why would you MRRP
#suggestions-discussion
marsh gust
lucid oracle
@hollow shell Also just to clarify on what I meant before, I didn't mean there's no dodging. Just that the dodging can feel like more a fluke than anything. It's entirely possible for things to happen in a way where you can't react to them, and the general clumsy movement will get you killed, even if you had the reaction to do something about it.
marsh gust
thats just useless imo 
the slippery boots
lucid oracle
and that boss fights can, in some cases, become significantly easier by running sideways. Back last time I played Calamitas did prevent this, since she stayed anchored to the player constantly. But I haven't had this happen again in my current playthrough
I'm not sure if that was intended behaviour or multiplayer fuckery, though
radiant meadow
Opposite to ice skates that isn't lava waders?
hollow shell
Regular Calamitas?
hollow shell
Hm
Admittedly I never tried running away from her for very long so I wouldn't know, lol
quiet abyss
Regular calamitas mostly negates running in straight line with her lasers and brothers
lucid oracle
The lasers don't really prevent that, though. You get a lot more time to react and jump if you're quickly moving in one direction.
lucid oracle
The homing is probably the least threatening part about them
They lose a decent amount of speed once they curve around
quiet abyss
Not “kinda”
lucid oracle
At least in my own personal experience, the initial high speed is what I get hit by.
marsh gust
actually i need to see how current clone AI reacts to old AI's strats.. more things on my todo list yaya
quiet abyss
Their homing capacity is very brutal, its just that they only homes after travelling a certain distance
And afaik the lasers don’t lose their speed while curving
lucid oracle
I'm certain they do
radiant meadow
Those homing lasers 
lucid oracle
They'd be horrifying if they moved at that speed while homing
marsh gust
they don't lose speed
radiant meadow
It would be more terrifying if scal had them 
lucid oracle
👀
marsh gust
remember u fought her on an older version
quiet abyss
lucid oracle
I also fought her yesterday
marsh gust
jeez terms
radiant meadow
And didn't blow up on blocks of course
lucid oracle
Like 6 times in a row, i'm going to go do it again and pay close attention to the lasers
@quiet abyss What about during the curve?
quiet abyss
(Ignore the video title and look at the lasers)
lucid oracle
I mean I can just open up the game
marsh gust
you should suggest that after getting ur role 
make us new nohitters work more
radiant meadow
lucid oracle
I think the lasers are just slower than I was recalling in general, though.
I thought they came out of her a lot faster, more like laser rifle speeds.
quiet abyss
They were changed a long time ago to come out slower, but to compensate don’t lose speed while curving
Atleast, that’s what I think happened
Memory is hazy
lucid oracle
Wish I could talk with Fabsol about more precise movement though 😔, I'd like to hear his thoughts on the matter in more detail.
shadow prism
hes against it, period
lucid oracle
Not what I was asking for but okay
quiet abyss
He come to chat in public chats like #general-talk and #calamity-mod-talk every now and then
Just wait for the opportunity
Though Terraria movement is...not something Fab wants to mess/bother with iirc
ashen warren
that's over 1k ore, right?
cyan lagoon
i dont think making it ridiculously expensive will make it a sidegrade with wulfrum...
potent veldt
I was moreso thinking it to be like
Gold-tier damage
Or slightly higher
Because if it still did copper-tier damage then it instantly nullifies the entire point
I only brought up wulfrum to show how obsolete those metals are
lunar berry
Why would you spend an hour trying to get ore when you could just get a wulfum sword
And wolfram sword is pretty much corruption tier
marsh gust
its gwtting nerfed next patch no
lucid oracle
Do people not immediately skip copper/tip/wolfram? I've always thought the stats are so bad it's not even worth making
marsh gust
wulfrum is very good early game
lucid oracle
But why stay in the early game? It's fairly easy to just get passed it, I don't think the small boost you get from the armor is going to be helping you a whole lot.
radiant meadow
well wulfrum summoner outclasses victide summoner
lucid oracle
I avoided victide armor too 👀
cyan lagoon
victide and wulfrum basically are huge fuck you to armor alts
granted the alts are terrible anyway
one victide set can last you all the way from pre-boss to post-skeletron
marsh gust
Mage doesn't need victide or wulfrum
lucid oracle
I used wood armor until I killed skeletron 
marsh gust
why don't wood armor SG 
radiant meadow
vs DoG
marsh gust
hooks?
marsh gust
give me jesters/unholy and i'll do it
neon panther
pearl crater
lucid marsh
Ok good, it was a mistake.
marsh gust
@torpid perch no boss suggestions, and it is planned alrdy so dont worry.
torpid perch
Oh ok thank you
marsh gust
could you please delete that suggestion now? thnks
cyan lagoon
once again, boss suggestions aren't illegal, they can't be accepted though
And yes, Yharim will be a future boss
don't expect him anytime soon, we have alot more plans before we add him
marsh gust
boss suggestion that involves adding a boss is against the rules iirc .-. i shouldnt minimod ik
sinful violet
They just shouldn’t be posted since it covers up other suggestions.
It’s a waste of space.
cyan lagoon
They can, atleast be posted here for discussion
though obviously everyone has to know the suggested boss is not getting in
umbral dune
I'm working on something big...
hollow shell
@lucid marsh Might wanna just mention renewability as some kind of factor
Tenebris is technically renewable, because you can fish up Planty Mush and then have the Tenebris spread onto it
but that sounds like hell, so...
summer charm
Posting this here because obviously. Not something I ever expect to happen, and it's probably pretty stupid anyway.
What if Yharim was mid Hardmode? Like, the idea is he gets cocky and thinks he can easily take care of you face to face, no armor and no preparation. You find him "bound" on the surface after Calamitas' defeat mid-HM. If you kill him, the lore states that his last act was a psychic message to Calamitas that says: "Going undercover. Don't let anyone know I'm missing. Mess with their minds." So everyone, including Yharon, thinks Yharim is still around. In the SCal fight, her last words were her realizing that Yharim is dead too, and basically conceding the fight there. You can re-summon him to farm with a Calamity Idol, which is made from Ashes of Calamity and stuff and can only be used after his first defeat. Tooltip states, "Summons a memory of Yharim."
Not a good idea, but I think it's better than other Yharim ideas.
summer charm
Fair enough. Just really as a counterpoint to the other ideas anyway.
lost agate
So basically yharim gets drunk and messes up
summer charm
Yup, haha.
round falcon
Good ol' drunken princess antics perhaps
To develop this suggestion that won't really happen
summer charm
Pretty much.
marsh gust
i mean that might work somewhat like clones and supreme calamitas
lost agate
Yharim doppelganger, aka some guy with an auric armor
marsh gust
yharim in xeroc armor
summer charm
Or maybe he gets revived into a spirit or something, like "Revenant Yharim" for the final fight. His spirit finds his way into the Dungeon and becomes a Yharon-Polterghast hybrid. Pulls Ghast into the story too.
round falcon
anyways i had a SCal suggestion thats probably a bad idea tbh, but in rev/dm SCal would summon doppelganger calamitas instead of the Supreme bros./a sepulcher once (PostProvi buffed stats)
plush remnant
FTL Hook
You can feel the handle vibrate in your hands.
How to craft: Lunar Hook, Cosmilite, Dark Plasma
Fires a single hook with an incredibly far range that shoots out at the same velocity as the Lunar Hook, but instantly pulls you to the hooked tile.
Hooking to a tile applies the Destabilized debuff for a short time, with the tooltip Your body feels slightly phased out of reality, which causes you to be unable to use the FTL Hook.
: Calamity adds no hooks afaik, and I thought it was a cool concept for a post DoG hook. Plus, it makes for another method of dodging, if you plan around using it.
Thoughts?
plush remnant
Balanced, or should I adjust the crafting materials to put it later or earlier in the progression?
marsh gust
i'll still stick with the bat hook ye
lost agate
Being unable to use hook for a while, nah fam
marsh gust
plus the momentum u get from a hook is 
plush remnant
It's a hook based around my playstyle, tbh.
I never use hooks late game. I use platform arenas. Mainly because I find Elysian Tracers good enough for me to work with. So I figured that a hook that you could use as a dodging tool instead of as a mobility tool would be fun.
marsh gust
will that hook refresh flight time?
plush remnant
Yes.
marsh gust
thing is it sounds too much like RoD bound to a hotkey, but takes longer to activate
plush remnant
I mean, you also have to attach it to a tile, meaning you have to specifically plan around using it to dodge like RoD, and you're unable to teleport wherever your cursor is, only to the first tile the hook hits.
Thanks for giving me the idea to put the RoD in the crafting recipe, though.
I'm gonna slap it into the suggestions channel
lost agate
Can i has a star please?
marsh gust
lost agate
F
marsh gust
i thought ben told you
ashen warren
I didn't know they were sent
If it was long enough ago
I think you can
Check with a mod
devout seal
Delete it.
sleek wigeon
Nah,no need to delete it if you dont want to
shadow prism
replace typhons greed with a yoyo or flail because according to fab the mod needs more of them and typhons greed is really bad rn
frail mantle
Combination of inferno and flailron
frail mantle
Better
lunar berry
Idk
ashen warren
"Added tooltips for vanilla wings that display flight time and acceleration." thank. you. ozzatron.
neon igloo
Thank you ozzatron, very cool
ashen warren
Until SoC vanilla is apparently better
lunar berry
Flailferno still doesnt sound cool enough
lunar berry
Idk
ashen warren
Inflailno?
pliant bone
Frozen wings
ashen warren
i was first
ruby cobalt
that's a spirit boss
frail mantle
lunar berry
Wait wat
ashen warren
Oh, gratz on full mod @ruby cobalt
I mean
frail mantle
there is a boss in Spirit mod named Infernon
ruby cobalt
I mean, yeah.
wicked swift
beat me to it again
frail mantle
yup
wicked swift
I'm still with inflailno
lunar berry
Yharflail
frail mantle
Inflailron
lunar berry
ashen warren
Adding the ron makes it cumbersome
wicked swift
Yharflail sounds like a pirate saying it
lunar berry
Nothing can beat flailferno
frail mantle
i be here to smash yer head in and argue about names
lunar berry
Help
wicked swift
This be a pirate's flail, yarr
frail mantle
lunar berry
What defines a pirate
wicked swift
Is yharim a pirate?
wicked swift
And Yharon is his parrot
frail mantle
of Course he did, he’s a tyrant
ashen warren
Yharon is confirmed to actually be a parrot
wicked swift
How does this chat always manage to get so off-topic
frail mantle
Lol
ashen warren
Screech of the jungle parrot
frail mantle
caw of the jungle parrot
ashen warren
Looking up different names for fire so yer
lunar berry
Also
wicked swift
I mean, that would explain how there's lyrics in his theme
ashen warren
"incandeflail"
ashen warren
Incandeflail seems neat
frail mantle
Incandescent flail
lunar berry
Burning discharge
ashen warren
Flare flail
lunar berry
Cosmic discharge + fire
lunar berry
sounds like a name in undertale
wicked swift
Incineflail
lunar berry
Frick
frail mantle
blazing flail
no weed jokes plz
lunar berry
Flail of incineration
ashen warren
I like "scintillation" but it doesn't feel.. flamey enough
frail mantle
the roaster
lunar berry
Apparently ‘holocaust’ is a synonym for fire
frail mantle
boi
lunar berry
So
ashen warren
Scintillating crusher
lunar berry
THE HOLOCAUST
frail mantle
the holocaust
ashen warren
please no
lunar berry
MACE OF RAPID OXIDATION
frail mantle
showers also included
ruby cobalt
i will end your existence
ashen warren
Up in smoke mace flail of rapid oxidation of plasma
lunar berry
frail mantle
plasmace
lunar berry
Plasmace for the win
wicked swift
Flareron
ashen warren
isn't that in the game?
frail mantle
the roaster
destroys your opponent’s carrier
ashen warren
Plasma is in the sun though
lunar berry
Yharon is related to the sun
marsh gust
sounds like flareon
lunar berry
And PlasMace sounds really cool
lucid oracle
@plush remnant A hook that prevents you from using the hook again doesn't sound like a very useful hook, i'll be honest.
wicked swift
INSTANTLY pulls you to the tile, so it's like another RoD light pretty much
ashen warren
@earnest raptor Add a "Why?"
wicked swift
Exodium Cluster isn't infinite
ashen warren
Exodium is easy as pie to get so I don't really care about that
lunar berry
Yes
ashen warren
Right click attack
spark flax
Good.
wicked swift
So this chat went from flails to pirates, back to flails and then to Pokémon
lunar berry
Yep
wicked swift
I love this chat
frail mantle
wicked swift
I like how I kinda was the one to start both the pirate and pokémon discussion, I said Yharflail sounded like a pirate saying it, and I came up with Flareron
wicked swift
But I was the one saying it sounded like a pirate saying it
lunar berry
Why are we arguing over this
wicked swift
and I said kinda, please have mercy
marsh gust
dont have to mention my name do you
lunar berry
What
ashen warren
Tbh my vote is still for "Up in smoke mace flail of rapid oxidation of plasma"
Several people were typing ono
lunar berry
There should be a weapon called Rapid Oxidation
frail mantle
Then it would just be a contender for longest name, next to the hammer i dont even want to bother typing the name of
lunar berry
it was a joke
frail mantle
a debuff named rapid oxidation
wicked swift
Triactis' true paladinian magehammer of might
ashen warren
fu
wicked swift
Or the angler's supreme bait tackle box fishing station
ruby cobalt
At least it isn't a BROJOB.
spark flax
suggestion discussion chat best chat
ashen warren
Rapid oxidation sounds like an abyss upgrade of the crimson chest thing
lucid oracle
@wicked swift In regards to the hook, giving it normal hook functionality while it's special effect is on cooldown would be fine I'd say. It gets to keep it's gimmick without being shafted because you just can't use it for a bit.
ashen warren
"Life Drain"
frail mantle
who would win?
Triactis’ True Paladinian Mage-Hammer of Might
or
Up in smoke mace flail of rapid oxidation
ruby cobalt
my ban hammer
lunar berry
Oof
wicked swift
@lucid oracle maybe ping the creator of the suggestion with that instead
earnest raptor
@frail mantle maybe "The Fireball"?
lucid oracle
I mean you did also talk about it, you were just as much a part of the discussion
lunar berry
Your body is experiencing rapid oxidation
lunar berry
This should be the tooltip fo ‘on fire’
wicked swift
Yeah, I find it a good idea, but I can't exactly do anything about it can I?
lucid oracle
You can talk about it
ashen warren
Upgrade to the mourningstar ;)
ruby cobalt
So it becomes even worse?
lucid oracle
This is the discussion chat after all
frail mantle
lunar berry
Mourningstar + flailron
ashen warren
The only way mourningstar could be worse is making it damage the player
lunar berry
Also isnt it convenient that yharon and fishron have a similar ai
ruby cobalt
You see, there's a pattern there. Solar Eruption gets outclassed by Nebulash (!), Mourningstar gets outclassed by literally anything else, Flareon will be outclassed too if it gets the name and becomes an upgrade to Mourningstar
frail mantle
yharon is just post-ML Doucheron
wicked swift
@plush remnant Maybe you can make the FTL hook have normal hook function during it's recharge time, that way it is more useful instead of just being a RoD lite, thanks to @lucid oracle suggesting this suggestion change.
That's literally the only thing I can do with this idea
ashen warren
Tbh fab should buff the solar eruption to ignore immunity frames like nebulash
earnest raptor
Flairon MK2
frail mantle
marsh gust
since theres an ivy whip why not burning whip
earnest raptor
Too cheap?
ashen warren
Since the mourningstar has 2 flails how about making it throw 2 flails at once but sequentially instead of simultaneously
tulip parcel
here @earnest raptor, I english-i-fied your suggestion
Cosmilite Bar Crafting Recipe
Luminite Bar + Uelibloom Bar + 3 Exodium Cluster + 2 Phantoplasm + 1 Lumenyl + 8 Nightmare Fuel + 8 Endothermic Energy @ Draedon's Forge
: Exodium doesn't seem to have any valuable uses, also I think the sum of these astral materials should be able to produce the ultimate cosmic alloy.
wicked swift
Reviire, the other weapon you're thinking of is the Marked Magnum I think
ashen warren
Tbh I really don't like using to mean "why"
wicked swift
?
lucid oracle
Sounds like it, I haven't used it so I'm not sure if it would need any changes. The extra utility it has sounds really good
plush remnant
@wicked swift I'll edit that in, that's a great idea
ashen warren
@wicked swift
wicked swift
don't you like that?
ruby cobalt
That same kind of people also gets banned from suggestions for like 2 months, but let's ignore that.
frail mantle
wicked swift
Also nice double ping
earnest raptor
@tulip parcel because me
plush remnant
Would you guys want this hook now?
wicked swift
I starred it
plush remnant
wicked swift
But why the name? Am I missing something because I'm not English?
ashen warren
Change "feels" to "is" since otherwise it's wishy-washy
FTL means Faster Than Light if you didn't know
So you're not really teleporting you're just moving FTL speeds
wicked swift
Oh ok. Guess I was missing something because I'm not English.
plush remnant
Yeah, that's what I was trying to do.
I kinda like where this hook is right now. As written, you basically end up having a hook and an extra dodging tool, but only if you plan around it and use it carefully.
ashen warren
Also I suggest making it faster than the lunar hook because with elysian tracers I can move faster than it
astral gust
i like it quite a bit
ashen warren
So a slight speed boost and tbh it's a pretty nice hook
plush remnant
Yeah, that makes sense, I'll adjust that.
ashen warren
I like the "ball'n'chain" style hooks more but eh
frail mantle
Make it so that if you try using the hook when you still have the Destabilized debuff it instakills you
wicked swift
NO
frail mantle
yeees
ashen warren
Fallen stars are easy af to collect
plush remnant
ashen warren
Making them easier would make star cannon even stronker
astral gust
it honestly isn't that hard to collect stars
wicked swift
If ya want Fallen Stars, just install Alchemistnpcs
ashen warren
That mod is op tbh
astral gust
but using alchnpc for anyone that isn't young brewer is gayer
plush remnant
LuiAFK Loot Magnet at night 
tulip parcel
Titanic
Post-Polterghast Throwing Weapon
Dropped rarely by Juvenile Eidolon Wyrm after defeating the Polterghast.
A massive glacier, vaguely shaped like the titular ship. The Titanic is thrown at very, very slow speed,. To make up for this, Titanic is a massive projectile that goes through both enemies and blocks, flying lazily wherever the user throws it, unaffected by gravity. While moving in this sluggish arc, the projectile is hit enemies multiple times, so long as they're within Titanic's gigantic sprite. Roughly two seconds after being thrown, the iceberg suddenly drops, falling to the ground and lying on the ground for a few moments before despawning.
astral gust
i used to do that
plush remnant
Nah, I have something more op than even AlchemistNPC lite
plush remnant
Material Traders NPC mod
frail mantle
WhAt’S sO hArD aBoUt CoLlEcTiNg ReSoUrCeS jUsT uSe ChEeTshEaT lMaO
wicked swift
Oh yeah, Material Traders NPC
Allows you to buy Meld Blobs and Chaotic ore at the start of hardmode
ashen warren
Tbh the concept of throwing a b o a t at a god devourer amuses me
outer reef
I think Alchemistnpc is balanced around rev.
astral gust
it sounds fun and would probably look fun
tulip parcel
alright, I'll just float that idea out there then
outer reef
@ashen warren
tulip parcel
hopefully it doesnt' sink
ashen warren
ayy
astral gust
not gonna star it now
frail mantle
haha yes
outer reef
Oh no
astral gust
you ruined it with that joke
plush remnant
Instant Xeroc Pitchforks Post-Mech
ashen warren
err
frail mantle
post plantera, you mean
ashen warren
How do you get an ancient manip?
plush remnant
ashen warren
Crafting meld bars means ancient manip
plush remnant
Oh, duh
ashen warren
Chaotic ore is stupid af though
plush remnant
I am stoopid. I never bothered with Xeroc, tbh. I always went with the Lunar Armors.
wicked swift
Ataxia armor pre-golem
ashen warren
The lunar armors are so boooring except for mage though
tulip parcel
nebula booster! nebula booster! nebula booster! nebula-
astral gust
they honestly are the coolest things in vanilla
ashen warren
Ataxia armor post destroyer
wicked swift
No bc you need Core of chaos to make bars
ashen warren
Ah
plush remnant
So post Plant.
astral gust
but after looking at them so many times, they get old
ashen warren
The only pre calamitas ecto is from eidolon wyrm iirc
plush remnant
Ectoplasm is still gated by Plantera iirc
ashen warren
Calamitas makes ecto drop from eidolists
plush remnant
Ah
wicked swift
So Ataxia armor post-clonelamitas
astral gust
it's not the melee that becomes op
ashen warren
I always was melee
marsh gust
why titanic, why not her 2 sisters?
astral gust
it's the melee ataxia that becomes op
ashen warren
Melee Ataxia is used until bloodflare iirc though
astral gust
yeap
ashen warren
It's already stronk
frail mantle
Ver stronk
tulip parcel
that's simple latte
ashen warren
wait offtopic
tulip parcel
because the titanic sunk
the others didn't
how are you gonna find the others in the abyss
wicked swift
Titanic got eat by Eidolon Wyrm
ashen warren
I will say this vorbis: add a "why?" to your suggestion
astral gust
^^
frail mantle
astral gust
it's an amazing idea by itself
ashen warren
why not is a fucking stupid reason but aight
frail mantle
SLOW BIG BOYE
marsh gust
2 of them sunk, 1 got decommissioned
tulip parcel
oh really? huh
astral gust
"So that's where it went..."
wicked swift
make that tooltip tbh
earnest raptor
@marsh gust sisters...
astral gust
where the frick is vorbis
marsh gust
cause u refer to a ship as a she dammit
lunar berry
^
frail mantle
SLOW BIG GAL
astral gust
ree he's offline
lunar berry
literally all ships are girls
astral gust
^
marsh gust
have you watched arpeggio of blue steel? theyre all girls
ashen warren
So titanic is T H I C C
astral gust
hell even the girl on my pfp is a ship....
tulip parcel
btw
astral gust
from azur lane
tulip parcel
I added your tooltip sek
marsh gust
Ooo
tulip parcel
I'm not offline
ashen warren
Trashbox
astral gust
ooh thankyu
tulip parcel
though I edited it a little bit
ashen warren
was
marsh gust
yamato class is it?
astral gust
you play?
spark flax
anyways i like this weapon idea
lunar berry
why is it called shipping someone then
marsh gust
no i dont lmao, but ive seen it smwhr
spark flax
even though oof, that makes two neat throwing weapons from post-polter abyss
it's competing with the Valediction after all
wicked swift
But one is slow, the other is fast
earnest raptor
The Sisters Staff
Summon weapon, drops from Betsy
Summon the two cute female dragons. Instead of melee charging, this minions sticks to orbit of eneny and throw a flames to it. If enemy too weak, Sisters doesn't sticks to it, just throw flameballs.
lunar berry
‘as if it was 1912 again’ should be the tooltip
astral gust
i'm not a ship nerd yet so all i know is that the ship's name is unicorn
lunar berry
wit
marsh gust
a
frail mantle
So basically weaker Squid Minions?
marsh gust
i feel like ive seen that pic smwhr but idk.... anyways.. why betsy
ashen warren
While the concept of boating DoG to death amuses me greatly, Valediction is personally just as fun soooo why should it be added?
earnest raptor
@frail mantle no
astral gust
spoiler alert: unicorn is the main target for a ton of azur lane doujins
tulip parcel
I added a decent "why"
frail mantle
explain
wicked swift
slap signut with boat
astral gust
spark flax
it's a good why answer
and hell i wanted a "big thrown weapon that's slow" already
so thank you for indulging that
ashen warren
Non linearity is a better reason tbh but it still performs this
tulip parcel
yeah but I mean
wanton sun
are the next updates just gonna be patches? no new items?
tulip parcel
I made a "fatty bear" emote today
ashen warren
Yes
tulip parcel
I'm not that bright sequence
frail mantle
There will be a reward for the bossrush
ashen warren
Also tbh wrong place but eh
frail mantle
🤷
wicked swift
Can a cool dude star the titanic already, I want to star it.
tulip parcel
why stop at paper airplanes
frail mantle
sounds...interesting
ashen warren
Am I allowed to ping sors?
tulip parcel
make a consumable purchasable "origami" item for different points of the game
marsh gust
paper planes r always fun
astral gust
i say stop at paper airplanes and make it a paper spaceship for hardmode
frail mantle
maybe have it fly a bit further than shurikens and throwing knives
ashen warren
Why use paper planes when you have nades?
marsh gust
cause
marsh gust
paper airplanes are always nice xD
astral gust
there are so many damn choices for phm already
ashen warren
throw literal planes tbh
marsh gust
i forgot grenades exist 
wicked swift
first boats, now planes
marsh gust
SMH
ashen warren
A full line of machinery throwing weapons
tulip parcel
When do we get cars
astral gust
"A Spaceship"
a throwing weapon dropped by Austrum Deus
wicked swift
I want to throw a martian saucer at my enemy tbh
ashen warren
Cars, Boats, Planes et cetera
frail mantle
in pre-hm, paper air gliders. In hard mode, paper airplanes. Post ML, paper rockets.
astral gust
you gotta find the thing first
marsh gust
actually ima make a suggestion
astral gust
post ml throwing weapons are too good already
tulip parcel
Just got another idea
marsh gust
like an actual suggestion xD
tulip parcel
What summons are there post-deus
ashen warren
Ass
tulip parcel
Right
ashen warren
Seriously though.. dreadmine
tulip parcel
I’m gonna see if I can’t fill that void
astral gust
and you won't because vigil
wicked swift
Pygmy staff tbh
ashen warren
ewwwwww vanilla
astral gust
almost every vanilla summon weapon is a meme
frail mantle
tired haven
Xeno staff is at least good meme
marsh gust
"Paper Airplane"
the paper is stronger than steel
a throwing weapon sold by merchant starting from early HM. Flies in an arc and varies in speed and damage depending on the design. the "streamlined" design will pierce 5 times, deals less damage and moves faster while the "generic" design doesnt pierce but deals 3x of the base damage.
why? paper airplanes are always fun and early HM throwing needs more weapons.
wicked swift
Hey a cool dude
astral gust
i like the idea of working more on throwing
marsh gust
paper airplanes tho 
astral gust
even though post ml needs to not be touched anymore
wicked swift
Post-golem throwing tbh
marsh gust
now the question is to post or not to post
wicked swift
Viability: glhf
marsh gust
but its a paper airplane ._.
frail mantle
What does ghlf mean
astral gust
did you even read vorbis' titanic idea
ashen warren
Good Luck Have Fun
astral gust
go ahead
tired haven
@lucid oracle Lunic Eye was never meant to be a main weapon, the only real purpose was to debuff enemies with it. I'm not sure if it needs anything like that you suggested
marsh gust
ima just, post it cause.. why not
astral gust
oh damn
ashen warren
The problem with lunic eye is that it's the most fun early hm weapon imo and yet it's shite
astral gust
darts should be worked on too
ashen warren
I remember when I used it on throwing since it was more effective than anything else I had for cryo
pliant bone
Inb4, Lunic eye vs pre hm bosses
ashen warren
I've killed twins with lunic eye
tired haven
Now try golden gun tho
pliant bone
Lmao
spark flax
it's also one of the only things summoner has to make their gameplay more fun :V
frail mantle
Ive killed twins on expert with ice claspers and lunic eye
ashen warren
That would be interesting to try but time limit
astral gust
wasn't there a dart pistol/rifle upgrade?
ashen warren
Charged Dart Blaster
frail mantle
charged dart blaster
ashen warren
Post plant or something
frail mantle
damn it
ashen warren
It's either post clone or plant
earnest raptor
Paper Planes
Pacifist weapon
Speed: Insanely fast (like 10-12 planes per sec)
Throws simple paper planes, was... planes around player. But after few second theses projectiles fly to targets.
ashen warren
I like chocolattes' more tbh
marsh gust
jeez who has the hand that can throw 10-12 planes a second
ashen warren
paper plane ammo feed
spark flax
...pacifist weapon?
astral gust
guessing something like eggs
ashen warren
That's such a silly phrase
earnest raptor
Because paper not a weapon, but deal damage
marsh gust
i can only throw 4 a second at max and hit a target with them
astral gust
where it doesn't really do much against enemies
frail mantle
true damage weapon
spark flax
so true damage but like 1 damage
astral gust
🤔
earnest raptor
@spark flax 10
earnest raptor
Because 120 dps is silly in early hm.
ashen warren
"Pacifist: One who avoids violence."
ashen warren
"Weapon: An instrument of attack"
frail mantle
true damage weapon
earnest raptor
Insanely powerful weapon even with 1-3 damage
marsh gust
i feel i need a better tooltip for my plane lmao
marsh gust
i thought of that but no ye..
ashen warren
The paper is mightier than the knife
frail mantle
just make it say “weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”
marsh gust
full of integral equations
astral gust
the pen may be stronger than the sword,
but what use is it without the paper-
wait, where did it go?
marsh gust
I'll use that one ty
astral gust
i'm pretty good at these
ashen warren
Cool, but a bit long for a flavour text tooltip
astral gust
look at the shredder's tooltip
spark flax
Paper Plane
Flies straight and true... you hope
ashen warren
Shredder is a meme tbh
astral gust
i wanted to make a long one for titanic too
spark flax
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, I'VE GOT IT
astral gust
the fabled ship of dreams... inside the belly of a giant worm
is what i wanted for titanic
spark flax
Paper Plane
Paper beats rock!
marsh gust
astral gust
rock bosses where you at
marsh gust
I'll make it deal extra damage to golem
spark flax
perfect
astral gust
spark flax
there's precedent for dealing-extra-damage-against-certain-enemies anyhow
ashen warren
Actually those little touches are what I like in vanilla
spark flax
see. stake gun
pliant bone
deals 100 damage to Golem
ashen warren
I can't star you twice though
spark flax
can you guys tell i like the word 'precedent'
astral gust
isn't it covers rock?
frail mantle
the worst type of weapon: it does not poison you, nor does it kill you: by touching this weapon you get an unimaginable pain: a paper cut.
astral gust
oh fuck i'm thinking of something else
pliant bone
Is there a scissor-like boss though
frail mantle
Pumpking
pliant bone
Pumpking one shots you while weilding the paper planes because... scissor beats paper
astral gust
insanely fast true melee in where each hit has the chance to proc the webbed debuff on an enemy
or something that roots
spark flax
i
astral gust
maybe even adding venom?
spark flax
might write that
pliant bone
Sold by the stylist maybe?
astral gust
dropped by black recluses
pliant bone
Oh
pliant bone
The only useful thing about it is summoners going for the cryogen boss fight atm tbh
ashen warren
Spider snips?
astral gust
ooh good one
pliant bone
I mean it could prob still reference the stylist
ashen warren
put my name in the credits for the name if you use it
tulip parcel
and mine, even though I didn't help at all
astral gust
if it contains either snipper or spider then i'll do it
frail mantle
Speaking of the Stylist, have y’all seen what the Drunk Princess says about her
ashen warren
Swank
tulip parcel
hot wax
frail mantle
just have fabsol’s vodka in you inventory smh
astral gust
actually it can just be a regular projectile sword
marsh gust
she does wonders not only to her hair 
pliant bone
A true scottish would drink scrumpy every moment in their life
frail mantle
Haha yes
spark flax
i'm writing it
ashen warren
I started a new playthrough since new updoot
spark flax
end my life
astral gust
or maybe a shiv since snippers?
pliant bone
Is drunk princess a scottish 🤔
astral gust
drunk princess isn't a scottish
tulip parcel
she's a princess
astral gust
drunk princess is a fabsol
pliant bone
Ohhhhhh
ashen warren
She's a bull terrier
astral gust
so i currently have 2 ways of going with stylish snippers (final name btw, you win sequence)
- shortsword that releases venom-inflicting balls of web
or
ashen warren
that was my flattest joke yet
spark flax
i'm currently writing it as a true melee shortsword that does a heap of debuffs on hit
astral gust
- insanely fast true melee that procs venom on hit (stacks until 5 times)
spark flax
with the flavor text
Scissors cuts paper (and flesh)
You don't wanna know what this thing's coated in, trust me
ashen warren
lilith you teef
spark flax
o
astral gust
ikr
spark flax
sorry for tief
marsh gust
trust me
spark flax
can stop write if u want
lucid oracle
@tired haven Oh i didn't know the lunic eye reduced damage reduction
spark flax
didnt realise u were writing it too oof
marsh gust
tell me thats intentional, trust
ashen warren
Lilith could just credit you smh
spark flax
who knows :3c
ashen warren
Could collab in dms
astral gust
currently writing it here btw
spark flax
actually i can't come up with a good idea for this
ashen warren
Pshh I always use notepad
spark flax
sekairii i entrust the snippers to you
marsh gust
snipping tool
spark flax
Stylish Snippers
Scissors cuts paper (and flesh)
You don't want to know what this thing's coated in
Appearance: The stylish scissors, but smaller. Poison and hair-dye chemicals drip from it (visual effect only).
What It Does: A shortsword that stabs very very fast. Mediocre damage, but does numerous debuffs - it always causes Venom (stacking up to 5 like the Lionfish etc.), but has a chance to cause Temporal Sadness, Webbed, Poison, Ichor, and Slime. Yes, really.
here is all i had, use it as you wish
ashen warren
I still have a massive fucking txt for my hm metal alloy suggestion
frail mantle
What hm metal alloy suggestion
ashen warren
The one I haven't posted yet cause I'm shit with wording things to make it lower than 2000 characters
"4,108 bytes"
I need to half that 
astral gust
Stylish Snippers
Scissors cuts paper (and flesh)
You don't wanna know what this thing's coated in, trust me (credits to Lilith)
So I currently have 3 ways of going with this weapon:
1.) An insanely fast shortsword that occasionally throws homing-balls of venom that can stack until 3 times (stack meaning the exact same debuff can be used on the target, effectively tripling the damage of the debuff.).
2.) A regular projectile sword that can throw the same projectile as the first suggestion.
3.) A true melee weapon that swings insanely fast, and can proc the Venom debuff (stacks reduced to 2) and has a chance of dealing the Webbed debuff to an enemy
frail mantle
If it shoots projectiles it ain’t true melee
ashen warren
True melee would mean it does the venom ball thing on hit
spark flax
ye
astral gust
now to come up with a why
ashen warren
Almost no true melee for mechs
ashen warren
tbh anything that requires effort isn't accepted
astral gust
fuck
spark flax
also while we've been talking about this
we have a paper suggestion
a scissor suggestion
so there's only one thing i can do now...
astral gust
i should also be doing homeworks by now but this is more fun
spark flax
Ceaseless Boulder
Rock breaks scissors (and skulls)
It's just an ordinary rock... probably
What It Does: Throwing Weapon. Flings boulders that roll along the ground and are affected by gravity, making them best used from above or in close range. Boulders continue to roll for a second or two upon hitting the ground and upon impacting the ground send out a few tiny rock shards that do minor damage. Has a 1/10 chance of instead throwing a BOHLDOHR that does heavily increased damage and chases after enemies to a degree.
help me decide whether this should be early hardmode or post-golem
ashen warren
Post-golem makes sense so throwing has options
astral gust
actually yeah
astral gust
more boulder weapons for a boss that lives in the temple of traps
spark flax
uhhhhh fuck what should the crafting recipe be
frail mantle
Crumch
ashen warren
a boat, a plane and now a statue
astral gust
throwing the head of the god of the lihzahrd temple
spark flax
golem sucks ass tho, throwing literally just an ordinary boulder is way funnier
astral gust
good point
ashen warren
Throw the entire golem tbh
frail mantle
You hear fresh ATATATATATATATATATATATATATA memes from beyond...
ashen warren
Oh lilith
spark flax
?
ashen warren
Make BOHLDOHR drop it after golem
marsh gust
🤷
ashen warren
50 ⭐
spark flax
DISCO BALLDOHR
Bedazzle all that stands in your way!
What It Does: Thrown weapon. Flings slow moving, gravity-ignoring technicolor BOHLDOHRs that shoot lasers in a radial spread as they move and despawn after some time. Slow use time to avoid lag from having excessive amounts of lasers on the screen, but large damage.
How It's Obtained: Dropped by BOHLDOHRs after Golem is killed with a 5% (7% on Expert+) chance.
Why it should be added: Right now, the BOHLDOHR enemy (despite being loved by the community) has no unique drops save the Syntax Error, which seems like a waste of an enemy. At the same time, post-Golem pre-Moonie is easily one of the most painful times in the game for the Thrown class, if not the most painful. Adding a new unique drop that's just as silly and out-of-nowhere as the BOHLDOHR deserves would help mitigate this problem. Also, who doesn't want a disco ball BOHLDOHR?
it got 40 likes
...wait did it get 50
sometimes some likes don't show up on my computer
marsh gust
i thought bohldhor only spawn post SCal
pliant bone
Nop
ashen warren
40
spark flax
nah, it just only drops the SYNTAX ERROR post scal
ashen warren
fuck i didn't star it cause i was out of town nvm 41
astral gust
Stylish Snippers
Scissors cuts paper (and flesh)
You don't wanna know what this thing's coated in, trust me (credits to Lilith)
So I currently have 3 ways of going with this weapon:
1.) An insanely fast shortsword that occasionally throws homing-balls of venom that can stack until 3 times (stack meaning the exact same debuff can be used on the target, effectively tripling the damage of the debuff.).
2.) A true melee weapon that swings insanely fast, and can proc the Venom debuff (stacks reduced to 2) and has a chance of dealing the Webbed debuff to an enemy
Why this should be implemented?: While the Terra Shiv may be the omega when it comes to Hardmode shortswords, it is only available during post-Mechbosses, so how about filling that gap up with the Snippers?
And for the alternative mechanic of the weapon, the same can be said for true melee, pre-Mechbosses too can be very limited with weapon options.
spark flax
actually, wait, the disco balldohr is basically just a funnier Ceaseless Boulder
i might rework the disco and repost it
astral gust
i want my feedback before i actually suggest this thing i have worked too long for
pliant bone
thats 2 ways
spark flax
i like it, i still vote true melee but like, i'm biased
ashen warren
Post something like
"Blah blah blah"
"Or blah blah"
Have them be 2 message so they can each be starred
I did that with my alchemy table suggestion
spark flax
DISCO BALLDOHR
Rock breaks scissors...?
Throw a lifeform bedazzlement stone
What It Does: Thrown weapon. Flings slow moving technicolor BOHLDOHRs that fly straight for a few seconds before steadily falling, and fire rainbow lasers with slight homing in a radial spread as they move. Low use time to prevent lag from projectiles, but the central projectile itself does heavy damage.
How It's Obtained: Dropped by BOHLDOHRs after Golem is killed with a 5% (7% on Expert+) chance.
Why it should be added: Right now, the BOHLDOHR enemy (despite being loved by the community) has no unique drops save the Syntax Error, which seems like a waste of an enemy. At the same time, Thrown sucks ass post-Golem/pre-Moonie, so adding a new tool for them would help mitigate this.
(Plus, it's a disco ball BOHLDOHR.)
edited it a little - made the 'why it should be added' part more concise, changed the flavor text, and rewrote the description itself a little
ashen warren
Very nice
"Putting more than 1 items into one post in #suggestions-voting is a bad idea.
If a person likes one of the items in that suggestion, but dislikes other items, then either of these two will happen:
1.) That person will be forced to star all items in that one suggestion post, giving devs the wrong idea. The devs would be wondering which item people actually want, and which one people don't want, cause all items have the same amount of stars due to all being one post.
2.) The person won't star it cause they don't want to star something they don't like."
@astral gust
From pins
spark flax
alternate choice:
...
................do both
give it the projectile shooting effect as its right click
if the Aegis Blade can do it, so can you
astral gust
only if there's a spider boss
ashen warren
Lego though
ashen warren
I wonder when we'll get all the legendary weps
frail mantle
Boss suggestions are never accepted, but mini bosses are
strong monolith
"3 ways of going with this weapon"
has 2 ways
ashen warren
oopsy
marsh gust
tbf.. pre mech true melee = fetid baghnaks
astral gust
bad bags are essentially only for destroyer and 🅱lantera
and claw weapons are more of a gimmick than anything
tweaked it a bit
realized that i wanted it to drop from the spider cave
strong monolith
The God Slayer revival is only a fallback in case you time potion uses poorly; it shouldn't be a crutch to help these people as they need to learn the strategy of good potion management during a boss fight (also they need to learn to dodge enemy attacks lol)
ashen warren
snips fade into the distance
spark flax
* You are safe... for now
astral gust
lmao
marsh gust
ashen warren
Rip
spark flax
FUCKING OUTPLAYED
strong monolith
ashen warren
*concedes
spark flax
i'm sorry
astral gust
i'm honestly ready to put every counterargument in my post and try to justify it
argumentative writing
strong monolith
It doesn't need to be thesis length; just a short and sweet explaination will be nice
spark flax
oof
astral gust
oh fuck i'm tied with choco's too
strong monolith
If you do need this element in the explaination, then try making it a bit more hidden so that you won't sound stand-off-ish
astral gust
i might try doing that
strong monolith
wait shit someone else already said that
ashen warren
like more suggestions right?
astral gust
if i'm creative enough to come up with more then yes
marsh gust
well obviously showing scissors beat paper here 
ashen warren
Working on my alloy suggestion atm
astral gust
ha
ashen warren
Co-palladium Armor
Hi-tec Gladiator Styled
Melee/Throwing themed
Challenger Headgear
10 Co-palladium bars
Challenger Tassets
12 Co-palladium bars
Challenger greaves
8 Co-palladium bars
Both damage types create chain lightning that bounce to 3 other enemies on hit
Higher than normal melee/throwing speed and velocity
Higher than normal movement speed and acceleration
Lower than normal other stuff
i can't think of anything for this armor
help
ashen warren
fyi this is cobalt/palladium alloy
astral gust
cobalt/palladium wha?
ashen warren
"Has a Silver-blue and gold colour scheme
Roman style"
1 Palladium bar + 1 Cobalt bar + 1 Soul of Might = 1 Co-Palladium Alloy
astral gust
ooh that's interesting
ashen warren
Been working on it since the name thing came up a few days ago
spark flax
i like it
wicked swift
Ori-mythril alloy
1 Mythril bar + 1 Oricalchum bar + 1 Soul of Sight
ashen warren
"Co-Palladium Alloy
1 Palladium bar + 1 Cobalt bar + 1 Soul of Might = 1 Co-Palladium Alloy
Has a Silver-blue and gold colour scheme
Roman style
Shroomite upgrade? Martian upgrade??
Throwing/Melee themed
Dropped by....a boss...of some sort.. and ravager"
ruby cobalt
While it certainly does seem interesting, consider the following:
It requires fishing
ashen warren
Fishing?
astral gust
yes
spark flax
Orithryl
Copalladium
Titanite
wicked swift
Titamantite alloy
1 Adamantite bar + 1 Titanium bar + 1 soul of Fright
ruby cobalt
Cobalt + Palladium can't be on the same world because vanilla is fucking gay.
ashen warren
"Orithryl Alloy
1 Mythril bar + 1 Orichalcum bar + 1 Soul of Sight = 2 Orithryl Alloy give me a better name.. i'll wait
Has a Plantera colour scheme
Flower styled
Chlorophyte upgrade? Plague cell upgrade??
Mage/Summon themed
Dropped by Plantera and ravager"
oopsy
astral gust
make it so that it's just 2 bars
ruby cobalt
If you don't do that you're cockblocked by the most wonderful mechanic that has made many people cry in anguish because of the 200 quests achievement.
spark flax
ughhhhhhhhhh, fishing quests
astral gust
200 quests i thought wasn't so bad until i realized that i'm gonna have to go back to the little shit every day
spark flax
I have so much hate in my heart
ashen warren
"Titanite-steel Alloy
1 Adamantite bar + 1 Titanium bar + 1 Soul of Fright = 3 Titanite-steel Alloy
Black and red colour scheme
Steampunk themed
Unholy core upgrade? Spectre upgrade?? Ravager upgrade?!?
Ranged themed and true melee i suppose
Dropped by Calamitas and ravager (this is an effort to make the ravager drop pool massive)"
ruby cobalt
Every day.
quasi fable
I have done them all
ashen warren
Basic descriptions
spark flax
i like 'em
marsh gust
smh twoots you completionist
ruby cobalt
One single Terrarian day lasts ~16 minutes, so yeah.
If you don't make new worlds to tear through that - fuck fishing quests.
astral gust
they look pretty cool
quasi fable
I have like 1000 hours in the game 😳
astral gust
why not just uhhh
marsh gust
🤷
astral gust
hardmode fishing armor
ruby cobalt
Also at the same time I'd rather not populate early-HM with even MORE armors.
ashen warren
"53.333333333333333333333333333333" hours
ruby cobalt
But the idea's cool.
astral gust
oh yeah good point
ashen warren
I have the ach
spark flax
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ashen warren
Didn't realise it took that long
quasi fable
Post ml some exploratiob gameplay would be nice, im thinking related to the astral biome or something
spark flax
spider, forbidden, frost
astral gust
astral biome definitely needs a comeback come post-ml
it's too cool to dismiss
then again that's just the bias in me
ashen warren
The difference in recipes is because certain bars/souls are easier to attain then others
ashen warren
Tbh i always fish so i never thought about it anyway
ruby cobalt
Yeah, same, I'd rather not get random evil shit in my world and have control over mech spawns.
spark flax
yeah, same
plus, like
super fish tackle ultra special box helps
can you tell i can never remember its name
astral gust
because it's too long of a name and fishing in calamity
ruby cobalt
Supreme Bait Tackle Box Fishing Station
spark flax
it's a stupid fucking name
ashen warren
"8 Titanite-steel Alloy Bars = R.Y.N.O (yes it's a R&C reference)
Fires homing rockets in 9 rocket bursts like the clockwork assault rifle but with snail speed" whatchu think?
spark flax
sounds neat!