suggestions-discussion

[alpine copper]

................

Artyom copying and idea from thorium doesnt seem like something good to do

[sinful violet]

What're you on about?

The cook is a tremor NPC

[tulip parcel]

No he’s split

Get it right

[alpine copper]

We dont speak about tremor in this christian server

[worn bay]

Lmao

i remember reading a thread where the OP was doing a comprehensive mod balancing list, and they said tremor was and calamity wasn't

[soft grail]

anyone got the astral pallete? i'd like to get #spriting to try out making the meteor mash

[worn bay]

Whenever I sprite I just grab all the relevant sprites

[sinful violet]

art server

ask there

and you can nab the relevant colors from anything on the wiki

[alpine copper]

Hopefully tremor 2 is balanced and good

[worn bay]

I think it has an infinite flight mount from the first boss

[sinful violet]

Great

offtopic, but fantastic

glad to see they've made some changes to the quality of the first

[worn bay]

https://antiaris.gamepedia.com/Antlion_Queen_Egg yep

big oof

It does seem to be higher quality overall, just worse balance

well, same balance

sorry this belongs in #other-mod-talk

[little raptor]

-._-.

[lusty idol]

Sharing suggestions that incorporate Calamitous Essence is ok, right? Just not Shadowspec Bars? I want to make sure because I get worried with rules and stuff.

[cyan lagoon]

yes apparently

[tulip parcel]

It’s kind of a loophole though

[lusty idol]

Yeeser. This is a repost from a while back. Please take note of the disclaimer for anyone viewing. And let me know if the link doesn't work.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14RsFpwj-H_gXubEeH46bxPUQUemViZdQ_xOTIok_Cdk/edit?usp=sharing

I love your Battle Cats pfp. I used to grind that game a couple years ago.

[lunar berry]

yes

[lusty idol]

I heard there were some problems with image sharing. I think it became too spammy for this discord, and was removed.

Also, idk about requesting that role from mods/admins. You'd have to be a Cool Dude to probably receive it, not members.

[quiet abyss]

Cool Dudes already have permissions to post images in #general-talk and #general-media , so they don't need this role

[radiant meadow]

and in a month or so, #general-media image perms will be removed if there are very few warns in the channel

at least, that's what Lilac said

[worthy fiber]

@ashen warren Fab's already considered the idea before

Don't know if it's guaranteed to happen, but he's talked about it before

[tulip parcel]

Oh thank you

I modified it to be half battlecat half pusheen

Recently I put a Santa hat on it

[keen onyx]

honestly it'd be pretty rad if we got a calamitas npc from doing the pacifist thing with her

[worn bay]

I was about to say that i think it's a little silly to 'reason with' a boss but if that's the reward I love it

[keen onyx]

by the end of the actual fight she really doesn't seem to look like any kind of big bad enemy, i'd dare say with her dialogue she seems like someone who could be brought over to the alternate side

it's very clear she doesn't like yharim.

why not have her join you? 😄

[ashen warren]

The most effective way to get a calamitas npc is capturing and then reasoning

[sinful violet]

sure, i'll get my bug net

[keen onyx]

pokeball *

[worn bay]

lmao

[ashen warren]

You don't convince an enemy to your side that you're beating up

[lusty idol]

golden bug net *

[keen onyx]

yeah but the suggestion was not fighting her at all

at least not fighting back

[ashen warren]

That dies in your presence then

[worn bay]

The suggestion says that she doesn't die at the end, the "poison" effect is just a gameplay thing to have her be defeated

[sinful violet]

you do with pokemon

iirc poison increases capture rates too

[keen onyx]

she just progressively loses health to indicate battle progression

[worn bay]

^

[ashen warren]

pokemon is cockfighting though

[sinful violet]

gross

[lucid oracle]

@quiet abyss Cool Dudes is also an exclusive role that you get from Fabsol. It has more attached to it than just "hey I guess we'll let you post images if you don't abuse it"

You gotta be a cool dude to get that special role

[wind flicker]

You can also post images just by putting it anywhere in discord, right click > copy link then paste the link, people see the image if they click the link

[lucid oracle]

and then senpai notices you

[frosty kindle]

the difference with image links is that nobody is forced to see it

[quiet abyss]

I was responding to his message of "You'd have to be a Cool Dude to probably receive it"

[frosty kindle]

usually CD is for actual trusted people who won't abuse powers

[lusty idol]

I never knew they had that perm. Noiceu.

Because im not a cool dude

[frosty kindle]

also nickname perms for themselves

[lucid oracle]

@wind flicker Issue with that is you need somewhere to upload the image

Discord is lame and doesn't let you upload it and only send a link

You gotta actually put it somewhere first

[worn bay]

Just make a server

[wind flicker]

Yeah, just send it to a friend or put it in a private discord

Then get the link

[frosty kindle]

prnt.scr or have the original image link ready, like if you were looking up something on discord

[lucid oracle]

@frosty kindle Print screen doesn't work since you need to upload the image, which this discord doesn't let most people do. You'd need to post it in another discord, or make your own discord specifically for this. Or PM someone

[worn bay]

Yea

[lucid oracle]

Or go through an image uploader but why would you ever do such a thing

[worn bay]

That is what you would have to do

SPend an additional .2 seconds

[frosty kindle]

image uploaders work in no time for me

[lucid oracle]

I hope I don't need to explain to you why posting an image in another discord to send it here is unreasonable

[worn bay]

it's not

[frosty kindle]

back when i was a no-role i used image uploaders all the time and it worked

[wind flicker]

I just DM a bot the image or something similar

[lucid oracle]

I guess bots work, but still. This was all besides the original point.

[keen onyx]

@sturdy latch you aren't supposed to get that staff before the devourer dies.

[wind flicker]

Also, I feel like mods probably have enough to deal with without about 10,000 people asking them for a role

[sturdy latch]

Oh.

[lucid oracle]

That's fair

[keen onyx]

same goes for phantasmal fury and the venusian trident

[sturdy latch]

Understood, my bad

[keen onyx]

s'all good

[radiant meadow]

in fact, its a better suggestion to make alpha ray and magnetic meltdown craftable at a Draedon's Forge

since for some reason they only need manipulator

[keen onyx]

apparently they aren't powerful enough to be considered post-devourer

[radiant meadow]

they are post devourer though

they need cosmilite

[keen onyx]

... oh

then i have no idea

... how about you just put that suggestion up there then?

[radiant meadow]

that's exactly why they're weird

[shadow prism]

you forgot starmada

[alpine garnet]

could nerf and put pre-devourer possibly?

[radiant meadow]

starmada too?

[alpine garnet]

since post doggo already has alpha ray and magnetic

[radiant meadow]

well, starmada is getting buffed next update

[shadow prism]

starmada is made at an ancient manipulator

[radiant meadow]

added it

[keen onyx]

yeah can i get Drataliornus to be crafted by hand please-

[radiant meadow]

ok, but heavenly gale still needs draedon's forge

[keen onyx]

t'was a joke, friend.

[shadow prism]

btw could someone send my reusable permanent upgrades for color, wizard sells mirror and ethereal/heart color swap suggestions

[lucid oracle]

Just going off the discussion in bug posting, is there any reason to not enable the immunity to be on a per-projectile/attack basis on all weapons, rather than a global thing?

It doesn't seem to be a useful feature in the slightest. If a certain weapon starts overperforming because of it, the easy solution would be to lower the damage of that weapon until it performs as it used to. It's also not a very intuitive system, either. Who would've thought that hitting an enemy with the sword would lower the damage the sword does

[sleek wigeon]

"make a post doggo weapon pre doggo cuz reasons"

[brave warren]

the Buffdate

[proven tide]

oh no it the obligatory ut/dr suggestion

I knew this was going to happen sooner or later

[lost agate]

Undertale much?

[lunar berry]

Pacifist route

[lost agate]

Also, thats not what lore wants

Lore says "kill all those suckers"

[lunar berry]

Not necessarily

It just outlines their story

It doesnt say ‘lol you have to kil them no matter what’

[lucid oracle]

Here's the question

What would such a thing add to a game that's about killing the bosses?

Is there a reason to add a mechanic that removes the main gameplay?

[lunar berry]

Maybe this could be limited

Something like

When SCal gives up

And you dont attack for 1 min or something

Something cool happens

[worthy fiber]

Again, Fab's already considered the idea before

[lunar berry]

Haha knew it

[worthy fiber]

He talked about it here once

[lunar berry]

Wait what

[worthy fiber]

It's not like I can find the conversation, but yeah

Few months back

[lunar berry]

Um

Discord search?

[worthy fiber]

What keyword would I use

[lunar berry]

Um

‘Pacifist’

‘Give up’

[marsh gust]

pacifist route yes

[lunar berry]

YeEs

Also make sure its fab that sends them

[marsh gust]

none

[worthy fiber]

Can't find it, so you'll just have to take my word for it

[lunar berry]

Is calamitas undead in any way

[marsh gust]

she is a living witch smh

[lunar berry]

Frick

[worthy fiber]

nvm found it

[lunar berry]

Then my Smite V diamond sword wont do anything

Nice

[marsh gust]

why diamond sword when tridents exist

[lunar berry]

Cuz it never rains

And i have channeling

[marsh gust]

then power V bow.

[lunar berry]

Oh yea

[placid perch]

But is she a spider?

[lunar berry]

Power V infinity bow to the rescue

[marsh gust]

SCal vs wooden bow but its power V

[lunar berry]

Yes calamitas is a spider

time to get bane of Arthropods V on my other spare diamond sword

[placid perch]

Grabs Bane of Arthropods V Diamond Sword

I knew you would have a practical use one day

Maybe a storymode thing could be made

[lunar berry]

But tats impossible

The bane of arthropods sword will be covered in so much spiderwebs and dust that you wont be able to pull it out

[placid perch]

Where you need certain items to reason with each boss

[marsh gust]

ironic

[placid perch]

Like a Heart Crystal and show King Slime some love

[marsh gust]

so i think if it'll be a thing there'll be a seperate bar

[lunar berry]

What

[marsh gust]

and using that items will deplete the bar, if bar down boss defeated

IF its going pacifist route

so have HP bar and another bar idk

[lunar berry]

How about just dodging its attacks for 10 hours until it gives up

How does that sound

Good? Perfect

[marsh gust]

sounds like leviathan fight

[placid perch]

Maybe a item like rev that changes the gameplay

5 Heart Crystals, 1 Love Potion, 5 Silk = Valentine's Gift

For King Slime

30 Glass, 20 Iron Bars, 30 Lens = Cyclops Glasses

For Eye of Cthrulu

[lucid oracle]

Okay but what do they do

[placid perch]

I said up there

[marsh gust]

it'll be hard to implement imo

[lucid oracle]

Oh

But why

[placid perch]

For a pacifist route of the game

[marsh gust]

cause snas

[placid perch]

Story

Development

[lucid oracle]

But again, why have a way to avoid fighting the boss in a game about fighting the boss

[marsh gust]

.> is it about killing innocents like providence and slime god?

yes.

[placid perch]

It would be like Rev that changes the game

You wouldn't get the items

But inatead a gift, with a a special item from them

[pliant bone]

Duke dickron and BoC are just bitches.
No way I would show mercy to them

xd

[placid perch]

Well most of them are misunderstood

You are a meneance to them

Killing all in your way

[pliant bone]

The mch bosses are just plained programmed to kill though so thats three unspareable boss

[placid perch]

Yeah

But take it from their perspective

[pliant bone]

But like, the suggested Desert scourge going to the ocean idea thing could lead to very big cheeses

And other similar ideas

[placid perch]

You just came to Terraria uninvited and killed innocent Slimes

A mass murderer

[pliant bone]

Slimes are the bane of my very existence
Yeah

Im talking to you SG

[marsh gust]

SG is neutral

you just.. kill him

without any reason

[placid perch]

Then you started deforesting the area

[lucid oracle]

he tries to kill you first

[marsh gust]

but you summoned him

[lucid oracle]

Slime rain disagrees

[marsh gust]

thats KS not SG smh >.>

[placid perch]

Slime rain cant happen on first day

[lucid oracle]

fuck

Also slimes are hostile on the first day

[marsh gust]

only when you hit them

[placid perch]

After youve killed hundreds

[marsh gust]

theyre neutral.

[placid perch]

Exactly

[lucid oracle]

🤔 Slimes always jump on you on the first day

[pliant bone]

Preforators well dont really have a sense of morals and want to straight be your next host.

[marsh gust]

then jump over them

[placid perch]

They are juat Parasites

[marsh gust]

perforators has no sense of AI as well.. perf hive likes to give me hugs

[lucid oracle]

Also they're hostile at night, anyway

Underground slimes are also always hostile

[placid perch]

They arent there at night

[lucid oracle]

They are if it switches over to night while slimes have spawned

[placid perch]

They are cut off from the rest of the world

Really?

[lucid oracle]

Well yeah, they don't just vanish

[placid perch]

Ive never had that happen

They kinda just run away

[lucid oracle]

Also underground slimes are still hostile so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[placid perch]

Like Zombies and day

Well you go on a mass genocide nonetheless

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Plus the guide is Evil

So they are wary of humans

He attacks anything he sees

[umbral dune]

Expansion of drinking challenge:
Red Bull Drinking Challenge
Accessory
Whenever you get hit you drink a Red Bull, giving you 1 Red Bull stack. After 30 seconds of not drinking Red Bull, you lose 1 Red Bull stack. Drinking also gives you potion sickness for 10 seconds or adding 10 seconds of potion sickness if you already have potion sickness.
Each Red Bull stack you have gives you -1 life regen and makes you 10% faster
While having 7 or more Red Bull stacks, moving more than 60 mph for 3 seconds will make your heart explode and you die.
There is no limit to how many Red Bull stacks you can have.

(this is a joke I'm not actually suggesting this)

[lucid oracle]

I thought it would give you wings

smh

[umbral dune]

Giving wings is unrealistic. Dying of heart explosion due to too much Red Bull is realistic.

[worn bay]

your heart flies away

[placid perch]

Fair enough

[worn bay]

it grows wings and flies out of your chest

killing you instantly

[lucid oracle]

Giving wings is unrealistic

[placid perch]

After all this is a game about eyeballs flying around at night

[lucid oracle]

But red bull gives you wings

[umbral dune]

hey the eyes are magical that makes sense

and the twins are mechanical and it's possible to make things fly

Everything in Terraria has an explanation

but a drink giving you wings

does not work

[lucid oracle]

But you see

Red Bull gives you wings

[umbral dune]

but that is a lie

[lucid oracle]

https://youtu.be/K31dg86OmuM

wrong

[umbral dune]

if you look closely at the end of the current commercials, it will say "Does not actually give wings"

[lucid oracle]

It's just a conspiracy

[umbral dune]

I give in

[lucid oracle]

Also, they got sued for $13 million over "Red Bull gives you wings"

Really makes you think, huh

[umbral dune]

ik

that's why they have that at the end now

[lucid oracle]

Can't believe madmen actually sued them over it 😂

[umbral dune]

Hey, I mean that's enough money to live the rest of your life with no worries.

I would sue them too.

[lucid oracle]

They paid $10 to everyone who ever bought a can

[umbral dune]

(I feel like this is getting too far away from actual suggestions... I think it's 🕐 to 🛑)

[lucid oracle]

[radiant pawn]

That mercy method of defeating bosses isnt UT/DR much wtf

It would be a cool concept

To show what's mercy, to those innocent monsters who Yharim didnt show any pity or mercy whatsoever

But others are literal abominations that need to die-

[digital sparrow]

Yeah try attempting to reason with the Ravager or PBG

[bitter flower]

reasoning with moon lord

[marsh gust]

I'll bring cthulhu back to life
really?
yes
I'll be on your si- (gets stabbed)
the dead can never be resurrected

[bitter flower]

or golem

showing mercy to aureus, it opens up revealing astrageldon slime

[marsh gust]

[lunar berry]

thicc suggstion

[marsh gust]

the only flaw is cinder is for flying enemies

[bitter flower]

as flies

for like 90% of the fight

even though its supposed to be a sea worm

[marsh gust]

[bitter flower]

there was also a suggestion for sentinels to drop essence i think

[night cradle]

Yeah, I remember it.

[cyan lagoon]

While language translations would definitely be a good thing

We would need some translators then which is more trouble than its usually worth

So maybe one day, but not for a good while @tardy rover

[tardy rover]

[worthy fiber]

Wasn't there an old dev before who offered to translate the mod in Chinese?

Don't think anything came out of that iirc

[civic rampart]

Making ml drops craftable from exodium clusters? And stuff of course

[ashen warren]

"And stuff of course" you wanna... elaborate on that?

[lost agate]

Exodium is really limited

[worthy fiber]

tbh I don't think any Luminite-related suggestions are getting in

[teal shoal]

[worthy fiber]

"Make Luminite obtainable from X!"

[tulip parcel]

Make it obtainable from slime king

It’s only fair

[worthy fiber]

[ashen warren]

You wouldn't be able to use it until cultist anyway so not that bad tbh

[tulip parcel]

Actually nah you know what

Make luminite into something the wiz sells

And he only sells it during full moons

[civic rampart]

For the drops-
Star wrath:
starfury + 2 core of cinder + 30 exodium + 2 luminite bars
Meowmere:
Broken hero sword + rainbow gun + core of chaos + 2 luminite bars
Terrarian:
1 luminite bar + string + the eye of cthulhu(yoyo) + core of chaos
Sdmg:
minishark + core of cinder + 2 luminite bars + 30 depth cells
Last prism:
15 of every gem(diamond, ruby etc.) + 3 core of chaos + 3 luminite bars
Lunar flare:
Spell tome + 3 core of cinder + 1 luminite bar + flare gun

What else eh?

[marsh gust]

the sentry staves

[worthy fiber]

Celebration

[civic rampart]

Oh thks

[potent vortex]

@tardy rover speak English and you are in wrong channel (i think)

[tardy rover]

[worthy fiber]

They're suggesting to add a spanish translation, I think

[tulip parcel]

I have some argie friends who might be able translate the mod

[marsh gust]

yea

[tulip parcel]

But I don’t know if they would

[worthy fiber]

I guess it just depends on volunteers

Active volunteering too, seeing how the mod updates a bt often

[tulip parcel]

Who can I talk to bout volunteers

[worthy fiber]

...Fabsol?

Or at least let a dev know

[civic rampart]

Lunar portal sentry:
5 Galactic singularity + luminite bar + wand of sparking + core of chaos
Rainbow crystal(forgot name):
The duke fishron summon + core of chaos + luminite bar + rainbow gun
Celebration:
Party girl stuff(preferably fireworks) + luminite bar + core of chaos

[marsh gust]

the duke fishron summon

very specific, i like this guy

[low hedge]

nerf a boss because of one ranged weapon

[civic rampart]

Ref to the item tooltip

[marsh gust]

oh well 🤷 its bradley anyways

[cyan lagoon]

@heavy nexus We are not going to nerf a boss all because of one weapon

There are alot more alternatives other than Stormbow

[ashen warren]

Not just 1 ranged wep but also one strong ranged wep

[ruby cobalt]

Cob.

He's a known brainlet.

He doesn't respond to anything.

[ashen warren]

I don't know the extent of the cheesebow nerf but destroyer was ez pz for ages

[marsh gust]

it is

[ashen warren]

I doubt he got any kind of hard

[ruby cobalt]

25% reduced damage, that's about it

[low hedge]

but muh meta pepehands

[civic rampart]

Piercing weaps and walk strat are still op on destroyer tho

[tulip parcel]

So you think it's alright to poke a dev about fan translation?

'cause I have a couple friends from SA who'd do it

though they might want like, an item for it or something

[cyan lagoon]

As far as i know none of us can translate it to ESP/SPA atm

and we probably won't for a while

[tulip parcel]

I mean, they can though

they speak pretty good english too

they're not on this server mind

if there's no plans for a SPA version at all then that's fine, I'd just like to offer it up

'cause it's definitely something I can arrange

[tulip parcel]

Dagon
Hardmode Tool
Reaver Shark + Rockfish + Sawtooth Shark + 1 Soul of Fright, Might and Sight @ Mythril Anvil

A grotesque looking fish abomination, pieced together from three different types of fish. Dagon acts similarly to the Hamdrax in that it's capable of serving as an axe, pickaxe and hammer all in one tool. Considerable as a "fish" alternative to the Drax, costing no hallowed bars to make yet still requiring all three mechanical bosses to have died.

uhhh... should I add a like "why should this be added"?

I came up with this while fishing, I realized that it's super useless in calamity at the moment

[ashen warren]

I already don't use the hampick

It's really annoying to use

[tulip parcel]

Would this be better if it were like, just a really strong hamaxe?

[ashen warren]

Astral hamaxe tbh but whatever

Pick-axe?

[tulip parcel]

would it be better if dagon was a -weapon- instead

like not at all a tool

and crafted using weapon fishes

I just got an idea... hmm

[ashen warren]

Honestly I need to go because I'm about to collapse

Just do you

[quiet abyss]

@summer charm First of, elaborate more.
“Change boss AI in a way that makes true melee easier to play” is quite vague
Second, implementing a second set of AI for every boss would be very painful and time consuming, and that’s not worth the effort for just making a class easier to play.
Especially when we already have other things on our plates

[summer charm]

Fair enough, sorry.

[tulip parcel]

Dagon
"God of the Sea"
Hardmode Classless Weapon
Bladetongue + Toxikarp + Frost Daggerfish + Crystal Serpent @ Mythril Anvil

A grotesque amalgamation of four different kinds of fish, Dagon is intended to be one more tool in a summoner's arsenal, akin to the Golden Gun and Lunic Eye.

In keeping with its theme of "fish combined", Dagon combines the attacks of all four of its components into one singular weapon.

A. The weapon autoswings like a melee weapon, damaging enemies and spitting a stream of ichor when an enemy is struck this way. This stream of ichor does lower damage but inflicts ichor debuff.
B. If a target is hit by the melee attack, a stream of bubbles rises up from beneath the ground, lightly homing in on enemies and dealing moderate damage on contact, inflicting poison as well.
C. If no target is hit by the melee component of Dagon, five frost daggerfish will rain from the sky to home in on enemies.
D. If no target is hit by the melee component of Dagon, a pink stream of energy is fired from the weapon, functioning identically to the Crystal Serpent's projectile. This projectile will, however, apply Marked For Death on hit.

Why this should be added: More options for summoners to use, I feel, would greatly improve the experience of playing one. Additionally, this weapon has two seperate "modes" to it. The user could opt to stay in melee range to benefit from A and B, gaining a significant increase to their damage output but putting themselves at risk. Or they could play it safe with C and D, hanging back and staying safe.

What do you think of this? I heavily reworked it to be more of a summoner option than a tool

it's a bit of a fustercluck I know, but that's intentional

[radiant meadow]

do the piercing parts ignore i frames?

cuz that's a big issue with golden gun and lunic eye

[tulip parcel]

yeah, otherwise this weapon would suck

there's too many low damage projectiles for it to not ignore iframes, at least partially

maybe the daggerfish and the bubbles ignore it

[delicate raft]

@little raptor I guess that's up to Dokuro

[lost agate]

Which i guess he aint gonna do

[tulip parcel]

hey @hearty yew sorry to ping you but what's the dev team's stance on a SPA version?

I have a couple friends who could definitely translate it, though they might want like an item or something for it

[hearty yew]

calamity refuses to be translated for now and I don't remember the reasons why

it is understood that that's a good thing that should happen, but the answer is "not yet"

[tulip parcel]

fair enough

lemme know if that changes

[ashen warren]

Maybe Fab wants it more finished first so it doesn't have to be redone every update?

[astral gust]

vorbis you got me very excited when i first saw the word dagon

was thinking you made it a dota reference

[tulip parcel]

Oh, nah

I was referring to uh

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Dagon

Also commonly seen in lovecraft lore

[astral gust]

moby dick weapon when

[tulip parcel]

If I were to make a dota reference it would probably be either a divine rapier or a tango

[astral gust]

how would tango be practical tho

but rapier seems cool

[tulip parcel]

Easy, they’re just a bundle of regen potions purchasable from dryad

[astral gust]

regen potion which is required to be used on a tree to work

[tulip parcel]

But eh, I’m not sure how well a dota ref would be received, let alone fitting into calamity

[wise pollen]

What's a boss rusb?

[lost agate]

Something somethin new update

[jolly mirage]

Something somethin item named terminus
Something somethin get it by killing Yharon or reaching the bottom of the abyss

[agile cloud]

or both

[tulip parcel]

Astral Knurl
Drop from Atlas in Astral Biome

A clump of stardust, dirt, sand and snow, with their colors slowly changing to the astral's trademark purple.

Increases health regen, grants a light amount of damage resistance, grants 40 health, and causes the user to emit light. Their left side will emit orange light, while their right side will emit blue light.

[agile cloud]

Maybe nerf that to 30 or 20 health

if this is early HM, 40 is a bit much

[tulip parcel]

yeah, astral is pretty early HM

alright, maybe 30 health instead

[agile cloud]

Thats more reasonable

I'm guessing like 5% DR, correct?

[tulip parcel]

yeah, 5 or 7 at most

probably 5

[agile cloud]

Post it

Not a bad suggestion

[tulip parcel]

there needs to be more "standalone" accessories

and the astral biome needs to be fleshed out

[astral gust]

fuck

[agile cloud]

I agree

[tulip parcel]

the way I see it, this is two birds with one stone

[agile cloud]

Basically

[astral gust]

i wrote an entire post for a hakkero weapon (as in the one from touhou)

i accidentally deleted everything

[agile cloud]

rip

so basically a gap - filler

[tulip parcel]

just gonna warn you

[astral gust]

essentially yeah

[tulip parcel]

last prism is getting an upgrade

and soon

[agile cloud]

so basically not much point

[astral gust]

[agile cloud]

unless you want a 10 damage difference

[astral gust]

i'll just scrap that

gonna play safe with the suggestions

although i really do want a hakkero weapon in this game

[agile cloud]

Code it yourself

There is a mod template in tmodloader discord

[sleek wigeon]

@winter tangle there is a peaceful option
Its called not fucking murderizing everything and everyone just because you can. you could fight DS. Or you could not kill a creature who doesnt show up unless you summon him.

[wind flicker]

Technically you could win the game by only fighting WoF, Golem, Lunatic Cultist, Moon Lord, and Post-ML Bosses

[astral gust]

you're forgetting plantarbo

[sleek wigeon]

You dont need golem or plantera

You can fight cultists as soon as HM starts

[agile cloud]

^^

[sleek wigeon]

^^ means 2 messages ahead in some situations, you should use single arrow if you dont want to get the meaning confused

[agile cloud]

Oh

even though 2 messages above did work in that situation

[astral gust]

Iron Rings
Stolen straight from the Highest of Native Gods
The Iron Rings is a Hardmode Post-Golem Throwing Weapon crafted from:
~25 Iron Bars + 8 Beetle Husks + 3 Living Shards + 3 Cores of Cinder
This weapon throws at an arc and bounces 3 times before exploding. When hit by this weapon, the target will be inflicted by Broken Armor for 10 Seconds.

hold on broken armor is literally broken for this shit

uhh maybe just regular ichor?

[worthy fiber]

@heavy nexus Why would that fit in Calamity :P

[astral gust]

and yeah that suggestion would be more fit for overhaul more than anything

[heavy nexus]

transfer it over.

[astral gust]

Iron Rings
Stolen straight from the Highest of Native Gods
Damage: ~60-70
Speed: Fast
The Iron Rings is a Hardmode Post-Golem Throwing Weapon crafted from:
~25 Iron Bars + 8 Beetle Husks + 3 Living Shards + 3 Cores of Cinder
This weapon throws at an arc and bounces 3 times before exploding into 2 smaller versions of the rings. When hit by this weapon, the target will be inflicted by Ichor for 8 Seconds (4 seconds if hit by smaller rings).

Why should this be added?: Throwing is in a serious disadvantage come Hardmode, especially around this stage. This weapon would give the poor class a better time against all the Duke Fishrons and the Lunar Pillars in the world.

[agile cloud]

you just posted that

[astral gust]

finished it

[agile cloud]

And dont you dare disrespect my thrower

[astral gust]

no u

srsly i want feedback

[agile cloud]

Any ideas for damage?

[astral gust]

i have no idea so far

i'm not good with stats

like at all

[agile cloud]

This is post-golem throwing

so i'd say 60-70 for large thing

and half that for small ones

also reduce ichor time to 8.33

[astral gust]

60 sounds good

why that specific?

[agile cloud]

idk

its how long the exo weapons debuff for

[astral gust]

throwing speed should be pretty fast then right?

[agile cloud]

meh

It should be at least fast

but more speed = less damage for balancing

[astral gust]

added the things you recommended

i'm gonna post it now

[agile cloud]

kk

[sinful violet]

Damage is decided by the devs who make the weapon since they can see how it works ingame

[astral gust]

ohh yeah forgot that was a thing

[agile cloud]

A rough estimate isnt a bad thing though

[astral gust]

i'll keep it for now

[tulip parcel]

Didn't like the astral knurl mrrp?

:<

but yeah, damage is largely determined by fab and co

[astral gust]

ha get rekt suggestion man

[tulip parcel]

other things are too

though suggestions of stats like "low" and "high" are fine

[astral gust]

you're confusing me

i already removed my stats

[agile cloud]

All stats are detirmened by fab & co, but estimates are good

[tulip parcel]

^

that's what I mean

I'm not saying you need to remove it, because you have, but I'm sayin this as a tip for the future

[astral gust]

hm ok

[tulip parcel]

and I am not suggestion man!

[sinful violet]

I was just too lazy to scroll up

[tulip parcel]

o

[sleek wigeon]

FabCo tbh

[sinful violet]

Also the iron rings and native gods caught my eye

For reasons I won't disclose

[sleek wigeon]

mrrp, mind if i call you wiggle till the end of time?

[astral gust]

is that a photoshopped yuuka pfp

[sleek wigeon]

You dont have a choice in it btw, wiggle

[sinful violet]

noop, it's raiko

and sure ijones

[astral gust]

oof

[sinful violet]

have fun with that

[tulip parcel]

mrrp

have you seen my donator item?

[astral gust]

forgot that yuuka had green hair

[sinful violet]

yuuka has green hair, yeah

and yes, i have

[tulip parcel]

it's basically master spark

even if it's referencing something totally different

[agile cloud]

donator items are a thing?

oo

[tulip parcel]

they are!

[astral gust]

i wanted to make a master spark weapon

[agile cloud]

I can make the perfect throwing weapon

[sinful violet]

smh it isn't a master spark weapon unless half the screen is blotted out by a laser

[tulip parcel]

I forwarded a modification to popo, not sure how that went over

[sinful violet]

we saw it

[tulip parcel]

ah okay great

[sinful violet]

also, touhou reference aside, the iron rings seem legitimately fun to use

[tulip parcel]

was the diagram okay? I uh

I didn't explain it well

[sinful violet]

yeah, we got it

kinda like how last prism looks when some of the beams aren't loaded

[astral gust]

suwako is arguably my favorite character in the series as of recent

[tulip parcel]

yee

[astral gust]

probably because i main her in soku but ehh

[sinful violet]

also smh, you missed the chance to call it "Dark Spark"

[tulip parcel]

...

fuck please change it to that, that's brilliant

[sinful violet]

o

[astral gust]

bullet cancel mechanic when

[sinful violet]

ok i'll have to let em know

oh yeah, have rage be like a bomb to make it more useful tbh

[astral gust]

i was thinking of something like aya's camera as a tool with a huge ass cooldown

[tulip parcel]

if I made any 2hu reference item

[astral gust]

but enough touhou references for now

[tulip parcel]

it'd be laevitein

[sinful violet]

hecc yeah

[astral gust]

the remilia spear?
or am i thinking of something else

[sinful violet]

terry's making that boundary yoyo

[tulip parcel]

oh sicc

[sinful violet]

it's flans spear

[tulip parcel]

yeah laevitein is a spell card flan uses

[sinful violet]

well, he said he'd get around to it when he has time

[astral gust]

i completely forgot because i barely got past flan

[tulip parcel]

it'd either be laevitein or the elixir of life

[sinful violet]

hourai?

[astral gust]

oh fuck the elixir sounds fun to write about

[tulip parcel]

yeah

mokou is my favorite 2hu

[sinful violet]

fair

[astral gust]

or a kaguya weapon

[sinful violet]

honestly

[astral gust]

hourai jewel

[sinful violet]

cosmic immaterializer sprite looks like the jeweled branch

[tulip parcel]

it really does

[astral gust]

basically yeah

you also got the rainbow crystal staff but shh

[tulip parcel]

if dying breath doesn't reach 50 I'll probably rework it to be a worse silva you can get early

[sinful violet]

Alrighty, they should know about the name change now

[tulip parcel]

and call it elixir

many thanks mrrp

❤

[sinful violet]

ye np

hmm

was also thinking of some teleport to last location of death item

soul chain or something

[astral gust]

boundary traveler: an item that lets you tp to anywhere on the map

basically arcanum but not random

[sinful violet]

that's a bit much

anywhere sounds a bit too op

[tulip parcel]

nah instead of that

just make it like a portal gun

[sinful violet]

and arcanum of the void already has set tele locations

[tulip parcel]

except the portals are a set distance from casting

[sinful violet]

you mean waypoints?

[tulip parcel]

and you can-waypoints?

[sinful violet]

yeah like, check points but for more open world stuff

I'm gonna suggest the soul chain now actually

[astral gust]

is actually called backdoor traveler like a boss

[tulip parcel]

I might devote most of my suggestions from here on to the astral biome

because it's a fuckin great biome aesthetically

but it needs more meat

[worthy fiber]

^

[astral gust]

i love it so much

[worthy fiber]

Right now it's just the ore and stardust

[astral gust]

i also wanna contribute some things to it

[worthy fiber]

Needs some dedicated loot

[tulip parcel]

right now it's delicious looking cardboard

I want to turn it into a nice, juicy steak

a fine entree to go with hardmode

[astral gust]

it's like nintendo labo without a manual

you know something's in there but you don't know what

[hollow shell]

@sinful violet Consumable item?

How would you obtain it?

[elder kestrel]

^
Would it be a potion, item that spawns on death, etc?

[agile cloud]

prob crafted

[elder kestrel]

Good suggestion, just not enough info

[sinful violet]

Oh, silly me

I was gonna expand on that if people actually liked it enough

[agile cloud]

you did a dumb 😆

[sinful violet]

Alrighty

excuse my internet too

[agile cloud]

yeah your internet is dying

[tulip parcel]

aawh astral knurl is gonna get buried

damn and I really liked it too

oh well, onto the next

what if there was a combination weapon you could forge from the enemies in the biome, like a melee weapon

I think it'd be a drop from the Mantises and Fusion Feeders respectively

[sinful violet]

Maybe

Maybe some component, other than stardust, which would be mainly for weapons

Star Carapace

[tulip parcel]

yeah. I just, there -HAS- to be more content for the astral biome, it's just too great to ignore

star carapace works

maybe star chitin?

a lot of the astral enemies have an insectoid appearance

[sinful violet]

Yeah

There’s stuff coming, but there’s no harm in it

A summon weapon is needed

[tulip parcel]

for that I think the nova enemy would be best, it's another flyer AI that sticks out among the other couple

[sinful violet]

Or the obvious hive

[tulip parcel]

there's a hive? I haven't seen that

[sinful violet]

yeah, hivelings and such

[tulip parcel]

ooh, no, the astral summon weapon should summon random minions from a set of minion-ized astral enemies

like a sort of zerg reference, y'know?

[sinful violet]

Maybe

[tulip parcel]

or maybe it should be more like, an astral amalgam

or... yooo

no you know what you do? you use the corroslime/crimslime staves

and you create an astral slime summoning item

but it summons two slimes, an orange one and a blue one

[agile cloud]

yes

[tulip parcel]

I'm thinking it wouldn't be a staff, it'd be like... a gel clump, or maybe a crystal sticking out of gel

and both slimes would have little astral bits floating around inside them

[hollow shell]

@quasi fable What would it do?

[quasi fable]

Idk i just got the idea when drinking some

[hollow shell]

Come up with something

[quasi fable]

Ah fuck

It ought to be cold related but that might be horribly bad

[agile cloud]

warmth potion effects, and 10% increased crit chance, lower defense by 20

[tulip parcel]

I decided to add a “soul” drop to it

It’s an early hardmode biome, only makes sense

[wispy hedge]

ooo i have a great idea

like a sword thats crafted with the terrablade and the martian sword thing and it likes does the effect of the martian sword but it pierces

because they are both really good

how does it sound?

or is it already in the game idk

[opal barn]

That sounds pretty cool actually

[wispy hedge]

thanks :)

[covert wing]

i imagine a bit more spice into it

like some third component to mend the two good swords together

[wind flicker]

Infernal Cataharis rebirth plays during Phase 1 when you've defeated Mothron I think

So when you will go into Phase 2

[radiant pawn]

When you summon Yharon

Infernal Catharsis Rebirth plays

But not at the beggining

It starts at the new part from the old IC

[radiant meadow]

Old Infernal Catharsis plays in predarksun Yharon

Infernal Catharsis rebirth does play in phase 1 but only after beating buffed mothron

What is the suggestion trying to say?

[delicate raft]

He's talking about when the theme starts

Just hear this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avp6YE7qINg&t=322s

Then fight post-Darksun Yharon

You'll notice that it's cut

[radiant pawn]

^

[lunar berry]

ooAOH

Nerfing the resurrection potion from alchemist i see

Soul of plight sounds cool tho

[wise pollen]

wait

nvm

[lunar berry]

Yess

Hot suggestion

[opal barn]

@umbral tendon Yharon will get a resprite when it's done

[devout seal]

@shadow prism 650 Mana is the Hard Limit, it cannot be increased, as the engine itself cannot handle it.

[radiant meadow]

well, that means there is room for 5 permanent mana upgrades then?

since right now, its capped at 550

[devout seal]

No, it's 650 with demonshade armor, all upgrades to mana.

[little raptor]

nah, Yharon looks like a Terraria boss

[devout seal]

He's going to get a resprite.

He doesn't fit with the rest of the bosses as he is now.

[little raptor]

d a m n

[covert wing]

I have seen some part of the yharon resprite and it looks good.

[little raptor]

well, if you say it

[worn bay]

I've also seen it, it's real good

[little raptor]

i wanna see it

[cyan lagoon]

@heavy nexus Fabsol i think has stated in the past that DPS caps are a terrible way of anticheese and will never be added back

and besides

the only way you're going to most likely trigger it if it does get in is by abusing other mod equipment

(even then she technically has a dps cap where she doesnt drop anything besides potions if you don't let her get into her 1% phase)

[radiant meadow]

wait, so coldheart icicle memes at less than 2% means you can't get loot?

[cyan lagoon]

Probably

Though it'll be near impossible to even hit her with the icicle once

[agile cloud]

^

[cyan lagoon]

let alone get her killed by it while keeping her at 2% hp

[agile cloud]

She would have to dash at you

[radiant meadow]

I mean, you could wait until she charges

[agile cloud]

then get lucky with timing

[radiant meadow]

and you would need god skill dodging

just spam it?

[teal wolf]

I would like a risk of rain reference item or two

perhaps I could donate several more times

providence's sword would be a fun one

[sleek wigeon]

Prov's sword dropped by other prov

[ruby cobalt]

Does this one satisfy you?

[tulip parcel]

I made another risk of rain reference item but no one noticed

yeah merc's blade is a good boi

[teal wolf]

I want the big teal blade

could be m1 does his shockwave thing along the ground, and m2 is his little explosion thing or something

[sturdy latch]

shadowbolt gets moved back
suggestion doesn't get flagged

[teal wolf]

dayum dog is gonna be so easy now for mag builds

doesnt venusian shred him still?

[placid perch]

Thats already posted

[lost agate]

Ah yes, lets make a rare af enemy drop a needed weapon

[sleek wigeon]

at a % chance no less

[tulip parcel]

you're right

1% chance

10% is too high

[arctic wren]

thoughts on making the providence spawner non-consumable from the start? or at least sold by the wizard once you kill the profaned guardians...
all of the other major post-moonlord boss spawners are non-consumable and out of all of them providence has by far the most annoying spawner to get at-gear level (except dog for having to kill 3 mini-bosses instead of 1) so is her spawner of all of them consumable?
the problem is even recognized in the form of a non-consumable spawner that you can get once you kill her the first time

[radiant meadow]

It used to be crafted with just 5 consumable cores. 😩
I guess they thought moving it to post prov was better for balance? idk

[round falcon]

it is imo

[arctic wren]

But all it does is make killing Provi the first time a chore because you need to kill the chicken nuggets for each attempt

sure they're easy but it doesn't actually make killing her any harder or anything, it just makes it take longer for no real reason

[radiant meadow]

at least dragon egg, eye of extinction, and cosmic worm are no longer consumable

[sleek wigeon]

Dunken Donuts

[astral gust]

speaking of dumb consumables, nerf the phantoplasm cost of the beacon

you'll already be spawning a polterghast when you try to farm for the thing

[round falcon]

how about instead a craftable consumable core

that way the doughnuts become optional

but easier

[arctic wren]

that would depend on the cost

[tulip parcel]

Merc’s blade is up to 50

[round falcon]

to get a core from

[tulip parcel]

Yeee

[arctic wren]

the doughnuts aren't hard, but it takes a while

[round falcon]

i'd say Meld Bars, Unholy Essence, and maybe something else like Luminite?

[arctic wren]

that would probably be just as bad

[radiant meadow]

I don't think a craftable core would work

[sleek wigeon]

Craftable core doesnt really make much sense

From a flavor perspective

[arctic wren]

because it'd require killing the cultist and moonlord and farming unholy essences for it

[radiant meadow]

and adding luminite would just mean farming ml which is even longer

[round falcon]

true

[radiant meadow]

you can buy sigils tbf

[sleek wigeon]

Still need cultist

for meld

[radiant meadow]

as annoying as donuts are, ml is work

[tulip parcel]

Just make them drop a paltry amount of divine geode

[round falcon]

or that

[sleek wigeon]

Pre prov tarragon

[round falcon]

no

[arctic wren]

that would make tarragon technically pre-prov though

[radiant meadow]

uelibloom is post prov?

[arctic wren]

... wait

[astral gust]

except uelibloom hasn't spawned yet

[arctic wren]

uelibloom

[tulip parcel]

Ecacyy

[sleek wigeon]

I thougt bloom was post ml

[tulip parcel]

Exactly

[radiant meadow]

just increase the amount of geodes in the core recipe

[round falcon]

uelibloom spawns pre-provi

post*

[radiant meadow]

and have the main guardian drop like 1 geode

[arctic wren]

divine geode is only used in tarragon, 1 rampart, and profaned core

[radiant meadow]

so its still more worth it to battle prov for geodes

[arctic wren]

so having them drop 1 divine geode sounds ok to me

5 kills to make the non-consumable core

[radiant meadow]

I mean, then that's the same as before though

[round falcon]

1-2 (2-3) in normal (expert)?

[radiant meadow]

basically

[round falcon]

add Uelibloom bars to Rampart

[arctic wren]

which is equal to the "5 consumable cores for a non-consumable core"

[radiant meadow]

and they got rid of it for a reason?

[arctic wren]

rampart is already post-dog

[round falcon]

oh true

[arctic wren]

I don't see a reason to add uelibloom ore to the recipe since it's not like you'll magically be able to get it earlier

[round falcon]

maybe amp up the amount of geodes required for the nonconsumable then

whats the current recipe

[arctic wren]

I think having to kill like 10 or 20 sets of the dougnuts for the non-consumable core is a tad ridiculous personally

5 geodes + consumable core

[round falcon]

you already have to kill them multiple times anyways

with this

[arctic wren]

it'd still be preferable to now, though

[round falcon]

so maybe 6 and 4 (to match the 1-2 drop chance)

[radiant meadow]

I mean, before I take on Prov, I usually quickly knockout 10 consecutive guardians in preparation for prov fails

[arctic wren]

if the price were increased but the geodes from the guardians was implemented I wouldn't complain

I mean you normally have to kill them that many times right now anyway

[round falcon]

plus since nobody really plays normal you'd basically only have to fight them four times no matter what

[arctic wren]

by price increase I figured birthday meant 10-20 zone

[radiant meadow]

lol, calling me birthday
I was thinking around 10 or so

20 would be a bit much

[arctic wren]

I'll call you birthday if I want

yeah, 10 seems pretty good

[radiant meadow]

🎂

[round falcon]

happy early birthday

[cyan lagoon]

@brave girder elaborate

how is it "the only abyss weapon of its tier that is useless"?

[brave girder]

it doesn't see use at all

it does pityful damage

it's slow

the homing isn't even that great

compared to undyne, ballistic poison bomb, flak kraken

[heady comet]

I vote for riz

[brave girder]

all of which are fairly unique and good too

[radiant meadow]

It doesn't even home in on enemies

[cyan lagoon]

put it in the suggestion, please

[brave girder]

there's not even a viable weapon that has that swinging style

i mean, i thought it was obvious

but sure

aaand there

[heady comet]

star

[sinful violet]

Wait flak kraken is good?

[brave girder]

i mean

it's not the worst thing ever

[sinful violet]

I can probably never use it because my screen resolution is shitty

[brave girder]

i've atleast seen people use it, even if normal mode

[sinful violet]

So having a bigger monitor would help

Gosh, pay to win much

[brave girder]

typhon's greed is probably worse than ball o fugu

thank u btw

[hollow shell]

@wispy hound Astral Probe?
Why not a lil Atlas or a lil Culex, or anything else?

[wispy hound]

Sure,

We just need more astral things tbh

Maybe a nova or sightseer as well,

Who knows ;^)

As a matter of fact, the sightseer or culex would be the best choice

imo

[hollow shell]

Aight
You can edit the suggestion to be more general, or change it to a different specific one if you want

[plush remnant]

I kinda want to work on a Warframe reference item.

[earnest raptor]

Increase amount of bullets, shooted by hardmode shotguns
: Shotgun-like hm weapons relatively doesn't seem powerful as Boomstick in pre-hm. Increasing amount of bullets are one of solution of this problem.

Increase amount of bullets, shooted by hardmode shotguns
: Shotgun-like hm weapons relatively doesn't seem powerful as Boomstick in pre-hm. Increasing amount of bullets are one of solution of this problem.

What's i'm should't change?

[digital sparrow]

Seems like a pretty decent suggestion to me

[hollow shell]

@heavy nexus When did you post the original?

[heavy nexus]

a few days ago.

[hollow shell]

Was it over a week?

[quiet abyss]

If it ain't over a week it can't be reposted

[frosty kindle]

likely deleted -> reposted since i cannot find the original through a search

[hollow shell]

Same

[quiet abyss]

Same

[hollow shell]

Kinda annoying

[quasi fable]

This is so sad

My suggestion only got 20 stars ☹

[crisp osprey]

im guessing someone has suggested something that adds the hitcap back to the SCal fight

[worthy fiber]

Nothing I've seen 🤔

Yet, anyway

[crisp osprey]

well i may suggest somerthing

[astral gust]

alternative rage/adrenaline bar that focuses solely on the defensive side

[marsh gust]

just activate armageddon 1 hitcap

[crisp osprey]

you arent wrong
thats a thing

but id rather have the ability to not get 1-shot by a random spike thing

[astral gust]

that's actually pretty good

[marsh gust]

i dont wanna get 5 shotted by a random spike thing as well

[astral gust]

Alternative Rage/Adrenaline
This alternative version of Rage and Adrenaline would focus on the more defensive side of combat, instead of the ability to multiply your damage to points where it is capable of skipping phases.

Adrenaline (Alter)
When toggled, it will activate a shield that will absorb a specific amount of damage depending on how far you've progressed into the game.

Rage (Alter)
When toggled, it will render you invulnerable to all damage and will infilct a small-AoE bullet cancel to the player once it wears off.

Why should this be implemented?: As of currently, Rage and Adrenaline are two very powerful mechanics capable of skipping entire boss phases. While this may be useful to a good amount of people in the community, some people like playing safe and they want to take as little risks as possible when fighting bosses. This new Rage/Adrenaline can give exactly that to those players.

feedback pls thankyu

[pliant bone]

I dont see why bother using the defensive adrenaline when you are suppose to nohit for a certain amount of time to activate it anyway unless the shield lasts throughout the boss fight

[astral gust]

i'm thinking of making it into that

a one time use that will absorb dmg throughout the fight

[pliant bone]

Rage reminds me of ubercharge for some reason xd

[indigo girder]

I think they should be flipped to be honest. Adrenaline is a reward for not taking damage, so getting something that lets you face tank damage for it doesnt make as much since as a bullet clear to allow you to keep avoiding damage.

Plus rage coming from taking damage giving you a shield makes more since than a bullet clear

[astral gust]

i was thinking of making rage a straight up heal but it's just a one time use

[indigo girder]

In my opinion

[astral gust]

good point

[pliant bone]

Inb4, player spams shield via rage outside bosses

[astral gust]

that's a problem too

i'll change adrenaline to the invu + bullet cancel

and then i'll work on whatever should i make the rage

[pliant bone]

I think rage should be heal instead...

[astral gust]

then again, it's a one-time use per fight

and heal pots are a thing already

[pliant bone]

Hmm

Prob heal and invulnerable to debuffs for a short time?

Heal back to full hp

[astral gust]

still won't cut it imo, :P

i'm throwing the heal idea out the window all together

[pliant bone]

Yeah. . .

[tired haven]

Full hp heal is probably too strong

[astral gust]

it's still a one time use regardless

[tired haven]

Oh, btw, what exactly would be used to swap modes?

Utility item like cosmolight?

[astral gust]

i'm thinking of both modes to be its own toggle

yeah basically

i want each mode to be its own toggle so people could pick 1 offense 1 defense

[pliant bone]

I would rather stick to 1000% more dmg adrenaline but rage could be interesting

[astral gust]

thing is, i haven't thought of rage yet

[tired haven]

I feel like giving rage passive regen depending on how full it is would be neat

Or rather growing absorber effect 🤔

Though then there is a need for rage decrease over time

[pliant bone]

Then you got Dark heart smth being viable during boss fights

[astral gust]

passive regen for rage sounds nice

[pliant bone]

Make the rage decay slightly faster than the dark heart I forgot the name of that accessory increases

[astral gust]

heart of darkness?

[pliant bone]

Yeah that

[spark flax]

obviously the solution is just to give a rage buff to Draedon's Heart waitialreadydidthat

[astral gust]

isn't draedon still shit tho

[spark flax]

yeah but i got an upgrade to it over to dev server so FINGERS CROSSED

draedonheartitselfstillsuckstho

[arctic wren]

Do you think Elemental Axes could use a buff?
from what I've seen 3k dps on provi isn't great, even if it's guaranteed that you hit 🤔

especially given not being able to focus down the healer guardian means summoner is... rather bad in that department and can lead to provi healing huge chunks of her hp

[marsh gust]

sounds OP ngl

especially adren

[astral gust]

compared to literal phase skipping? well yeah maybe

[marsh gust]

well with that you could spawn KS, charge adren, summon adult wyrm n activate adren?

[astral gust]

then again, the adrenaline doesn't last forever

[marsh gust]

it lasts long enuf to make a difference

[astral gust]

how about this:
full invulnerability when adrenaline is toggled, however you can't attack while the effect is on

making it purely defensive

[marsh gust]

but my damage boost :v

how would you toggle between those 2?

[astral gust]

it'll work kinda like cosmolight

[spark flax]

that seems

pointless, if you can't attack with it

[astral gust]

like i said, purely defensive if you're under pressure or smth

[marsh gust]

could you toggle it mid fight?

[spark flax]

like, i guess you could use it to regen health or something, but like

if you're good enough to fill up adren on deathmode you dont need the defense most likely

[astral gust]

or a panic activation when you're in a tight spot

no, it's not toggleable mid fight, but you can swapout one effect for the other one

as in, defensive rage + offensive adrenaline

[ashen warren]

I personally like to play defensively whenever I can, but even I can't see the value of that compared to making the fight go by much quicker

Sorry

[lost agate]

@little raptor you can already

[little raptor]

how ?

[lost agate]

You find a cyst up there and bam

[little raptor]

dude, but the worms goes under the island

they can't fly to the island

[lost agate]

Then give them a hand

Put some sands

Flying worms would be a nightmare

They already go fast af on low health

[little raptor]

seems you didn't try it

[lost agate]

Wdym?

[marsh gust]

why dont you make the worms spawn from the hive?

[lost agate]

Hey, that could actually work

[marsh gust]

so no more flying worms

[lost agate]

But still, they go fast af

[marsh gust]

they also melt kindof fast tho with piercing

[lost agate]

They go from "i. Cant. Reach. You" to NYOOOM if you leave them at low hp

[opal barn]

IIRC to worms used to spawn from the hive, but I might be wrong

[cyan lagoon]

they did

but they were way too cheesed

@heavy nexus but why though

and what mode

[tulip parcel]

“yes”

[ashen warren]

Yehes

[bitter topaz]

nerf king slime on normal

[teal shoal]

[tulip parcel]

He’s too hard

Make an easy mode where he only has 1200 hp

And never teleports ever

:^)

[wise pollen]

O-Oh.

when you suggest a nerf to normal mode you're probably not very good at the game

[hasty wigeon]

^

.>

[tulip parcel]

Yeahhhhhh

To quote a gaming maxim

“git gud”

[hasty wigeon]

Play on Revengance

Anything below Expert mode is boring anyway

[tulip parcel]

You’re boring!

[faint rivet]

Normal mode stats

[ashen warren]

@heavy nexus I know exactly how you feel
Believe me

I'm probably the only person on this server who does

[terse rain]

wait is that a suggestion saying we should make a normal mode king slime less difficult or am I confused

[ashen warren]

Yes

Because we're both really fuck awful at bosses

[terse rain]

king slime in death mode isn't even hard