And that is a name of a weapon
#suggestions-discussion
toxic pagoda
hollow shell
You should come up with an actual upgrade idea, with a name and a crafting recipe and function
hollow shell
👍
toxic pagoda
It deserves to be legendary
hollow shell
lmao, if you wanna be able to use it (or a version of it) after it outdates, why not make it available in the current version?
Draedon's not coming for a while
toxic pagoda
Oh I know
But it’s paradoxical, and I’m aware of it
I miss it after it outdates, but like at the same time I feel like this point in the game is when it will be necessary
hollow shell
Alright man, you do you. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
toxic pagoda
Ok
vague laurel
@tawny coral an item in a really big furniture mod that was recently updated has an item called a 3d printer to make decorations
toxic pagoda
@hollow shell How about Oath of the Cultist
toxic pagoda
Cause it’s a freaking cultist dawg
Actually a book weapon would make more sense for that...
I just wanted to be unique besides the word “staff”
fervent zealot
oath of the cultist sounds a lot more like a lore item than a weapon
fervent zealot
honestly it could do with a resprite and a rebranding
toxic pagoda
I mean I hate using the word “staff” so much but I guess this is an exception
The weapon itself maybe but the way it works
Hell no
hollow shell
@inland acorn You gotta include your reasoning in your suggestion
ashen warren
damnit @hollow shell
hollow shell
Yeah I think he's being a nonce on purpose
@little raptor Use this channel for discussing suggestions
frosty kindle
Big brain @little raptor
hollow shell
sleek wigeon
I feel like memestarring it ngl
dull kite
ijones no
cyan lagoon
@little raptor don't do stupid suggestions like that please
hollow shell
I would say to delete Cheerio's too but I guess it's fine if it just goes unstarred
...
Bro you're already warned, don't skirt on gettin muted
cyan lagoon
Do not.
little raptor
wow what an asshole, ok, i understand
frosty kindle
...
frosty kindle
Welp its your job guys since im on mobile
cyan lagoon
Well.
sleek wigeon
Tbh, rename mirror blade mirror's edge
cyan lagoon
Back to discussing suggestions, please.
sleek wigeon
That is a suggestion smh
hollow shell
Don't meme too, ijones
sleek wigeon
:( fine
cobalt lotus
ok
fervent zealot
he generally doesn't despawn @strong jacinth
cobalt lotus
why would you run away from yharon
fervent zealot
like, i have actually never seen yharon despawn once in all the fuckery i've done
cobalt lotus
^
sleek wigeon
How do you get too far away from yharon?
isnt that what the big too tornadoes are for?
sleek wadi
What kind of bizarre strat are you doing that'll have you get too far away from him? You trying to circle him with a mechanical minecart?
fervent zealot
you can tp past them with good timing but even then he just enrages
sleek wigeon
Doesnt work
left sparrow
oh- I thought it did.
sleek wigeon
you'd get fucked by tornadoes
left sparrow
Rod of discord ya hek
fervent zealot
you can actually tp past the nadoes
cobalt lotus
if you have silva armor you can easily get through tornadoes
fervent zealot
or walk under them
left sparrow
By the way. What do you think of my idea for Providence's crystal?
I think it would be a fun addition, but would it really be something that should be added?
cobalt lotus
I mean providence is the second boss post moonlord, so you could still ride the momentum of last prism
sleek wadi
Yea due to their cross map chasing the chicken nuggets won't let you lose to them
left sparrow
But the crystal can manage to deal more damage than the last prism, and is like yharim's crystal in that it's super op, and meant for fun. However, the crystal is only so powerful till you fight DOG
alpine garnet
problem with crystal
is that by the time you get it the only boss you care about is scal
cobalt lotus
last prism can kill DoG smh
left sparrow
and that's one of the problems Providence's crystal kinda fixes.
alpine garnet
and it has good dps on scal, but requres lots of focusing so it isn't even that good
left sparrow
Plus, it does more than just destroy with raw damage.
It causes the enemy to explode, and inflicts the holy flames debuff
So it's got some unique mechanics compared to the other two, which is something I feel like Calamity likes to do to the game: Add unique toys to play with.
cobalt lotus
Would it be on par or better than the other weapons at that point in the game
left sparrow
It's meant to be super op compared to other weapons at that point.
cobalt lotus
Because post providence you can steamroll polterghast and get the abyss weapons
left sparrow
more of a 'fun toy if you get it' kind of weapon
cobalt lotus
alright
left sparrow
but, I feel like quite a few weapons embrace that kind of idea.
so it would fit the game, IMO
lunar berry
Fun toy if you get it
Super op for its time
Sounds a lot like the halibut cannon
Also the modifiers on summon weapons are good but +2 summons with each +17% damage is just way too op
left sparrow
Exactly- but we only have a couple of those, and I think that we need at least on of those per stage in the calamity mod.
This crystal would be a perfect addition to that gap.
Good point
Very good point
We already have DOG's melee legendary, so we've got the cheaty legendary
so what would we do for a summon?
left sparrow
Hm....
proven tide
A sentry like the Rainbow Crystal Staff that just unleashes hell on everything
left sparrow
Well, think about Providence
proven tide
not a techy turret please ;~;
left sparrow
we should have a vortex staff-type thing that fires beams of lasers that make the enemy explode with profaned energy, and get inflicted with the holy flames debuff
proven tide
I was thinking a tiny Void (as in, CV) that spams dark energy projectiles?
left sparrow
Eh, that's not really providence's thing.
left sparrow
So my idea would work a lot better.
Lemme edit it, then. I'll put it on suggestions again once I fix it up
summon is a good idea, right?
aight
desert juniper
that one guy who crammed like 5 suggestions into one lol
hollow shell
waaaaalllll
hollow shell
@ashen warren You don't need to include stats with your suggestion. In fact, it's discouraged. Just list out the materials that you think should have slimes to drop from
sinful violet
i'm not starrin that either
ashen warren
Um, ok
hollow shell
Also, remove Calamitous Essence from that list
we've got a policy of
staying as far away from that material as possible in #suggestions-voting
frosty kindle
Developer stuff
sinful violet
Check the pins
worthy fiber
Besides, boss materials should only be dropped by the bosses themselves
e.g. Frigid bars or Luminite
Which is the reason why no matter how hard you try there won't be another luminite method
You'll just have to murder ML again
left sparrow
Alright, I put the edit of my idea back on suggestions, if you want to see it!
left sparrow
I think that it's only gonna be better with an alternate attack
ashen warren
No, i just removed calamitous slime
sleek wadi
Edited my suggestion to be more specific. Also neat weapon idea.
lost agate
Artyom suggestion in a nutshell :
Make a slime for every drop smh
ashen warren
Oh ok
left sparrow
Yeah, thanks for the people telling me about what the weapon could really be!
real parrot
stats will be defined by fabsol if the idea gets accepted
so it's basically pointless to include them
left sparrow
Right.
real parrot
things like recipes and drops can be included though
left sparrow
The point of suggestions(From what I'm getting) Is to say your idea, and let the actual modders do the rest.
real parrot
basically
left sparrow
If your idea is good enough, then it will be included in the game.
ashen warren
Now it more shorter
left sparrow
A tip
lost agate
Dude erase the "stats:" and such 
left sparrow
Remove the percentages and stats, let the owners make that decision
left sparrow
Our job as a community is to give them ideas, not tell them what to do.
And make it fun all the while! 😄
ashen warren
Also i removed percentages like you said
left sparrow
Alrighty
Btw, for those who may have starred my magic-crystal idea, go back in and star the updated version that's summoner instead, as the magical version was deleted. That idea wasn't gonna work well, and wasn't quite as unique as it could have been. This update should work, though!
hollow shell
Thank you Artyom
frosty kindle
Good stuff Artyom
arctic wren
"Make it so that yharon doesn't despawn if you somehow get to far away"
proven tide
could probably just say "Drops Cosmilite" instead of
"Drops:
Cosmilite"
arctic wren
now all I can think of is yharon flying to your base after you die and killing all your npcs with maximum prejudice 2500 damage charges
left sparrow
@lilac creek Would the upgrade's main projectile also move faster? Bosses get more intense the farther you go.
Ah, gotcha
Cool, I like the idea!
Maybe you could include it with a new elemental weapon 😮
Like, the final upgrade could be part of a post-ML element weapon
Ah.
Well, I was thinking of maybe a pre-providence elemental weapon
Aight, I'll stop critisizing your great idea XD
I'm excited to see whether or not the ideas get brought into the game. The stuff I've seen is amazing.
I may have updated the description of the primary and secondary attacks for my weapon idea.
hearty yew
@sleek wadi allowing a directional dash completely changes the meta
just a friendly warning
arctic wren
directional dash suggestion?
hearty yew
a lot of the problem with dodging in terraria is not being able to fall fast enough
hearty yew
or not being able to ascend fast enough
and shield slams / tabi dashes are already 100% mandatory
arctic wren
hell
hearty yew
calamity is built assuming you have them
hearty yew
it's a melee weapon, it doesn't push you far, it has a slow speed and awkward animation
so it's a pain to use
but it would still be the
"oh quick hit 2 and click to dodge"
( yes I realize it doesnt give iframes )
To your credit, you've made it awkward and limited enough it is probably not that broken
But mobility creep is a very serious problem already
arctic wren
I mean just compare end-game mobility to even when you just kill moonlord
celestial tracers are insane compared to say angel treads + misc wings
sleek wadi
I did consider the possibility of discount infinite flight but I don't have an answer to it that wouldn't invalidate the bean and slime mounts
left sparrow
What if you used the dodge with this weapon as a shield bash? Or is this already a part of the weapon?
left sparrow
Like, make it a part of combat. The more times you hit the enemy, the more damage the bash deals? How's that? Or are you afraid of getting hit with this?
Oh- I see what you're doing with this.
Nvm, I'm just taking this a different direction
sleek wadi
You either use RoD, or you use Momentum Masher. In fact I just edited it to inflict Chaos State so that you couldn't RoD into a dash
left sparrow
..So it's RoD without the teleport is what you're saying.
sleek wadi
And limited range, and being hard to control, and deals one last bit of damage before getting out of your targets face
Beyond preference, only True Melee would use this over RoD
left sparrow
Question: Would the push deal more knockback than the primary?
Or maybe it could knock back your character more if you hit a boss with the secondary. True melee works with pure mobility, and you gotta be that annoying fly when fighting a boss
I'm just giving out ideas for ways to make it better. RoD is super useful, so, IMO, I think that the Masher would be just as, if not more, useful.
wanton sun
Actually now that I think about it my coin idea is kinda weird
An item in a coin slot
So maybe it would be better if it was a consumable
dense girder
another thrower emblem suggestion 
this one is cool though because instead of mad statz like the kool kids keep adding it's just extra damage and throwing item kept chance like the other emblems
ashen warren
Another one 
echo notch
theres always an ice mirror if theres no magic mirror ........
sleek wigeon
@molten nova recall pots are craftable and super common. Good replacement for mirror early game
molten nova
ah good point, ive forgotten so much about terraria vOv
worthy fiber
and another RotJD suggestion
ashen warren
iirc that's already going to happen
worthy fiber
It's being changed in the next update @fossil torrent
fossil torrent
woo
frail mantle
@ashen warren so basically just an Exoblade Shortsword?
ashen warren
Maybe ;-;
Terra shiv is Terra Blade shortsword ;-;
Elemental shiv is Ark of Elements shortsword ;-;
That would be cool
signal ibex
Are the stats necessary tho
ashen warren
KIRA!!
signal ibex
Bites the dust
signal ibex
radiant meadow
btw, for the reason, do you mean viable true melee post dog?
stellar striker exists and is really strong
signal ibex
yes
lost agate
@radiant meadow the thing is about to get nerfed tho
radiant meadow
that's why it needs modifiers that have little effect on combat
cyan lagoon
not necessarily a nerf
but actually something that balances it with other classes
voltaic climax and cosmic energy melt bosses faster than hot whipped cream
lost agate
Which is why its nerfed (not for summoner)
arctic wren
"Allow the Cosmic Immaterializer to get modifiers that do not increase damage similar to how the Coin Gun can get modifiers.
Although it's a summon, reduced mana cost and faster summon speed can add some quality of life to the game."
they're pretty much useless on normal summons that you need to summon more than once
why do you think either stat would make a difference for a summon that can only be summoned once?
radiant meadow
this is actually just so I can abuse the immaterializer bug where you can spam its projectiles when you don't have enough minion slots
left sparrow
@ashen warren Stop putting the stats in the suggestion, just say your idea Xd
left sparrow
I guess
lost agate
I mean as the channel its called, its a suggestion
Stats can be changed but its ok to give an option already
jolly mirage
That "One Word Description" was fine back when they were summoning items. But now that they're accessories (two of which just have background effects), we should be able to know what they do
lost agate
Exactly
As a summon it doesnt really matter because you realize it as soon as you use it, but as an accesory is more complex to know
Ofc wiki is an option but still
jolly mirage
The Eldritch and Dimensional are the worst offenders
ashen warren
@left sparrow ok
jolly mirage
Eldritch doesn't even affect Melee users, and Dimensional makes you take more dmg
And you probably wouldn't know that unless you looked it up
radiant meadow
godly is the most self explanatory one
it only has 1 effect that's immediately visible
increasing minions by 8 for 2 free nuggets
jolly mirage
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that one
tired haven
I mean void of (smth) dropped by doppelcal has "Cursed?" as tooltip and it means jack shit too
Hidden stats are good depth as long as they aren't overdone, and these three artifacts aren't imho
radiant meadow
Well, when there is hidden stats that aren't even on the wiki, there's a problem
tired haven
Except they are on wiki 
radiant meadow
the wiki says nothing about +15% throwing dmg bypassing caps on eldritch page
tired haven
Well wiki can be not full at times
I don't think it has correct true melee page still for example
But yeah, this is issue
radiant meadow
true, there is three things that rely on true melee and they all have different standards
counter scarf is the most strict but it boosts shield of cthulhu for some reason
neon panther
when the wiki editors get a newer version of source code, we will update the wiki to have all the exact stats for them
hearty yew
I've been thinking about making a yharims gift buff suggestion, and others have done it before
@hollow shell what's the status on yharim's gift suggestions
I don't want to beat a dead horse
Searching the history of #suggestions-voting it appears a few specific people find it underwhelming
but nobody has a concrete improvement strategy
lost agate
Maybe being able to reflect bullets?
I mean
Its ok as long as it can help with scal smh
hearty yew
I don't think making it an arbitrary item for the next boss is a great idea.
ruby cobalt
arbitrary item for the next boss
Ye, I kind of agree, but at the same time Yharim's Gift is so bad that it warrants some sort of buff.
vague olive
Maybe something similar to the way yharon heals before he switches to phase 2, something along the lines of "heals to full health and gives the player a 20% damage boost, but halves player defense when the player goes under 10% hp"
hearty yew
mod is already chock full of revives
Don't forget nebulous core exists
yeah that's right! That's an accessory!
alpine copper
Reviviulous core
hearty yew
my current idea is based off of a thirst for battle. it grants its current damage and defense boosts and, as you continue to deal damage, your boosts increase. Getting hit removes all your extra bonuses, but summons a massive swarm of flaming meteors -- the more bonus you had accumulated, the more meteors.
not dealing damage makes the boost wear off without dropping meteors
radiant meadow
This would have a cap I assume?
like :cough: tarragon ranged and bloodflare mage :cough:
hearty yew
yeah, my idea was the actual boost would have a cap, but the meteor storm wouldn't
sort of like the player is lashing out in anger
There are plenty of directions you can take yharim's gift in
Right now it's just a ball of stats that randomly emits damage fields which aren't even that useful
alpine copper
Oathblade would inflict shadowflame and true oathblade would additionally inflict cursed flames
ruby cobalt
Oh fuck no, don't boost FO and TFO any further.
hearty yew
I don't want to make an aimless unhelpful suggestion, I want a concrete idea to suggest
But I don't know what I want the accessory to do, I want it to be unique and feel like it was worth slaying yharon for
molten nova
is the firestorm not giving me buyable flares intentional? i feel like im never going to find another flare gun
hearty yew
Only the vanilla flare gun will allow you to buy flares. I suppose this is an oversight, though it's a good suggestion.
molten nova
ye, the wiki says you guys know about it.. so i was wondering if its intended like that
hearty yew
Feel free to suggest it. I wouldn't count it as a bug.
molten nova
cool, thankyou good sir
delicate raft
I've always wanted to translate to spanish 
hollow shell
@ruby cobalt ???
ruby cobalt
Nani?
Oh, ye, about that one. Every time I asked him about offering translations to the mod he just ignored them. Probably should've pinged him.
ruby cobalt
Oh ye, I've pinged him once, he just ignored that.
If it's about keeping the source safe - he can ask people who've leaked certain details to me.
delicate raft
What if people made docs with all the translations?
ruby cobalt
You see, here's the problem.
All the translations are stored in item files.
Meaning you need access to the source, which is the thing that only Wiki Editors have.
And even then, they have the outdated one.
night cradle
@radiant pawn They're called Dark Energies.
radiant pawn
ah, thank you
jolly mirage
Speaking of: I actually really like the idea. If it's not too much trouble with the Astral Biome expansion that's in progress rn, I'd really love to see some new Death Mode exclusive attacks. Expert Mode does it really well, so I couldn't even imagine what The Calamity Mod development team could do with it
ruby cobalt
There are rev+ attacks already.
jolly mirage
There are?
ruby cobalt
Yup.
lost agate
Yes
dense girder
yes
jolly mirage
Oops
lost agate
Cryo has some ice mines i believe
jolly mirage
Srry, I've never played Rev mode before, and I hadn't known about any of them
ruby cobalt
I don't see why Death attacks should be neglected though, granted they're good.
sleek wadi
There are, but they aren't the desperation-styled kinda attacks this dude is suggesting.
The extend of added attacks is like, EoW having a cursed flamethrower IIRC
lost agate
Doggo appearing outta nowhere in DM?
No thanks
dense girder
imagine if there was a 10% chance of DoG spawning every night
lost agate
Also, cryo is hard to dodge already if you dont get the shield down
And CV is a contained void, so the idea is a little eh
Also, cryo already has something that slows you down
left sparrow
This DM attack idea's genius
lost agate
Not all that much honestly
frail mantle
Pretty much the only major DM change in Doggo is that getting hit by the head is instant death
hollow shell
And permablack background
radiant meadow
the background being black the entire time too
hollow shell
mh
lost agate
And having him to tp near you at fast speed with possibilities of instakill is just 
So i disagree with that part of the suggestion
unique vector
i mean
it would be pretty fun to have him tele into his world, then come back
i have an idea
in the last 100% of his HP in dm (where he stops his laser walls), every 30 seconds he shifts into his dimension and regains HP (20%) for 5 seconds, then a portal opens up near the player. it would stay open for a few seconds before doggo actually shoots out towards the player, giving them time to react. then, when he reaches 10% HP, he gains a lot of damage resistance and teleports the player into his dimension where they fight
the last part is just an affect to connect to doggo's lore but its prob impossible in terraria 
inland acorn
they should nerf megafleet
radiant meadow
pretty sure you're not allowed to suggest a nerf to a dev weapon
fervent zealot
why do you want megafleet nerfed so badly
radiant meadow
I heard megafleet is one of the worse dev weapons anyways
lunar berry
interesting
timber gale
@radiant meadow TIL what the Soul Piercer does
radiant meadow
what?
timber gale
Today I Learned
radiant meadow
oh, I mean the weapon isn't exactly good for any bosses besides birb anyways but it's pretty cool
If it had longer range, it would be better
Actually, I should add that to the suggestion
timber gale
I would have figured it to be completely unrelated to the ele ray
proven tide
ohhh nooo
cyan lagoon
Meeeme
arctic wren
delicate raft
Why
heady comet
Prepare to be obliterated :hellyes:
arctic wren
cyan lagoon
@rigid spoke no meme suggestions
lunar berry
hmm
cyan lagoon
Going to warn you
ashen warren
lmao nice
lunar berry
does that count as spam or are mods allowed to do that
arctic wren
neon panther
what was his suggestion am i allowed to know
neon panther
nice
radiant meadow
I kind of wish that could be a thing
arctic wren
cyan lagoon
@eager ivy ☑ 'd it since a suggestion like that has been sent to the devs a while ago
You can keep it up, though
neon panther
Question, will we be alerted if one of our suggestions is getting in or will we just have to wait until it either appears or never appears in #changelogs?
quiet abyss
Most likely the latter
Though the former may be possible as well
neon panther
I liked that one suggestion of another reaction for suggestions that went well with the devs
but it also could be a DM or something
idk I’d just enjoy having some alert to it
cyan lagoon
Has been suggested many times now
arctic wren
I recall people making the same reactions to my one than to others
then why wasn't it blue checkered 🤔
just curious
cyan lagoon
Only subsequent suggestions after it get checked
quiet abyss
It's the first one to get checked, basically
arctic wren
Ah, I see
cyan lagoon
Its not really official but it may as well be imo
arctic wren
thanks
quiet abyss
Oh and btw
Old infernal catharsis plays for pre-darksun Yharon phase one
So all three themes get to play
cyan lagoon
I just do it to let people know another suggestion like that has been sent to the dev server
neon panther
should I suggest what I was talking about earlier or nah
radiant pawn
@unique vector ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR READING MY MIND BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT I MEANT FOR DOGGO
digital sparrow
The voice actor already exists, but putting the lines into the game would be cool
sleek wigeon
Please no, not my precious scal voice headcanon ):<
digital sparrow
Just watch Dokuros OST videos for Calamitas
Your headcanon will either be reinforced or completely broken
neon panther
spoiler: she’s British
jolly mirage
spoiler: she's female
neon panther
no she’s not
jolly mirage
neon panther
I love you butnat the same time no meme suggestions, @elder kestrel handle this
neon panther
elder kestrel
Which one
neon panther
the very most recent one
elder kestrel
That's not a meme suggestion
neon panther
I’m sorry what
elder kestrel
It's not a meme suggestion
neon panther
how is it not a meme suggestion?
elder kestrel
I don't know man but it doesn't look like one to me
ashen warren
Sword art online abridged is a comedy skit thing
neon panther
fair enough
vague laurel
Reference =/= meme
neon panther
sorry for the ping then
signal ibex
That was supposed to be the projectile but alright
neon panther
If I was the one receiving the suggestions I’d say it was a meme still, but I’m not
But whatever, moving on I guess
marsh gust
the yoyo suggestion seems OP to me ._. idk
wintry raptor
it seems like overkill
it has 2 special abilities
either one would be fine
the laser one feels like it'd need to do very little damage though
and it creates lots of projectiles that don't mean much
marsh gust
now when its post ml it seems fine for me xD but probably should have the 80%ish DPS of the terrarian
wintry raptor
Its impossible to make the lasers good for killing packs of mobs without making it overtuned on single target imo
But the lasers feel tacked on
signal ibex
WRRRRRRY
hollow shell
okay
signal ibex
Imagine a full sized pet yharon
Oh boy
That would be epic
@paper torrent Why tho
Whats the reason
paper torrent
So it's look cool.
signal ibex
Your next line is: So its look cool
Crap you said it first.
Also what's the meaning of those blue ballot boxes
opal barn
That it has already been suggested and passed
To the dev server that is
Doesn't mean it will get added iirc
tired haven
@ RoverdriveX#7729 you've got some lightspeed reaction lul
ruby cobalt
More like notifications on every message.
worthy fiber
Don't break the illusion
ruby cobalt
ashen warren
@balmy flame please elaborate more on your suggestions and crabulon most likely isn't going to receive a buff
balmy flame
Tbh crabulon is called a god but is a complete push over. He should at least have the powers of a god.
worthy fiber
He's not a god anymore
Just some dead crab on shrooms
Go check out the updated lore
balmy flame
How dare you desecrate his image, I refuse to take these lies sitting down!
worthy fiber
he dead now
rigid spoke
What? When did the lore change?
worthy fiber
Months back
rigid spoke
As his cult leader I ask why?
spark flax
i was under the impression that ultimate being crabulon was just a joke made by someone or other that managed to get onto the wiki
given that the lore drop item in game was, afaict, always "A crab and its mushrooms, a love story"
worthy fiber
Vandalism? In our wiki? Never.
Anyway the crab god thing was a big meme and now it's gone
balmy flame
You shall never dethrone crabulon
ashen warren
alpine garnet
wow
quiet abyss
@sturdy dock We have another meme suggestion on our hands
worthy fiber
The crabulon thing?
ruby cobalt
Reason: the keybrand is currently useless.
So is that sword, next!
worthy fiber
shadow prism
Make mourningstar leave a cloud/trail of damaging solar dust behind its projectiles and possibly make it inflict more/better debuffs. Could also be reworked so it ignores i frames with reduced damage. Almost no one uses this weapon, and melee really suffers post DoG.
alpine garnet
Do the keys do damage or something? Because shadow keys are kinda useless post golem
ruby cobalt
Mourningstar is a direct downgrade from Solar Eruption btw.
neon panther
I think a keybrand upgrade is a neat idea
but dropping keys is just useless
night cradle
Maybe it would fire keys when hitting or it wouldnt be a true melee weapon and just fire them?
heady comet
Rain down trillions of keys from the sky like stellar striker
night cradle
- Biome keys can be easily aquired from Cryo, Plantera, Astrum and WoF
@heady comet yes 
alpine garnet
could be damaging keys that spawn upon hitting enemies maybe
pseudo fossil
are yoyos actually a meme in suggestions?
signal ibex
They will be
signal ibex
ashen warren
hey please don't meme in here
low hedge
auricauricauric
hollow shell
@sinful violet You forgot to deliver this when you checked it . _.
sinful violet
What
Oh fuck
I forgot about that because I got confused with the new logging system
hollow shell
Should I deliver?
hollow shell
Aight
hollow shell
It's alright
Just remember the protip to deliver first and check it later
To prevent this
night cradle
Short question; are Terra weapons crafted via Mythril Anvil?
radiant meadow
perennial yoyo is quagmire iirc
tired haven
Yes iirc?
night cradle
Ah.
night cradle
To the Terra one?
tired haven
Yeah
dense girder
cirrus suggesting
radiant meadow
elemental ray is crafted at ancient manipulator
tired haven
radiant meadow
can't he just put it in himself?
dense girder
bitter topaz
ancient dragon
@ancient widget Please, no low-effort suggestions.
tired haven
This is quite likely to be 1st suggestion implemented from channel
ancient dragon
bitter topaz
that's some pretty good memeing from fab tbh
tired haven
ancient dragon
And don't talk in the suggestions channel either smhhhhh.
Do I have to call a mod???
ancient widget
Honestly it's an incredibly important suggestion and it shoulda been made ages ago probably
tired haven
Yes
radiant meadow
owner breaking the rules of his server
tired haven
Call the mod
cyan lagoon
fabstol shitposting in #suggestions-voting
ancient dragon
Alright, that's enough.
@ancient widget Deal with this asshole.
cyan lagoon
time to- shot
dense girder
@the mod
tired haven
Self-ban 
ancient dragon
ancient widget
So in order for a suggestion to be valid you need to talk forever about things that make you not want to read the suggestion?
shadow prism
Fab by any chance could you add a different reaction to suggestions that are being worked on/seriously considered?
ancient widget
Sounds like the beginning of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
dense girder
that's not a good idea
people would get a little pissy over other peoples' suggestions being worked on but not theirs
and those people with working suggestions would probably flaunt it as much as they could
best just leave it ambiguous
radiant meadow
so why would you put the same thing in #suggestions-voting and #changelogs ?
shadow prism
Ok
tired haven
Sad but could see why
ancient widget
Until I either post things in #changelogs or when the update comes out.
radiant meadow
well, if abyssal diving suit gets underwater breathing, I'll know why
tired haven
everyone totally would not copy formatting of suggestion that got in
dense girder
waiting for fab to use my abyss rework suggestion jk it's too big but people can dream
tired haven
I actually wonder if someone of stuff telling me that true melee abyss post-polter weapon coming was irony, lie or just got forgotten
ancient widget
I can respond to that immediately. It won't be getting something to totally counter the abyss effects, only thing I'll do is buff the underwater abilities of it.
dense girder
@radiant meadow
radiant meadow
yeah, I meant it just should have underwater breathing outside abyss
I was messing around with polterghast and water when I realized I still needed a gills potion
ancient widget
oh lol, well that's stupid yeah
didn't ever realize that since I only use it in the abyss
I'll fix it
hollow shell
Ayy
ancient widget
It wasn't exactly explained well to me when I saw it
I thought it was just to make it counter all abyss breathing
dense girder
Cirrus, you saw the big bad abyss suggestion doc that me, Bidoof and Szavak made a while ago, right?
While I think it's fairly obvious the whole things not getting implemented I was wondering if you might be taking anything from it for the mod, since I'm curious as to if we didn't argue for 3 hours for nothing the abyss might get a bit more spice in the future
hollow shell
Keep in mind there's an entirely separate and equally fleshed out Abyss revamp suggestion we have access to as well
dense girder
I realise but I'm just really curious if any of the mobs in particular made it, since we enjoyed making those the absolute best
hollow shell
Ah, quick, we need an emote for suggestions that have been officially accepted
dense girder
blue tick box
hollow shell
No
dense girder
🏁
sleek wigeon
Birblove
hollow shell
That's good
sleek wigeon
birblove is far more deserving than yourdidit and wack
radiant meadow
there's 9 open slots pretty sure
sleek wigeon
Yeah, 9 open slots
tired haven
Can't kill salt
sleek wigeon
theres no reason to kill salt
dense girder
9 open slots? add them all
sleek wigeon
Only add the best emotes that are most deserving
hollow shell
And here I was planning on the Suggestion update being after this one
Which could still happen, but cool to see the littler ones being accepted now
dense girder
added particles to stationary blocks so that bad PC users are now instantly dead
radiant meadow
@radiant meadow congrats on your suggestions being accepted
but really, suggestions being accepted are good like the voodoo doll recipe
hollow shell
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(someone pin this)
dense girder
@ashen warren hi sorry for the ping could you pin this
ashen warren
hollow shell
Thank you sir
ashen warren
no problem
hollow shell
I don't think I ever explained what the blue check means to the public so that prolly helps
dense girder
yes
radiant meadow
well, it wasn't in the pins but with context clues, it can be figured out or you could ask
I pretty much figured it out when I saw like 5 rotjd suggestions
jovial spire
I thought it would be cool if there was a calamity exlusive event thats not just a buffed old one, so i though of a good post ML one, kinda like the goblin army:
Yharim's Army
Whenever it turns day, there is something like a 1/10 chnace of Yharim's Army Aproaching. To know, you will get the status message of something like, Yharim's forces are apraching from the east/west! It will take about an hour for them to arrive.
There would be 5 types of enemeis, 1 for each class: Warrier, Ranger, Mage, Summoner, and Thrower. The warriers would have sword or axe of some type, Rangers would have either a bow or gun, Mages would have mnay types of magic, summoners would get some sort of summoning weapon that summons a mystical orb or something of that sort, and Thowers could throw kives and lay traps. Every troop could drop the item they use for their class with like a 1/250 chance or something. After Yharon dies, to show Yharim getting more deprate, the event could be buffed and enemeis could drop better items and more money. I honestly think it's weired how Yharim never tried to attack you with his forces, since you are swrewing up what he's doing, realisticly he's not gonan just wait for you to just kill however you want whenever you want.
shadow prism
there was a really similar suggestion called yharims armada recently
still, its a good idea
jovial spire
Huh, must have not seen it
dense girder
literally suggested like 8 times
jovial spire
I didnt know sry lol
ancient widget
not on my list of things to do
hollow shell
Yeah it's a pretty common suggestion
jovial spire
kk
ancient widget
np
radiant meadow
ngl, but aquatic scourge doesn't seem like a lurker in the night
radiant meadow
as - sight
brimmy - fright
cryo - might
shadow prism
make cryo drop sight and scourge drop might, scourge is more similar to destroyer and i guess cryo is kinda similar to one twin
ashen warren
should I change it to
Soul of Sight: Essence of all lurkers since AS kinda appears and moves around you before you attack it?
radiant meadow
I mean, as isn't really lurking
It's just curious about the Terrarian
ashen warren
true
I guess I wanted a way to connect the twins and AS
do you think Essence of all observers work better?
radiant meadow
I never realized the souls were color-coded until now 0.o
but yeah, essense of observers sounds good
tight chasm
manic current
Is there a specified reason that Death and DR aren’t availed on character gen?
hollow shell
You can still suggest it even if it's been sent in before
radiant meadow
I think a suggestion was sent suggesting death, dr, and armageddon to be in starter bag
lunar berry
^
shadow prism
I posted this a while back and it got sent, but should I repost "move the non consumable profaned core to pre provi" for visibility
sleek wigeon
@tired haven maybe have it after martian saucer has been defeated once
The non consumable profaned core was moved post prov for a reason, i'd assume, electro
radiant meadow
does martian saucer have a downed thingy (whatever it's called)?
hollow shell
?
sleek wigeon
I think its in boss checklist so i'd assume it has a flag
radiant meadow
something that tells the game it's been defeated
hollow shell
Probably
radiant meadow
I know saucer does technically count as a boss
sleek wigeon
Clown has a flag
hollow shell
If not (or if so) just use the same flag that causes the new hair styles and paintings to come in
sleek wigeon
So i'd hope saucer has one
manic current
Is there a reason that Iron Heart has to be used within a minute of spawn? I was wondering why it isn’t just permanent like Rev
radiant meadow
It is permanent
I think it's so you don't have any time to prepare for your iron heart adventure.
I don't really know
manic current
Well, instead of being “you have to use it within a minute” to just having it be permanent
cyan lagoon
now i got reminded of some suggestion i did five months back
"Give martian saucer, pumpking, mothron, and ice queen rev/death changes and make the latter 3 considered bosses when they get buffed by killing DoG/Yharon (as in have adrenaline go in effect, since martian saucer does it too regardless)"
way before the star system
ancient widget
It's so that people don't take it to the end and use it and then the game thinks they beat iron heart.
That's why it must be used right away.
I am going to have some reward for it in the future, that's why it has this requirement.
radiant meadow
but how would you take it to the end without beating a boss?
hollow shell
I'd personally prefer if it was only before a boss is defeated
less annoying, and would have the same effect
hollow shell
Heh
ancient widget
I always have a reason for everything in this mod
Even mistakes
Either I was rushing through it and didn't notice or something else was on my mind
It's probably because I wanted people to activate it immediately, either way guess it doesn't matter
hollow shell
Ayy
fervent zealot
@cyan lagoon no don't i need my golem cheese to live
unique vector
Unholy Retribution
Basically an Undine Retribution upgrade, for Post ML. Why? Because I love the weapon to bits, ad it kind of gives divine geodes/unholy essence more of a purpose.
Stats should generally make this useful until at or past DoG.
Should Inflict Crush Depths as well as Holy Flames since its made with Provi material.
Crafting:
8 divine geodes
Undine Retribution
6 Uelibloom bars
10 unholy essence
crafted pre-draedon's forge.
yay or nay
also termi no need to reinstate ur opinion
radiant meadow
I'm fine with it because I already did my golem no hits on the surface
unique vector
i saw what u said in #calamity-mod-talk
and ig that make sense but i still need to try
radiant meadow
nay not a bad idea though but stats shouldn't be listed
unique vector
hm okay
~~what if it can be upgraded further into "univeral retribution" and then exo magic spear ~~
cyan lagoon
tbh moving the altar should be considered cheese
radiant meadow
well, I heard Pinkie saying it was okay
and tbh, people are just gonna hunt for big temples
bitter topaz
the reason moving the altar isn't cheese is because otherwise you'd spend 5 hours looking for a decent altar room iirc
radiant meadow
actually, it doesn't really matter since the suggestion still lets you actuate lihzahrd blocks not connected to the altar
you could just actuate like 90% of the temple still
hollow shell
@lunar berry Be just a
bit more descriptive, please
radiant meadow
@vital grotto first of all, Ultra Liquidator uses golden shower in its recipe, not everglades spray
second of all, it's best not to include stats in suggestion; that's what the devs do
still, nice suggestion about some cool support weapons
vital grotto
about the stats, it's why i put the "preliminary" tag but thanks for the feedback
cyan lagoon
Always kind of bugged me why the Healer Guardian doesn't heal in the Guardians fight at all
radiant meadow
well, the wiki calls it defensive guardian
and the main guardian requires the others dead to be hurt anyways
the healer can't heal what's invincible
heady comet
Tbh i hope cobalion never gets any stars
Not fair he gets to make stars for his own suggestions
radiant meadow
He can but he didn't
ashen warren
It should get maximum quantity of stars
fervent zealot
unfair advantage
fervent zealot
ban all people who can star suggestions from making suggestions
cyan lagoon
i wait like everyone else
radiant meadow
What constitutes an Eidolon item?
radiant meadow
I mean, eidolic wail and soul edge both drop from eidolon wyrms but are quite different
In fact, soul edge is more polterghast themed
ashen warren
Soul edge yes, Eidolic wail no
radiant meadow
so you're saying soul edge is an eidolon item and eidolic wail isn't?
ashen warren
No
Soul edge its polterghast theme weapon, eidolic wail its not polterghast theme weapon
@ashen warren already in change logs
radiant meadow
just remember that
https://gyazo.com/274b27fd9b1a3223e4f125bc1a6e37bf
radiant meadow
this isn't the place to ask
ashen warren
Oh, but which place will be good?
radiant meadow
#general-talk ? idk
ashen warren
Oh ok
ashen warren
Please no chicken nugget buffs
radiant meadow
what? why not? 1 1/2 minute death yharon kill is good
ashen warren
Wrong chicken nuggets
cyan lagoon
But muh confectionary fire buff
Seriously though, it should get some more difficulty buffs
ashen warren
Maybe if they only did it during the profaned guardians fight
They do not need more buffs in Providence fight
cyan lagoon
i already mentioned that but ok
unique vector
@slow storm if u trap the slime gods on a platform above u and dont run too far u’ll be fine
nocturne sand
someone posted the worls earlier
slow storm
nocturne sand
it needs to throw knives tbh
shadow prism
Change cosmic rainbow to a regular magic gun that fires a wide spread of 3-5 rainbow beams that deal more damage the further they travel. It would allow cosmic rainbow to remain somewhat unique but would make it both more consistent with other weapons’ aesthetics and make it a bit more viable for combat.
ashen warren
Sounds like a good idea to me
hollow shell
Jesus, lotta suggestions in the last half hour
heady comet
Why does the slime god nerf deserve a star
ashen warren
Woah okay mine got stars fast there didn’t think that many people would agree
ashen warren
Wait why didn’t Fab’s suggestion get a star
hollow shell
There :P
jovial spire
Possibly a new better post Yharon healing potion potion:
Giga Healing Potion: Restores 350 HP on left click, and 550 HP on right click but with a longer potion sickness debuff.
Power of gods surge through this liquid
Crafting: 2 Ethrodermic Energy, 2 Nightmare Fuel, 1 Yharon Soul Fragment, and 3 Ichor.
quiet abyss
Fuck almost star that on instinct
Also, not wrong channel
jovial spire
yeah
quiet abyss
You can post suggestion in here to receive some feedback first
jovial spire
i want critism
quiet abyss
Also, that's a nice idea
The right click healing more but having a longer cooldown is rather interesting
jovial spire
Yeah i wnated to make it not so generic
thats something I've always wanted on a potion
radiant meadow
the question is which would be overall more effective should you stay on top of your cooldown
jovial spire
i added ichor cuz you know blood of gods
tight gorge
but how long is the cooldown on right click?
radiant meadow
you might want to do ichor/cursed flames for corruption worlds that don't want to bother with evil islands and perfs
tight gorge
2 minutes?
jovial spire
Well 2 minuets i would put it to double
more like 1m 45 s
so 20 seconds off with charm?
that would be 1m 25s
still not Op really
quiet abyss
The right click most likely wouldn't work with the healing pot hotkey
But that's what you intended, right?
To force the players to switch to this healing pot briefly if they want a better heal
Also...it might
The left click could be used for like, you're around 400 hp away from full hp and you go "Eh, to be safe I'll heal for 350"
While the right click could be used for when the potion sickness runs out while you're at low hp so you're like "Oh shit gotta heal quickly!"
neon panther
or just don’t take damage and don’t use pots
jovial spire
lul
radiant meadow
so, the right click would have an overall more effective heal
quiet abyss
But would be longer cooldown, and would be like...
A heal you'll used when you're low
A last ditch effort to save yourself from death
Smth like that
quiet abyss
It's a nice idea. Not as generic as just a normal potions, while still not being too completely ridiculous 👍
Go ahead and post it
radiant meadow
going back to healing pots in hotbar like when I didn't know hotkeys exist
jovial spire
ty
radiant meadow
or as though it's thorium food
jovial spire
lol i spent 4 hours thinking about balanceing a fictinal potion
tight gorge
I use middle click for healing hotkey
so a right click healing potion wouldn't be bad
I like it
jovial spire
Also i knda flet like later there's nop use for ickor/flame
late game
so might might think of mroe stuff iwht it
quiet abyss
Well, to prevent people from going "Why is there ichor in the recipe?" You can write down the reason why they're there in your suggestion as well
radiant meadow
either lower the cooldown of rightclick or increase healing because right now, left click has slightly more effective heal
jovial spire
kk
radiant meadow
350/60 > 550/105
jovial spire
400 good?
hollow shell
I think he meant the other way
jovial spire
oh
radiant meadow
yeah, buff the stronger one
neon panther
can you go into more detail
where is the broken staff from
what does the summon do
@tropic shadow
quiet abyss
@tropic shadow Elaborate more on your suggestion, a lot more.
First of all, what does the weapon itself even summon, and what does the summon even do?
You also mean "Yharon" soul fragments, not Yharim. He's not even in the game yet
Also...broken staff. How do you obtain that?
Do you craft it, or is it a drop?
neon panther
pinkie just taking what I said and re-formatting smh
quiet abyss
And "more stuff"? No, that's not how suggestions work
If you're going to make a suggestion, please discuss your suggestion in this channel to receive feedback before you suggest it
sleek wigeon
@slow storm slime god is fine rn as long as you stay below them imo
also @tropic shadow "material i made up"
ha
ha
hollow shell
Yeah you're gonna wanna redo that, bl1zzard
lost agate
Also, cosmic inmaterializer smh
digital sparrow
How long do I have to wait to repost suggestions again?
quiet abyss
Atleast until the suggestion is more than a week old
digital sparrow
That’s what I thought, thanks
arctic wren
yharim soul fragment 
digital sparrow
YHARIM soul fragment
arctic wren
no as in
yharim and not yharon
jovial spire
oh yot meant his
i thought you meant my potion
lol
eh you know what scrap that idea i had
@eager shuttle there are liek no details on that
Damage?
Range?
Crafting? Drop chance?
digital sparrow
Crafting?
arctic wren
"If you're going to make a suggestion, please discuss your suggestion in this channel to receive feedback before you suggest it"
Pinkie literally just said that
digital sparrow
Where does it come from?
jovial spire
Any unique abilities to make it stand out?
ashen warren
Suggestion: Rename #suggestions-voting to #suggestions-voting_read_pins
calm temple
supreme sasscade
eager shuttle
I'll think of something
jovial spire
there needs to be details
Also, somthing nice to also Add is a decription, liek with my healining potion
jovial spire
@eager shuttle Well you should have disscused that here first lol
We would have given you ideas
calm temple
What if it created a small box around it filled with Scal bullethell
arctic wren
that'd make more sense as a yoyo you get when you beat scal tbh
jovial spire
not rwally an arena
arctic wren
but it's an interesting idea ngl
jovial spire
yeah good point
ashen warren
Tbh i want all post ml yoyos to be like the flying knife or that cryogen staff
vague laurel
we need more flying knife weapons
ashen warren
Along with the projectiles
digital sparrow
I have an idea for a way to upgrade Undyne’s Retribution, really cool and fun weapon and it needs a chance later in the game
Undyne’s Vengeance
It’s the Retribution but with more spear thingies, they are yellow, and a LOT faster. Craftable from divine geodes and the Retribution. Ofc more damage too. It would be interesting against DoG 🤔
calm temple
Combine dog yoyo with ashes of calamity and auric ore
digital sparrow
The things look like Providences rapidfire attack
jovial spire
Even that exact name has been suggested lol
digital sparrow
I’m meh at names lol
jovial spire
wiht like nearly the same desc
ashen warren
Any undine upgrade needs to be crafted with reaper teeth tbh
ashen warren
If I get untouchable I might make an undines upgrade my weapon
digital sparrow
But imagine the providences thingies against DoG
Wait if you get untouchable you can add something to the mod?
ashen warren
You get 1 item iirc
not really it's happened like twice
Subject to balancing
Also dratornelius just got in
digital sparrow
Oh boy time to waste months of my life
ashen warren
So who knows
ruby cobalt
If you get untouchable you get nothing, because items don't get put in unless someone else coded them
ashen warren
Well maybe I'll learn to code
ashen warren
Bumblefucks throw
jovial spire
best name
ashen warren
I can code extremely basic stuff
jovial spire
I know a bit og python
ashen warren
Hopefully after ap computer science I'll be better
jovial spire
I'm pretty sure i could make a weapon
digital sparrow
I made a sword that’s alright against DoG called the Chicken Blade
A bit of a meme
ashen warren
Suggestion: rename bumblebirb to bumblefuck because that name was way better
ashen warren
If a person doesn't pick bumblefucks throw as the name I'll be sad
arctic wren
digital sparrow
I might just make it myself and pretend that’s it’s part of the mod because I suck too much for untouchable
jovial spire
i would do a summoning weapon that summons a bumblebirb that multiples called Bumblefuck's Call
Nayways i re ramped my suggestion from ealier, just a moment
jovial spire
Eh still nto a good idea
spark ember
I have an idea for a summoning weapon though could use some help in refining the kinks
you'd either get it as a drop from astrum deus or be craftable with astral bars, and the main idea is something that is like other "worm" summons (Stardust Dragon, Mecha Worm) except summons multiple smaller ones, I'm thinking something that summons a worm that can only go to three sounds stupid, and the fact that the dps scales in such a way with worms that more segments helps ALOT more than more worms, so instead of that I was thinking maybe a summon that used up, say, 3 minion slots and summoned a worm that was about 3 segments long.
I'm thinking it might have to have something to do with the probes that astrum deus summons or something seeing as the worm contacty damage would trigger iframes so they wouldn't do too much more dps per added worm
any ideas on what they could do with said probes?
I was thinking maybe it could just spew them out as an attack, but that kinda defeats the whole worm thing
so maybe it's like the boss fight where one of them has a bunch around it's head and the others are just normal
ashen warren
what about they're like destroyer probes except they fire rapidly and do summon damage and explode after a short time, inflicting On Fire! and doing a small amount of damage in a 6x6 radius
6x6 is actually pretty big nvm
maybe like 3x3 or 4x4
spark ember
what I'm thinking might actually be cool is the first one has the probes, and others are normal, but the probes that the first one spews out instead of being mines, are like stationary destroyer probes/stationary astral probe
that lasted a few seconds
and it spewed one out every so often
and the lasers from these "sentry" probes wouldn't be piercing so they could still deal damage while the worm ones are attacking
so to put is nicely
Astral Worm Staff (placeholder)
Uses 3 minion slots
Summons an Astral Worm that creates stationary probes which fire non-piercing lasers at enemies. These probes last x seconds and are created every y seconds. No contact damage(?). All Astral Worms created after the first deal z contact damage and have the ai of other worm summons instead.
thoughts?
there are no summons granted from killing astrum deus or from astral bars and I think it would be cool to have mini worm summons like tho mini worm boss