suggestions-discussion

[empty rose]

i know, color is a things

[round falcon]

Disco Ball-der?

[austere orchid]

GOD i hate american spelling but i have to deal with it.

[spark flax]

my guy use whatever spelling you want, no need to complain about it

also boulder staff sucks, no thanx

[round falcon]

BOHLDOR gets a unique non meme drop

[austere orchid]

i know it’s just i grew up in british.

[empty rose]

I will not change the name

Light show is a good name for me

[spark flax]

if you REALLY want to make a boldohr staff disco ball tho
you better name it the Disco Balldohr or i'll be sad

[austere orchid]

BOHLDOR weapon should honestly be a summoning item, summoning smaller BOHLDOR’s to attack.

[spark flax]

that's what i was considering earlier tbh

i might go write that up now tbh

[austere orchid]

which one?

[round falcon]

an entire Disco set of weapons

[spark flax]

disco ball thrown weapon

[austere orchid]

Joost Mod.
Disco Weapon Set.

[empty rose]

I think we really need many disco ball weapon

[austere orchid]

i mean honestly.

[empty rose]

The disco Set

[austere orchid]

okay enough bohldor..

[empty rose]

So... What do i do? I'm so confused by now @-@

[spark flax]

maybe just keep your suggestion as is

[ruby cobalt]

You expand it.

[empty rose]

and here we go again

[austere orchid]

for now, keep it.
you could think on it in the meantime, expanding, editing, etc.

[spark flax]

DISCO BALLDOHR
Bedazzle all that stands in your way!

What It Does: Thrown weapon. Flings slow moving, gravity-ignoring technicolor BOHLDOHRs that shoot lasers in a radial spread as they move and despawn after some time. Slow use time to avoid lag from having excessive amounts of lasers on the screen, but large damage.

How It's Obtained: Dropped by BOHLDOHRs after Golem is killed with a 5% (7% on Expert+) chance

Why it should be added: Right now, the BOHLDOHR enemy (despite being loved by the community) has no unique drops save the Syntax Error, which seems like a waste of an enemy. At the same time, post-Golem pre-Moonie is easily one of the most painful times in the game for the Thrown class, if not the most painful. Adding a new unique drop that's just as silly and out-of-nowhere as the BOHLDOHR deserves would help mitigate this problem. Also, who doesn't want a disco ball BOHLDOHR?

thoughts?

[empty rose]

too many BOHLDOHR for me

[austere orchid]

GLORIOUS!

sorry-

[spark flax]

disagree, this is exactly the right amount of BOHLDOHR

[empty rose]

But welp, thats a BOHLDOHR weapon so

it's good

[spark flax]

oops i posted it already

[austere orchid]

instantly 2nd star

[empty rose]

PRAY THE STAR

[spark flax]

also i just realised that the disco balldohr is essentially a thrown, non-homing but higher-dps version of the Magnet Sphere

i am completely okay with this

the magnet sphere was already one of my favorite weapons, so

[empty rose]

Now, A BOHLDOHR set with armor, weapon and more BOHLDOHR

[austere orchid]

no

too far.

you disgusting crea-

[empty rose]

Crea?

I want to know the end

[austere orchid]

i wasn’t finishing the word.

[empty rose]

I know

[spark flax]

also: what would a bohldohr set even do

obviously the summon bonus would give a bohldohr minion

[empty rose]

Yes

Summon class, the one i never heard of it

[spark flax]

melee bonus: double tap up or down to turn into a bohldohr and race around like sanic hedhog

[empty rose]

GOTTA GO FAST

[austere orchid]

you two.

were on my good list.

jevil, come in.-

[spark flax]

but you see the thing about this chat is

I CAN DO ANYTHING

the world revolving blaring in the background as i come up with yet another asinine suggestion

[empty rose]

CHAOS CHAOS!!!

[austere orchid]

“CHAOS, CHAOS!”

[spark flax]

M E T A M O R P H O S I -

[austere orchid]

inb4 a mod comes and ruins our fun.

[spark flax]

right, that's enough of that memeing

[austere orchid]

[empty rose]

I can do that

But I will not do that

[earnest raptor]

Hmm...

Phantomas Dragoon
Strange dragon-like creature, was start uncommonly spawning in Dungeon on post-ML
HP: Very high

What is does:
Jump around surface and shoots wall penetrating phantom blasts, sometimes on jumping unleashes Providence-like flames. If player moves in circle 9x9 tiles around enemy, he start shoots homing lasers and dashes.

Drop: Phantoplasm (6-13) (80%), Draconic Bow (shoots phantom blasts instead of arrows) (8%)

: More enemies into post-ML dungeon was... more nice, partly because lacking of post-ML bestiary overall. Also in every medieval castle needs dragon, even if castle under ground.

[spark flax]

pardon me?

[empty rose]

DUNGEON AND DRAGOON! YAY!

Hum, sorry

[austere orchid]

someone give me a list of ml’s drops.

[opal barn]

If only there was a wiki page for moonlord

[austere orchid]

i’m lazy.

[opal barn]

Have fun waiting

[empty rose]

I can say without Calamity, but in calamity

[glad thunder]

basically it drops hot shooty glass chunk, dolphin gun, bootleg starfury, a dead meme sword, and a book.

[austere orchid]

k.. trying to improve one.

[spark flax]

and video game reference

[glad thunder]

also some lunar pebbles and a gun that is useless

[spark flax]

bad daedalus armor

[earnest raptor]

@austere orchid no, i'm already have pain with ml drops sorting in modded plays.

[spark flax]

maybe a tentacle

and a shrek reference

[glad thunder]

oh yeah, some undercooked lunar calamari and a firework

those also drop

[austere orchid]

shrek is unfunny.

i see.

[glad thunder]

hot shooty glass chunk is very good

but very rare

[empty rose]

The drop

[glad thunder]

oof forgot about summoning weapons

but who gives two fucks about sentries, only useful for AFKing and Old One's Army even though that's pointless post moonlord

[austere orchid]

thank you.

[empty rose]

Maybe someone give three fuck about sentries

[spark flax]

i give a fuck about sentries! i want them to be good!

[empty rose]

Sentry is good between

Disco Sentry

[spark flax]

ceaseless hook is 2 away from 50

we're so close

[empty rose]

I already give a ⭐

[spark flax]

thenk

[empty rose]

np

[spark flax]

❤

[glad thunder]

if it hits 50 it gets implemented?

[empty rose]

No

[glad thunder]

or gets considered?

[empty rose]

[spark flax]

if it gets to 50 it gets sent over to devs

then they make the choice if it should be added or not

[empty rose]

and maybe, MAYBE the dev will do it

[glad thunder]

k

oh sweet just found my old comment suggesting a plague visual overhaul / plague expansion and it has 58 stars and 5 green checkmarks

what do the green checks mean again?

[spark flax]

sent to devs

it says so in pins btw

you should really go read them

[glad thunder]

I did, its just rules on how suggestions should be formatted

are there supposed to be only two messages pinned?

or are there more?

[crystal osprey]

I have an idea for a pre-boss summon item, since there isnt very many of them

[empty rose]

go ahead

[crystal osprey]

it would be an item made with all 4 of the normal ores

[spark flax]

check the pins in here, too

[crystal osprey]

when used it would summon an ore clump that would fire 4 different projectiles with different effects

[empty rose]

you mean cooper, gold, iron and silver?

[crystal osprey]

ye

[empty rose]

and what do the bullet do?

[spark flax]

or the equivalent alternate ores

[empty rose]

lead

i hate lead

[crystal osprey]

gold projectiles would make enemies drop more coins, plat projectiles would deal more damage, lead would poison enemies breifly, iron would slow enemies down breifly, copper and tin would have no special effect

tungsten would deal more damage than copper/tin, silver would stick to enemies and deal damage every few ticks

[empty rose]

And what will be the name of the weapon/staff?

[crystal osprey]

and no matter the combination of ores, it would always have a random set of 4 abilities

uhhh

idk

I cant think of a good name that would match it

[empty rose]

"Staff of the Ore"?

[spark flax]

Earth's Blessing

[crystal osprey]

Suspicious looking clump?

[empty rose]

Well, i let you choose

[crystal osprey]

okay

[empty rose]

Staff of the ore is bad, don't choose it

[crystal osprey]

ye

I just went with suspicious looking clump lmao

[empty rose]

Now @spark flax , do somethings with Earth's Blessing

[spark flax]

sounds like a plan

[empty rose]

Plan is good

[austere orchid]

making another super-item now.

not a weapon, though.

[empty rose]

What kind of item?

[glad thunder]

BOHLDOHR suggestion is good

[austere orchid]

you’ll see.

[austere orchid]

@hollow shell I dearly apologise.

[raw patio]

das a lot of text

[hollow shell]

Alright fuck you with that recipe

[austere orchid]

no thanks.

[raw patio]

That crafting materials thing in the crafting menu is gonna go across the whole screen lmao

[austere orchid]

it’s w h at

o h

[fierce iris]

cam you even have that many things in a recipe

[austere orchid]

eh here’s the thing:
magic storage

in fact actually, i need sleep, desperately.

[fierce iris]

i'm p sure fargo caps out recipe ingredient counts multiple times

[cyan lagoon]

post-birb

😰

[austere orchid]

should i change it?

@fierce iris i wouldn’t be surprised if it did.

in fact tell me later, i need some shut eye.

[fierce iris]

you may have to make the individual parts of this tool as materials just to make it fit into the ingredient cap if there is one

i do like the lore implications of an ultimate creation tool

draedon would have such a thing

[radiant meadow]

I recommend making it 1 of any lunar pickaxe and 1 of any lunar hamaxe and like tyler811 said, make a bunch of tools earlier on that eventually combine into this

[spark flax]

or just the Gallant / Blossom Pickaxe

[radiant meadow]

yeah, gallant would probably be better since it uses the lunar pick in its recipe

[umbral dune]

So, suggestion:
Make so that slimes have a small (10-15%) chance to give you the "Slimed" debuff, making you move at 1/2 the speed for a few seconds and give you the effect the slime gun gives you.

This is just to make the slimes a little harder, and so when fighting King Slime it can be harder too.

[fierce iris]

"-all vanilla fishing rods" as a man that has never laid eyes on a legit hotline or golden rod this is a bit too yikes for me but this also isn't really for my type of playstyle

[alpine garnet]

we already have a technical post-ml tier with ataxia, and you get tarragon after provi

[ashen warren]

yeah i know, but i think that adding them would make the game slightly easier to play through

[spark flax]

'-plague set that is useful up until moonlord, and is slightly more powerful than beetle armor, and can be crafted with plague cell canisters and other late hardmode crafting materials'

i suggested a plague armor set a few days ago that got sent to devs

way ahead of you >:3c

[soft grail]

we have ataxia and xeroc armor

[ashen warren]

@spark flax wow, i really hope that it comes out in the mod soon! 😃

[delicate raft]

E

[cyan lagoon]

any minimod

[reef rivet]

wait what ?

[delicate raft]

#suggestions-voting is only for suggestions

No talkin'

[reef rivet]

alright my bad

[ashen warren]

Galactica looks interesting but that recipe is fucking insane

I'd just cheat it in

It would be more fair

[fierce iris]

yeah the recipe is a bit much

[tulip parcel]

frenetic savant at 49/50

[fierce iris]

brothers are at 43 too

[tulip parcel]

yeah

they're right on the edge

[hollow shell]

Planetary Annihilation rework at 49 👀 💦

[ashen warren]

If only I could star the rework twice

I personally think that a calamitas themed summon and/or mage armor would be cool

There should be more boss-themed armors

Then you could put the bros on that

[fierce iris]

you straight up claim part of calamitas' power in the same way they putt it in the doppleganger

makes sense

and as the player you amplify it a bit from your natural ability in the same way NPCs can't use spells or weapons at the same level as you

[hollow shell]

Yaaaay

[spark flax]

Frenetic Savant, Ceaseless Hook both at 49 likes

we're so close

also Providence's (lmao that name) status message suggestion hit 50 and hasnt been ticked

currently brainstorming upgrades to legendary weapons

might write one later today, i'm busy gardening rn

tentative name: Cosmilichite

(Obvs its a Malachite upgrade)

BADA BING

BADA BOOM

[hollow shell]

👏

[spark flax]

@tulip parcel WE MADE IT

[tulip parcel]

wooo

shots all around

[spark flax]

thenk

[earnest raptor]

Prismatic Gun
Last Prism upgrade
Uses 20 mana per second
Hold left click to charge gun, and release to unleash deadly laser, was pierces, if you charge long.
What damage? If you just spam with left click, these deal around 100 damage with 15 speed.
On first 5 secs Gun recieve 75 damage and one target piercing per second, than, if you charge weapon 5 secs, this shoot laser with 475 damage and five target piercing.
Very weak?
On 5 to 12 seconds, Prismatic Gun recieve 200 damage and 5 target piercing per second. Then, if you charge weapon 12 secs, then deal 1675 damage and pierce 36 times, was look nicely.
On final stage of charging, up to 20 seconds (on 21 sec weapon stops charging and stays on max), Gun recieve 600 damage per second and 10 piercing. And then you release left click, your laser deal 6475 damage, pierce around 116 monsters and bosses.

Craft: Last Prism + 20 Bars of Life + 10 Core of Calamity @ Ancient Manipulator

Okay, which can be changed?

[spark flax]

many numbers

so in essence it's just a last prism with bigger damage?

[earnest raptor]

It's variant of prism.

Which supposed to dealing with enemies.

[tulip parcel]

I actually printed an upgraded prism a while ago

gimme a sec

[earnest raptor]

On most monsters and first bosses it's more effective, that prism.

[sleek wigeon]

600 damage? as in per bit of damage?

[tulip parcel]

there

[earnest raptor]

Prismatic Gun have very low dps.

[sleek wigeon]

oh 600 dps?

total, gotcha

[earnest raptor]

6745 dmg and extreme enough for oneshot hm bosses, but dps, yep, 600.

300*

Very low for post-ML, yeah?

[sleek wigeon]

Doesnt seem all that useful compared to the prism

[earnest raptor]

Gun much more economic.

[tulip parcel]

it kinda doesn't

hmm

a prism should be simple honestly

that's part of why people like it so much

[earnest raptor]

🤔

Yep.

[spark flax]

ye there's a lot of statistics in that prism gun and it confuses this lily

adding an example of how much dps the last prism does and what makes it more unique would be good

[earnest raptor]

Prismatic Gun
Last Prism upgrade
Uses 20 mana per second
Hold left click to charge gun, and release to unleash deadly laser, was pierces, if you charge long.
What damage? If you just spam with left click, these deal around 100 damage with 15 speed.
Up to 20 secs Gun recieve 300 damage and five target piercing per second, than, if you charge weapon 20 secs, this shoot laser with 6100 damage and 100 target piercing.

Craft: Last Prism + 20 Bars of Life + 10 Core of Calamity @ Ancient Manipulator

[spark flax]

like, cheaper to fire? more long term damage? Etc

[earnest raptor]

I'm simplify wespon.

[spark flax]

so it starts with lower damage than the prism but ends up with higher damage if you hold it for long enough?

[earnest raptor]

Yep.

[spark flax]

sounds neat. might want to include that in the description to make it more clear

[earnest raptor]

Oneshotting destroyer with cost of 200 mana.

:)

[spark flax]

also you already posted it earlier so you should probs wait a week or so to repost it ig

[plush remnant]

Why is DoG/Post-DoG so much more fun to try to design items for than anything else?

[raw patio]

Damn my suggestion for Yharon got 47 stars despite me getting memed on for it

[spark flax]

doggo best boss and everyone wants to make the next exo tier weapon

also awww thank u ♡ i literally couldnt have made the Halo as intricate as it ended up being without community feedback

[raw patio]

I kinda wanna make a suggestion for an upgradable crystal wand sort of thing

dunno where i'd start with it tho

[spark flax]

cosmilite solves everything

need to make a weapon more powerful? slap some cosmilite on that baby

[tepid root]

maybe some nightmare fuel cause why not

[raw patio]

Meh... I want it to be a little more unique than that but at the same time it'd end up being a little too special to myself, which I don't want to have happen because usually a weapon that's special to one person in particular is a dev weapon

And, well, I'm not a dev

I was thinking of making the first tier out of gems and meteorite (basically the phaseblade but for magic) then upgradable in hardmode w/ crystals and pixie dust, then post ml, then maybe placing the final tier post providence (requiring divine geodes for the last tier)

[plush remnant]

Ceaseless Void is my favorite boss personally. I'd kill for there to be a Ceaseless Void pet.

[spark flax]

also its a silly idea and im a firm believer that weapons should be made with a purpose And that mage already has a ton of options in hardmode

but

part of me is very tempted to make an early hardmode weapon similar to the last prism but much weaker, called....

First Prism
Your first prism. Awww!

[raw patio]

I'd star it :p

too many prisms

[sleek wigeon]

First Prism

Second Prism

Penultimate Prism

LAST PRISM

[spark flax]

Penultimate Prism drops from cu

ye

[worthy fiber]

Many prisms

[plush remnant]

IDEA HAS BEEN HAD.
Should I make a suggestion for Sentinel pets?

[spark flax]

You beat me there

[worthy fiber]

It's been suggested already

[plush remnant]

Rip

[worthy fiber]

We just need someone to sprite them I guess

[raw patio]

Hmm I'mma make that crystal wand suggestion

[sleek wigeon]

Penultimate prism and first prism seem like really cute ideas

not gonna lie

[raw patio]

gonna write it down in notepad first so I can make edits before posting it tho

[sleek wigeon]

Instead of a orbital death laser beam, first prism could be a low damage, constant piercing weapon with a wee lil beam

[spark flax]

i'm gonna write first prism now tbh

[sleek wigeon]

and no wind up

[spark flax]

....should i make it do true damage

[sleek wigeon]

Nah

[spark flax]

magic it is

[hollow shell]

Origin Prism from Ultraconyx Mod

[sleek wigeon]

Keep it in the family

[spark flax]

Fucking prisms, how do they work?

[sleek wigeon]

You seem, you uh

put magic in

Some bullshit happens

and magic comes out?

[spark flax]

SCIENCE!

or magic i guess

[earnest raptor]

Slender Head
Upgrade of Medusa Head
Actually turns creatures to stone (except post-ml bosses), more fast charging.
Additionally, on successful hit enemy recieve God Slayer Inferno, and user recieve Obstruction on 5 secs.

Craft: Medusa Head + 600 Nightmare Fuel @ Draedon's Forge

[sleek wigeon]

Kinda eh

[spark flax]

i like medusa head a lot but there could be a more creative idea

[sleek wigeon]

You'd think medusa's head would be a shitton stronger than slenders,

[spark flax]

...now i gotta write a medusa head upgrade too oH NO

[sleek wigeon]

ya know

considering how medusa's head is said to turn things to stone instantly

[hollow shell]

Call it "Balor's Eye"
in reference to the Castlevania Irish Mythology character

[plush remnant]

Schrodinger's Quiver
What kind of arrow is inside? No one will ever know!
Schrodinger's Bullet Pouch
What bullets do this strangely light sack hold?
Basically infinite arrows for bows and bullets for guns, and each arrow fired is a random arrow/bullet. So one shot you fire Vanquisher Arrows, the next shot you fire Wooden Arrows.

[earnest raptor]

Heh

[plush remnant]

Thoughts?

[spark flax]

sounds
Interesting?

[sleek wigeon]

Garbage but cool

[hollow shell]

Sounds like a clusterfuck

[plush remnant]

Yeah, I'm just bored and making up random stuff that pops into my head at this point, lol

[spark flax]

also obvs upgrade to medusa's head: Aegis of Athena

since mythology jokes

[sleek wigeon]

yes tbh

Good flavor

[spark flax]

damn now i have I D E A S

gonna write this up as soon as i finish eating

[plush remnant]

Greek mythology ideas? You just gave me one.

[raw patio]

Alright so I got an idea down for that wand weapon that I wanted to suggest

*METEOR WAND-
Same ingredients as a Phaseblade, but requiring 5 Fallen Stars as well. They also have different colors depending on what gems were used.

FALLEN HALLOW-
Same ingredients as a Phasesaber, but requiring a Crystal Serpent as well. Fired projectiles behave like the Crystal Serpent's.

STAR SPINNER-
Has one single design, regardless of what Gems were used to make the previous tiers. Requires 10-20 of each Pillar Fragment, 7 Luminite and 5 Galactica Singularities. Can inflict On Fire, Frostburn, Poison or Confusion, depending on the color of the projectile (Solar, Stardust, Vortex and Nebula respectively). Retains all atributes of previous weapons, but with homing added in.

WAND OF THE PROFANED-
The final tier; Requires 8 Divine Geodes to make. Capable of inflicting Holy Flames on enemies.*

[plush remnant]

Bow of Eros
Love is in the air!
Fires Heartseeker Arrows.
Heartseeker Arrows have a chance to inflict the Charmed debuff on non-boss enemies.
Enemies with the Charmed debuff will fight for you until the debuff runs out.

[sleek wigeon]

Why not use a phasesaber instead?

[earnest raptor]

Great Yey
Upgrade of Medusa Head
Actually turns creatures to stone (except post-ml bosses), more fast charging.
Additionally, on successful hit enemy recieve God Slayer Inferno, and user recieve Obstruction on 5 secs.

Craft: Medusa Head + 600 Nightmare Fuel @ Draedon's Forge

Then?

[plush remnant]

Did someone say Gungeon? :D

[sleek wigeon]

Gungeon? psssh

[raw patio]

It's a magic weapon so imo it shouldn't require a melee weapon

[sleek wigeon]

everyone knows Paranautical Activity is the true chad roguelite

Also i think enemies cant be made to fight you within terraria's limitations

[sleek wigeon]

I heard that somewhere i think

[nova orbit]

now, off to draw some pan's concept art

[raw patio]

They aren't taking suggestions for new bosses, btw.

[nova orbit]

i know

[ashen warren]

Iconoclasts flashbacks

[nova orbit]

im making those for fun

[sleek wigeon]

omniblade

Plz no

[nova orbit]

why not?

after all the Murasama is far worse

[sleek wigeon]

whispering death

Do you know how big the omniblade is?

Its omni sized

Aka ver big

[nova orbit]

have you seen the Muramasa?

is very small

but big on the boss

[sleek wigeon]

Ergo

Omniblade will be even bigger

[nova orbit]

i know

[sleek wigeon]

And thats a scary thought

[nova orbit]

but im pretty sure that you dont want a boss that will be able to kill you from the other side of the map

[fierce iris]

omniblade might legit be to normal scale

and fit the boss

[sleek wigeon]

lol

But seriously, i'd like to not be shredded by an enemy wielding a whispering death on me

[nova orbit]

about that...

Omniblade has only 84 damage

and the Murasama has 666 damage

[spark flax]

the muramasa, however,

[nova orbit]

17 i think

[spark flax]

is a dungeon tier vanilla weapon

easily confused

[nova orbit]

i know

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah and omniblade also happens to a real melee weapon

With a fuckload of range

Murasama has less range

[spark flax]

true melee bois

its no Grand Guardian tho

[nova orbit]

i know

but murasama is the japanese looking sword with highest attack i could think of

[spark flax]

they work best together tho

[nova orbit]

wel...

my Omniblade is in one of my chests

im currently using a grand guardian

[sleek wigeon]

Why same ingredients as phasesaber?

Er, blad4e

Why not just

use a phaseblade?

in the recipe?

[raw patio]

Because I tried to keep the theme of it

and I already said this but it's a magic weapon and imo it shouldnt require a melee weapon to make

[sleek wigeon]

Thats dumb logic

[raw patio]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sleek wigeon]

Plenty of class x weapons turn into class y weapons

[quiet abyss]

Some weapons in calamity do use weapons from other classes though, so you can defnitely use other weapons
Like ^

[spark flax]

the Book of Skulls is used for the Baleful Harvester

[raw patio]

I feel like it'd just be one unnecessary step to spend resources on a phaseblade THEN on a phasewand

[spark flax]

the fucking Inferna Cutter is used for the Elemental Axe

etc.

[quiet abyss]

If I may, you might wanna replace "Same ingredients as a Phasesaber" and similar lines with actual ingredients
So people don't have to look up the recipe of those as well

[raw patio]

Tru

[quiet abyss]

And it can be confusing as well

[raw patio]

Funny that im actually having to look up the recipe for the phaseblade/saber haha

[quiet abyss]

"Same ingredients as a Phasesaber"
That implies it use Phaseblade and its ingredients as well
Which would then contradict your "I don't want to use a melee weapon in a mage weapon recipe"

[raw patio]

I personally don't see how it implies the use of one but fair enough

[spark flax]

First Prism
Your first prism! Awww!
Fires a lifeform deterrence laser

Appearance: Similar to the Last Prism, but notably lower quality, with several chips and missing parts, as well as splotches of color/paint on it.

What It Does: As the name would suggest, it's similar to the Last Prism, but reaches only about just under a half-screen length. Instead of firing several beams, it instead fires one beam (that oscillates between red/blue/green colors at first) that first kind of swings around wildly akin to the converging beams of the Last Prism before steadily becoming more accurate until it fires straight at the cursor, becoming a pure white beam.

How It's Made: Space Gun + 10 Souls of Light + 5 Diamonds + 1 Ruby + 1 Sapphire + 1 Emerald @ Hardmode Anvil

Why it should be added: The Last Prism is a cool fucking weapon and there deserves to be more weapons with similar mechanics, so why not a damaged/Baby's First Prism equivalent for early hardmode? After all, since there's a Last Prism, why not a First Prism before it?

it is done

[quiet abyss]

...Also, you didn't even clarify what phasewand even does actually
All it says in the post is what its ingredients are, and about its colors

Unless I'm blind

[spark flax]

no, you're correct

i noticed that but decided not to mention it ahaha

anyways feedback on First Prism welcome

gonna write up the Aegis of Athena now also

[alpine garnet]

only weird thing about prisms is that they take a lot of mana

and mana flower is usually mid phm if used

although you can hotkey it, that's kinda akward

[quiet abyss]

Although it uses hardmode anvils, the fact that it only has pre-hm materials kinda feel weird to me
Perhaps adding in some souls of light would fit

[spark flax]

oh yeah, good point

[alpine garnet]

oh, missed that

early hm

that could actually be cool

I'd love more options early hm

[spark flax]

yeah, it's intended to be a very early taste of what the Last Prism does

since how can it be the LAST prism if there wasn't a FIRST prism?

[raw patio]

Alright, I've made the edits, Pinkie

How does it look now? :o

[quiet abyss]

Looks good now 👍

[raw patio]

Nice :D

[quiet abyss]

@sturdy latch You do realize that each world can only has one type of altars, right?

[sturdy latch]

Yes

Wait, what did I do wrong about the altars?

[quiet abyss]

While even bother seperating them into different altars, instead of making both items craftable at both altars?

Separating them would mean that to craft the Terra Glaive

You'd need 2 worlds

[spark flax]

yeah, the altar seperation is weird since no other altar-only item is altar type-specific

[quiet abyss]

1 world with demon altar, and another with crimson altar

[spark flax]

even, say, the Worm Food can be crafted at a Crimson Altar, etc.

[sturdy latch]

Fixed it

[quiet abyss]

There we go 👍

[sturdy latch]

So there- full compatibility, as well as a more clear OR.

[spark flax]

Aegis of Athena
The blessing of the divine surrounds this shield
Hold click to power up the aegis and release to fire a powerful pulse

Appearance: Medusa's Head but mounted on a shield with the Profaned color scheme, with floating crystals circling around it.

What It Does: Holding left-click holds the shield out, which creates a subtle circular shimmering field that steadily spreads out from the user until it covers almost the entire screen. All enemies within the field take damage a few times every second. In addition, the user's defense steadily increases while in use, up to a maximum of around 40 bonus defense.
Upon releasing the mouse button, a wave of light surges out from the player and covers the entire field before the field disappears, dealing large damage from ignoring i-frames and healing the user for a bit depending on how many enemies were hit by the attack.

How It's Made: Medusa Head + 5 Divine Geodes + 5 Luminite Bars @ Ancient Manipulator

Why it should be added: the Medusa Head is a nifty weapon in concept that unfortunately is almost always ignored by players of both vanilla and calamity, so it deserves an upgrade. The appearance of the weapon is a clear reference to Greek mythology, and the weapon itself is similar but different to the Medusa Head. In addition, the way the light wave the weapon fires encourages getting close to enemies and playing smart to allow it to deal damage to enemies for as long as possible.

thoughts?

Listen,

[sturdy latch]

That sounds pain-stakingly overpowered.

With +80 defense, you can virtually tank the living shit out of providence if set up with decent armor and accessories

[ashen warren]

80 defence is -40 damage

[spark flax]

good point

i'll tone down the defense buff then oops

fixed

[sturdy latch]

tough shit

[spark flax]

r00d anyways yeah i'll keep the idea but i might just post the First Prism for now

well not yet b/c timing and all, but

i don't get the reference

[ashen warren]

Thorium has a flame claw weapon

When you swing it slashes appear

It's actually pretty cool tbh

[fierce iris]

i use it on provi quite often

it's cool because it's hight DPS but you have to stay near to the boss to keep them onscreen

[sturdy latch]

What is DMC?

[ashen warren]

I think it's devil may cry

[sturdy latch]

Ok

[spark flax]

ohhhhh

gotcha

I played dmc4 but that's it

[ashen warren]

I've heard of it but I haven't played the games

[spark flax]

OH, Omayat is an anagram of Yamato

righty-o

it's a stupid name tho because all it makes me think of is Omanyte

[ashen warren]

Matoya?

Sounds cool

[spark flax]

isn't Matoya a character in Final Fantasy?

[ashen warren]

I wouldn't know

[spark flax]

https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/7/79/138Omanyte.png

[ashen warren]

Snell

[spark flax]

i just realised a suggestion i should make

would y'all like it if i made a post-moonlord upgrade to the Brand of the Inferno?

[ashen warren]

I never liked brand tbh

The hit detection was always really fucky to use for me

[spark flax]

same here

but like

its a cool weapon conceptually and i want to try to make it like, not suck

[sturdy latch]

Radiant Jewel
The sun is a deadly lazer
Craftable from 7 divine geodes, a last prism, and 5 galactica singularities at an ancient manipulator. Acts as a stronger last prism that inflicts daybroken.

[spark flax]

probably a post-moonie upgrade so True Melee has more stuff

[ashen warren]

"The sun is a deadly lazer" NO

[sturdy latch]

How can I change this?

[spark flax]

the sun is a deadly la~ser~

[ashen warren]

Last prism is good enough anyways

[sturdy latch]

Genisis tops it soon or later

[ashen warren]

Yea but last prism is way more fun soo

[sturdy latch]

Not submit-worthy

[ashen warren]

The thing is

Last prism upgrades are a bit weird

[spark flax]

suggestions that are "just [weapon] but stronger and later game" are boring

you gotta make it a bit more unique somehow at least

[sturdy latch]

Understood

[spark flax]

that's my hot take anyways

[ashen warren]

Cause it's useful for like 1-2 bosses

Then yharim's crystal

[sturdy latch]

[ashen warren]

The upgrade I mean

Though

A last prism that splits on contact with an enemy would be neat

Into 7 colours

Maybe an upgrade to the first prism or something

[spark flax]

oooh true

[sturdy latch]

an AoE effect!

[spark flax]

Dark Moon exists but that's a little different

well it doesn't exist yet it just got sent to devs, but

[ashen warren]

Disco ball

Shoots a last prism laser that splits E V E R Y W H E R E on contact with enemies

[spark flax]

that sounds like a disaster.

i love it.

[ashen warren]

make it happen

[earnest raptor]

Other, maybe, cool weapon:
Blade Storm
Shoot's barrage of deadly knifes
What it does: uses throwing knifes and shoots 8-16 high velocity knifes, was fly longer.

Can be infused by Flasks, was compensate lack of knife types.

Craft: 10 Mythril/Orichalcum Bars + 100 Throwing Knifes + 10 Soul of Night + 4 Essence of Cinder @ Mythril Anvil

: freakin's knifes fly and devastates enemies and bosses, was more cool?

[ashen warren]

uh

Magic weapon?

Throwing?

Ranged?

Actually

Merging the hm ores sounds neat

"adamantium"

"Titanite"

"Orichalthryl"

[spark flax]

honestly, agreed

Mythrichalcum

...actually that's a little unwieldy but whatever

[earnest raptor]

Edited.

[ashen warren]

Merging the ores and having them be crafted from different souls could allow a lot of freedom for throwing and summon

Orithryl?

[spark flax]

Orithryl sounds nice

[sleek wadi]

Orithryl sounds like a medication

[spark flax]

i should make some of these ideas into weapons

[fervent zealot]

isn't titanite already a thing in dark souls

[ashen warren]

shh

[fervent zealot]

impliment it so we can say calamity is the dark souls of terraria modding

[ashen warren]

Soul of might = tier 1, Soul of sight = tier 2 ores and Soul of fright = tier 3?

[earnest raptor]

Titanite exists in Pinkymod.

[ashen warren]

1 Soul + whatever ore amount yields 2 bars

And because fishing is basically required allow bars to be crafted together as well

[spark flax]

fishing good

[earnest raptor]

Fishing is breaking feature.

[ashen warren]

Supreme tackle whatever would help everyone will know the pain of fishing

[earnest raptor]

You can absolutely don't mine ores and gets all, was gathered in mines.

I'm find these simply and boring.

[spark flax]

rather spend time fishing in prehardmode and then get like 150 of every hardmode ore bar for free as HM starts than spend ages trawling through hardmode caves and getting extra corruption/crimson in my world for only a fraction of the ores i'd get from fishing [does a rad skateboard stunt]

[ashen warren]

The extra corruption can be hell for the jungle which is why I don't smash altars

sounds fun

Maybe calamity could spawn all 6 HM ores in the world on WoF kill in super small amounts

Or just regular small

[spark flax]

fishing is better: less risk, less corruption, more stuff, more money, extra souls of light and night at start of hardmode etc.

[cyan lagoon]

Ay whoa whoa woah

[earnest raptor]

And i'm say: fishing breaks core gameplay of Terraria, was taked from Minecraft.

[spark flax]

sorry if that's not okay to say also oops

[cyan lagoon]

Easy on the slurss

[spark flax]

i mean i'm actually a lesbian so it's okay for me to reclaim it technically

but yeah

slurs bad mmkay

[cyan lagoon]

Kk

Good

[spark flax]

sowwy

anyways im still trying to think of a good true melee upgrade to the Brand of the Inferno

like obvs the right click ability will remain the same (if maybe buffed) but i gotta think up a neat left click mechanic and that's hard when true melee weapons are all p similar

im gonna go watch crabby's true melee vids again for inspiration

[nova orbit]

how about this?

[ashen warren]

Uh

Why?!

[nova orbit]

why not?

[fervent zealot]

nothanks

[ashen warren]

Why not ain't good enough my dude

"Make calamity a mod that only adds the fox pet"

"Why?"

"Why not?"

[spark flax]

i guess you could say that your suggestion idea was...

critically panned

i've never been funny in my entire life and i don't intend to start now

[ashen warren]

Maybe there could be a mod that has all of the calamity toy items without the actual bosses and items

[fervent zealot]

this is the part where we pan the camera away from the mediocre suggestions

[nova orbit]

i see

then, how can i make it better?

[ashen warren]

make them not pans tbh

Perhaps have them lob pancakes at enemies

[fervent zealot]

by uh, not suggesting something out of place and poorly balanced?

[ashen warren]

Scalding oil

That sort of thing

That would be a start

[nova orbit]

how is it poorly balanced? how big do you think a pan is?

[fervent zealot]

pans don't belong in calamity, and you suggested all the wrong parts to suggest (stats are decided later, the reason why is important)

[ashen warren]

The reason why and the recipe*

[fervent zealot]

and if your best reason is "why not", then you don't really have a good reason

[nova orbit]

"dont belong in calamity" but waifus do, i see

[spark flax]

plus it doesn't say what they do so i'm forced to assume they act identical to a regular broadsword

[fervent zealot]

waifus are a done meme, no more are being added

[livid coral]

Dude I'd love to have a pan in game but yeah they'd need something unique as a close combat melee weapon

[fervent zealot]

and they actually do have a lore reason to exist too, smh

[nova orbit]

they would be like claws

only slower

[ashen warren]

Then why have pans? why not just make more claws?

[nova orbit]

who uses claws?

[ashen warren]

...

[fervent zealot]

a lot of people???

claws are godly

[sleek wadi]

Wall of text incoming

[ashen warren]

Light tbh

[sleek wadi]

Head of the Profaned God
Made at Draedons Forge
Made using:
Solar Flare Helmet
Beetle Helmet
Darksun Fragments
Divine Geodes

Provides light around you

Shell of the Profaned God
Made using:
Solar Flare Chestplate
Beetle Scale Mail
Beetle Shell
Darksun Fragments
Divine Geodes

Turtle set effect(Damage returned ignores both player and target defense)
Shield bashes spawn stronger Ataxia flames

Leggings of the Profaned God
Made using:
Solar Flare Leggings
Beetle Leggings
Darksun Fragments
Divine Geodes

You ascend and descend slightly faster
Elysian Aegis effect no longer slows you down

Set Bonus: Spawn 3 mini-guardians around you which provide both of the beetle effects and charge at nearby enemies, ignoring i-frames. When you drop down to 25% health you'll slow down, get a massive boost to defense and life regen(ignores rev+ regen cap), and spawn a massively buffed inferno ring that inflicts damage every tick. This effect has a 1 minute cool down.

Currently in post-ML every class guns for the same armor set, just with a different helmet. This is pretty lame and limits the concepts for armor sets we could have. So why not an armor set that is class exclusive, mimics one of the bosses, and ties in with melee's gimmick of upgrading weapons? Also it's Providence based because fire+insect=profaned.

[ashen warren]

holy fuck

[sleek wadi]

Told ya

[fervent zealot]

ooh, class specific postml armors (asides from the helmet swaps we have now)

yep, looking at the idea it fits in to postml rather decently

[ashen warren]

Class specific armors provide a great way to make weaker classes at a certain point in progression stronger without reworking existing armor

Melee is pretty much fine after providence

[fervent zealot]

haha

melee users get to use ataraxia for a lot of postml

[ashen warren]

am i the only one that used tarragon for true melee?

[fervent zealot]

true melee dies post dog

[nova orbit]

again

how do i make it better

[ashen warren]

There have been things already said

Look up

[fervent zealot]

1. give them a place in progression
2. make them distinct (not just a visual variety of claws, preferably)
3. give a reason why you think they should be added
4. give them recipes

[nova orbit]

1-after WOF
2- already said
3- you said it
4- that can be worked

[fervent zealot]

"why not" is not a reason

[nova orbit]

"claws are godly"

[fervent zealot]

and "slower claws" is a terrible distinction

[livid coral]

GIVE ME SOME LORE WEAPONS

[fervent zealot]

you want lore weapons? weapon that lets the player projectile vomit plague spit

there, lore related weapons

[ashen warren]

Distinct means make them not "just another weapon" and reasons should be good ones like "true melee has a hard time at progression area here"

[livid coral]

Shush your mouf

[fervent zealot]

. . . fuck i actually kinda want that for thrower now

[ashen warren]

Plague bee summon smh

[livid coral]

Can you spit and would it be a throwing thing? Do you throw spit?

[ashen warren]

When bee?

[fervent zealot]

well i mean you do THROW up

[livid coral]

This is profound logic and I cannot argue this.

[ashen warren]

Vomit should be magic tbh

[fervent zealot]

how is vomit magical, it isn't

[livid coral]

Magic has enough thanks give throwing a chance

[ashen warren]

True

Vomit's terrible as a weapon though

[fervent zealot]

not plague vomit my dude

you fuckin seen pbg

[ashen warren]

DoTs are almost worthless in calamity since all the hard bosses are immune anyway

[fervent zealot]

well still gimme a sec i'm gonna word that idea into an actual suggestion

[gritty kiln]

They were worthless in vanilla as well to be fair

[livid coral]

Thanks I'm approving it somehow

[fervent zealot]

thrower needs love and th lack of thrower weapons makes me vomit

[spark flax]

plaaaaaaague spiiiiit

[fervent zealot]

it's done'd

[hollow shell]

Flak Kraken comparison seems kinda useless

Only similarity is that they go to the cursor position, which you already mentioned

There we go

[tulip parcel]

oh, sors

you mind if I point out a couple suggestions that've reached 50 but not been forwarded

oh nvm he's gone

[worthy fiber]

Replace Chaos Slimes with Chaos Jellies

[lunar berry]

chaos jelly

[tired haven]

[ruby cobalt]

Your suggestion is absolutely pointless btw, but I'll star it anyways.

[spark flax]

Statis' Fury
The weapon of a fabled ninja clan's last descendant
Does not cause summon damage penalties while held
Right-click to call a miniature slime god core to fight for you (this costs two minion slots and is boosted by summon damage buffs)

What It Does: Thrown/Summon weapon - left click is Thrown, right click is Summon. Left clicking throws out a statigel chunk that explodes upon contact with enemies into smaller slime bullets - does not pierce but can hit multiple enemies with the slimesplosion and radial shots. Right-clicking summons a Mini Slime God Core that attacks by charging towards enemies and rarely firing slime mines that linger in the air for a second or two. Holding and using the weapon does not incurr the summon damage penalty.
It could also have a early post-moonlord upgrade, but that's for another suggestion entirely if that would happen, I guess.

How It's Made: Corroslime Staff + Crimslime Staff + 50 Sticky Grenades + 20 Purified Gel + 5 Titanium/Adamantite Bars @ Hardmode Anvil

Why It Should Be Added: Since Statis' Belt of Curses implies a summon/thrown hybrid build, it only makes sense that some equivalent equipment that can work with that without causing summoner penalties. At the same time, early hardmode is a time quite lacking for thrown, and it would be a reasonable place to add it given the Slime God was defeated not all that much earlier, as well as giving a unique summon option early hardmode. Finally, Statis is an interesting lore figure and it'd be nice to have more equipment relating to him!

i spent a while planning this one out. thoughts?

[worn bay]

I like that a lot!

I'm not a thrower myself but a weapon i could use as asummoner would be sick

And Statis is rad

[spark flax]

Thrown and Summon are my two favorite classes and i know a lot of other folks who feel the same way, so

i'll probably post it tomorrow along with the First Prism

[lunar berry]

first prism

sounds interesting

don’t make it broken tho

[ashen warren]

Devs decide stats though

[earnest raptor]

Sunlight Tornado
Unique throwing weapon
Instead of throw, this weapon streams tornado from player to cursor.

Good idea?

[empty rose]

wait... A throwing weapon that you don't throw?

I'm not someone who use throwing weapon so

[marsh gust]

thats just throwing the game

[empty rose]

The description make me thinks this is a magic meapon and not throwing weapon

[sudden quail]

So, like a Magic Missile or a Shifting Sands?

[empty rose]

I don't know, he doesn't respond back

[austere orchid]

@spark flax @radiant meadow I do recall someone saying Fab prefers not to use an item that already makes something else.

[spark flax]

yeah, i prefer not to add in weapons that already have upgrades and such

seems like it's unlikely they'll both get in

[austere orchid]

I'll edit it, the crafting recipe is a bit wew.

[austere orchid]

I'll give Rover a bit of a break, and write all of my suggestions in a doc.

And only post one of them every now and then.

As well as breaking down the suggestions into material parts.

To shorten the actual item recipe.

[ruby cobalt]

@molten nova this isn't a suggestion btw, it should go into #wiki-basic

[molten nova]

doesnt look like a channel a mere mortal like me has acces to

[ruby cobalt]

Yeah, it requires wiki contributor for access.

Which can be gotten through asking any mod

I'll think of some way to add that to the wiki though, so dw.

[molten nova]

kk, no worries

just trying to think of the newfriends after me that will run into the same thing

[ruby cobalt]

Quite a lot of people run into the same issue, actually.

[frigid sphinx]

Someone should probably send over Vorbis's suggestion

[raw patio]

The suggestion to have moon lord drop more Luminite is at 49 stars

[pine solar]

50 right now

[sleek wigeon]

@ruby cobalt What was gurgehs not suggestion?

[ruby cobalt]

"Add the fact that you need all weapons in Celestus recipe to be of the same damage type to the wiki"

It's in the description now, feel free to move it somewhere else.

[sleek wigeon]

Fair enough

[ruby cobalt]

Wiki didn't really specify that you couldn't mix&match different damage types.

[raw patio]

y'all im hyped

my first ever suggestion's at 49 stars

[sleek wigeon]

inb4 noone stars your suggestion

[raw patio]

Yknow, now that i think about it, i should probably stop mentioning it since it'd seem like im just fishing for stars

and im not, just to make that clear

[worthy fiber]

Why wouldn't you fish for stars at that point

[raw patio]

im just a happeh boye

[sleek wigeon]

@austere orchid Sounds like a luiafk thing ngl

[austere orchid]

read bottom.

[ruby cobalt]

Recipe's too big.

[austere orchid]

r e a d b o t t o m .

[ruby cobalt]

This is solely from coding perspective btw.

Ye, ik, just mentioning it.

15 materials isn't an option in recipes.

[sleek wigeon]

hmmm?

why not, exactly?

[austere orchid]

being revamped because it was awful.

[worthy fiber]

Not sure how wanting a sprite change would make you a weeb

I also don't see why that would be necessary; water elemental siren is fine

[night cradle]

^

[raw patio]

LETSGOOOO

fifty stars :D

[sleek wigeon]

Actual siren isnt an elemental

hence it makes no sense that she would be summoned by a heart of elementals

[austere orchid]

probs the closest thing to a water creature

well. it is one.

[little raptor]

i miss the old Elemental Heart lure

[austere orchid]

wdym

[little raptor]

hit or miss

[low hedge]

interesting

[cyan lagoon]

@sacred thorn elaborate

[jolly mirage]

@sacred thorn You should try to be more specific in what you want with your suggestions. Just saying "Meteor Tracker" doesn't tell us too much

[sacred thorn]

accident sorry

[cyan lagoon]

Missing a few details unless you're already getting to them

Like how is it obtained?

[jolly mirage]

So you want something similar to the Grim Pointer from Thorium Mod but for meteors?

The only problem I really see with that is that there's always the possibility of there being multiple meteors in a world

You should also elaborate how you'd get the item

[sacred thorn]

finished

sorry i forgot that i need to shift + enter

[cyan lagoon]

@sacred thorn i'd appreciate if you have both the image embed and the suggestion in the same message

[jolly mirage]

Thank you for elaborating. TBH, that has happened to me a few times in the past. I'd love to see something like this, but I know that it would probably be annoying to code

[hollow shell]

I don't feel like the image is super necessary, could just say "Sometimes meteors fall into lakes or pits, making them hard to find"

Good suggestion idea tho

[alpine copper]

I feel it similar to the telescope from expeditions

The one that shows fallen stars on the world map

[radiant pawn]

That meteor screenshot gave me a sad shook

[hollow shell]

Oh wow, I didn't even notice the meteors hit each other

I also didn't notice he's using a wildly out of date version of the mod :P

[night cradle]

I remember when someone's meteor once hit in the Abyss.
Or was it my meteor...?

[sacred thorn]

i know its old but i dont think it would matter

[faint rivet]

Isn't that like impossible @night cradle? Thought meteors couldn't land in oceans

[night cradle]

On my vanilla playthrough one of the meteors did

and so did one, but landed in the abyss
You know, one of the meteors even landed in one of the corruption chasms, so it's basically possible for any meteor to hit any place.

[radiant meadow]

I saw a picture once of a meteor falling in a 2-block shaft to enter a pyramid so anything is possible

[austere orchid]

did it go in

because i found a mentor inside the fucking pyramid

addition to that it was on mobile

[radiant meadow]

yeah, it was in the pyramid

it wasn't my world though

[keen palm]

"Bring back the Hollow Role, and just make it so you can get it as long as you have ((Fabsol-convincing)) images"

Any thoughts?

[radiant meadow]

It's gonna be a thing next update

You just gotta no hit the boss rush in rev+

[keen palm]

yikes

atleast I can give myself a sense of pride and accomplishment

[austere orchid]

@radiant meadow i was just casually strolling in a new world and bam

in the pyramid

[viscid smelt]

okay I'm just curious, since it's been a while since I've played rev calamity, are golems weapons and drops about the same in rev as expert?

[hollow shell]

Should be.

[viscid smelt]

Cause in my opinion most all the golem buffs really suck in expert, for the tier you get them there's no real use for them

[hollow shell]

Well except he can drop Aegis Blade

[viscid smelt]

at the very least if they're the same in rev they should maybe get a slight buff for rev (idk if that's been done before, I just presume it has, if not, it could just get a small buff across the board)

but I'll do a bit of testing later to see how it fairs if need be

also last I recall golem was also an absurdly underwhelming boss, once again in expert

I don't know mujch on rev

but I've not had issue with golem before

[fervent zealot]

golem is actually an early hm boss just like fishron, that's his secret

[hollow shell]

That's why you can craft the Temple Key and Old Power Cell right after WoF

[fervent zealot]

why craft them when you can just waltz in phm

[hollow shell]

cuz you can't summon him

[cyan lagoon]

and hoiks are for exploiters

[fervent zealot]

hoiks are a game mechanic though

[hollow shell]

hence the term "exploit" and not "cheat"

[viscid smelt]

okay so golem and golem drops are purposefully left underpowered because he can be fought, and his loot can be attained super early??

I thought he was made to be intentionally post plantera, but if that's not the case then ok

[fervent zealot]

golem is a weak boss who even in vanilla has laughably weak drops

[hollow shell]

If you wanna suggest that Golem's drops be buffed, go ahead

[fierce iris]

golem drops exactly three things of value in vanilla

eye of golem, sun stone, and picksaw

but since sniper scope and celestial shell are outclassed in calamity he only has the picksaw left

[cyan lagoon]

sniper scope necessarily isnt

daedalus emblem uses it as an ingredient but i see wym

[viscid smelt]

yeah I was going to, but again if he's intentionally left easy because he can be accessed early on then idk if it's worth it

I'd rather he be post plantera so I'll suggest it regardless

[cyan lagoon]

actually

golem isn't that easy

since taking the altar out of its designated room is pretty much an exploit in itself

[viscid smelt]

could just make the altar not breakable by any pre picksaw pickaxe

I'll add that to my suggestion when I make it tbh

I'm going to test the weapons a little bit first though

just to see how much they need to be buffed if, if they actually do

[worthy raptor]

It isn't, you use actuators to remove the altar

[hollow shell]

It's

yeah

Good on you for testing the weapons before suggesting

[lost agate]

[viscid smelt]

Hmm, that's an issue ig

couldn't you uh

make it so it just doesnt drop

and make golem drop the altar

or make it craftable, I guess

the thing used to craft solar tablets, maybe

since that is dropped by things other than golem

and then maybe a beetle scale or something, which is dropped from golem right?

it'd need to be a small amount so you dont accidentaly break the alter and have no way of spawning it again

oh ig you could make witch doctor sell the alter

[worthy raptor]

Removing the exploit is meh imo, since fighting golem inside the room is dumb. since it's not a stable size, it can just make your fight bullshit or trap him in a wall for a free fight or something

Golem is just dumb tbh

[viscid smelt]

I always fight him in the temple for the first time, and again I've almost never had an issue with him :s

idk, again, I'll do testing to see

it makes more sense to do it that way to me. The altar spawns in the temple for a reason. Is it possible to modify preexisting world gen?

cause if so you could try to make that room a little bigger

and make the outside smoother or something

that'd probably help any issues with it

[viscid smelt]

Is Terra Edge too powerful of a weapon for me to be testing against Golem

personally I like grindy stuff so I tend to get the best gear possible, so Terra Edge to me doesnt seem unfair to ues against golem, but I can use a less powerful weapon for testing purposes if I should

@hollow shell ?

I guess I ca ntest multiple different weapons if Terra Edge turns out too powerful

.....just gotta find the temple first

[hollow shell]

I mean ideally you'd wanna use several different weapons

or different armor/accessory builds, like for each class

Not sure how extensively you want to test

[viscid smelt]

Okay well I have a build that gives damage to all classes, so I'll just swap chlorophyte head piece depending on each class

and I'll test a handful of different weapons and such to see

I mean I did plantera with little to no setup with no prefixes on any of the accessories or weapon, and no buffs fairly easily, so idk I feel like this is too powerful LOL

we'll see

[spark flax]

first prism is up

[viscid smelt]

ok well that was laughably easy, at least in expert mode. I'll go to a revengance world and see if that makes a difference

then I'll probably test on rev since I feel like that's what most calamity players will play on

unless I should be using expert or deathmode or something as the standard

[worthy fiber]

Nice tooltip

[keen palm]

Prepare for the worst suggestion ever

The Tyrant King's Shield

[alpine garnet]

could ask here first if not sure

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen palm]

What does it do?: Basically combines all the effects of the Plague Hive, Astral Arcanum, and Asgardian Aegis. Most of the effects will be moderately reduced to counteract all of that i.e. the plague hive's aura would be incredibly small, have very little boosts compared to the original item.

 Side stuff: Maybe have the player just take 90% less DOT and lessened stat decreases from debuffs OR have a +20%~ damage taken stat tacked on?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
           Description: Looks like an auric styled shield, with Yharim's "symbol" on it. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
Reason?: Aside from the darksun ring, there are no Exo accessories, and at the point of the game, it feels odd that ( aside from Scal debuffs ) those two debuffs can still hurt you.

Crap indents

[hollow shell]

iunno, I feel like that'd be too many varied abilities for just one accessory

[keen palm]

Maybe lessened stats all around?

[hollow shell]

They're already kinda messes on their own

to put em all together would be madness

[radiant meadow]

which 2 debuffs?

[hollow shell]

Plague and Godslayer Inferno

[keen palm]

Or maybe make it a seperate accessory on it's own

[radiant meadow]

silva doesn't grant immunity to them?

[hollow shell]

@worn bay Say Drill Containment Unit the first time cuz I was really confused for a second

[spark flax]

DCU (Drill Containment Unit)
RCU (Reconstructor Containment Unit)
MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

know the difference, it could save your life(?????)

i'm sorry

[radiant meadow]

you should be

[hollow shell]

ICU (Intensive Care Unit)

now it makes sense

[keen palm]

Anyways, would having Plague Heart and Astral work as a separate accessory work?

[hollow shell]

What

[radiant meadow]

you mean combine plague hive and astral arcanum effects?

[keen palm]

yes

my bad

[radiant meadow]

but not aegis?

[keen palm]

What Official said

[spark flax]

sounds good to me

Tyrant King's Bulwark

[hollow shell]

I mean that still sounds like a mess but lesser of a mess than combining all three

[keen palm]

So do I have the go to post this?

[spark flax]

honestly maybe try to find another accessory to combine the plague hive with

[keen palm]

will do

[hollow shell]

Wait actually

yeah Silva does provide immunity to Plague and GSI

iunno why you want that added to the Aegis

[ashen warren]

Add ataraxia tbh

And the upgrades

[keen palm]

That feels... odd

[radiant meadow]

and if silva provides immunity, auric does too

[keen palm]

Welp, scrap that suggestion

[hollow shell]

The only time you have after obtaining the Aegis and before obtaining Silva is just
Bumblebirb

[radiant meadow]

and phase 1 yharon

but neither inflict plague or gsi

[hollow shell]

Right.

Either way

yeah

[keen palm]

It feels weird having a armor provide immunity to two specific debuffs

[hollow shell]

D

[radiant meadow]

it doesn't

[hollow shell]

Do you know what Silva does?

[ashen warren]

Silva is for ALL debuffs

[radiant meadow]

it provides immunity to like 50 debuffs

[keen palm]

Oh

[radiant meadow]

all except like 10

[ashen warren]

And those are for balance

Scarf cooldown and whatnot

~~infinite counter scarf ~~

[keen palm]

I need to go take some 5 hour energy...

[radiant meadow]

It even provides debuff immunity to 2 debuffs that can't be inflicted on the player 0.o

[ashen warren]

"The only ememy-inflicted debuffs that are not provided immunity for are as follows: The Tongue, Horrified, Obstructed, Moon Bite, Crush Depth, Horror, Marked for Death, Weak Petrification, Icarus' Folly, Extreme Gravity, Warped, and Vulnerability Hex."

Maybe there could be a way to be immune to crush depth?

[spark flax]

combine Plague Hive with Lumenous Amulet or whatever it's called?

[hollow shell]

Why Plague Hive of all things?

[ashen warren]

Lumenous with.. abyssal diving whatever and that's just slapped into absorber

[spark flax]

good point

[ashen warren]

Wait..

I meant amalgam

I just had a thought

Have the "Abyssal Diving Suit" craft into leviathan ambergris + lumenous amulet

And that's put into amalgam

[hollow shell]

Jesus Christ

Its tooltip would be a Wikipedia article

[ashen warren]

That's the point tbh

[viscid smelt]

plantera gave me a bit of a struggle on rev vs expert, but I was in a significantly worse area, and forgot to give myself healing potions

and didnt give terra edge a prefix

[ashen warren]

Why are you talking here?

This is #suggestions-discussion

[viscid smelt]

yes

I know

I was talking about potentially suggesting a buff to golem and golem gear

earlier

there was a discussion in between

I'm testing to see if golem needs a buff or naw, then gonna test golem gear

[ashen warren]

Golem is pretty difficult in rev if you fight him in temple

Picksaw is exactly as strong as it needs to be

Golem drops are otherwise not consequential

[viscid smelt]

In Expert mode, as I said earlier, he's a BREEZE

[ashen warren]

You can destroy his fists right?

That's what makes the fight a joke

[viscid smelt]

didnt hardly get me below 500 hp (I'm at like 540 cause absorber)

yeah

[ashen warren]

absorber is post ml wtf

[hollow shell]

Well, Post-Cultist

[ashen warren]

"Crafting Station
Ancient Manipulator" close enough

[viscid smelt]

? it is

[alpine garnet]

cultist is still post-golem 🤷

[ashen warren]

Cultist is post golem

Redo that fight

[viscid smelt]

o anncient manipulator

ic

kk

I havent fought him on rev yet, but ye will redo exp

[keen palm]

New and last suggestion: The Triad

Combines the effects of Draedon's heat, Siren's heart ( both variants ), and Frost Flare.
TOOLTIP: Combines the noteworthy stats of Draedon's and Sirens Heart, as well as the Frost Flare, but slightly lessened.

Post-Dog accessory

[hollow shell]

[keen palm]

uh oh

[spark flax]

i like it! altho i already suggested a draedon's heart upgrade earlier that got sent to dev server

[keen palm]

I'm not warned, right sors?

[radiant meadow]

nah

[hollow shell]

I can't warn lol

[viscid smelt]

okay so this time I took significantly more damage but still killed him fairly low effort, as in no prefixes except on terra edge, and like well fed, night owl, and regen potion

[radiant meadow]

just sounds like interesting coding and nice long tooltip

[viscid smelt]

but it should be noted that I got attacked by multiple plaguebringers in that fight

which is where more than half the damage came from

so I still think golem is a joke

okay back to rev

[keen palm]

So should I post that suggestion?

[hollow shell]

I mean sure yeah

[viscid smelt]

ok ok I did him in rev with more potions, not all potions, but most of the standard vanilla potions, no real arena (in the temple, just with buttons and spikes removed), chloro gear, terra edge

and it was harder than expert, yeah for sure, but idk I feel like if I took literally any other melee weapon that was meant for single target enemies as opposed to a pierce weapon like tblade/tedge then it'd be a lot easier

more testing to do

[hollow shell]

might wanna just

do all the tests and then come back with your results
instead of live progress

[viscid smelt]

but rover I need to make sure the people don't forget about me I'm so lonely :(

yes ok I'll do that

[nova orbit]

two ideas for transformations

[radiant meadow]

what is that supposed to mean?

[nova orbit]

first one is a scythe that will allow you to fly

[hollow shell]

turn into scythe
turn into hole

[nova orbit]

second one is the same, but you are almost blind

[radiant meadow]

sounds almost like Thorium transformations

[hollow shell]

because they're transformations?

[spark flax]

so uh

Jevil and Cream, then

[nova orbit]

mi idea is that the first transformation will give you extreme speed, a bit faster than the ufo, and will make you inmune to things like Icharus folly, distorted, etc. but you cant attack

[spark flax]

nice deltarune ref/jojoke

[nova orbit]

second one you are almost blind, and you deal some medium damage to anyone in your path, even NPCs

[radiant meadow]

so you could quickly transform and revert to rid you of Icarus' folly?

if so, I like already

[nova orbit]

i think it should take you 1 or 2 seconds to transform and back

[radiant meadow]

well icarus' folly lasts 50 seconds, I think I can buy the time

[nova orbit]

nice!

[radiant meadow]

let's not point out that it largely removes an important aspect of prov's godawful fight

[nova orbit]

mmm...

for balance

it can remove icharus folly, BUT, you take extra damage while you are in scythe form

you have to wait a bit before changing back

or it can be hard to make

[radiant meadow]

still sounds golden for no hits 0.o