yeah I kinda assume that the hard part is the segments and things though, not the ai and with this you are just summoning one summon not segments
#suggestions-discussion
urban current
Anyone interested in a accessory that combines the amalgam and the core of the blood god?
urban current
What about a accessory that combines the sponge and the Asgardian ageis?
devout seal
stop trying to combine superaccesories
low hedge
how about an accessory that combines all the accessories in the mod that causes your game to crash forever
low hedge
not really
marsh gust
ultimate accessories shouldnt be combined due to balancing imo
lunar berry
- it was a joke
- combining stuff like that is mega op
it’s literally an extra accesory slot
low hedge
a sane person
tired haven
@sleek wigeon fair point. Should I edit suggestion?
sleek wigeon
Yes
tired haven
Done
ancient dragon
Caps are relegated to Rev+ for the sake of freedom in how you approach lower modes instead of limiting you across the board.
proven tide
oho this suggestion is good
proven tide
@ancient dragon alexis bby couple of things
first can you please star that adren one because I really wanna star it owo
second if I ever have a baby I'm gonna call him Alexis uwu
lunar berry
omg my suggestion is actually appreicated for once
ancient dragon
1 - Alright;
2 - Die.
ancient dragon
Don't do that.
ashen warren
Starring your own suggestion is frowned upon
proven tide
Well, it's kinda reasonable in that a lot of people hesitate to star a suggestion below 3 stars because your name is there to be seen and judged
I often star my own suggestion until it passes three stars to just skip that little gap of uncertainty
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ashen warren
"in that a lot of people hesitate to star a suggestion below 3 stars because your name is there to be seen and judged" i can tell you with 100% certainty that most people don't give a shit
ruby cobalt
Just make good suggestions, that's all you need to get stars
ashen warren
You star a suggestion if you think it's good, end of.
lunar berry
so
i can star my own suggestion if i want to
i will unstar tho
since its off the ground now
actaullry no ill just wait for more stars
lol
ancient dragon
Just... don't announce anything regarding your own suggestions.
It can always be taken the wrong way, so do stuff in silence.
signal ibex
Wait no.
lunar berry
wut
signal ibex
Nothing
lunar berry
self esteem is important
signal ibex
lunar berry
hmm
ancient dragon
Please don't meme in this channel.
ancient dragon
Not the voice of everyone here, but you announcing anything regarding your suggestions can be taken as gloating or baiting for more stars.
No matter how unlikely you think it is, there's someone out there for anything.
ancient dragon
Not an excuse, btw. No nitro, no emotes.
Or else. *cocks gun*
signal ibex
lunar berry
k bye guys gnight
ashen warren
@molten willow firstly don't be an ass and secondly don't send not-suggestions in suggestions
molten willow
alpine garnet
Lmao
leaden karma
arctic wren
bye max
alpine garnet
Can't dm if you're not in same server
knotty kraken
bye
alpine garnet
Aka banned 
arctic wren
low hedge
of all the mods you pick valk
ancient dragon
Should've picked Toby, smh.
sturdy dock
@molten willow Please dont threaten users, @signal ibex don't post memes either
Muted that max guy since he actually went and threatened dm spam, was already warned
ancient dragon
Sorry for minimodding on him, mom.
ashen warren
good thing you didn't ping me because I just woke up
low hedge
@ toby
ashen warren
lost agate
I get notifications even when people dont ping me lol
round falcon
Then set your notifs to @mentions and then choose if you want to enable everyone and here notifs
ashen warren
this isn't the place to be talking about this
round falcon
okay
i was coming here to ask about a suggestion i was working on but i forgot what i was typing
shadow prism
Event Horizon
Right click to fire a miniature black hole, this effect has a 30 second cooldown
Made from 1 kraken + 9 meld bars + 10 galactica singularities at an ancient manipulator
(Yoyo) Has a damaging aura around it (like lacerator), this aura inflicts no debuffs but does quite a bit of damage. The yoyo itself has a 100% chance to inflict ichor, cursed flames, confused and [crush depth (this can be changed)] for 3 seconds each. Right clicking fires a small black hole that lingers in place for about 5 seconds before dissipating, this effect has a 30 second cooldown before it can be used again. The black hole inflicts marked for death, armor crunch and glacial state for 2 seconds each.
Gives meld bars more use since right now they’re basically just upgrade fodder except for xeroc pitchforks, wings and armor.
round falcon
Confused is basically useless iirc
ashen warren
Perhaps the frostspark bullets deal more damage to immune enemies thing should be extended to all sources of a debuff
"if you ping me one for time I'll dm spam you for the rest of the day"
That should be pinned
While it was funny, stuff like that shouldn't be encouraged
worthy fiber
Another old legendaries suggestion 
ashen warren
I'm sure you can find an old version of calamity
yo @faint shore if you would delete your messages that would be A+
austere orchid
My god.
They stopped it because they were stupidly overpowered.
ashen warren
?
austere orchid
The legendaries.
ashen warren
O
elder kestrel
Where
worthy fiber
deadleted
elder kestrel
Ah
shadow prism
Combo Abyss Weapons
Acidic Shrapnel Launcher
Fires a barrage of toxic shrapnel at the enemy
Right click to fire an acid orb that follows the mouse cursor and gets bigger over time
Made from 1 flak kraken + 1 sulphuric acid cannon + 50 depth cells + 40 lumenyl + 30 tenebris + 20 voidstone + 10 darksun fragments at a Draedon’s forge
Fires a large spread of shrapnel that sticks to enemies and inflicts shred and crush depth for 2 seconds each
Right click is basically flak kraken but it’s an acid orb that gets bigger over time and ignores i frames
Looks like it’s made mostly of voidstone but has some other abyss materials on it
I can do more of these if they seem like good ideas
Ballistic Blade
Rapidly throws homing reaper scythes that stick to enemies and explode
Right click to fire a burst of 5 reaper teeth that shred enemy defense
Made from 1 ballistic poison bomb + 1 valediction + (abyss mats) + 10 darksun fragments at a Draedon’s forge
The right click reaper teeth pierce and inflict armor crunch and marked for death for 5 seconds each.
The teeth don’t home, but the exploding valedictions do.
I’ll put the other 3 in a doc and post it later
paper torrent
I do think my latest suggestion is original and good with the rage/adrenaline bar positioning. I am sick of having to reset the game to reset them.
lost agate
Dont move them then 
round falcon
why 75%
ashen warren
crabbar: 
ruby cobalt
12%+12%+absolute shit-tier materials = 75% melee speed when normally you'd be able to reach it post-Golem granted you did OOA.
round falcon
thats literally overclocked melee in one accessory
ruby cobalt
On fucking MECHS tier.
ashen warren
grand guardian is now faster than fetid 
round falcon
I'd say 20% or 25% max, all "dude what"s aside
ruby cobalt
Let me get this straight.
ashen warren
mantis claws now consistently break the sound barrier
ruby cobalt
Not only it completely disregards the melee accessory line, it just shits straight down its throat.
ashen warren
looks like turquoise has to make a new sound effect
ruby cobalt
Instantly breaks all yoyos, turns every melee into 1-tick-DIE, and on top of that it's post 1 mech.
Post. One. Mech.
round falcon
plus 75% increased kb is just fus ro dah in a sword form
ashen warren
what about yoyos does melee speed affect
ruby cobalt
It affects their velocity.
round falcon
over 200% breaks them
ashen warren
didnt even see the knock back lmao
ruby cobalt
So if you stack enough melee speed upgrades they just go straight into the orbit and break.
Your yoyo becomes a boomerang.
round falcon
Yoyoomeranger subclass
ashen warren
just smack scal out of her own arena
hollow shell
Hell, you can keep 75% speed if you
like
halved damage too
round falcon
25% decrease to all damage and dr
night cradle
75% damage decrease tbh
lost agate
Being blood pact
round falcon
Blood pact 2
ashen warren
how about all defence is removed and every enemy applies marked for death and blood pact effect for three minutes
gusty geode
Made it post-DoG and had it reduce your knockback
ashen warren
75% is pretty damn insane
yeah just make it cosmolite and a fire gauntlet or seomthing
2 of an already endgame accessory is alot
ruby cobalt
Switch it to 1 ele gauntlet, 50 moon materials, something else probably.
75% still has to go.
gusty geode
I'm just amazed it didn't get shut down as a meme suggestion
ruby cobalt
Yes, this wasn't shooting down.
ashen warren
well thats meming
not shutting down
yharon true melee might actually be viable with that
paper torrent
You could move the rage/adrenaline bars by accident like I did.
lost agate
Dont do it then 
paper torrent
Do you know what accident means?
round falcon
As a person who hates the melee class as a whole but finds shortswords fun and spears more so, I say that's better but knockback isn't a problem in the endgame anyways.
lost agate
@paper torrent do you know sarcasm?
dense girder
is it possible for there to be cutscenes in terraria
almost no chance but an opening cutscene would be nice for new characters on a new world
it'd be pretty epic really but also hell on earth to make and code
hollow shell
Ehh it might not be that bad
A slideshow story is totally doable, just display images on the screen one after another
Having something animated would be a different case
dense girder
not animated but yeah slides
sort of like
hold on let me find it
something like this maybe
hollow shell
I was thinking Undertale but that also works
dense girder
Undertale's good but I like ST better
the unique art style of the slides, the accompanying music, the text crawl
undertale has the same but i think ST works better in its presentation
dense girder
while you're at it throw the vivid clarity into the recipe
foggy shard
nope
dense girder
joke.png
ancient widget
you can force the camera to watch a position on the screen you know
and then just move it back to the player when whatever you want the player to watch is done
like if you wanted the player to watch Xeroc tear Goozma apart, just force the camera to that spot until it's done and make the player unable to get hurt while it's occurring
we could do it
ancient dragon
The Calamity Cinematic Experience™: Coming Soon. ™.
brave warren
10 Calamitas' NPCs vs. Doppelganger Calamitas ☻
ashen warren
Would you have to completely animate it or could you just have a video play?
shadow prism
Abyss Suggestions
(Wall of text warning)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vQYIoxLzakiE0kCsG1HoeZ0AE1u0QUrvv3aQjfPAuI
foggy shard
That's the wrong place
brave warren
@pine swan be more specific l:v
dense girder
it would take some effort to make cutscenes though
you could just use direct in-game sprites, hur, but it would look kind of sloppy and not a lot of effort put in
i mean that's fine of course but if you wanted to go the extra twenty five miles and make it look really good you could sprite each cutscene at a 1080p resolution
dense girder
splitting suggestions into 3 messages
bitter topaz
dull kite
dense girder
ruby cobalt
He wants to add 5 vortex fragments to it.
Which changes approximately nothing, except for the fact that you can't use it on Ravager, PBG and Doucheron.
dense girder
i think the main problem is that that recipe would be asking you to get 2 daedalus emblems
hollow shell
Read his suggestion again
ruby cobalt
Oh, big brain.
dense girder
which is 2 eyes of golem, 2 sun stones, 2 moon stones, 2 rifle scopes, and 2 cores of calamity
no sorry 3 rifle scopes because he's added another
ruby cobalt
I mean, I'm assuming people aren't usually brainfarting.
Which is a bold assumption.
dense girder
what am i doing wrong here man
shadow prism
if it is a new item, what does it do
brave warren
isn't it only one daedalus emblem? not two
dense girder
no, as in
hollow shell
Well, crafting the "Daedalus Sniper Scope" has the same ingredients
hollow shell
so it might as well be like crafting 2
brave warren
oh
hollow shell
I assume he wants that scope to be used in the Quiver recipe in place of the emblem currently
Can't know for sure though
cyan lagoon
@carmine sphinx Nobody knows how it will be nerfed
and it's definitely up to Fab to what he did with it.
hollow shell
Well, it's up to Fab whether to take this guy's suggestion :P
lunar berry
its prolly gonna astay that way
hollow shell
also #changelogs
hollow shell
Also Gabe, elaborate just a bit more
Like
why you think that nerf would be preferred over making it deal less damage, or something
dense girder
well it does shoot about 20 bullets per shot to be fair
which contributes to its dps
devout seal
They're just making it do less damage probably.
tired haven
Tbh less lag
carmine sphinx
well it's because it turns my potato pc into mashed potato pc in multiplayer
devout seal
the amount of bullets is why it's good.
dense girder
less bullets, more damage
devout seal
but then it doesn't get nerfed
lunar berry
35-40 actually
dense girder
not a balanced nerf where nothing is lost
just a good chunk less bullets
and a bit more damage
devout seal
then it's nearly the same.
dense girder
not enough to counteract the less bullets but a bit more to make it work
dense girder
wouldn't be hard and you'd still have to as that one'd be inaccurate
be it less bullets or damage
no cutting corners with wikis
digital sparrow
I would wear a vanity SCal or Yharim in late game for sure
bitter topaz
@still falcon you might want to elaborate on that a bit
hollow shell
Yeah man you're gonna have to be more specific
delicate raft
How do you expect thrower class to be buffed if you don't say what should be buffed? 
digital sparrow
Ok that ones even less specific
potent veldt
SPOOK
dense girder
@potent veldt here, i'll add some skeleton stuff to my suggestion and you delete yours
i'll credit you
sound good?
potent veldt
Thats good
It was half of a meme suggestion
And also a legimate suggestion, at the same time
dense girder
added them under common items
any other skeleton things that could be added?
i refrained from sans so hard
hollow shell
I'm assuming you're aware of
https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Bone_furniture
dense girder
Yes, but not actual furniture like tables and chairs
More fun things like the aforementioned disco skull and such
dancing skeleton
even if these suggestions do get upvoted in time for halloween, they probably won't be added nor will the update be released
shame but it'd be nice to have seasonal items anyways
hey, might even get started on christmas stuff
I almost said profaned crag snowglobe
cyan lagoon
nice
dense girder
nice pfp cob, looking sharp tooth pun 👍
ashen warren
Tbh most of throwing problems would go away if they just had more stuff
still falcon
ye
hollow shell
That's not really
an easy solution
ashen warren
They don't have many accessories at all and weapon variety is non-existant
frosty kindle
it would become hard if we thought about where to put some new throwing weapons, accessories, armor etc. and take balance into account.
sinful violet
Well we know where tbh
bitter topaz
i'm in support of this, but RIP the perf hive flying into the stratosphere if it gets in
sinful violet
Usually late hm and mid pre hm and early post ml
frosty kindle
early post ML, are xeroc pitchforks still a big meme?
potent veldt
Can we just add silly throwing weapons, considering the concept
Post-ML: Lunar Bricks
ashen warren
If you compare throwing to other classes at the same point there is a noticeable difference in the amount of "ways to play"
frosty kindle
the concept of throwing isnt really silly, but i wonder how it would pan out tbh
potent veldt
The concept isnt silly by itself, until you look at how simple the silliness can be
Early game, throw cinder blocks at enemies
frosty kindle
a silly thing about throwing was the Celestus eating up your PC's frames. Oh and the Xeroc pitchforks, they destroy providence
still falcon
like 90% of throwing weapons have a melee variant
ashen warren
Isn't it curious that (at least to me) melee folks never seem to use the melee throwing weapons?
frosty kindle
i use Scourge of Cosmos melee variant all the time
still falcon
elemental disk is just shit
frosty kindle
emperyean knives, too
ashen warren
The one weapon i use is the seashell boomerang
ashen warren
Never found a need or want for any others
frosty kindle
mangrove chakrams used to be okay but they kinda just quietly returned to the grave of underused weapons
sinful violet
hey anyone remember s o l s t i c e c l a y m o r e
frosty kindle
resprites, but no buffs of any kind 
sinful violet
still more memorable than the solstice claymore, which is a real shame tbh
ashen warren
Galaxia should require the solstice claymore
radiant meadow
why don't you suggest that then?
radiant meadow
last I checked 75% of suggestions don't need to be in Calamity
like I honestly could've lived with abyssal diving suit not giving underwater breathing
ashen warren
That's why i don't star 75% of suggestions
When i make a suggestion it's one i genuinely think would make the mod a better experience
Not just an "it would be cool"
spark ember
idk if this helps anyone it prolly doesn't but there are a few suggestions that got 50+ stars and haven't gotten checked. Again this is prolly just annoying but idk it might help someone
radiant meadow
it's probably just mods not being proactive over suggestions
there's no real need to worry
spark ember
yeah they probs just haven't gotten around to it
bitter topaz
rover being lazy smh my smh
but yeah there's no real need to worry about it
ashen warren
@radiant meadow no hitting dog?
radiant meadow
yes, and i just did something dumb and got hit by head
quiet abyss
Nice, 🍌 man
neon panther
thank
sleek wigeon
@still falcon its not that many throwing weapons have a melee variant
its that many melee weapons also happen to have a throwing variant
And statigel is about early hardmode tier anyhow. easily good enough to defeat cryo with
cobalt lotus
Calamity is about dodging aswell, and is meant to be difficult
It just takes more dodging to use throwing
proven tide
I'm pretty sure this is going to get ☑ed
heady comet
Statis' belt
radiant meadow
statis' belt is thrower exclusive
statis' belt of curses is both
also, raider's talisman is basically an earlier thrower emblem that requires charge time
it gives 15% dmg at full power
thrower emblem suggestion has already been sent to the devs before as well iirc
cobalt lotus
Oh I thought belt was both
Regardless, it would still fit as an item, as throwing at that stage does need a buff
marsh gust
cosmolight + goldwatch
radiant pawn
who crafts a watch only for a bossfight, only to then drop it
shadow prism
who doesn’t immediately make a watch when they have a good amount of gold/platinum bars
marsh gust
i keep a gold watch everytime, the first thing i craft when i hav enuf gold/plat
spark flax
...cell phone, tho
shadow prism
and that
spark flax
if you don't have cell phone by the time you're post-moon lord then
honestly
what the heck are you doing
marsh gust
^
hushed zealot
Not crafting the cell phone, duh
cobalt lotus
by then, you should be able to craft all of the materials for cell phone
hushed zealot
Am I the only one who didn't craft one because I didn't really care?
marsh gust
so youd rather have a messy inventory with alot of information giving accessory + magic mirror?
radiant pawn
@hushed zealot nah, neither i did
shadow prism
a lot of them are useless
hushed zealot
no? I didn't have any information giving accessories, didn't need em
hushed zealot
Only really had the DPS meter, and that was only when I wanted to test a new weapon
radiant pawn
the cellphone displays you everything
cobalt lotus
you can toggle things off
shadow prism
you can turn parts of it off
cobalt lotus
^
marsh gust
^
radiant pawn
also does daytime and nighttime even mather in hell
cobalt lotus
clearly it does
hushed zealot
Why craft something just to turn everything off -.-
shadow prism
how hard is it to just get a watch
cobalt lotus
@hushed zealot convenience
radiant pawn
iTS HELL
shadow prism
like no offense but if providence despawns it’s your own fault for not making a watch
marsh gust
for cellphone i only turn the fishing ones off (except moon phase)
radiant pawn
lets put the most useless example here
what if
you are so bad that you take a lot of time to beat providence
like i said useless
cobalt lotus
264,500 / 423,200 / 478,400 / 644,000
marsh gust
then get more dps
cobalt lotus
it shouldnt take you that long to do that much damage
radiant pawn
well shit then thanks for all of you to show how of a fucking dumbass i am then lol
heady comet
+9 guardians
shadow prism
provi should take at the absolute most 6 minutes
cobalt lotus
366 dps average for normal mode fight
heady comet
shadow prism
when you forget to switch off you pre hm nohit character
neon panther
I mean breaking rules is already punishable
it’s their own fault if they don’t read the rules
reacting to it is unnecessary imo
cobalt lotus
exactly, so make it more enforced that you should read them
neon panther
that’s why we have a “warned” role and don’t just go straight to “muted”
hollow shell
Also it'd be better if we had a system like the Terraria Discord, with a channel that you must message in (but can't see any history, it just looks like an empty channel) to say that you acknowledge the rules
It'd be very hard to check if somebody has reacted to something considering 1. you cannot search somebody's name in reaction lists, nor see a specific user's reactions, and 2. reaction limits
Terraria Discord even has you locked out of the whole place until you message in that confirmation channel, then when you do you're given a role that lets you see and interact with the server
That's a bit extreme though
cobalt lotus
This type of system would be helpful though just to cause less annoyance for staff.
hollow shell
Using reactions?
neon panther
it’s easy to ignore channels tbh
hollow shell
Well that's why they've got the lockout
(which is what he's suggesting now I guess)
cobalt lotus
(yes this is what I'm suggesting sorry if I'm unclear)
marsh gust
iirc when you first joined theres a 10min time b4 u can talk? why dont during that duration lock them in rules channel
neon panther
that’d require a bot to lock them out, but that could work.
cobalt lotus
Add a suggestion then
neon panther
I don’t want to make triv or someone else have to make a bot, and I still think it’s all unnecessary
sleek wigeon
I too think its unnessacary
marsh gust
or
have a role for server members
and auto give that role for access to other chats
aftr a few mins
marsh gust
so they read the rules thoroughly, thats the intended effect anyways
neon panther
their fault if they don’t
sleek wigeon
But they ALREADY dont have access to the discord for 10 minutes opening joining
Why do we need a bot to do that too?
marsh gust
thats just not being able to talk right?
sleek wigeon
yes....
marsh gust
like, my suggestion is during that 10 minutes, have the available channel for them to read is the rules channel, after than 10 mins has passed, give "full" perms again
sleek wigeon
idk man, seems like alot of work for not much gain
We dont need to force people to read the rules, we already have punishments for rule breakers
cobalt lotus
I think this more applies to pins now that I really think harder about it
That's something that people don't read often
neon panther
besides, there is a “warned” role that tells them, “Oh yeah! Rules exist! I should read them!”
and for pins, we have 
lunar berry
why do u need to react to the rules to chat
cobalt lotus
You don't, was just a suggestion
lunar berry
ik i was responding to it
cobalt lotus
And we've been debating it for a bit, feel free to scroll up
I said because it would further enforce the fact that there are rules and they should be followed, and the pins are there to make Moderator+'s jobs less tedious, so enforce the reading of those as well.
marsh gust
ik its too much work for the effect but what i had in mind is that like, once you have it in place, you dont have to do anything to it anymore. giving bots repetitive jobs
lunar berry
just make it so you can’t access other channels except for rules for 5 mins or something
marsh gust
yea its smhtng like that
sleek wigeon
Our system is fine as it is
marsh gust
mk then
hollow shell
Kinda odd
to add on to an older suggestion like that, and with something so minor
lunar berry
becuase the old dog suprised me so much and i liked that
neon panther
bring back self-duplicating DoG when 
heady comet
digital sparrow
I’ve always thought Rage and Adrenaline when active should dull music, kind of a useless suggestion but would be pretty cool
ashen warren
Yeah but I suggested basically the same thing minus adrenaline build up
sudden quail
Couldn't really be fucked thinking of proper materials for it cause I'm lazy
quiet abyss
Hmm
Wooden spikes + Chlorophyte bars?
If ya want to make it edgy and a HK reference in one, call it Thorns of Agony
sudden quail
Chlorophyte actually sounds like a good idea. It's close enough to the Temple in progression, and is almost literally "plant ore"
quiet abyss
👍
dense girder
remade my suggestions from last night with detail and changed some stuff and added some stuff
hollow shell
(Good lord we get a lot of suggestions in a day, don't we?)
quiet abyss
(Ye we sure do)
dense girder
europeans wake up and realise that they now have big brains so they make big suggestions
like "add yharim", remember that
hollow shell
I think Yharim's Army suggestions have outweighted Yharim suggestions
I think people have gotten the hint that they can't suggest bosses
but we don't have anything against events
so
sleek wigeon
I think people understand, more importantly, that yharim is coming
at an indeterminant time in the future
hence they dont suggest that thing
ruby cobalt
Yes, because they instead ask "when's yhraeeem releasd"
signal ibex
Damn im still getting pinged because of a meme i posted a while back
worthy fiber
We'd have to code it for him
marsh gust
gotta learn C# then
low hedge
marsh gust
maybe if fab thinks its good enough to be in calamity.. who knows
if not then theres hours of coding into the bin
ashen warren
Fab is also not the only dev
marsh gust
ik but if he doesnt want it in calamity then 🤷
ashen warren
I don't think he minds if it's vanity stuff, he personally doesn't like coding it
bitter topaz
^
fab just won't be the one to code it
which is an instant "this is low priority" flag afaik
elder kestrel
I don't know but calamity really needs more vanity stuff
ashen warren
Alphi why are you yellow smh
cyan lagoon
because he is
Also Alphi the only vanity we have currently is a shitton of furnitur
So if someone alterra codes them they could possibly be in
elder kestrel
True
pine shale
I'll think about it
radiant meadow
boss masks are technically vanity
bitter topaz
they're also only there because the vanilla game has them
radiant meadow
I would assume this also applies to trophies.
bitter topaz
ye, both are only there for consistency's sake
ruby cobalt
I remembered what did I wanna do for Vortex
pseudo fossil
The star?
ruby cobalt
In #suggestions-voting if it's starred - means people can vote for it.
ashen warren
Ah ok
ruby cobalt
Green checkmark - sent to dev channels.
Blue checkmark - suggestion like this was already sent to dev channels, so it's obsolete.
ashen warren
So a green checkmark is basically "hey this is pretty cool"
ruby cobalt
Green checkmark means enough people voted for it to warrant a look at it from the devs.
That's all there is to it, really.
arctic wren
there's a legend in the pins
round falcon
im on mobile and i can see the pins
ancient dragon
Legend?
ruby cobalt
ashen warren
It didnt show that in the pins
Unless it was in this channel and not in the suggestions
marsh gust
its in this channel 😂
wanton sun
ashen warren
@round falcon mobile is a bit more annoying to access pins and you cant tell whether new pins are here or not
wanton sun
it is though, dont blame him
marsh gust
i was searching for that legend too in suggestions channel
round falcon
okay
ruby cobalt
ashen warren
@ashen warren I like it but the problem is enemy summoned minions are basically enemies that fly directly towards you, and have a very large sight radius. So they're basically just enemies from the pillar.
true
Because enemies would also be spouting from the pillars so they'd just be regular enemies
Hmmm
ruby cobalt
Ye, that's the thing.
ashen warren
The stardust dragon whatever it is sounds awesome
ruby cobalt
There are no more biomes, so they don't spawn naturally, pillar just shits them out.
If that particular pillar is dead they're added to the main pool.
ashen warren
Pillars ate some chillie
And they dont regret it
Moonlord cooked some good chillie
Y e e s
Death chillie
Maybe the moonlord could actually have a couple of lines in his boss fight
Lmao that would be cool
🤔
Brb hiring willian cumberpatch
ruby cobalt
Right, I forgot to clarify what the "default pool" is.
ashen warren
Actually imagine moonlord with ryan renalds voice and he keeps messing up his lines with toon blast going off in the background
tired haven
Btw derpy stardust dragon = phantasmal dragon
tired haven
Cultist won't give one I guess
tired haven
10 hp dg*
arctic wren
lmao
arctic wren
10000 hp DoG head
ashen warren
10 hp instant kill dg
arctic wren
tired haven
Eidolists take 100 hits and it bothers no one for some reason
arctic wren
instant "go to hell" once the first bullet hell ends
ashen warren
99% dr SCal
tired haven
Aka enraged one
ashen warren
Dungeon guardian is given ws 1k
I bet you cant beat dungeon guardian, supreme calamitous, and the abyss worm with iron heart at once
opal barn
@worthy fiber wrong chat
elder kestrel
👏
worthy fiber
Anyway, purified jam's craftable in Apotheosis and Friends
elder kestrel
What's purified jam again?
shadow prism
Invincibility
elder kestrel
Ah
opal barn
btw why are you yellow again 
elder kestrel
Because piss good break
Craftable purified jam sounds epic but pretty broken since that shits good
shadow prism
It’s locked behind scal
faint rivet
But post SCal
elder kestrel
Ohhh I see, that's good
faint rivet
Still typing slow
elder kestrel
Purified jam is fun to mess around with so I like the idea
But the instant death thing in boss rush sounds ehhhhh
shadow prism
it’s anti cheese
otherwise you could farm scal and cheese the whole thing by spamming jam
elder kestrel
Sure cancel the buff out but instant death is just not good
elder kestrel
Even with the rush ending that's just annoying an really strict
Just not allowing the buff to apply/cancelling it out works
shadow prism
alright it now just cancels it
elder kestrel
Neat
arctic wren
make it say some sort of sarcastic message if you try to use it for the memes
marsh gust
a star from me
arctic wren
(and also to let the player know it isn't the game being weird or something, that it is in fact the item not being allowed to be used in boss rush)
shadow prism
imagine if chat just spammed “of all my segments to get hit by” at old dog speeds
arctic wren
marsh gust
rip chat
arctic wren
electro just gave me a better idea
make it so you can have the buff, but instead of it doing anything
It just does what electro said for the duration of the buff
marsh gust
just make the player blind like in p3 fishron smh
shadow prism
it now spams dog’s “are you honestly that bad at dodging” quote
marsh gust
honestly the player should be able to reply "yes"
also as someone who never uses purified jam because of the fact its limited, making it craftable is going to be so good.
shadow prism
Subzero Potion
Imbues the user’s weapons with various cold-related effects
Seems to be frozen solid
Made from 1 bottled water + 5 endothermic energy + [2 cryo or frigid bars (these can be changed)] at a Draedon’s forge
If you use the potion in this form, it just inflicts stoned for 10 seconds and does nothing else, because it’s literally just a block of ice. Combining it with a torch by hand or holding it over a campfire (like marshmallow on a stick) gives you a drinkable version of the potion with “Frozen solid” replaced with “Dethawed”
(Lasts for 10 minutes) Makes all weapons/attacks/etc inflict the following for 5 seconds each:
Frostburn, glacial state
Also grants a 1% chance for any attack to inflict exo freeze for 2 seconds
teal shoal
So basically omniblade wetdream, having 120chances in 2s duration to perma efreeze
shadow prism
Essentially yes
But yharon and scal are immune to exo freeze
So it’s more for memes and farming earlier bosses
tired haven
Are any bosses even vulnerable to exo freeze
shadow prism
Yes
worthy fiber
DS
tired haven
shadow prism
All calamity pre hm bosses, cryo, birb, all vanilla bosses
actually then what’s the point of exo freeze potion
also for some reason supreme soul seekers are immune
ashen warren
I like your idea electro, but I think it lacks some authentic calamity edge, especially since it does not once call the player "kid"
shadow prism
changed
placid warren
I have only one question. About suggestions; Is there a possibility to give a suggestion about boss ? Not vanilla, not calamity one... a suggestion for new boss.
shadow prism
Replace the 7 essences of chaos in eye of desolation’s recipe with 7 cores of chaos.
Reasons: 1. Many people skip calamitas and beat her after plantera or later, and some just skip her altogether. 2. After plantera, the game “opens up”, allowing for many more ways to fight calamitas as opposed to the comparatively small pool of gear that’s good for calamitas currently.
@placid warren No
placid warren
Very well.
ruby cobalt
Possibility? Yes.
Will those ever be accepted because all the bosses are planned out? Nope.
ruby cobalt
It's alright, at least you asked.
dense girder
@elder kestrel ty 
@ruby cobalt you would say "Will those ever be accepted? Nope, because all the bosses are planned out."
if you say it the way you said, it makes it sound like the bosses aren't planned out
just some english for the day 👍
ruby cobalt
🤔
ruby cobalt
This ain't it, chief.
dense girder
just trying to help because i had a fucking nice day okay 
ruby cobalt
You tried, it's appreciated.
dense girder
despacito thanks
isn't calamitous essence off-limits
for now at least until scal is normal progression
shadow prism
it’s ok to use
ruby cobalt
Shadowspec bars, however, are not okay due to them being a dev item.
dense girder
purified jam shouldn't need something that hard to get
i meant his suggestion drh
not the rules
ruby cobalt
Eh, it's alright.
Jam's original purpose is to allow you to skip through parts of difficult bosses so you can finally beat them.
dense girder
but if you're at the point in the game where you can now get calamitous essence to do that
the only boss you'll need to skip is supreme calamitas, as all the bosses before would be easy
maybe yharim when he comes along but it really is quite useless at that point
maybe divine geodes? they have almost no use
dense girder
what he say
ashen warren
"add new town npc"
dense girder
alpine garnet
dense girder
but then what if you farm Calamitas and Supreme Calamitas
raven lodge
its like the dryad
dense girder
no i mean
if you kill supreme calamitas, and want to kill her again for essence
how will you have both the NPC alive and her too
dense girder
draedon and yharim are already planned as bosses/npcs
so i don't think you can have them
stasis and braelor are dead
bitter topaz
"calamitas will probably move in once you defeat her, maybe recognising you could defeat yharim or something like that"
iirc fab said something along those lines when someone mentioned making her an NPC sometime last week
defeat =/= killed anyway
dense girder
tried to find him saying that
instead i got "clonelamitas may be the loli but supreme calamitas is a mid-20s hot babe"
raven lodge
thats why an item that seal the powers of calamitas but u need to defeat her 2 times or more
dense girder
also I found what I was looking for: "Maybe you can get the Calamitas NPC if you don't kill SCal in her last stage"
thin nymph
calabitas
dense girder
@ashen warren check pins
neon panther
resprite suggestion
low hedge
resprite dog or riot
fervent zealot
re re resprite dog when
ashen warren
I think dog needs an ai change
ashen warren
My last suggestion was a dog change lmao
fervent zealot
@sacred thorn he does, you getting hit by him teleporting 
night cradle
but you can see on minimap that he stops for a while when teleporting, so I don't know if that is neccessary
sacred thorn
Still would be a bit helpful fro people who don’t look at the minimap
night cradle
yeah
tired haven
Just run at full speed with hermes hurrdurr
ashen warren
It's literally king slime
tired haven
Tbh fixing brain to not teleport up your ass anytime anywhere > this
devout seal
@ashen warren Inanis is working on it already.
ashen warren
That I can agre with
shadow prism
Maybe make it sulphurous sand, abyss gravel and tenebris instead of just tenebris
hollow shell
Not sure how much value there is in doing that
shadow prism
Having it be just tenebris feels odd
Also sulphurous sand and abyss gravel are currently almost useless
shadow prism
Having a breathing gear being made of plant doesn’t really make sense tho
ruby cobalt
Produces oxygen for you.
hollow shell
Maybe it could be a part of the
filtration unit, iunno
Makes as much sense as including poison sand :P
shadow prism
True
shadow prism
Abyssal Heart
Grants the user the blessing of the abyss
Made from 1 abyssal diving suit + 1 lumenous amulet + 1 siren’s heart + 100 depth cells + 90 lumenyl + 80 tenebris + 60 abyss gravel + 40 sulphurous sand + 20 voidstone + 10 planty mush + 5 cosmilite bars + 5 phantoplasm at a Draedon’s forge
Inherits the effects of its components with two differences:
- The abyssal diving suit plates can no longer break
- It grants infinite breath time in layers 1 and 2 of the abyss
radiant meadow
wait, so permanent 25% dr?
that bypasses caps
in addition to the ice shield which is an addtional 25% dr bypassing caps with 30s cooldown
round falcon
id say the plates and the ice shield merge and have a reduced cooldown and maybe ~30% dr. Also permanent whatever that detection radius reduction effect
radiant meadow
I think reduced detection is already permanent
I also assume the abyssal heart would have both dangersense and hunter built into it
teal wolf
I think it would be cool to have those to combine
so it would basically give all combined effects except for speed reduc?
could make the plates like a small amount of flat dr
sleek wigeon
@tawny coral you mean a hammer/pickaxe/axe?
tawny coral
No because those would have the ability to do damage and do count as melees
Im talking about a weapon specifically designed to knock back foes and maybe buff minions but mainly knock back for the sake of space
Pickaxes hammers and axes are affected by Melee stats and melee accessories
Its why i carry a melee set on hand, super miner speed
radiant meadow
hammers, pickaxes, axes are whitelisted and don't nerf summons ;)
sleek wadi
Phase Drill as a legit summoner weapon
tawny coral
But those do have the issue of taking out chunks of arena
And they are designed to be tools not summon weapons
sleek wigeon
Tools have plenty of knockback and do suprisingly good damage.
Like the axe
for instance
or the pwn hammer
round falcon
Is Grax affected?
sleek wigeon
prolly
round falcon
Too op
sleek wigeon
Not really. Grax is a p slow weapon, can only swing like twice a second
hollow shell
@little raptor big
little raptor
🅱 ig
hollow shell
I recommend unbig
little raptor
un🅱ig
hollow shell
Send that instead.
I guess.
unbigged
and also explain yourself cuz I don't know what this is
sturdy latch
Hmm....
quiet abyss
DDT? iirc I have seen a couple DDT suggestions before. Though each person has a different idea for its effects
lost agate
Lead core sound like a fair ingredient
sleek wigeon
I think everyone agrees that a ddt should be faster than moab
quiet abyss
DDT has the properties of lead bloon afterall so it’d fit somewhat
sleek wigeon
lead core would be very flavorful
sleek wigeon
Maybe it would be an alt to the normal post ml wing boots
lost agate
Burden breaker
sleek wigeon
So having the boots
quiet abyss
DDT in its game series (Bloons) also is immune to normal explosions and is camo. Its also tied for the fastest bloon in the series
Just a couple things you can base your ideas on
quiet abyss
Not normal explosion sorry
Bomb tower
Bomb tower deal 0 damage to it since it has black bloon properties as well
And mortar
lost agate
If made strong enough, ddt can be post ML
quiet abyss
Mhm
lost agate
And lead core would fit
sturdy latch
MOAB, Lead core, Burden Breaker, Shroomite bars
So far.
sleek wigeon
Should be post ml anyhow
sturdy latch
What could be a good ingredient to represent it's explosive resistance.
sturdy latch
The MOAB is what it's based on.
R90 states that a DDT is just a MOAB crossed with lead, black, and pink
quiet abyss
Hmm you could make it post ml by simply adding in luminite bars, even if that may not make much sense
sturdy latch
Not much sense
lost agate
Explosion resistance might be....
Luminite?
I think they cant blow up
sturdy latch
i forgot camo reeee
quiet abyss
Then again moab has frog leg in its recipe
lost agate
@sturdy latch thats why i said shroomite
sturdy latch
Yes that.
Not about that, but what I was saying about R90's comment
Well, not to the recipe, I was just ignorant enough to forget the main property.
devout seal
DDTs aren't explosive resistant.
lost agate
They are
sturdy latch
Wait.
devout seal
hell, explosives are how you do anything to them.
quiet abyss
They are
sturdy latch
They are.
devout seal
They're immune to everything but explosives.
quiet abyss
Nonono
lost agate
They have black bloon property
sturdy latch
They're immune to anything but PLASMA.
devout seal
What?
lost agate
Look at his color
quiet abyss
Lead camo and black
sturdy latch
Lead/Camo/Black
lost agate
They are that too
devout seal
Well that's fairly dumb.
quiet abyss
Agreed tbh
lost agate
And fast as a pink/yellow one
devout seal
Yeah, they're bloody unfair.
quiet abyss
Only very specific monkeys/upgrades can damage them
Or, alternatively
That one monkey village upgrade
lost agate
@sturdy latch what about adding the recipe to the suggestion?
quiet abyss
That make all towers can deal damage to things that are supposed to be immune to them
sleek wigeon
and usually come in spaced groups of 3s just for added fuckage
sleek wigeon
and welcome
lost agate
Then again, the homing would be equally as weird
lost agate
devout seal
That'd be neat.
spark flax
so
from looking at every suggestion within the last three weeks or so
i have to conclude that everybody fucking LOVES the Crystalline and Undine's Retribution
spark flax
im not making fun or anything, i love them too
digital sparrow
I know
spark flax
i just find it amusing how many people have suggested them
neon panther
why?
radiant meadow
oh god, that would be an interesting no hit
ancient dragon
@paper torrent Y'wanna add some substance or actual reasoning to that suggestion there?
lost agate
Wow, an undine's related suggestion is doing great, good to see that
@ancient dragon he may mean, fighting all three of them at once, but yeah, pretty incomplete sentence
ashen warren
probably because this one is well formatted and sounds good
ancient dragon
I mean, I'm just concerned that he tossed the idea out into the void with no rhyme or reason to it.
lost agate
And people want to kill provi with his own weapons
ashen warren
it would be sweet justice to squash that stupid butterfly with her own spears
i approve
lost agate
Now we need a weapon that shoots flames that ignore i frames and do twice as much damage on DM
marsh gust
do it
lost agate
The only question is...
Is that spear thing a drop or craftable
jolly mirage
"but themed like the other Providence drops"
lost agate
Yep
jolly mirage
" It also fits the boss as a drop, emulating Providences fire spear attack"
lost agate
Dont mind me
jolly mirage
minding you
lost agate
Lunaris, youre not helping
hollow shell
@rough basin You playing on the most recent version, from the #mod-downloads channel?
I ask because all mod music was raised a few updates ago
And last I checked in-game, it's actually slightly louder than Terraria's music now
rough basin
no, from browser. did they fix the sound isue?
hollow shell
Browser version is out of date, yes
hollow shell
Hopefully this upcoming update will be on the browser, but we'll have to see when we get there
neon panther
browser doesn’t like Fab
hollow shell
Calamity's frickin big in terms of filesize
Mod Browser had to raise its bandwidth limits many times just to accommodate for it
rough basin
ah.
hollow shell
Cuz we have so much music
rough basin
good ol dm dokuro'
neon panther
is the music actually the biggest part of the files?
hollow shell
Definitely
rough basin
music compresses poorly
neon panther
I never knew that :p
hollow shell
The Sounds folder makes up 111MB of Calamity's 128MB source
neon panther
lmao okay
sinful violet
tired haven
Thanks DM Dokuro
(No seriously)
sinful violet
epic style
hollow shell
I mean we totally could compress the files more, so it gets under 100MB at least
I don't know when it would start audibly affecting sound quality
tired haven
It always does but the question is how obscure it is
hollow shell
(also Goomba you can delete your music suggestion cuz that is fixed in the most recent version)
neon panther
let’s get it to 20mb
hollow shell
I don't know the point where somebody would summon a Calamity boss and say "oof, this sounds compressed"
That's the
bad point
tired haven
I mean, technically, it is already compressed quite a bit
hollow shell
Yeah, they're all MP3s
neon panther
question, the files of the music themselves are they looped once? for example say a song is 2 minutes, is the file 4 minutes of song? Because iirc the videos themselves on dokuro’s channel are looped once
tired haven
Because it was like 2mb/min for soundcloud tracks
And no, ingame files are not looped
neon panther
ok good
tired haven
You can hear cut loop in slime god fight for example
ashen warren
I always hear a cut in Yharon's rebirth theme
hollow shell
Mm, it's pretty apparent in some songs
ashen warren
but I do agree that the Onyx Chain Blaster should be lowered a bit
hollow shell
Actually, it seems like I can compress these music files to about 2/3rds of their original size without an audible difference
(to me, anyway. audiophiles could probably pick up on it)
I might just do that in prep for the next update
rough basin
good luck
heady comet
Just split the mod into two if it takes up too much space
lost agate
Impossible suggestion @rough basin
neon panther
calamity 2, electric boogaloo
marsh gust
thats.. actually a good point, why not split it into 2?
like have one for post ml content n one for pre
hollow shell
Nah nah
heady comet
Twice the problems when uploading to tmod
rough basin
sounds like a headache
hollow shell
I'm compressing the files right now so it should be fine
marsh gust
right.. more work in coding
tired haven
Calamity musicless and Music pack tho