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Exactly
how would hitscan chloro bullets work? you just deal a constant stream of damage?
also certain guns like conclave would probably behave really oddly
Nah hitscan on chlophoryte would just not home
Also: instead of legendaries scaling with progression like they used to, make them get stat boosts after ML and doggo, kinda like how halibut gets buffed after wof and ml. This wouldn’t apply to community (already scales) and cosmic discharge (already post dog). This would make legendaries somewhat viable for a few more bosses without making 1 carry the whole game like they used to.
Just make legendaries not fucking horrible tbh
^
Like if it's 1/100 at least make it good
ichor arrows in vanilla also don’t get the velocity boost
if arrows have above a certain speed it doesn’t work
@ashen warren meme suggestion smh
@polar dock No boss suggestions, especially for that
Boss and meme suggest 😛
i don't think it counts as a meme but it's definitely not going to be accepted
that doesn't make it a meme
(it kinda does)
i mean it's whatever
the lorde has and always will be a meme
i just like the idea.....but if not maybe a new legendary from a boss like providence or maybe rebuff legendarys since they arent very good?
Don't worry, both of those have been suggested before, and delivered to the devs
ok
@grand patio please put your suggestions in one message
@grand patio put them in a single messag-
beat you to it
ok ok
that’s fine guys
smh
They’re not done by bot anymore
We move them manually
cob should know better smh
Jesus Christmas
@forest trellis i wouldnt recommend making boss suggestions for things that arent even released yet
also the boss progression is already set
Aren't boss suggestions forbidden?
Eh I'll star it
Doesn't really break any rules but it's pretty strange and cluttered...
I mean the rules say that that the mod doesn't accept them
Boss suggestion is like
"Add SANTANK-V100 boss which you summon with Omega Present crafted with Auric Ore and Naughty Present! The boss drops parachute bombs on intervals and has 2,000,000 HP..." etc etc
Giving suggestions about the Yharim progression isn't really breakin anything
Suggestions made to existing bosses are also okay, though unlikely to be accepted if its not something small
but draedon is not going to be stronger then Yharim smh
that suggestion makes me 
wait what
Also as long as I remember
are you sure?
Draedon is an artisan not a warrior
yharim is after draedon
isn't draedon the creator of the mechanical bosses?
he’s going to be a boss but he’s weaker then scal
the old lore involved a major theory where draedon was pulling the strings and actually allowed the player to rise to power to kill yharim as a power grab
old being the key word
Yay another Yharim summoning idea 
^
Drae do created the mech trio
- wall of text. was there even an attempt to make it formatted
- draedon is planned to be before scal. fabsol said this himself.
- does it really fit lore wise
that must be old or smth
But that's what he is
boi wtf it’s not that
An inventor
goozma is the only superboss in there, and the order is wrong
^
not going to be
she was
it won’t be in the future
Dude
It’s going to be changed
the order is
yharon to draedon to scal to yharim
scal won’t be a superbiss
Yes, we do.
i can't see draedon becoming a boss
yep p much
What does FUTURE means to you?
Really fuckin' old. Order is gonna be Yharon>Draedon>Scal>Yharim. Goozma is gonna be a superboss along with another one.
^
presumably xeroc or bigas or andromeda
probably not xeroc
All we know about the other superboss is that apparently it is after Goozma, blood moon based, and inspired by Hollow Knight
andromeda is not confirmed
it’s not confirmed but it’s possible
Scal will in the future (and this hurts me a lot) no longer be a super boss
i mean these are wild guesses so
low chance but possible
scal won’t be a superboss in the future
I mean, if scal isn't going to be a super boss anymore, wouldn't that mean she has some relevance to the story?
SCal is getting nerfed when she gets downgraded. Probably just a hitcap removal
would have, rather
^
yes she’s gonna become a progression boss
Scal would be too easy if hitcap was removed =P
doesn’t matter
Scal was alway relevant to the story
yeah that’s the poin
Ahem.
what we’re trying to say is your suggestion doesn’t make sense lore wise
Talk about suggestions or take it to #calamity-mod-talk , please.
Oh god a mod
it could have potential if modified but i can’t see it happening rn
Everyone run
@trim stratus this is probably a case of "if you sprite it, drew will add it"
Okay, can you do it? 
we’re discussing it atm
Okay, thanks.
My reason behind it is that there are such a few amount of repeaters, & they basically act the same as bows.
MEMES
I beg your pardon
Seems pretty cool, I guess I'll give it a star! (I said no to the guy that said memes.)
Discussion is fading out of relevancy for this area, think we should stop now.
Agree
Nah for the draedon suggestion, draedon is a mechanics nerd but yharim is good at like everything combat related so it definitely makes sense that he's farther along than draedon
meeeemes
yo can you not
meme
stop
@ashen warren time to call a mod
he's just saying memes for no reason
no, this dude is just repeatedly saying "memes" over and over and since he wont listen to me i think he needs a mod's authority
@polar dock hey can you not be annoying
:{

No
r/madlads
Okay, i think its time to abandon this chat until another suggestion is made, for the sake of being on topic
i’m pretty sure they did because you posted that 40 mins after they stopped chatting
i know it's late but what don't people like about my Dread Blizzard suggestion
The fact that you keep whining about it in this channel
multi-class is hard to spec builds for
and there's no need for another melee or magic weapon post dog
stupid question i know but what exactly do you mean by "spec builds"
and it's darksun frags
post yharon
there's plenty of choices for melee but not too many for mage
and i guess it's my fault that i didn't specify but i was actually thinking of making it just magic, without melee
because it doesn't really work as intended/isn't balanced if it has a melee form that doesn't consume mana
A weapon like the one in the suggestion would really only work around late hardmode if you added on block-piercing
and mage is perfectly fine post phase1 dragoo
im sorry, what do you mean "on-block piercing"
Probably goes through blocks
I was literally about to suggest the despawn orbs thing
I was thinking exactly that though, how is this not a thing already
Like “oh she’s killed” “no there’s giant orb things chasing you”
the block phasing is just for convinience
the reaper is a big projectile and it would suck if it dissapeared too early before it hit something on the ground or something like that
Reaper Steroids
Causes ungodly pain, but grants immense increases to movement speed, damage and critical strike chance
Masochism, son
Made from 1 empty bottle + 1 reaper tooth + 1 diamond at an ancient manipulator
Grants a buff called Sliced (Your insides are being lacerated)
This buff causes you to take 20% more damage from all sources, inflicts an effect similar to darkness and every second has a 5% chance to apply nebula floater’s blackout effect for 10 frames.
However, it grants 10% increased damage and 10% increased crit chance (these bypass the rev+ cap) and 20% increased movement speed
The whole sliced thing and the recipe are in reference to reaper tooth’s tooltip, “strong enough to cut diamonds”, so you’re essentially just consuming a bunch of diamond shards and a reaper tooth from a glass bottle.
bone hurting juice
dont bother
joost already did it
smh i really dont get how you always get more stars than me
would it be too far out to make some sort of
nebula-floater/collosal squid crossover paint gun upgrade
ink
still too vague
recipes and items follow formulas, you can’t just find 3 things that share something and combine them
an ink gun thing would be fine tho
what's wrong with combining 3 similar items?
different tiers
different environments
also squids and floaters don’t even drop materials
so how do you combine a weapon with 2 enemies without drops
you could use a material around the same level as an alternate
yeah but then it loses all correlation
true
i was thinking something like Paint Gun, Nebula Frags, Tenebris, and Ruinous Souls
tenebris + lumenyl + depth cells + paint gun + black ink makes sense, ruinous souls are reserved for bloodflare and nebula frags just aren’t relevant
ew no not black ink
if it’s an ink cannon it makes sense
i never use items like blocks or accessories or dyes and other things to make weapons
ok
also, speed blaster exists and there usually aren’t 2 different upgrades to the same weapon (besides phoenix blaster)
and nano purge
laser machinegun
more mods should have alt paths for weapons tbh
well it gives you something different to try with another playthrough
and I just think that these basic upgrades or Exo-weapons are something everyone's thought of before
true
if possible, it helps to dig around on the wiki and find weapons without upgrades, just makes it seem a little more realistic
though using a weapon that already has one is fine too
haha i do that all the time
hey you should suggest some sort of bomb throwing weapon
ballistic potion bomb, brackish flask, duststorm in a bottle, the list goes on
@shadow prism you forgot purge guzzler
it’s a boss drop therefore not a mat
there aren’t many boss drop weapons with upgrades
holy collider? daemon’s flame? excelsus? etc
ok
whats the point of them sticking to enemies
mostly for the visual effect
it's light
the swarmer, lazhar, t1000 and effervescence are ALL upgraded boss drops
yeah
😏
yeah but they’re upgraded boss drops

use purge guzzler
find one calamity boss whose drop has an upgrade
so why can't this be an upgraded boss drop
AH YES
That was the distinction I was about to nail down
well
I was gonna say
Post ML boss drop upgrade
also the projectiles now ignore i frames meaning the sticking effect is really stronk now
too strong i say
nerfed it from 15 > 7 frames of sticking
like legit just don't worry about the numbers
those are wands
you done even need to include one of the weapons
not magic guns
just make it a chance
also hello from the super metroid hacking server oz
every 3 shots fires one of the special attacks
that’s like putting a rocket launcher in photoviscerator’s recipe
^^
unless this thing
also shoots exploding profaned bees
that shoot lasers
which I guess is totally reasonable
all exo weapons are made from weapons of one type, this isn’t an exception (also swarmer’s effects would break radiance pretty bad)
also where is aether's whisper
or black anuarian
^
or plasma rifle
magna cannon has an upgrade already
which is dumb but still here
plasma is in it
plasma rifle is in there
that’s a ranged weapon
this is magic guns only, if it’s not classed as one it ain’t going in the recipe
Christ could you imagine firing an alpha ray of bees
-> Weapon name Radiance
-> "Remember...light..."
...Gee wonder what this one references 
Also don't limit ya self like that man
I’m not limiting myself, I’m just basing it off the other exo recipes
I try to keep my recipes as true to existing calamity stuff as I can
exo weapons already don't inherit every random effect
this doesn’t inherit quite a few things
exo weapons are dumb tbh
photoviscerator doesn't do god slayer inferno
heavenly gale doesn't fucking glitch out like mad
( astreal defeat )
exoblade doesn't shoot 3 billion different sword beams
you get the point
don't feel limited by some sort of exo rigidity
^^^
radiance completely ignores plasma rifle, lazhar and swarmer (as in it doesn’t inherit effects)
@humble island Already somewhat in effect
The test versions are sent to testers, which are those with "cool dudes" role
yeah that's how that works already
calamity boss drop with upgrade: cosmic discharge
yes it's the biggest meme
it’s a legendary and apoth doesn’t count
it’s made from an exo weapon and 3 of the same sword
Yes I'm aware I'm just pointing it out!
ok
that efferescence effect kinda sucks too
effervescence actually just sucks
it would be broken af if it just spawned a crapton of bubbles that shot holy lasers or whatever
not saying it has to do that
effervescence is basically just there because it’s a magic gun
Exo weapons dont even include all the loose weapons of their class
there’s a few left out here
if it's going to have an effect as lame as that dont bother including it
alright, I’ll take out effervesence, swarmer and lazhar
also
electro
you didnt add too too much new stuff with all these combined weapons
the orbs stick to the boss and damage it every frame
it's easy to balance something with a small chance of firerate
assuming it's a boss
the lasers annihilate any supports
if it had as many bubbles as effervescence it would just be too much
how about making a mega bubble that expands and freezes, and makes a flash-freeze explosion at it's climax or something
sticks to enemies too
or "exosplosion"
also
add some more original effects
make some thing that "crystallizes" enemies or some random chance beam
that fractures into 6 beams when it pierces an enemy
if it more original it would fire bouncing hitscan orbs that left an instantly appearing trail of dust, like shadowbeam, that in turn spawned exo bubbles that exploded on enemy contact and summoned a barrage of holy flames
but that’d be way too complicated to code/implement
the trail is the mines
and the mines do what
the mines are the exo bubbles
actually the above thing was poorly thought out anyways
I’m gonna leave it the way it is in #suggestions-voting for now
completely separate idea:
Reaper Steroids
Causes ungodly pain, but grants immense increases to movement speed, damage and critical strike chance
Masochism, son
Made from 1 empty bottle + [1 reaper tooth + 1 diamond] or [40 blood orbs] at an ancient manipulator (or alchemy table for the blood orb version)
Grants a buff called Sliced (Your insides are being lacerated) for 30 minutes
This buff causes you to take 20% more damage from all sources, inflicts an effect similar to the darkness debuff and every second has a 5% chance to apply nebula floater’s blackout effect for 10 frames.
However, it grants 10% increased damage and 10% increased crit chance (these bypass the rev+ cap) and 20% increased movement speed.
The whole sliced thing and the recipe are in reference to reaper tooth’s tooltip, “strong enough to cut diamonds”, so you’re essentially just consuming a bunch of diamond shards and a reaper tooth from a glass bottle.
brb imma take a shower
Ouch
one other suggestion:
Reaper Fist or Reaper Claws
Swole arm from a swole shark or Sharp edges, handle with care
Made from 5 reaper teeth + 15 lumenyl + 10 depth cells + 5 tenebris + [1 flairon] or [1 mantis claws] at an ancient manipulator
[(Flail) Fires a reaper fist like KO cannon that shoots out homing reaper spikes, the fist itself ignores i frames. Deals absurd knockback.] or [Immensely powerful claws that ignore i frames and just obliterate whatever they’re hitting but have abysmal range]
You always have such creative ideas. (:
agreed
you know #general-talk is a thing
and I don't think #multiplayer-looking-to-play is restricted to Terraria
Ew no stop please
ok, you have to add more detail than just say "add an exo gun"
also err no low quality suggestions like “add an exo-gun,” be specific
@foggy shard Yeah, #general-talk
Bad suggestion
"add an exo-gun" there are like 20 different suggestions for an exo-gun that actually have mechanics typed out
thanks
that’s still not a good sugggestion
describe the abilities of the bullets, describe how big the hit boxes would actually be, how to craft it, format it, etc.
Also put it all into one message
It would be hard for someone to pieve together what you're saying if it's in different messages 
yeah that too.
And the star system
Put it all in one message
You're getting closer, now just put all that in one suggestion
sees Teragho0ost
OH THAT'S WHY I HAVEN'T SEEN TERAGAT IN AGES
I bet $10 he will
@tepid wadi Meta, can you please help?
Not really. I have job interview in a second .-.
O shit, gl on that.
also @foggy shard 1/3 of a razor blade typhoon is way too big for a spread of 10 bullets, especially one with “massive damage”
and how would the whole “bullet from the sky” thing work?
like conclave crossfire
probably not and none ignore iframes so I see that piercing is gonna be an issue
compiling into 1 message is a good thing to do but its not super important anymore
since we manually put suggestions in the dev server now
Doesn't mean they shouldn't 🤔
doesn't mean they shouldn't but we don't have to force them to
Did suggestion bot stop working or did he not work at all
It kind of died due to discord eating many pants with discord.py
So until that outdated junk gets its fill of updates - bot's a no-no
I see
Alright, now that can be qualified as a low-effort suggestion and warrants a warn 
literally everyone starts typing as soon as he posts a new suggestion
It's not even a new suggestion.
@foggy shard delete the previous suggestions, name could use some work, alpha ray definitely shouldn’t be there (why not isn’t a good reason)
The only thing I like about that suggestion is the Phil Swift 
also, should the exo bullets not be differently colored to differentiate the different abilities?
just my thoughts since that’s what the heavenly gale does.
Effervescence did the damage type change, but it's still not a reason for alpha ray.
also: “one a beam”
do you mean like an alpha ray beam? be more specific.
I like how he didn't even bother to make up a name for it
“why i want it: i’m upset there isn’t an exo gun”
My idea of an exo gun:
Astraclasm: Rapidly fires a bullet at a time with a 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets that infinitely pierce enemies and if an enemy is hit, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the lunar flare attack) to fire into the enemy, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving a range of debuffs. If the bullet hits the ground, bounces once and splits into 3-4 "Vanquisher Bullets" in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Nebula Arcanum attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time.
As an extension: 
Vanquisher bullets: Pierce infinitely and if it hits an enemy, will deal shattering damage similar to the Crystal bullets or Terra Bullets. Would probably use the same materials as Vanquisher arrows.
Then again, it's just my thoughts 
Also I ain't posting this into suggestions since it is a hot topic
name
Oh god
It means death
Stellar striker but it's a gun
@worthy raptor bby come over for a second
o ok
We have a meem that needs to be looked over by your majestic eyes.
Shit, he deleted the othergaemz channel suggestion, that would've been cherry on top
Wow bringing out the big boys
The lil boy mode didn't work.
yeah p much 
Job Interview
that gun seems like a massive meme ngl
SMH your job is supposed to modding
It was even more of a meme before when it was "add exo gun idk"
oh but now it's just "op gun"
Reason: "I'm upset"
“i don’t know a name sorry”
EXO GUN -> dissolution -> dude idk
it's better than "EXO GUN" at least
Also asking for GD help in suggestions smh
yeah 
nevermind that, I'm coming up with a suggestion much better.
oh boy, can't wait
Is this adir all over again?
guys he’s clearly making god tier fogbound level suggestions
oh my GOD THINK OF THE ENTIRE SUGGESTION AND POST IT IN ONE MESSAGE
Or Spidey, remember that guy
JUST THE TITLE ISNT ENOUGH
Spidey was a decent guy until he dared to touch #suggestions-voting
anyways, any thoughts on my idea of the gun? 
I'd say it's not some super Rube Goldberg machine but it's still an intricate gun
Also Vanquisher bullets 
the hella flares things is just stellar striker but it’s a gun
and infinite piercing too
crabbar intensifies


exo grenade when smh
Exo slime mount when
smh I'm not gonna put an entire shopping list 
ONE SUGGESTION PER MESSAGE PLEASE
Bounching on an enemy head instantly flattens them Mario style
Exo pet
what about my new suggestion
Alright
exo character
What about my new suggestion though
Exo potion: Requires every single potion and a Tuna at Draedon's Forge with Yharon Soul Fragments, Birb Pheromones and Cosmolite Bars
Every buff possible for 30 minutes

exo dabbing
No bad
you mean "not bad" ecksdee
But seriously I don't think anyone would use that anyways 
oh okay
exo yeeting
exo wings
Regarding the arrow suggestion, the upgrade is actually worse than its preupgrade
The fact that it pierces mean that it can only hit 6 times per second no matter how many barrages of phantoplasm arrows you're actually firing at the enemy, while the preupgrade arrows will all hit
are there any post ML bullets other then Holy Fire bullets? 
o
Phantoplasm homing bullets
Don't Vanquisher arrows anyways home in?
I want to try making the bullet variant have a different effect, just like Luminite arrows and bullets
That's true
Im gonna think of a counterpart to Holy Fire Bullets that's upgraded from one of the other vanilla bullets
Anyways with how fast most guns are at that stage, it wouldnt be necessary for a homing bullet
But I think it would help make yjaron tier guns not horrible
exactly how many yharon tier guns are there?
like dragon's breath, minigun, sdfmg, halibut?
Halibut, sdfmg, and minigun
Yeah
But they all suck and I think it's because the arrow choices are so much better
@foggy shard Also...
"Maybe a short debuff. Like "Possessed" maybe?"
This is not how you make a suggestion
You can't just say "Hey this thing has debuff but I don't know what the debuff will do and what it'll be called" and expect the devs to be able to know what you want
That sentence gives the devs nothing to go by, and they won't have any idea as to what exactly do you want the debuff to be
Please, elaborate more on your suggestions
ok
Like bloodflare arrows have fantastic survivability, and vanquisher has great damage
So maybe Spectral Bullets (Phantoplasm and Ectoplasm combined into a bullet) that homes in and does various dungeon based debuffs?
dungeon based debuffs? like broken armor and on fire?
When I mean dungeon based, I mean the debuffs that each and every possible dungeon enemy and boss gives to you when they attack you
I don't understand
I added to my suggestion
well, the only debuffs I remember enemies give you are broken armor, on fire, bleeding, darkness, and whatever skeletron does
and cursed
Broken Armor, Cursed, Bleeding, Darkness.
a damn those are much worse on a player 
the only one that's remotely useful in combat is broken armor
nvm 
Exp bullet but they apply every single debuff with 100x the strength but deal no damage
So is bleeding, but mobs don't really regen

Maybe the debuff on the enemy will be called "Wrath of skeletron"
Nah
providence and moon lord regen, but I doubt it affects them
Maybe the Spectral bullets can do a debuff that's the opposite of the Grax Buff 
!wiki grax buff
https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Grax
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page grax buff for a direct link or !wiki search grax buff for a list of all hits.
Increases defense by 30, damage reduction by 5%, melee speed by 5%, melee damage by 10%, and melee critical strike chance by 10%.
That would be a great debuff
I'm not trying to steal anything you guys are discussing but if I end up doing I apologize 
I'm slow at typing 
Also: "one homing, one massive damage, one piercing, one bouncy, one fast, one from the sky, one splitting, one a beam, one giving debuffs, and one with a vanquisher arrow like effect."
That's by far one of the most random combination of effects I've ever seen
To me, it seems like you made all bullets have different effects just...for the sake of variety
And while variety is always nice, too many varieties are bad.
I copyright and trademark all my messages Hyperin 
ok, but now I think that exo gun is stupid
Quality over quantity messages
I've posted messages telling someone about "Quality over Quantity" so many times I've gotten used to it 
...And also messages telling someone to elaborate more
Oh damn, -15% DR
That's big boy
Me likey 👍
Not too much, not too small.
electrified 0.o mobs never stop
Ichor and cursed flames are your only options at reducing damage.
MfD isn't a thing
The debuff lasts 2.5 seconds, you fucking serious
god fucking dammit i was gonna suggest a reaper-themed bullet but then they're both post-polter 
and don't you mean increasing dmg?
or i guess might as well
I want to make my own mod MUCH bigger than calamity, so maybe I can add ghost arrows to that.
a mod bigger than calamity?
Dude Calamity has like 1000+ items 
almost dies laughing
Good Luck 
If anything I'd decrease damage on eidolic bullets, because 30 now seems excessive with electrified dealing like 16 DoT.
Not really, but I bet I'll learn. I have massive ideas! Of a lore, special bossfights, extended map, joke things, etc.
maybe instead of electrified, frostburn or something?
Electrified's there to fit with eidolists' theme, since they fire off lightning orbs.
I bet I learn is not the greatest start
Don't make a tremor
no
similarely: I'm having trouble on expert so I'm not even gonna attempt Death yet
It'll have special bosses, it's theme will be on nights/terra/beyond weapons.
also nights/terra/beyond bosses!
This is getting off-topic
yeah but terra bullets are crystal bullet upgrades
the homing ones are clorophyte
I'm basing it off vanquisher arrows
gtg now laptop is dying
Which is where the homing comes from
Should I even post my Vanquisher bullet suggestion? 
I guess you could say since everyone's bulletstorming these suggestions, you might as well 
Dear god, where is the arrow suggestion
I see that the last 3 suggestions are bullets and 1 arrow suggestion before that.
Yeah lol
Where are the rocket suggestions?
MIND BOOLETS
Like what part of hm
pretty much all of hm throwing sucks tbh
Late HM, it pretty much sucks.
early-hm isnt that good either
Early doesn't suck too much because Lionfish for cryo, Ice Stars for everything else, Brimblade once you can get it.
So your talking like post golem
But it still is a massive PITA to deal with.
Ye, post-golem your options are what, paladin's hammer and brackish flask?
Good fucking options, if you ask me.
and that one boomerang thing
yeah, late hardmode is pretty much brackish flask, ataxia thingy, ballistic poison bomb, and paladin's hammer
oh and possessed hatchet
Could be like a golem drip
I don't think calamity has a recipe for transferring hatchet into throwing.
Or maybe Leviathan since his drops are all bad
oh
Calamity has the true paladin's hammer throwing variant though
Fargo have thrower hatchet variant
It's practically your only option.
You could try a possessed hatchet upgrade
Like throwing multiple at a time like the disk upgardes but they could home like the hatchet
I was about to suggest an exo boomerang with possessed hatchet upgrade and true paladin's but then I realized there already was one.
Not like a scythe train with like 15 at once
Might've thought of something like Lionfish.
Basically this:
Haunted Axe
Upgraded Possessed Hatchet. Upon contact sticks to enemies and forces them to bleed. Also homes, like it's predecessor.
Multiple sticks like lion fish and not like piranha gun right
And homing like the hatchet?
I was browsing through suggestions and theres already at least 3 exo related suggestions above 50 stars
2 of them moved to dev server
More news at 11
Well, naturally it homes.
...Take 20% more damage, but gives 10% damage and crit that bypass rev+ cap
This...this is literally "Dimensional Soul Artifact Potion"
And obtainable pre-DoG as well...
I'm...not entirely sure how to feel about this
but that's a lot of incoming damage, strong for nohitters tho
Especially considering that this thing can stacks with the actual Dimensional Soul Artifact for whopping 25% damage and crit that bypass rev+ cap, at the cost of receiving 45% more damage
That's...way too much.
Might as well make the rev+ cap 110% with those 2 equipped
And yes, looking from a nohitter's standpoint this thing is amazing, but ya gotta think about general balance as well
Personally I think this is a bit too extreme
But maybe I'm just being overly cautious about balance
I'll star it
nerfed it, it’s now 5% damage and crit chance
5% for both seems too low, mostly because you can craft Yharim's Stimulants before Reaper Sharks even start dropping Reaper Teeth. Yharim's Stimulants provide 10% dmg, 5% crit, and a bunch of other benefits while not even having a downside other than a somewhat expensive recipe.
TL;DR, it just seems like a worse Yharim's Stimulants even though it's locked behind Polterghast
Oh
OK, I guess it's fine. If it can bypass the Rev soft cap, then it's probably better than Yharim's Stims in Rev+
It would still be weaksauce in Normal and Expert though
Ancient Manipulator
"(or alchemy table for the blood orb version)"
yeah yeah, I'm dumb
changed the blood orb version so it’s made at Draedon’s forge
That sounds like a good fix
It was certainly weird that the base recipe was post-Polterghast but the Blood Orb version could be made in Pre-Hardmode
You could also change the recipe kind of like how revivify pots need holy water instead of bottled water for their blood orb recipe
although, I don't know what would fit better
wait, I just realized the suggestion uses an empty bottle instead of bottled water 0.o 
Why need water when you could just chug diamond shards amirite
But yeah, that probably needs to be fixed
Today's #suggestions-voting are bullet memes I see 
Three separate but related suggestions:
- Elemental Claws
Has a low chance to fire an ethereal claw projection
Made from 1 mandible claws + 1 mycelial claws + 1 fetid baghnakhs + 1 shroomite digging claws + 5 luminite bars + 5 galactica singularities at an ancient manipulator
Each swing of the claws has a 1% chance to fire a large claw projection, similar to apoth, that stays in place and ignores i frames
- Reaper Claws
Sharp edges, handle with care
Made from 5 reaper teeth + 30 lumenyl + 10 depth cells + 10 tenebris + 1 mantis claws at an ancient manipulator
Each swing of the claws has a 1% chance to fire an incredibly fast, i-frame-ignoring version of valediction that deals melee damage
- Godmaster’s Claws
Sharp enough to tear a hole in spacetime itself
Made from 1 elemental claws + 1 reaper claws + 3 yharon soul fragments + 5 nightmare fuel + 5 endothermic energy + 5 darksun fragments + 25 auric ore at a Draedon’s forge
Exo claws that ignore i frames and have a 3% chance per swing to fire an incredibly fast homing rainbow scythe
thoughts?
they swing every 3 frames or so
Whoops fuck



Tbh I would say that RS is too hard to have a 0.5 chance to drop anything
@orchid hatch the browser told fab to eat pant
Why aren't there a terra tier claw tho
Mod browser eat pant tbh
when fab attempted to upload it he couldn't
I know
so he eat pant 

there aren’t enough claws to justify a terra tier
Make Cosmilite claws
Who is jopo
And make yharon ones 
Ataxia claw too
Jopo's the tModLoader big boy
was going to, but then there’s too many items in 1 post
@ashen warren tml dev and browser maintainer
Jopojelly?
Ok
Ah, was wondering why Jopo sounds familiar
should I post the claws thing as is or split it into 3 separate but consecutive posts
Keep it as one
k
Keep it as one
Suggestions that are related to each other can be posted in one post
The "Don't put more than one thing in your suggestions" is for stuffs that aren't related to each other much at all
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I think the devs could put more warframe guns as endgame items
Personally I think if ever using references taking more than 2-3 from single game is pretty bad style
though currently there is only 1 wf gun but eh
And a shitton of MGR references

@tired haven I do too but i want to use a vectis prime to one shot some early game bosses
use overclocked stellar striker to oneshot postML bosses
It isn't that cool but thanks for the advice
buff halibut cannon after scal so it’s viable for boss rush 
no stop
buff halibut after yharon so it (and by extension ranger) is viable for scal then 
halibut is already viable for SCal though smh
also why are buff the halibut memes still a thing
What's the halibut cannon
Idiots balance each other out
Its actually easy to notice @stoic narwhal
If things instakill you is armaggedon
If your hp is halfed is defiled rune
the QoL changes make sense
you gotta keep in mind most people in this server and outside too have the IQ of a rock
You can just use the item again to check if its activated or not
But as bidoof said: some people just dont think about that
An auric lance
which we surprisingly don't have
i know elemental lance is good but it's not the same tier
exoblade is all you need
exoblade is trash
ok
TBH ark of the cosmos is better
Aww, the effects of that spear could be more interesting than that
This is an EXO weapon
well i can't think of anything off the top of my head, so i looked up the other effects
holy flames instead of exo freeze
@vivid finch put your suggestion in one message
(if that was your whole suggestion, you're gonna have to elaborate more than that)
any minimod
only problem is that vivid clarity might need a resprite cause it already looks like a spear
cob
And I'm thinking the spear could have something to do with summoning images of the spear upon hitting enemies, which fly around and deal damage
Also not the most original effect, but it's better than just some homing projectiles
Hell, you could have both
I was thinking more like Elemental Lance
@buoyant robin nice minimod btw
sorry 
i mean how they go up and down
toby
Also I'm not a mod and I say that stuff all the time 
(What's Desgold doin, by the way? Did somebody delete his suggestion again hastily?
Because it was a complete one this time)
Odd
@hollow shell doesn't stop me from saying it 
Profaned Soul Artifact
Balance
Made with 5 Cinderplate + 10 Divine Geode + 10 Unholy Essence + 15 Exodium Cluster
All damage inflicts Abyssal Flames and Holy Flames debuffs
Losing Mana will restore a small amount of health
Losing Health will restore mana
Health gain rate would be perhaps 1 hp per 5 mana? I want it to be useful without being utterly overpowered.
I imagine the mana gain for getting damaged will basically work like the Magic Cuffs.
Healing rate would be significantly nerfed while using Yharim's Crystal or Last Prism so you don't have full heath every few seconds from using them.
I wanted something that embodies 'balance', since Providence is a neutral goddess and a balance of light and dark. So why not equivalent exchange?
any comments?
mmm
still looks like it could be abused slightly
mana flower and potions are a thing, and the crystal/prism weapons aren't the only which chew through mana
maybe make it so the health gain from losing mana doesnt happen when mana sickness is on
?
then the accessory just seems useless
yeah
health based off of using something beneficial to you would be hard to balance
🤔
What other weapons chew through mana a lot?
or could just have the healing be reduced but not stop entirely with mana sickness
most post ML weapons
or, they spend mana fast enough that the accessory is still quite overpowered
mistlestorm comes to mind
Probably a nerf when using it with mana sickness is more realistic then?
m, yeah
so like 1 health per every 10 mana spent but every 50 mana with mana sickness?
Something like that, yes
Cyclone Claymore
Fires wind slashes that explode into immense cyclones on death
Made from 1 storm ruler + 3 cores of cinder + 5 cosmilite bars at a Draedon’s forge
Fires high-velocity curved wind slashes that leave rainclouds in their wake (think spear of paeolith or north pole but with nimbus rod-esque rain). When they hit an enemy or block, the projectiles spawn modified versions of alluvion’s tornadoes that ignore i frames and shoot streams of water. These tornadoes persist for about 2 seconds before dissipating. The water streams and raincloud rain inflict temporal sadness for 2 seconds each, the tornado inflicts confused and whispering death for 3 seconds each and the sword itself inflicts armor crunch for 4 seconds.
actually decent post dog melee weapon
i cant imagine that without a visual representation lol
all I can think of is the playing dying on Yharon and the screen going crazy with giant tornadoes
starring your own post 
iM sORRY
godawful diagram of cyclone claymore
anyways, anyone have thoughts on the actual weapon?
sounds pretty fun to use
though spamming out endless tornadoes could get a bit laggy for some people
Am I the only one that finds it weird that Salamanders don't have an accessory that crafts into The Absorber like Giant Shellys and Crawdads do?
no
I might try and think up a potential item to put in Suggestions
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Salamander Hide Although farming that stuff for the Absorber can be annoying, I guess it could make sense to add something that the Salamander drops. The Salamander doesn't drop anything anyways.
then there will be like 6 crafting for the absorber
I know, I pointed that out. I just thought it'd be cool to have the Salamander have something. But I also just realized something. Since one of those items can be substituted, maybe the Salamander Hide can substitute for another item in one of the 2 crafting recipes.
Like maybe the Giant Tortoise Shell
@jolly mirage Instead of adding another item into the recipe, make it substitute another item within the recipe just like how the Giant Shell and Craw Carapace can be substituted for each other
Oh yeah, that's what I meant
Since they're the other enemies in the Rare Cavern trio, I thought it would be kinda obvious that they'd be interchangeable
I'll edit the suggestion though
It said "Crafted into the Absorber". I thought that meant added in to the recipe, but I see what you mean.
I just meant to say that it's an ingredient for it
tbf, the salamander drop isnt needed
since your world is garunteed to have either shellies or crawdads
I recognize that, but it still feels odd that only two of the trio have those drops. Plus this'll also make it so that the Absorber isn't as hard to get in worlds that only have one of those two
I never thought those three were a “trio” tbh
I consider them a trio because any individual world will only have two of them
Yup.
Oh no..
better make those crystals shoot non piercing projectiles, buddy
piercing damage hurts my spine
Because that would be overly OP for its tier.
i mean the piercing damage would cuck all your other summons which is why i said that
don't need another hote
Exo gun suggestion:
XO-77:
Rapidly fires a bullet with an 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets (which don't pierce btw) that on hit with an enemy, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the nebula blaze attack) to home into the enemy from the corners of the screen, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving the debuff Elemental Mix for 5 seconds. If the bullet hits any blocks/tiles, bounces and splits into 3 Terra Bullets in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Razorblade Typhoon attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time. Attacks from the vortex will slightly heal the player and have a 5% chance to inflict Exo Freeze on the enemy (enemy restrictions from exo blade's freeze apply here). After 7 seconds, the vortex will explode, giving Marked for Death on all affected enemies in the explosion for 7 seconds.
Thoughts?
I would put Vanquisher Bullets instead of Terra Bullets but they don't exist yet 
given what it costs to get it and that it summons a few minions as well
that is way too high
That recipe is rather costly...too costly 
What's this, an unbalanced suggestion that fucked any reasoning?
Looks normal to me, you can star it.
it's costly but everything needed to get it is obtainable rather early

assuming crystals are crystal shards here
15 of all gemstones is annoying but wouldn't take too long
nothing else is hard to get
We should just instawarn any retat red suggestion that gets posted in #suggestions-voting
and also... given all the +minion stuff we have already (I mean we got two new accessories for it recently in the eldritch and godly soul artefacts) and/or stuff that summons minions (waifu stuff)
If it's a first time, they get pinged and asked to post here before in #suggestions-voting
If it's a repeat offense, then yea maybe
I think it'd be more interesting to first nerf the damage to +10 or +15%, scrap the summons and give it some other summon related effect
Oh, and get rid of the extra 100 mana
Ok look either the message to post in discussion first is pinged in both channels, or they just have to tell them
totally unnecessary
Nothing is ever 100% clear to everyone in this world
Nothing ever is, but this can be clarified through reading rules.
And one of them tells you to "read the pins because answers to your questions might've already been posted".
Second pin of #suggestions-discussion tells you to run your suggestion through this channel first, for feedback reasons.
I'd say it should be a pin in both channels, maybe edit the pinned rules in #suggestions-voting to include that
I think it'd be best as the top pin in both channels
I highly doubt that everyone checks the pins in a separate channel first
that way the first thing they see is "post your suggestions in #suggestions-discussion first"
hell, maybe even put it in #rules in the channel description
Yeah. This channel I'd say would not get viewed as much as the actual suggestions channel, so the rule pinned here will most likely get overlooked
doubt that everyone checks the pins in a separate channel
Well shit, too bad for them, they're violating a rule, even if there's no punishment for it.
Not knowing doesn't exempt you from anything.
We're saying things to make people know, not to enforce rules on people that don't know
That's how toxicity in this server starts
^
Rule won't do anything except catch people who probably wouldn't have done otherwise out if it isn't made obvious
the pin here is a good start but people are naturally gonna check #suggestions-voting first
All efforts still die because of people not reading anyways.
It isn't everyone's instinct at the start to even some to this channel unless they are directed properly with non obscure channels
"Oh some people won't even look at them anyways so why make them obvious"
Wtf
Yes, some people won't read it. But others will, so it will still help with keeping the crap suggestions here instead of #suggestions-voting. (Or balanced/changed to be better first.)
I've come to the conclusion that those who would read it won't post anything here.
???
Don't ask me how.
That's actually a terrible way to think
Sadly, it's pretty accurate to how I see things.
You see which parts of discord are active?
I mean, how many people?
Does that even matter? There are always lurkers, especially in a server like this that has mod updates exclusively posted here (because mod browser eats pant)
Oh yes, it does.
Because among them will be people that actually read things, but never post.
And now look at #suggestions-voting demographic.
I honestly don't really see your point. It's probably because I'm a bit tired 
Could you clarify?
It's ok, I don't see it either, in fact I just lost it

The point was going to be that the actually intelligent masses are going to stay out, and omega brains will post their shit regardless.
So in the long run pinning/replacing title message will do something, but it's unknown if that something will actually mean anything.
inb4 every calamity channel ends with "read_pins"
Then there is a reason to monitor them, and to give less of a reason for the omega IQ brains to defend themselves
Maybe the channel could be called #suggestions-voting_read_pins

"Nothing is working so why bother"
That's a terrible way to think. You should try until it works for at least enough people
Which is why I want a more radical solution, not the soft one.
Because softie already failed.
#help-advice-read-pins and #bugs-read-pins were testing grounds.
But seriously that's how toxicity starts unless we put a bunch of "softer" solutions in first
I don't even take "toxicity" seriously, seen too many people being banned for being idiots and then whining "waah tAWxhEEC".
The point I'm trying to make is to make the rules more obvious to people until it comes to the point that anyone who breaks it doesn't even know how to operate Discord fully.
Alright, now I get you, that's a good point.
Which is to put the rules/guidelines/guides in the main #suggestions-voting channel and probably also append the read_pins part
We could nag certain people for that.
@ everyone 
oh good 
If one could change nicknames here I'd make "waah tAWxhEEC" my nickname
I feel putting it in #rules might help, but anyone who doesn't check pins probably wouldn't check the rules in much detail either 
You actually want to change it?
Well if it's a rule to at least try and discuss suggestions here first
No, the name.
Oh
Sure 
@elder kestrel
Do a relay, I'll be back in 30 minutes or so.
o ok
?
"I don't even take "toxicity" seriously, seen too many people being banned for being idiots and then whining 'waah tAWxhEEC'"
"If one could change nicknames here I'd make "waah tAWxhEEC" my nickname"
Chipbeam wants his name changed to "waah tAWxhEEC" 
anyways, this is offtopic 
Hm I see
Time to reposti my gun since it got buried completely 
Exo gun suggestion:
XO-77:
Rapidly fires a bullet with an 80% not to consume ammo. Converts all bullets to exo bullets (which don't pierce btw) that on hit with an enemy, will spawn in exo flares (similar to the nebula blaze attack) to home into the enemy from the corners of the screen, dealing 3/4 the normal damage of the bullet and giving the debuff Elemental Mix for 5 seconds. If the bullet hits any blocks/tiles, bounces and splits into 3 Terra Bullets in a spread.
Fires a fast moving and homing vortex every 2 seconds that has other similar mechanical properties to the Razorblade Typhoon attack but with 2/3 the damage of the gun. Maximum of 2 of these vortexes are out at a time. Attacks from the vortex will slightly heal the player and have a 5% chance to inflict Exo Freeze on the enemy (enemy restrictions from exo blade's freeze apply here). After 7 seconds, the vortex will explode, giving Marked for Death on all affected enemies in the explosion for 7 seconds.
you just made it even more powerful than it needs to be
on top of 19% summon damage, the crystal summons that fire at things, and 100 extra mana now it needs to give an extra 2 minion slots?
holy shit what poor timing for me to REPOST MY GUN 
The Expergiscere
The power of this artifact is immense...
A summon accessory that increases summoning damage by 4%, also 3 color changing crystals would spin around the player, rapidly shooting small color switching bolts at the enemy, and it also regerates 3 mana with each hit of a crystal attack, it also adds 1 minion slot.
Recipe: 30 crystal shards, 15 of all the gemstones, 3 of all cores except for calamity, 10 of all mechanical bosses souls, Summoner Emblem, Pygmy Necklace, 10 living shards.
Damn you people are brutal.
that's better provided the crystals can actually do damage
It actually is incrediby powerful for not even post ML
comparing it to statis' blessing, which you get around the same time
you trade 2 summon slots and a minor damage boost for the crystals
Damn, we're brutal for pointing out flaws with blatantly broken shit.
it's okay, just post your suggestions in #suggestions-discussion first for a friendly review. Posting in #suggestions-voting first will get a not so friendly review

anyways, please I need a review for my gun before I post it in #suggestions-voting for a mega roast 
Your suggestion is better im just gonna remove mine
In order to avoid the ROAST
Oh right people can screenshot stuff.
the point of putting suggestions here is to tweak them to be actually good first
I'd say tweak it a bit, make it a bit more unique and then repost
We already have the eldritch/godly soul artefact, statis' blessing, statis' curse, statis' belt of curses giving slots
the waifu stuff amongst other things spawning minions directly
hell, as well as armour giving slots
why not go for something more unique? like how the first shadowflame which makes summons deal a light DoT
it's hardly a great accessory and gets absorbed into statis' curse but it's an example of something that changes summons in a way that doesn't just give them more damage or let you summon more of them
spirit generator is another example of something like that
sadly both are too early game to be used for long
Probably mix the two accessories he mentioned together, with a unique effect, which would also mean that the spirit generator can be used as an eventual material for the Statis Curse 
also lmao river's suggestion
no offense but git gud instead of trying to get them to nerf the boss
a summoner accessory that made all your summons kind of behave like the stardust dragon, all the extra ones after the first would make it bigger instead with a bigger hitbox (or on its attacks) and do more damage 🤔
no doubt
Anyways, I'd say suggestions to nerf superbosses (such as SCal) will not have any hope of going through unless it's some broken thing that needs to be fixed. In that case, it's for #bugs-read-pins
that wasn't a suggestion to nerf scal
that was a suggestion to nerf clonelamitas
The Expergiscere
The origins of this immensely powerful artifact is not yet known.....
This summoning accessory increases summon damage by 16%, also while having this accessory equipped, when your summons hit a NPC, a nova of elemental shards would come out of the summon and stick to the enemy for 2 seconds before each of them explodes in a high damaging color changing explosion, the cooldown is 1.5 seconds. There is also a 45% chance that your summons will inflict elemental mix lasting 3 seconds.
Recipe: 10 of all the gems, 30 crystal shards, 1 core of calamity, pygmy necklace, summoner emblem, 7 living shards, 5 unholy cores, 10 of the lunar fragments.
Reason: In order to have more summoner accessories, and as filler...
Only craftable at the ancient manipulator.
make it so they shoot the shards on hit probably
idk how you'd make it work otherwise
remove the splitting into the smaller piercing shards too imo
probably a bit much and the piercing spam would get in the way of dps immensely unless they do massive damage
or in a similar vein but the opposite, all summons summon twice as many with weakened dps and smaller minions 🤔
Hmm
because i want twice as many chicken birds
Those rainbow roots are like vilethorn.