#suggestions-discussion

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radiant meadow
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So you just don't want it completely cut off from the bottom?

orchid hatch
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The big chunk of nothingness at the bottom and on the right for example

radiant meadow
ashen warren
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That can't actually be fixed entirely

faint rivet
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That dungeon FeelsRelatableMan

orchid hatch
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On the left, even though i get its ment to be separated, the transition could still be done better, given some more space

ashen warren
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The edge of the map is larger than the ingame camera

orchid hatch
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Im aware.

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Some programming magic can fix that

radiant meadow
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I think it's supposed to go to the edge of the map

ashen warren
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No actually it can't

orchid hatch
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Yes actually it can.

ashen warren
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Vanilla worldgen code from what i've heard is stupid

orchid hatch
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so

ashen warren
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They can't change it since that would be editing the game itself

radiant meadow
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the only issue I see is that it could be more rounded near the bottom with some blending like on the right side of the abyss

orchid hatch
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Which calamity already does @ashen warren

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Method Swapping my dude

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plenty of mods doing it

ashen warren
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Tmodloader has limits

orchid hatch
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like?

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Are you talking about mac / linux issues with methodswapping that calamity already has? That is fixed in the upcoming tml build?

ashen warren
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How would I know? My tmodloader knowledge is from calamity devs and the tforums

orchid hatch
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So shitty knowledge

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Tcf is trash and absol is extremely poor with words

ashen warren
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"calamity devs" "shitty knowledge" ok

orchid hatch
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My source? Tml devs.

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as in me talking to them

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I assume you know who "fixed" method swapping in the upcoming build correct?

ashen warren
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I'll say this one thing and get back to what I was doing before. I've heard a lot of stuff about how worldgen can't be changed in certain ways, especially when i made my abyss expansion suggestion so that's what i'm drawing from

orchid hatch
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The calamity devs struggle with mire advanced things, doesn't mean everyone does.

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Eg. Main menu music

ashen warren
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I've heard working with vanilla code is like swimming with a strand of spaghetti for a body

orchid hatch
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probably, which people do

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Dradon, Mirsario, Eldrazi, Rartrin, Itorius etc

hollow shell
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After having this conversation
can you now find ways to elaborate on your suggestion?

orchid hatch
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I did

hollow shell
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I meant within the suggestion itself

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Hm?

worthy fiber
spark flax
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Question: does the Guide have any unique hint messages if you have calamity installed?

worthy fiber
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afaik, nope

spark flax
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I kind of appreciated having it on my first ever blind terraria playthrough as a hint for what stuff I still needed to do and it could be useful for calamity to add some

marsh gust
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who even talks to the guide in modded :v

spark flax
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i do??? all the time????? so i can look up recipes i've forgotten without having to change tabs and load up the wiki?

ashen warren
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Recipe browser is way easier imo but do what you want

spark flax
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its literally more convenient unless you need specific details imo

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plus i think it'd just be a cute touch, there'd be stuff you could add like mentioning where the Abyss is since you could easily miss it (until like halfway thru hardmode or something) if you weren't spoiled in advance

marsh gust
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ah makes sense.. we could have the guide say "you should try rodding in the abyss" HDfailure (just a joke)

spark flax
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but idk that's just my opinion and it'd be pretty low importance in terms of suggestions

marsh gust
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yea n that

marsh gust
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isnt hell below abyss alrdy?

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oh wait punctuations is missing pain

lost agate
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@steel ermine but why?

steel ermine
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@lost agate so you can´t mine to hell and drain byss

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abyss

lost agate
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That can be easily avoidable

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The thing is made out of thick voidstone wall for a reason

lost agate
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I mean, you can drain the ocean too if you try hard enough, but they dont remove hell below oceans because of that

hollow shell
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(Abyss is closer to Hell than the Ocean tho)

lost agate
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Yeah, but you get the idea

hollow shell
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Also if you drain the Abyss, that's your fault and it's easily fixed
Just plug the hole. The Hell water will evaporate and the Abyss will refill

lost agate
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But both of those process are slow so be patient

night cradle
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a quick question, are legendary item suggestions not allowed?

worthy fiber
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Pretty sure they're fine

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Unless I'm mistaken

shadow prism
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Rework Vivid Clarity
Make it so it fires a very tight spread of 3-5 parallel bolts of energy in the direction of your cursor, and it deals more damage the further it goes. Every second, each beam splits into 3 until it hits an enemy/block or 5 seconds pass. The beams linger for ~.5 seconds and ignore i frames. Also inflicts a crapton of debuffs including marked for death, ichor and armor crunch.

Vivid Clarity is currently by far the worst exo weapon, so this gives it a bit of a buff.

lost agate
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@agile cloud you could basically craft those in the first minutes of a run

agile cloud
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Thats the point, to make the pre-hardmode stage go a little faster

lost agate
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It goes fast already

agile cloud
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That is true, but it could basically just be an item for speedrunners

lost agate
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Well, i dont think it would be that much of a help

agile cloud
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In deathmode it would be

lost agate
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In deathmode you have rage and adrenaline

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Its even faster

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A few 5% or so dmg are nothing compared to a 1000% dmg with adren

sleek wadi
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Speedrunners could get through pre-HM on night 1 with a bridge and like 5 dynamite stacks. They won't bother with crafting a pin

round falcon
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mage pin
melee weapon
thonk

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also any weapon implies vivid clarity, sdfmg, exoblade

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can be used

agile cloud
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If you want to use exoblade then go for it

shadow prism
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Divine Orb
Summons an orb to provide light
Made from 1 shadow orb/crimson heart + 1 magic lantern + 1 fairy bell + 1 wisp in a bottle + 1 suspicious looking tentacle + 1 strange orb + 5 nightmare fuel + 5 endothermic energy + 5 cosmilite bars + 5 phantoplasm + 5 darksun fragments + 3 yharon soul fragments + 25 auric ore at a Draedon’s forge

Exo light pet that’s basically just 100% light hack, even in the abyss. Grants +1,000 aggro to the player. Summons a rainbow colored Divine Orb that hovers near the player, kinda like immaterializer.

lost agate
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This sounds like something fargo would put together smh

neon panther
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I like it but 100% light hack and +1,000 aggro is a little much

night cradle
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^

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I mean, its indegridents are p easy to get

agile cloud
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45% Light hack and 200-400 aggro is better

neon panther
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how about no light hack? seeing the entire screen is both annoying and somewhat broken even if it's mostly faded

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how about just +7 to light level or something

agile cloud
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Light hack toggleable?

round falcon
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yes please less light

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maybe no light hack but nullify all abyssal light reduction and grant some extra light as well as increased aggro and spawn rates

agile cloud
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but dont increase spawn rates too much

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like 1.15x

jolly mirage
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Plus, it for some reason requires an Expert Mode exclusive item unlike any other auric anything in the game

ashen warren
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Cryogen's Amputator
Cryogen, the ice god's legendary amputator.
Cryogen's Amputator is the post-DoG upgrade of the Molten Amputator. It gets more powerful via getting every soul artifact.
Crafting recipe: 1 Molten Amputator, 22 Cosmilite Bars, 9 Phantoplasm, 19 Ectoplasm, 1 Eradicator, 1 Dimensional Soul Artifact and 1 Soul Edge

Throwing/Melee Damage: 957
Knockback: 10 (Very strong knockback)
Rarity: Dark Blue
Best modifier: Legendary
Use time: 15
Crit chance: 19%

neon panther
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the problem is, calamity doesnt have an ice god named colden

ashen warren
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eh

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i'll change it to Cryogen lol

neon panther
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i dont want to tear this apart but cryogen/permafrost is a mage

ashen warren
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Eh doesn't matter

neon panther
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but at least it's an actual character

radiant meadow
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I mean, technically cryogen is just a magic castle gone mad iirc

shadow prism
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why is dimensional artifact in a weapon recipe

ancient widget
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@tight chasm for your abyss suggestions I can't find a personal reason to implement them really

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making all layers dangerous when those events occur would feel very artificial and would make every layer feel the same as the game progresses

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I do not see the current abyss as having untapped potential either

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if this weren't terraria then sure

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but it's not

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I greatly prefer just smashing through the easier layers as I upgrade my equipment, regardless of progression

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also the abyss minibosses cannot be made too powerful due to the cramped quarters of the biome

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could lead to bullshit scenarios if they're buffed a lot

ruby cobalt
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Any way to expand the biome?

ancient widget
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I'd rather not

ruby cobalt
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Without actually completely destroying dungeon, that is.

ancient widget
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not really

ruby cobalt
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Fair enough.

ancient widget
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nothing that wouldn't sacrifice it being an ocean trench

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the only changes I'd make to the abyss atm are:
1 - an actual boss, the minibosses aren't meant to be super challenging anyway
2 - perhaps a couple more aesthetic effects

ruby cobalt
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Eidolon Wyrm but it's actually killable? HDfailure

jolly mirage
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Hmmm, an Abyss boss, i'd be interested to see where you could go with that 🤔

ancient widget
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well I had plans for a boss in there but it's since fell into obscurity

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so I just stopped giving a care, for now

carmine sphinx
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In the changelog you said the big planetoids will be changed,will they still have cinderplate will we have to get them from somwhere else?

ruby cobalt
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Boss Rush and Astral rework taking time, I'd guess?

shadow prism
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p sure the only planetoid change is removing the alchemy table

ancient widget
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"38 - Changed the main planetoid to generate something else rather than the alchemy table and etc."

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...

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I only said I put something in instead of the alchemy table area

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the etc is the stuff in that same room

carmine sphinx
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oh ok,thx

ancient widget
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boss rush is done

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I'm just sitting here waiting for everything else

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I've done my job

little raptor
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Damn

shadow prism
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so it just needs to be tested and then the update’s done?

ancient widget
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boss rush has been tested

carmine sphinx
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even in multi?

ancient widget
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I don't have the astral rework yet because I haven't been given the files

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yes

little raptor
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1 M hp king Slime

ancient widget
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lol

ruby cobalt
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Wao.

jolly mirage
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I'm excited to see what the dev team came up with for the Astral Meteor 😃

ruby cobalt
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Not even an astral meteor though, it's an entire biome.

ancient widget
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I just wanted to explain here that the abyss is good as it stands now

ruby cobalt
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Also uh, Fab, can I get an input from an experienced coder like you?

ancient widget
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and I feel adding more shit to it would make it feel less like an open hole of water

carmine sphinx
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I would hope that when you go to the meteor a portal pops up and takes you to astral world but i think it's very hard to program

ancient widget
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which is what it's meant to be

ruby cobalt
ancient widget
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making the pressure effects happen at higher depths would diminish the effect I was going for

ruby cobalt
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On a scale of "I'm too good"/"Nope, ain't touching this"

ancient widget
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It's meant to escalate and be like, y'know, real pressure and light levels

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not be from 0 to 100 in the first layer

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no matter how far you have gotten in the game

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that pillar rework looks like a pain in my ass

jolly mirage
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Yeah, that's a lot of stuff to put in o_O

ruby cobalt
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Hell yeah it does, that's why I intentionally mentioned that it was "nigh impossible"

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Too much fuckery with AIs, biomes, etc

ancient widget
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this is why I rarely read suggestions and when I do I don't do the difficult ones that take me a long time

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I don't have unlimited time, nobody does

ruby cobalt
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That's fair.

jolly mirage
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It is neat to see you here, though

ancient widget
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hey at least I talk to people

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unlike...some other members

ruby cobalt
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🤔

jolly mirage
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And we're glad to have your input

neon panther
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While we're here is my Throwing Ore Weapon Rework thing decent HDhurdur

ruby cobalt
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Smh, not linking it as a screenshot.

neon panther
cyan lagoon
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Didnt have to post it here lol

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It has a green check for a reason

ruby cobalt
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Fab's here though.

tight chasm
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@ancient widget understandable, I didn't really expect too much when I suggested those, it was worth a shot anyways. At the very least, Would it feasible to implement void though? that wouldn't change too much, and would be a nice variation to let you know something's different

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If not thats fine as well, after all, it is your mod, you choose what happens with it

neon panther
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What if we have Pressure in layers 1-2, R'Lyeh in layer 3, and Void in layer 4? so we have a compromise between R'Lyeh fans and Void fans

ruby cobalt
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Nah, we don't.

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Too many themes, and all of them are good.

neon panther
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errr pardon but i dont quite understand what you're saying

ruby cobalt
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I mean, neither of them would last long enough.

ancient widget
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@tight chasm Sure

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I might just put void as the final layer

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To make it extra spooky

tight chasm
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👍

ancient widget
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since we have 4 layers

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well, 5 actually

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the 1st layer is just the area before the abyss biome starts

frosty kindle
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the big, empty tunnel?

ancient widget
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yeah

tight chasm
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That one doesn't really count imo

ancient widget
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the creepily empty part

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I should just disable music when in that area

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to make it spookier

frosty kindle
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it is kinda creepy because i think an enemy will surprise me but nope, its just a ghost/lonely town
Population: YOU.

tight chasm
ancient widget
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all creatures that evolved either decided to move up or down away from that area

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probably because there weren't any plants or anything there to sustain after a while

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deepest LorE

frosty kindle
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is the abyss the place where all unused/scrap lore goes?

tight chasm
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deEP LORE

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GeT iT

ancient widget
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I'd love to have a 5th layer in the abyss but small worlds are nowhere near big enough for it

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it'd be where the abyss boss is fought

tight chasm
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Just permanently disable small world creation while calamity is installed Henkhenk

ancient widget
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small worlds ruin fucking everything

frosty kindle
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make small world generation make the world 100% corrupt hahayes

tight chasm
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Make small worlds crash a la Lorde

neon panther
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So is it gonna be Tunnel = none, layers 1-2 = Pressure, 3 = R'YLEH and 4 = void?

frosty kindle
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likely so

neon panther
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neat

ancient widget
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1-2 aren't really that spooky, 3 has the fucking awful colossal squids and other nasty things

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4 is just hell

neon panther
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i managed to get into layer 3 once post-skeletron and died within about 5 seconds to a gulper fuck

tight chasm
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Eidolists are fucking everywhere down there

alpine garnet
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If they're playing small worlds that's their problem hahayes

ancient widget
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I should maybe add a chilling effect as well, something that drains your HP if you aren't warm enough, wait

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that'd be cool for the ice biome

frosty kindle
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i was was ALMOST about to cheese a collosal squid because it got stuck and couldnt phase through tiles (abusing Squid AI) but then a damn gulper eel one shot me

ancient widget
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surface wouldn't be cold really

tight chasm
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That would be cool wouldn't it

neon panther
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dammit syg

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but yeah that would be pretty nice

alpine garnet
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I'm just gonna leave and chill

ancient widget
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it makes the game feel deeper if that makes any sense, adding these little bonus effects

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to gear you'd normally never use

alpine garnet
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I agree, love them personally

frosty kindle
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but then Red would be like: "chilling effect? yeah lets just slow down player speeds to a crawl"

tight chasm
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ye it does, helps with the overall experience even if it adds almost nothing by itself

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chilled debuff Henkhenk

neon panther
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terraria VR edition when

ancient widget
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rev mode will likely do something with vanilla stuff

neon panther
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adds to the experience GWseremePeepoThink

ancient widget
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I'll keep it secret for now

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environmental effects

tight chasm
ancient widget
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gas mask when lower in jungle to avoid being poisoned by spores in the air

neon panther
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more secrets HDhurdur

tight chasm
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needs a bucket of water with you at all times in desert to avoid dehydration Henkhenk

ancient widget
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nah, that'd be annoying af

frosty kindle
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and have earplugs to stop listening to DoG's egotistical voice

ancient widget
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just drink out of puddles and lakes

tight chasm
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i know slobbyjoy

ancient widget
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what could go wrong

tight chasm
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new debuff, "infected"

ancient widget
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You have parasitic worms now

neon panther
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in b4 the terrarian is actually astrum

tight chasm
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insert obligatory calamity worm boss joke here

neon panther
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a parasyte debuff would be interesting
you just lose complete control over your player HDfailure

tight chasm
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pls no confused is already bad enough slobbyjoy

ancient widget
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also yeah, hardmode ore throwing rework is nice

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If not this update it'll be next update

frosty kindle
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maybe not complete control, but randomly inverts your controls like a confused debuff but it works differently?

neon panther
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nice

frosty kindle
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oh yeah throwing rework is hot

tired haven
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Feral bite with its random confused works like that tbh

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and it is horrible experience

radiant meadow
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It's your fault for getting Feral Bite

tired haven
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90% of debuffs are your fault

frosty kindle
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even potion sickness is your fault

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you consumed a potion

shadow prism
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warped is you fault for summoning doggo

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heart attack is your fault for playing the game HyperYharimJudge

lunar berry
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all debuff are your fault

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if u think about it

tired haven
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Should have one-ticked doggo so he doesn't apply warped

lunar berry
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🤔

tired haven
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All debuffs you get while playing a game, with your own intention, so lets move on

radiant meadow
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So in order to one tick doggo---
YOU THINK YOU CAN BUTCHER ME!!!!

shadow prism
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skeetarmourainiumer doesn’t trigger anti butcher for some reason

tired haven
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Probably because it hits lotsa times but not with high damage?

shadow prism
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yeah

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also god eater and the other meme debuffs, overrides and whatnot it has

sleek wigeon
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2%/ 5% damage boost isnt something that would be ever used or crafted

tired haven
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looks at wulfrum set
shrugs

faint rivet
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^

radiant meadow
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especially in the early game where you might not even get a boost though
wulfrum and victide often give no dmg boost

lost agate
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They do

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How tf are you supposed to know which helmet is which otherwise?

shadow prism
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In preparation for the eventual scal hitcap removal, I propose two different ideas:

  1. Significantly reduce scal’s damage, but make her deal “true damage”: damage that cannot be blocked, avoided, mitigated or otherwise countered. In other words, if a hitbox collides with yours, you WILL take x damage. This prevents facetanking, but the reduced damage prevents her from one/two-shotting you.
  2. Possibly raise the hitcap, and make it so the hitcap doesn’t instakill you, but instead makes scal immediately repeat the previous bullet hell, gain 1.5x damage and 2x dr, and/or maybe a few new attacks or other stat boosts or something.
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thoughts?

tired haven
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1 is basically prov antiheal flames
2 is interesting but kinda makes average player experience a disaster?

shadow prism
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you could raise the hitcap and also implement 2

vague olive
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I like 2 tbh

shadow prism
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@glacial wren it’s getting changed eventually

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hitcap is getting removed

dense girder
shadow prism
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^

lost agate
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Delete it would you?

round falcon
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^

shadow prism
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@ moderator time

dense girder
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:intensepain:

glacial wren
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Another thing that could possibly be changed, to make the fight slightly fairer is the speed of the giga blasts and the abyssal fireblasts, before they explode!

shadow prism
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would you mind deleting your previous non suggestion messages

bitter topaz
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^ pain

glacial wren
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of course I wouldn't mind:)

dense girder
bitter topaz
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i'd suggest reading the pins next time, for obvious reasons

dense girder
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making weapon suggestions in a nutshell:

shadow prism
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# suggestions_read_pins

dense girder
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click random page on the wiki until you find a one-off item HDfailure

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then suggest an upgrade HyperFailure

glacial wren
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So you don't want me to suggest boss changes?

dense girder
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No go ahead

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But suggestions is for the suggestions themselves

shadow prism
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just post it all in one message

dense girder
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Generally, keep it to one message

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And post your ideas here first

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So you can get feedback beforehand

glacial wren
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Cool, okay!

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All it is, I don't really know how to do paragraphs in one message

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That is why I posted it separately

bitter topaz
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line 1 enter + shift creates this line same as line 2

glacial wren
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Oh thanks:)

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Yeah as I was saying about the SCal Fight, I like the speed of the spikes themselves! However, I think changing the speed of both types of Blasts (Giga, Abyssal) would help slightly for players, with smaller resolutions, and players who struggle to react in time

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Absolutely your choice of course

bitter topaz
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the smaller resolution thing i can fully support, but Scal is a test of pure, mechanical skill so the second one is kinda bad

glacial wren
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Fair enough

dense girder
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Pavlopetri - Atlantis upgrade
Crafting: Atlantis + 5 Divine Geodes @ an Ancient Manipulator
How it works: Rapidly shoots tridents that, on hitting a block or enemy, blossom more tridents outwards from where they hit.

None of the unique Leviathan/Siren item drops (save for Pearl of Enthrallment) have an upgrade, so I thought it'd be cool to upgrade one of the items.
The name "Pavlopetri" comes from a sunken Greek city, similar to Atlantis except real.

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how's that sound

glacial wren
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That's quite a smart idea

upper pelican
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Mythril anvil at post-moon lord?

dense girder
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I always forget the manipulator exists

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i'm sorry

upper pelican
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Make it a ancient manipulator

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lul

dense girder
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how's that then

glacial wren
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Perfect!

upper pelican
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great

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also nice "real life lore+calamity"

dense girder
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A quick google search of "epic sunken cities" always helps

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oh wait was there a vid on pavlopetri by RLL?

upper pelican
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lol

dense girder
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no there wasn't ok me dum

ashen warren
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there can only be one ben

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you must leave

dense girder
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Ben N he's joking just in case you couldn't tell

glacial wren
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Crystallisier-Crystalline Upgrade
Crafting: Crystalline+1 Ruby+ 5 Aerialite Bars @ an Anvil
How it works: Shoots the same as the Crystalline at first, but splits twice, instead of just once. It would shoot once, split into three, split into five afterwards

I am fully aware that the Crystalline can be upgraded into the celestus endgame. However, I think there needs to be an upgrade slightly earlier to carry throwers through, and make pre-hardmode slightly easier. It would be post Hive Mind/Perforators, due to Aerialite Bars being required!

What do you think? If there is something wrong with it, please let me know

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Don't worry by the way I could tell he was joking xD

tired haven
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How the split 1 to 3 to 5 would work exactly btw? It won't end up in 15 projectiles right?

dense girder
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i dunno sounds good to me but it's still a bit early on

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oh

ashen warren
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i wasnt joking

radiant meadow
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I think the main projectile will jsut split a second time

dense girder
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I think he means it splits into 3 then it adds 2

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so 1 turns into 5

ashen warren
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we will fight to the death at dawn

upper pelican
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aerialite usage=sky mill

tired haven
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Well that could use a bit of explanation

radiant meadow
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be nice ben HyperSiren

glacial wren
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Okay, I understand the query

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Firstly, there is the main projectile!

That would split into three, like usual

After that, there would be a total of 5 more projectiles, not 5 from each of the three

radiant meadow
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so 7 total projectiles?

tired haven
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So basically main one spawns 3 and then it again spawns 5 more?

glacial wren
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Basically

radiant meadow
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oh, so 9 projectiles?

glacial wren
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Like the first one spawns a total of three. Then it would spawn a total of five

upper pelican
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just total bullet hell

ashen warren
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thats 15?

upper pelican
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noice

dense girder
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@eager ivy you're smart i like it 👍

tired haven
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Henkhenk meth is hard

glacial wren
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Correct, 9 projectiles

dense girder
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idk kids

radiant meadow
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I mean it's not like extra projectiles matter, 90% of the time, you'll hit enemies with the main projectile

dense girder
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do you think Divine Geodes work with my idea

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or should I use smth else

upper pelican
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lul

glacial wren
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Depressiodditer I think your upgrade should be pre-providence

radiant meadow
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maybe uelibloom instead maybe cuz I don't like farming providence

dense girder
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uelibloom sounds good

ashen warren
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odditer tbh your name sucks

dense girder
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yours is worse

tired haven
#

Wild utter to write Zerg Candle suggestion

dense girder
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no that's dumb

glacial wren
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I think the recipe should be:

Atlantis+5 Lunar Fragments (any type)+1 Luminite Bar

radiant meadow
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I already don't like that you have to fight providence 2-3 times in expert+ to make the armor with 1 headpiece. >.<

glacial wren
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The luminite bar would mean you would have to beat moonlord, therefore the weapon cannot be used against moonlord

radiant meadow
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1 is so pitiful though; 5 would be better

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it's important to look at other weapons as a model
cough galactic singularities are a thing cough

glacial wren
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I agree

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I said one just to signify it would be post-moonlord

radiant meadow
#

although elemental ray and genisis are good enough for post ml mage options to farm ml or battle providence

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this trident weapon might not be as good for providence without some sort of pierce-i frame immunity

glacial wren
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That is a point

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I am not entirely sure how I would modify that weapon

I just think that it should be usable straight after moonlord instead of Providence

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Just out of curiosity, how much damage would the weapon do, roughly?

radiant meadow
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why though? after providence is fine

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besides, it's not an elemental weapon which is what most things that use luminite and galactic singularities are

glacial wren
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To be honest, I can't make an educated judgement until I am fully aware of the weapon stats

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So, (damage, speed, knockback etc)

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If the weapon deals <100, then should be post moonlord!

However, if the weapon deals 130<, then it should be post-providence

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If you all feel best that it would be post providence, then that is fine by me

I wasn't trying to disagree as such, but was just offering another suggestion

round falcon
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sounds like heck to code

buoyant robin
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@glad thunder you’re aware boss suggestions are never accepted and never will be, right?

glad thunder
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Nope :)

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Great, now I know. Why?

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Are they already fully planned out or do the Dev's not want spam on how the bosses should be?

buoyant robin
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both i guess

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though i doubt they’re fully planned, they probably just have ideas for them already and such

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plus most boss suggestions don’t exactly fit into the lore

devout seal
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Yharim's already planned though

quiet abyss
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^

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Pretty much all planned bosses have their movesets either fully or mostly thought up already, though they may still subject to changes

little raptor
split hatch
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You can sell excess auric ore.

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1 gold apiece. That's a lot of money.

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At that point money should be a non-issue anyway, but there's an option.

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You didn't state a recipe for the T1000 upgrade, a name for it, and why it should be added. @ashen warren

ashen warren
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You should't write stats in your suggestion

radiant meadow
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if it's an exo magic gun, the recipe should also include other guns like effervescense, the swarmer, and alpha ray

split hatch
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See, that's a good exampme.

radiant meadow
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adding a recipe is okay

lost agate
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Adding that extra stuff is okay, just dont expect it to end up exactly as you said so

radiant pawn
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could you give an opinion of my suggestion?

radiant meadow
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well, demonshade is getting buffed next update

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it looks quite overpowered for no hits actually

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then again, most people don't no hit

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actually, forget that, it doesn't bypass caps

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still very powerful though

cyan lagoon
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But it is post scal though

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🤦

split hatch
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If it uses Shadowspec bars, then its ignored.

radiant meadow
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gotta keep boss rush in mind

jolly mirage
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And yet, sors starred it 🤔

radiant meadow
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maybe this is an exception since it feels well thought out?

split hatch
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Rules are rules.

radiant meadow
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rules are meant to be broken

split hatch
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Rules are meant to bring order... lol.

cyan lagoon
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@hollow shell ahum

ashen warren
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Tbh it would be balanced without shadowspec bars

split hatch
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🤔

radiant meadow
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true, if it bypassed rev caps, then we would have an issue

hollow shell
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RIP sorry, didn't see that in the recipe

split hatch
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25% chance of being critically hit?
Won't sit well. Remember the Blood Pact?

hollow shell
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@radiant pawn Just remove the Shadowspec Bars from the recipe, and replace with something like Auric Ore and you're good

split hatch
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With 25% chance (assuming you take triple damage on crit) you'd essentially take 50% more damage while equipped.

ashen warren
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Actually it's more a 25% chance of instantly dying

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Not any better i know

lost agate
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I mean, shadowspec is basically a traveling material, so your object would move to the next superboss if it gets added

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And thats not something good

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That and its a dev thing

ashen warren
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I suspect that the id for shadowspec bars will change to a different item along with the dev items

radiant meadow
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I think shadowspec and demonshade might stay scal tier but other dev weps might move up

lost agate
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Demonshade is dev armor isnt it?

arctic wren
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could just make it out calamitous essence...

split hatch
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DOKURO spent so much effort for SCal theme.

Then Yharim boss is up next. slobbyjoy

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Calamitous Essence's sole use is to make Shadowspec bars.

arctic wren
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I mean if shadowspec moves up

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calamitous essence almost definitely won't

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maybe you'll make some other material to make stuff out of with it, maybe not

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but calamitous essence at least isn't dev-tied afaik

split hatch
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Not a bad concept.

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As of now, it seems to be developer-tied. But in the future, with bosses coming up (hopefully) post-SCal, then maybe CE won't be tied, and can be used for other tools.

arctic wren
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I'm guessing the reason shadowspec bars even exist is two-fold

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one, because 3:1 bar:essence ratio means you don't need to kill scal 100 times to make everything given her current level of difficulty
and two, precisely so the material scal drops isn't dev-item tied

split hatch
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I think with SCal hitcap going away, she finally got the final nudge to send her over the Superboss Edge and into the Boss Pit.

lost agate
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Yeah, thats why i said its like a "traveling" ingredient @arctic wren

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It can be moved to another boss without affecting much

arctic wren
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yes

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maybe post-goozma or something

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shadowspec bars would fit goozma really well thematically

ashen warren
#

I thought goozma was confirmed to not happen?

arctic wren
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goozma is coming
eventually

split hatch
#

Wait, who the heck is Goozma?

arctic wren
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current planned progression is yharon -> draedon I'm a god, how can you kill a god -> scal -> yharim -> goozma -> unnamed secret boss who totally isn't xeroc in some way or xeroc related

ashen warren
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Goozma is a slimey lady afaik

arctic wren
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goozma and the unnamed secret boss being superbosses

worthy fiber
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Goozma isn't slimy anymore smh

ashen warren
#

Offtopic though

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Then they should change the name

arctic wren
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goozma is the last surviving member, a child, of a dead race of immensely powerful cosmic dark weaver things according to fab

ashen warren
#

goozma

worthy fiber
#

Suggest a new name LUL

signal ibex
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I thought it was a slime

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:C

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sniff

ashen warren
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@arctic wren secret boss confirmed to be xeroc by fabsol ninja edit

arctic wren
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where is the ninja edit? curious

signal ibex
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Give the guide a phantasm after DoG has been defeated.

worthy fiber
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Give the guide Astreal Defeat thonk

ashen warren
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Phangasm* YES

signal ibex
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Just give the guide heavenly gale smh.

glacial wren
#

One thing I would like to point out for post-yharon is that there should be an exotier gun

Though gunslinger is a viable option, through the majority of the game's progression, we just need one to fill in the gap

arctic wren
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there's been like 2 million exo gun suggestions

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honestly what's needed is suggestion for better post-dog guns

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so guns can be more viable against yharon

glacial wren
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That's a good point too!

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Just by studying the wiki, I agree with you

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The problem is the guns, for DoG, like the seadragon, go straight to the megafleet as their next upgrade

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The problem with the megafleet is that it is endgame

#

I have never really tried it, but would the minigun be a viable option against Yharon?

It has very high speed and damage, so maybe it would work?

ashen warren
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Dratornelius is the closest we getting to exo gun

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Sadly it's actually so good it's gonna be banned from no hitspain

arctic wren
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but it's a bow

glacial wren
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Ideally, we need an exo-tier gun and a gun for Post-DoG, but Pre-Yharon

spark ember
#

@signal ibex why make Halloween suggestions on Halloween, since even if they get implemented the very next day then it's past Halloween and doesn't make sense to be themed for it

signal ibex
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Well then.

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I feel retarded now

spark ember
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nah all g you were just thinking a year in advance right? they are for next years halloween

signal ibex
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Right.

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Imagine a zerg candle.

eager ivy
#

Plus all the other enemy spawning mechanic items would be quite interesting

spark ember
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imagine a water candle/calming candle upgrade that combined the effects

hollow shell
#

@eager ivy Bloom Stone?
Why not Plague Hive?

arctic wren
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because it's an item used in heart of the elements

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which as a bunch of other stuff which summons stuff
... as you presumably already know

hollow shell
#

Last I checked, Plaguebringers weren't humanoid

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nor was Godly Soul Artifact or Fungal Clump used in HotE's recipe

arctic wren
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true
but it kind of says why it'd use bloom stone

hollow shell
#

Bloom Stone is themed around nature and life and stuff

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not the plague

glacial wren
#

Not to sound daring or anything, but I think Cryogen needs a bit of a buff

hollow shell
#

You wouldn't be the first to think that

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Most people think it's fine though

ashen warren
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Tbh cryogen is fine atm

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There's no good summoner/throwing armour until post cryo

glacial wren
#

Cryogen is fine, I just thought maybe a few more projectiles to change it into a more intense encounter

worthy fiber
#

I need a break from WoF HDhurdur

ashen warren
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Take a break by walking backwards with B E E N A D E S

fierce iris
#

cryogen used to be an actual joke even without warmth if you knew how to fight him @glacial wren

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like just stay back and don't let him get over top of you when he tried

ashen warren
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beenades or shadowdrop staff and WoF is dead

glacial wren
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Personally, I would go mage loadout, and use the night's ray

fervent zealot
#

beenades are legally classifiable as cheese in 43 countries

glacial wren
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That is if you beaten Slime God of course

ashen warren
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"shadowdrop staff" is mage and it's way better than nights ray if you clear the top of hell

glacial wren
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Problem with the Shadowdrop Staff is that you have to keep summoning in the clouds, where as the night's ray is constant

ashen warren
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Shadowdrop isn't cloud

glacial wren
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Oh sorry

ashen warren
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It's the other hive mind weapon

glacial wren
#

I am thinking of shaderain, sorry

ashen warren
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Summons like 20 different piercing projectiles per cast

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Shreds pre-hm when you get it

glacial wren
#

For Wall Of Flesh, once the hungries are gone, the night's ray takes care of it from there, because sometimes, they can attack all three eyes at once

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However, nothing wrong with the hive mind weapons

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I think if they were used in combination, it would be utter destruction xD

ashen warren
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I'm telling ya, try the shadowdrop

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WoF downed in 1 eighth of hell in DM

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Offtopic though :/

glacial wren
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Well, if that is the case, that is phenominal

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Out of curiosity, would you make changes to any bosses, if you could?

fervent zealot
#

yes i'd remove mechs and make fishron drop all souls and trigger plant

spark flax
#

...Why, Though

ashen warren
#

Fighting fishron pre-golem sounds like suicide to me but aight

glacial wren
#

It is doable

ashen warren
#

Honestly fishron's harder than DoG, pre-golem

split hatch
#

Doggo fought pre-golem?

ashen warren
#

There

split hatch
#

Ohh.

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Fishron pre-golem > DoG in terms of difficulty.

fervent zealot
#

wronG

split hatch
#

owof

glacial wren
#

But at bare minimum , you need the best pair of wings,which would be starlight I believe, and a good ranger loadout, daedalus stormbow, with holy arrows

ashen warren
#

It only ever takes me 3 tries at the most to kill DoG while on my melee playthrough it took over 30 for fish

#

That third phase for half the health bar is stupid

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"daedalus stormbow, with holy arrows" i hate using this tbh

glacial wren
#

So do I at times, it feels kinda cheap

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But I just do it if I really have to

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I honestly feel like Daedalus Stormbow even destroys some Calamity Bosses

ashen warren
neon panther
#

it’ll get sent soon
It’s within the first 50 messages so it wouldn’t get missed tbh

worthy fiber
#

tfw 47 stars

ashen warren
#

rip

signal ibex
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Is there a upgrade for the horsemans blade in this mod.

heady comet
#

Baleful harvester

spark flax
#

its good sword

signal ibex
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Oh right

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that skeleton

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thing

spark flax
#

and then that's used to make the Exoblade

signal ibex
#

I love how the weapon is obtainable in the same tier

proven tide
#

@signal ibex Yo those are some huge images, can you shrink them a little bit? For the sake of convenience?

signal ibex
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alright

proven tide
#

coolio

lunar berry
#

why another exo bow tho @signal ibex

wanton sun
#

Seems like a ballista upgrade

quiet abyss
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"A auric tier bow that autofires 6 auric rockets"
A bow that fires rockets...now I've seen everything SirenThonk
"move 8x faster than the arrows of the marrow"
...Might as well make it hitscan then (instant travel time) slobbyjoy

tired haven
#

I mean, seadragon shoots rockets too (just not at that rate)

quiet abyss
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But that's a gun
A gun shooting rockets ain't too out of place, Vortex Beater is like that too kinda
This is a bow...even if it's seemingly a mechanically augmented one slobbyjoy

tired haven
#

If you want realism then go outside. A video game doesn't need to be realistic.

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Not sure why I argue over that ngl

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Also, these rockets are looking like rocket arrows pretty much, so they are "rockets"

radiant meadow
#

I mean, the cosmic rainbow is a bow-looking magic weapon that fires rainbows from the sky.

quiet abyss
#

slobbyjoy Let's just drop this before this turns into "Realism in video games: The discussion"

signal ibex
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R E A L I S M is non existent in this goddamn game

sleek wigeon
#

and everyone agrees

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cosmic rainbow

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is absurdly silly

signal ibex
#

Alright in order to stop a debate that has already stopped im gonna make it into a repeater

ashen warren
#

You've got an error here "A auric tier bow" it should be "An auric tier bow"

signal ibex
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Thank you, for noticing that for me.

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Also why the hell are people calling bows that are using auric ore EXO, and yes i know in the wiki that weapons crafted using auric ore, are USUALLY exo but, the word usually is there.

trim notch
#

finally a suggestions tab you're actually able to post in...

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jesus...

frigid sphinx
#

While the idea of giving auric ore more use is very good, I feel like it's not that neccesary to make another weapon
If you have been collecting the required bows the whole game then HG is easy to craft, and is more unique in what it does
Also iirc SCal and soul seekers (not sure about sepulcher and hearts, no info) is immune to all debuffs, so the weapon in it's main use is just fast rockets that deal high damage

teal shoal
#

why not an auric gun though 🤔 if we already got exo tier bow

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its like why

signal ibex
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Its a pain in the ass to craft obviously

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Besides someone suggested a auric gun already.

frigid sphinx
#

someone

marsh gust
#

^this guy and alot of other guys

signal ibex
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I was thinking of making it ignore SC's invincible mode.

teal shoal
#

you want people to skip phases?

signal ibex
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I scrapped since it was F- stupid

frigid sphinx
#

they can already do that with apotheosis

signal ibex
#

R A N G E D

teal shoal
#

just make an actual auric gun which is not an disaster of idea LUL

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thats all what we need

frigid sphinx
#

Also, think about how sad the fate of rocket launchers is
Introduced only after plantera
And kinda merged with guns after moonlord, only having a few actual launchers post-ML (and only 1 good one)

radiant meadow
#

is the good one the blissful bombardier or chicken cannon?

frigid sphinx
#

BB
Not sure about the chicken cannon (but it's probably terrible like most other yharon drops)

radiant meadow
#

chicken cannon is ranger's best option for seeker circle iirc

ashen warren
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Cause gale is terribad

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Not cause chicken is good

radiant meadow
#

I think it might be one of the better yharon drops along with nugget staff

glacial wren
#

Suggestion:

Weapon: Auric Soul
Crafting Recipe: Calamari's Lament+Ethereal Subjugator+Cosmilamp+5 Phantoplasm+5 Cosmilite Bars+50 Nightmare Fuel+50 Endothermic Energy+5 Dark Soul Fragments+ 5 Yharon Soul Fragments+15 Auric Ore

How it works: It is static in the air, like the energy staff, but is much more powerful. It will shoot spikes like the Cosmic Immaterializer, but will shoot them rapidly in a huge circle around it. If you are struggling to understand, think about the abyssal fireblasts, that Scal fire, and how they explode. This will have a similar mechanic.

Just to let you know, this is supposed to be an exo-tier sentry!

signal ibex
#

Rename it to vento aureo

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Wait no rename it to golden wind

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Auric Soul*

glacial wren
#

I don't really mind which name is used to be honest, it is just the first one I thought of

ancient dragon
#

@onyx wigeon You're probably better off suggesting that to a coder who holds interest in adding features like that. Fab's definitely not one of 'em.

onyx wigeon
#

oh well i didnt know...

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._.

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i dunno how to make mods...

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but it sounds like a good idea right?

ashen warren
#

Pressing enter by mistake instead of shift enter

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

onyx wigeon
#

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ashen warren
#

Fuckin' finally, that took a lot of writing

ruby cobalt
#

...but why?

ashen warren
#

I just wrote the reasoning lul

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I forgot to do it

ruby cobalt
#

Which is precisely why I'm asking.

#

Why?

opal barn
#

2% more damage daryl

ruby cobalt
#

You have to realize, this is 2% damage.

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2 fucking %

opal barn
#

That's like 1 damage early game

ashen warren
#

Thats the thing

#

Its still a boost

fervent zealot
#

i mean so is wulfrum

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hHHHHaha

ruby cobalt
opal barn
#

Wulfrum also gives you armor

ruby cobalt
fervent zealot
#

just go for 7% increased damage tbh

ruby cobalt
#

And fucking finally.

ashen warren
#

Okay then, if we are gonna fit it I can make them all 5% then

ruby cobalt
#

Yes, please do that, because as of now you're suggesting that people should waste an accessory slot that could be something that's used for mobility for a Spiked Shackle.

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Except it doesn't even give you 1 defense.

fervent zealot
#

5% is s till nothing

ruby cobalt
#

Not like they fucking do that either way and use HotE and Blood Pact

fervent zealot
#

go for 7%-14%

ashen warren
#

And done

opal barn
#

That would be overkill

ashen warren
#

5% is something

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14% for early LUL

ruby cobalt
#

FUCK, LOOK AT THIS

fervent zealot
#

5% is still a menancing shackle and a quarter

#

and even then, this is CLASS SPECIFIC damage, too

#

so even worse

ashen warren
#

You can make them menacing too and have more damage so

opal barn
#

Do you want 4 menacing shackles in one slot HyperFailure

ashen warren
#

Your point ???????????

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Menacing Ranger's Scarf, problem solved

fervent zealot
#

2% is bad, 5% is mediocre

ashen warren
#

Early game accessories dont cost much to reroll anyway do they

opal barn
#

9% damage in one early accessory seems fine

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or 5% damage and 4% crit

fervent zealot
#

yeah just give it more than "mediocre used for reforging accessory"

ashen warren
#

Maybe like 3% crit and 5%dmg

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I might make it more for thrower and summoner, cause they dont have many summons or throwing weapons to go with early game

ruby cobalt
#

Throwing's already stupid in early game.

fervent zealot
#

earlygame is the only point thrower DOESN'T need content for

round falcon
#

stupid,op or stupid weak

fervent zealot
#

why try when you have

beenades
grenades

ruby cobalt
#

any explosives
any piercing
bols

fervent zealot
#

a plethora of other good weapons because phm is the only place vanilla supports throwing

ashen warren
#

Over 2k letters

#

Discord please

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Finally

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5% crit and dmg on Thrower and Summoner, as others get 5% damage and 3% crit

opal barn
#

crit on summoner

ashen warren
#

Just like King Crimson

shadow prism
#

Make it so right clicking an autohammer while holding a divine geode breaks it, yielding 5-10 of any gem, including amber and crystal shards. Makes farming gems for exo components a little easier, especially amber. As for the autohammer, geodes irl can be broken by hammers and sometimes have crystals/gems inside of them.

ashen warren
#

Hey hey hey hey hey hey hey

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This is discussion

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No suggestions

opal barn
#

He posted it here to discuss it

shadow prism
#

I post here for feedback

ashen warren
#

Oh fair enough

ruby cobalt
#

Big brain.

ashen warren
#

First time in the discord

fervent zealot
#

hey hey that's a pretty decent suggestion for once

little raptor
#

needing amber on Post Plantera Hardmode

jovial spire
#

i really liek electro's sugestion

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That's a neat idea

little raptor
#

what was that ?

hidden helm
#

I’m changing something real quick

jovial spire
#

oh lol

teal shoal
#

imo its like weird

hidden helm
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I like Mood’s idea, make it so you can combine the items with the Emblems, making some pretty beefy buffs to each class

jovial spire
#

you could have just edited it lol

hidden helm
#

And add in Summoner and Thrower class emblems

jovial spire
#

There already is a summoner emblem

hidden helm
#

I know, I just kinda panicked when I misspell something

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Oh, there is?

jovial spire
#

yep

hidden helm
#

I’ve never seen it

jovial spire
#

fropped for Waffles

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liek the melee ranger and mage ones

hidden helm
#

Ah

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But no thrower emblem?

jovial spire
#

Nope

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but there is a accesoriy like one

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cant remember what it's called

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Its made with 5 leather and 10 obsidian

hidden helm
#

I’d say that adding a Thrower emblem wouldn’t be a bad idea

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So lemme summarize my idea

radiant meadow
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raider's talisman is basically a thrower emblem that is obtained earlier but needs to be "charged" with crits

hidden helm
#

Add a Thrower emblem that boosts damage by 15%, and make it so all of Mood’s accessories can be combined with their Emblem counterparts, making the boosts go into the 20%’s, but require hallowed bars and 1 soul of light, dark, flight, fright, might, and sight.

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Just to balance it out

radiant meadow
#

that would deviate from the effects of the other emblems though

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the other emblems only give dmg bonuses

hidden helm
#

Then just Damage boost by 15% for thrower

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Lemme edit that

radiant meadow
#

also, a throwing emblem suggestion has already been sent to the devs

hidden helm
#

Ah

radiant meadow
hidden helm
#

Ok, so I should leave that bit out

ashen warren
#

You should at least wait and see if my suggestion gets at least 50 votes to have your suggestion combine with mine.

hidden helm
#

Ok

ruby cobalt
#

☑ means you can just straight up delete it.

hollow shell
#

Not necessarily

ruby cobalt
#

Generally it does mean that.

#

Like "add a hitcounter to scal's hitcap"

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"exo gun"

#

You know what I'm hinting at.

hollow shell
#

If a previously sent suggestion gets 50 stars on multiple occasions, it will be noted as such on the original suggestion sent to the dev server
"Many Have Suggested"

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Shows that it's still relevant to people and such

ruby cobalt
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cyan lagoon
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@little raptor extremely vague, elaborate
@weak totem While not a perfect option, i believe the video quality settings can change how many particles are on screen

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@dreamy vine boss suggestions will not be accepted

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Sorry

dreamy vine
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oh ok

cyan lagoon
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The storm weaver technically counts as one though

dreamy vine
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technically

cyan lagoon
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you summon it in space

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but thats pretty much it

radiant meadow
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I think they mean, let the fungal clump activate spirit generator effects.

hollow shell
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@spice pier "True" Calamitas?

fervent zealot
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probably scal

spice pier
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Yeah I mean

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Yeah sure

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The not fake one

radiant meadow
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there's a reason at the beginning but the suggestion encompasses several accessories and weapons
the reasoning only really fits like the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd items

tired haven
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New bg and maybe music - just enough imho

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Chill suggestion, just realised how much I wanted more immersion for plague stuff

radiant meadow
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so like an alternative background and alternative music?

glad thunder
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I thought a music change and something like a very transparent green gas effect that covers the players screen, making it look like plague gas is coming from the plants and such

hollow shell
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@ashen warren You probably don't want to have such unrelated suggestions in one message

glad thunder
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But yeah that would really be enough. Currently it feels like if the yharon fight didn’t have a background color change or music, it would just be stupid and unfulfilling.

ashen warren
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srry about that

hollow shell
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How do I react with 1/2 of a ☑

ashen warren
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?

frosty kindle
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if only danny let :yourdidit: emote in this server

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but yeah i do believe someone made the suggestion of calamity enemy banners

brave warren
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yes

ashen warren
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yyyyeeetttt

hollow shell
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Just choose one of those suggestions you listed and expand upon it
instead of having that mess

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Any of em except the banners cuz that's already been suggested by this guy:

ashen warren
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@ashen warren i already posted suggestion about banners

gusty geode
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@ashen warren I think your suggestion violated almost every rule on suggestions there is

hollow shell
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Nah, he didn't suggest a boss or a Shadowspec item, and it's not a joke

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which is a greyer rule

gusty geode
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Also he suggested resprites, which are apparently discouraged because of how low-priority they are

dry nymph
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Any particular reason my suggestion from a month(?) ago doesn't have any reaction except stars? I thought you needed 40 for it to get forwarded to the Devs.

opal barn
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You need 50

dry nymph
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Oh. I guess people didn't like it enough. Someone named Evan, who is a mod, told me since I had 43 stars, I didn't need to repost it. Thought that meant it would be forwarded.

opal barn
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If that suggestion was old maybe it got in, they changed it pretty recently from 35 to 50

upper pelican
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I guess he just thought it would end with 50 stars

dry nymph
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When? I posted it about a month ago I think. Don't see any reactions though.

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Actually was posted in August of this year.

delicate raft
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The change was made in September.

dry nymph
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So then it was before the change. Albeit right before. It was posted on the 21st.

upper pelican
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strange

dry nymph
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Ah, well. Probably didn't get in anyway. I really hope it did though. I though it was cool. You can search from:Zekromeon in #suggestions-voting to find it if you want.

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Oh crap, was that self-adverstising?

delicate raft
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welp, if you're not sure, delete it fast

dry nymph
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Is it though? I don't want to if it isn't. Worst case scenario I get warned. Then I know. Won't if I delete it.

delicate raft
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I don't think it is.

dry nymph
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I think that is how it works here.

delicate raft
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That's like reposting so I think it's ok.

hollow shell
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Oof, a Yharim suggestion

dry nymph
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What's wrong with that?

hollow shell
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They're just
highly unlikely to get in

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and wont apply for a long time even if so

dry nymph
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I know, but I can still say what I want for a boss I've been looking forward to for quite a while, as it's when I expect to start my first Terraria series on YouTube That was self advertising.

ashen warren
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Anyone else feel like Flamethrowers and Rocket Launchers deserve more options for ammo?

Rocket Launchers just have Rockets I-IV, and Flamethrowers literally only have gel.

cloud vault
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yes they do

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Like rockets with more effects or different types of combustable things

lost agate
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Make the ore slimes drop new types of gel?

cloud vault
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I like that

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Like killing a cryo slime and get verium gel

ashen warren
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There was a suggestion a long while ago for blighted gel, purified gel and pink gel ammunition for flamethrowers

cloud vault
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so the flamethrowers are homing

ashen warren
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"so the flamethrowers are homing" This sounds like a terrible idea to me

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Well I was gonna make up my own gel/rocket ideas

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Flamethrowers would instantly become op

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It was like 2-3 months ago

lost agate
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I was thinking about a frostburn flamethrower like that

ashen warren
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They didn't get a tick or something

radiant meadow
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trophies for bosses still seem kind of op, especially with the upcoming boss rush

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and I don't know how easy that would be since most modded banners add to the vanilla spaghetti code I assume

noble violet
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like f9r farming purpises

outer marten
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Yeah I think that trophy idea is OP.

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More damage is more damage.

noble violet
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but i said 1/2..idk fabsol coukd do something

signal ibex
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D a m n my suggestion got drowned.

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and it almost got 50 stars :C

marsh gust
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47 xD

signal ibex
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would you stop sh- on my bizzare a-- bow

neon panther
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vetus dont let lilac see you
"nerf valediction"

signal ibex
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oh no.

lusty idol
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wait, this is a little off topic, but where you always able to send pictures on here?

quiet abyss
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Yes

lusty idol
shadow prism
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Add Asgardian Aegis to Celestial Tracer's crafting recipe, so you basically always have a dash and access to elysian guard. Also slightly incentivizes rev+ by saving an accessory slot.

teal shoal
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why putting an base tier itempart of it instead of highest one[asgardian aegis]

shadow prism
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mixed them up, thanks for pointing that out

hollow shell
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Jesus
Wings + Boots + Shield

ashen warren
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While adding a dash to the celestial tracers sounds epic it also sounds broken

teal shoal
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yep

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its TOO much packing accessories into 1

hollow shell
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How does the practicality of that work

You've got the most armored toes in the world

teal shoal
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give me a moment gonna count how much it is

ashen warren
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A popular accessory combo is master ninja gear + lava waders + frosty boots so you could add a ninja belt or counter scarf

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Actually counter scarf makes sense

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Kinda

teal shoal
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Asgardian=16 Celestials=8/10[depending if you count each wing or not] giving us total of 24/26 accessories into one

signal ibex
ashen warren
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Be patient

worthy fiber
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two stars left CompleteFailure

ashen warren
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It's not as if they're watching 24/7

teal shoal
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i dont get why it got 50 stars why literally bow meant for scal which inflicts debuff which is scal immune to, and also second weapon of same type for a class

signal ibex
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It still got 50 stars

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People want it.

teal shoal
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welp guess thats how it is LUL

ashen warren
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People want another ranged weapon for ranged that's viable and yours had a sprite

dull kite
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rover will send it because he is a good boy

ashen warren
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I reckon that's why

teal shoal
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imo its not going to help because due to easier crafting its gonna be worse than heavenly

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which is well not best weapon anyway

signal ibex
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Couldve made the rockets split into a nova of infinitely piercing auric lasers.

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Or exploding auric lasers.

ashen warren
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Block piercing would make it useful

teal shoal
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imo it shouldnt be strong at all, basically how it should been is diffrent gameplaywise bow weaker than H.gale and those ideas are just wanting it to become heavenly 2.0

signal ibex
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Then i was right

proven tide
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@shadow prism post-DS?

marsh gust
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theres amber crawlers tho

sleek wigeon
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@onyx wigeon ya know

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cheat sheet has a copy and paste tool

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right?

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@shadow prism cough

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amber crawlers

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cough

lost agate
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Good to know they consider ambers as gems too

hollow shell
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Feel free to ping me if something needs Checking

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I check recent suggestions just a few times a day, it's easy for stuff to go unnoticed for a while, especially if it's older

signal ibex
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Y a y

worthy fiber
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Another one of these HDhurdur

stoic narwhal
frigid sphinx
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Old tarragon helmet is current tarragon melee helmet (same situation with bloodflare), old silva helmet looked very different from current silva, and old auric tesla helmet is similar to (or same as) Yharim's helmet.
Old godslayer is the only one that was unique and would fit, but eh
Adding just one helmet as vanity? Current are much better tbh

spark flax
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Frost Nova
Enchanted by the winds of winter

What it Does: Semi-direct non-consumable upgrade to (though not made from) the Ice Star. Flings spinning blades/orbs that ignore gravity and slow to a halt as they move further out if no enemies are near. Rapidly moves after nearby enemies if there are any, dealing continual damage until they despawn (a few seconds after being thrown). Inflicts Frostburn and rarely Glacial State.

How It's Obtained: Dropped by the Ice Queen.

Why it should be added: Honestly, in my last thrown/summon-only playthrough I skipped the Frost Moon entirely, as it didn't have a single thing for either class. Now, it's no secret that Thrown doesn't have many options late hardmode save Xeroc Pitchforks, and so the Frost Moon would make a perfect point to add a new drop. Its functions are essentially a better Ice Star (which was a unique and fun to use weapon but ran out of ammo far too fast) and works well as a secondary to the Pitchforks as a result: homing and sticking around for a while makes them useful for things the Pitchforks couldn't catch by themselves!

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all opinions welcomed~

ashen warren
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Ice star is actually one of my fav throwing weapons so you've got my star

spark flax
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it's SO GOOD and deserved an upgrade, and when i was talking about skipping frost moon with thrown with the friend i've been doing a co-op run with everything just clicked and i was like I MUST SUGGEST THIS

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expect it in suggestions tomorrow when more people are online i guess!

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i was going to suggest a pumpkin moon thrown weapon as well but the only thing i could think about was 'pumpkin grenade' and between the Brackish Flask, Ballistic Poison Bomb, and Duststorm in a Bottle thrown has their pseudo-grenades that spit out shit pretty much covered

signal ibex
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Why not a upgrade using endothermic energy.

ashen warren
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I'd like to think of a summon that drops from the Ice Queen or Pumpking, but I'd have to check around all of the Calamity summons to find a semi-decent base damage.

ashen warren
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why is there a bow inside a bow

arctic wren
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bowception

onyx wigeon
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oh i didnt know cheat sheet had coppy n paste

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how to copy and paste btw?

ashen warren
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The paint tool

signal ibex
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Its intended.

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Since its a bowception.

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Also thats piskel not paint.

onyx wigeon
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oh ok ty

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i actually have never used cheat sheet

onyx wigeon
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i cant find how to copy

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nvm i found it

signal ibex
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Is there a gun post DoG thats viable against yharon?

onyx wigeon
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idk

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btw why are u here for advice?

signal ibex
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No im asking a question, in order to make sure.

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I have a mixed class.

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Post DoG weapon idea.

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Im not asking for advice.

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OH SH

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DONT

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REMOVE THAT

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RIGHT NOW!

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Oh there we go.

fierce iris
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are you quite sober, my friend?

signal ibex
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someone just commented on the suggestions and deleted it.

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Im not drunk.

shadow prism
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Either:

  1. Non-consumable celestial sigil, made from 1 celestial sigil + 5 luminite bars + 5 galactica singularities. Takes only 10 seconds to spawn ML.
  2. Buff astrum deus post ml and make him drop luminite.
  3. Make post ml astrageldon drop luminite.
hidden helm
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That’s a good suggestion. I like it.

ashen warren
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Post-ML the draedons' remote or whatever it's called

shadow prism
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that makes no sense

hidden helm
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What

shadow prism
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they’re mechs, what do they have to do with luminite

hidden helm
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^

ashen warren
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They're mechs made by a cyborg with access to almost all the materials there is

shadow prism
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astrum deus is a literal star god tho

ashen warren
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Granted it would've made more sense for them to be cosmilite but hey it was an idea

shadow prism
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that makes even less sense

ashen warren
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Astrum deus is an infection iirc

shadow prism
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cosmilite is dog exclusive and will almost definitely stay that way

ashen warren
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DoG was plated by draedon/yharim

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Cosmilite is a thing of yharim not DoG

shadow prism
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most people don’t have an issue farming doggo

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tons have issues farming ml

hidden helm
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DoG is ez

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Moon Lord is annoying

shadow prism
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ml just takes forever even with exo gear

ashen warren
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I think you're missing the point

potent vortex
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DoG is straight out gay when he spawn on top you in dm

ashen warren
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"Granted it would've made more sense for them to be cosmilite but hey it was an idea"

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Why would you make your super mech weapons out of iron when you have a metal that is nigh indestructible?

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I always thought this was an oversight

lost agate
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@potent vortex but its gonna fixed, oh yish

hidden helm
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They’re made out of Hallowed I thought

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Like the hallowed bars and stuff

ashen warren
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Looks nothing like hallowed metal

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It looks like steel actually not iron but whatever

signal ibex
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How about resprite the mechanical bosses.

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to make them hallow themed

worthy fiber
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Do that yourself

signal ibex
worthy fiber
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Another music toggle suggestion HDhurdur

lost agate
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Music boxes smh

shadow prism
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Does craftable luminite made from astral ore + phantoplasm make any sense at all

signal ibex
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N o

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Phantoplasm is G H O S T

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Ah F- the DOG

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Drops

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Two throwing weapons

opal barn
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I think only a couple of Exo-weapons inflict Exo-freeze

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Doesn't make sense for a post-dog weapon to inflict it imo

night cradle
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It's already in Fargo Mod, IMKSushi or Lufaik.

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The Moon Lord Instant summon iirc

signal ibex
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But what about people who don't have enough space to use other mods?

lost agate
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Commit better pc

signal ibex
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but what if they don't have money?

rugged finch
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Fab decides the stats

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@lucid marsh

opal barn
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Why did you repost this @signal ibex

signal ibex
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Changed.

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something.

opal barn
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All I see is that you didn't change the exo freeze

worthy fiber
split hatch
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What confuses me is these weapons made with endothermic energy and excluding nightmare fuel. They are mutually inclusive, meaning if one's there the other is too.

jovial spire
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^

sleek wigeon
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Whats wrong with changing that?

shadow prism
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Unholy Flame
The very essence of the profaned flame
Not consumable
Made from 50 unholy essence + 10 divine geodes + [5 profaned shards + 3 consumable unholy cores + 1 rune of kos (these can all be changed if they don’t fit)] at a Draedon’s forge

Summons buffed version of all three sentinels at the same time, like Draedon’s Remote.
The reward is either nothing or maybe a special item, bit of lore or something else.
This would just be a neat addition and fun challenge, and would give post-DoG players a bit more to do.

fervent zealot
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dev paintings

signal ibex
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But yharon, and SCAL

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Electro.

shadow prism
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why do you capitalize scal

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also I know