suggestions-discussion

[elder kestrel]

I do have a bit of free time tomorrow so yea I could probably work on something then

[ashen warren]

[unique vector]

here we go with the "suggestion" to add a planned boss fight

[brave warren]

is that an undertale reference i see

[unique vector]

@ashen warren ur idea for determination is basically god slayer armor set bonus, but buffed

please keep each suggestion in one message

and also, i dont necessarily think they'll add post scal gear anytime soon until post scal content is added

[sturdy latch]

Also, keep in mind boss suggestions and/or priorites are ignored

[unique vector]

also

for ur boss summon suggestion be more specific

what point of the game will they be obtainable

crafting or no, if so what recipe

how strong should they be (dont give specific stats)

why should this be an added suggestion compared to other suggestions and ingame content

etc

so what your saying is these boss summon weapons should be after completing a run in all four modes?

firstly, "as strong as the boss the weapon refers to" could literally mean "make the bosses player friendly"

which, not only would be game heavy for something like summoning scal during yharim boss

but the bosses are usually designed to battle against players

meaning they would either be useless on other bosses, or too overpowered

second, there's no real reason to why it should be added

usually weapon suggestions are added due to high popularity, or for a need in balancing

not sure if they'll add something like that

not to mention you could just

spawn in a boss

and leave the other player to fight it themself

whats the difference is the real question

also

i will tell you as a fact

nobody will be crazy enough to nohit every boss in all modes for something that isn't even worthwhile

might as well create the next 800 korok seeds in LoZ

no

stop

next time please make a thoughtful suggestion

and not create something unworthwhile to obtain or overpowered as all hell

kthx

okay

doesnt mean your suggestion is any better than it is right now

literally anyone that has coding experience can say "im an undertale au developer"

[elder kestrel]

100% chance to dodge all attacks

Mate

[unique vector]

become sans basically and butcher bosses to ruin the whole point of playing a video game

what?

[elder kestrel]

Look man, I'm pretty sure it falls under the low effort suggestions rule but ill give you a pass, just dont don't make any other bad suggestions

[unique vector]

point is your suggestions will most likely not be considered due to the first one being a boss priority "suggestion", the second being a buffed version of an existing set bonus as well as being post scal (considering there isnt any post scal content yet), and the third being unworthwhile to get at all

^ yeah that

~~this isn't minimodding ~~

[elder kestrel]

I removed the boss suggestion since kinda gay

[unique vector]

wut?

alphi do you know what hes trying to say

[ruby cobalt]

Alphi.

Should I get Sarg in?

[brave girder]

this is a troll and i refuse to believe any other thing

shame we don't have trial mods

[elder kestrel]

Nah I got this under control drh smh

[ruby cobalt]

ok good

[elder kestrel]

Anyway, last verbal warning

[unique vector]

trial mods

[elder kestrel]

Please stop being dumb now

Yea

[ashen warren]

NYEH, HEH, HEH

[ruby cobalt]

But it refused.

[ashen warren]

final power

[unique vector]

But it died due to the lack of brain cells.

[elder kestrel]

Alright stop

Back on topic now

[ashen warren]

Ok. What about an inter-dimensional portal that leads to a negative world

[delicate raft]

Y'mean, another dimension?

[ashen warren]

The Tartis

[delicate raft]

That's kinda uuhhh

[unique vector]

i dont think making a entire new world within terraria is, you know, possible

[elder kestrel]

Man I don't know if this counts as being dumb/low effort but ill warn you for that, sorry

[unique vector]

considering what i heard about how terrible its coding is for modding

[crimson cove]

h

[elder kestrel]

Also, dimensions are really hard in terraria yea

[crimson cove]

Did someone say they are an AU developer in undertale

thats not a job kid

[unique vector]

if it was possible DoG would have used it a long time ago

[elder kestrel]

Let's not now

[hollow shell]

Anybody say that you need to have your suggestion all in one message yet?

Because you do

[ruby cobalt]

Shhh, Rover, this is a special case.

[elder kestrel]

Yea we did already

[unique vector]

already got you covered

[hollow shell]

It isn't

[ashen warren]

Rewinds your death, costs 100 mana, and kills whatever killed you except S. Calamitas, and bosses on Death mode

[crimson cove]

Yeah, no

[ashen warren]

Why

[crimson cove]

That’s what the Lul is for

Also Undertale copyright

[hollow shell]

Why did you star it, Alphi . _.

[unique vector]

suggestion: random chance for DoG to teleport above the player at night and murder the crap out of you after the three sentinels are defeated and he isnt (this is a joke)

[crimson cove]

Also, Undertale refferance is fucking gay

[ashen warren]

The Tartis is not friggin undertale

Doctor Who

[crimson cove]

Still copyright

[low hedge]

what did i just read

[vague olive]

Moon lord summon weapon tbh

[crimson cove]

Also when did we get onto tardis?

Dude

I’m an Undertale fan

[elder kestrel]

Can you all fucking stop

[crimson cove]

Don’t get me wrong it’s a good game

But the fan base is ghae

[elder kestrel]

Stop derailing the chat, stop being idiots

[sleek wigeon]

How?

How is the undertale fanbase bad compared to other fandoms?

[hollow shell]

Stop

[crimson cove]

This is kinda retarded to be honest

I’m just gonna shut my up

[hollow shell]

We have #general-talk for this

[sleek wigeon]

We should all move

yeah

[elder kestrel]

Thanks

[hollow shell]

Anyway
Alphi please remove that star reaction because that suggestion is nigh-unreadable and also stupid

[elder kestrel]

Alright

Should I remove the suggestion too?

[hollow shell]

Ehhh

Yes.

@garmadaddy05#2570 If you want to try again with that suggestion and be more descript and cohesive with it, feel free

h

Oh he's gone

[elder kestrel]

Huh

[ruby cobalt]

What, he's gone?

Warn evasion, just straight up ban.

[crimson cove]

H

[elder kestrel]

I'll ban him

Yea

[hollow shell]

He wasn't warned . _.

[ruby cobalt]

He was.

[elder kestrel]

He was

[ruby cobalt]

if you needed any "legal" ground - you got it now.

[hollow shell]

Ok

Seems kind of extreme

[ruby cobalt]

You can scroll up and see this entire shitfest, that was probably his only goal.

[elder kestrel]

He didn't leave wh

[hollow shell]

Says no servers in common

[ruby cobalt]

Nah, he's not here.

[elder kestrel]

slow internet sorry

Alright enough of that, back on topic

[crimson cove]

h

I should make a beyblade themed wheapon

[ruby cobalt]

Should you?

[crisp osprey]

i mean a yoyo beyblade item would be cool

[crimson cove]

Yeah but I’ve made like a million yoyo’s

[vague olive]

What

Like a meteor fist with higher fire rate?

[hollow shell]

Or are we talking WeaponOut fists?

[gusty geode]

I have never seen a suggestion get accepted so quickly before

[tired haven]

I think copper hammer was accepted in like 5 minutes by fab himself

[radiant pawn]

why did everyone out of nowhere talk about undertale

[sleek wigeon]

idk

[hollow shell]

There was an Undertale suggestion

which got deleted

[tired haven]

Wait, if I can star suggestions, could I star my own or it's good tone to wait for another cd/higher person to star it?

[crimson cove]

We need a mojo weapon

[hollow shell]

You can star your own

[sleek wigeon]

Star your own, feel free man

[crimson cove]

*jojo

[sleek wigeon]

nah

we dont

[tired haven]

Stardust guardian

[crimson cove]

Nice

[neon panther]

i use the ore for easy tier 2 magic storage upgrades

[radiant pawn]

@crimson cove there was a man who did that a time ago

[crimson cove]

Rip

[radiant pawn]

@tired haven Stardust Platinum

or better

Stardust Crusader

[hollow shell]

Holy shit

[tired haven]

Eh meh

Or I'm just missing something out of context cuz never watched jojo

[radiant pawn]

its like one of the only anime that work so well when the main character is op and badass

[fierce iris]

i'm doing my first viewing of jojo right now i'm up to part 4

[crimson cove]

One punch man

@radiant pawn one punch man

[radiant pawn]

thats why

''one'' of the only

[crimson cove]

Nice

[radiant pawn]

theres plenty that work like that

also yes add opm there

[spark flax]

"we need a jojo weapon"

the Fists of Platinum suggestion i made a few weeks back made it to dev server, just cross your fingers and hope it gets in : P

[radiant pawn]

we need sheer heart attack as a weapon smh

[fierce iris]

no no no, if any jojo fits into terraria it's the emperor

since it's a gun that can shoot controllable bullets

which can just be made homing in game

[radiant pawn]

weapon called The World

which can stop time

for 5 seconds

by using all of your mana

and having a 6 minute cooldown

also WAIT THAT MIGHT WORK

[spark flax]

obviously the emperor should be a magic missile type weapon

[radiant meadow]

how is it a weapon then?

[fierce iris]

TBH i don't think any timestopper can top the world in the enigma mod

i love the thing, it even stops your projectiles so you can set up massive burst damage with non-piercing projectiles and it just feels so good

[radiant meadow]

can you still get hurt from touching stuff while time is stopped?

and can you hurt enemies while time is stopped?

there's supposed to be a 6 minute cooldown

[radiant pawn]

forgot to add that ^

[radiant meadow]

guess they forgot to add that to the suggestion >.<

[radiant pawn]

done

i added it

it should work that you can stack any type of weapon's projectile

to deal massive damage to an enemy

the thing is i dont know what to think about hostile projectiles

if you can repel them, or get hit

[radiant meadow]

antiaris has a thing like that and you could see how they did it

I don't remember the specifics but I know you can't hurt hostile npcs while the time stop is active

[fierce iris]

i still think enigma did it the best

[low remnant]

also the Engima's variant on a "time-stop" item is literally called "The World"

[worthy raptor]

Imo the spawns where he shows up right below you are my favorite

Makes the transition from signus to p2 super smooth since you just keep on moving instead of dropping to the ground and waiting for him to catch up

[radiant meadow]

very smooth indeed
https://gyazo.com/e588757ca020626de699907a90a4c2a5

[hollow shell]

Maybe the suggestion should instead be that he cannot hit you within a few seconds of spawning, like the DoTs?

(I thought that was already a feature but apparently not)

[ashen warren]

That would work I guess, so then you cannot die from just an unavoidable attack, but an unfair attack as well

[hollow shell]

Alright then.
Change or repost the suggestion with that instead, if you wish

[alpine garnet]

Wasn't that already sent to dev server? (Doggo suggestion)

[radiant meadow]

maybe, but the one implemented is different

[hollow shell]

I can't seem to find it in the dev server
Might have been suggested before but didn't reach 50

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-discussion would anyone like to hear a great progression idea

[hollow shell]

sure

[frosty kindle]

go ahead.

[radiant meadow]

I mean, you'll have to battle plant or clone to do full progression anyways but sounds good

why only hardmode though?

I'm 90% sure the 5 weps are crafted at a mythril anvil

[opal barn]

They are

[shadow prism]

Two completely unrelated suggestions:
—————
Bobbit Hook
The jaws and spine of a Bobbit Worm, fashioned into a hook
Leaves behind a trail of abyssal seawater as it moves
Has a 20% chance to drop from Bobbit Worms post-Polterghast.

It acts like a regular hook, but its speed and move speed are ridiculously high. Has insanely far reach and causes you to leave behind a trail of damaging water as you move with it.
Serves as a calamity hook as well as a fast way to get around, and gives a pretty neat enemy a worthwhile drop.
—————
Ethereal Block
A strange block that keeps enemies out but allows friendly projectiles to pass through
Made from 10 glass + 1 phantoplasm at an ancient manipulator (makes 10)

Block that blocks enemies and enemy projectiles (only ones that normal blocks keep out) but allows player projectiles (not the player themselves) to pass through. Does not work while a boss is alive.
Serves as a way to farm events more safely and keep enemies away during exploration.

[radiant meadow]

idk how easy the 2nd one would be to code

[shadow prism]

it’s basically a hoik

[radiant meadow]

what if the projectile already passes through blocks?

[shadow prism]

then it just works as usual

[radiant meadow]

I didn't read the parentheses >.<

[hollow shell]

Hm

Not sure how to feel about the second one

First one is all good tho

[shadow prism]

Cosmilite Traps
Each of these is made from 1 (corresponding jungle temple trap) + 5 cosmilite bars at a Draedon’s forge
They all inflict god slayer inferno for 5 seconds

Cosmic Dart Trap
Fires a swarm of 3-5 godslayer darts that move insanely fast and have very slight homing properties.

Cosmic Flame Trap
Fires a 3-block-tall blast of godkiller fire that pierces and lingers for 2-3 seconds.

Cosmic Spear Trap
Fires an incredibly fast godslayer spear that goes through blocks and does not return.

Cosmic Orb Trap
Fires a cluster of 4-6 godslayer orbs that go a small distance before stopping, linger for 2-3 seconds and occasionally fire low-damage lasers at nearby enemies.

These serve as a more effective way to farm events and defend bases as well as giving traps another use.

[hollow shell]

Sounds pretty awesome

[alpine garnet]

I mean it's a cool concept

But with zerg afk farming isn't super relevant

Still like it though, like the options

[tardy blaze]

The Bobbit hook idea is one of the best hook ideas I’ve seen imo

[spark flax]

honestly! i would vote for it fifty times if i could ngl

i neeeeeeed more good hooks in my life

[hollow shell]

or yknow

any hooks

[crimson cove]

How many more boss slots are open

[hollow shell]

Hm?

[radiant meadow]

what do you mean boss slots?

[crimson cove]

Like

How many are planned to be added

[spark flax]

Draedon, Yharim, Goozma, and i think someone else i'm forgetting

[arctic wren]

xeroc

[hollow shell]

Yeah Xeroc was confirmed as last superboss

by Fab, just... casually

Surprised me cuz all the devs made a big effort to not reveal that and he just went and did it

[arctic wren]

I mean xeroc is his waifu

[marsh gust]

^

[arctic wren]

We must know of his omnipotence, Fab demands it

[spark flax]

xeroc armor is only moonlord tier, he can't be that intimidating

. . . right?

[arctic wren]

he's basically god

xeroc armor is just a cheap knockoff

I still hope that Xeroc one shots you if you summon him with Xeroc armour on

[crimson cove]

lol

Are minibosses allowed to be submitted

[quiet abyss]

Miniboss suggestions, and suggestions to change/add something to existing bosses are allowed
Albeit miniboss suggestions have a pretty low chance of getting in

[hollow wedge]

imagine trying to fish a reaver shark but you have to defeat it as a miniboss b4 you get the pick

[hollow shell]

@quiet flume Even after setting lighting to Retro/Trippy?

[quiet abyss]

^ Setting it to these 2 will disable the lighting

[hollow shell]

Background would have very little effect on FPS
It's the special lighting and shaders that do it, which are disabled in those lighting modes

[quiet flume]

wrong

my lighting IS retro and it’s there

[hollow shell]

Damn, RIP

[quiet abyss]

Rip

[quiet flume]

i’m constantly getting 2 fps throughout the fight

[hollow shell]

... you also have backgrounds disabled?

[quiet flume]

and before i could play with smoothness

here’s ss of sertijgs

settings

[hollow shell]

I mean DoG and Yharon can be pretty laggy just from their function
DoG especially. Terraria sometimes has a hard time handling the giant worm for whatever reason

Only thing I could think of to speed up your game further is to play with a smaller resolution

[quiet abyss]

^

[quiet flume]

i remember my first play through i got absolutely no lag with no bosses.

that was maybe 6 months ago

or 7

i’ll turn my resolution down

turned my resolution to 1358x804 and still gaining severe lag

[potent vortex]

MP is a lag and bug fest

[quiet flume]

nope i played multiplayer in my first PT and no lag

[quiet abyss]

Do you have anything else other than Terraria opened?

[quiet flume]

steam

but it’s hidden

[ashen warren]

tried a small resolution

[quiet flume]

i did

[ashen warren]

[hollow shell]

Did you have lag problems too, Artyom?

[ashen warren]

yes

[arctic wren]

why the one squid

[ashen warren]

because i have a ranger tarragon armor

[arctic wren]

I mean squids take up half a slot
but I more mean why even bother when one squid makes no difference

[ashen warren]

im gonna try with higher resolution

still have lags

[hollow shell]

It'd help to actually have your FPS showing

[lost agate]

Ikr

[quiet flume]

how do we make it show our fps

[hollow shell]

F10

[quiet flume]

heh well i’m on max

mac*

[hollow shell]

oh
not sure then

[radiant meadow]

squids don't take half a slot

that's phantoms

@fast pilot please read the rules before posting a suggestion

[dull kite]

@fast pilot no boss suggestions

[hollow shell]

^

[radiant meadow]

he left the server smh

[hollow shell]

wew

[dull kite]

lol.

[arctic wren]

rip
lol

also oops

[devout seal]

what did he suggest

[hollow shell]

Post-SCal boss

not any in specific, he just suggested a boss come after SCal

[hollow wedge]

[hidden helm]

Rip

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-discussion would anyone like to hear a great progression idea

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-discussion my idea would be simple as it just requires th loot for a boss to change.
Every boss drops th spawned for the next boss and can't be crafted unlesss you have 5
To spawn eoc you would need to kill demon eyes 10 maybe and the progression might be more difficult

[hollow shell]

You don't need to include the channel name every time

[ashen warren]

#suggestions-discussion are you sure rover? /s

ok the hashtag?

[hollow shell]

yeah iunno why you
thought that you needed to do that

[quiet abyss]

...So you're saying that Fabsol should revert his progression change back to linear

Despite the fact that he deliberately made the progression non-linear

[ashen warren]

Thanks for mentioning

[hollow shell]

I'm a bit unclear on what you're suggesting

[ashen warren]

Well they could make the bosses spammers harder to craft but have a second option

Just plain normal mode

[quiet abyss]

He wants to make it so that the summoning item for a boss requires you to beat the previous boss first
AKA forcing linear progression

[ashen warren]

No expert or revengencr

"Every boss drops the* spawner* (i think) for the next boss and can't be crafted unless* you have 5" 5 what?

Just normal mode

5 of the same spawned could be made so that it is non consumable

Like the dog spawned

Wait

Spawned

So you want non-consumable versions of every boss summon?

For the hard mode bosses

That is so far from what you said it's hilarious

Remember this would be in just normal mode

That's not possible

Not expert or harder

iirc anyway

How

[hollow shell]

No it's totally possible

[ashen warren]

Sorry I don't have knowledge in mod design

So a normal-mode exclusive item is possible?

[hollow shell]

You can restrict recipes to modes, yeah

[quiet abyss]

...But, why?

[hollow shell]

It's just not a thing that is done

[ashen warren]

Because they could make a super easy mode

Err

Not really..

[quiet abyss]

...

[ashen warren]

Like the opposite of revengence

[quiet abyss]

Normal mode is already easy as it is

[ashen warren]

Normal mode is such a cakewalk that I can beat moonlord with calamity installed wearing statigel armour

I'm sorry if I'm confusing anyone

[quiet abyss]

A super easy mode would be just pointless

[hollow shell]

I mean, you can totally post "In Normal Mode only, have non-consumable versions of all boss summon items" into #suggestions-voting
You might get some support

[ashen warren]

Thank you

Tbh non-consumables would work much better in all modes just so no-hitters don't need to get 9999 stacks of summoners

There'd be no challenge and that defeats the point of calamity's challenge, to have bosses which take more strategy and thought, and aren't just "make a simple bridge here"

[quiet abyss]

Like, I know they are some people out there that really struggles with Terraria even in normal mode, and a super easy mode might be good for them
But appealing to those people would require balancing said new mode, which is both a lot of work and just not worth it for the devs
Remember, the calamity devs are not paid to make calamity mod, they're working on the mod voluntarily

[hollow shell]

I don't think he wants an actual new mode

also jesus Pinkie what are you talking about

[quiet abyss]

...My brain is not working rn sorry

[ashen warren]

I find calamity very appealing for it's challenge

I'm barely able to beat SCal on expert

and it makes me happy that I can try out rev and death

[quiet abyss]

...Anyways, like Sequence said, non-consumables would work much better in all modes instead of just normal mode

[ashen warren]

I think non-consumables are fine with provi and up

other than maybe ML, most boss summons are easy to make

heck, now that you can sequence break the boss order, it opens up a lot more challenge for hardcore players

and more casual players can stumble upon some tricks to skip a few bosses if they're up to push their limits

I disagree, a non-consumable for fishron would be amazing. Otherwise yes

I guess for a boss like fishron, a suitable non-consumable would be fine

I hate needing to get the autohammer

but considering he's not required

technically speaking, it's on your choice as a player to fight him

like Ravager

you don't have to fight him

he's an optional boss

by this point, the only required bosses are
WoF --> AS --> Clonelamitas --> Golem --> LC --> ML --> Post ML bosses up to SCal

the rest are technically filler, but that's not a bad thing

since there's a lot of ways to progress

whether you're a speed runner or just a casual player

[cyan lagoon]

Why aquatic scourge though

Soul of sights arent required

Souls of might on the other hand

[ashen warren]

whatever gives fright lol

[hollow shell]

Brimmy

[ashen warren]

right

Actually, remove AS, cal and golem

Eidolists spawn after WoF defeat

[hollow shell]

lmao, Eidolon Tablet

[ashen warren]

srsly?

[hollow shell]

the best item

[ashen warren]

damn

[quiet abyss]

[hollow shell]

You wanna fight Moon Lord with Statigel?
You can

[ashen warren]

I'm glad you got back on that lmao

[quiet abyss]

But uh, have fun surviving and shaving his hp

[ashen warren]

'cause how tf do you do that armor wise

if you just mean statigel for armor

then by all means you might as well have no armor and try to no hit him

[cyan lagoon]

Abuse the cheese

[ashen warren]

lol

On normal it's fairly hard but even expert is bs with statigel let alone rev+

so making sure, the required bosses for calamity are
WoF --> LC --> ML --> Post ML?

is that correct?

[hollow shell]

yep

[quiet abyss]

Not just the armor, no
Going straight from WoF to Cultist and ML would also mean:
No angel treads, only frostsparks
Only has Bundle of Balloons/Skyline Wings for for mobility
No asgard's valor
And no a bunch of other good accs

[ashen warren]

levi better get his shit together

[hollow shell]

He gave up on his speedrun lol

[quiet abyss]

Mhm

[ashen warren]

yeah I saw lol

[quiet abyss]

Levi dislike inconsistency

[ashen warren]

we need more weapons to help levi out

I remember him saying that he kept talking about AS for the sequence break idk why

like he said none of the abyss weapons worked on him

unless I'm mistaken and he actually said brimmy lol

[quiet abyss]

Dart Pistol/Rifle + Cursed Darts

Those deal quite a lot of damage to AS

[ashen warren]

yeah

Archerfish is almost equal to megashark iirc so levi must've been smokin' something

[hollow shell]

Well then you gotta farm for giant mimics

[quiet abyss]

True

[hollow shell]

who are motherfuckers to kill coming straight outta PreHM

at least for me

[quiet abyss]

Same, but I jsut cheese them

[ashen warren]

so if i'm not mistaken, Levi's order was going to be
Wof --> AS --> Golem --> LC --> ML --> Post ML right?

[hollow shell]

Low-key
Giant Mimics

are good enemies

[ashen warren]

So then why is slime god such an ass?

[cyan lagoon]

Still no mention of souls of might

Because

!wiki cosmic worm

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Cosmic_Worm
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page cosmic worm for a direct link or !wiki search cosmic worm for a list of all hits.

[cyan lagoon]

This needs em

[ashen warren]

No it doesn't

[cyan lagoon]

Wait wh

[ashen warren]

Look

yeah

[cyan lagoon]

Last time it'd

[quiet abyss]

It was removed a while ago ye

[worthy fiber]

It's changed

[ashen warren]

legit just the sentinels now lol

[cyan lagoon]

Ghgghh

[ashen warren]

lol

In fact you don't even need to kill provi for rune of kos

ML then sentinels for full sequence-break

true

just onyx blast storm weaver and go from there

lol

[hollow shell]

Well, you need to kill Provvy for Yharon

[ashen warren]

true

[hollow shell]

She'd be easy with Post-DoG gear tho

so

[ashen warren]

actually no

[hollow shell]

maybe a strat could be whipped together

[ashen warren]

wait you mean provi for the yharon thingy for phase 2?

[hollow shell]

Nah he flies away if you didn't kill Provvy yet

yeah

[ashen warren]

right

[quiet abyss]

Mhm

[ashen warren]

and then buffed mothron

that was it as well right?

[hollow shell]

Funny that you need to kill DoG in order to fight Yharon Phase 2
considering you craft the Dragon Egg at Draedon's Forge

[ashen warren]

yeah lol

It would be pretty sick if a suggestion to change the recipe for the Dragon Egg to only need an ancient manip got through

[hollow shell]

u

[ashen warren]

so the quickest order to beat calamity technically is
Wof --> LC --> ML --> Sentinels --> DoG --> Loop back to Provi for quicker kill --> Yharon both phases --> Scal?

[quiet abyss]

Ye

[ashen warren]

damn

talk about sequence break

would there even be an easy weapon to get for LC that's accessible or quick to gather the materials for?

[cyan lagoon]

Daedalus stormbow

[ashen warren]

DAMNIT

[cyan lagoon]

The cheese machine 9000

[ashen warren]

You got me coba

but that requires quite a bit of grinding

especially for the mimic and holy arrows

[quiet abyss]

ML to sentinel then to DoG is actually quite doable though, atleast as ranged
Grab vortex armor + shredder + holy fire bullets and you're solid

[potent vortex]

Daedalus+Holy should be an ez kill

[ashen warren]

yeah but for a speedrun sake

that'd eat up too much time

There's no other weapon that's viable enough pre every HM boss

[potent vortex]

~10m in total

[ashen warren]

in Ningishu's speedrun of terraria, he opts for megashark/hatchet for LC

Offtopic though #calamity-mod-talk

[potent vortex]

If not least for farm

Yes

[ashen warren]

especially since DS takes up too much time

[potent vortex]

Off topic

[hollow shell]

Fuck I just went to a suggestion from mid-August and found a ton of 50+ star ones that haven't been delivered

[hollow wedge]

but hatchet cause had to fight golem

[hollow shell]

Oh hell in August the requirement was 35

[ashen warren]

yea

[hollow wedge]

tries to get halibut first night hell yea

[quiet abyss]

Oof, rip rover

[ashen warren]

did mine get through sors?

[hollow shell]

Which is yours?

[ashen warren]

just curious lol

[hollow shell]

Yeah if its got a check then its been delivered

[ashen warren]

cool

[hollow shell]

I personally agree with it as well

Brothers are so anticlimactic in the SCal fight

[quiet abyss]

Ye same

[ashen warren]

yea

I felt that they were so underutilized unlike in Clonelamitas' fight, which gives them a little more climatic flare as they keep reappearing

[hollow shell]

Fuck I guess we just didn't checkmark the posts this far back...
How inconvenient

[quiet abyss]

[ashen warren]

rip

[ruby cobalt]

Anticlimactic in SCal? You mean you don't like them dying literally 5 seconds after they appear?

[ashen warren]

yes

that kind of anticlimactic

[hollow shell]

Try 2 seconds, with the right set-up

[potent vortex]

SCal's brother is useless

[ruby cobalt]

Ye, sounds about right.

[ashen warren]

that's why I feel they'd be better with a nice new set of tricks and attacks

It would be neat if the brothers could be parts of the bullet hell sections or something

[jolly mirage]

Cal's brothers are so insignificant that they aren't even directly mentioned in her lore wtm

[ashen warren]

~~don't override my suggestion ~~

Not overriding though, it could go along

[jolly mirage]

OK, Calamitas got morphed into this demon eyeball thing and has brimstone flame powers, but how'd her brothers get captured as well? And how do THEY have brimstone magic?

[ashen warren]

it's in the lore somewhere lol

She brings them back to life or some shit like that

[hollow wedge]

∆

[ashen warren]

full metal calamity

As for the bros having brimstone powers, they're part of the same witch/wizard family

[jolly mirage]

Hmmm, I could believe that

[ashen warren]

wasn't her entire family slain by yharim or some shit?

[jolly mirage]

yup

[ashen warren]

"Calamitas woke up to find her parents and siblings dead, hung on crucifixes by an angry mob"

oops

[jolly mirage]

ok, so i got the killed part right

[ashen warren]

"She then took to practicing the magic of necromancy in order to revive her parents and 2 brothers"

[hollow shell]

Where her dad and mum

[jolly mirage]

Still doesn't explain how the brothers became demon eyeballs too

[ashen warren]

That would be sweet actually

Having all the fam for scal

[jolly mirage]

That was a specifically a thing that Yharim did to her, right?

[hollow shell]

That was old lore

[ashen warren]

yharim casted a spelled from the jungle

but since calamitas was far away

[hollow shell]

I guess there's just a lore-to-ingame disconnect at the moment

[ashen warren]

she only got partially affected

unless that's not cannon anymore?

[hollow shell]

That spell was just to make her go insane, not to turn her into anything

[ashen warren]

right

They were always eyeballs I suppose

[hollow shell]

lmao, nobody's ever thought of that

[ashen warren]

lol

Explains the angry mob

[hollow shell]

crucify the big orb

[jolly mirage]

But hey, that's just a theory

[ashen warren]

just making sure, everything on the wiki that's lore is cannon to calamity right?

[hollow shell]

Yes

[ashen warren]

okay cool

Until it's rewritten

i'm sure we'd be told that

[jolly mirage]

The only time it shouldn't be is if lore has been updated and the wiki hasn't yet

[ashen warren]

like in changelogs I'd imagine

[hollow shell]

Nah, it just sometimes... gets rewritten

changelogs are only for game stuff

[jolly mirage]

Crabulon is a good example of lore just getting rehashed

[ashen warren]

Would a lore channel suggestion be liked?

^

yes

[hollow shell]

The art server has a writing channel

[jolly mirage]

I don't think lore gets updated enough for that to be neccessary

[hollow shell]

as does the dev server

[ashen warren]

but we can't see the dev server

[hollow shell]

Yeah but

it's there

[ashen warren]

lol

Well I'm not a cooldude and #literature is for other people

I'd like to write a calamity story

I mean official calamity lore that you can read or something

I'm a writing buff myself

[hollow shell]

You in the art server?

[ashen warren]

yea

[hollow shell]

I hope you're utilizing the literature channel then :P

[ashen warren]

are other people already writing that story?

[jolly mirage]

What story?

[ashen warren]

iirc it's devs that write calamity lore

I don't mean like write new lore

just a story that encompasses the lore

[hollow shell]

You can just write whatever you want, if you want

[jolly mirage]

You can do so many things with what you write. I doubt "that story" has ever been done before. and even if it has, it's not gonna be like what it would be if you did it

[hollow shell]

A single full thingie that covers all of Calamity...

That'd be
hard

[ashen warren]

I'm sure

you could go in quite a few directions

The best way I can think of is the journey of the player as they find everything out

would you want it from Yharim's point of view?

Calamitas'?

the player?

[jolly mirage]

it's your story

Do what you want

[ashen warren]

definitely

[hollow shell]

Yharim POV would be interesting after all the lore is said and done, and you get to experience him witness the player come through and destroy everything he's done

[ashen warren]

yeah

[hollow shell]

Player POV would be cool to describe all the boss battles and stuff in written format
and have the lore be in the form of flashbacks or something

[ashen warren]

I think from Calamitas' point of view would also be interesting as you could delve into her view and her frustration toward the player since she always observes them

[hidden helm]

How the fuck does one birth a giant demon eyeball

Explain

[hollow shell]

It's probably easy if oneself is also a giant demon eyeball

[hidden helm]

But how

We need answers

[lunar berry]

@quiet flume when u turn lighting to retro it will be smoother and the background will be disables

[quiet flume]

already answered that. the background stays and i was on retro

[lunar berry]

hmm

[bitter topaz]

@frosty kindle i'm pretty sure this counts as a meme suggestion of sorts

[frosty kindle]

i would call it a valid suggestion, since it brings a useful element of less grinding. simply put, having a minecraft reference doesnt automatically invalidate the suggestion itself imo. we'll see how it goes, though.

[spark flax]

re. calamity writing me and a friend have been writing a story that's basically our co-op run through the game, it's been pretty fun so far, might post some in literature part of art server eventually

re. the looting enchantment thing: could do with a bit more detail regarding it, but i feel like ways to help grinding for rare items is always good

[lunar berry]

@frosty kindle i wasn’t thinking about ‘o yea its a minecraft reference lol it’ll get 50 stars’ when i wrote it

[elder kestrel]

@heavy nexus ????????

[ruby cobalt]

Ye, this guy was a brainlet all day yesterday.

[marsh gust]

🤷

[ruby cobalt]

Don't expect anything out of him.

[quiet abyss]

^ Posting random messages not at all related to the conversations atm, using wiki commands in #calamity-mod-talk when he should've been using it in #wiki-lookup etc.

[elder kestrel]

Hm, I'll warn him for now I suppose

[hazy agate]

Maybe you guys can help? i have a problem where i can't reforge any weapons, i can reforge accessories but not weapons (including tools) and actually this isn't just calamity it's ALL modded wepons, plz help 😦

[spark flax]

#help-advice-read-pins

[hazy agate]

ohh

[spark flax]

this is the chat for suggestions, not this.

[hazy agate]

wrong chat

[spark flax]

#bugs-read-pins might also work

[hazy agate]

i meant to click the one below sry

[spark flax]

Shockstorm Armor!
The echoes of sand and frost howl from within...
(All made @ Hardmode Anvil)

Shockstorm Helm: 8 defense, 15% increased throwing weapon velocity
Crafted with: 12 Martian Conduit Plating, 6 Essence of Eleum, 3 Essence of Cinder

Shockstorm Chestplate: 17 defense, 20% increased thrown damage, lowers thrown weapon ammo consume chance by 1/3.
Crafted with: 20 Martian Conduit Plating, 1 Frost Core, 1 Forbidden Fragment

Shockstorm Greaves: 10 defense, 15% increased movement speed, 20% increased thrown weapon velocity
Crafted with: 15 Martian Conduit Plating, 6 Essence of Cinder, 3 Essence of Eleum

SET BONUS:
Thrown damage and critical hit chance increased by 10% while at full health
Immunity to Frostburn, Electrified
While over 50% health, hitting enemies with a thrown critical hit (once per second) will cause lightning bolts to radiate out from the point of impact, homing in on nearby enemies

Why it should be added: Thrown has a hard time in early hardmode, and more notably doesn't have a single unique armor set for the class, which shows worst: You're likely to go right from Fossil to Daedalus or even wait until Reaver. Adding an early hardmode Thrown armor helps with this. The theming is because Frost and Forbidden armor already cover all four other classes, so using bits of their composite materials plus Martian Conduit Plating (which is used for Nanotech, hence Thrown... and can be obtained early hardmode from the Shockstorm Shuttle, hence the theming) makes sense... sort of!

(Please note that these stats are only theoretical and devs can adjust them however they like)

probably gonna post this in suggestions when more people are online, but for now, any feedback on how i could improve this would be great

[strong monolith]

Aren't Martians post Golem? Or am I dumb?

[bitter topaz]

ye they are

[spark flax]

nope! the Shockstorm Shuttle appears in space on hardmode, and it drops them too

[strong monolith]

OH

[spark flax]

it also drops Cinder and Eleum essences

which was where i got the idea, partially

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Shockstorm_Shuttle

[strong monolith]

That is amazing

ngl

[bitter topaz]

i actually forgot that thing existed

[spark flax]

i know, right?

but yeah that's where the idea came from, i was wracking my brain trying to think of a good theming to fit a thrown armor set early hardmode

my only other options were Goblin and Pirate invasions lmaooo

[strong monolith]

oof

[spark flax]

goblin thrown armor made just out of a bunch of spiky balls taped together by string

callback to my first suggestion i ever made here lmaooo

[strong monolith]

ok I just saw the pins and ngl the addition of 🏁 is amazing for feedback to the people suggesting the items/stuff

also, I'd say the armor is pretty balanced but imo the worst part is potentially rare Shockstorm Shuttle, assumin it is a rare enemy idk lol (but then again it is just one person's opinions )

[spark flax]

it's not a rare enemy

it's not too common but it's not super rare and it drops 10-30 conduit plating per kill so

two or three kills should be enough to get the materials

[strong monolith]

oh oof that's a lot

I'd say post it onto #suggestions-voting (but idk I'm just one guy idk how others feel about the weapon )

[ashen warren]

That shockstorm armour is fucking sick

@spark flax delivering quality as always

[spark flax]

i probably will, just gonna wait until more people are online so i can Maximise Likes :3c

why thank you!

[strong monolith]

Also clarify about the Shockstorm Shuttle being an enemy in Calamity meaning the plating is early HM

[spark flax]

way ahead of you buddy, i already added that! :3c

[strong monolith]

nice 👌

[spark flax]

but ye im happy to know y'all like my suggestions ❤

see, taking time to plan out stuff really does pay off

[tired haven]

Omega Warden

Post-DoG Grand Guardian upgrade
Replaces Grand Guardian in Earth recipe

Grand Guardian, 5 Cosmilite Bars, 5 Phantoplasm, 10 Nightmare Fuel, 10 Endothermic Energy @ Draedon's Forge

Features:

• slightly bigger size;
• lower speed (to match the humongous nature of a weapon);
• increased heal/debuff defense reduction;
• can summon static cosmic theme portal on hit that deals immense damage on touch and occasionally fires lasers. This ability may use a cap to prevent melee speed madness.

True melee has nothing past post-Providence swords (excluding dev items), and this weapon will be nice first step in expanding the class

Is there anything to adjust in this suggestion?

[spark flax]

i love it

i already love the grand guardian

so

11/11 would use with reckless abandon

[crimson cove]

What’s the rule against mini-bosses

[worthy fiber]

Mini-bosses are fine as suggestions I guess

But it's not like they're guaranteed to get in

[crimson cove]

I wanna make sure from a mod or sumthin

[ashen warren]

Great sand shark was a suggestion

That's all you need

[crimson cove]

I mean like will it get noped immediately

[tired haven]

Minibosses are fine

[worthy fiber]

I'm a wiki contributor you should trust me

[tired haven]

I am cool dude trust me as well

[crimson cove]

confusion

[marsh gust]

i have no roles and i can tell you, you can listen to them

[radiant meadow]

I have no roles, trust me

[crimson cove]

I trust term

[radiant meadow]

minibosses are ok

[crimson cove]

Sweet

[tired haven]

Think of them as fat rare mobs

[crimson cove]

So

Obese people?

Wait no, those aren’t rare in America

[radiant meadow]

oof

[tired haven]

Can't relate because they are not as rare

[crimson cove]

lol

Brainstorms spider nest miniboss

[ashen warren]

Obese zombie miniboss

Wait thorium already does that

[crimson cove]

because its an abused biome

shit

Wait which boss

[marsh gust]

patchwreck

?

[crimson cove]

Viscount isnt purely spider biome

Its cavern if thats what you mean

[ashen warren]

Patchwerk and the dude that spawns after you kill patchwerk

[radiant meadow]

confused zombie?

[ashen warren]

Both are basically obese zombies

Nah it's called an "abomination" or something

[crimson cove]

Oh you meant the zombie boss

[worldly willow]

I want more bosses. And invasions

[crimson cove]

I meant making a spider biome boss

Dude, Calamity already has too many bosses

No new invasions though...

[worldly willow]

I want more bosses

[crimson cove]

Probably not

What about an underworld invasion

[ashen warren]

Patchwerk isn't a boss and calamity is fucking teeming with bosses noko

[crimson cove]

Like, two heckmouths open up somewhere in your world, and you either have to close them up (as in cover them with blocks) or defeat 1000 enemies, most of which are origonal

Like blood demons, Skeleton warriors, Maybe even hades as a miniboss

Sound good to try to make?

[marsh gust]

so its like OOA?

but no waves

[crimson cove]

Kinda

Maybe have like 6 hecc mouths

[sleek wigeon]

Shouldnt an upgrade be gated behind some mat?

[low hedge]

cosmic bar

[sleek wigeon]

Wait cosmic bars

Thats not cosmilite

[low hedge]

o

i thought it was called cosmic for some reason

[sleek wigeon]

Honestly the only reason i remember cosmilite is that its super similar to cosmolight

[quiet abyss]

Cosmic and Cosmilite is a bit similar I guess
The first 4 letters are the same

[low hedge]

cosmic is easier on the eye

any word with ili in it can die

ESPECIALLY illi

[spark flax]

"any word with ili in it can die"

that hurts my feelies //badjoke

[sleek wigeon]

stop being such a word tbh

[neon panther]

ive nearly called it "godslayer bars" before so

[sleek wigeon]

👀

[spark flax]

i mean, the armor is called godslayer armor, so

[low hedge]

no offense 💖

[tired haven]

Cryonic- Daedalus
Perennial - reaver
Meld - xeroc
Seems common

[spark flax]

in other armor word related fun facts: a few weeks ago i learned that Tarragon is actually a cooking herb and we have some in my home's kitchen and now every time i see tarragon armor's name i'm like why would that be its name

[low hedge]

but words with that make my eyes shut down

is it an l?? and i?? all ls??? all is???

does it use two ls or one l??

[tired haven]

Cosmiiite

[ashen warren]

You didn't know tarragon was an herb? huh

[spark flax]

in my defense: i'm a dumbass

[tired haven]

I think spriting and art was moved to dedicated art server ages ago @frigid sphinx

[low hedge]

here's a solution

[neon panther]

yeah, i think he wants it to view the archived channel though

[frigid sphinx]

Wym
The messages from there weren't

[low hedge]

join art server

[sleek wigeon]

Give wiki editors spriting and art perms tbh

[sleek wigeon]

lack dashing accessories

[bitter topaz]

lacking a dash

what is this? 1.2?

[sleek wigeon]

Even 1.2 had a tabi

[low hedge]

not having a dash or a mobility item faster than profaned donuts at that point

[radiant meadow]

complaining about not getting a free guardian kill smh

[fierce iris]

TBH a lot of things in vanilla flat out kill you if you lack mobility

like skeletron will just sit on your face until you die

[tired haven]

Waffle, retinazer, moon lord

[fierce iris]

i thought it was spasmatism that killed you in the twins fight if you didn't have mobility

because cursed flamethrower

[tired haven]

Well idk, retinazer just random spam laser you to death

If you can't get above it/a screen ahead

[fierce iris]

yeah but that's avoidable

if you're good

i'm taking about stuff you can do NOTHING about

[tired haven]

It's pure rng
Spaz can be avoided with mere jumps a lot of times
lasers just hit you or not and you don't choose that

If you are in that death angle ofc

Though generally yes, spaz is more offensive

[elder kestrel]

@heavy nexus yo quit with the fucking low quality suggestions already

[hollow shell]

What was it?

[cyan lagoon]

something about nerfing the offense profaned guardian's charge

[opal barn]

Yeah so it wouldn't just lock onto the player

[cyan lagoon]

it wasnt low effort to me imo

just rather empty

[hollow shell]

Did you delete it, Alphi?

[cyan lagoon]

He did

[hollow shell]

smh

[cyan lagoon]

also on the topic of earlier

who the hell cares if he isn't using a dash accessory?

He does what he wants and shutting down a suggestion just for a specific playstyle is stupid.

[elder kestrel]

Fine

[crisp osprey]

im gathering someone has suggested armour made from bars of life
or armour that is made from the ataxia, daedalus and reaver armour

[radiant meadow]

so like an early auric armor almost?

maybe replacing bars of life in auric recipe?

making auric more overpowered

[low hedge]

[radiant meadow]

I can already see auric melee with ataxia bonus

[crisp osprey]

nah i meant as just armour that is replacable with the celestial armours

being made in the same way as auric
though it only requires like cores of calamity, singularities and some other crap

[radiant meadow]

you mean like a better xeroc armor?

[ashen warren]

Honestly just buff xeroc so it's viable for not throwing

[hollow shell]

Honestly
add Elemental Armor and turn Xeroc into the Post-ML throwing-specific armor

[ashen warren]

and remove luminite like the good old days

"Elemental Armor" i'm sold

[radiant meadow]

not to mention that xeroc is only viable for throwing because of a lack of options

[crimson cove]

@shadow prism didnt you already post that

[hollow shell]

Nah it was in here

[ashen warren]

I heard throwing specific armor

[ashen warren]

E

[sleek wigeon]

Endless water bucketing a desert to full

lol

That wont take litteral years at all

[lost agate]

Not to mention deserts are generated with no actual holes to keep water

[hollow shell]

I don't think he means actually refilling the whole thing
cuz he said "trivial"

[cyan lagoon]

antlion pits

[hollow shell]

Maybe he means using the Bottomless Water Bucket item in some way
like
in tandem with another item or at a certain location

and the desert would be converted

[fierce iris]

i mean a cool restored ocean biome would be P cool

imagine the oasis but the whole biome

[lunar berry]

@tired haven i think your suggestions are angled towards helping your play through in some way or another

also you spelt ‘aesthetic’ wrong in your video at the AS arena

[hollow shell]

Nothin wrong with personal bias if 50 people agree with him

[tired haven]

I think my suggestions are pointing at weak sides which are best recognised when trying the actual stuff
Also my true melee ended like 4 months ago

What about aesthetic, well, fail. Need to learn English more

you didn't see how much I complain about how defiled works btw @lunar berry

[lunar berry]

ik

i think nothing’s wrong with suggestion that help your playthourghs as long as they’re not broken

and yeah enemy dr is rart

[tired haven]

Well, I could see why this tendency can be disturbing

[lunar berry]

nah i was just pointing it out

[tired haven]

Ye I know now

[lunar berry]

also it must be painful to switch to marked magnum every 2 seconds

[tired haven]

Well in next update I could do it once in 4 secs

[lunar berry]

ah true

@quiet flume interesting suggestion but edit out the damage values since it’s up to the devs to sort that out

and also why 373 damage

[quiet flume]

idk but ill edit it out

there is that a little better

@lunar berry

[lunar berry]

nice

[heady comet]

[ashen warren]

id rather not fight full health signus again thanks

original stats + 2 min time limit doesn't sound fun

[radiant meadow]

umm, they're weakened

why would they get buffed beyond what they are normal?

[hollow shell]

🤔

[heady comet]

"Learn"

[hollow shell]

AHahahaa
"fix desync"

"fix multiplayer"

[radiant pawn]

''learn how to''

[heady comet]

Seems condescending towards fab ngl

[frosty kindle]

learn how to HMMM

[ashen warren]

and then he starts playing Fortnite

[heady comet]

Meme

[radiant pawn]

so the prime head doesnt do 800 damage as if it were daytime

there's something called dodging

and multi scaling is something that's added to vanilla

[ashen warren]

theres another thing called cosmolight

[hollow shell]

"as if it were daytime"

[radiant pawn]

boi u cant use cosmo with skeletron prime

[ashen warren]

why

[radiant pawn]

even if you turn daytime

to then make it nighttime and have more time

[ashen warren]

ok well than dont be bad and just kill it at night then

[radiant pawn]

he will become dg at that daytime tick

[hollow shell]

He's not complaining about fighting it during the day . _.

[radiant pawn]

i know

[hollow shell]

He's complaining about it dealing so much damage it's LIKE it's daytime even though it's night

(I think Ben doesn't?)

[ashen warren]

fair enough i read the first line and gave up

[radiant pawn]

that suggestion is actually really nice

[ashen warren]

yeah thats a good one

[radiant pawn]

it can discourage a bit those players who use all the classes

but its actually really good

[frosty kindle]

hence the point of revengeance, as well as a boost to astral armor

[radiant meadow]

especially since astral armor's effectiveness was basically ruined after the set bonus nerf

[radiant pawn]

and astral wouldn't be thrashed so quickly

leaving you to thought if you want a single class boost (ataxia) or a wide boost (astral)

[hollow shell]

Jesus, this influx

[radiant meadow]

What if you had summoner armor and spammed other weapon types?
Would all your weapons be nerfed?

[hollow shell]

Yeah but your minions would be really strong

[radiant meadow]

so minions stay strong even if holding non summoner weapon?

[hollow shell]

Oh right
yeah nevermind

[ashen warren]

bottled water for 20 silver, when you can go mine some sand then make bottles then go craft bottled water?

[hollow shell]

I would absolutely take that deal

Fuck bottled water

[frosty kindle]

isnt 20 silver a little much?

[marsh gust]

why not add plasma rod to the prismatic staff recipe? and make inflict debuffs the plasma rod does

@sacred kraken

[sacred kraken]

ooh

[marsh gust]

maybe not carnage/nights ray and mana flower cause it has upgrades already

[hollow shell]

well so does Plasma Rod technically

but
yeah, Mana Rose and Carnage/Nights have pretty definitive upgrade-lines

[radiant meadow]

plasma rod upgrades into aether's whisper but that's not quite as definitive as night's ray

[marsh gust]

aether's whisper is so late in the game .-.

compared to plasma rod

[radiant meadow]

so is ethereal talisman?

wait, I'm dumb

you meant mana rose >.<

[sacred kraken]

alright i got it

[marsh gust]

mana rose upgrades into gleaming magnolia after mechs ye

[radiant meadow]

and then arch amaralysis, then vivid clarity

[marsh gust]

hell i cant find the flowers i need to craft the mana rose... can we have it craftable/use a different recipe?

[radiant meadow]

you guys kept saying mana flower so I thought you meant the accessory >.<

[marsh gust]

oops >< my bad

[sacred kraken]

there

how about the icicle staff

since that thing sux and it adds like 2 damage to it

but it could inflict chilled or frostburn

[marsh gust]

tbh ive never heard of the icicle staff XD

[sacred kraken]

i barely have

25 ice blocks and 3 shiverthorns to make

OH i have an idea for an UPGRADE to the Prismatic staff

[marsh gust]

ah.. cheaper non explodey sky glaze.. i see

[sacred kraken]

but before i post it can i ask if it's a decent idea

[marsh gust]

but it wouldnt make sense in the recipe

[sacred kraken]

adding rainbow rod, magic missile, flamelash

i need a few more tho

🤔

[marsh gust]

it'll lock the staff into hm tho

[sacred kraken]

no, that's the upgrade

im thinking of upgrade ideas

[marsh gust]

it would be nice to have a modded mage weap to fight WoF

[sacred kraken]

maybe JUST rainbow rod, then a few others

[marsh gust]

night's ray for me just have too short range for DM WoF

[sacred kraken]

yea prismatic staff would be very good at taking care of WoF and early HM

oh i got it

so now (for the upgrade) so far it's rainbow staff and ice staff

that one drop that does nothing

now it does

astral staff... okay im getting a good idea

time to start writing

[marsh gust]

hmm if the terra blade has an alternative why cant terra ray have one formulates plen

[sacred kraken]

renamed prismatic staff to rainbow staff

so now prismatic staff can be it's upgrade

[marsh gust]

and now theres a early hm throwing set, we're missing the weap

spear of paleolith : the game

[spark flax]

if the Shadowflame Cores that were my first suggestion (and got 50+ likes) ever gets in then you'll have a good early hardmode weapon : P

but ye i'll keep thinking as to any other possible early HM thrown stuff

[crimson cove]

Why are so many people trying to add new things today

[marsh gust]

cause its monday

it is for me anyways

[sacred kraken]

sunday

for us americans

sunday night, when we're all sad so we do fun things to be less sad

it is monday-eve

[ashen warren]

why is it a bad thing to have more suggestions?

[crimson cove]

You are a lier

Also, cuz they drown out good ones

[sacred kraken]

liar

[crimson cove]

Lier

I refuse to admit i was wrong

[sacred kraken]

Leier

[marsh gust]

[crimson cove]

Liere

[sacred kraken]

[crimson cove]

Lienen

[sacred kraken]

Linen

[marsh gust]

do you guys think a skyglaze upgrade would be nice?

[sacred kraken]

yes

[crimson cove]

All upgrades are naise

[sacred kraken]

(icicle staff)

naise

im not even going to

[marsh gust]

smthng with the hellwing staff, icicle staff, shadowdrop staff, and sky glaze. for early hm

but mage has alot of early hm weaps already 😩

[sacred kraken]

not really...

they all suck

[spark flax]

oh yes really

[marsh gust]

DVD for destroyer

[sacred kraken]

dont count them

[crimson cove]

Mage is way too used

Mage was clearly the favorite

[spark flax]

Shadecrystal Barrage

[marsh gust]

^

thats my 2 go to weaps

[crimson cove]

And summon was the least favorite

[spark flax]

there's a ton of early hardmode mage stuff lmao, mage is set for the entire game

[crimson cove]

Speaking of

[spark flax]

Brimrose Staff shortly after, etc.

[crimson cove]

Spams out tons of summoner things

[marsh gust]

shadecrystal barrage twins then gleaming magnolia

[sacred kraken]

tell me one time you've ever used the "harvest staff" or "icicle staff" and enjoyed it

[marsh gust]

never used it, honest