lot of items late game they need a lot of Darksun Fragments at end-game but Mothrons spawnrate is shit. (like 3 mothrons most time during 1 eclipse(at least for me))
in this way you can farm darksun fragments pretty easily

thoughts?

[tired haven]

Weren't plates nerfed to 20 instead of 15?

[lucid marsh]

Let me rephrase my previous idea: visibility toggles most but not all of the effects of the abyssal diving suit so that it’s slightly better than just the abyssal diving suit when not in the abyss or underwater. Maybe make some of the effects work in all water instead of just the abyss, or make them slowly fade out when you leave water

[inner rover]

I found the toggle for the extra slots! Wee

Now to edit out the issue with the visibility

[ruby cobalt]

@unique vector here's the thing - special role = potential bullying

yea yea, you're a patron, sure thing

but no, that's Fabsol's argument against it

[unique vector]

theres a lot of servers that have patron roles, if someone bullies just remove it and warn

eh, if he says no thats fine

i didnt know why it wasnt a thing is all

[ruby cobalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unique vector]

lemme delet

[ruby cobalt]

Tbh patrons should get special roles, I can just nuke people who bully you because you donated money.

[unique vector]

ask fab about it personally

[ruby cobalt]

I'll probably bring it up next time Fab's on (if I'm on too), maybe something will be worked out.

[unique vector]

bc he’ll prob listen to you more than me

alrighty

ty

[frosty kindle]

give bullies the "omega biff" treatment

[ruby cobalt]

Force them to play through the worst fangames ever created?

[frosty kindle]

hahaues

[ruby cobalt]

when are we doing a coop run

[frosty kindle]

when you find bullies to give the biff treatment to

[ruby cobalt]

no

I wanted to rope LompL into playing IWBTC with me

but nothing ever came out of it

[frosty kindle]

IWBTC?
all i know of is IWBTB because i completed it on the highest difficulty

[ruby cobalt]

I wanna be the Co-op

wait

you did a rage mode run?

[frosty kindle]

eeyup
replace g with p

[tulip parcel]

If patrons get special roles I want my role to be grey

That way I can pretend I don’t exist on this server

[frosty kindle]

or make it match perfectly with discord dark theme background

[tulip parcel]

Yaaaas

Camofrauds

[sleek wigeon]

@pure dove isnt that a feature?

[pure dove]

idk, but if there's an accessory that doesn't look good and you want to hide it, you can't without it not working

actually, I think it's the toggleable ability that doesn't work

like, press N to toggle ____

[hollow shell]

The visibility-to-make-the-shit-not-work is a feature

(some people have suggested binding it to a hotkey instead of visibility)

[faint rivet]

Having it on a hotkey would be nice

[rapid folio]

Would it be a terrible idea to have "Upgraded" versions of boss summons so it'd spawn boss rush versions of bosses for late game?

I've been thinking about suggesting it

[sinful violet]

for what purpose?

[hollow shell]

I feel like it'd be a good idea to be able to fight the Boss Rush versions of bosses individually
for practice

[sinful violet]

only thing i could think of is dps testing on a more mobile dummy

[worn bay]

Practicing their boss rush versions, also they could drop multiple treasure bags to help with grinding

[hollow shell]

But there's probably a more streamlined way to do it than alternates of all of the boss summons

[sinful violet]

^

that sounds spooky

[hollow shell]

Like, an activatable item post-SCal

[rapid folio]

Just to fight for end-game or practice

Not sure if they should drop anything though

since well, what's to drop at that point? lol

[worn bay]

fair enough, maybe at least potions just so they drop something

[hollow shell]

Yeah we already have Armageddon for dropping multiple treasure bags

[rapid folio]

unless it's like a post prov case and they drop auric cells or something

[gusty geode]

That spreading Astral thing

Yes please, it should have done that from the start

[worn bay]

Fab has said he hates spreading biomes

[gusty geode]

Sure, I have nothing against that

But by this biome's very concept, there is zero reason it shouldn't spread. You would think the Astral Infection would, you know, infect the world over time.

[spice cedar]

It's literally called an infection, plus you can buy the solution, realistically it should spread.

[ruby cobalt]

fuck

[worn bay]

I agree with you guys

But afaik Fab just hates spreading biomes so it's not gonna happen

[ruby cobalt]

when do we get ❎

[fervent zealot]

that's a very conflicted emote

is it acceptance or is it denial

[rapid folio]

So I just wrote it out, what do you guys think?

Post-Boss Rush Summons

After Boss Rush is completed, "upgraded" summons for all bosses can be crafted to summon Boss Rush versions of said Boss.
They can either be obtained at Dradeon's Forge for free after Boss Rush, or crafted using [X Boss Summon + 1 Calamitous Essence]

Like in Boss Rush, these summons can be used anywhere since there's no biome restriction.
Since Wall of Flesh is the exception, using that upgraded summon could teleport you to the Underworld.

: This could be a nice addition to the late game to either practice specific bosses for Boss Rush, Test damage for end game weapons, or just to fight tougher versions of your favorite boss.

[hollow shell]

Kinda defeats the "practice" point if you have it after the Boss Rush

[fervent zealot]

and recipe might be better as boss summon + 1 calamitous essence

[frail mantle]

^

[night cradle]

^^

[rapid folio]

I see, then perhaps it could be just avaliable after Yharon or SCal?

[uncut jetty]

Cower, fools! Merasmus is here! I was thinking instead of shooting out grenades, it just summons grenades out of the air around you and then shoots them about

that is sort of what it does in game anyways

[frosty kindle]

a... grenade summoning staff?

or tome

seems like a p cool idea tbh

[fervent zealot]

aye

can't go wrong with making grenades viable

[frosty kindle]

and even dynamite

[gusty geode]

Actually I really like the idea of a buffed Boss Rush
It could have you face off against the bosses of the difficulty above yours (Expert Mode AI in Normal Mode as an example), and if you took it on when on Death Mode, it would put you through a pseudo-5th difficulty (maybe reference Kirby with recolored "EX" bosses?) where the difficulty goes to levels considered too much by normal people
But if you're willing to put yourself through that you're probably not normal anyway

[rapid folio]

Fixed it up a bit, how's it look now?

Calamitous Boss Upgrades

After Supreme Calamitas is defeated, "upgraded" summons for all bosses can be crafted to summon End Game versions of said boss.

Stats of all bosses will be the same as Boss Rush.

They can be crafted at Dradeon's Forge using [X Boss Summon + 1 Calamitous Essence].

Like in Boss Rush, these summons can be used anywhere with no biome restriction.
Since Wall of Flesh is the exception, using that upgraded summon could teleport you to the Underworld.

: This could be a nice addition to the late game to either practice specific bosses for Boss Rush, Test damage for end game weapons and armors, or just to fight tougher versions of your favorite boss.

[sacred thorn]

or there could also be summons for multiple bosses at the same time that are buffed like the draedons remote,

there could be a cursed looking food and it can summon EoC, EoW, and Skeletron

[ashen warren]

All sounds good to me 👍

[weary merlin]

All bosses at once

[gusty geode]

So Fargo's

[lucid marsh]

@sacred thorn that’s the exact opposite of how black holes work, so I’d say this specifically is a terrible idea

[pliant bone]

Rename it to white hole

[ashen warren]

I have a crazy dumb idea

What if selecting "save and quit" while the Wall of Flesh is alive gave you a jumpscare

[pliant bone]

WoFfle close-up maybe

[ashen warren]

Yeah

Perpective

That'd freak the complete shit out of me

[sacred thorn]

or spawn it spawns in a DoG

[ashen warren]

Not nearly as scary honestly

needs something completely unexpected

[sacred thorn]

what if it prints out an image of a blue screen of death

[ashen warren]

pft

Too reliant on operating system, and it's been done

[olive bolt]

@sacred thorn I have a suggestion that builds off of and modifies the suggestion you made about the calamity devs adding a throwing pillar because the concept behind it sounds interesting, but at the same time a bit off slightly from the theme of the pillars: instead of the "blackhole pillar" it could be revised to say "Nova pillar" which would better relate to the far-off space feel of the lunar event, and to fit this you could take your idea for the miniboss to one that occasionally has medium-range AoE attack that looks like a supernova (animated, and still related to your original idea as a supernova can result in a black hole). Speaking of black holes I think building off of the black hole idea, another good suggestion could be an occasional black hole that results from the AoE attack that sucks the player towards it and deals 2-5 armor piercing damage per ticket for 3 seconds unless the rod of discord is used. I think this suggestion could incorporate features of a "blackhole-type" pillar while still maintaining the feel of the original four lunar-event pillars.

---just noticed how long the thing I typed ended up being. Oof

[alpine copper]

Nova pillar is a tremor thing

[olive bolt]

I thought my idea for a name sounded familiar

[alpine copper]

But there are other celestial bodies to use

[neon panther]

tremor

[olive bolt]

Also I typed "per ticket damage" when I meant to type "per tick"

[pliant bone]

Ticketh

Inb4, blackhole nades

[marsh gust]

nah

[alpine copper]

Red giant, neutron star, wormhole,

[marsh gust]

what we truly need is exo beenades

[sacred thorn]

...yes

[alpine copper]

Van allen fragment?

You know, the van allen belts?

[brave warren]

gamma-ray

[alpine copper]

Er.... i might have to keep thinking

Wait......

If xeroc is being moved to throwing class......

What about......

Xeroc pillar

[sacred thorn]

sorry but has nothing to do with space iirc

[alpine copper]

Yeah but why not?

[brave warren]

with a pillar it may be better to just make it space-themed instead of just his name

[alpine copper]

Asteroid fragment?

[pliant bone]

Nop

[sleek wigeon]

Cosmic Pillar

[alpine copper]

Meteoric fragment?
And the tooltip would be "what? An actual meteor is way bigger!"

[sleek wigeon]

Meteors are already a thing

[alpine copper]

Or maybe Comet Fragment

[worn bay]

I think Comet is probably good

[sleek wigeon]

Or cosmic

[worn bay]

Since comets fly and shit

[sleek wigeon]

Cosmic Fragment

[sacred thorn]

Moon pillar

[worn bay]

Moon Lord already exists

[sacred thorn]

or whast about blackhole pillar like i first came up with

[alpine copper]

A blackhole is more a cosmic anomaly than a celestial body

[sacred thorn]

isnt a vortex that too?

[alpine copper]

True

[sacred thorn]

you have a suggestion mecha?

[sleek wadi]

Divine Statis Set
Crafted with the following materials at Draedon's Forge:
Statis Armor with summoner helmet
Stardust Armor
All 4 gel types
Stardust
Souls of Light
Souls of Night
Darksun Fragments

Divine Statis Mask
Summons a Slime God Core but with 4 spirals, each color representing a spreading biome. Flies fast enough to reliably stick to Yharon and inflicts distortion. Ignores i-frames
Summons benefit from crit chance by getting a damage boost scaling with crit chance, 2crit:1damage.

Divine Statis Chainmail
Summons 4 Slime Gods, 1 for each spread biome. Slime Gods are about the size of the player. AI is a faster SG. Ignores i-frames.
Crimulean Slime God inflicts Ichor
Corrupted Slime God inflicts Cursed Flames
Hollowed Slime God inflicts Holy Flames
Astral Slime God inflicts Godslayer Inferno

Divine Statis Leggings
All Summons now attach a mini-slime to enemies, acting like a stronger Stardust Cell Staff.

Set Bonus:
Every 15 seconds, spawn an orbiting slime that blocks a projectile. Can spawn up to 4 orbiting slimes
Rev+ Summoner penalty is reversed. Summons always deal full damage and other class weapons deal 30% damage.

[sacred thorn]

4 gel types?

[sleek wadi]

Gel, Purified Gel, Pink Gel, Blighted Gel

[sacred thorn]

ohhh

i like it

except change the 15 seconds to like 30 or even 60 seconds

15 seems too op

[sleek wadi]

Probably need to add that it only blocks 1 projectile. It gets hit, then it despawns. Also needs to collide with said projectile.

Besides, numbers would not be up to me

[sacred thorn]

true

i just realized that in order to fit with the whole calamity theme we could make a astral pillar for throwing

[lost agate]

Uh idk

[sacred thorn]

actually nvm

[lost agate]

That could be a neat idea but weird to execute

[real parrot]

plus, where would the extra pillar go?

[sacred thorn]

besides its like adding a corruption or crimson pillar

[olive bolt]

You could have an optional pillar that can be summoned in during the lunar event that spawns at your current location, but that may inconvenient.

[sacred thorn]

or it could be located on the planetoid

main one

[ashen warren]

PIllars float into space if you wait too long

That would mean you need to get the astral one ASAP

[sacred thorn]

really? iirc they sank down into the ground

[delicate raft]

^

[ashen warren]

"The longer the time taken to defeat a Pillar, the deeper it will sink into the ground, but very slowly." my bad