The minion nerf is for balancing reasons
#suggestions-discussion
worthy fiber
It varies based on progression too
So while in the beginning it's at 0% due to weak weapons, it gains acceleration in HM hence the raised percentage and by Post-ML summoner is buff and tough
orchid hatch
@night cradle so
night cradle
I guess he wont put it in Mod Browser for now.
orchid hatch
Yeah but he should
orchid hatch
@wanton sun you are wrong.
wanton sun
are you sure
orchid hatch
yes
wanton sun
do reasearch
orchid hatch
@wanton sun either your a troll, and should leave, or your an idiot, and should leave.
wanton sun
hehe
wanton sun
do you really think im trolling?
if he wanted to put it on mod browser dont you think he would have done it by now?
orchid hatch
ok ill bite
you said
"do research"
like how i asked jopo if he was ever contacted about it
he wasn't
or how i asked danny and sarg about it
which they said was related to the build being unstable
and absol didnt make the reasoning clear
tepid wadi
Why is this still a topic?
orchid hatch
so maybe you should do some research
wanton sun
you literally gave me the reason why it wasnt on modbrowser
orchid hatch
which i found out after i suggested it
orchid hatch
what
@wanton sun what are you on about
if he wanted the new build on the browser he could
wanton sun
how am i a troll explain
orchid hatch
wanton sun
how exactly is that trolling?
im trying to explain to you the reason why he cant upload it to tmod loader at the moment
orchid hatch
but he can
orchid hatch
he goes into the game
wanton sun
what is the magical method that he hasnt found out yet
orchid hatch
goes into his mod sources
clicks the magical publish button
and if theres an issue
he talks to jopo
he doesnt want to.
wanton sun
you dont think he's tried that?
orchid hatch
thats the answer i found
wanton sun
NUMEROUS TIMES?
wanton sun
its not urgent
orchid hatch
your not very smart.
wanton sun
im baffled at your ignorance, and your lack of being able to use the right word
buoyant robin
@hasty wolf there's a reason for the minion damage reduction
it's to prevent players from abusing extra summons while using a different class.
if you don't like it, play on expert or something. it's a revengeance exclusive feature.
placid moth
and minions do about twice as much damage if you are not holding a wep as compared to holding a wep
so if your held wep does more than that, use it
^halibut cannon
buoyant robin
the minion damage reduction is encouragement to not use summons or go full summoner. that's the intended purpose and it's likely not to be changed anytime soon.
placid moth
to not go full summoner ?????
buoyant robin
regardless of reason, it's probably not going to be changed.
molten willow
t o w n n p c s
ruby cobalt
Eventually.
molten willow
t o w n n p c s
ruby cobalt
Soon™
worthy fiber
amidias, permafrost, yharim, etc etc
ruby cobalt
I thought we already estabilished that Amidias was Cultist 
buoyant robin
nah he has steroids too 
worthy fiber
dino on steroids
cyan lagoon
imo the rev nerfs should return again
worthy fiber
Which'uns
cyan lagoon
but instead of making it near useless/locked just have its damage be on par with other similar weapons
space gun, daedalus stormbow
holy arrows
star cannon?
and while we're at it, nerf titanium because it's blatantly overpowered and can carry you up to ml
manic current
i like willowmaine's suggestion of putting a "how-to" in #mod-downloads because i some people dont know how to mod without modloader
worthy fiber
radiant meadow
I was one of those people who didn't know until I had to force myself to update Antiaris from forum page since mod browser "updated" but didn't actually give me new content.
gritty crow
What’s the name of the current lower abyss music?
bitter topaz
should be haedopalegic pressure iirc
relyh or whatever it's called was replaced by it sometime between 1.3.4.101 and 1.3.4.103 afaik
gritty crow
R’lyeh is the one I was thinking thanks guys
cyan lagoon
Hadopelagic Pressure is higher abyss
R'lyeh is current abyss theme
and Void is currently unimplemented
tired haven
gritty crow
You clearly took that before I reacted 
tired haven
Definitely
round falcon
i want some feedback before i post this
Agitated
Buff
When you lose your Rage to taking damage, you gain an extra %(higher % in deathmode) amount of rage from all sources for a few seconds.
any thoughts?
wind flicker
pretty epic
onyx wigeon
thats a nice idea but at the start of the game you dont really have anything to build up your rage except jumping off cliffs
and in my base there arent really any cliffs to jump off from
ruby cobalt
Build one.
gritty crow
Find a dart trap and a slime statue. Swap the dart trap for slime statue. Boom.
dull kite
@smoky raptor warned for a meme suggestion
gritty crow
You’ll have to go underground pre skeletron, but it’s better than nothing
dense girder
i'm thinking of some upgrades to the crimson crusher blade/corrupted crusher blade
any of y'all got any ideas for names? i'm shit at this
dull kite
true crimson crusher blade 
dense girder
dense girder
@round falcon That was an amazing suggestion ily
real parrot
agreed
round falcon
sleek yew
change buff name to "angery"
wise pollen
This is what happens when you deprive yourself of sleep
You break all of the rules completely unintentionally
tired haven
How about "Outrageous"
frail mantle
It’s unfair
radiant meadow
how do you make it so you can't stop moving?
do you mean give super speed like burden breaker?
or are you constantly distorted?
sleek yew
6 stars already holy shit
radiant meadow
I only count 5, nvm
sleek yew
ha now 7
ashen warren
accidently placed voidstone in my base to see how the blocks looked. to find out it places water and i need a pickaxe axe
radiant meadow
rip
sleek yew
also pancakes another thing that could be added to your suggestion is that when a boss is summoned you get 100% rage and when you get to 0 hp you won't die, but the boss will despawn and you will get fully healed.
tired haven
Sounds amazing
but how did you get voidstone then
ashen warren
voidstone can drop from enemies in the abyss
fervent zealot
it can?
tired haven
Mhm, reasonable
fervent zealot
i really aughta get back to playing now tbh
hollow shell
Those Voidstone drops really should be locked to post-Mechs...
ashen warren
yea
hollow shell
or post-Plantera for convenience sake
toxic basalt
Does anyone agree that the Dungeon Guardian deserves a drop?
toxic basalt
The Bone Key is just a pet. What I mean is something we can use or equip as an accessory
Like the Halo of Horrors
Like I also put in #suggestions-voting
dry river
is the polterghast gonna be resprited btw?
radiant meadow
I think a resprite is in the works. Why you asking here?
dry river
i just wanted to check before throwing in a suggestion, as atm it's just a plantera color swap.
heady comet
But it isnt
radiant meadow
phase 1 ai is pretty much the same ai, but the sprite and later ai's are pretty unique
dry river
oof
I just took another look, and @heady comet is right, but in my opinion, they still look too similar.
split hatch
From the Dungeon Guardian item, that would be annoying to get. If you already defeated Skeletron, it would not spawn. And can't the dungeon guardian be killed instantly using the elemental gauntlet/ethereal talisman/elemental quiver/etc.?
ancient dragon
There're already several resprites being made and ones that have already been made.
There's a compilation of them somewhere on the art server too, p sure.
ashen warren
I think it's just polterghast and yharon now
dry river
@ancient dragon where on the art server? Really excited to see them, but I can't find it.
ancient dragon
ashen warren
Are they pinned?
devout seal
@dry river A Polterghast resprite is in the works, it will be by Inanis.
Thank you for your time.
lunar berry
1the dungeon guardian item is way too op and is too easy to get
20x increased damage is just
radiant meadow
That's like twice as much as unnerfed death adrenaline and it is available in all modes.
Not to mention a hook can prevent the "not stop moving" along with you still getting +100 def.
It might be as rare as the halibut, but in rev+, defiled rune can boost those chances.
lunar berry
just make a new world, defiled, go to pre skeleton dungeon, boom ez
sleek wadi
Dungeon Guardian having an actual drop is also kinda missing the point of Dungeon Guardian. It only exists to prevent you from getting dungeon loot pre-skele and is not meant to be fought seriously. It only drops the Bone Key as a trophy item for finding a way to kill it.
It'd be like giving adult Eidolon Wyrm an exclusive non-vanity drop.
radiant meadow
Except you can now get dungeon loot pre skele since planetoid update
devout seal
What
ruby cobalt
Alch Table -> Zen Potion -> Fuck your rules
heady comet
Inb4 mod size doubles
stoic narwhal
lol same
low hedge
people dont read rules which is why people dont see the invite
hollow shell
@orchid patio He is
orchid patio
Would he be fought after Supreme Calamitis or after Yharon?
hollow shell
Both
marsh gust
"even i couldnt defeat him" - SC
orchid patio
^^^ reasons I was asking if before or after,
Do you know whether he would be summoned only in the jungle or would he be able to be fought anywhere?
hollow shell
Thanks
toxic basalt
@ashen warren I changed the healing potions giving half the health and taking twice the amount of time to cooldown to: you cannot heal, and this also affects healing over time
Also when I put "You cannot stop moving", this would make SCal's fight harder. Mounts would also be affected so don't get your hopes up on them
ruby cobalt
Oh hell yea, let's switch the current music/other content ratio up from 90%/10% to 99%/1%.
hasty flicker
As for swarm prepotency. Why would it be needed? You could use the marked gun at this point and it would have the same effect. If I'm not wrong with my understanding.
tired haven
Because you can't use mark weapons to get rid of annoying shit 95% of time and that's what normal weapons could've done but then they cut summoner so you basically play class this weapon is related to
It's not lethal but it's really inconvenient
signal ibex
Ive been thinking of a sulphuric planetoid.
ruby cobalt
Which would leak water constantly.
ruby cobalt
Give it a big thonk and compile all planetoids into a doc already smh
signal ibex
Id rather prefer posting them 1 by 1
ruby cobalt
MOOODS 
low hedge
lol
radiant meadow
Why not craft the blades at a mythril anvil?
dense girder
because they're meant to be obtained pretty early in HM, i think a mythril anvil would be a bit of a burden
that's just my stance
feel free to counter it if you want, i'm not the best at choosing c.stations
dense girder
@signal ibex that's the same as Brimstone Flames but with the 15% defense thing
maybe 50 damage
signal ibex
Aight
radiant meadow
Wouldn't it make more sense to nerf it because of the defense thing?
dense girder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Suggestions: now with shitty MS Paint demonstrating how the item works
actually i'm gonna get rid of it
it's pointless and buries some shit
hollow shell
Aw, how thoughtful
dense girder
i'm only doing it to save myself from the horrors of mockery through my ms paint artwork jk
jolly mirage
I feel like giving Ranged Bloodflare a "cooldown" debuff of it's own would be a nice QoL change, cause to be honest I completely forgot that it even had an active component. It should be really simple to add, but I'm not one of the devs, so I don't really know for certain
dense girder
aerosmith
dense girder
my favorite guitar hero game
thin nymph
mhm
shadow prism
Shadow Scarf
Grants a shadow dash
Void given form
Made from 1 counter scarf + 10 darksun fragments + [1 dark plasma or 1 twisting nether, this can be changed if it doesn’t fit] at a Draedon’s forge
Cooldown-free counter scarf with a catch: it a. makes the player take 50% more damage from all sources and b. inflicts unblockable confused on the player for 1 second each time you dash through an attack (would probably use shadow dodge buff just for the name)
little raptor
special chest from The Abyss bottom
dense girder
The no-cooldown is not worth the 50% more damage at all
That's a horrible trade-off
Not to mention the confused would just make you go back into the enemy rendering the scarf worthless
shadow prism
it’s worth it if you can control movement
also confused only triggers on input, not passively
dense girder
even so the 50% more damage is never going to be worth it
shadow prism
it makes scal easier with a bit of practic
dense girder
That's like getting 1 million dollars and the only price is that you need to play russian roulette with 5/6 bullets loaded
shadow prism
mindlessly spamming it lets you dodge most stuff anyways
the 50% damage is so if you dont dodge you’re hecced
dense girder
I don't think you understand, you're suggesting an item which encourages a playstyle of "keep spamming dodge as much as often" and "learn how to play the game all over again because you keep getting confused"
shadow prism
it’s not supposed to be spammed but it can be
dense girder
Not to mention, your unblockable confused is rendered worthless by the 2nd dodge because then you can keep pressing the same key while confused and go in one direction without having to switch due to confused
shadow prism
it’s meant as a situational item for dashing through infernadoes and such
confused is so you have to adapt during scal bullethells
dense girder
i'm not going to continue this my chili con carne is getting cold
but to fix your item, i'd make it 15% more damage instead of 50%
Stasis' Scarf
Functions the same as the Counter Scarf and Worm Scarf, but with the following changes:
• Scarf Cooldown debuff lasts for 6 seconds instead of 15, however, on a successful dodge you are inflicted with Marked for Death for 4 seconds.
• Scarf Boost now increases all damage dealt, critical strike chance and speed by 15%. You take 20% less damage instead of 17%.
• When you are hit for more than 200 damage in a single blow, the enemy that hit you will be inflicted with Marked for Death for 8 seconds.
Crafting: Counter Scarf + Worm Scarf + 1 Twisting Nether + 3 Cores of Calamity @ a Mythril Anvil
here's my own idea for a counter scarf upgrade
toxic basalt
That sounds quite useless, especially at that time of game since you have Asgards Valor that can do that
That can dash
dense girder
@shadow prism Your item isn't really "high risk high reward". It's high risk, medium kind-of reward; being able to constantly dodge is again not worth the 33% damage
toxic basalt
And the Worm Scarf has a much better upgrade
shadow prism
it’s absolutely worth it
literally makes every boss a joke if you use it right, but messing up screws you over
tired haven
Idk guys, Titanium set bonus is considered op (and this is 3 of your slots, not one), and then you get 10 times less cooldown for mere "spam dash pls"
dense girder
Our scarves are both only craftable at a point in the game where Titanium is completely redundant
orchid patio
What about the bloody worm scarf?
delicate raft
You can always get another worm scarf.
austere orchid
Hold on a second.
unique vector
not 3
austere orchid
I recall someone doing an upgrade for Counter Scarf anyway.
Except it was Signus or something.
I might be mistaken, take that into account.
dense girder
A config file, because casual players of a game love having to code just to make the game easier
radiant meadow
well, it also doesn't make much sense for coin gun to be more common than a cutlass with the rune activated
also, if someone wants an easier game, that's their choice
and casual players can just leave the config file at default if they want
sleek wigeon
coin gun isnt more common than a cutlass though. Cutlass can be dropped by any pirate while coin gun only increases chances to 5% for pirate captain
radiant meadow
oh, I thought it was all pirates
still, a config file would be nice
tally counter still isn't boosted
sleek wigeon
Theres a list of what defiled affects on the wiki
Tally counter is super common, though.
radiant meadow
I saw coin gun and I must've missed that it was only pirate captain
ashen warren
I can imagine people setting halibut cannon to 100% lol
radiant meadow
super common or not, some people might want more customization
and halibut would probably stay off the config
ashen warren
good lol
radiant meadow
The config file would just be a true/false thing about setting stuff to 5%
sleek wigeon
Eh, it wouldnt be a big deal if halibutt was on the config. After all, cheat sheet exists
radiant meadow
If people could also set the percentages, that would be interesting. 0.o
but true/false seems much easier
odd apex
I suggest you a new boss armor called god of ligth armor loock samthing like this http://prntscr.com/l6guln
frosty kindle
boss suggestions aren't gonna be put in the mod, unfortunately.
frosty kindle
read the pins in #suggestions-voting , JrTighe has this rule implemented.
odd apex
i waunt a suit loock like this i can do this ?
ashen warren
@odd apex no boss suggestions
odd apex
vanilla optoins ?
ashen warren
what
round falcon
ill dm you what i think that could be
odd apex
ok i change my mind i waunt a armor
ashen warren
what
dense girder
suddenly, adir's english doesn't seem so bad
odd apex
sry my poor eng
dense girder
He has to specify more
sleek wigeon
Not really. Vanity armor suggestions are technically allowed, even if they are never getting in iirc
frosty kindle
a good description of why you would want an armor similar to your suggestion will be great, then people might like it as well
frosty kindle
^
odd apex
i waunt to be like a god of ligth this all
dense girder
sure
round falcon
just remember to follow the suggestion rules
radiant meadow
You can wear a providence mask and you'll be a third of the way to being a god of light and dark
round falcon
which are either pinned or part of the channel topic
odd apex
in the lore we are as the player what exactly ?
hybrid cipher
the player
you're just a being that materialised and is now going on a murder spree to make yourself cooler i think
odd apex
xD you mean the player waunt to be a god lol
toxic basalt
You know what this mod needs? It's own invasion event!
waxen plover
why though?
odd apex
yup
toxic basalt
Idk. Every mod seems to have one but this one and also it's "Calamity" so an invasion would fit perfectly with the mod
still falcon
no
terraria doesn't have an actual lore
calamity has some lore but it doesn't have an actual story behind the player
because terraria is a game where you do anything you want
it's not a RPG
toxic basalt
Maybe it could be called Yharim's Armada and when the event ends... Yharim spawns
still falcon
THE LORDE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yharim
change my mind
frosty kindle
old meme
still falcon
i know
alpine garnet
idk about invasion, but yharim spawning at the end would prob not be good
since he'd probably take a large amt of attempts to beat
radiant meadow
and I think yharim also ohkos on direct contact
that would be annoying if he charged like his dragon
alpine garnet
haven't heard of that yet
wouldn't be too surprised if so
might just be rev/death thing
bitter topaz
i quite like this one tbh
only gripe is that it shouldn't be consumable if the fight started with rage already built up/active
sleek wigeon
@radiant meadow tbf, thorium modifies prehm goblin army so much its practically its own thing
tardy blaze
there have been sooooo many yharim's army suggestions
dense girder
@royal spear hi dev what does a blue tick box mean
dense girder
no there's also blue
royal spear
This means it's been sent to the dev server
dense girder
ik but is blue different
sinful violet
there's both
dense girder
or just the same but blue
sinful violet
and it doesn't matter
dense girder
alright
radiant meadow
blue means it's grouped with another suggestion that got forwarded pretty sure
dense girder
i thought blue meant "already in the works" so
sinful violet
means we took it to be considered
cyan lagoon
blue for me is "already sent to dev server"
so any dupe suggestions of one we get are marked with that
its not official though
ashen warren
wholesome
ashen warren
Thanks, you too :)
neon panther
nb4 meme suggestion reee
hearty yew
That's not a suggestion.
buoyant robin
oh look another yharim’s army suggestion 
stoic narwhal
sinful violet
@karmic sparrow It'll happen eventually
karmic sparrow
ok
novel oasis
I’m pretty sure that aesthetics for those items don’t matter much
it may be annoying but it’s not game changing
hollow shell
@rough basin Put your suggestion all in one message so it's easier to star
(I feel like this should be one of the rules at this point)
sleek yew
same
rough basin
sorry mate
hollow shell
It's alright. It's not written down anywhere :P
rough basin
fixed
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren elaborate
we cannot go off of "add this"
similar to how we can't go off of "buff this" and "nerf that"
also put it in a singular message
hollow shell
^
ashen warren
Im uncreative
hollow shell
git creative
lost agate
I will reznika 
Heart of the elements needs some tweaks, yeh
But at least it can do some afk farming atm
jovial spire
ddint mean to post that yet lol
So ive got a weapon idea, tell me if there's something wrong with it.
Tome of Sorrow (Magic Damage)
This book is probally crying because of something you did.
Crafting: 1 Teardrop Cleaver, 9 Cores of cinder, 1 spell tome, 20 souls of fright, and 10 buckets of water.
Attacks through walls. Creates 4 lines of fast tears from offscreen that are from up, down, left, and right of where your cursor is. When they hit an enemy, they bounce off them and onto a tile or another enemy before dissapiering.
quiet abyss
Sounds like a neat idea
Though 15 cores of cinder and 20 buckets of water seem a bit excessive 🤔
jovial spire
Ok, I'll change that
marsh gust
plus it gives the teardrop cleaver a reason to be kept
quiet abyss
Also personally I'd use a spell tome bought from wizard in place of a book, but it's ya choice
jovial spire
That better?
quiet abyss
Ye better
marsh gust
also i feel like theres smthng off if the tears spawns at the cursor
idk
like youd be able to attack through walls if its so
quiet abyss
Just one question
Do they spawn from the cursor, or do they spawn from offscreen to the cursor? I'd assume the former but just wanna make sure
jovial spire
offscreen to the curosr
quiet abyss
Ah alright
Well, I see nothing else, so go ahead and post it 👍
jovial spire
Ok, changed that
quiet abyss
Ye that sounds a bit more clear, nice
ashen warren
I liked the "crippling depression" teardrop cleaver upgrade someone suggested
ooo perhaps a "sadness sword" line that ends up combining with neptune's bounty for a "neptune's tears" or something for yharon
heady comet
Epic suggestion
ashen warren
@frail bone You gotta be more specific
frail bone
Oh, sorry! Uh, hm. I see the pins now.
Unfortunately I don't have a more specific idea, but I'll think about it.
shadow prism
I made a post about those earlier shameless advertising tbh
ashen warren
@frail bone you gon get someone to kill scal with a claws weapon hm
frail bone
@ashen warren ill do it m8
ashen warren
its literally impossible without timing and precision that would be near impossible
if they dont fire projectiles , which i assume they wouldn't, hitcap (even tho thats getting removed) would kill you
frail bone
The mantis claws technically fire projectiles but yeah
wicked swift
@dapper scaffold good suggestion imo
dapper scaffold
quiet abyss
Uh, might wanna make the second post in the first post as well
For context
Otherwise that second post won't get sent
👍
spark flax
awful suggestion idea: like a waifu accessory, but it summons a human Calamitas, because let's be real she deserves it
also because one of my friends said that they wish that they could free her from yharim's curse and that's the only gameplay way i can think of integrating such a thing apart from, like, adding her as an NPC villager or some shit
alternatively stick it on a summon instead because summoners get nothing after SCal and every other class does even tho cosmic immaterializer is godly already
cyan lagoon
Waifu suggestions are not allowed anymore @spark flax
spark flax
oh!
cyan lagoon
They've been memed to hell and back and are basically dead memes
ashen warren
Lorde waifu when 
outer reef
signal ibex
ashen warren
Ah... uh...
I'm not sure how to get more specific about that sorta suggestion really. I'd imagine summoning monsters that're basically the equivalent of the regular forms...
...and checking pins...
Right, I'll cut that outta there then.
I guess I just think monster people are neat, and it'd be nice to have them around as villagers (even if they are terribly pathetic at surviving), but yeah, imagine being able to summon minion versions of monsters like those.
ashen warren
Er.... no no....
ashen warren
I'm thinking of the lamia and harpy monsters, at the moment.... and anything else of that sort that comes to mind.
I wonder how a clone summon could work
Summoning clones of the player
quiet abyss
Please be specific in your suggestions
When people told you to be "more specific", what they mean is:
Don't just tell the devs "Make this thing" and not give them something to based off of
Like say, tell them to make a gun? Well, what kind of gun?
What is its effects? When and how can it be obtained?
Why should the gun be added into the mod?
If you're going to make a suggestion, it's better to jsut design something yourself.
Like say, if you want a gun weapon, then do something like:
[Insert Gun Name]
[Its effect and properties]
[Its recipe/How can it be obtained]
[Why should it be added into the mod]
Just an example
So if you want more NPC, then do something like:
[Insert NPC name]
[What do they do?]
[On what conditions will they appear?]
[Why should they be added?]
ashen warren
i might copy this and put it in a notepad so i can say it each time
Unless it can be pinned
quiet abyss
Tell a mod to comere and pin this then hahayes
Hey now, I'm not attacking you or discouraging you from making suggestions
I'm just telling you that #suggestions-voting are quite moderated and taken seriously
It's why there's a rule that says "No meme suggestion or it's a warn"
...Whoops, it looks like I may have scared someone off from suggestions again with my overly long rant explaination 
faint rivet
wanton sun
quiet abyss
I can't help it I tend to go on and on when it comes to explaining certain things like this
quiet abyss
wanton sun
still got it
quiet abyss
ACK! (blushes in embarassment)
ashen warren
@oblique plume refer to twilight's previous wall of text 
wanton sun
yeah, and crystalline is easy to get tbh
ashen warren
Planetoids = diamond hook and diamond staff/crystalline really fast
And it's like 3 diamonds iirc
spark flax
honestly once you get past the Scourge
as long as you're playing revengeance
thrown can just use the Scourge of the Desert up to, like, WoF
summon could do with more early game equipment but there's the Sun Spirit Staff as an option and summon stuff is apparently a binch to program in, so
signal ibex
(Wait does the star cannon already have a upgrade in this mod)
signal ibex
OH no!
spark flax
awful suggestion idea #2918:
a rocket launcher made from Ashes of Calamity named the Calamity Cannon, because /insert bad reference pun here
neon panther
heyyy another crystalline upgrade suggestion
tbh i dont care which one gets in i just want an upgraded crystalline
spark flax
We Are All
Appreciate Crystalline
signal ibex
I already made like a dozen crystalline suggestions
ashen warren
Crystalline best pre boss weapon
signal ibex
Yes.
Y know.
Maybe one day.
All crystalline suggestions will be banned
Since its kinda turning into a meme now...
gritty kiln
I'd argue Seashell Boomerang, Halibut Cannon or Magna Cannon for being better pre-boss
ashen warren
"pre boss weapon"
spark flax
Halibut Cannon doesn't count
signal ibex
Halibut is overly OP
gritty kiln
Cnidrion isn't a boss. "Mini-boss" is pretty meaningless progression wise
signal ibex
Mini "Bosses" Still technically a boss..
But nvm.
Aight before you correct me.
It was satire.
gritty kiln
It's just a bullet-sponge enemy, it doesn't even show on the boss checklist if you're including minibosses
ashen warren
It has a boss healthbar and that's all i'll say cause offtopic
spark flax
of course, the most important miniboss is the Cloud Elemental
gritty kiln
I've seen slimes get a boss healthbar before. Cnidrion is easier than King Slime definitely
spark flax
the boss health bar mod gives the names of random regular slimes when slime rain is going on
its kinda funny
signal ibex
?!
spark flax
tfw i still use said boss health bar mod even tho calamity has its own inbuilt health bars now
spark flax
nope not so far
signal ibex
Alright.
spark flax
the two health bars are on completely different parts of the screen, so
shadow prism
Give celestus homing so it has reason to be used over scourge of the cosmos
heady comet
Celestus does fat damage though
opal barn
How about no memes here 🙃
leaden karma
low hedge
ashen warren
bitter topaz
wha-
orchid oxide
that one is scary
bitter topaz
first off, doomslayer was removed
little raptor
nice suggestion
bitter topaz
secondly, doomslayer isn't an attempt at a sexy plague doctor cosplay
orchid oxide
arevalo brings a striking point to the table here
little raptor
doomsayer*
orchid oxide
but epic gamer herobrine swoops in with a hard hook- OHHH AND IT GETS COUNTERED
opal barn
Thank you based Spook
little raptor
hey
alpine garnet
Ty spook
orchid oxide
and he has been quelmed by the panhandle of justice
opal barn
sorry alphi for ping but syg was faster
sinful violet
hwat
bitter topaz
~~but syg's slow and hasn't actually given them warned yet ~~
sinful violet
syg bad
opal barn
lmao
tight chasm
Smh I’m in mobile
opal barn
Free mod points for Mrrp 
sinful violet
Hey guess whos on mobile too
tight chasm
I just did it smh
sinful violet
Lame
tight chasm
sinful violet
I’m deleting that “add more early game summons and throwing weapons” suggestion
Be more specific next time
austere orchid
You could also try and do a Summoner Variant.
For the specific reason that many Mages do use them.
shadow prism
DoG Food
Summons a cosmic tunneling worm mount
Made from 50 cosmilite bars + 20 nightmare fuel + 20 endothermic energy + 30 phantoplasm + [3 armored shells + 3 cores of calamity + 5 reaper teeth (these can be changed if needed)]
(Mount) Summons a 3-segment mini-DoG with the player in a cockpit at the head. Moves fairly quickly and tunnels through all blocks except scal arena ones. Right clicking changes it to “battle mode” where it fires lasers at nearby enemies and makes the jaws deal contact damage, but can’t tunnel through blocks. After taking 2000 damage it explodes, damaging the player, ejecting them and inflicting god slayer inferno onto the player for 5 seconds. After exploding there is a 1 minute cooldown before it can be summoned again.
Mount summoning item looks like a cosmilite-plated can of dog food.
would also be really cool if it played the “block mined” sound to the tune of SotU when tunneling
ashen warren
how about making it deal 2 damage per hit on everything it touches inckuding the player after the first use
shadow prism
no
hybrid cipher
don't meme in here
ashen warren
i did not
shadow prism
that’s not a serious suggestion
hybrid cipher
hybrid cipher
i'll give you one chance to take your memes to general or you're muted
ashen warren
we need practice mode for every boss inculding slime king
lost agate
Theres this thing called dying several times to a boss
little raptor
bitter topaz
you could make cobalt gear, but that's around it
but cobalt gear isn't exactly good
and also "hardmode bar" implies it could give mythril for a mythril anvil, and by extention titanium for titanium gear
sleek wigeon
Hardmode bar implies it gives everything from palladium to chlorophyte
ashen warren
@woeful sinew the halibut cannon isn't going to receive a nerf iirc and please elaborate on your suggestions better
woeful sinew
Its to good
opal barn
Btw, if you're new here, to survive, you read the pins
heady spire
As an avid (and lazy) user of the Mana Flower... am I the only one that feels like we should have an interim upgrade into the Ethereal Talisman? I feel like the jump from Jungle to Polterghast is... far.
woeful sinew
i mean i got it after i beat calamitas abd ive shredded polterghast and the profaned god :/
ruby cobalt
What the fuck is this garbage.
opal barn
It's supposed to do that
tired haven
Dirtling gun tbh
ruby cobalt
Yes, I see that it's a dirt gatling.
little raptor
crap gatling
ruby cobalt
The real question is why he isn't muted yet?
ashen warren
you pinged me right as I checked my phone Tera
opal barn
I know when you check your phone 🙃
ashen warren
hollow shell
Should Dirt Gatling be starred?
opal barn
It's really dumb
hollow shell
Looks like a magic gun equivalent to the Biome Bladd
ruby cobalt
..no?
opal barn
I would feel pain in my chest if it would get even 2 stars
ruby cobalt
It looks like absolute shit, formatted like absolute shit, worded like absolute shit, and I'm 99% certain it is shit.
Literally on the edge of being called a meme suggestion.
hollow shell
Yeah its bad but does it break rules?
ruby cobalt
Too bad there was "effort" put into it.
ruby cobalt
Technically? Unfortunately it doesn't.
hollow shell
Dude there's no problem in having a shit suggestion able to be starred
cuz 50 fuckers aint gonna star it
opal barn
It's annoying that that "thing" takes so much space though
hollow shell
A bit
ruby cobalt
17 lines.
opal barn
Oh hey, another dumb suggestion
ruby cobalt
Spent 4 whole minutes wording that btw.
hollow shell
Calamity implemented its own healthbars, why not its own Chaos Hook :P
ruby cobalt
Solely for the reason "hei can I get hok of dscrdd from wuppenoute"
little raptor
wuppenoute
heady spire
For an interim upgrade to the Mana Flower; how about something like Mana Flower + Mana Regeneration Band (Which isn't used in any other recipes other than to make the Deific Amulet eventually) + Sorcerer's Emblem and Soul of Sight, to make it not too easily obtainable/ right after WoF? Would obviously replace the Mana Flower in the recipe for the Ethereal Talisman
The Ethereal Talisman already has buffed stats over the Sorcerer's Emblem alone so I don't think it should change from it's current 15% magic damage buff, but instead of just ''increased life regen'', it would be ''increased life and mana regen''
opal barn
I don't see a reason for Sorcerer's emblem in the recipe tbh
ruby cobalt
I don't see a reason for this entire item, but alright, it will do
opal barn
Well it's a lot better than the 2 previous suggestions
ruby cobalt
Ye.
heady spire
I think it's more to add a tiny bit of power to it; adding just the +20 mana and mana regen would probably feel a bit underwhelming
@ruby cobalt I'm just addicted to the Mana Flower, always have been 
ruby cobalt
Shame, Mana Regen pot is better.
wanton plover
So Dedicated key for Rod of Discord is bad? Why?
ruby cobalt
But that's subjective.
opal barn
Maybe add the Celestial Magnet into the recipe instead of Sorcerer's emblem and give it that effect?
ruby cobalt
Doesn't it just become a worse deific then?
heady spire
See, I was thinking of the Celestial Magnet, but the thing is, unless you get lucky with the Travelling Merchant (We didn't.), you can't get it until all Mechanical Bosses are down. And it would kind of overlap with Deific Amulet, which is already pretty good
opal barn
Deific specifically for mages who want to use Mana flower, so they're at a disadvantage
ruby cobalt
You can get celestial magnet as soon as you kill cryo.
In fact, you're required to kill him.
heady spire
Oh right, It's Might
Hm
Most people who would get this would craft a Deific Amulet either way, so it's kind of wasted :P
Maybe something a bit more unique/better can be added to it
heady spire
Could just be a % increased mana recovery from potions too, would probably be much simpler
ruby cobalt
Reduced mana sickness duration.
ruby cobalt
One or two seconds, at most.
Just so it's a really nice bonus, but the debuff is still there.
wanton plover
So I'm asking again, why dedicated key for Rod of Discord is terrible idea? If this makes everything to easy isn't better to delete this item or nerf it to the ground?
ruby cobalt
The item itself is fine.
Getting an INSTANT GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF THIS JAIL card isn't.
wanton plover
What? You can have this item next to your weapon and: "INSTANT GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF THIS JAIL"
but you aren't preparing your toolbar for grappling hook or healing potions
ruby cobalt
You can't.
Animations take time.
Hooks merely transport you from one point to another in a straight line with fixed speed.
wanton plover
i didnt said it doesnt have animation time
wanton plover
I mean a key you can just press and then it automatically use Rod of Discord without skipping animations
gusty geode
If it's that big of a deal, Overhaul has a "favorite" key that you can use, and I imagine there are other mods with similar functions
wanton plover
I believe, but i dont want too many mods, basically i stick to the idea "One big mod for a gameplay" Well if they don't create this "RoD" key, then welp it happens ;p
austere orchid
Drh has got a point.
There is a Hook of Discord/Chaos (chaos allows spam tp).
It’s more than enough, replacing the grapple key.
Which if you still have it at E then it’s fine.
austere orchid
Chaos too, Chaos allows warp while Chaos State is active. Discord doesn’t.
Give it a go, and let’s see.
I am not too keen but what do I know?
ruby cobalt
Waifu suggestions are banned.
ruby cobalt
Yeah, they are.
austere orchid
I don’t see a rule on that... huh..
sleek wigeon
Its an unspoken rule
wanton plover
@sleek wigeon Thanks
ruby cobalt
Looks good, maybe slightly broken on the max slots/damage part.
Juuuust a bit.
4 sounds okay.
wanton plover
@sleek wigeon But this hook of discord work just like RoD or you can just spam it?
sleek wigeon
Works just like rod
wanton plover
@sleek wigeon Thanks
sleek wigeon
dont @ me
tired haven
Belt of curses is technically elemental summoner accessory as it does give instakill properties but I'd agree that we do need something more dedicated
heady spire
@ruby cobalt Thanks for the suggestion ♥
hollow shell
Oh dang, a simulated wiki page
Pretty creative, I like it.
heady spire
Might as well make it pretty ;)
heady spire
I was mostly worried about the Mana on damage with the Deific Amulet, It's already good enough as it is, and most mages will be using Deific at that point
So not sure having 2x the effect would work, since Celestial Cuffs already don't stack with the Magic Cuffs
sleek wigeon
You could just drop the effect and have it use celestial cuffs for convienance
Since most mages upgrade straight to cuffs
heady spire
Yeah, thought about it, but it felt a bit weird to have an accessory upgrade into another and lose one of it's main feature. People will already use their cuffs to make Deific Amulet anyway, so there's no loss
tired haven
I mean there is Celestial emblem in vanilla
Which is just magnet + emblem, and it conflicts with cuffs p much
hollow shell
@cyan lagoon "Minimap" BGs?
cyan lagoon
the background when you open the map
hollow shell
That ain't mini
jovial spire
So I've got a throwing weapon idea;)
And sorry for no formatting, on mobile.
Bath Bomb Crafting: 1 Dynimte and 10 buckets of water. Fills a 10 by 10 blocks of water. It would be meant to fill up pools and stuff.
Well its not a weapon
But you get the idea
lost agate
Or you could put a liquid multiplicator
void mesa
inb4 people burst into flames over my suggestion
and/or say i'm just bad at the game
@sinful violet maybe not full sized, but little minions, around the size of the Wandering Eye enemy
cyan lagoon
smh impatient
radiant meadow
smh, starring own suggestion
will the eyes pierce?
radiant meadow
If the brothers pierce, they might not be that much better than the red devil
sinful violet
im sayin this because where does that red devil come from
frosty kindle
besides, dev weapons dont make much sense anyways, in terms of "fitting in" with the game
void mesa
Tbh I don't like it since it's just a random devil following you and not following any theme
sinful violet
I'm already in dev server, and the reception to the ideas basically all positive anyhow
Just wanted it refined here
void mesa
What do y'all think of my idea?
sleek wigeon
self star smh
frosty kindle
p good
hollow shell
@sinful violet Remove that post-star message it's bothering me inside
sinful violet
dideht
hollow shell
thank you sir
frosty kindle
@ashen warren uhh, why? mushrooms are rather common on the ground
hollow shell
It's called Crabulon
frosty kindle
regular mushrooms
sinful violet
wait what
hollow shell
ah nevermind
frosty kindle
goose
sinful violet
smh just install alchemist npc and buy them
hollow shell
Less Glowy Crabulon when
frosty kindle
Crab.
wind flicker
Suggestion make crabs drop mushrooms
sleek wigeon
but arent there already ways to farm regular potions?
lost agate
Yeh
sleek wigeon
arent there bloodorbs for pot farming too?
lost agate
Killing bosses
lost agate
Ah
ashen warren
also mana cuffs dont regen
lost agate
They regen mana when hit
sleek wigeon
Not all accessories take their ingredients effects
ashen warren
accessory that relies on taking hits to work
its a downgrade lol
till celestial emblem
sleek wigeon
Mana cuffs are fucking god tier man
radiant meadow
Mana regeneration band is pretty bad
sleek wigeon
Combine that shit with some stuff that heals you by doing damage
lost agate
It was made for vanilla difficulties smh
sleek wigeon
and boy howdy
ashen warren
payign 200+hp for like 50 mana?
livid coral
Not early game dude
ashen warren
really?
radiant meadow
besides, you can make deific amulet too
ashen warren
o ok, vania its ok
lost agate
Deific is a little bad tbh
sleek wigeon
In calamity its good too smh
lost agate
Because bugs
sleek wigeon
Its just good
radiant meadow
deific would be better with cross necklace effect but armor pierce is nice
even if def is less effective on monsters with dr
lost agate
In some cases those i frames are very nedded
sleek wigeon
Yes but not having i frames doesnt make it bad
lost agate
For example, my healt went 700 to 0 in a second when beating siren
lost agate
What potion?
ashen warren
mana regen
lost agate
Ah that
ashen warren
or jsut be lazy and touch the wizard's ball
lost agate
Not for i frames tho
ashen warren
iframes are nice
lost agate
Mage without mana regen is suicide
ashen warren
celestial cuffs dont give regen
ok the indirectly give regen due to increase in mana
deathmode they suck really bad
lost agate
Because those were not really designed for such high damages
ashen warren
good we got there
heady spire
Mana Flower 💙
ashen warren
wait this is suggstion chat ...shoot
lost agate
Mana overloader
lost agate
Idk if i should post a suggestion about deific bug
Because it could be WIP already
heady spire
Which bug are you talking about?
lost agate
Deific/rampart i frames dont work
heady spire
Aah
lost agate
Which makes it a doubtable choice
Hey that slime idea seems cool
Not for the ore but for the enemy
uneven spoke
there was no mother slime like slimes in calamity yet so I thought this would be neat
lost agate
I mean, if they make it strong enough, you will have something to worry about when mining auric ore
shadow prism
also prevents auric ore from running out, as even though it’s incredibly unlikely it really irks me that’s it’s theoretically possible to run out
lost agate
I mean, whatever makes minning auric more entrusting is cool for me
heady comet
Waifus 🤢
devout seal
@golden warren No More Waifus will be added.
that's official.
sleek wigeon
Damn that auric slime suggestion is climbing real fast
Yes, make betsy farming even more hell
uneven spoke
dear god I come back and look at the slime suggestion
spiral olive
almost 50 jace 
radiant meadow
With terra blade buff, flying dragon is pretty much outclassed
Aerial bane could be useful but I don't even use the weapon in vanilla
The bows I see at use post golem is greatbow of turmoil and tsunami
uneven spoke
dear god
radiant meadow
I almost want to unstar and make it 3 more
quiet abyss
radiant meadow
I unstarred for like 2 secs and it already got another star.
I restarred it though.
quiet abyss
uneven spoke
I starred my own suggestion that doesnt count 
neon panther
smfh
uneven spoke
Isee
radiant meadow
playing with stars is actually kind of fun
uneven spoke
About to get 50 stars, unstars to have fun
hollow shell
During the moment it had 50, it got sent in
You're good
uneven spoke
Aye
Neat
Oh yeah btw Just letting you know, The sprite sheet i provided in art server, one of the baby's sprite sheet is screwed up. @hollow shell
The sheet isnt cropper is all
Cropped*
hollow shell
Alright
frosty kindle
@uneven spoke hey guess what happened to your slime suggestion
uneven spoke
Hm?
frosty kindle
53 stars AND a checkmark
neon panther
wait guys
uneven spoke
Ye I saw 
neon panther
lets get it to 50 checkmarks
uneven spoke
Oh god
sleek wigeon
lets not meme
uneven spoke
lost agate
I guess what helped the most to the suggestion is that the sprite was already done smh
heady spire
Not sure if mine will make it to the devs, but I'm sure they do check this channel every now and then for ideas anyway :P
radiant meadow
dang it, my 56 star suggestion about the art server doesn't have a check mark
jovial spire
it would be nice if there was a gelpick equivelent for a hamaxe type
Just soemthing thats bothered me
Or is there a purified gel hamaxe and im just stupid?
cyan lagoon
No
jovial spire
kk didnt wanna fell stupid for posting this suggestion
heady spire
@frosty kindle Glad you like it; probably going to suggest other stuff eventually, I'll make more wiki copycats, it makes the suggestion super pretty. Better than just a wall of text, I think!
jovial spire
Also,
HamPic
Smells delicious...
Acts as hammer and picaxe.
Crafting: 2 bacon and 50 wood
radiant meadow
another one like flamebeak hampick?
jovial spire
Kinda
radiant meadow
how good is that tool? I never use it
jovial spire
Pretty good
radiant meadow
I always just stick to the picksaw
jovial spire
So, anything that could use changed?
radiant meadow
I thought they just wanted a faster early hardmode pick.
neon panther
no, just unbalanced
radiant meadow
maybe it has lower pick power 🤷
could have around cobalt or molten pick power to balance it out
golden warren
Does that mean waifus will also get no additional support? feelsbad that one of the neatest summons in the mod ends up being a best in slot accessory for all characters
radiant meadow
piercing makes them so much worse and summoner nerf affects half their projectiles
golden warren
Heart of the elements pretty darn gud
I know I wouldn't use it on a hard dps character tho
sleek wigeon
It fucks with dps super hard since waifus take up your i frames
golden warren
their tornados not scaling minion damage also seems wonky, AND summons just sort of stop being relevant for suprememe calamitas since he's so fast
idk, I just want to stack waifus as my damage source since theyre fun to watch :p
real parrot
@golden warren calamitas is female btw
golden warren
Gomenasorry
radiant pawn
a pretty uncontrolable witch*
real parrot
both
radiant meadow
summons stop being relevant?
guess someone's never heard of the immaterializer
tired haven
Don't we have something like flaming hampick btw?
Whichi is smh pickaxe and hammer combo
radiant pawn
How many Auric/Exo weapons did you make?
radiant meadow
you used to be able to summon 3 of them
radiant pawn
Yharon's Kindle Staff better than the Mech-Worm tho
golden warren
and the Yharon summon was just meant for buffing other classes and sucked as a viable summn
vs bosses I should say
radiant pawn
Actually no
radiant pawn
The summon has a massive dps
golden warren
I'm probably just bad
radiant pawn
When she shoots the fireblasts
Try to fly up and down slowly
So the summons can reach her more easily
golden warren
I'll try it out again this run
radiant pawn
k
golden warren
moving slowly anywhere near that boss sounds like suicide 2me
quiet abyss
Oh god more ways to make SCal fight harder
Though it would certainly be interesting and would add a bit more fun to the fight if done well
radiant meadow
See I like giving the brothers more customization but the fight is already hard as hell
The supreme brothers are quite a letdown from their doppelgangers
quiet abyss
Well to compensate, SCal could shoot less often while any brothers are alive, like how she shoot less often during sepulcher phases
heady comet
Lmao just have the brothers and seekers be invulnerable and let them persist for the entire fight
Old scal flashbacks
sleek wigeon
And it was a poorly designed "run away fight"
arctic wren
how hard was scal back then compared to today anyway?