suggestions-discussion

[bright flame]

dps meter? I'd still opt for early-mid HM mats, tbh, and you're already using a dps meter for something else

[shadow prism]

my recipe is at any anvil

[echo night]

wait wut

[shadow prism]

also how hard is it to buy 2 meters, though I agree it should use something else

1 halibut cannon

[sleek wigeon]

money is fucking tight early game

[shadow prism]

not on dm

I had multiple plat after eoc

[hollow shell]

fuck dm

[echo night]

meh in rev and dm its not that tight

[sleek wigeon]

Nothings tight on deathmode except your butt

[echo night]

Lmao

[hollow shell]

Yeah just change the DPS Meter to Victory Shards
or just nothing, like the current recipe

Target Dummy at an Anvil

[echo night]

why not something like target dummy + 5life crystal ?

[hollow shell]

Because wtf

[echo night]

at like mythril or orichalcum or whatever its called

[hollow shell]

That's 5 life crystals

[sleek wigeon]

^

life crystals are not a renewable resource

[hollow shell]

well they are

they just suck

to get

[echo night]

at post WoF you have all of your life

[tired haven]

Post-skelly they are renewable but eh

[shadow prism]

it’s now copper/tin

[sleek wigeon]

Yeah but you need to outfit your arenas with shit

[bright flame]

life crystals are excessively common, but I still say hardmode materials...

[shadow prism]

though I really want it to be living shards or cores

[sleek wigeon]

living shards would be hella flavorful

[echo night]

so why not use it since Super dummy have the habilety to act like a monster

[sleek wigeon]

i like that

[lost agate]

Or just random enemy stuff, because super dummy acts like an enemy

[echo night]

its like you use life heart to make them ''alive''

[sleek wigeon]

what about target dummy + red dye?

[hollow shell]

Living Shards is a cool idea
but that'd put them Post-Plantera

and people would want to be DPS testing for that fight

[shadow prism]

nothing else makes sense tho

[sleek wigeon]

since they have the target on their face

[shadow prism]

besides cores

[sleek wigeon]

Red dye is easy to get, has flavor, and makes sense

[shadow prism]

maybe 1 of each essence?

and souls of light/night

[hollow shell]

1 Ruby

[tired haven]

Red dye is not really easy to get tbh

[echo night]

curently its post like DoG so people wont complain if its now post plantera

[tired haven]

You need rare spawn in caves

Which is rarer than life crystal lul

[sleek wigeon]

Do you not have giant box farms in your world?

[shadow prism]

just make it require halibut smh

no

[sleek wigeon]

theres yer problem

[shadow prism]

I use zerg

[tired haven]

Not prehm

Box is hell to dig out with prehm stuff

[sleek wigeon]

dynamite mate

[shadow prism]

maybe 5 mech souls

[tired haven]

5 Souls of night tbh

[echo night]

i dont know why you would want to test the so little amount of weapons that give a special bonus on weapons pre plantera

[hollow shell]

How bout no extra ingredient plz

Just Dummy @ Iron Anvil

[tired haven]

No
i mean yes

[echo night]

i think living shard is just perfect

[shadow prism]

living shards makes sense and is good progression wise

plantera is one of the points where the game opens up a lot

[tired haven]

Good idea kaiser but specify a bit tbh

[shadow prism]

hence the need for dps testing

[echo night]

calamity item require to make a calamity dummy and it fits with the bonus of the dummy

[sleek wigeon]

Dummy + ruby is good comprimise

[hollow shell]

There are more than a few weapons before Plantera with homing and on-hit effects

[bright flame]

I'd say dummy+living shard or ashes of calamity, for those of us who think cal is easier to kill than plantera...

[shadow prism]

no

no ashes

[tired haven]

Just put super dummy in starter bag tbh

[echo night]

for me theres nothing better than living shard

[shadow prism]

calamitous essence

[echo night]

theres no other ingredient that fits better

[bright flame]

I didn't say shard and ashes... I said shard or ashes... one or the other...

[shadow prism]

I have ptsd from clone, apologies

[echo night]

meh the point of having the living shard is because you put life to make your dummy a ''monster''

living shards is just the perfect fit

[shadow prism]

just make the Draedon’s remote stuff drop a crapton of hallowed bars and souls

so you can do it if you need mats for exo weapons or whatever

[hollow shell]

I just noticed that Draedon's Remote recipe requires Meld Blobs
and Meld Bars are crafted with Hallowed Bars

It's all coming together

[bright flame]

what is, in particular?

[shadow prism]

it uses souls of light/night instead of might/sight/fright, angery

[uneven spoke]

meld bars is just hallowed bars painted red and blue confirmed

[hollow shell]

Well, the Mech Boss Summoning items require Souls of Light/Night

[brave warren]

pins b

[ashen warren]

I asked what ✅ meant without checking pins like a big meme ^

I really need to do that more often

[shadow prism]

[ashen warren]

[alpine garnet]

don't take it too hard, nobody checks pins here

[ashen warren]

Indeed

[proven tide]

oboi

[neon panther]

food mod birb eggs

[brave warren]

scrambled yharon egg

[bright flame]

my main gripe with this suggestion dump is "indestructible" altar...

[proven tide]

Well, if you break it, you'll have to use the Starcore summon item because there'd be no way for it to spawn naturally

[bright flame]

like the one unbreakable altar in... tremor, I think... this will present an annoyance to terraformers...
I'd say more like lihzard altar... you can break it with a stronger pickaxe than you currently have, and it's placeable...

[proven tide]

The idea is that it's not just a block, it's a structure

Around the size of the underground shrines

[hollow shell]

Geez @brittle folio did a Harpy Ring kill your parents?

[proven tide]

^

Feel free to type up your own ideas or edits in the document, so a collection of ideas are all visible in the same spot @bright flame

[hollow shell]

Its crafting recipe is really cheap and +20% movement speed, as well as the increased flight time for those Aerialite Wings, is nothin to bat an eye at

[sleek wigeon]

75%

[proven tide]

+75% movement speed on a player who's probably got the Frostspark Boots (31mph) puts you at 54mph without buffs

[sleek wigeon]

you fucking wot

[proven tide]

which is fucking ridiculous

[sleek wigeon]

Well no

[proven tide]

Pre-Skeletron it is

[sleek wigeon]

Max speed and movement speed are different things

technically

[proven tide]

hmm

[bright flame]

I might have something to get feedback on before posting...

[sleek wigeon]

hermes boots kinda caps your speed. But still its an absurd number

could just make it so harpy ring adds +20% to your max speed

[proven tide]

ay Kaiser if you have your own ideas on the boss summons please put them in the document it's a bit of a collab suggestion already

[vital grotto]

bumblebirb egg omlette

with some tarragon cilantro

and salt from the bottom of the abyss

[ashen warren]

Calamity mod foods that act as buff combinations

For all the classes respectively

[bright flame]

Would anyone be on board with any of the following clentaminator ideas?

1. a drenching solution convert dirt to mud and solidify lava (but not pierce more than 2 blocks of obsidian)
2. an arid wind canister to dry mud with a short range, less block piercing, slight knockback applied rapidly, and a very low consumption rate
3. a late-game conflagration solution to deal comparatively high damage and a burn status effect, but comes with a very blatant warning label due to drawbacks such as...

• slightly shorter range
• melting all vanilla stone blocks on contact
• scorching dirt and mud to ash
• burning ropes, chains, platforms, walls, and most decorative/building blocks except for hardmode metal bars, crafting/buff stations, storage, and anything that needs a picksaw or superior pick to nothing
• dripping from the first thing they hit to something else cause more damage or destruction

[ashen warren]

Why would these need to be added?

[proven tide]

#3 sounds like a recipe for disaster

also that

[ashen warren]

The only one i'm remotely interested is the drenching one solely because of jungle

[bright flame]

yeah... sure... you're right about lack of necessity... rapid jungling/mud conversion is more a QoL feature

[ashen warren]

Besides, solutions mod and luiafk exist

[bright flame]

and that last one doesn't function for much of anything except trolling and nihilism (not the mod) tbh...

[real parrot]

so, i just saw the Fist of the World suggestion

is good

[gusty geode]

Warning: text wall
This is just idle spit-balling, but ever notice how vanilla Summoners always get their armor from weirdly exotic places?
First you have the Bee Armor, which you get from killing an otherwise optional and relatively pointless boss (Queen Bee)
Then once Hardmode begins, you're sent to the Spider Caves of all places to get Spider Armor
Once in post-Plantera you make use of the only full armor set in the entire game (iirc) that you buy from someone, the Pygmy Armor; and not long afterwards replace it with Spooky Armor, which you can only get after killing several truckloads of Mourning Woods and/or Splinterlings; the only time class progression ever makes the holiday events mandatory (because I imagine Spooky is much better than Pygmy)
All of Calamity's armor sets have fairly straight-forward ways to obtain them, so maybe if players had to put more effort/thought into getting them, it would make the whole experience more exciting.

[quiet abyss]

@eager ivy Put "Maybe slightly more Spin Time to make up for slightly less damage" into the main post
Otherwise that part won't get sent to the devs if it did reach 50 stars and got ported

[eager ivy]

done :3

[quiet abyss]

👍

[lost agate]

@ashen warren aligning the blast that well is what may be OP

[ashen warren]

He spawns stacked

Spawn on a platform and he's cake

I feel like Nimbus rod should be nerfed vs destroyer too

If you position him just right the raindrops shred him

[lost agate]

Tbh, the spawnkill thing is just cheese

[ashen warren]

That requires skill

Nvm got a better suggestion

[lost agate]

Then the weapon isnt the OP thing

[ruby cobalt]

Hmmm, Fetid Baghnakhs do the same thing, gotta nerf them too

[lost agate]

And nimbus

[ruby cobalt]

Also probably should nerf every fucking piercing weapon along the way because this ain't right, chief

[lost agate]

Ikr

[ashen warren]

"Make The Destroyer immune to damage for the first 2-3 seconds of the fight to prevent cheese mechanics

Reason: So The Destroyer actually has SOME difficulty" how about this?

[quiet abyss]

Might as well just instead increase Destroyer's piercing resist even more instead of nerfing all those weapons

...Or that, ye

That's a lot better

[ashen warren]

Should I replace or send another message?

[quiet abyss]

Replace

...Well actually

New message

[ashen warren]

Donezo

[lost agate]

Its a good suggestion since destroyer nerf is right around the corner

Because they gonna remove some projectiles

[ashen warren]

It's your own fault for putting it on ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow shell]

@river night Music boxes are implemented as they're sprited. They're all coming eventually

also jesus christ man

[river night]

What?

[marsh gust]

that's alot

[river night]

I mean. They are good suggestions I think. And I have way to much time on my hands (and insanity) - I end up thinking about shit like this. < _ <

[vital grotto]

yeah

you should really split up your suggestion

[night cradle]

^

[vital grotto]

dont wanna be that guy but

pins say it's a good idea to do so

to make it easier to read and maybe ppeople dont agree with all the suggestions and stuff

[river night]

not.. entirely sure how to do so. so... ive said my piece. x.x

[hollow shell]

As in
send them over a longer period of time

Save em in a file somewhere
and send like 2 a day

So it's not just a wall of that

(also please don't link wiki pages in that channel, that's a lot of wasted space)

@river night

And, for the future, try and keep each of your suggestions contained in their own messages

Don't send an anecdote or reasoning for a suggestion in a separate message after you suggest something
That just makes it harder to star

[spark flax]

yeah, agreed, plus it pushes other suggestions all the way up the chat so less people will read

also, try to keep relevant things in one suggestion instead of adding unneccessary extra comments i.e. the mention of razorblade typhoon

oh hey we both said the same thing

[hollow shell]

(gets the point across better) :P

[lunar berry]

@inner rover idk boi sounds so much like a meme to me

[pine shale]

@river night All the furniture sets are already complete. Torches are not a component to a set, I'm not entirely sure why it is listed as a part on the wiki

[inner rover]

Moldy ghost let's put it this way. I could not think of any other fitting name.

[ancient dragon]

Tearjerker Slice/Chopper/etc.

Smh just make a Black Sabbath one so we can have the "You have two paths to follow" quote as a tooltip already.

[signal ibex]

Right

You just gave me a goddamn idea

[ancient dragon]

👏

[thin nymph]

How u make it thi?

[ancient dragon]

So Luminite bullets?

[spark flax]

Unrelenting Void
Calls upon the power of the seething emptiness

What It Does: Sentry-type summon weapon. Summons a stationary miniature Ceaseless Void that fires wave pulses of dark energy in a circle around it whenever an enemy is near, as well as long-range homing lasers at enemies (up to just over a screen length away).

How It's Made: 5 Dark Plasma, 15 Ashes of Calamity, 8 Cosmilite Bars @ Draedon's Forge

Why it should be added: Sentries are underrepresented in both vanilla and Calamity, which is kind of a shame, and the only post-moonlord sentry is immediately after Moonie, so it doesn't really get much time to shine.
A friendly Ceaseless Void seems like the most fitting flavor choice for a sentry, and the homing lasers and void pulses are inspired by its attacks and theming respectively, making it a unique choice for Summoners in particular and rewarding keeping enemies near a certain area, while still having things it can do to enemies outside that range (unlike the Energy Staff, which has barely a half-screen targeting ability.)

gonna be reposting this tomorrow, any feedback before i do so is welcomed!

[ashen warren]

Tbh sentries aren't used much because they're basically worthless against bosses

Especially at DoG level

And I don't know about others but when I did a dm summoner playthrough using the dreadmine staff was a great way to get distracted and die so I hated the entire time I had to use it

[spark flax]

i guess, but what if... a sentry that was actually good

[worthy fiber]

I wouldn't say "worthless"

For one, they're really useful during the SG fight

And you should try getting less distracted

[ashen warren]

Slime god?

[worthy fiber]

Ye

[ashen warren]

If you're using sentries against slime god then yes they're good since dreadmine staff is post cal

Besides, halibut = easy win

[spark flax]

using halibut

[ashen warren]

whoops

Meant herring

About getting distracted:
Keeping note of where enemies are
Keeping note of where projectiles are
Keeping note of where minions are
Dodging to build Adrenaline
Dodging in a confined area so dreadmines actually hit
Counting when I have Adrenaline so I don't waste it
Timing Golden Gun/Everglade Spray
Timing Rod of Discord
Timing Slime mount
Right clicking the minion buff to resummon on fast bosses (killed me the most)

Getting distracted is pretty easy even though individually they're not hard at all

[signal ibex]

Black sabbath as a sentry

[signal ibex]

Y E S

The fist of platinum

Has reached over 50 stars

The rod of accord is like D4C

There we go

Its has 50 stars now

[spark flax]

oh hey RoA hit 50, nice

[proven tide]

as did fists of platinum uwu

congrat

[signal ibex]

The first jojo suggestion that i saw get 50 stars

[night cradle]

I mean, cheesing first boss isn't very dirty

[ashen warren]

but cheesing king slime is very easy

just place 35 ropes above ground and done

you need to make it fair

wot

[bitter topaz]

smh cheesing KS is as easy as moving iirc

[night cradle]

nevermind, just me being as always

[ashen warren]

lmao

[crisp osprey]

@signal ibex so many jojo references
i like it

[dense girder]

@hollow shell hello there friend could we got some ⭐s ty

[tired haven]

Me: why can't I hold all these king slime ai changes?

[dense girder]

i just saw "crabulon buff" and my brain went "nyoom"

[ashen warren]

looks like mother slime

cool

[worthy fiber]

@ashen warren Folks are already working on those in the art server

They're likely to be added, eventually

[ashen warren]

omg really?! im so hype for the update, and i cant wait to the see them! everyone is doing such a good job on this mod tbh

[worthy fiber]

Wait, not this update yet

[ashen warren]

ok as long as were getting them at some point right?

[worthy fiber]

Ye, likely

[ashen warren]

ok thx

[worthy fiber]

Here's the plague, btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459252132068065280/498496902170542090/PlaguedPlateFurniture.gif

[ashen warren]

woooooow thats amazing

[worthy fiber]

I think it's the one that'll be put in

[ashen warren]

will it be made with plague canisters

[worthy fiber]

Probably

[ashen warren]

is the auric tesla furniture gonna be added or just the plague stuff

[shadow prism]

Bloodstone brick and brick wall would be nice (without a corresponding furniture set, like the calamity ores)

[worthy fiber]

Auric's in progress right now, I think they'll get all the sets they want done first

Then they'll be sent to Fab

[ashen warren]

ok im sure itll come out very amazingly

[worthy fiber]

Indeed

[ashen warren]

cant wait to see them in game

thanks for the answer btw

[worthy fiber]

np

[pine shale]

Plague furniture should be in this update, along with some much needed fixes to the current furniture

Other sets will take a while though

[pine shale]

Bloodstone tiles are being worked on atm

[shadow prism]

oh ok

[pine shale]

It's nice to know there is a demand though, just though it would be useful to notify you that they are a thing conceptwise

[shadow prism]

thanks for the info

[hollow shell]

@woven salmon Astral Arcanum?

[woven salmon]

whats that

[hollow shell]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Astral_Arcanum

It allows you to teleport to places

Post-ML accessory

[woven salmon]

oh

im dumb

[hollow shell]

The wormhole-like map idea is cool, but we don't really have a place in the game to put it

[digital sparrow]

n o t i n m p

[dense girder]

@woven salmon if that isn't the worst suggestion i've ever seen aside from "bring back the lorde" i'll be damned

that has no point other than to grief servers if they're unbreakable dirt blocks

[woven salmon]

bro

i mean unharvestable

like

when you break it

you dont get anything

[dense girder]

that still leaves a giant mess to clean up afterwards

platforms and wings render that almost entirely redundant

[woven salmon]

u can use it to bridge gaps or make skybridges

or pillar up super fast

[dense girder]

at the point in the game where you can make them, you already can make wings, so skybridges aren't necessary

same for pillars

you can fly, double/triple/quadruple jump

in recreational use it's dumb as all heck because you make a pillar, have to clean it up, fly back up and hey presto, new pillar to clean up

you didn't entirely think this through

[woven salmon]

well remember

its a held item

not an accessory

[dense girder]

it is still rendered almost entirely dumdum by wings because you don't need dirt blocks everywhere in your world

[woven salmon]

ok what if i made it prehardmode

[dense girder]

you would still need 3996 dirt which is a hell of a lot of landscaping

[woven salmon]

and reduced the materials needed

[dense girder]

that's about 3-4 hellevators' worth on a large world

[woven salmon]

or make it so that it builds with the blocks in ur inventory

[dense girder]

well that last bit is infinitely worse but if you reduced the materials maybe

[sleek furnace]

why not just make it platforms instead of dirt?

[dense girder]

that's even worse

platforms can't be smart cursored

[low hedge]

could always have an option to remove all placed blocks

[dense girder]

so you have to mine them individually

aleksh yes

[woven salmon]

good idea

[sleek furnace]

thing is, its for sky bridges is it not? youd be able to actually make arenas with platforms

dirt blocks youll have to RoD through

[woven salmon]

maybe u could choose what block to build with with an interface like the grand design

[lost agate]

At this point this sounds like something luiafk has

Wait, i think it does

[dense girder]

yeah, the platform thing

[woven salmon]

arena builder

[dense girder]

platform builder iirc

arena builder yes

[lost agate]

I rather install the mod than wait for this to be a thing

[dense girder]

@woven salmon so are you gonna change the crafting station and material count or

[woven salmon]

oh yea

[dense girder]

also you might want to add that idea aleksh had

a way to destroy all placed blocks

so that it doesn't become annoying as heck to clean up

[fervent zealot]

meme suggestion @cobalt kernel

delet before a mod consumes your very existance

[cobalt kernel]

its not a meme suggestion though

[fervent zealot]

most people on the server, mods included, see that as a meme suggestion

[hollow shell]

Looks a bit like it though

[cobalt kernel]

but its not a meme suggestion. I'm seriously suggesting it

[hollow shell]

You could try to elaborate on the method of obtaining and more on why it would be a good addition to the mod

[vague olive]

I dont think its one

[hollow shell]

and it might be considered lefit

[cobalt kernel]

ill do that.

[hollow shell]

Well, you followed through

[dull kite]

@fervent zealot instead of doing that, ping a mod if you think it’s a meme suggestion

also it kinda does look like a joke suggestion

[cobalt kernel]

well its not

its serious

[dull kite]

I noticed that

[hollow shell]

I'd say that it's not a
serious suggestion

It'd be a funny item but it's not
meme

[cobalt kernel]

If terraria has period jokes, a maid outfit doesnt seem too bad, huh?

[neon panther]

I mean one person once suggested NPC's to say "We must save my family!" as a reference to SAO abridged, and it wasn't considered a meme, so I think that's fine too

[bitter topaz]

using heavenly gale against scal

nice suggestion though, i'd specify it shouldn't pierce personally because then it'd just be another useless option against her

[digital sparrow]

yeah good point there

[ashen warren]

Hey, my first SCal kill was with the Gale and Photovicerator.

[bitter topaz]

the hearts, brothers etc. all have pierce resistance now iirc

which is why the exo tier stuff ranger is, sub-par to say the least

[lunar berry]

@jolly mirage well its too op
You can be immune to flames
Maybe 25

[jolly mirage]

I don't agree with lowering the max health, since that doesn't fix the problem you outline of the fact that you can be immune to Brimstone Flames. How about it inflicts a unique debuff instead, one that you can't get immunity to without Purified Jam or something?

[lunar berry]

Hey I fricken won
You have stopped writing haikus
Lol lol lol lol lol

Thats a good idea
the debuff idea i mean
I am renamed ‘’

[ashen warren]

devs buff leviathan, he is so gay and boring, didnt drop under 500hp expert reveangance

give him more moves and phases

waste of time rofl

[opal barn]

Read changelogs

[ashen warren]

thats still gay

just 1 charge

make it more not gay

[radiant meadow]

do you even know how the charge is going to work?

[ashen warren]

oh and also buff lunatic cultist if you can

After Plantera I beat Lunatic Cultist, legit skipped like 5 bosses

[round falcon]

what do you want changed specifically

[ashen warren]

he hasnt even put me under 500hp

More damage

Deadly

[tired haven]

what difficulty?

[round falcon]

he's in rev

allegedly

you usin any mods to 🧀

[ashen warren]

me?

[tired haven]

I mean cultist is already buffed from miniboss to somewhat comeptitive shit

[round falcon]

no im talkin to the guy that slashed every boss to death, yes i mean you

[ashen warren]

No

I use calamity, fargos, alchemist npc, vein miner

[round falcon]

are you using the version in the discord

[ashen warren]

yes

[round falcon]

alchnpc big ♿

[ashen warren]

and recipe browser

yes

[round falcon]

i dont have time to explain how you should go about suggesting boss suggestions, caligulas is spamming oatmeal remixes so ill just say

[tired haven]

Using full buff candelabra is not one way you judge boss difficulty with

[ashen warren]

I dont go around reading 5 million articles

[shadow prism]

Buff Sulphuric Acid Cannon and Eidolic Wail
Massively increase Sulphuric’s rate of fire and projectile velocity, and make the acid bubbles stack additively like lionfish.

Decrease the amount of time it takes for Wail’s projectiles to reach full size, and slightly increase its fire rate as well.

Soul Edge is a pretty decent melee weapon, Calamari’s Lament is a rare non-piercing summon, and Valediction needs no introduction. But as far as I know, almost no one uses Sulphuric or Wail. Rangers have seadragon for DoG, and while I don’t know exactly what mages use, I’m pretty sure it isn’t Wail.

[bitter topaz]

the acid cannon was nerfed a while back against DoG, but i agree it needs a buff to bring it back to being somewhat relevant

and mages use mistlestorm + aether's whisper iirc

nothing but a full-on overhaul of the wail will make it useful, though

[shadow prism]

If it rapidly fired full-size Wail projectiles that locked onto enemies it would be good

But probably extremely broken

[cyan lagoon]

@vague laurel I think they already did that

[vague laurel]

In the changelogs?

[cyan lagoon]

Pretty much in the first one

Since Astral overhaul

[vague laurel]

Oh

Should I leave it there anyways just incase?

[cyan lagoon]

🤷

doesn't really matter

[lost agate]

If anything, the only way to buff eidolic wail without a rework is making it pre polter somehow

Because people fight polter on a closed space smh

[jovial spire]

Well, there are legendary weapons, so possibly a legendary armor set? Each Hm and up boss could have a 10% chance of dropping 1 piece of the set. It wouldnt be as good or the same teir as other avalible armors, but like legendary wepons it would get more powerful as you kill more bosses

[lunar berry]

Nit anymore

[lost agate]

Legs dont do that anymore

[jovial spire]

Oh thay dont

[spark flax]

except Community

[ashen warren]

Yeah, that changed. Kinda sad imo, scaling items are a nice reward for rare drops like them

[jovial spire]

why dont they anymore?

[lost agate]

So, your suggestion is basically an underwhelming armor as of now

@jovial spire too op

[lunar berry]

Yea

[jovial spire]

or they could have nerfed all of them but whatever

[ashen warren]

yeah, very few legendary items are useful anymore, if any of them

[lunar berry]

Too much coding

[jovial spire]

not my mod

ahve to deal with it

[ashen warren]

Can we get some post moon lord events yo

[jovial spire]

fab said no, at least not untill alot of other stuff is done

its hard to code

[ashen warren]

ah

sad

dying inside

[jovial spire]

there mots likely eventually will be one, just not anytime soon

[ashen warren]

wanting to jump off a cliff

jk

[tired haven]

Tbh I won't mind old auric helmet as legendary armor piece

[lunar berry]

Hm

So

All bonuses of past armors

Seems way too op

[tired haven]

Old auric was weaker than current one smh

Though it was multiclass tbf

[lunar berry]

But...but...+7 minions...

And other bonuses

[radiant meadow]

maybe as a vanity at least

[jovial spire]

has anyone suggested having multiclass helmets yet to be craftable along with the class helms?

i.e., a multiclass victide helm, multiclass tarragon, etc

or wait

maybe

each helm could drop off its rescective thing

[radiant meadow]

you mean a return of the older helmets?

maybe also include really old stuff like when daedalus was just a ranger set

[jovial spire]

i.e., multi victide from DS/ DrySeahore, multi tarragon from provi, etc

get mmuylti silva from mothron

*multi

[tired haven]

Maybe from birb?

[jovial spire]

buffed one ofc

nah thats way to eaily imo

[tired haven]

mothron is tons easier than birb smh

[jovial spire]

*early

[tired haven]

O

Well gotta love em godslayer after 1.5 bosses basically still

[jovial spire]

So yeah i thinks its a good idea ofc i do i made it up, what do you think overall?

[tired haven]

Well not like it will get in but I like it

[jovial spire]

dont worry i'll just make 50 alts

[tired haven]

Why do 50 alts when you have to do 1 fab alt

[jovial spire]

lol

Does 20% from DS and 3% from dry horse sound good for that drop rate?

[proven tide]

Dry horse?

[jovial spire]

shti didnt mean to post that yet

Cninderian

[proven tide]

... Cnidrion?

[jovial spire]

yeah

My idea is that you could get the multiclass helm from certain enemies/bosses. To balance them, they would have less powerful set bounuses and would give less damage, along with less defence that every helmet exept the summoner and thrower ones. You would get the multiclass:
Wulfrum Helm from Wulfrum slime ot drone (1%)
Victide Helm from Desert Scourge (20%) or Cnidrion (3%).
Aerospec Helm from Harpy (1%) After Perferaters/Hive mind has been killed.
Statigel Helm from Slime Gods (20%) or blighted slimes (1%) after the Slime Gods have been killed.
Daedalus Helm from Cryogen (20%) or underground ice biome enemies (0.1%) after Cryogen has died.
Reaver Helm from cavren enemies (0.5%) after Plantera has died.
Atexia Helm from Abyss enemies (0.5% first layer, 1% second layer, and 3% third layer and below) after gloem has died.
Tarragon Helm from Provodence (25%), profaned guardians (4% chance for each one) after Providence has died, and jungle enemies (0.1%) After Providence has died.
Bloodflare Helm from Polterghast (25%), Brimstone Elemental (6%) after Polterghast has died, ravager (6%) after Polterghast has died, and blood moon enemies (0.1%) after Polterghast has died.
God Slayer Helm from Devourer of Gods (25%), or one of his sentinals (5%) after Devourer of Gods has died.
Silva Helm from Buffed Mothron (8%), Buffed Solar Eclipse ememies (0.1%), or Bumblebirb (12%) after Yharon's first phase has been completed.
Auric Tesla Helm From Yharon 2nd Phase (10%), Bumblebirb (4%), and Devourer of Gods (2%).
These are just suggestions for drop rates and what they drop from mainly.

Opinions?

Any drop rates I should take away/add, any drop rates i should increase/reduce?

[proven tide]

Remove the "you would get the" from each line

Frankly it takes up excess space ._.

[jovial spire]

kk

[ashen warren]

You can get shpc literally right after WoF with death valley duster

[jovial spire]

^

[ashen warren]

Then you can solo with shpc nearly every boss until plant

[radiant meadow]

I assume auric tesla helm is only dropped post yharon phase 2 for birb and dog?

[jovial spire]

yes

lemme add that

[ashen warren]

Tbh I really don't like multi-class and I tend to be against most omni damage suggestions and whatnot

It's also really op

[radiant meadow]

also, multi-class astral helm is already a thing

well, kind-of

[ashen warren]

Doesn't work for summoner

[jovial spire]

oh yeah

[radiant meadow]

the set bonus is pretty bad anyways with the cooldown

[tired haven]

SHPC is nowhere near weak lol
Just use deific with it and you can use it up to Golem

[jovial spire]

lemme romove multiclass astral

Well the bounuses wouldnt be that powerful

@ashen warren

[ashen warren]

I think

[jovial spire]

Anyways any more things?

[ashen warren]

The best way to balance it is to have very few "unique" things that happen on armours

Since most of that is coming from using all weapons and you don't need to worry about that stuff

Reaver making projectiles asplode wouldn't happen anymore for example

[jovial spire]

huh

good idea

[ashen warren]

Or like astral

SHPC cant deal good damage to brimmy lul

Very minor armour set things

shpc is my main damage dealer against brimmy with right click and don't spam emotes

[marsh gust]

i could use SHPC up till LC in DM lel

[jovial spire]

Well if there nothinh more i shuld change, i'll post it to suggestions

Is there?

well im gonna post it

[hollow shell]

You might wanna put "(classless)" or "(True)" after saying multiclass
just so it's more clear

[round falcon]

i reccomend lowering ravager's as people farm it anyways

[jovial spire]

okie

[round falcon]

also wheres clonelamitas, she also gets buffed post provi

to drop bloodstone

[jovial spire]

I would have incuded that

but 2,000 character limit

[round falcon]

you can cut most of the "after [blank] has died".

at the very least to post-[name]

[jovial spire]

i mainly wanted it to sounds professinal

[tropic shadow]

i have an idea of a new biome, the ruined city! enemies: ghoul, HP: 60, abandoned building structures, some containing chests with loot you would find underground, a rare chance of getting a ghoul hook, streetlights act as trees, cutting them down gives 2 iron ore or 2 lead ore, buildings are made of marble brick, looking destroyed, ghoul drops: 1 silver coin, 20 copper coins, rare chance of getting ghoul guts, which increases damage by 10%, but enemy's are more likely to target you, town npc: friendly ghoul, selling lots of ghoul themed items, i'm thinking the music could sound like a slurred version of the corruption theme

[jovial spire]

No biome suggestions

not my words, fab's

and i agree tbh

there's already 3 new biomes

wait no 2

wait or is it 3

[neon panther]

astral meteor, brimstone crags, sulphuric sea, abyss

[jovial spire]

and honestly to me it doesnt really fit

[neon panther]

4

[jovial spire]

okie yeah 4

i was wrong either way

i mean with the lore and shit

it just dont make sense imo

It sounds like a fialy cool idea, just nopt for calamity

*fairly

[tropic shadow]

oh, thanks for saying it was cool! 😃

[cyan lagoon]

Where did you get that?

He did not say biome suggestions are disallowed

He only said that they are too much work to implement functionally.

[fervent zealot]

already coming @echo night

[frosty kindle]

put a blue check on it.

[fervent zealot]

woah did you do a new thing?

[heady comet]

Tbh being hit often while shes doing that is kinda sad though ngl

[fervent zealot]

do you need someone to write a post for you to pin what it means

ah i see it's nto a new thing

and i'm just behind the tims like always

[heady comet]

the tims

[fervent zealot]

my e key breaks half the time

in fact half of my keyboard is broken

[chilly lake]

yall need to make a pin that explains all the abreiviations you use like ngl and iirc

[fervent zealot]

you mean general internet abreviations?

smh

[heady comet]

Just search it up

[chilly lake]

ive never seen iirc used anywhere

[fervent zealot]

i have

here

and there, and everywhere.

[chilly lake]

well, atleastrr things like boss and equipment abreviations you guys use

[fervent zealot]

those are easy to figure out

[chilly lake]

how besides asking what they mean?

[fervent zealot]

they're abreviations, you can find out easily

make a guess what perfs means

[hollow shell]

And it's not hard to ask, you only gotta do it once

"What's CV?"
"Ceaseless Void"
"Oh okay" [never needs to ask again]

[heady comet]

Photoviscerator is an alternative though

[hollow shell]

@lunar berry What about Cosmic Bolter and Planetary Annihilation?

[heady comet]

Renaming<Buffing

That entirely line of weapons up to heavenly gale legitimately suck

[hollow shell]

#help-advice-read-pins is the channel for that, @inland acorn

[inland acorn]

oh wrong channel sorry

[hollow shell]

@safe lava As in, remove their melee variants?

Or add throwing versions of vanilla melee boomerangs?

[frosty kindle]

pretty sure fargo's mod can make vanilla boomerangs get thrown variants

[night cradle]

^

[signal ibex]

[ashen warren]

[cyan lagoon]

Horribly vague

But it should either be only a sentry or a traditional summoning item

[ashen warren]

Throwing class boomerangs don't exist

[neon panther]

errr build it back or dont accidentally destroy it

[faint rivet]

^

[radiant meadow]

@elfin rapids if you're trying to do no hits, using the clear projectiles function on cheat sheet can help

[elfin rapids]

had forgotten about that tbh, it would be nice to have it in the base mod though right?

would streamline it a bit more

[radiant meadow]

Would be nice (assuming you mean what your suggestion is and not the actual cheat sheet function)

[elfin rapids]

yeah not actually a button that does it lmao

so, it just 'happens' when you die

would make sense imo

and for people not using cheatsheet of course

or hero's

[radiant meadow]

it would also help in dog fight by removing cosmic mines

[elfin rapids]

fuck i'd forgotten about that

i've technically done death doggo nohit before, so I wonder if it'd get a pass

[faint rivet]

And the mines from Astrum Deus

[elfin rapids]

yeah, fuck those things for real

massive pain in my ass when I was doing that

[worthy fiber]

Why would an undo button belong in Calamity

[round falcon]

It doesn't?

Unless you're using a pickaxe as a weapon and accidentally enable Smart Cursor

But that's just a meme

[radiant meadow]

even if you enable smart cursor, you can still do dmg unless you have Overhaul

[night cradle]

tbh instead of removing them completely upon dying you could just make them disappear when the boss dies

[radiant meadow]

that's what the suggestion means

[elfin rapids]

^

[night cradle]

wait

fuck

[elfin rapids]

I mean it's basically the same thing

If you die on armageddon then the boss dies anyway

[night cradle]

I thought that when projectiles die

[elfin rapids]

in most cases

theres only like 3 exceptions to bosses not despawning

[night cradle]

profaned nut flashbacks

[radiant meadow]

if you die on armageddon, bosses don't despawn
the tooltip is wrong
has flashbacks of signus spawncamp

if the bosses don't normally despawn, they won't despawn cuz of armageddon

[night cradle]

hey that's what I used to kill signut, him not despawning

[elfin rapids]

well from what i've seen

90% of the time the boss usually just flies off screen to despawn

so i assume that's what it's doing

but there are a couple bosses cough brimstone elemental cough that dont

[radiant meadow]

yeah, but that's normal ai, it has nothing to do with armageddon's supposed "bosses despawn on player death" feature

[elfin rapids]

huh, odd

[radiant meadow]

the ones that don't despawn are main profaned guardian, signus, brimmy, and polterghast (I think)

[elfin rapids]

great, got that to look forward to I guess

woo hoo

[radiant meadow]

just don't fight them near your spawnpoint

although main guardian will chase you down to the end of the world

[elfin rapids]

whilst flying straight at you at super sonic speeds

[dense girder]

@sacred thorn keep suggestions to one message where possible just a heads up also if you want calamity presents specify how they work, etc

[sacred thorn]

Alright I’m gonna edit that message

[dense girder]

Art being the same as used in the server is a good idea

It'd have to be extremely simplified to fit in a terraria-size frame

But a good idea nonetheless

👍

[sacred thorn]

Did you just change ur profile pic from a blue thing to sans?

[radiant meadow]

and before anyone says something, I'm not sure if " Made several bosses less spammy with their projectiles." will make the fireballs easier to see.

[fervent zealot]

it probably will make them less annoying to see

[hearty yew]

term: on the bugs document, "boss projectiles not appearing" is said to be fixed by taking your quality off of low

I believe that can be implied to mean "calamity officially doesn't support low quality"

like how it officially doesn't support small worlds or other mods

[bitter topaz]

supporting low quality is literally as easy as giving each projectile an actual sprite, rather than fucking with worldgen a ton so things don't break

iirc a ton of projectiles consist of nothing but dust

[fervent zealot]

most of the dust projectiles are fixed now

[bitter topaz]

iirc the ones in clone's fight haven't really been touched

they're still mostly dust besides the lasers, which have always been actual sprites

[radiant meadow]

the laser's aren't really the issue except maybe the fact they split and home
the fireballs appear, they just are hard to see

and Quality's on low cuz that's what potato laptop's need to function and not get a lag dq

[bitter topaz]

i was just saying they're the only real sprite and the rest is just dust
in my experience though the fireballs have always tended to blend in slightly with the solid black background

dust doesn't exactly help, though

[dense girder]

@unreal patrol already done

most songs are added

with a few exceptions

[ruby cobalt]

!wiki Music Box

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Music_Box

[ruby cobalt]

Nice wiki checking, by the way.

[jovial spire]

Perhaps after Plantera WoF could be buffed and drop blood orbs?

and post provi would drop bloodstone

[unreal patrol]

o

[radiant meadow]

you mean, make wof one of the "Calamitous creatures"?

[jovial spire]

yeah

kinda makes sence

[radiant meadow]

I'd rather not

also wof is more fleshy theme rather than brimstone theme
idk how ravager really fits

[jovial spire]

Well thats buffed brimmy

[radiant meadow]

Imagine if scal got buffed after providence

[jovial spire]

he would just drop blood orbs

post plantera or mechs

[radiant meadow]

you could suggest that brimmy and calamitas drop blood orbs post plant and make ravager always drop them

[jovial spire]

ah thats a better idea

I'll do that instead

[hollow shell]

Could you real quick add why it makes sense

[jovial spire]

kk

fingured it was fialy obvious, sry i didnt put exactly why

[nocturne sand]

has anyone ever suggested another acessory that adds and armor sprite, like abyys diving suit?

[jovial spire]

if so, not very often

[nocturne sand]

huh

[jovial spire]

Someone said that you're allowed to repost suggestions after a week, is that even true lol

oh i have an idea about that now

Tyrant's Cape
Essentually is Yharim's cape. Carried by traveling merchant with a 4% chance, you can buy it for 20 platnium. Can only be carried by traveling merchant post-ML.

[radiant meadow]

yes, you can
it's in one of the pins

[hollow shell]

@fierce iris Just replace "under" with "for", and capitalize "Add"
and you've got a golden suggestion

[radiant meadow]

@jovial spire Is it vanity? or is it a dash?

[jovial spire]

specified that

if the cpae gets added we can look exactally like Yharim lol

[dense girder]

@hollow shell hey rover can I have a star

thanks

[lost agate]

What if you dont wanna use all your moneys

[dense girder]

as much as you can

so just if you need 3996 arrows to make a lot of bloodflare arrows, etc

otherwise just hold rightclick

and get as many as you need or want

[lost agate]

But what if you have like a 100 plat

Its not theorical, thats me post ML

[radiant meadow]

Then you haven't battled the profaned guardians or sentinels enough

[lost agate]

See?, I can has more

[faint rivet]

I had like 2k by the "end" of my Rev playthru

[ruby cobalt]

Something something.

3-4k from 30 ravager bags.

[faint rivet]

Probably

[fervent zealot]

i have like, over 50k plat

[cobalt lotus]

[faint rivet]

[heady comet]

Pretty sure its scrap for a reason

[radiant meadow]

oh no, signus spawning mines and the end of the boss fight

[lost agate]

The other way around would be better

Signus, SW, CV

[ruby cobalt]

CV and SW are the easiest post-ML bosses

[radiant meadow]

guess they outrank the nuggets and birb?

actually birb can be hard if you don't know what you're doing~

[ruby cobalt]

So can be nuggets.

At least they're bound to a biome.

[frank monolith]

Is there any reason the post moon lord weapons do such wide ranges of damage?

[lost agate]

To farm ML

[frank monolith]

for example the sea dragon and storm dragoon do around 8k for me while the shredder and starfleet are busted

and do like 20k

[lunar berry]

wym

[frank monolith]

weapons that I was able to get post providence are worse than post ML

[lunar berry]

bullets?

storm dragon isn’t that good imo

[heady comet]

Unbalanced game

[frank monolith]

makes sense

Heres another example

[radiant meadow]

seadragon is pretty strong, so idk what you're doing

[frank monolith]

pre moon lord bow Monsoon does 2-3 times the damage of telluric bow dropped by providence

[radiant meadow]

I'm pretty sure that telluric bow is just not too good

[heady comet]

Tfw telluric glare 90k dps on dog

Le epic meme

[frank monolith]

That might be it

I'm probably getting to DOG tonight

I've only done up to stormweaver

[heady comet]

Wrong channel

[ashen warren]

ty

[lost agate]

Basically a halibut but in sword form? @lucid marsh

And easier to get

[lucid marsh]

And not scaling but still strong for it’s tier, so similar to a legendary weapon

[lost agate]

Legendaries dont scalate anymore

[radiant meadow]

so basically insanely powerful until around polterghast/providence tier

[lost agate]

Basically halibut

[lucid marsh]

I actually considered suggesting it be an ancient halibut cannon (unnerfed)

[lost agate]

...

[lucid marsh]

No, halibut scales

[radiant meadow]

maybe make it limited to being mined with blossom pick because it's not hard to get to the bottom around plant/calamitas tier

[lost agate]

No, the bullet do

[lucid marsh]

Legendary weapons don’t

[lost agate]

Halibut didnt scale for me

[lucid marsh]

What?

[radiant meadow]

it does, just not a lot

[lucid marsh]

Halibut definitely scales

[heady comet]

Halibut scales

[lost agate]

Ah well

[radiant meadow]

something like 10 -> 20 -> 40

[lucid marsh]

10 damage pre hardmode, 20 hardmode, 40 post moon lord

[lost agate]

Still saying, your idea is basically halibut in a sword

Do the minibosses at the bottom get affected by zen?

[lucid marsh]

Not necessarily a sword

Just in a shrine like the enchanted sword

[lost agate]

If zen works, then you can get it really early so....

Its a halibut for me

[radiant meadow]

zen has limited effects in the abyss

[lost agate]

To what point?

[radiant meadow]

If you're unlucky, you might still get eaten by a bobbit worm

Enemies are still relatively abundant with zen

[lost agate]

Still, with some luck you'll get it, and thats why its like a halibut

[radiant meadow]

yeah, except this is less rng based

this could be easily gotten around calamitas/plant tier with abyssal diving suit

[lost agate]

Tbh, if you want a sword at dog tier, soul blade basically

[marsh gust]

you could make it locked with a key that drops from doggo :/

[lucid marsh]

I NEVER SAID IT WAS A SWORD

[marsh gust]

or the boss b4 it

[radiant meadow]

Or you could have it locked like the murasama

[lucid marsh]

though zen potion would make it too easy to get

[lost agate]

Whatever it is, the concept makes it op

[frosty kindle]

zen potion doesn't have its full effect in the abyss, letting ya guys know

[lucid marsh]

The point is for it to be OP if you’re skilled enough to get it

[frosty kindle]

enemies still spawn mighty fast in the abyss even with zen

[lost agate]

I know, but luckily you can sneak through

[radiant meadow]

The problem is it's really easy to get with abyssal diving suit which is only post calamitas/plant

[lucid marsh]

Alternatively, make it spawn an aggressive adult eidolon wyrm upon breaking the shrine?

[lost agate]

Magic mirror

[radiant meadow]

nah, that would induce suicide runs

[lucid marsh]

No, that wouldn’t work

[sleek wigeon]

You'd still get the sword

Or w/e

Not a sword

[radiant meadow]

like pre hardmode siren's heart basically

that's a suicide mission but people still do it

[frosty kindle]

just ramp up spawn rates near the "shrine"

there you go.

[radiant meadow]

"shrine" gives zerg aura basically?

[lost agate]

Perhaps

[sleek wigeon]

Have adult ediolon wyrms spawn frequently.

[lost agate]

They are pacifist tho

[lucid marsh]

That’s a good idea. Shrine gives Zerg when you’re near it

Then a whole bunch of reapers would spawn and kill you

[frosty kindle]

i was thinking battle potion, since zerg is just a spamstorm

[lucid marsh]

But battle potion isn’t enough

[radiant meadow]

calming pot might cancel out the battle pot
idk if calming pot effect is also reduced

[lost agate]

Yeah, make it battle aura, zerg would make it impossible even post dog

[novel oasis]

yeah Zerg wouldn't work

[radiant meadow]

and calming + zen might cancel out battle

[lost agate]

A forced battle aura?

Idk if thats possible

[frosty kindle]

forced battle aura, or make it so that your aggro priority increases to enemies, possibly

makes reapers target players easier

[radiant meadow]

maybe automatically enrage eidolons?

[lost agate]

Yeah, this is definitely turning out better now

[frosty kindle]

Imagine getting close to the shrine and then getting tossed by an eidolon wyrm into a bobbit worm

[radiant meadow]

I meant the juveniles which don't have telekinesis iirc

[frosty kindle]

the big boye wyrms

[lost agate]

I think they do

[frosty kindle]

juveniles don't have telekinesis powers, i believe

[novel oasis]

would the adult eidolon wyrms spawn before polterghast near the shrine?

[lost agate]

Idk, havent seen a juvenile in some time

[radiant meadow]

well, the adults can't hurt you if you don't aggro them, so if you get lucky, you could just walk right in

[lost agate]

Make them pay attention to you

[radiant meadow]

if the adults aggro, it's game over regardless your gear

the only way you would get to the shrine is with silva armor

[lost agate]

And it ends like a race against death/ telekinesis /rng

So...
@lucid marsh if you add the battle aura to the suggestion i will star it asap

[lucid marsh]

I just did, or something like it

[lost agate]

Mmm
Zerg is a bit too much imo

Thats why i said forced battle potion aura

High rate that cant be neutralized by anything smh

[lucid marsh]

But they would have to make a new debuff for that or something

[lost agate]

Im not a coding expert so idk

[radiant meadow]

make the weapon not useful pre moon lord at all?
that kind of scraps the reward for getting it early concept

[lucid marsh]

Just because it would be way too OP pre moon lord

You can’t even survive down there yet anyways

Right?

[radiant meadow]

well, if all the minibosses instantly aggro, no, but if that isn't the case, it's feasable to jump down there around plant tier

[lucid marsh]

There’s a significant amount of progression between moon lord and DoG

Well, this is meant to make it not too OP for plantera tier

Because it would be

[lost agate]

I mean, im pretty sure aggro can be changeable

[radiant meadow]

so, basically, it will scale

[lucid marsh]

But scaling is hell to balance

[radiant meadow]

I don't know why they didn't just make the legendaries bad for their tier but still scale

[lucid marsh]

It specifically won’t scale and be balanced like a bumblebirb or yharon weapon

Actually specifically it should be balanced like that legendary from DoG

[radiant meadow]

So it basically is pre moon lord = good weapon, but not stupidly overpowered
post moon lord = better than before, pretty strong

[lucid marsh]

Yes but that’s not the point

You’re not supposed to be in the 4th layer of the abyss pre moon lord

When every enemy 1-shots you

[radiant meadow]

you're not supposed to, but it's not too difficult if you're lucky with mob spawns and you have enough accessories like abyssal diving suit and siren's heart

[lucid marsh]

It would just be the halibut cannon problem all over again

So if the devs want to do that they will but I really doubt it

[arctic wren]

... why not just make it not usable pre-DoG?

I mean it's already the case with Yharim's crystal and Murasama...

[cyan lagoon]

@ashen warren already planned

[lunar berry]

um what

@pure dove i don’t get it

[pure dove]

@ashen warren iirc, Draedon is the one who created the mechanical bosses, which then turned against him and started attacking people and turned into bosses, which just goes to prove that robots can take over. Don't give robots too much power or AI.

[cyan lagoon]

Also that's not how it goes

Draedon made them, then decided to make them death machines

[pure dove]

@lunar berry you know how in rev/death mode, piercing weapons, such as the last prism don't work on post ML worm bosses.

[lunar berry]

nope

you can still do it

dog has mega high damage reduction on its body

on all mods

modes

[pure dove]

and this is pretty annoying, since my last prism is probably my best weapon that I have rn, and I planned to use it against the DoG

[lunar berry]

look at leviathan killing deathmode DoG with vanilla bear

gear

also there’s better weapons you know

[pure dove]

and when was that?

yeah ik

[lunar berry]

on his yt channel

just search up dog vanilla gear

[pure dove]

if it was a while ago, that's because he did it before an update

[lunar berry]

there have been no updates...

to dog i mean

[radiant meadow]

It was not too long ago; it was after dog got his new ai

[pure dove]

if I search up dog vanilla gear, I'm probably gonna get a dog wearing vanilla icecream xd

well it wasn't an update to DoG, it was an update to the mode itself

[lunar berry]

https://youtu.be/fdKHO6o_GuU

[radiant meadow]

just aim at the head instead of trying to line up all his segments

[lunar berry]

here u go

oh hey

look what happens when i search up dog vanilla gear

that

[radiant meadow]

this is getting a bit off topic ngl

[lunar berry]

sigh i think you just tried to aim at the body

aim the head boi

oh god

your suggestion is the same as mine but with a better name reeeee @void river

[void river]

just an addon to the idea i guess 👼

[lunar berry]

still tho

nightingale

probably the best pun i’ve heard in a while

[void river]

🌃 🍺

[radiant meadow]

so nightingale -> cosmic bolter -> planetary annihilation -> heavenly gale

[lunar berry]

cosmic gale

idk

i’m not good with names

[ashen warren]

@void river *Night's Gale?

Night's Edge, Night's Ray, Night's Stabber

[void river]

why shoot laser bolts

[lunar berry]

Nightingale sounds cool tho

[void river]

when you can shoot Dark energy Nightingales

i mean the molten fury shoots firey bats right

or was that the other bow

[lunar berry]

i would say that lunarian bow is underwhelming compared to the other ones

[void river]

^

sadly

i remember using it against the WoF back in 1.1/1.2

[lunar berry]

yeah me too

i used like 4 different weapons first time killing modded wof

bow, abyssal tome, eldridge tomd and something else

[void river]

also the phantom pheonix bow shoots birds of death as you shoot arrrows

abyssal tome is still baller

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/terraria_gamepedia/0/0f/Phantom_Phoenix_(demo).gif?version=eda0052ab087965b397d5ce7a5653873

[ashen warren]

The gif corruption makes that look even cooler than it is

[lunar berry]

why does it look so much cooler

[shadow prism]

Wyrm Soul
Equipable
The very essence of an Eidlon Wyrm, shaped into an orb
Allows the user to use telekinesis to accelerate their melee weapons to extreme speeds
+30% melee speed, -20% melee damage
Overrides the melee speed cap. Serves to make melee a bit more viable for both DoG and yharon, as well as give eidolon wyrms a use besides soul edge and eidolic wail.

[lunar berry]

hmm

nice

but

melee weapons may be too fast

think about it

50% increase in speed is equal to about 50% increase to dps

minus the 20% damage decrease

it’s still avery big increase

[shadow prism]

post DoG melee is absolute garbage rn

[lunar berry]

maybe nerf it a bit

but still

that’s a lot of dps

[pure dove]

@lunar berry that's cuz it's based off of your recommendations

[lunar berry]

Nope

You try it

I can guarantee that you will get that

@pure dove

[pure dove]

well if I tried it it would probably show the same, since I watch terraria videos

[lunar berry]

Log out of account

Or make one

But it doesn’t really matter this is off topic

[sleek wigeon]

lorde suggestion

Ha ha, fat chance

[lunar berry]

But yeah you can kill dog with a last prism, just dodge

Wtf no @pure dove

[pure dove]

no you can't

[lunar berry]

...

[pure dove]

because of the piercing cancel

[lunar berry]

THE VIDEO

BOYE

[sleek wigeon]

It just takes time

Its very possible

[pure dove]

that was made before the update

well yeah, its possible

[lunar berry]

....

[sleek wigeon]

Anyhow, last prism is moonlord

it shouldnt be viable on dog

period

[lunar berry]

There has been no updates to dog since. Heidi it

[sleek wigeon]

Due to the rampant power creep in calamity and all

[fervent zealot]

lorde suggestion jajajajaja EPIC

[heady comet]

@pure dove you dumb boy

@cyan lagoon

[neon panther]

the lorde is a dead meme and all suggestions related to it are pretty much memes

[lunar berry]

@pure dove you big oofed right ther delet before modnotices

[cyan lagoon]

@pure dove no

[pure dove]

well I mean, obv nerf it

[elfin rapids]

lmao

[cyan lagoon]

Lorde is not coming back

ever

[devout seal]

It was removed ages ago

it's not a thing anymore

[elfin rapids]

i still have the version from when it was a thing

stashed away

hidden

[pure dove]

uh why was my suggestion deleted?

[devout seal]

Because.

[cyan lagoon]

It was a meme suggestion

[devout seal]

Lorde will never return.

[marsh gust]

^

[spark flax]

no lorde in this house

[devout seal]

it was a dead joke the instant it got added.

[lunar berry]

Boi

[pure dove]

no it wasn't

[lunar berry]

Lorde was a meme

[devout seal]

It was literally created as a shitpost

[pure dove]

I kinda wanna see The Lorde as an actual boss. Maybe it can act like golem and the ravager.

[devout seal]

It was removed because it wasn't meant to stay for long in the first place.

[lunar berry]

A fricken pixelatde yharim that has 25mil hp and also has the ai of everything

[neon panther]

The answer is no, and that's final

[elfin rapids]

"but guys it would be so cooooool!!!!!"

lul

[pure dove]

it would

[cyan lagoon]

Lorde is never being readded and thats final.

[pure dove]

well at least add a cool drop

wait

[neon panther]

If you really want the Lorde in-game, learn how to and code it yourself

[devout seal]

Ask Fabsol themself.

[pure dove]

it was removed?

[cyan lagoon]

Do not continue this discussion

[devout seal]

Yes.

[pure dove]

lol

[neon panther]

It was removed a long time ago

[devout seal]

you are using a very outdated version if it's still in.

seriously, you don't even have the abyss if the lorde's still in.

[pure dove]

it's been removed and re-added and changed so many times that I can't even remember

[devout seal]

No

[neon panther]

guys Cob said stop

[devout seal]

it was added

and then removed later.

never re-added.

or changed.

[elfin rapids]