#suggestions-discussion

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sleek wigeon
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Way more resasonable

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Not that you'd need it on golem, plantera, but i'd be nice for cali and cultist

ashen warren
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Maybe even moon boy

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Nah I'd still use homing on moon boy

sleek wigeon
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Exactly

shadow prism
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how would hitscan chloro bullets work? you just deal a constant stream of damage?

sleek wigeon
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It'd likely just miss

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due to its super high speed

shadow prism
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also certain guns like conclave would probably behave really oddly

ashen warren
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Nah hitscan on chlophoryte would just not home

shadow prism
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Also: instead of legendaries scaling with progression like they used to, make them get stat boosts after ML and doggo, kinda like how halibut gets buffed after wof and ml. This wouldn’t apply to community (already scales) and cosmic discharge (already post dog). This would make legendaries somewhat viable for a few more bosses without making 1 carry the whole game like they used to.

ashen warren
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Just make legendaries not fucking horrible tbh

vital girder
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^

ashen warren
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Like if it's 1/100 at least make it good

shadow prism
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ichor arrows in vanilla also don’t get the velocity boost

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if arrows have above a certain speed it doesn’t work

bitter topaz
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@ashen warren meme suggestion smh

hollow shell
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@polar dock No boss suggestions, especially for that

barren rain
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Boss and meme suggest 😛

ashen warren
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i don't think it counts as a meme but it's definitely not going to be accepted

cyan lagoon
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@polar dock no

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He mentioned the lorde, toby

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smh

ashen warren
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that doesn't make it a meme

hollow shell
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(it kinda does)

ashen warren
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i mean it's whatever

cyan lagoon
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the lorde has and always will be a meme

polar dock
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i just like the idea.....but if not maybe a new legendary from a boss like providence or maybe rebuff legendarys since they arent very good?

hollow shell
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Don't worry, both of those have been suggested before, and delivered to the devs

polar dock
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ok

ashen warren
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@grand patio please put your suggestions in one message

cyan lagoon
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@grand patio put them in a single messag-

ashen warren
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beat you to it

grand patio
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ok ok

alpine garnet
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still not in a single message thonk

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@grand patio

sinful violet
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that’s fine guys

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smh

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They’re not done by bot anymore

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We move them manually

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cob should know better smh

hollow shell
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Jesus Christmas

ashen warren
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@forest trellis i wouldnt recommend making boss suggestions for things that arent even released yet

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also the boss progression is already set

fierce iris
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man i miss puppetmaster draedon

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shame that theory is deadf

ashen warren
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which isnt released

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:v

alpine copper
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Aren't boss suggestions forbidden?

hollow shell
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Eh I'll star it
Doesn't really break any rules but it's pretty strange and cluttered...

alpine copper
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I mean the rules say that that the mod doesn't accept them

hollow shell
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Boss suggestion is like
"Add SANTANK-V100 boss which you summon with Omega Present crafted with Auric Ore and Naughty Present! The boss drops parachute bombs on intervals and has 2,000,000 HP..." etc etc

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Giving suggestions about the Yharim progression isn't really breakin anything

sleek wigeon
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oh

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oh my

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Thats a

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suggestion alright

quiet abyss
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Suggestions made to existing bosses are also okay, though unlikely to be accepted if its not something small

alpine copper
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Oh

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Ok

novel oasis
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but draedon is not going to be stronger then Yharim smh

buoyant robin
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that suggestion makes me suffering

paper jolt
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wait what

alpine copper
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Also as long as I remember

novel oasis
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are you sure?

alpine copper
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Draedon is an artisan not a warrior

neon panther
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yharim is after draedon

paper jolt
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isn't draedon the creator of the mechanical bosses?

novel oasis
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he’s going to be a boss but he’s weaker then scal

fierce iris
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the old lore involved a major theory where draedon was pulling the strings and actually allowed the player to rise to power to kill yharim as a power grab

novel oasis
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old being the key word

opal barn
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Yay another Yharim summoning idea lel

novel oasis
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^

alpine copper
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Drae do created the mech trio

buoyant robin
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  1. wall of text. was there even an attempt to make it formatted
  2. draedon is planned to be before scal. fabsol said this himself.
  3. does it really fit lore wise
novel oasis
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that must be old or smth

alpine copper
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But that's what he is

buoyant robin
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boi wtf it’s not that

alpine copper
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An inventor

neon panther
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goozma is the only superboss in there, and the order is wrong

novel oasis
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^

neon panther
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not going to be

cyan lagoon
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she was

novel oasis
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it won’t be in the future

alpine copper
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Dude

novel oasis
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It’s going to be changed

buoyant robin
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the order is
yharon to draedon to scal to yharim
scal won’t be a superbiss

neon panther
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Yes, we do.

paper jolt
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i can't see draedon becoming a boss

buoyant robin
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yep p much

alpine copper
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What does FUTURE means to you?

sleek wadi
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Really fuckin' old. Order is gonna be Yharon>Draedon>Scal>Yharim. Goozma is gonna be a superboss along with another one.

novel oasis
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^

buoyant robin
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presumably xeroc or bigas or andromeda

novel oasis
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probably not xeroc

sleek wadi
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All we know about the other superboss is that apparently it is after Goozma, blood moon based, and inspired by Hollow Knight

cyan lagoon
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andromeda is not confirmed

novel oasis
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it’s not confirmed but it’s possible

alpine copper
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Scal will in the future (and this hurts me a lot) no longer be a super boss

buoyant robin
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i mean these are wild guesses so

neon panther
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low chance but possible

buoyant robin
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scal won’t be a superboss in the future

paper jolt
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I mean, if scal isn't going to be a super boss anymore, wouldn't that mean she has some relevance to the story?

sleek wadi
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SCal is getting nerfed when she gets downgraded. Probably just a hitcap removal

paper jolt
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would have, rather

novel oasis
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^

buoyant robin
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yes she’s gonna become a progression boss

cyan lagoon
agile cloud
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Scal would be too easy if hitcap was removed =P

novel oasis
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doesn’t matter

alpine copper
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Scal was alway relevant to the story

buoyant robin
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yeah that’s the poin

alpine copper
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Calamitas is a clone

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Scal the real one

cyan lagoon
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Ahem.

buoyant robin
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what we’re trying to say is your suggestion doesn’t make sense lore wise

cyan lagoon
alpine copper
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Oh god a mod

buoyant robin
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it could have potential if modified but i can’t see it happening rn

alpine copper
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Everyone run

fierce iris
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@trim stratus this is probably a case of "if you sprite it, drew will add it"

neon panther
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alterra is the main furniture person i think

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and she can code a bit aswell

sleek wigeon
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Ya know you can just ask a wiki editor.

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Or contributer

ashen warren
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Okay, can you do it? slobbyjoy

neon panther
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we’re discussing it atm

ashen warren
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Okay, thanks.

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My reason behind it is that there are such a few amount of repeaters, & they basically act the same as bows.

polar dock
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MEMES

neon panther
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I beg your pardon

alpine copper
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my yoyo suggestion got 41 stars

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I CAN DO IT

ashen warren
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Seems pretty cool, I guess I'll give it a star! (I said no to the guy that said memes.)

alpine copper
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I know I saw the meme

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Now I have meme nightmares

ashen warren
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Discussion is fading out of relevancy for this area, think we should stop now.

alpine copper
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Agree

ashen warren
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Nah for the draedon suggestion, draedon is a mechanics nerd but yharim is good at like everything combat related so it definitely makes sense that he's farther along than draedon

polar dock
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meeeemes

neon panther
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yo can you not

polar dock
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meme

real parrot
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stop

neon panther
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@ashen warren time to call a mod

ashen warren
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whats up

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did he make another meme suggestion then delete it or something

novel oasis
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he's just saying memes for no reason

neon panther
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no, this dude is just repeatedly saying "memes" over and over and since he wont listen to me i think he needs a mod's authority

ashen warren
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@polar dock hey can you not be annoying

polar dock
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:{

polar dock
ashen warren
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No

jolly mirage
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r/madlads

lost agate
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Okay, i think its time to abandon this chat until another suggestion is made, for the sake of being on topic

lunar berry
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i’m pretty sure they did because you posted that 40 mins after they stopped chatting

vital grotto
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i know it's late but what don't people like about my Dread Blizzard suggestion

ashen warren
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The fact that you keep whining about it in this channel

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multi-class is hard to spec builds for

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and there's no need for another melee or magic weapon post dog

vital grotto
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stupid question i know but what exactly do you mean by "spec builds"

ashen warren
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Create builds

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Make builds

vital grotto
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and it's darksun frags

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post yharon

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there's plenty of choices for melee but not too many for mage

ashen warren
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spec means specialize

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a "glass cannon" is a spec build

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maxing out damage

vital grotto
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and i guess it's my fault that i didn't specify but i was actually thinking of making it just magic, without melee

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because it doesn't really work as intended/isn't balanced if it has a melee form that doesn't consume mana

ashen warren
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A weapon like the one in the suggestion would really only work around late hardmode if you added on block-piercing

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and mage is perfectly fine post phase1 dragoo

vital grotto
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im sorry, what do you mean "on-block piercing"

potent vortex
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Probably goes through blocks

digital sparrow
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I was literally about to suggest the despawn orbs thing
I was thinking exactly that though, how is this not a thing already

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Like “oh she’s killed” “no there’s giant orb things chasing you”

vital grotto
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the block phasing is just for convinience

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the reaper is a big projectile and it would suck if it dissapeared too early before it hit something on the ground or something like that

shadow prism
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Reaper Steroids
Causes ungodly pain, but grants immense increases to movement speed, damage and critical strike chance
Masochism, son

Made from 1 empty bottle + 1 reaper tooth + 1 diamond at an ancient manipulator

Grants a buff called Sliced (Your insides are being lacerated)
This buff causes you to take 20% more damage from all sources, inflicts an effect similar to darkness and every second has a 5% chance to apply nebula floater’s blackout effect for 10 frames.
However, it grants 10% increased damage and 10% increased crit chance (these bypass the rev+ cap) and 20% increased movement speed

The whole sliced thing and the recipe are in reference to reaper tooth’s tooltip, “strong enough to cut diamonds”, so you’re essentially just consuming a bunch of diamond shards and a reaper tooth from a glass bottle.

vital grotto
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haha lets drink this weird black thing

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oof ouch my everything

shadow prism
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bone hurting juice

vital grotto
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dont bother

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joost already did it

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smh i really dont get how you always get more stars than me

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would it be too far out to make some sort of

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nebula-floater/collosal squid crossover paint gun upgrade

shadow prism
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what

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none of those 3 have anything to do with each other

vital grotto
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ink

shadow prism
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still too vague

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recipes and items follow formulas, you can’t just find 3 things that share something and combine them

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an ink gun thing would be fine tho

vital grotto
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what's wrong with combining 3 similar items?

shadow prism
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different tiers

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different environments

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also squids and floaters don’t even drop materials

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so how do you combine a weapon with 2 enemies without drops

vital grotto
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you could use a material around the same level as an alternate

shadow prism
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yeah but then it loses all correlation

vital grotto
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true

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i was thinking something like Paint Gun, Nebula Frags, Tenebris, and Ruinous Souls

shadow prism
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tenebris + lumenyl + depth cells + paint gun + black ink makes sense, ruinous souls are reserved for bloodflare and nebula frags just aren’t relevant

vital grotto
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ew no not black ink

shadow prism
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if it’s an ink cannon it makes sense

vital grotto
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i never use items like blocks or accessories or dyes and other things to make weapons

shadow prism
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ok

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also, speed blaster exists and there usually aren’t 2 different upgrades to the same weapon (besides phoenix blaster)

vital grotto
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and nano purge

shadow prism
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laser machinegun

vital grotto
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more mods should have alt paths for weapons tbh

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well it gives you something different to try with another playthrough

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and I just think that these basic upgrades or Exo-weapons are something everyone's thought of before

shadow prism
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true

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if possible, it helps to dig around on the wiki and find weapons without upgrades, just makes it seem a little more realistic

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though using a weapon that already has one is fine too

vital grotto
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haha i do that all the time

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hey you should suggest some sort of bomb throwing weapon

shadow prism
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there’s plenty of those already

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however

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birb feather throwing weapon HDfailure

vital grotto
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plenty?

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really?

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guess i come around the wrong times then

shadow prism
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ballistic potion bomb, brackish flask, duststorm in a bottle, the list goes on

hearty yew
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@shadow prism you forgot purge guzzler

shadow prism
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it’s a boss drop therefore not a mat

hearty yew
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in Radiance

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uh

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that disqualifies it?

vital grotto
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what

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oh nvm'

shadow prism
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there aren’t many boss drop weapons with upgrades

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holy collider? daemon’s flame? excelsus? etc

hearty yew
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ok

vital grotto
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whats the point of them sticking to enemies

shadow prism
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mostly for the visual effect

vital grotto
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it's light

hearty yew
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the swarmer, lazhar, t1000 and effervescence are ALL upgraded boss drops

vital grotto
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yeah

hearty yew
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😏

shadow prism
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yeah but they’re upgraded boss drops

heady comet
vital grotto
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use purge guzzler

shadow prism
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find one calamity boss whose drop has an upgrade

hearty yew
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so why can't this be an upgraded boss drop

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AH YES

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That was the distinction I was about to nail down

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well

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I was gonna say

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Post ML boss drop upgrade

shadow prism
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also the projectiles now ignore i frames meaning the sticking effect is really stronk now

vital grotto
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too strong i say

hearty yew
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exact balancing is always up to the devs

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don't worry about it

shadow prism
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nerfed it from 15 > 7 frames of sticking

hearty yew
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like legit just don't worry about the numbers

vital grotto
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should also give it one of those terra-ray weapons

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heck

hearty yew
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those are wands

vital grotto
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you done even need to include one of the weapons

hearty yew
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not magic guns

vital grotto
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just make it a chance

shadow prism
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also hello from the super metroid hacking server oz

hearty yew
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...

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yes you are one of the few overlaps

vital grotto
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every 3 shots fires one of the special attacks

shadow prism
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that’s like putting a rocket launcher in photoviscerator’s recipe

vital grotto
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well hey

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you put a bee gun with a bunch of lasers

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cmon man

hearty yew
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^^

vital grotto
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don't limit yourself to rules like that

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have fun

hearty yew
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unless this thing

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also shoots exploding profaned bees

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that shoot lasers

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which I guess is totally reasonable

vital grotto
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just make it a homing shotblast

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occasional homing rainbow shotblast

shadow prism
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all exo weapons are made from weapons of one type, this isn’t an exception (also swarmer’s effects would break radiance pretty bad)

vital grotto
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also where is aether's whisper

hearty yew
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counts as a snipe

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see his previous suggestions

vital grotto
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or black anuarian

hearty yew
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^

vital grotto
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or magna striker

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or eidolic wail

shadow prism
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if you do anurian, you have to do every other abyss weapon

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same with wail

vital grotto
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or plasma rifle

shadow prism
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magna cannon has an upgrade already

vital grotto
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which is dumb but still here

shadow prism
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plasma is in it

hearty yew
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plasma rifle is in there

vital grotto
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i said magna striker

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they went from magic and ranged

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to ranged

shadow prism
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that’s a ranged weapon

vital grotto
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the next step is magic

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it's only fair

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or efferescence

shadow prism
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this is magic guns only, if it’s not classed as one it ain’t going in the recipe

hearty yew
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Christ could you imagine firing an alpha ray of bees

quiet abyss
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-> Weapon name Radiance
-> "Remember...light..."
...Gee wonder what this one references LUL
Also don't limit ya self like that man

shadow prism
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I’m not limiting myself, I’m just basing it off the other exo recipes

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I try to keep my recipes as true to existing calamity stuff as I can

hearty yew
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exo weapons already don't inherit every random effect

shadow prism
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this doesn’t inherit quite a few things

vital grotto
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exo weapons are dumb tbh

hearty yew
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photoviscerator doesn't do god slayer inferno

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heavenly gale doesn't fucking glitch out like mad

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( astreal defeat )

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exoblade doesn't shoot 3 billion different sword beams

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you get the point

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don't feel limited by some sort of exo rigidity

vital grotto
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^^^

shadow prism
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radiance completely ignores plasma rifle, lazhar and swarmer (as in it doesn’t inherit effects)

quiet abyss
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@humble island Already somewhat in effect
The test versions are sent to testers, which are those with "cool dudes" role

hearty yew
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yeah that's how that works already

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calamity boss drop with upgrade: cosmic discharge

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yes it's the biggest meme

shadow prism
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it’s a legendary and apoth doesn’t count

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it’s made from an exo weapon and 3 of the same sword

hearty yew
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Yes I'm aware I'm just pointing it out!

shadow prism
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ok

vital grotto
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that efferescence effect kinda sucks too

hearty yew
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effervescence actually just sucks

vital grotto
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true

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so

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make the upgrade better

shadow prism
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it would be broken af if it just spawned a crapton of bubbles that shot holy lasers or whatever

vital grotto
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not saying it has to do that

shadow prism
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effervescence is basically just there because it’s a magic gun

vital grotto
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Exo weapons dont even include all the loose weapons of their class

shadow prism
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there’s a few left out here

vital grotto
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if it's going to have an effect as lame as that dont bother including it

shadow prism
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alright, I’ll take out effervesence, swarmer and lazhar

vital grotto
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also

hearty yew
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electro

vital grotto
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you didnt add too too much new stuff with all these combined weapons

hearty yew
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that wouldn't be broken as fuck

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That would be voltaic climax

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and magnetic meltdown

shadow prism
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the orbs stick to the boss and damage it every frame

vital grotto
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it's easy to balance something with a small chance of firerate

hearty yew
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assuming it's a boss

shadow prism
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the lasers annihilate any supports

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if it had as many bubbles as effervescence it would just be too much

vital grotto
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how about making a mega bubble that expands and freezes, and makes a flash-freeze explosion at it's climax or something
sticks to enemies too

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or "exosplosion"

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also

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add some more original effects

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make some thing that "crystallizes" enemies or some random chance beam

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that fractures into 6 beams when it pierces an enemy

shadow prism
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if it more original it would fire bouncing hitscan orbs that left an instantly appearing trail of dust, like shadowbeam, that in turn spawned exo bubbles that exploded on enemy contact and summoned a barrage of holy flames

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but that’d be way too complicated to code/implement

vital grotto
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so it

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leaves behind a trail

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that fires out fireballs in random directions

shadow prism
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no

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it’s more like leaving behind hyperius bullet mines

vital grotto
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so fireballs

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go towards the trail?

shadow prism
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the trail is the mines

vital grotto
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and the mines do what

shadow prism
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the mines are the exo bubbles

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actually the above thing was poorly thought out anyways

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completely separate idea:

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Reaper Steroids
Causes ungodly pain, but grants immense increases to movement speed, damage and critical strike chance
Masochism, son

Made from 1 empty bottle + [1 reaper tooth + 1 diamond] or [40 blood orbs] at an ancient manipulator (or alchemy table for the blood orb version)

Grants a buff called Sliced (Your insides are being lacerated) for 30 minutes
This buff causes you to take 20% more damage from all sources, inflicts an effect similar to the darkness debuff and every second has a 5% chance to apply nebula floater’s blackout effect for 10 frames.
However, it grants 10% increased damage and 10% increased crit chance (these bypass the rev+ cap) and 20% increased movement speed.

The whole sliced thing and the recipe are in reference to reaper tooth’s tooltip, “strong enough to cut diamonds”, so you’re essentially just consuming a bunch of diamond shards and a reaper tooth from a glass bottle.

vital grotto
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brb imma take a shower

sleek wigeon
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Ouch

shadow prism
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one other suggestion:
Reaper Fist or Reaper Claws
Swole arm from a swole shark or Sharp edges, handle with care
Made from 5 reaper teeth + 15 lumenyl + 10 depth cells + 5 tenebris + [1 flairon] or [1 mantis claws] at an ancient manipulator

[(Flail) Fires a reaper fist like KO cannon that shoots out homing reaper spikes, the fist itself ignores i frames. Deals absurd knockback.] or [Immensely powerful claws that ignore i frames and just obliterate whatever they’re hitting but have abysmal range]

split hatch
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You always have such creative ideas. (:

reef gorge
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agreed

neon panther
radiant meadow
ashen warren
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Ew no stop please

radiant meadow
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ok, you have to add more detail than just say "add an exo gun"

neon panther
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also err no low quality suggestions like “add an exo-gun,” be specific

hollow shell
potent vortex
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Bad suggestion

ashen warren
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"add an exo-gun" there are like 20 different suggestions for an exo-gun that actually have mechanics typed out

foggy shard
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thanks

buoyant robin
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that’s still not a good sugggestion

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describe the abilities of the bullets, describe how big the hit boxes would actually be, how to craft it, format it, etc.

strong monolith
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Also put it all into one message

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It would be hard for someone to pieve together what you're saying if it's in different messages slobbyjoy

buoyant robin
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yeah that too.

wicked swift
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And the star system

foggy shard
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I described abilities

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oops forgot crafting

opal barn
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Put it all in one message

wicked swift
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You're getting closer, now just put all that in one suggestion

buoyant robin
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put it all into one message and format t

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it

wicked swift
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sees Teragho0ost
OH THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T SEEN TERAGAT IN AGES

buoyant robin
opal barn
ruby cobalt
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Are you gonna keep ignoring the "compile it into one message" part?

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Alrighty then.

opal barn
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I bet $10 he will

ruby cobalt
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@tepid wadi Meta, can you please help?

tepid wadi
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Not really. I have job interview in a second .-.

ruby cobalt
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O shit, gl on that.

buoyant robin
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also @foggy shard 1/3 of a razor blade typhoon is way too big for a spread of 10 bullets, especially one with “massive damage”

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and how would the whole “bullet from the sky” thing work?

radiant meadow
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like conclave crossfire

buoyant robin
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doesn’t seem practical nor useful in that stage

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maybe i’m just dumb idk

radiant meadow
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probably not and none ignore iframes so I see that piercing is gonna be an issue

neon panther
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compiling into 1 message is a good thing to do but its not super important anymore

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since we manually put suggestions in the dev server now

worthy fiber
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Doesn't mean they shouldn't 🤔

neon panther
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doesn't mean they shouldn't but we don't have to force them to

wicked swift
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Did suggestion bot stop working or did he not work at all

ruby cobalt
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It kind of died due to discord eating many pants with discord.py

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So until that outdated junk gets its fill of updates - bot's a no-no

wicked swift
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I see

ruby cobalt
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Alright, now that can be qualified as a low-effort suggestion and warrants a warn HyperFailure

wicked swift
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literally everyone starts typing as soon as he posts a new suggestion

ruby cobalt
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It's not even a new suggestion.

buoyant robin
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@foggy shard delete the previous suggestions, name could use some work, alpha ray definitely shouldn’t be there (why not isn’t a good reason)

opal barn
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The only thing I like about that suggestion is the Phil Swift daryl

buoyant robin
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also, should the exo bullets not be differently colored to differentiate the different abilities?

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just my thoughts since that’s what the heavenly gale does.

ruby cobalt
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Effervescence did the damage type change, but it's still not a reason for alpha ray.

buoyant robin
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also: “one a beam”
do you mean like an alpha ray beam? be more specific.

wicked swift
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I like how he didn't even bother to make up a name for it

buoyant robin
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“why i want it: i’m upset there isn’t an exo gun”

strong monolith
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My idea of an exo gun:
Astraclasm: Rapidly fires a bullet at a time with a 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets that infinitely pierce enemies and if an enemy is hit, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the lunar flare attack) to fire into the enemy, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving a range of debuffs. If the bullet hits the ground, bounces once and splits into 3-4 "Vanquisher Bullets" in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Nebula Arcanum attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time.

As an extension: HyperFailure
Vanquisher bullets: Pierce infinitely and if it hits an enemy, will deal shattering damage similar to the Crystal bullets or Terra Bullets. Would probably use the same materials as Vanquisher arrows.

Then again, it's just my thoughts slobbyjoy
Also I ain't posting this into suggestions since it is a hot topic

foggy shard
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name

ashen warren
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Oh god

foggy shard
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It means death

ashen warren
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Stellar striker but it's a gun

strong monolith
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ignore "triple damage" Henkhenk

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oh my god now it's a meme

ruby cobalt
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@worthy raptor bby come over for a second

worthy raptor
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o ok

ruby cobalt
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We have a meem that needs to be looked over by your majestic eyes.

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Shit, he deleted the othergaemz channel suggestion, that would've been cherry on top

ashen warren
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Wow bringing out the big boys

ruby cobalt
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The lil boy mode didn't work.

buoyant robin
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yeah p much slobbyjoy

ashen warren
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Job Interview

worthy raptor
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that gun seems like a massive meme ngl

ashen warren
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SMH your job is supposed to modding

ruby cobalt
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It was even more of a meme before when it was "add exo gun idk"

worthy raptor
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oh but now it's just "op gun"

ashen warren
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Reason: "I'm upset"

buoyant robin
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i don’t know a name sorry

ruby cobalt
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EXO GUN -> dissolution -> dude idk

wicked swift
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it's better than "EXO GUN" at least

ashen warren
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Also asking for GD help in suggestions smh

buoyant robin
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yeah Henkhenk

foggy shard
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nevermind that, I'm coming up with a suggestion much better.

wicked swift
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oh boy, can't wait

ruby cobalt
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Is this adir all over again?

buoyant robin
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guys he’s clearly making god tier fogbound level suggestions

strong monolith
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oh my GOD THINK OF THE ENTIRE SUGGESTION AND POST IT IN ONE MESSAGE

wicked swift
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Or Spidey, remember that guy

strong monolith
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JUST THE TITLE ISNT ENOUGH

wicked swift
strong monolith
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anyways, any thoughts on my idea of the gun? slobbyjoy
I'd say it's not some super Rube Goldberg machine but it's still an intricate gun

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Also Vanquisher bullets deepthonk

buoyant robin
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the hella flares things is just stellar striker but it’s a gun

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and infinite piercing too

ashen warren
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crabbar intensifies

buoyant robin
tired haven
buoyant robin
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but yeah the on hit effects could use some work

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where’s the crafting recipe HDhurdur

low hedge
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exo grenade when smh

ashen warren
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Exo slime mount when

strong monolith
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smh I'm not gonna put an entire shopping list HDhurdur

wicked swift
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ONE SUGGESTION PER MESSAGE PLEASE

ashen warren
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Bounching on an enemy head instantly flattens them Mario style

wicked swift
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Exo pet

foggy shard
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what about my new suggestion

ashen warren
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Alright

foggy shard
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exo character

ashen warren
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What about my new suggestion though

strong monolith
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Exo potion: Requires every single potion and a Tuna at Draedon's Forge with Yharon Soul Fragments, Birb Pheromones and Cosmolite Bars
Every buff possible for 30 minutes
Henkhenk Henkhenk

foggy shard
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exo dabbing

ashen warren
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No bad

strong monolith
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you mean "not bad" ecksdee
But seriously I don't think anyone would use that anyways slobbyjoy

ashen warren
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No I meant "no, bad

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Because dabbing bad

strong monolith
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oh okay

foggy shard
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exo yeeting

low hedge
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exo wings

ashen warren
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Thanks oompa

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I have a suggestion for the name

quiet abyss
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Regarding the arrow suggestion, the upgrade is actually worse than its preupgrade
The fact that it pierces mean that it can only hit 6 times per second no matter how many barrages of phantoplasm arrows you're actually firing at the enemy, while the preupgrade arrows will all hit

strong monolith
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are there any post ML bullets other then Holy Fire bullets? slobbyjoy

quiet abyss
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Nope

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Only those

strong monolith
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o

ashen warren
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Tier 3 homing bullet might be interesting

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Like vanquisher bullets

foggy shard
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Phantoplasm homing bullets

strong monolith
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Don't Vanquisher arrows anyways home in?

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I want to try making the bullet variant have a different effect, just like Luminite arrows and bullets

ashen warren
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That's true

neon panther
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Im gonna think of a counterpart to Holy Fire Bullets that's upgraded from one of the other vanilla bullets

strong monolith
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Anyways with how fast most guns are at that stage, it wouldnt be necessary for a homing bullet

ashen warren
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But I think it would help make yjaron tier guns not horrible

radiant meadow
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exactly how many yharon tier guns are there?

ashen warren
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Because bows get like bloodflare, and vanguisher arrows

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Like 3

radiant meadow
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like dragon's breath, minigun, sdfmg, halibut?

ashen warren
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Halibut, sdfmg, and minigun

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Yeah

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But they all suck and I think it's because the arrow choices are so much better

quiet abyss
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@foggy shard Also...
"Maybe a short debuff. Like "Possessed" maybe?"
This is not how you make a suggestion
You can't just say "Hey this thing has debuff but I don't know what the debuff will do and what it'll be called" and expect the devs to be able to know what you want
That sentence gives the devs nothing to go by, and they won't have any idea as to what exactly do you want the debuff to be
Please, elaborate more on your suggestions

foggy shard
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ok

ashen warren
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Like bloodflare arrows have fantastic survivability, and vanquisher has great damage

strong monolith
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So maybe Spectral Bullets (Phantoplasm and Ectoplasm combined into a bullet) that homes in and does various dungeon based debuffs?

ashen warren
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I was thinking post ml

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But that might be cool

radiant meadow
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dungeon based debuffs? like broken armor and on fire?

strong monolith
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When I mean dungeon based, I mean the debuffs that each and every possible dungeon enemy and boss gives to you when they attack you

radiant meadow
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I don't understand

foggy shard
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I added to my suggestion

radiant meadow
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well, the only debuffs I remember enemies give you are broken armor, on fire, bleeding, darkness, and whatever skeletron does

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and cursed

ruby cobalt
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Broken Armor, Cursed, Bleeding, Darkness.

strong monolith
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a damn those are much worse on a player HyperFailure

radiant meadow
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the only one that's remotely useful in combat is broken armor

strong monolith
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nvm slobbyjoy

ashen warren
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Exp bullet but they apply every single debuff with 100x the strength but deal no damage

ruby cobalt
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So is bleeding, but mobs don't really regen

ashen warren
foggy shard
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Maybe the debuff on the enemy will be called "Wrath of skeletron"

ashen warren
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Nah

radiant meadow
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providence and moon lord regen, but I doubt it affects them

ashen warren
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Call them spooky bullets

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Halloween calamity special

strong monolith
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Maybe the Spectral bullets can do a debuff that's the opposite of the Grax Buff deepthonk

ashen warren
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What's grax buff again

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Not really a melee guy

ruby cobalt
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!wiki grax buff

red stormBOT
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https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Grax
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page grax buff for a direct link or !wiki search grax buff for a list of all hits.

Calamity Mod Wiki

The Grax is a craftable post-Moon Lord Hamaxe. Striking an enemy with it will grant the player the Grax Boost buff for 8 seconds, which increases defense by 30, damage reduction by 5%, melee speed by 5%, melee damage by 10%, and melee critical strike chance by 10%.
Its best m...

foggy shard
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Increases defense by 30, damage reduction by 5%, melee speed by 5%, melee damage by 10%, and melee critical strike chance by 10%.

strong monolith
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^

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Except replace "melee" with general damage

ashen warren
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That would be a great debuff

neon panther
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I'm not trying to steal anything you guys are discussing but if I end up doing I apologize slobbyjoy

quiet abyss
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I'm slow at typing hahayes
Also: "one homing, one massive damage, one piercing, one bouncy, one fast, one from the sky, one splitting, one a beam, one giving debuffs, and one with a vanquisher arrow like effect."
That's by far one of the most random combination of effects I've ever seen
To me, it seems like you made all bullets have different effects just...for the sake of variety
And while variety is always nice, too many varieties are bad.

strong monolith
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I copyright and trademark all my messages Hyperin HyperSiren

foggy shard
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ok, but now I think that exo gun is stupid

ashen warren
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Quality over quantity messages

quiet abyss
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I've posted messages telling someone about "Quality over Quantity" so many times I've gotten used to it slobbyjoy
...And also messages telling someone to elaborate more

ruby cobalt
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There you go, gave you another bullet suggestion.

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Gimme big thonks.

quiet abyss
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Oh damn, -15% DR

ashen warren
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That's big boy

quiet abyss
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Me likey 👍

ruby cobalt
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Not too much, not too small.

radiant meadow
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electrified 0.o mobs never stop

ruby cobalt
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Ichor and cursed flames are your only options at reducing damage.

radiant meadow
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MfD isn't a thing

ruby cobalt
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The debuff lasts 2.5 seconds, you fucking serious

neon panther
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god fucking dammit i was gonna suggest a reaper-themed bullet but then they're both post-polter AAAAA

radiant meadow
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and don't you mean increasing dmg?

neon panther
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or i guess might as well

ashen warren
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I'm doing a cosmolite bullet

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Just need to think of another effect

foggy shard
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I want to make my own mod MUCH bigger than calamity, so maybe I can add ghost arrows to that.

ashen warren
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Good luck

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You good at coding

wicked swift
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a mod bigger than calamity?

strong monolith
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Dude Calamity has like 1000+ items slobbyjoy

wicked swift
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almost dies laughing

strong monolith
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Good Luck hahayes

ruby cobalt
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If anything I'd decrease damage on eidolic bullets, because 30 now seems excessive with electrified dealing like 16 DoT.

foggy shard
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Not really, but I bet I'll learn. I have massive ideas! Of a lore, special bossfights, extended map, joke things, etc.

radiant meadow
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maybe instead of electrified, frostburn or something?

ruby cobalt
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Electrified's there to fit with eidolists' theme, since they fire off lightning orbs.

ashen warren
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I bet I learn is not the greatest start

wicked swift
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Don't make a tremor

foggy shard
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no

ashen warren
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Like you really need to be pretty good

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Wish you luck though

wicked swift
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similarely: I'm having trouble on expert so I'm not even gonna attempt Death yet

foggy shard
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It'll have special bosses, it's theme will be on nights/terra/beyond weapons.

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also nights/terra/beyond bosses!

wicked swift
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This is getting off-topic

foggy shard
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yeah

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but I have big ideas.

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but I'll stop

neon panther
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ben, terra bullets exist

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should be an upgraded terra bullet

ashen warren
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Not homing no

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Though

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They explode into homing shards after hits

neon panther
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yeah but terra bullets are crystal bullet upgrades

ashen warren
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Oh really

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Alright thanks

wicked swift
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the homing ones are clorophyte

ashen warren
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I'm basing it off vanquisher arrows

wicked swift
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gtg now laptop is dying

ashen warren
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Which is where the homing comes from

strong monolith
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Should I even post my Vanquisher bullet suggestion? slobbyjoy

ruby cobalt
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I guess you could say since everyone's bulletstorming these suggestions, you might as well HDfailure

potent vortex
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Dear god, where is the arrow suggestion

radiant meadow
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I see that the last 3 suggestions are bullets and 1 arrow suggestion before that.

ashen warren
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Yeah lol

radiant meadow
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Where are the rocket suggestions?

ruby cobalt
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They were here yesterday.

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I'mma try to think of something for HM throwing tbh.

low hedge
#

MIND BOOLETS

ashen warren
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Like what part of hm

neon panther
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pretty much all of hm throwing sucks tbh

ruby cobalt
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Late HM, it pretty much sucks.

neon panther
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early-hm isnt that good either

ruby cobalt
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Early doesn't suck too much because Lionfish for cryo, Ice Stars for everything else, Brimblade once you can get it.

ashen warren
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So your talking like post golem

ruby cobalt
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But it still is a massive PITA to deal with.

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Ye, post-golem your options are what, paladin's hammer and brackish flask?

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Good fucking options, if you ask me.

neon panther
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and that one boomerang thing

radiant meadow
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yeah, late hardmode is pretty much brackish flask, ataxia thingy, ballistic poison bomb, and paladin's hammer

neon panther
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oh and possessed hatchet

radiant meadow
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duststorm in a bottle too

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possessed hatchet is melee though

ashen warren
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Could be like a golem drip

ruby cobalt
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I don't think calamity has a recipe for transferring hatchet into throwing.

ashen warren
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Or maybe Leviathan since his drops are all bad

neon panther
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oh

radiant meadow
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Calamity has the true paladin's hammer throwing variant though

potent vortex
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Fargo have thrower hatchet variant

radiant meadow
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umm, brackish flask isn't too bad

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for thrower anyways

ruby cobalt
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It's practically your only option.

ashen warren
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You could try a possessed hatchet upgrade

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Like throwing multiple at a time like the disk upgardes but they could home like the hatchet

radiant meadow
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I was about to suggest an exo boomerang with possessed hatchet upgrade and true paladin's but then I realized there already was one.

ashen warren
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Not like a scythe train with like 15 at once

ruby cobalt
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Might've thought of something like Lionfish.

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Basically this:
Haunted Axe
Upgraded Possessed Hatchet. Upon contact sticks to enemies and forces them to bleed. Also homes, like it's predecessor.

ashen warren
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Multiple sticks like lion fish and not like piranha gun right

ruby cobalt
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But that's not enough for a decent suggestion.

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Ye, multiple sticks.

ashen warren
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And homing like the hatchet?

alpine copper
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I was browsing through suggestions and theres already at least 3 exo related suggestions above 50 stars
2 of them moved to dev server

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More news at 11

ruby cobalt
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Well, naturally it homes.

quiet abyss
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...Take 20% more damage, but gives 10% damage and crit that bypass rev+ cap
This...this is literally "Dimensional Soul Artifact Potion"

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And obtainable pre-DoG as well...

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I'm...not entirely sure how to feel about this

faint rivet
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but that's a lot of incoming damage, strong for nohitters tho

quiet abyss
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Especially considering that this thing can stacks with the actual Dimensional Soul Artifact for whopping 25% damage and crit that bypass rev+ cap, at the cost of receiving 45% more damage
That's...way too much.
Might as well make the rev+ cap 110% with those 2 equipped
And yes, looking from a nohitter's standpoint this thing is amazing, but ya gotta think about general balance as well

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Personally I think this is a bit too extreme
But maybe I'm just being overly cautious about balance
I'll star it

shadow prism
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nerfed it, it’s now 5% damage and crit chance

jolly mirage
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5% for both seems too low, mostly because you can craft Yharim's Stimulants before Reaper Sharks even start dropping Reaper Teeth. Yharim's Stimulants provide 10% dmg, 5% crit, and a bunch of other benefits while not even having a downside other than a somewhat expensive recipe.

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TL;DR, it just seems like a worse Yharim's Stimulants even though it's locked behind Polterghast

ruby cobalt
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Ignores rev cap.

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Meaning it's not a 1.25% boost.

jolly mirage
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Oh

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OK, I guess it's fine. If it can bypass the Rev soft cap, then it's probably better than Yharim's Stims in Rev+

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It would still be weaksauce in Normal and Expert though

radiant meadow
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well, it's still technically preboss

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cuz of blood orbs

jolly mirage
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Ancient Manipulator

radiant meadow
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"(or alchemy table for the blood orb version)"

jolly mirage
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Oh

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Whoops

ruby cobalt
jolly mirage
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yeah yeah, I'm dumb

shadow prism
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changed the blood orb version so it’s made at Draedon’s forge

jolly mirage
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That sounds like a good fix

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It was certainly weird that the base recipe was post-Polterghast but the Blood Orb version could be made in Pre-Hardmode

radiant meadow
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You could also change the recipe kind of like how revivify pots need holy water instead of bottled water for their blood orb recipe

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although, I don't know what would fit better

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wait, I just realized the suggestion uses an empty bottle instead of bottled water 0.o why

jolly mirage
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Why need water when you could just chug diamond shards amirite

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But yeah, that probably needs to be fixed

night cradle
shadow prism
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Three separate but related suggestions:

  1. Elemental Claws
    Has a low chance to fire an ethereal claw projection
    Made from 1 mandible claws + 1 mycelial claws + 1 fetid baghnakhs + 1 shroomite digging claws + 5 luminite bars + 5 galactica singularities at an ancient manipulator

Each swing of the claws has a 1% chance to fire a large claw projection, similar to apoth, that stays in place and ignores i frames

  1. Reaper Claws
    Sharp edges, handle with care
    Made from 5 reaper teeth + 30 lumenyl + 10 depth cells + 10 tenebris + 1 mantis claws at an ancient manipulator

Each swing of the claws has a 1% chance to fire an incredibly fast, i-frame-ignoring version of valediction that deals melee damage

  1. Godmaster’s Claws
    Sharp enough to tear a hole in spacetime itself
    Made from 1 elemental claws + 1 reaper claws + 3 yharon soul fragments + 5 nightmare fuel + 5 endothermic energy + 5 darksun fragments + 25 auric ore at a Draedon’s forge

Exo claws that ignore i frames and have a 3% chance per swing to fire an incredibly fast homing rainbow scythe

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thoughts?

worthy fiber
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lmao pinkie

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tbh the percentages seem too low

shadow prism
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they swing every 3 frames or so

quiet abyss
#

Whoops fuck

worthy fiber
quiet abyss
night cradle
potent vortex
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Lol

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Seem really good tho

bitter topaz
night cradle
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Tbh I would say that RS is too hard to have a 0.5 chance to drop anything

shadow prism
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it’s not .5% chance to drop

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it’s crafted

night cradle
#

Wait

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Wait a minute Im dumb again

bitter topaz
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@orchid hatch the browser told fab to eat pant

potent vortex
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Why aren't there a terra tier claw tho

ashen warren
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Mod browser eat pant tbh

bitter topaz
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when fab attempted to upload it he couldn't

orchid hatch
#

I know

worthy fiber
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so he eat pant HDfailure

night cradle
shadow prism
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there aren’t enough claws to justify a terra tier

orchid hatch
#

So absol should talk to jopo

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This is not an issue

night cradle
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Make Cosmilite claws

ashen warren
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Who is jopo

night cradle
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And make yharon ones HDfailure

potent vortex
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Ataxia claw too

worthy fiber
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Jopo's the tModLoader big boy

shadow prism
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was going to, but then there’s too many items in 1 post

orchid hatch
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@ashen warren tml dev and browser maintainer

worthy fiber
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Jopojelly?

ashen warren
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Ok

quiet abyss
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Ah, was wondering why Jopo sounds familiar

shadow prism
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should I post the claws thing as is or split it into 3 separate but consecutive posts

ashen warren
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Keep it as one

shadow prism
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k

quiet abyss
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Keep it as one
Suggestions that are related to each other can be posted in one post
The "Don't put more than one thing in your suggestions" is for stuffs that aren't related to each other much at all

subtle cipher
#

c

ashen warren
#

d

lusty topaz
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I think the devs could put more warframe guns as endgame items

tired haven
#

Personally I think if ever using references taking more than 2-3 from single game is pretty bad style

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though currently there is only 1 wf gun but eh

ruby cobalt
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And a shitton of MGR references

tired haven
lusty topaz
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@tired haven I do too but i want to use a vectis prime to one shot some early game bosses

tired haven
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use overclocked stellar striker to oneshot postML bosses

lusty topaz
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It isn't that cool but thanks for the advice

shadow prism
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buff halibut cannon after scal so it’s viable for boss rush HyperFailure

dull kite
#

no stop

shadow prism
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buff halibut after yharon so it (and by extension ranger) is viable for scal then Henkhenk

bitter topaz
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halibut is already viable for SCal though smh

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also why are buff the halibut memes still a thing

tired haven
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Because "nerf the halibut" persons still exist

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Perfect balance

stuck bane
#

What's the halibut cannon

ruby cobalt
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Idiots balance each other out

stuck bane
#

What's this talk about the halibut cannon

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Am I overlooking something

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Aaaaaa

alpine copper
lost agate
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Its actually easy to notice @stoic narwhal

#

If things instakill you is armaggedon

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If your hp is halfed is defiled rune

bitter topaz
#

the QoL changes make sense

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you gotta keep in mind most people in this server and outside too have the IQ of a rock

lost agate
#

I mean, its a good detail

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I wouldnt need it, but who knows about someone else

delicate raft
#

You can just use the item again to check if its activated or not

lost agate
#

But as bidoof said: some people just dont think about that

quiet tangle
#

An auric lance

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which we surprisingly don't have

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i know elemental lance is good but it's not the same tier

buoyant robin
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exoblade is all you need

quiet tangle
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exoblade is trash

buoyant robin
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ok

quiet tangle
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TBH ark of the cosmos is better

hollow shell
#

Aww, the effects of that spear could be more interesting than that

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This is an EXO weapon

quiet tangle
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well i can't think of anything off the top of my head, so i looked up the other effects

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holy flames instead of exo freeze

buoyant robin
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@vivid finch put your suggestion in one message

hollow shell
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(if that was your whole suggestion, you're gonna have to elaborate more than that)

cyan lagoon
#

any minimod

quiet tangle
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only problem is that vivid clarity might need a resprite cause it already looks like a spear

dull kite
#

smugyon cob

hollow shell
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And I'm thinking the spear could have something to do with summoning images of the spear upon hitting enemies, which fly around and deal damage
Also not the most original effect, but it's better than just some homing projectiles
Hell, you could have both

quiet tangle
#

true

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like draconic destruction

hollow shell
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I was thinking more like Elemental Lance

ashen warren
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@buoyant robin nice minimod btw

hollow shell
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Celestus does a more Draconic Destruction kinda thing

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(Cob beat you to it, Toby)

buoyant robin
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sorry slobbyjoy

quiet tangle
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i mean how they go up and down

dull kite
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smugyon toby

hollow shell
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Also I'm not a mod and I say that stuff all the time deepthonk

dull kite
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Ikr

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I was thinking the same thing

hollow shell
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(What's Desgold doin, by the way? Did somebody delete his suggestion again hastily?
Because it was a complete one this time)

cyan lagoon
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he deleted it himself

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nothing in audit logs

hollow shell
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Odd

ashen warren
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@hollow shell doesn't stop me from saying it smugyon

arctic wren
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Profaned Soul Artifact
Balance
Made with 5 Cinderplate + 10 Divine Geode + 10 Unholy Essence + 15 Exodium Cluster
All damage inflicts Abyssal Flames and Holy Flames debuffs
Losing Mana will restore a small amount of health
Losing Health will restore mana

Health gain rate would be perhaps 1 hp per 5 mana? I want it to be useful without being utterly overpowered.
I imagine the mana gain for getting damaged will basically work like the Magic Cuffs.
Healing rate would be significantly nerfed while using Yharim's Crystal or Last Prism so you don't have full heath every few seconds from using them.

I wanted something that embodies 'balance', since Providence is a neutral goddess and a balance of light and dark. So why not equivalent exchange?

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any comments?

sinful violet
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mmm

reef gorge
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sounds good

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i like it

sinful violet
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still looks like it could be abused slightly

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mana flower and potions are a thing, and the crystal/prism weapons aren't the only which chew through mana

reef gorge
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maybe make it so the health gain from losing mana doesnt happen when mana sickness is on

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?

sinful violet
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then the accessory just seems useless

reef gorge
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yeah

sinful violet
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health based off of using something beneficial to you would be hard to balance

reef gorge
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maybe increase mana as health decreases

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oh wait

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nvm

arctic wren
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hmm

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🤔

reef gorge
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🤔

arctic wren
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What other weapons chew through mana a lot?

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or could just have the healing be reduced but not stop entirely with mana sickness

sinful violet
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most post ML weapons

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or, they spend mana fast enough that the accessory is still quite overpowered

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mistlestorm comes to mind

arctic wren
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Probably a nerf when using it with mana sickness is more realistic then?

sinful violet
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m, yeah

radiant meadow
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so like 1 health per every 10 mana spent but every 50 mana with mana sickness?

arctic wren
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Something like that, yes

shadow prism
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Cyclone Claymore
Fires wind slashes that explode into immense cyclones on death
Made from 1 storm ruler + 3 cores of cinder + 5 cosmilite bars at a Draedon’s forge

Fires high-velocity curved wind slashes that leave rainclouds in their wake (think spear of paeolith or north pole but with nimbus rod-esque rain). When they hit an enemy or block, the projectiles spawn modified versions of alluvion’s tornadoes that ignore i frames and shoot streams of water. These tornadoes persist for about 2 seconds before dissipating. The water streams and raincloud rain inflict temporal sadness for 2 seconds each, the tornado inflicts confused and whispering death for 3 seconds each and the sword itself inflicts armor crunch for 4 seconds.

actually decent post dog melee weapon

reef gorge
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i cant imagine that without a visual representation lol

arctic wren
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all I can think of is the playing dying on Yharon and the screen going crazy with giant tornadoes

reef gorge
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lel

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i accidentally put this in suggestions without discussing but any thoughts?

arctic wren
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starring your own post lul

reef gorge
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iM sORRY

shadow prism
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anyways, anyone have thoughts on the actual weapon?

arctic wren
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sounds pretty fun to use
though spamming out endless tornadoes could get a bit laggy for some people

sinful violet
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mm yeah, sounds like it'd be a bit heavy on the frames

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one effect at a time tbh

jolly mirage
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Am I the only one that finds it weird that Salamanders don't have an accessory that crafts into The Absorber like Giant Shellys and Crawdads do?

reef gorge
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no

jolly mirage
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I might try and think up a potential item to put in Suggestions

reef gorge
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u

lusty idol
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Salamander Hide Although farming that stuff for the Absorber can be annoying, I guess it could make sense to add something that the Salamander drops. The Salamander doesn't drop anything anyways.

lunar berry
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then there will be like 6 crafting for the absorber

lusty idol
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I know, I pointed that out. I just thought it'd be cool to have the Salamander have something. But I also just realized something. Since one of those items can be substituted, maybe the Salamander Hide can substitute for another item in one of the 2 crafting recipes.

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Like maybe the Giant Tortoise Shell

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@jolly mirage Instead of adding another item into the recipe, make it substitute another item within the recipe just like how the Giant Shell and Craw Carapace can be substituted for each other

jolly mirage
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Oh yeah, that's what I meant

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Since they're the other enemies in the Rare Cavern trio, I thought it would be kinda obvious that they'd be interchangeable

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I'll edit the suggestion though

lusty idol
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It said "Crafted into the Absorber". I thought that meant added in to the recipe, but I see what you mean.

jolly mirage
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I just meant to say that it's an ingredient for it

sleek wigeon
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tbf, the salamander drop isnt needed

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since your world is garunteed to have either shellies or crawdads

jolly mirage
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I recognize that, but it still feels odd that only two of the trio have those drops. Plus this'll also make it so that the Absorber isn't as hard to get in worlds that only have one of those two

neon panther
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I never thought those three were a “trio” tbh

jolly mirage
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I consider them a trio because any individual world will only have two of them

sleek wigeon
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Yup.

fervent zealot
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ew mix classes

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get your tasteless trash outta here

signal ibex
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Oh no..

fervent zealot
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better make those crystals shoot non piercing projectiles, buddy

signal ibex
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They don't pierce.

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:/

fervent zealot
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piercing damage hurts my spine

signal ibex
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Because that would be overly OP for its tier.

fervent zealot
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i mean the piercing damage would cuck all your other summons which is why i said that

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don't need another hote

strong monolith
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Exo gun suggestion:
XO-77:
Rapidly fires a bullet with an 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets (which don't pierce btw) that on hit with an enemy, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the nebula blaze attack) to home into the enemy from the corners of the screen, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving the debuff Elemental Mix for 5 seconds. If the bullet hits any blocks/tiles, bounces and splits into 3 Terra Bullets in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Razorblade Typhoon attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time. Attacks from the vortex will slightly heal the player and have a 5% chance to inflict Exo Freeze on the enemy (enemy restrictions from exo blade's freeze apply here). After 7 seconds, the vortex will explode, giving Marked for Death on all affected enemies in the explosion for 7 seconds.

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Thoughts?

strong monolith
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I would put Vanquisher Bullets instead of Terra Bullets but they don't exist yet slobbyjoy

sleek wigeon
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Summoning damage... +24%?

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seems a bit high

arctic wren
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given what it costs to get it and that it summons a few minions as well

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that is way too high

quiet abyss
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That recipe is rather costly...too costly SignusSweating

ruby cobalt
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What's this, an unbalanced suggestion that fucked any reasoning?

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Looks normal to me, you can star it.

arctic wren
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it's costly but everything needed to get it is obtainable rather early

quiet abyss
arctic wren
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assuming crystals are crystal shards here

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15 of all gemstones is annoying but wouldn't take too long
nothing else is hard to get

ruby cobalt
strong monolith
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The summoner danage increase should be nerfed by 20% tbh

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No

arctic wren
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and also... given all the +minion stuff we have already (I mean we got two new accessories for it recently in the eldritch and godly soul artefacts) and/or stuff that summons minions (waifu stuff)

strong monolith
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If it's a first time, they get pinged and asked to post here before in #suggestions-voting
If it's a repeat offense, then yea maybe

arctic wren
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I think it'd be more interesting to first nerf the damage to +10 or +15%, scrap the summons and give it some other summon related effect

ruby cobalt
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Not even if its the first time.

arctic wren
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Oh, and get rid of the extra 100 mana

strong monolith
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Ok look either the message to post in discussion first is pinged in both channels, or they just have to tell them

arctic wren
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totally unnecessary

strong monolith
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Nothing is ever 100% clear to everyone in this world

ruby cobalt
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Nothing ever is, but this can be clarified through reading rules.

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And one of them tells you to "read the pins because answers to your questions might've already been posted".

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Second pin of #suggestions-discussion tells you to run your suggestion through this channel first, for feedback reasons.

strong monolith
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I'd say it should be a pin in both channels, maybe edit the pinned rules in #suggestions-voting to include that

arctic wren
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I think it'd be best as the top pin in both channels

strong monolith
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I highly doubt that everyone checks the pins in a separate channel first

arctic wren
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hell, maybe even put it in #rules in the channel description

strong monolith
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Yeah. This channel I'd say would not get viewed as much as the actual suggestions channel, so the rule pinned here will most likely get overlooked

ruby cobalt
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doubt that everyone checks the pins in a separate channel
Well shit, too bad for them, they're violating a rule, even if there's no punishment for it.

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Not knowing doesn't exempt you from anything.

strong monolith
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We're saying things to make people know, not to enforce rules on people that don't know

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That's how toxicity in this server starts

arctic wren
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^
Rule won't do anything except catch people who probably wouldn't have done otherwise out if it isn't made obvious

ruby cobalt
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All efforts still die because of people not reading anyways.

strong monolith
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It isn't everyone's instinct at the start to even some to this channel unless they are directed properly with non obscure channels

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"Oh some people won't even look at them anyways so why make them obvious"

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Wtf

arctic wren
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Yes, some people won't read it. But others will, so it will still help with keeping the crap suggestions here instead of #suggestions-voting. (Or balanced/changed to be better first.)

ruby cobalt
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I've come to the conclusion that those who would read it won't post anything here.

strong monolith
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???

ruby cobalt
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Don't ask me how.

strong monolith
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That's actually a terrible way to think

ruby cobalt
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Sadly, it's pretty accurate to how I see things.

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You see which parts of discord are active?

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I mean, how many people?

strong monolith
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Does that even matter? There are always lurkers, especially in a server like this that has mod updates exclusively posted here (because mod browser eats pant)

ruby cobalt
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Oh yes, it does.

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Because among them will be people that actually read things, but never post.

strong monolith
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I honestly don't really see your point. It's probably because I'm a bit tired slobbyjoy

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Could you clarify?

ruby cobalt
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It's ok, I don't see it either, in fact I just lost it

worthy fiber
ruby cobalt
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The point was going to be that the actually intelligent masses are going to stay out, and omega brains will post their shit regardless.

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So in the long run pinning/replacing title message will do something, but it's unknown if that something will actually mean anything.

worthy fiber
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inb4 every calamity channel ends with "read_pins"

strong monolith
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Then there is a reason to monitor them, and to give less of a reason for the omega IQ brains to defend themselves
Maybe the channel could be called #suggestions-voting_read_pins

ruby cobalt
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Did it help them?

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Spoiler: no slobbyjoy

strong monolith
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"Nothing is working so why bother"

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That's a terrible way to think. You should try until it works for at least enough people

ruby cobalt
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Which is why I want a more radical solution, not the soft one.

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Because softie already failed.

strong monolith
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But seriously that's how toxicity starts unless we put a bunch of "softer" solutions in first

ruby cobalt
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I don't even take "toxicity" seriously, seen too many people being banned for being idiots and then whining "waah tAWxhEEC".

strong monolith
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The point I'm trying to make is to make the rules more obvious to people until it comes to the point that anyone who breaks it doesn't even know how to operate Discord fully.

ruby cobalt
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Alright, now I get you, that's a good point.

strong monolith
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Which is to put the rules/guidelines/guides in the main #suggestions-voting channel and probably also append the read_pins part

ruby cobalt
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We could nag certain people for that.

strong monolith
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@ everyone Henkhenk

ruby cobalt
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I'll talk to LompL later.

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@everyone

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It's disabled, so is @here.

strong monolith
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oh good slobbyjoy

arctic wren
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If one could change nicknames here I'd make "waah tAWxhEEC" my nickname
I feel putting it in #rules might help, but anyone who doesn't check pins probably wouldn't check the rules in much detail either slobbyjoy

ruby cobalt
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You actually want to change it?

arctic wren
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Well if it's a rule to at least try and discuss suggestions here first

ruby cobalt
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No, the name.

arctic wren
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Oh
Sure slobbyjoy

ruby cobalt
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@elder kestrel

strong monolith
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oh damn my suggestion is all the way up there I wonder if anyone has seen it slobbyjoy

ruby cobalt
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Do a relay, I'll be back in 30 minutes or so.

strong monolith
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o ok

elder kestrel
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?

arctic wren
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"I don't even take "toxicity" seriously, seen too many people being banned for being idiots and then whining 'waah tAWxhEEC'"
"If one could change nicknames here I'd make "waah tAWxhEEC" my nickname"

strong monolith
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Chipbeam wants his name changed to "waah tAWxhEEC" Henkhenk
anyways, this is offtopic CompleteFailure

elder kestrel
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Hm I see

strong monolith
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Time to reposti my gun since it got buried completely slobbyjoy

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Exo gun suggestion:
XO-77:
Rapidly fires a bullet with an 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets (which don't pierce btw) that on hit with an enemy, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the nebula blaze attack) to home into the enemy from the corners of the screen, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving the debuff Elemental Mix for 5 seconds. If the bullet hits any blocks/tiles, bounces and splits into 3 Terra Bullets in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Razorblade Typhoon attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time. Attacks from the vortex will slightly heal the player and have a 5% chance to inflict Exo Freeze on the enemy (enemy restrictions from exo blade's freeze apply here). After 7 seconds, the vortex will explode, giving Marked for Death on all affected enemies in the explosion for 7 seconds.

arctic wren
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you just made it even more powerful than it needs to be

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on top of 19% summon damage, the crystal summons that fire at things, and 100 extra mana now it needs to give an extra 2 minion slots?

strong monolith
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holy shit what poor timing for me to REPOST MY GUN HyperFailure

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The Expergiscere

The power of this artifact is immense...

A summon accessory that increases summoning damage by 4%, also 3 color changing crystals would spin around the player, rapidly shooting small color switching bolts at the enemy, and it also regerates 3 mana with each hit of a crystal attack, it also adds 1 minion slot.

Recipe: 30 crystal shards, 15 of all the gemstones, 3 of all cores except for calamity, 10 of all mechanical bosses souls, Summoner Emblem, Pygmy Necklace, 10 living shards.

signal ibex
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Damn you people are brutal.

arctic wren
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that's better provided the crystals can actually do damage

strong monolith
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It actually is incrediby powerful for not even post ML

arctic wren
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comparing it to statis' blessing, which you get around the same time
you trade 2 summon slots and a minor damage boost for the crystals

ruby cobalt
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Damn, we're brutal for pointing out flaws with blatantly broken shit.

signal ibex
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I realized what i said.

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I feel like a moron now.

strong monolith
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anyways, please I need a review for my gun before I post it in #suggestions-voting for a mega roast HyperFailure

signal ibex
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Your suggestion is better im just gonna remove mine

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In order to avoid the ROAST

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Oh right people can screenshot stuff.

arctic wren
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the point of putting suggestions here is to tweak them to be actually good first
I'd say tweak it a bit, make it a bit more unique and then repost

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We already have the eldritch/godly soul artefact, statis' blessing, statis' curse, statis' belt of curses giving slots
the waifu stuff amongst other things spawning minions directly
hell, as well as armour giving slots

why not go for something more unique? like how the first shadowflame which makes summons deal a light DoT
it's hardly a great accessory and gets absorbed into statis' curse but it's an example of something that changes summons in a way that doesn't just give them more damage or let you summon more of them

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spirit generator is another example of something like that
sadly both are too early game to be used for long

strong monolith
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Probably mix the two accessories he mentioned together, with a unique effect, which would also mean that the spirit generator can be used as an eventual material for the Statis Curse deepthonk

arctic wren
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also lmao river's suggestion
no offense but git gud instead of trying to get them to nerf the boss

muted swift
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a summoner accessory that made all your summons kind of behave like the stardust dragon, all the extra ones after the first would make it bigger instead with a bigger hitbox (or on its attacks) and do more damage 🤔

strong monolith
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Would be hard to code pain

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It is interesting tho

muted swift
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no doubt

strong monolith
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Anyways, I'd say suggestions to nerf superbosses (such as SCal) will not have any hope of going through unless it's some broken thing that needs to be fixed. In that case, it's for #bugs-read-pins

arctic wren
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that wasn't a suggestion to nerf scal
that was a suggestion to nerf clonelamitas

strong monolith
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oh what?

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lmao

arctic wren
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"breath"

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as in the fire breath

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like what phase 2 spazmatism uses

signal ibex
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The Expergiscere

The origins of this immensely powerful artifact is not yet known.....

This summoning accessory increases summon damage by 16%, also while having this accessory equipped, when your summons hit a NPC, a nova of elemental shards would come out of the summon and stick to the enemy for 2 seconds before each of them explodes in a high damaging color changing explosion, the cooldown is 1.5 seconds. There is also a 45% chance that your summons will inflict elemental mix lasting 3 seconds.

Recipe: 10 of all the gems, 30 crystal shards, 1 core of calamity, pygmy necklace, summoner emblem, 7 living shards, 5 unholy cores, 10 of the lunar fragments.

Reason: In order to have more summoner accessories, and as filler...

Only craftable at the ancient manipulator.

arctic wren
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make it so they shoot the shards on hit probably
idk how you'd make it work otherwise

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remove the splitting into the smaller piercing shards too imo
probably a bit much and the piercing spam would get in the way of dps immensely unless they do massive damage

muted swift
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or in a similar vein but the opposite, all summons summon twice as many with weakened dps and smaller minions 🤔

arctic wren
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Hmm

muted swift
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because i want twice as many chicken birds

arctic wren
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Crazy chickens

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I like the base idea, though

signal ibex
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Those rainbow roots are like vilethorn.