suggestions-discussion

[ashen warren]

For the Ravager, I dunno...

Perhaps it just wanders the underworld until you find it.

And if you come across them you just bloody RUN

[spark flax]

i like that, given the ravager unlock announcement is literally "An ancient automaton roams the land"

maybe also have it appear on the outer thirds of the world like king slime

[ashen warren]

That’s what I was thinking.

[digital sparrow]

Maybe in early hardmode to emphasize the “ravager” part

[ashen warren]

Have it randomly spawn very rarely in the crags.

And since it’s really slow you can just sorta run away if you don’t want to fight it.

[spark flax]

idk what itd be doing in the crags tbh

[digital sparrow]

Like you should be like “run” when you see the thing in the outer third

[radiant meadow]

who goes to the crags post brimmy?

[spark flax]

and besides who even spends much time down there lmao

[ashen warren]

Nobody.

[spark flax]

plus having early ravager would give skilled players a way to sequence break

[ashen warren]

That’s why it’s the perfect place to hide.

And it wouldn’t really bother anybody.

Since as you said, nobody goes to the crags.

We’re talking about a REALLY rare spawnrate.

Like GOLDEN DUCK level spawnrate.

[radiant meadow]

then what's the point?

[ashen warren]

So the chance some poor sap would wander into the crags for no reason, somehow go against all the odds come across it without good equipment, and have it spawn would be low enough.

[radiant meadow]

and ravager in the crags sounds like player death almost instantly with the terrain and stuff

[ashen warren]

True...

[spark flax]

yeah, crag ravager sounds like a mess

i like the idea of it spawning on the outer thirds of the map

[ashen warren]

Yeah, lets go with somewhere else.

[radiant meadow]

bad enough on the surface where you actually can move around

[spark flax]

but like, have some hint as to when it's happening so you can teleport away or the like

[ashen warren]

Perhaps in the dungeon?

It is a creation of necromancy after all.

[spark flax]

like, the background slowly goes red, you get some kind of message like "The screams of the animated dead resound..."

dungeon ravager

THAT'S EVEN WORSE THAN CRAGS RAVAGER, C'MON DUDE

[ashen warren]

try fighting ravager in the dungeon

or in an enclosed space like that

...

Fuck

Okay, fine, last place. The corruption or crimson.

[radiant meadow]

Screams echo from the dungeon
more like Terrarians screaming in pain from freak abombinations

[ashen warren]

@ashen warren 99% sure it was mentioned in #calamity-mod-talk that it's actually a thing

On the surface.

[radiant meadow]

maybe

[ashen warren]

Plenty of space to fly around.

[radiant meadow]

that'd be a bit better

[ashen warren]

Fitting environment.

[digital sparrow]

I’m thinking the outer thirds of the map

[ashen warren]

Oh, I've been watching it pretty close since the astral thing got announced but I might have missed it

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren uh no

[ashen warren]

Okay, outer thirds of the map.

[cyan lagoon]

it has not been mentioned by fabsol whatsoever

[ashen warren]

unfortunate timing of messages then

[radiant meadow]

that's not fab

[digital sparrow]

Jeez that’s terrible timing

[ashen warren]

lul

i know it's not fab, but i glanced at roles saw dev and was like okay that's a thing then

[radiant meadow]

time to burn RoverdriveX alive for potential leaks

[ashen warren]

Wait, so we can turn the whole world into astral meteorite?...

Alright then, my b on that. Glad they thought of it though

WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?

[digital sparrow]

Why not

[ashen warren]

I would!

[radiant meadow]

well, ben said they liked the background

[ashen warren]

Because it looks pretty and I like it

But the ground would all be the same!!

[digital sparrow]

It looks good

[ashen warren]

the wood you can get too looks like it'd make for some really pretty builds

I want to turn my world that epic color

Bah you guys can enjoy making the world purple and pink.

[radiant meadow]

maybe astral wood armor will be better than astral armor

[ashen warren]

Thought we already had the hallow for that.

[marsh gust]

then cant fight provi on surface cause shes biome specific

[hollow shell]

I don't know whether to put a flag on that suggestion or
what

Should be deleted cuz it's already a thing

[digital sparrow]

Oh it’s confirmed

[radiant meadow]

Well cob said no so 🤷

[hollow shell]

Cob is dummy

[ashen warren]

OH MY GOD A DEV IS HERE

[hollow shell]

Hello

[ashen warren]

Me right now

[marsh gust]

a few days ago the dev role is higher than wiki admin guess wiki admin is higher now

[ashen warren]

We do not speak of that... that THING...

deleted

ezpz

[digital sparrow]

Rename the item to stack overflow because it crashes your game

[ashen warren]

I’m kinda curious how Yharim would react to the Lorde.

They just both spawn in and he looks up and stares at them for ten seconds straight before muttering under his breath:

[digital sparrow]

“Why”

[ashen warren]

“... What the fuck?...”

[radiant meadow]

hey, have you heard of that item that drops from BOULDOHRs?

[ashen warren]

Then the Lorde one-shots Yharim.

And the dark-souls death screen plays.

Uh what was the next spawn idea?

Oh yeah, Bumblebirb and Scourge.

[tulip parcel]

a suggestion got removed

[ashen warren]

Bumblebirb would probably be like the chickens from Legend of Zelda.

[tulip parcel]

muh?

[ashen warren]

(Which suggestion?)

[spark flax]

mini-bumblebirds appear as a miniboss in the jungle, their health bar instead becomes a timer and you have to kill it before it runs down or the birb proper spawns

[tulip parcel]

the uh

astral clentaminator

solution

[arctic wren]

So basically kill one bumblebirb

[ashen warren]

it's already a thing in the update

[arctic wren]

Get 10 demon ones

[tulip parcel]

right

thanks

[ashen warren]

bumblebirbs used to spawn naturally iirc

Basically what Chipbeam said.

[tulip parcel]

btw should I like

[ashen warren]

One bumblebirb spawns, you kill it.

don't recall why it was removed

[tulip parcel]

notify a staff member when a post hits 50

I don't know the procedure

[ashen warren]

IMMEDIATELY JUST GET SWARMED BY THE BUMBLEBIRB BOSS

[digital sparrow]

Doesn’t that already happen

[radiant meadow]

It used to be they spawned naturally only
and Dragon Eggs were consumable

and were quite rare and hit hard if afk

[arctic wren]

[digital sparrow]

I get the check like really fast when I hit 50

[ashen warren]

As for Scourge, he’d probably spawn once after you kill all his sentinels.

[radiant meadow]

All the non-consumable summons were once consumable except non consumable Profaned Core maybe

including eye of extinction and cosmic worms

[ashen warren]

After a day of time of course.

[digital sparrow]

I’d say Yharon is like one of the few bosses it makes sense to summon

[ashen warren]

That’s what I said.

[radiant meadow]

polter makes some sense

[ashen warren]

I don’t think any of the other bosses should have spawns.

[digital sparrow]

You don’t spawn polterghast

You kill a bunch of the spirits

[radiant meadow]

Necroplasmic Beacon is a thing btw

[ashen warren]

Astrum and Astragelledon Slime should stay the same.

[digital sparrow]

Oh

That’s like using the spirits death though

Because it’s made out of spirits

[radiant meadow]

therefore it makes sense

[digital sparrow]

Huh

[radiant meadow]

you're only helping my argument that polter's summon makes sense

[digital sparrow]

Well it does

I forgot the necroplasmic beacon existed

It’s way too expensive, never use it

[ashen warren]

you've never made auric?

[radiant meadow]

I always buy it from fargo's mutant

[digital sparrow]

I’m talking about the beacon specifically

[round falcon]

necroplasmic bacon tbh

[digital sparrow]

I use my phantoplasm for actual things

[radiant meadow]

polter requires more than one kill to get bloodflare btw

[ashen warren]

to fight polter again you need beacon

[spark flax]

you can't spawn polterghast past the first kill without using the beacon tho :/

[digital sparrow]

I skip bloodflare

[ashen warren]

to get auric you need bloodflare which requires more than one kill for polter

[digital sparrow]

And spawn it in when I need it

[ashen warren]

[digital sparrow]

i spawn a lot in

[round falcon]

lol noob

[spark flax]

beacon too expensive
sheets things in

Something ain't adding up here chief

[round falcon]

jk

[digital sparrow]

One run I was like “eh” and spawned in the entire Auric set

[radiant meadow]

I mean, a quick zerg can get you to the needed phantoplasm pretty quick

[digital sparrow]

I’m doing a no cheat run this time, exception is wormholes for MP

[radiant meadow]

eww, mp

[round falcon]

more like tiplayer tbh

[radiant meadow]

expect unsquashable bugs

[digital sparrow]

I only play MP at this point

I remember seeing “Yharon has awoken” and then just pure screaming from the mic

[spark flax]

i haven't had any bugs except for the one weird astrum deus thing throughout my entire MP playthrough

[digital sparrow]

this was death mode

Yeah same that’s my only glitch

Also SCals hitcap is strange in MP

[round falcon]

this is my message to my master,
incomprehensible screeching noises

[digital sparrow]

I’m considering this for my recorder remix of RotJD

[round falcon]

anyways bugs are listed in the pins of #bugs-read-pins

[spark flax]

this is my meeeessage toooo my maaaaaster

fucking goddamnit, holy shiiiiit

[digital sparrow]

I already have three of these abominations done, like 25 to go

[radiant meadow]

yes, in the pins of #bugs-read-pins there is a doc with all the known bugs

[tulip parcel]

uhh

should I notify a staff member if a post has hit 50?

[digital sparrow]

How long has it been

[tulip parcel]

since it hit that number, or the original post?

[digital sparrow]

Since

[tulip parcel]

well the post was made seven hours ago, and it hit 50 about an hour ago

[round falcon]

No. They'll see it.

[tulip parcel]

okay thanks

[lean moat]

..So, wait, ANY post that hits 50 gets shown?

....Mine is almost halfway there.

YEET.

My crappy idea might get shown

[digital sparrow]

Mine I have a feeling actually made it into the game, so don’t lose hope

[shadow prism]

check pins for more explanation

[radiant meadow]

any post that regards to the game

if a server suggestion reaches 50 stars, it doesn't get sent to dev server

[digital sparrow]

How many stars does it take then?

[radiant meadow]

50

[ashen warren]

Hey uh... Is DM Dokuro in this server?...

[lean moat]

Mine was a game suggestion, tho

[digital sparrow]

Uh

[ashen warren]

no

[radiant meadow]

no

[ashen warren]

Oh.

[digital sparrow]

Technically but no

[tulip parcel]

nope he left

[digital sparrow]

Oh

[ashen warren]

I probably would have passed out with excitement if he was here.

[digital sparrow]

i can imagine why

[quiet abyss]

He only joined back in briefly to made the announcement before leaving

[hollow wedge]

i was scrolling up thru suggestions and i saw "cute girl" and be like ._.

[ashen warren]

I can understand why he left.

[digital sparrow]

I mean I don’t blame him, probably scarred from the SCal cult

[ashen warren]

All the Supreme Calamitas worshippers.

[quiet abyss]

Not just those

[ashen warren]

You NEVER rush art.

Unless art takes around five years.

[digital sparrow]

I still think the April fools joke should have been the same but the title is “scal theme”

[ashen warren]

Then you gently poke it to see if it’s alive.

[sleek wigeon]

Yes

tbh

[quiet abyss]

It’s also all the people tagging and annoying him about calamity tracks afaik

As in, keep asking him about updates

[sleek wigeon]

I rarely see chippy being pinged

I doubt dm would

[hollow wedge]

i see chippy being tagged.. 3 times

[ashen warren]

@ chippy

Lol you thought

[quiet abyss]

[hollow wedge]

one by ozza tho so it doesnt count xd

[sleek wigeon]

Dont at at chippy ya hecks

he good boi

[tulip parcel]

is he a better boi than slippy

[ashen warren]

Chippy the chipmunk

[hollow wedge]

just mostly tagging to give suggestions thru discord instead of youtube comments

[ashen warren]

Chippy got the stiffy uh

[lean moat]

Yup, blame the "cute girl" part on me

[hollow wedge]

[lean moat]

i'm bad at describing stuff so

[tulip parcel]

honestly

a lore PC like that

I think you should have them look like deckard cain

[lean moat]

...Deckard...Cain?

[tulip parcel]

to honor the now desecrated corpse of diablo

[radiant meadow]

a lore Personal Computer?

[lean moat]

...OH.

[tulip parcel]

yeah that deckard cain

[lean moat]

...I WAS THINKING IT'D EITHER BE QT OR AN OLD GUY BUT

[tulip parcel]

...deckard cain -is- an old guy

[hollow wedge]

NPC lmao

[lean moat]

The more i thought of it, the more ideas i had for if it was a lady like that

[ashen warren]

Are some of the emojis here from actual Calamity art? Like does the creator have a art blog or something I can follow?

[lean moat]

but an angry old man would work too

And

[ashen warren]

I’d love to see his stuff.

[lean moat]

[radiant meadow]

there's the art server

[lean moat]

..this one is...i think

Yeah

[tulip parcel]

that's the brimstone elemental

[ashen warren]

Where

[radiant meadow]

it's in #rules and not #other-discords

[tulip parcel]

[digital sparrow]

[tulip parcel]

[radiant meadow]

Let's not emoji spam please

[spark flax]

okay, but considering the lore npc idea, there's an obvious choice.
Calamitas NPC

[digital sparrow]

oh yes

[lean moat]

...

[digital sparrow]

Only one to make sense lore wise

[radiant meadow]

Calamitas is already planned

[tulip parcel]

calamitas would be a cute NPC

[lean moat]

...EH WHAT-

[digital sparrow]

oh no

[tulip parcel]

yes

make calamitas a cute girl

like uh

[lean moat]

.....Eeexxxcuse me while i edit that suggestion...

[hollow wedge]

calamitas is a witch

[tulip parcel]

LADY MARIA

YES

[digital sparrow]

god is typing

[spark flax]

i just wanna be able to befriend calamitas, devs, please give me this one thing

[hollow wedge]

fab alrdy has an idea of how calamitas will look like

[tulip parcel]

Turn calamitas into a cute girl

[digital sparrow]

Is it like the art in Dokuros video

[tulip parcel]

to befriend and give headpats

fund it

[hollow wedge]

nah its not

[spark flax]

im hype to see what fab ends up making

[hollow wedge]

calamitas NPC incoming

[lean moat]

We need a cute calamitas girl npc

...wait what it's confirmed?

[hollow wedge]

🤷

[spark flax]

apparently?

[hollow wedge]

i heard rumours

[spark flax]

i will hold out hope

[hollow wedge]

oh btw, you dont even need the devs to make the npc look cute, someone out there will make an anime iteration LMAO sooner or later

[lean moat]

..True

...and it'd be me--

[hollow wedge]

I'm 100% sure 😂

[lean moat]

A kuudere smart grill npc who knows stuff

she'd be anime-d faster than an actual in production anime

[digital sparrow]

by the pope

[spark flax]

we've already had plenty of people in art server come up with their own interpretations of human scal

i am 100% sure it will fucking EXPLODE in people drawing it once an official design is released

[gusty geode]

mr stark I like how it lowers HP in exchange for MP
Haven't seen anything attempt that before

[lean moat]

Yup

it'll be our own bowsette

..and if my rei ayanami-esque lady gets made...

...oh god, i cant begin to imagine the fanart of that-

...thirty four.

[digital sparrow]

Oh

No

[lean moat]

i assume this server is semi pg so i wont explain but

...i know people would go crazy-

[tulip parcel]

Okay this is getting off topic

so I'm gonna bring it back

[hollow wedge]

has been off topic for a while

[lean moat]

Yea sorry bout that

[spark flax]

topic? what's a topic?

[tulip parcel]

I'm thinking about throwing a suggestion up

but I want some input on it

[lean moat]

Hm?

[spark flax]

i'd be more than happy to give input~

[lean moat]

Noni noni

[digital sparrow]

Ok sure

[spark flax]

it's what i do here after all

[hollow wedge]

#general-talk has no topic

[tulip parcel]

Okay so

[digital sparrow]

Yeah but you can’t post images there

[tulip parcel]

Pre-Hardmode shotgun

And while you hold it

You can double jump

[digital sparrow]

Isn’t that just a boomstick and a cloud bottle

Sounds interesting though

[spark flax]

is the reasoning that you shoot at the ground and it boosts you?

[tulip parcel]

Yes

[digital sparrow]

Do it with a launcher

[spark flax]

because if so that'd probably continue to be useful throughout the entire game

[tulip parcel]

Force-of-Nature

[digital sparrow]

Now that would be a great reference and cool

[spark flax]

given that it's basically an upward dash without using an inventory slot

[digital sparrow]

The “rocket jump”

[tulip parcel]

No see

Rockets need to hit the ground

[digital sparrow]

They can shoot you up if you have a big enough one

[tulip parcel]

And you can’t buy rockets til Hardmode

But you can buy bullets

[digital sparrow]

Upgrade

[tulip parcel]

I’ll put it to pen in a bit

[digital sparrow]

I’m just mostly happy that my suggestion I made a while ago is kinda in the pic Fab posted

[tulip parcel]

What’s that

[digital sparrow]

I made a suggestion called the Stardragon

And the Voidragon looks very similar

[lean moat]

ooooo, congrat-

..I wonder if rei loremaster wife will get in... 🤔

...hopefully

i pray she will...i'm actually proud as hell-

[digital sparrow]

That one seems interesting because I like extra lore

[worn bay]

We do definitely need an Exo-gun. Is that already a planned thing?

[lean moat]

Same

...Exo...gun?

[worn bay]

exoblade-tier gun

[lean moat]

...Nani the heck is that?

[radiant meadow]

idk, but several suggestions have been sent to the dev server

[worn bay]

there's only an exoblade-tier bow

for ranged bois

[radiant meadow]

there's photoviscerator

[lean moat]

...

...one more to halfway to 50 for my rei wife

cmon cmon cmooonnnn

[tulip parcel]

Exoblade is the highest tier melee weapon

Just FYI

[lean moat]

...I see

[digital sparrow]

So all the other ones are called “Exo-“ because of that

[worn bay]

isnt photovis a flamethrower?

[radiant meadow]

ark of the cosmos is better

[digital sparrow]

Yeah

[radiant meadow]

yes

[spark flax]

ye, Exo-tier weapons are also called Auric tier weapons sometimes

Exoblade, Ark of the Cosmos, Heavenly Gale, Photoviscerator, Vivid Clarity, Subsuming Vortex, Cosmic Immaterializer, Celestus

[radiant meadow]

auric tier is probably the better name tbh

[lean moat]

...Tbh, why does "heavenly gale" sound like a naruto jutsu name

WIND STYLE HEAVENLY GALE

[radiant meadow]

idk, but it's like ranger's only option for direct dmg to scal iirc

[alpine garnet]

yo we need a mod in here

[radiant meadow]

halibut for hearts and chicken cannon for seeker circle

[alpine garnet]

nvm

[dull kite]

@bleak prairie warned for meme suggestion

[lean moat]

@bleak prairie "No joke suggestions"

[dull kite]

@lean moat dont minimod

[lean moat]

Sorry --

[dull kite]

np

[lean moat]

...it bugs me a bunch when people do that and i feel the need to yell at them

[worn bay]

same

[lean moat]

even tho im in no place to and probably just being annoying when i do oof--

[worn bay]

i would've done the same had i not had this place muted

[hollow shell]

But I minimod all the time 🤔

[radiant meadow]

but you have roles

[dull kite]

I think it's fine to go like "hey, put more effort in that suggestion" or "hey don't talk in there" If it's a meme suggestion or it gets excessive, you should ping staff

[lean moat]

And i'm just a random idiot who only truly joined the server today

so i have no place to do anything

[hollow shell]

More colors = More power

[tulip parcel]

But sir

White is all colors combined

[lean moat]

I'll try to notify mods of people being like that, but i also wont minimod--

i'll TRY not to, at least...

I like your thinking, vorbis

[digital sparrow]

So on the inside everybody has a part of white/no role in them

[dull kite]

alright guys, time to get back ontopic

[lean moat]

Right, sorry

buildmonger, that thing you suggested would be friggin scary

[hollow shell]

That Twins suggestion
sounds really really hard to program
but also pretty cool

[lean moat]

I CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BALL blares as you get murdered by a twin swinging around

[hollow shell]

A Twin corpse, mind you

[lean moat]

Yup

...Also, i need the opinion of people who actually know what they're doing

...is my loremaster lady suggestion any good0

[tulip parcel]

Actually no

Instead of swinging like a wrecking ball

It should swing like...

[digital sparrow]

Maybe the dead twin falls to the ground and explodes

After you fully kill it

[tulip parcel]

This.

[hollow wedge]

maybe it ressurects into the true twins

[lean moat]

...OOoooo-

[digital sparrow]

That’s just the supreme cal brothers

That should be a lore thing tbh

[hollow wedge]

tru..

[sleek wigeon]

That twings suggestion is 😓

[digital sparrow]

Draedon built the twins based off SCals brothers

[sleek wigeon]

Uh

rainbow gun does have an upgrade

ya dummy

[tulip parcel]

yeah

cosmic rainbow

[digital sparrow]

The Last Prism

[tulip parcel]

I actually made a suggestion to combine those two

[sleek wigeon]

Cosmic Rainbow

[tulip parcel]

since they're both rainbows

[sleek wigeon]

I just realized that stupid

fucking pun

[digital sparrow]

The Actually Last Prism, for Real This Time

[radiant meadow]

It rains cosmic rainbows from the sky

[tulip parcel]

"Okay guys this is the FINAL PRISM"

[hollow shell]

@lean moat, your Loremaster suggestion is perhaps far more extensive than it needed to be
Being concise would probably be more beneficial than trying to fit as much detail as possible
But you did indeed put a lot of effort into it, it's well-done

[sleek wigeon]

ULTIMATE PRISM

[tulip parcel]

But uh

since it already hit 50...

Sors is it okay if I just post a screencap of it

like in this chat

[radiant meadow]

the only biome chest w/o an upgrade is staff of the frost hydra but energy staff is basically the same thing but better in every way

[tulip parcel]

I just wanna get the text of it across

aaah whatever I'll just copy paste

Dark Moon
Post-Moonlord Magic Weapon
Crafted using Last Prism + Cosmic Rainbow + Post Moonlord Materials (either uelibloom and divine geode or three dark plasma, with power scaled accordingly to what's needed to craft it.)

A black prism, with a swirling vortex visible inside while firing. While the Last Prism fires from a point on the triangle, the Dark Moon Prism would fire from a side.

Functionally, the Dark Moon is the inverse of the Last Prism, at least initially. The beam starts as the "fully charged" massive white laser, then splits off into seven differently colored beams. After it finishes its cycle, a new massive beam forms in the center. This would add 50% to the mana cost. To elaborate, this would make the mana per second cost of the Last Prism go from 72 per second to 108 per second. In exchange for this increase of cost, the new white beam fires while the multicolored laser barrage persists.

This process repeats, splitting the beams and creating a new one in the center, mounting a higher and higher mana cost to maintain the beams being created. Seven, then fourteen, then twenty one. As long as the user can maintain the manacost, more heavy beams will be created, which will split to join the flurry of smaller beams.

the idea was to focus more on colors rather than combining them

[digital sparrow]

Ooh it’s a reference to pink Floyd

[sleek wigeon]

im sure rover buddy knows it got 50 stars

its not that far up

[frosty kindle]

didn't you already post this?

[hollow shell]

Yeah I just saw it

[tulip parcel]

nono I wanted to talk about it

that's all

[frosty kindle]

just mention the name and we'll find the suggestion easily

[radiant meadow]

so like yharim's crystal but one tier earlier?

[tulip parcel]

there's two in total

[sleek wigeon]

Not like yharims crystal at all

[tulip parcel]

Dark Moon and Happy Lucky Ore Lottery Gachapon

search those two

[digital sparrow]

Except for the fact they are death triangles

[sleek wigeon]

dude

vorbis

[tulip parcel]

he said mention the name

[sleek wigeon]

Dont worry about your suggestions being sent

[tulip parcel]

sorry

I'm just antsy I guess

[sleek wigeon]

dont be

rover is the good person, he wouldnt miss something like this

[lean moat]

@hollow shell Sorry if I shouldn't ping you (i'll stop if you want me to) but...thank you-

I got WAYYYY too into writing about it, and i mighta went a bit overboard with it

which explains why it's so long--

I'm sorry if it isnt as high quality as it could have been because i got too ambitious

[frosty kindle]

no worries, marie

[lean moat]

I do a lot of writing and stuff (I do anime rps with my boyfriend) and when i try to think of characters, i go way too far

...so when i could have simply made a basic npc description

i made it as if i was writing an entire character

and because of that it probably ended up being kinda stupid--

[spark flax]

big mood, speaking as a DM that's run several tabletop campaigns
but ye don't worry about it

[tulip parcel]

oh what's your favorite system?

[spark flax]

any Powered by the Apocalypse systems

my current ongoing campaign, Terminus, runs off Monster of the Week

[tulip parcel]

mine's this eastern one called "kamigakari", getting a western print soon

[spark flax]

oooh, neat

hm. question, which would you guys rather see:

-an improved repost of my Eye of the Sentinels true damage idea, or
-a summon 'weapon' that acts like a non-summon attacking weapon but uses up summon slots while you have it out?

as someone who has had both myself and my friends who also play summon feel like they can't do much outside of just dodging while using the class, i really want to try and come up with a good idea to help fill that niche

(i can repost the Eye of the Sentinels here for y'all to check if you want)

[lean moat]

....Uhhhhh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tulip parcel]

You know

[lean moat]

...Tbh i'm still a retard when it comes to everything here

[tulip parcel]

This is pretty weeby

[lean moat]

What's pretty weeby?

[tulip parcel]

but a summon weapon I would consider you trying to emulate...

I mean if it's going to be taking up a summon slot

[lean moat]

?

[spark flax]

go on...

[spark flax]

...i don't watch dragon ball, BUT this has given me an idea

[lean moat]

..

GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMME GIMEEEEE---

I LIKE YOUR THINKING, VORBIS-!

[spark flax]

hey, using tildes is my endearing character trait too~!

okay, i'm writing the thing

[tulip parcel]

Sounds good

[lean moat]

...tildes?

whats tildes

..oh

the

[tulip parcel]

~

[lean moat]

squiggly thingy

~

...i do that a lot

Like, i do this if im excited~!

[tulip parcel]

You should know what that is if you do it

[lean moat]

~~squiggly~

I never know the name of those symbols i just use them

And

vorbis

you dont need to worry about being too weeby

...you just get free brownie points from me, an absolute weeb--

[hollow wedge]

[worn bay]

I LOVE ZAMASU

Anything similar to him has my star

[lean moat]

something something praise unto me something something i dont know the line

all hail zamasu

[tulip parcel]

goku black was my favorite arc of super

[lean moat]

...This mod needs more animu

[tulip parcel]

really great writing

[worn bay]

N I N G E N

The Ningenslayer

[lean moat]

...I havent even seen dragon ball much tbh but i still love it

N I N G E N!

[spark flax]

you're all fucking weebs

[lean moat]

...Is that a bad thing?

[spark flax]

I'll let you decide your own answer on that.

[lean moat]

Then i say it isnt a bad thing

[tulip parcel]

honestly being a weeb is only bad if you make it a problem

[lean moat]

I am weeb trash and proud

^^

i just like anime but i'm not a weebweeb

[hollow shell]

uhhh

[lean moat]

there's a difference between the jokingly calling yourself a weeb cause you like anime

[hollow wedge]

gonna minimod a bit erhm

[lean moat]

and being a "weeb"

And yeaaahhh we got way off topic--

[worn bay]

Wait that reminds me of a big issue with the mod that needs fixing IMMEDIATELY
There aren't any jojo references in calamity afaik

[spark flax]

i'm way ahead of you

search up Fists of Platinum in suggestions chat

[lean moat]

...Let's change that.

[spark flax]

you guys do know that there was a guy here several weeks back who CONSTANTLY spammed jojo suggestions, right?

like literally like 5 per day

and so i decided to make a really good one and it got sent to dev server

[lean moat]

....I approve of tht guy, if the suggestons are good

...And, what suggestion?

[spark flax]

Please, spare this Lily.
Don't spam references for reference's sake.
Just come up with one REALLY GOOD reference.

[lean moat]

Right, right

[spark flax]

hold up i'll go get it for you

[lean moat]

I love anime references but we dont need to force em

...i say as my one suggestion was blatantly based off of rei ayanami

[spark flax]

Fists of Platinum
Summons a barrage of spectral punches on enemy hits
Successful hits buff defense for a short time

What It Does: A Fetid Baghnahks-type claw weapon that has low range but swings incredibly quickly. On enemy contact, a barrage of short-range projectiles would rapidly appear at the cursor's location, dealing heavy additional damage. In addition, dealing damage with it temporarily gives the buff Platinum Shroud, which increases defense by 50 while active.

How It's Acquired: 1 Mantis Claws + 5 Gold/Platinum Bars + 10 Luminite Bars + 5 Galactica Singularities at an Ancient Manipulator.

Why It Should Be Added: Because claws are a criminally underappreciated weapon type: there's only one like it in vanilla terraria (not including the Halloween-exclusive, pre-hardmode Bladed Glove) and Calamity only adds three, as far as I'm aware. Every melee user as far as I know have enjoyed using the Fetid Baghnahks to rip things apart, and why shouldn't post-Moon Lord get in on the fun? Plus, it's True Melee, which gives them more viable options to work with. The defense buff makes it more viable, whether facetanking while using Rage/Adrenaline to do big damage, or hitting the enemy with it solely for the buff (akin to the Tyrant's Ultisword series's buff).
Also because everyone keeps making jojo references in suggestions and so I figure if I make a weapon that actually has reason to be in the game instead of just being a reference for reference sake it might put that to an end.

[lean moat]

...I love it--

[tulip parcel]

not including fallen stars

[worn bay]

I LOVE IT

[lean moat]

please tell me it'll be added PLEASE tell me

[tulip parcel]

Are you even trying

[spark flax]

it got 60 likes

i had to make the recipe concise

[worn bay]

I'd also love to be able to craft it into a summon since i play summoner

[spark flax]

just use Rod of Accord

[worn bay]

Rod of Accord?

[spark flax]

Rod of Accord
Harmonic duplication
Click to spawn a doppelganger in the direction you're facing for a few seconds
While active, all weapons will be swung from the doppelganger instead

What It Does: Upon using the Rod, a spectral copy of your character will appear either about 10 blocks directly to the left or right of the player, depending on which way you faced. The doppelganger remains active for about five seconds (the Rod itself has a cooldown upon being used too, about 15 seconds or so) and does not take damage. While active, any weapons that you would use or swing instead trigger from the Doppelganger instead.

How It's Made: 1 Rod of Discord + 1 Magic Mirror/Ice Mirror + 3 Cores of Calamity

Why it should be added: True Melee is an incredibly fun archetype. It's also really hard to use without getting yourself killed, and most boss strategy with it involves waiting until Adrenaline is full and then facetanking until either you or the enemy dies.

Enter the RoD's shitty little cousin, the Rod of Accord, which lets you hit enemies with those true melee weapons while keeping you clear. Now admittedly True Melee isn't the only use for this, you can use it to fire through walls and keep a bit more distance with short range weapons, but the main use is being able to let loose with your true melee swords while remaining SLIGHTLY further away from whatever boss you're trying to kill.

another suggestion i made

got 80 likes

[lean moat]

"crappy little cousin"

[spark flax]

it wasn't made on purpose to fill the role, but using it with the Fists of Platinum BASICALLY gives you your own punching Stand

[hollow wedge]

oh god that'll be so

annoying

[spark flax]

so if both of them get in...

[lean moat]

Oraoraoraoraoraora

[hollow wedge]

to use

[worn bay]

I like it a lot

[lean moat]

That'd be super good if used properly

[tulip parcel]

I haven't watched part five yet

I should get on that when I can

[lean moat]

You need to--

[spark flax]

also like 75% of my suggestions got sent to dev server so it's pretty likely that at least ONE of my ideas will be added, hopefully

[lean moat]

i watch every episode as it comes out with my brother

...We can talk about jojo in #general-talk if we want to change the subject but

And...holy moly, i wish i had enough skills to have that many get sent

i doubt even my loremaster'll get sent oof-

[spark flax]

also one of my biggest OC settings is a jojo sort-of-fanfic: completely different setting and world but Stands still exist

i've been working on it for like two years now its good

but yeah BACK ON TOPIC, GONNA GO WORK MORE ON THAT SUMMON WEAPON IDEA

That's the Lilith Seal of Quaaaality~!

[lean moat]

OK HAVE FUN MY CHILD

SEAL OF QUALITY

[tulip parcel]

I'm gonna put that Force-of-Nature idea to pen as well

a ranged weapon with lategame utility

probably a fun time

[hollow wedge]

force of nature.. tf2 reference im guessing

[tulip parcel]

sure is some kind of nature

wait no

nonono screw the force of nature I know what I'll write

What do you guys think

of a melee weapon end game chainsaw

that also fires shotgun blasts intermittently

[lean moat]

Yeaaaa booooiiii

[spark flax]

that sounds stupid.
i love it.

[tulip parcel]

double barrel, so two successive shots

[lean moat]

DOUBLE YEAAAAA BOOOOIIIII

[worn bay]

👀

[tulip parcel]

sounds pretty groovy

[lean moat]

Also, Lilith, Pluto, Vorbis

may i send the three of you friend requests

[spark flax]

go ahead~!

i'm always happy to make new friends ❤

[lean moat]

Yeetus

[tulip parcel]

sure

Now the question is

gears of war, or evil dead?

[lean moat]

...Um...

[tulip parcel]

I want evil dead

but

that's just me

[spark flax]

evil dead

[radiant meadow]

defense softcap at 250? 250 defense isn't getting you anywhere

especially with 1500 base dmg in death for the 1st bullet hell

[digital sparrow]

Oh dear lord that is high
But that is base damage

[tulip parcel]

alright, I'll put this to pen then

[steel raptor]

but consider the damage reduction statistic

[ashen warren]

defense != damage reduction

[radiant meadow]

damage reduction is already softcaped

[steel raptor]

I know

[digital sparrow]

Why not let me stack stupid amounts of defense

Just cap it for nohits or stuff like that

[sleek wigeon]

Defense soft cap?

But... wha?

[radiant meadow]

and 7 ataraxias was not enough to proc scal's anticheese of instakill at less than 100 dmg

[sleek wigeon]

Defense is already garbo

It doesnt need a soft cap

[steel raptor]

that's my suggestion now that the hit counter is getting removed

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah its dumb since defense is garbage anyhow

[heady comet]

What a big brain

[spark flax]

DR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. defense

[sleek wigeon]

Lets nerf an undervalued mechanic hur dur

[heady comet]

Nerfing shit because uhhhh

Fab does that alot so he must like doing it

[spark flax]

sometimes i think that a lot of people here want to nerf things and buff random things as well for no good reason

[heady comet]

^

[ashen warren]

nerf early hm thrower, it's obviously the reason it's good post ml

[spark flax]

it's very strange

[radiant meadow]

exactly how much def would you need to proc scal's anticheese in death's first bullet hell assuming you hit 30% dr

[tulip parcel]

hmm

[radiant meadow]

+auric's extra 10%

[tulip parcel]

okay my idea for this weapon is that using the chainsaw you get free shotgun blasts right

[sleek wigeon]

DR is already pretty much hard capped at 33%

[tulip parcel]

what should I name that

[sleek wigeon]

Technically a soft cap but anything beyond 33% is 10% effective

[tulip parcel]

to both keep with the theme as well as the reference

[spark flax]

Profaned Halo
Purify your foes
Consumes a summon slot while held
Right click to consume two more and overcharge this weapon

Appearance: While the weapon is held, a circular halo with the Profaned color scheme and a flame within it appears behind your character (akin to the set effect appearance of the Forbidden armor). Using the overcharge function makes it instead turn pure white and glow around the player.

What It Does: Slow use time, fires homing flares that spit out more fires (akin to Providence's attacks) as it moves and persist for some time. Inflicts Holy Flames and Ichor on hit. Right-clicking gives the user the Profaned Overcharge buff for some time (20 seconds?), which increases their movement speed and heavily increases damage (and to a lesser degree firing speed) of the weapon.

How It's Made: Lunic Eye + 15 Unholy Essence + 5 Divine Geode @ Ancient Manipulator

Why it should be added: The Summoner class is unfortunately lacking in ways to fight directly: the Golden Gun sucks and the Lunic Eye's damage output rapidly becomes lacking. Adding a weapon that lets them fight directly would go miles towards making the class more fun and interactive, and making it use up summon slots would make it a bit more of a risk.

[heady comet]

Mr shapiro you dumbass

You are the enemy

[spark flax]

the profaned halo idea is HERE, all feedback super welcomed because i want to know how i could make it better

[lean moat]

YES PLEASE

I assume that's the zamasu thingymajiggy

[ashen warren]

Apple 200k constant DPS on scal is too much

I'm sorry

[worn bay]

I like that a lot, though I'm not sure if it really needs to take a summon slot

[tulip parcel]

Why does it inflict ichor?

[ashen warren]

I must do this for the good of the class

[sleek wigeon]

How does.... velocity increase damage?

im confused?

[ashen warren]

Projectiles move faster?

[heady comet]

White name

[sleek wigeon]

That doesnt increase dps

[ashen warren]

Yes it does

[sleek wigeon]

You still shoot the same amount of stuff in the same amount of time?

[ashen warren]

No

[sleek wigeon]

So hows it a damage boost?

[ashen warren]

Look at stuff like scourge

Also celestus gets thrown faster

[radiant meadow]

is there even a way to boost throwing velocity besides modifier and eldritch?

[ashen warren]

Since it's a bokmerang

Boomerang

[radiant meadow]

does eldritch even do that?
it's gone from the wiki

[spark flax]

?????????????????????????????

[lean moat]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[ashen warren]

Yes statis belts

[spark flax]

like so few things increase throwing velocity anyways

[ashen warren]

Nanotech

[lean moat]

I'm confused

[sleek wigeon]

I dont get it. how does it increase dps?

[steel raptor]

Bullet hell 1 damage is going from 900 to 1500 in death mode?

[radiant meadow]

oh yeah, those don't just boost dmg and crit

[sleek wigeon]

Explain it like im 5

[ashen warren]

If the boomerang moves faster you can throw it more

[radiant meadow]

It means baby scourges can catch up to enemies faster?

[lean moat]

And throwing it faster = more damage

[ashen warren]

If the scourge balls move faster, they hit more often

[spark flax]

celestus doesn't return

[sleek wigeon]

But you can inf throw celestus anyhow? and scourges isnt a boomerang?

[spark flax]

it's not limited by how fast it can go

just by how fast you can inf throw

[ashen warren]

Celestus does return

What are you talking about

[heady comet]

Throwing velocity = use time?

[radiant meadow]

scourge is a javelin

[sleek wigeon]

It returns but its still an inf throw

[ashen warren]

Yes

[steel raptor]

velocity is how fast the weapon is moving, NOT how often it is being thrown (use time)

[sleek wigeon]

You can throw it an infinite number of times

[spark flax]

^

[ashen warren]

And it moves back and forth faster

[sleek wigeon]

So?

[ashen warren]

With higher velocity

[sleek wigeon]

Its still the same amount of projectiles

[ashen warren]

So it hits the boss more

[sleek wigeon]

at the same damage

in the same time

[heady comet]

^

[ashen warren]

Also created more nanotechs

I don't think

[sleek wigeon]

Wouldnt it create less nanotechs?

[ashen warren]

No

[sleek wigeon]

Since less airtime?

[ashen warren]

If it's moving faster it hits the boss more times

I'll do a test for you

Lemme record it

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah nanotech is based on the amount of frames projectiles spend in the air

So faster velocity means less nanotech projectiles

[spark flax]

yup

[ashen warren]

Your not understanding

I'll get a test up

[sleek wigeon]

You arent explaining it good

[ashen warren]

Ik

I'm not good at that

That's why I'm getting a video

[worn bay]

It seems pretty clear to me

[sleek wigeon]

Apple, does anything this madman say have merit?

[spark flax]

Doubt.

[heady comet]

How about you nerf scourge rather than nerfing the entire accessory

[worn bay]

Cmon guys no need to be rude abt it

[sleek wigeon]

I legitimately dont understand

[worn bay]

that's fine but "does anything this madman say have merit" is a little overboard

[ashen warren]

Celestus does 50k less DPS when you remove 15% velocity

I'll upload now

This is on a single super dummy

[sleek wigeon]

wha?

Wheres the 15% velocity coming from?

[ashen warren]

Actually that's wrong I used wrong accessory smh

[spark flax]

lmao yeah thought so

use Fossil Helmet to test

since it gives 20% velocity without any other buffs

[sleek wigeon]

^

[spark flax]

has anyone really been so far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like, btw?

[tulip parcel]

just uh

[lean moat]

.....?????????????????

[tulip parcel]

gonna break this up for a second

Evil Shred
"Groovy."
Post-Moonlord Weapon
Butcher's Chainsaw + Boomstick + (Post-Providence crafting materials. Perhaps bloodstone cores?)
Effectively combining a shotgun with a melee weapon, the Evil Shred is an alternate spin to the "projectile sword" archetype. When in use, the chainsaw appears in front of the player's sprite, and a shotgun appears behind the player's sprite. Both follow the player's cursor when firing.

The chainsaw deals extreme damage to targets. Independent of the chainsaw, the shotgun intermittently fires two spreads of eight bullets in a tight pattern, "reloading" second before firing again. No bullets are spent from the shotgun blasts. All damage dealt by the Evil Shred is Melee.

How does this look?

[spark flax]

i like it

[lean moat]

Me likey

[spark flax]

also, re. the Profaned Halo

do you guys think it should use summon slots or no

[sleek wigeon]

Looks good

[tulip parcel]

uhhh

hmm

[lean moat]

Um

...not sure

[worn bay]

Nah

[lean moat]

It could be an accessory, or a summoning item

[spark flax]

i might go with not using summon slots but having the overcharge use them

[tulip parcel]

no it's definitely an active weapon

[worn bay]

Seems like a pretty significant nerf for it to take up a slot

[ashen warren]

Hmm seems like celestial isn't really too affected

Scourge definitely is though

And that's really throwings main issue

[sleek wigeon]

Hows scourge affected?

I still dont understand

[tulip parcel]

Lilith

[sleek wigeon]

Only thing that should be affected is accuracy

[tulip parcel]

on the halo

[ashen warren]

Faster scourge projectiles home in faster

And less miss

[sleek wigeon]

So Its only accuracy

[tulip parcel]

It could take up a slot but it'd have to be an accessory to do that

[sleek wigeon]

and not more dps

[ashen warren]

Well accuracy means dps

[sleek wigeon]

like youve been claiming this entire damn time

[spark flax]

o

[tulip parcel]

Also if you do that

[spark flax]

well i want it to be a weapon so

[tulip parcel]

Make it count as wings

[ashen warren]

No I said it increased dps

[sleek wigeon]

Yes

[ashen warren]

Which accuracy does do

[sleek wigeon]

No

[ashen warren]

Just indirectly

[tulip parcel]

if you want it to be a weapon then it shouldn't take a slot

[spark flax]

i might just remove the overcharge function entirely and make it just a weapon that does summon damage

[tulip parcel]

since you have to actively use it

[ashen warren]

Which is what I said velocity did

[tulip parcel]

don't make it summon damage just make it "damage"

[sleek wigeon]

No, you did not say that at all

[tulip parcel]

it uses the lunic eye after all

[ashen warren]

Yes I did

[sleek wigeon]

Also why cant i star stuff?

[tulip parcel]

you're not a cool dude

apparently

[sleek wigeon]

Wiki editors had emote privs just like

an hour ago

[tulip parcel]

try gettin in touch with a mod I guess

🤷

[sleek wigeon]

yo @sinful violet

my good friend buddy

whats going on?

[ashen warren]

my suggestion says because its faster it gets around the cap

i definitely explained it really poorly though

but scourge with high velocity is still way too good so i still think this should be a thing

[sleek wigeon]

just nerf scourge instead of nerfing a mechanic?

[tulip parcel]

nerf the game

[ashen warren]

But scourge without insane velocity is fine

[tulip parcel]

nerf the planet

[sleek wigeon]

Like just because one weapon is OP with a mechanic doesnt mean the mechanic should be nerfed

[sinful violet]

Mmm

I dunno actually

I’ll bring it up

[tulip parcel]

you should probably give him the uh

[spark flax]

okay okay so

[tulip parcel]

the reaction role

just to patch the hole for now

[ashen warren]

I thought velocity might speed up how fast it gets thrown but apparently not

[spark flax]

i'm gonna post the Profaned Halo and Eye of the Sentinels side by side

[tulip parcel]

cool dude was it

[sinful violet]

Yeah, I can’t atm

[spark flax]

in here

[sinful violet]

Fab strikes down any who give cool dude just for small stuff

[spark flax]

so could you guys tell me which sounds like a better weapon idea to you?

[ashen warren]

Idk though throwing post ML needs a Nerf this isn't the way to do it though

[tulip parcel]

muh

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah, and i doubt im the type fab would give cooldude too

[tulip parcel]

not even to give someone a privilege they already had?

alright

[sinful violet]

Sarg messed with perms earlier today so we had to fiddle with some other stuff too

[tulip parcel]

oh, mod drama

[sinful violet]

I’ll let em know

Nah

[sleek wigeon]

Cooldude would also give me access to 3 other channels, and image perms in general

[sinful violet]

Just a few mixups because discord perms stinky

[sleek wigeon]

So it wouldnt be just getting perms i already had

[tulip parcel]

ah okay

good to see things are on the level then

[sinful violet]

Anyhow, I’ll let them know

Suggestions stuff please

[frosty kindle]

discord perms and channel overrides are hard to set up, but are useful if set up correctly, kind of like code in a game

[spark flax]

Profaned Halo
Purify your foes
Projectile damage is multiplied by all of your damage bonuses

Appearance: While the weapon is held, a circular halo with the Profaned color scheme and a flame within it appears behind your character (akin to the set effect appearance of the Forbidden armor).

What It Does: Slow use time, fires homing flares that spit out more fires (akin to Providence's attacks) as it moves and persist for some time. Inflicts Holy Flames on hit. The projectiles deal true damage multiplied by any damage bonuses, and thus do not

How It's Made: Lunic Eye + 15 Unholy Essence + 5 Divine Geode @ Ancient Manipulator

Why it should be added: The Summoner class is unfortunately lacking in ways to fight directly: the Golden Gun sucks and the Lunic Eye's damage output rapidly becomes lacking. Adding a weapon that lets them fight directly would go miles towards making the class more fun and interactive.

Eye of the Sentinels
Stare into the void
Fires dark plasma blasts that cripple enemy defense
Projectile damage is multiplied by all of your damage bonuses

What It Does: Fires three tiny, fast-moving black orbs per shot: one straight forward and two at a slight spread away from that. The projectiles move fast and have very slight homing, and cause Ichor, Cursed Flames, and Marked for Death for 15 seconds on contact. In addition, the projectiles do True Damage, being boosted by any damage increases and not causing a damage penalty to summon minions while in use.

How It's Made: 1 Lunic Eye + 1 Blighted Lens + 1 Dark Plasma + 1 Twisting Nether + 1 Armored Shell @ Ancient Manipulator

Why it should be added: Sometimes the Revengeance nerf to summon weapons can make fights boring, because it means all you do is just dodge and occasionally use RoD while your minions work things out. The Lunic Eye and Golden Gun went a long way to help, but the former's damage stops being relevant pretty quickly (as well as bosses typically being immune to Marked for Death), and the latter has no damage output, wears off fast, and has piercing, which can mean when your minions are doing a lot of hits it can just fail to hit at all.

So, introducing an upgrade to both! The Eye of the Sentinels can be made just before DoG and has decent-ish damage output for the area as well as keeping up debuffs, letting you feel like you're actually fighting alongside your summons without impacting their usefulness!

[frosty kindle]

pretty good ideas

[spark flax]

hewp, do i repost Sentinels or post Profaned Halo instead

since they both fill basically the same role

[sleek wigeon]

Dont repost

[frosty kindle]

i havent seen this posted though

[tulip parcel]

profaned halo would be cool as an accessory though t b h

[spark flax]

it was a couple of weeks back

[tulip parcel]

at least to give the halo appearance

I'd love to have that as a cosmetic

[ashen warren]

Oh well I suppose they can just stay broken honestly

[spark flax]

oh yeah, tru
weapons can give appearance changes tho, i.e. the Heat Ray's backpack and such

[ashen warren]

Doesn't really bother me too much I guess

[tulip parcel]

yeah but it's not permanent is the thing

[spark flax]

ah, yeah, makes sense

i guess i Could change the Halo into an accessory

but the problem is that wouldn't be player controlled

[tulip parcel]

if you do that make it take up an accessory

er

not an accessory

a minion slot

[spark flax]

and i want more interactivity in summoner class, hhhhh

[tulip parcel]

and have the visibility toggle like other active accessories

[sleek wigeon]

an accessory taking up a minion slot?

wha?

[spark flax]

I'M TIRED OF FIRING LUNIC EYES AROUND PRETENDING THAT I'M DOING SOMETHING,

[sleek wigeon]

Then use a grax

[spark flax]

wh

[sleek wigeon]

Tools arent affected by summoner nerf

[tulip parcel]

shit really?

[spark flax]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaa

but they're melee damage tho

[tulip parcel]

thanks dude I gotta tell that to my summoner friend

anyway... uhhhhh

[sleek wigeon]

They are whitelisted to not count

[spark flax]

huh.

[tulip parcel]

yeah an accessory should be able to take a minion slot

[spark flax]

i'll have to remember that ig

[worn bay]

holy crap beter

[tulip parcel]

I mean you know how the dragon soul works yeah?

[spark flax]

ye

[sleek wigeon]

No not really

[tulip parcel]

it gives you eight slots then fills those same slots

[sleek wigeon]

My source code is outdated, we dont have soul artifacts yet

[tulip parcel]

mm

my idea was that it's like

if you put the sun spirit/sun god staff in the accessory slot

[digital sparrow]

When does summoner nerf kick in? I’ve been using summoner and it hasn’t felt different yet

[tulip parcel]

that's sort of how that would function

when you first get into hardmode

[spark flax]

1/3 summon nerf in hardmode, 2/3 summon nerf post moonie

[digital sparrow]

Oh

[tulip parcel]

but lilith

[digital sparrow]

Ok that’s great

[tulip parcel]

you could still have it actively like, doing things

just have it be like any dashing accessory

[spark flax]

ohhhhhh

[tulip parcel]

or any "button toggle" accessory

yeah you understand me now?

[spark flax]

i like this idea

i like this idea very much

gonna take a break to plan out how it would be used :3c

[tulip parcel]

ayyy glad I could help

[worn bay]

I'm trying to come up with an item but i don't know what it would do
all i know i that i like MGRR a lot and there are already refs, so i want to reference my favorite song but giving it the flavor text of "You're your own master now"
But idk what the efefct of that item would be
I also had the idea for a Ceasleess Void-themed summoner weapon called The Unenlightened Mass, a summoner weapon that's just a big orb of void-y stuff, but the more summon slots you use for it, the bigger it becomes (like how the Mechworm or Dragon become longer, just with diameter instead)

[spark flax]

oof i already made a ceaseless void summon sentry

that got sent to devs iirc

[hollow shell]

Calamitas and SCal look pretty metallic to me

[ashen warren]

But I don't think it makes sense in Calamitas' case after she starts dropping bloodstone

because Brimmy, and Ravager aren't necessarily metallic bosses

same for most brimstone crag enemies

[hollow shell]

Soul Slurper?

[ashen warren]

yeah that's why I said most

[radiant meadow]

those wheel looking things that roll around too

[tulip parcel]

tbh calamitas struck me as looking more like stone than metal

[ashen warren]

despair somethings

[tulip parcel]

the despair stones sure

[ashen warren]

I guess it's like, from what I see, there wasn't a time in the lore Yharim gave Calamitas metal plating like DoG

[tulip parcel]

but not calamitas

[radiant meadow]

I kind of assumed she was cursed into a metal eyeball

[lost agate]

Arent we getting new sound effects tho?, they may as well have changed that already

[ashen warren]

true

[radiant meadow]

although apparently curse is no longer canon

[hollow shell]

Nah Calamitas is the same

[ashen warren]

oof

[radiant meadow]

I think Fabsol said the curse thingy is getting changed

[lost agate]

Tbh cal looks more rock ish to me

[tulip parcel]

^^

Yeah

One of her brothers looks metallic

but she herself looks like stone

[ashen warren]

I can definitely see her as more metallic

[lost agate]

Fireball one yeh

[ashen warren]

but it always rubbed me off the wrong way that's she's supposed to be an organic-ish being

and yeah, catastrophe is definitely metallic

[hollow shell]

I don't think she's supposed to be organic

[ashen warren]

not too sure about cataclysm

oof

[spark flax]

OKAY
I'VE FINISHED WRITING UP THE PROFANED CORE ACCESSORY REDO

[hollow shell]

otherwise her hit sound wouldn't be metallic
and her sprite wouldn't be metallic

[spark flax]

Profaned Halo
Purify your foes
Consumes a summon slot
Press [bound key, default F or something] to fire powerful deathrays at the cursor
This attack has a 10 second cooldown
While on cooldown you gain increased life regen and 25% increased flight time

Appearance: When equipped, a circular halo with the Profaned color scheme and a flame within it appears behind your character (akin to the set effect appearance of the Forbidden armor). It pulses with energy when the deathray attack is ready, and turns pure white with a black outline when the deathrays are used, slowly recovering their color as the cooldown goes on.

What It Does: When equipped, fires large profaned flames akin to the ones Providence shoots, that stay near the user and fire smaller homing flames at any enemies.
Using the bound key creates four Phantasmal Deathrays in the shape of a cross centered on the cursor (and moves with it) which deal heavy damage, ignore i-frames, and linger for a few seconds.

While the deathrays are active, the user takes 5% more damage from any source, but while the deathrays are on cooldown, the wearer gains increased life regen and 25% more flight time, as well as the accessory rapid firing profaned crystals at enemies.

How It's Made: 1 Forbidden Fragment + 15 Unholy Essence + 5 Divine Geodes @ Ancient Manipulator

Why it should be added: The Summoner class is lacking in ways to fight directly, being limited to using the Golden Gun/Lunic Eye while dodging and letting their minions do the work. In addition, almost all of their few post-moonlord weapons drop from bosses, making them easy to miss. Adding an accessory that's craftable and acts as a summon gives more options to the class, and giving it an additional hotbind 'attack' that does heavy damage and encourages smart positioning to max its damage output gives Summoner more ways they can participate in combat.

[ashen warren]

jesus

wall of text has awoken

@hollow shell that's fair

[spark flax]

sowwy for textdump

anyways yeah all feedback welcomed

oops forgot to change a mention of it formerly being a weapon. fixed

[lost agate]

If im sure of anything, calamitas has no power over circles

[ashen warren]

wouldn't it make more sense to put this in #suggestions-voting and then say "this is a re-type of an original message"

[spark flax]

no? i didn't even post the original outside of discussions

[ashen warren]

ah

[tulip parcel]

I think it should have

[spark flax]

and that's why this chat is here

[tulip parcel]

a passive boost

[spark flax]

to get feedback

[tulip parcel]

that's disabled while the laser is on cooldown

[spark flax]

oh yeah, that's a good idea

hm. maybe increased life regen or something?

[round falcon]

10% increased summon damage perhaps

[tulip parcel]

or wait no

nonono

to pay homage to the thing it's referencing

featherfall effect + occasionally spawning a homing projectile

like once per second

[spark flax]

ooooooh yeah

that's a good idea

[round falcon]

maybe while in use it also lowers defense?

[spark flax]

featherfall could be annoying tho

[round falcon]

but before and after it boosts it a lil bit?

[tulip parcel]

well featherfall isn't mandatory

[ashen warren]

feather fall is definitely annoying

[tulip parcel]

yeah maybe not feather fall

but you get what I'm going for

[round falcon]

no fall dmg?

[ashen warren]

Wings remove fall dmg

[tulip parcel]

maybe this should -count- as wings

[round falcon]

i know