suggestions-discussion

[teal shoal]

Because its simply too much

[shadow prism]

too much what

[teal shoal]

Too much stats/passives

Removal of caps makes that you need only 100% crit to cap it instead of 175

Put it Simple dumb and unbalanced accessory which could only make that bosses could die in seconds

[shadow prism]

if you get hit at all you basically insta die

and it’s built for post scal bosses, destroying pre scal bosses isn’t really an issue

[teal shoal]

Oh wait didnt seen cala essences

Makes sense now

Still if something is dead it cant really kill you

[shadow prism]

alright then maybe doubles (or halves, idk what the right word is) caps?

[teal shoal]

Yea could be better so with dimen it could only cut 20%crit req

[bitter topaz]

things for pinkie to convince lompl to ban if they get in

[opal barn]

It's post Scal

[shadow prism]

change super dummy’s crafting station, there’s literally no reason to lock it to post DoG

either dummy + core of calamity or dummy + (pre-boss material)

[heady comet]

Stellar striker

[ashen warren]

Super Dumy: Made with one dummy

[tired haven]

Fun fact: Horseman's Blade doesn't trigger from super dummy

[split hatch]

I think the 5 second timer to use Adrenaline is a little too short, I'd be fine with 8-10 seconds, since like many others have pointed out, it essentially makes Adrenaline less useful against bosses with invulnerability phases.

also hi crab!

[spiral olive]

how would people feel about a buff to the elemental lance?

im thinking of suggesting some kind of homing capability or to increase the projectile size

cause its currently outclassed by some pre moonlord weapons

[radiant meadow]

you mean cuz the elemental lance was nerfed to hell?

the weapon used to take out death providence in less than 20s

[spiral olive]

xeroc pitchforks can do that now, and they are way easier to make than the lance

[calm loom]

There’s such thing as elemental lances?

[visual harness]

its fairly powerful

[neon panther]

neat idea

i like it

[radiant meadow]

It would be nice to have another magnet that doesn't attract thousands of fallen stars, too.
It pains me that my most recent suggestion is 49/50 stars

[shadow prism]

just replace magnetic meltdown with a loot magnet tbh

[reef moat]

thus why the suggestion has a radius of 100 or so tiles

[shadow prism]

for a recipe, maybe 5 titanium bars + 10 fallen stars (or 3 essences of eleum) + 5 souls of light/night

[radiant meadow]

so still gotten at same time as luiafk magnet?

[shadow prism]

yeah

[timber gale]

@reef moat Dare I ask how many depth cells you have lost?

[shadow prism]

upgrade idea: Super Loot Magnet: loot magnet + 5 luminite bars + 1 core of calamity (or 5 galactica singularities), loots entire map for easier farming

[radiant meadow]

so essentially the Luiafk magnet?

[shadow prism]

no the cheatsheet one

[radiant meadow]

oh, so instantly comes to you?

[shadow prism]

yeah

[reef moat]

no that should be PML

wait am rart

i mean post scal

[shadow prism]

that’s a bit extreme

[reef moat]

also i havnt lost any

i just want calamity to have more QoL items

@timber gale

[shadow prism]

at the absolute latest map-looting should be post doggo

PML seems pretty reasonable tho

[reef moat]

ya maybe

but we will see how this first suggeston goes then ill suggest an upgrade

[radiant meadow]

post doggo would help with getting endothermic energy, nightmare fuel
post yharon phase 1 would help with getting darksun fragments

since these float, they can be easy to miss sometimes

[shadow prism]

it helps with everything

[radiant meadow]

Making armageddon more consistent with nohits by disabling dodge would be nifty although it might be difficult to override aegis dash

[sleek wigeon]

@shadow prism "no reason to lock super dummy post dog"
Except for all of the perfectly good reasons to lock it post dog

[median swallow]

considering it can be used as a lifesteal source i'd say it's a pretty fair tradeoff

[ancient dragon]

Wait, it doesn't despawn when bosses are summoned?
Why?

[median swallow]

i'm not sure if it does or not

[quiet abyss]

It does for some, doesnt for some iirc

[median swallow]

i'd go lab it out but i'm tired and lazy

[ancient dragon]

If it's programmed to do so, there's no point in barring it at post-anything.
If it isn't... that's really dumb and should be fixed.

[ashen warren]

It doesn't despawn

For the ones I've tried anyeay

[median swallow]

plus even if it did there'd have to be more countermeasures because then you could just spawn it in after

[ashen warren]

Doesn't for scal, doesn't for dog

[ancient dragon]

Just apply the SCal thing to it but for every boss if that's an issue. @median swallow

[median swallow]

what's the "scal thing"

the hit cap?

[ancient dragon]

No other bosses (and iirc enemy entities in general) can be alive/spawned if SCal is.

[median swallow]

so basically just make a similar code for bosses

but have it be categorized to specifically the super dummy

[ancient dragon]

Yes.

[median swallow]

that's a pretty good solution

[ancient dragon]

I'd be surprised if it truly isn't already in place. Sounds like a no-brainer.

[median swallow]

if it's not i'd say it should be put in #suggestions-voting

[ashen warren]

I'm pretty sure super dummies work while scal is alive

Or they did in 1.3.4.1

[shadow prism]

this most likely isn’t feasible, but take the right side of hell and make it the abyss layer 5, which would be very large and open up horizontally like an ocean floor at the bottom of a trench. accessible from the very bottom of layer 4. could feature a wrecked ship, even more horrifying sea creatures, mature aquatic scourges, full-sized leviathans and other deadly sea creatures. they would drop stuff after yharon phase 1 is killed

[sleek wadi]

Sounds like bullshit and could eat up the crags

[shadow prism]

the “likely not feasible” was there for a reason

it would require moving crags further to the right

or forcing abyss to spawn on the right side of the map

[ashen warren]

Or you know, ^

[sleek wadi]

Then what if someone plays with Thorium and jungle is right side?

[ashen warren]

True

[shadow prism]

just don’t play thorium then

for real tho idk

[ashen warren]

The Crags being forced on the left side is honestly the dumb dumb

[shadow prism]

just force dungeon right side

[ashen warren]

Vanilla Code Manipulation

That is just something this mod hates apparently

despite the whole planetoids business

[shadow prism]

vanilla code is awful

[ashen warren]

Yes, but manipulating it can sometimes break it

[ancient dragon]

Method swapping? Yeah, it causes a bitchload of issues.

[sleek wadi]

I mean you could make crags spawn jungle side

[ashen warren]

Is it really that bad though tbh?

[shadow prism]

alternatively, add layer 5 but don’t put it in hell, just put it like 1 screen below the bottom of layer 4

then it wouldn’t matter which side biomes spawned on

[ashen warren]

Honestly just make the Abyss spawn wherever

[shadow prism]

spawns in planetoid layer

[ashen warren]

Haha yes

The broken Planetoids

[shadow prism]

abyss layer 4 is currently not spooky enough imo, it’s just too constricted and narrow, without having horizontal room it prevents the minibosses from being far more challenging and allowing colossal enemies to exist down there

[ashen warren]

Abyss layer 4 has the giant open pit what are you talking about?

[shadow prism]

it’s a joke (as in easy not comedy)

just valediction

done

[ashen warren]

That looks nothing like a joke dude

[shadow prism]

you don’t die unless adult wyrm spawns or reaper combos you

and darkness is largely mitigated by myriad light buffs and stuff, tho it’s still pretty heckin dark

[ashen warren]

Easy to counter those actually

Just have baby siren and light potion and anything that adds to your light level

Summoner Head pieces for existing armors imo would not fix summoner’s issue

[torpid rover]

Issue how so?

Just felt like i was getting walled and daedalus is a cut below hallowed equivalents rn so I think it would feel smoother if summoner at least had some more options

[shadow prism]

rev+ summoner nerf and summons generally being weak until post ml

[torpid rover]

since spooky armor is locked behind plantera

Summoner has a lot of issues to deal with but this would at least be a step in the right direction for the weird mid-game it has

Another issue imo is that they want to make summons the focus of the class with the damage nerf but there's not enough iterations of weapons like lunic eye

Maybe make it so that the damage nerf is applied based on whether your armor is summoner or not instead of your weapon, since you already kind of trade your damage on other weapons by running summoner armor

[ashen warren]

Adding helmets though doesn’t make that transition smoother

Spider armor, Forbidden Armor, So on

And these two armors are pretty awesome

[shadow prism]

instead of layer 5 just have enraged fishrons randomly spawn in layer 4

[ashen warren]

No

[torpid rover]

Guess I'll give spider another go and see how things play out

[ashen warren]

Yes

Summoner has some pretty badass armors tbh

[torpid rover]

I think it does sort of disincentivize the player from bothering with a fair amount of armors/mats given that they don't serve any real use to their class though

Not just in terms of armor but summoning items too

[shadow prism]

actual serious abyss buff suggestion: everything in layer 4 inflicts no u or equivalent (no armor/accessories) for 1 second on contact

[split hatch]

That debuff is a joke, and as far as I'm aware there isn't any entity or source to inflict it.

[bitter topaz]

that would be awful, and no u is a joke debuff anyway

[strong monolith]

@junior echo I would like some context I have no idea what you're talking about

[junior echo]

Its a shotgun from borderlands 2 that, at its most basic, spawns more pellets perpendicular to the original pellet as the bullets travel, or when it hits something

kinda like the elemental quiver

other way around tho

[quiet abyss]

So your suggestion is adding more weapons of this kind?

Specify it then. Infact, might wanna just make a new weapon up with that kind of effect and suggest it, with the usual things like weapon name, how to craft/get etc.
Vague suggestions like this typically aren’t well received.

[junior echo]

fair enough

[ancient dragon]

not letting me rail on someone for a low-effort suggestion
Smh Pinkie. </3

[junior echo]

I don't wanna get railed

that doesn't sound like fun

[ancient dragon]

Your compliance isn't a factor.

[ruby cobalt]

Conference Call suggestion?

You.. you're aware of it already existing?

@junior echo

!wiki Conclave Crossfire

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Conclave_Crossfire

[lunar berry]

Conclave crossfire is a really good gun

[ancient dragon]

Whoops, time to rail anyways.
*cracks knuckles*

[junior echo]

oh yep. I figured it'd still be called 'conference call' when I looked for it the wiki. So, I'll just be deleting that suggestions post now...

[ruby cobalt]

I mean, if you want it to be a weapon it already is

If you want a similar effect then quiver exists for that purpose.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar berry]

Also see the dissemination

Disseminator

[junior echo]

I'm about ready for that railing now

[ancient dragon]

YOU FUCKIN' BThis message has been cut short by your friendly neighborhood rules. Have a good day.

[lunar berry]

Hmm

What about the fuckin

[junior echo]

aw man, I even bent over and everything

[alpine copper]

I think I read something like the animus was nerfed and that's why it's not as powerful as you would expect

[brisk ferry]

I wish it wasn't.

[shadow prism]

immaterializer is already insanely good, ignoring i frames would make it really broken

[lost agate]

And demonshade.... Just forget it ok

[brisk ferry]

forget demonshade armor entirely?

ElectroX, actually, no, I disagree.

Too big of a DPS loss.

[shadow prism]

using it if you don’t play pure summoner is kinda dumb

with pure summoner it isn’t a dps loss because eating enemy i frames is fine

[brisk ferry]

Why? It offers 25% projectile damage reduction.

Not dumb at all.

[shadow prism]

it does?

[brisk ferry]

Yes!

[shadow prism]

ok

[brisk ferry]

For a ranged melee warrior like myself that's a blessing.

[shadow prism]

still, it eating other weapon’s i frames is kinda just the price to pay for having a summon, this happens with almost every other summon in the game

[brisk ferry]

points to Yharon's Kindle Staff

That certainly does eat iframes.

And the cosmic immaterializer is supposed to be even better than that. But it interferes with son of yharon's ability to damage the enemy.

Thus, a DPS loss.

And if you're a summoner, you're shooting yourself in the foot in all reality from having the cosmic being on your side.

[shadow prism]

if it ignored i frames summoner would be incredibly strong tho

honestly it’s good rn

[bitter topaz]

the immaterialiser is already an amazing weapon

it doesn't need a buff, at all

[night cradle]

^

It already does like 3000 damage from projectiles.

[bitter topaz]

yeah it's around 3k per projectile

[shadow prism]

are immaterializer and kindle staff the only summons that grant buffs from just existing

[worthy fiber]

bolts are 1,500; stars are 3k

[brisk ferry]

Actually it wouldn't be any stronger if it ignored iframes. It just means you'd stop screwing yourself over from having it on your side.

Because in all reality, you nerf yourself. It takes a lot longer to kill bosses with it for example.

[shadow prism]

what

do you understand how i frames work

[brisk ferry]

Yes. I do.

[shadow prism]

if it ignored i frames you dps would go through the roof

[brisk ferry]

If you have two sons of yharon constantly attacking a boss with an immaterializer, sons will have their damage disrupted.

Whereas if you don't have an immaterializer disrupting iframes, they'll tear that boss apart much faster.

[shadow prism]

I use that combo on scal, it still does insanely good damage

[brisk ferry]

It's not as good as having just sons of yharon though

[shadow prism]

???

[bitter topaz]

the immaterialiser is a fuckton better than chicken nuggets

[shadow prism]

^

[bitter topaz]

it's a be-all-end-all summon for a reason

[brisk ferry]

I did a comparison. I do much more damage with more sons of yharon alone and without an immaterializer than I do with it.

[shadow prism]

what’d you test them on, storm weaver?

[brisk ferry]

No. On SCal.

And some others.

[bitter topaz]

that doesn't sound right. at all

[shadow prism]

can you record it with a dps meter?

[brisk ferry]

That's what I'm working on right now.

[fervent zealot]

sons doing more than cosmic

are you high?

[brisk ferry]

Nope. Remember, they ignore iframes.

[fervent zealot]

imagine thinking sons are better than cosmic

[brisk ferry]

Well, they are, in their current state, for quite a number of cases.

[fervent zealot]

you forget that cosmic also passively buffs you

[brisk ferry]

So do the sons.

[fervent zealot]

yes but do the sons give you 25% projectile protection

didn't think so

[brisk ferry]

They give defense, life regen, movement speed and grant you holy flames.

[fervent zealot]

that still doesn't really compare to 25% less damage from non contact

and no, sons don't pierce iframes

[brisk ferry]

Yes they do.

[fervent zealot]

not any time i've used them and i main summoner

are you by any chance using alchemistnpc

[brisk ferry]

No I'm not. And I don't know why they aren't for you but they are for me.

[shadow prism]

if sons are so good why isn’t sons + voltaic banned but cosmic + voltaic is

[fervent zealot]

^

[brisk ferry]

Fucked if I know.

[worthy fiber]

A video would be nice if you wanted to show how the imm. lowers DPS

[brisk ferry]

I'm working on one.

[worthy fiber]

Alrighty.

[ashen warren]

You also forget immaterlizers greatest addition

Basically constant ichor

Which is super important as scal has 48% Dr on death

[shadow prism]

wait it decreases dr?

[ashen warren]

So even without cosmics already insane damage it makes all your other stuff do 20-25% more

Yes

Nothing beats cosmic voltaic for a reason

Next closest is like melee or something

[shadow prism]

is thee a full list of what it passively grants? it isn’t on the wiki

[ashen warren]

Idk

But it makes scale turn yellow

So I assume ichor

[brisk ferry]

I'm making a bunch of recordings to prove my findings. Even with the cosmic materializer against SCal though, there is still DPS loss.

Also recording it against a super target dummy.

[worthy fiber]

@mental flicker They'll be added when they're sprited

[alpine copper]

Just curious but why tho?

[worthy fiber]

Deathmode's only meant to be an extra challenge

No other content is going to be added aside from different Boss AI and the current mechanics

[bitter topaz]

^

the only items exclusive to death are both dev pets

[worthy fiber]

Novelty items

[tired haven]

Not to mention both devs did ridiculous things which are represent with pets

[fervent zealot]

yes

[neon panther]

thats kinda memish ngl

[fervent zealot]

he used the word stabulous he needs to be banned

[neon panther]

idk if this is considered a meme suggestion but just incase heres a ping good sir @ashen warren

[worthy fiber]

eh, not really

[ashen warren]

Yeah it isn't a meme suggestion I don't think

[worthy fiber]

It's just stylish

[ashen warren]

It is definitely low effort though

[fervent zealot]

the © and ™ make me think otherwise

[ancient dragon]

^

Fuck you Sza. >:CCCC

[ashen warren]

Eh, I'll just slap a warn on him

[neon panther]

I'd say just a verbal warning

tbh

since it's only borderline meme

[ashen warren]

smh telling me how to moderate

[neon panther]

[worthy fiber]

he's already warned

[fervent zealot]

he made a fucking disgusting pun

ban

[ashen warren]

Ban tbh

[pseudo fossil]

His pun was so bad that i want to stab him with his own suggetions (no pun intended tbh)

[opal barn]

Iunno man, his pun seemed pretty eggscellent to me

[neon panther]

actually die

[ruby cobalt]

@pulsar flint already done

[ancient dragon]

@ashen warren Vanquish this fool.

[ashen warren]

yeah yeah I'm on it

[ancient dragon]

Right, sorry.

[ashen warren]

nah you're fine

@pulsar flint Yharim is already the planned final boss iirc, and also don't do low effort suggestions

[night cradle]

Make Yharim finaler boss

[ashen warren]

[wooden leaf]

Make Yharims father the final boss after yharim

[hybrid cipher]

@ashen warren why are you not deleting them

[ashen warren]

Sorry, I forgot to

[unique vector]

@left crag it would be better if the map allowed you to teleport to the last place you died or the last place you were before using cellphone, and remove the tele home mechanic. we dont need another tele home item lol

this makes it more useful to combine the map and phone as well

[left crag]

Basically I stole that idea from Black Desert

Archeologist map

[ruby cobalt]

Basically you stole it from luiafk.

And Thorium somewhat added in it.

[shadow prism]

imksushi and luaifk have those things already

also make mothron passive if he’s within 50 blocks of a lämp

[tired haven]

it is already getting passive but there is no lämp in game so

[gusty geode]

there are several lamps tho

[radiant meadow]

mothron or moth?

[tired haven]

there are no lämps tho

[delicate raft]

Suggestion: Add lämps

[wind flicker]

add a lamp staff

[tired haven]

cosmilamp exists

[azure elm]

that will do for lamp

[left crag]

rename Rage Inducer to something meme-y like aNgeRY

[sleek wigeon]

no meme suggestions

[dull kite]

@sleek wigeon are you oK?

[sleek wigeon]

No

[shadow prism]

its already in the game, its called super dummy + gilded probiscis

[lusty idol]

@sleek yew Call it "Salt"

Regarding the new change to suggestions needing 50 stars to be fowarded, can we repost past suggestions to see if they reach ~50?

[tired haven]

I mean you can always repost ideas if they are somewhat old and didn't get checked before

[hollow shell]

Just change that Altar to Main Planetoid only. I don't think a lot of people want that in their spawnpoint considering you cant break it till Hardmode

[sleek wigeon]

demon alter on spawnpoint shiver

how would you build?

[lusty idol]

Lets say that you have reposted old ideas before, then post them again for the 35 stars. Now that they need 50, can we repost them for the second time?

[neon panther]

if it's been a week, you can repost

[frosty kindle]

only if the delay between a repost is long enough --yeah.

[neon panther]

[frosty kindle]

just dont want the suggestions to seem repetitive or stale

[lusty idol]

Ahh ok. I guess that complements the 50 stars thing

[frosty kindle]

50 stars as well as developer checks makes it hard to get into the dev channel, and even then its not a 100% guarantee that it'll get in.

[lusty idol]

I understand. Le pings told me.

[dull kite]

@ashen warren no shadowspec stuff

[quiet flume]

@ashen warren i think u cant add post scal weapons, since all of them are dev weapons

yeah evan

[ashen warren]

Ok

[shadow prism]

could suggestions that get sent to the dev server and are well-received or very likely to get in get a special reaction besides ✅, maybe 👌 or something?

[neon panther]

I'd like that tbh

[radiant meadow]

you mean something besides a ✅ ?

[shadow prism]

yeah

[neon panther]

✅ is just for getting in the dev server, he means something else that means most/all the devs like and are willing to implement

[shadow prism]

^

[radiant meadow]

oh, I see; that would be nice

[dull kite]

@ashen warren just for future reference: There isn't a point of adding stats to your suggestion. In the end, they will always be decided by Fabsol.

also you aren't supposed to star your own suggestions

[ashen warren]

Ok im gonna remove my star

[shadow prism]

why’d you repost it

[dull kite]

[tired haven]

just make it 51 star requirement and let everyone star their suggestion tbh

[neon panther]

I mean starring your own suggestion is allowed, just frowned upon

[shadow prism]

can suggestions that devs hate/laugh at get a or

[neon panther]

that would just get people offended

[dull kite]

not really hyp, afaik you just aren't supposed to do it.

[ashen warren]

I tryed to edit but it reposted

[dull kite]

The original starrers (like me) could just remove our star

which is what I would normally do if someone stars their own suggestion

[ashen warren]

If you can't tell I'm somewhat salty over lamps

[shadow prism]

the lamps are fine since mindless projectile spam destroys them

however I still have nightmares about the mines

[radiant meadow]

in my experience, the only surefire way to eliminate lamps is to wear tarragon summoner armor

[shadow prism]

insert möth “joke” here

[ashen warren]

Yeah but I'll shoot them and apparently miss a single lamp and it just hits me at Mach nine while I'm fighting dog

[shadow prism]

use homing stuff

[ashen warren]

I do

But I can't see where every single one is

And the mines are another problem

[shadow prism]

in most of my runs signus dies incredibly quick with rage, lamps don’t even spawn

[ashen warren]

Might be worth actually

I try and save it for dog phase 2

And your on death so rage can actually kill him that fast

[shadow prism]

two things: 1. despair stone statue (that spawns them), they have so much puzzle potential for adventure maps. made from 20 stone + 5 smooth brimstone slag + 1 core of chaos at a hardmode anvil 2. darksun lamp, made from 5 darksun fragments + any lamp at a draedon's forge. grants buff: docile mothron. brother, i need lamp. at night, emits light from its eyes. when in complete darkness, has a chance to play the eidolon scream sound effect and spawn a hyperbuffed mothron (stupid meme reference, but another pet would be nice)

[fervent zealot]

stupid meme

delet

[lunar berry]

You spelt lämp wrong

[sleek wigeon]

Did you know

angry tumbler uses unicorn ai?

[fervent zealot]

yes

angry tumblrs are ANNOYING

[neon panther]

I wish the unicorn sprite rolled like angry tumblr

[ashen warren]

Did you know

The angry part in angry tumblr is redundant

[ashen warren]

Oh carp smh

[proven tide]

@quiet abyss

star yourselph

yesss

this is a good idea

[quiet abyss]

...I didn't even star it myself, Alexis got it before me

[potent vortex]

The fact that the cosmic key car isn't in the recipe bother me

[quiet abyss]

There's already Xeno Staff in recipe

[potent vortex]

Wait it is a summon weapon not a mount my bad

[quiet abyss]

Oh lmao

[shadow prism]

perhaps add effulgent feathers to the recipe so mechworm still has one boss it has to be used on?

[quiet abyss]

Whoops, forgot to note it can only be summoned once, since it stays above your head.

[worthy fiber]

Would a darksun upgrade for Staff of the Frost Hydra be interesting?

nevermind I can actually just answer that myself

[quiet abyss]

Staff of the Frost Hydra is pretty much the only biome chest weapon without an upgrade

[worthy fiber]

Summoner doesn't have a darksun upgrade either

[quiet abyss]

Rainbow Gun has Cosmic Rainbow
Scourge of the Corruptor has Scourge of the Cosmos
Vampire Knives has Empyrean Knives
Piranha Gun has Barracuda Gun

[placid moth]

racism against ice weapons

[worthy fiber]

is it bad that just now I realised Scourge of the Cosmos and Empyrean Knives are counterparts

[placid moth]

are they

[quiet abyss]

They are

[worthy fiber]

They even have the Xeroc weapons

[quiet abyss]

Scourge of the Corruptor is corruption biome chest weapon, Vampire Knives is crimson. Counterparts.
So SotC and Empyrean knives are naturally counterparts, as well

And ye, they both have xeroc weapons in their recipe

SotC has xeroc pitchforks, empyrean knive has the empyrean

I question the choice of making a flamethrower be a recipe for knives for oh well

[worthy fiber]

Eh, feels cool

flamethrower-knives

[placid moth]

makes sense

[heady comet]

[worthy fiber]

1000 degree knives

[shadow prism]

Cosmic Credit Card or Mom’s Credit Card
Limitless wealth
Made from 1 discount card + 99 platinum coins + 5 cosmilite bars (+ possibly 1 ruinous soul, because it ruins your credit) at a Draedon’s forge

Exists so you don’t have to farm money post DoG, because at that point it’s just a chore

[ashen warren]

This exact suggestion was post by someone

Don't remember who

Your name is better though

[shadow prism]

ok

[ashen warren]

The caption was "you own the banks kid"

Lemme try and find it

[shadow prism]

now I remember that one

[ashen warren]

It was maqua

Actually you can repost it since it's been more than two weeks

[shadow prism]

should I

[ashen warren]

But maquas got like 90 stars anyway so

Probably not

[shadow prism]

alright I won’t then

Demigod’s Brew
Grants unimaginable power
Every potion at once
Made from 3 empty bottles + 100 blood orbs + 3 divine geodes + 3 ruinous souls + 3 cosmilite bars + 3 endothermic energy + 3 nightmare fuel + 3 darksun fragments + 1 core of calamity (makes 3)

Grants literally every calamity and vanilla potion buff, lasts for 59 minutes. Serves to make scal (and later bosses) potion farming more bearable. Zen effect would override zerg.

[worthy fiber]

Wrong channel?

[shadow prism]

this is suggestions discussion

[worthy fiber]

Oh, ok

59 minute Zerg

[shadow prism]

zen overrides zerg iirc

it’s mostly for bosses, so if zerg overrides it would just not grant zerg

other than that though is the recipe too cheap

[worthy fiber]

Doesn't seem so

[wise pollen]

Those buffs will have to last through death to be anything viable to fighting scal

[bitter topaz]

all buffs at once wouldn't work, anyway

terraria has a hard buff limit of 22 iirc

[shadow prism]

oh

it would grant one buff though

it would just have the effects of everything

[upbeat river]

sort of like yharim stimulants right?

just one really strong buff

[shadow prism]

yeah

[alpine copper]

Sounds similar to alchemist's combinations

Jojoke detected

[wise pollen]

Yes.

At least it's not just a popular or "fan favourite" stand.

I never hear anyone talk about Wired.

[shadow prism]

Give brimlings 10,000/15,000/20,000/30,000 hp and make them increase in size as they get weaker, like bloatfish, but make it so they can’t/don’t respawn

They’re currently annoying meatshields for brimmy, which is fine, but it gets extremely irritating when those meatshields keep respawning without end and waste homing projectiles

[bitter topaz]

just don't use homing then?

[ruby cobalt]

It's not even about homing projectiles, they just respawn.

Which is the worst thing about them.

You killed one? Here's another one, you just killed a meatshield that sits on your face.

[shadow prism]

yeah

they could also use a different hitsound so it doesn’t sound like brimmy is being hit (ik healthbar exists, but still)

if the above brimling buff/nerf would make the fight too easy, make it so killing one causes brimmy to instantly enter cocoon phase and heal 10%/12%/15%/20% of her hp

if that still isn’t enough, make them fire scal’s giga blasts periodically on deathmode

should I post this to #suggestions-voting

[ashen warren]

Sure

Baby Crab

This@must be Added even though basically nothing in suggestions is ever added

[hollow shell]

@low hedge Did Crabulon's shake attack make it in-game?

[cyan lagoon]

No

[low hedge]

oh raelly

[cyan lagoon]

He still attacks like before

[ashen warren]

Just a new sprite?

[low hedge]

huh

[dull kite]

ice clasper***** smh @low hedge

[low hedge]

oh no

[dull kite]

ily good job

[low hedge]

💖

[dull kite]

crabbo summon cute

[limber gate]

^

looks very cute

[lusty idol]

To Electro's Demigod's Brew suggestion: I've noticed that having Zerg and Zen at the same time would just cancel out, and some, but not a lot, mobs would spawn.

Idk

[lost agate]

#calamity-mod-talk tho

[lusty idol]

I was referring to the suggestion by Electro.

didnt feel like tagging but whatever.

[lost agate]

Well, at least saying the name could help y'know

[lusty idol]

sure

[shadow prism]

I’m fairly sure zen overrides zerg

if it doesn’t just make the potion not grant zerg

[tired haven]

I'm fairly sure they do cancel each other out and you get roughly normal spawnrate

[shadow prism]

alright I changed it

it no longer grants battle or zerg

[hollow shell]

@shadow prism Remove that bit about the hit sound and those possible balance buffs. The suggestion kinda loses focus because of them

Could just summarize that bottom section with "To compensate for this nerf, Brimmy could have a more intense rage after killing one"

[shadow prism]

removed the bit about the hitsound, but the rest are specific changes that balance it out, easier then”she gets angery” to understand precisely

[hollow shell]

Alright, suit yourself

@scenic atlas Stardust Staff has gravity? First I've heard of it
Which part of it, the main ice ball or the little ice shards?

Oh wait it can spawn stars, can't it?

[scenic atlas]

The little stars, yep

[hollow shell]

Mention them as stars. I think most people know the weapon for the ice part of it

[scenic atlas]

Kk

[hollow shell]

Ye that's better

[radiant meadow]

@stoic narwhal This has been suggested already and is already changed for the new update.

[cyan lagoon]

I feel it would be better tied into tml itself, batby

Though yes, calamity uses the dust particle alot

[shadow prism]

syg if youre gonna have demonshade remove all rev caps, it would probably be more balanced to have it also reduce DR and def either by a lot or just reduce them to 0 because certain combos are obscenely broken without the caps, but making the player get basically 2 shot by everything mostly negates that

[tired haven]

implying that auric doesn't give you like 4x dps and doesn't slap 5x survivability on top of it

[shadow prism]

do you remember the triple immaterializer combo, or the 4mil dps apoth combo

stuff like that just doesnt work with auric

[tired haven]

Triple immaterialiser just doesn't work apparently

[shadow prism]

that got nerfed so you cant have more than 1

[tired haven]

Apoth was nerfed as well

[shadow prism]

true

ok those were bad examples

[tired haven]

I doubt you would really find anything worthy because softcap is just against dps, not snowballing strats

[shadow prism]

but still, super glass cannon builds that reach ridiculous dps need a price or something, because otherwise you get bosses that just die instantly

[tight chasm]

I think you'd be surprised how much you rely on godslayer revive/silva lifesave
having those removed would probably be price enough

[shadow prism]

glass cannon builds are usually for nohits or <5-hits

so the revive doesnt matter

though yeah losing the multitude of effects does kinda suck

still, maybe make it do something like dimensional or reaper, like just "you take 15% more damage" or "-10% DR"

[tired haven]

I mean one of auric parts acts like 10% dr so equipping demonshade already gets rid of it

[shadow prism]

alright then, how about this with no caps: reaper tooth necklace, dimensional soul artifact, class elemental accesory, void of extinction, void of calamity, core of the blood god, celestial tracers, if all are menacing, thats 124% (+ armor and potions) increased damage and >100% crit chance

it'd prolly be fine for post-scal tho

[tight chasm]

if we're being honest here the only time you'd use it is during boss rush anyways, and quite a few bosses have long invincibility periods

[shadow prism]

yeah

and the above build is extreme glass cannon, you would get OHKO'd by literally everything

[radiant meadow]

void of calamity and extinction don't stack iirc

it won't let you equip both at once pretty sure

[tired haven]

I don't think you won't be able to equip both nor get both stat bonuses

[radiant meadow]

although wof emblems exist anyways

basically a class void without special effects

raider's talisman for throwers I guess

[tired haven]

WhErE iS cOmMuNiTy btw

Ik it's only 10% lel

Or not?

[radiant meadow]

Isn't it +20% dmg post yharon?

and + idk how much crit?

[tired haven]

Ye, might've messed it up with dr

!wiki the community

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/The_Community
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page the community for a direct link or !wiki search the community for a list of all hits.

[tired haven]

20% yep

[sleek yew]

when your suggestion has 49 stars

[radiant meadow]

the crab staff one?

[sleek yew]

no the rage inducer one

[radiant meadow]

wait, that wasn't you

[sleek yew]

it was

[radiant meadow]

I think I already starred the rage inducer.

[tired haven]

Welp I starred it as well

[sleek yew]

should i star my own suggestion

[tired haven]

dont

[sleek wigeon]

yes

You want your suggestion to be added? star it

[sleek yew]

i starred it

oh it reached 51, gotta unstar now

also someone check mark pls

[quiet abyss]

Oi, be patient. It’ll be checkmarked eventually

Either in a few minutes or hours

[radiant meadow]

do mods get a notification or something when stuff reaches 50 stars or do they have to be diligent about #suggestions-voting ?

[quiet abyss]

Latter

[dull kite]

@covert hinge no shadowspec bar items

[sleek yew]

ouch

[dull kite]

@covert hinge also put your suggestions in 1 message

[covert hinge]

fixed it

[radiant meadow]

how would the universal artifact nerf the godly one?

would it only summon one chicken nugget?

[lunar berry]

probably

But I think it’s still too op

[ancient dragon]

@plush remnant Strange Orb.

[hollow shell]

@plush remnant

uhhhh

[radiant meadow]

why would we need another abyss light pet?

[plush remnant]

Oh wait, that exists already?

[hollow shell]

Young Siren

[radiant meadow]

It's a baby siren

[ancient dragon]

!wiki strange orb

[red storm]

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Strange_Orb
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page strange orb for a direct link or !wiki search strange orb for a list of all hits.

[radiant meadow]

super bright

[hollow shell]

As bright as Suspicious Tentacle, but PreHM

[plush remnant]

Lemme delet my suggestion

[ancient dragon]

tfw you make a suggestion without having checked the wiki/played thoroughly

[radiant meadow]

I thought it's brighter cuz suspicious tentacle doesn't make your face white iirc

[plush remnant]

I've played through Calamity at least 10 times. I just always refused to go into the Abyss.

[frosty kindle]

aaaand thats why you have trouble with SG

[ancient dragon]

tfw you make a suggestion based on an area you neglected

[frosty kindle]

SG is literally an abyss-check

[ancient dragon]

SG, Levi, DoG...

[plush remnant]

Levi was easy.

[radiant meadow]

I've beaten sg and leviathan without abyss gear

[ancient dragon]

Whaddya know, so have I.

[plush remnant]

I've beaten SG and Levi without abyss gear as well

[frosty kindle]

Levi can be killed with pre-abyssion bard gear ffs

[radiant meadow]

sg also is called "I forgot herring staff is a thing so I used imps"

[frosty kindle]

imp staff

[ancient dragon]

Aaaanyways, gettin' off-track.

[frosty kindle]

#general-talk 🔫

[neon panther]

yes

[ashen warren]

Another rare item needed for shields? No thank you

[lost agate]

If it wasnt because calamity added vanilla crafting recipes that shield would be extremely hard to get already

[lusty idol]

@ashen warren I did say for its drop rate to be raised or make it craftable.

The only thing is if they consider doing that.

[sleek wigeon]

You couldve just suggested that the mirror function be added to the sheild

as apposed to the crafting recipe

[lusty idol]

i mean sure. but the suggestion made it clear that the Pocket Mirror should be included in a recipe. That is my suggestion anyways.

[shadow prism]

Arcbolt
Summoners hypercharged bolts of electricity
Made from charged blaster cannon + 10 ectoplasm + 20 lumenyl + 7 cores of eleum + 10 darksun fragments at a Draedon’s forge (some of these things are just here because they’re eidolist-related, as is this weapon)
(Magic gun) Fires a modified version of cultist/void/dog’s lightning orbs that do not shoot projectiles that slowly move towards enemies. The slow-moving orbs spawn a faster, homing lighting bolt on hit, the bolts also spawn other bolts. 1 enemy cannot be used to spawn more than 1 bolt. It’s essentially chain lightning, to be used mainly for supreme soul seekers but could also be used for farming

[wicked swift]

Erm... my old suggestion just reached 51 stars but doesn't have a checkmark

Here's proof I guess

[wicked swift]

@worthy raptor sorry for the ping

[low hedge]

i guess the devs arent interested in it or smth

they check there regularly

[wicked swift]

So the devs don't even consider a suggestion if they're not interested in it...

seems fair enough

[wanton sun]

@ashen warren it isnt getting nerfed.

[ashen warren]

I use that today i beat prov gua

[wicked swift]

It feels quite crushing to get your suggestion all the way up to 50 just to have it get ignored

[wanton sun]

i mean there's only one online

cant you wait?

[sleek wigeon]

TBF

[wanton sun]

also halibut cannon is a scaling weapon, gaining damage after reaching hardmode and post moon lord

[sleek wigeon]

the gun does have scaling

[wanton sun]

h

[sleek wigeon]

Still doesnt make it less OP

but its not getting nerfed so

uh

[ashen warren]

Everything should change man using same thing entire game is not that fun

[sleek wigeon]

Disagree. If using the same thing all game wasnt fun

[wanton sun]

nobody is forcing you to use the cannon

[sleek wigeon]

people wouldnt be suggesting legendary reverts

Anyhow fish cannon

aint getting nerfed

its been confirmed by fabsol

no nerfs

[wanton sun]

smh where's that pin with the halibut cannon doing the woke eyes

it got unpinned huh

[ashen warren]

There should be upgrade version of halibut instead of

[wanton sun]

halibut cannon is the upgrade to halibut cannon

and halibut cannon is the upgrade to that

its a scaling weapon.

[tepid wadi]

Halibut cannon is something optional, not required, tedious to farm, a reference to a deceased youtuber.

It will not get a nerf and most definitely not a buff either.

[wicked swift]

"something optional that is not required"... redundant?

[wanton sun]

you could use cheat sheet and blaze through the mod

but thats optional and not required

[tired haven]

Here you go

Also nice daily dose of "nerf hailbutt", mmm

[potent vortex]

it's a useless weapon tbh

[ashen warren]

It's fun, especially when you manage to find a fire rate increase somewhere and just

everything melts.

[quiet abyss]

Ye, Halibut cannon exists for fun and cheese
...Some people still don't get it tho, or thought that it was unintentionally overpowered

[ashen warren]

"Honestly, there's really no point to beating Skeletron Pre-HM in the mod" abyss weapons

Those, too, are optional.

archerfish kinda isn't

Useful? Yes.

The herring one isn't

Are things beatable without it? Yes.

The melee one for slime god so you can get the gelitic blade otherwise slime god is stupid on melee

Lionfish carries you until twins tbh

I've never once felt the need to fight Skeletron with just Calamity, even without planetoids.

I agree with the whole alchemy station stuff but skele is "optional" only technically

You play normal or something?

Even when i did the one Rev run a month or so ago (stopped at Plantera i think because the world got corrupted) i still didn't feel the need to beat him until just before mechtrio.

...I also completely ignored the Abyss because i think the mechanic is a bit OTT on its enforcement, but that's a completely different topic.

Oh yea see I only play DM so abyss weapons are basically required for slime god unless I'm dodging particularly well that day

I'm not usually feeling that masochistic, if i am i'm playing on a server with a bunch of people feeling about the same way.

[worthy fiber]

Should cater to everyone though, masochistic or not 🤔

[tired haven]

Come to another thought tho,does every boss need to lock something absolutely vital for progression?

Look at queen bee

2-3 tools for some chosen classes

[ashen warren]

Is Alchemy Lab vital? 🤔

[wanton sun]

thanks for the image crabbar

been looking for it for a solid minute

[tired haven]

It kinda is because you can't craft calamity potions (which are better than vanilla ones) without it

And np

I like this image much enough to spread it

[ashen warren]

Better, but are they vital?

tbh i never used Stims until after DoG

[tired haven]

Tbh if they aren't vital, it's another point in not locking table behind skelly

[night cradle]

[ashen warren]

[tired haven]

Also yeah should I talk about shadow key?

[ashen warren]

you present a valid point, but it's a powerful utility nonetheless, and the herb farm might fit better anyways.

Shadow Key was optional the last time i did a run. Mostly because i skipped Abyss until post-Golem.

[tired haven]

Well it's another powerful instrument unlocked after skeletron
Not required (just like buffs as you wisely noticed), but quite helpful

[worthy fiber]

Everything Skeletron offers is basically optional, but powerful

even the dungeon itse;f

[alpine garnet]

Abyss weapons are reason enough to fight skeleton tbh

And torrential tear is nice too

[wicked swift]

What roles are capable of ✅ing a suggestion?

[worthy fiber]

Cool Dude+

[wicked swift]

Okay bc I have an old suggestion with 51 ⭐s and it hasn't been ✅ed yet

[tepid wadi]

Which one.

But do keep in mind that there are a lot and I mean of lot of suggestions

[wicked swift]

I've got a screenshot here

[tepid wadi]

Not really calamity mod related but more server related

[wicked swift]

they said I should post those in #suggestions-voting as well

[tepid wadi]

Mhm. But the white checkmarks are probably for mod itself related matters since those will be send to devs

We devs are not server owners

[wicked swift]

ehh... yeah... let's it slide

[tepid wadi]

And I believe the matter of updates and spoilers has been discussed before. “What is the outcome?” I do not know. Stuff tend to happen while I am asleep.

[shadow prism]

make enemies in the dungeon drop ectoblood after calamitas is dead, to help further the ideas that she’s a plantera alternative

[neon panther]

IIRC dungeon is hardcoded to be locked post-plant, but I could be wrong

or did you mean just ectoblood

[alpine copper]

I really like the idea of an option on the modconfig/json file that reduces or disables the excessive visual effects of weapons

[placid moth]

yes

the dash option for asgardian aegis is annoying for scal

[alpine copper]

I mean most projectiles come along with industrial amounts of dust and other lagging particles

[wanton sun]

well you can always turn it off

the dash

[alpine copper]

And a pc like mine that doesn't use a CPU/tower is not exactly powerful

Well maybe that is not the appropiate way to describe it

But ya know what I mean

[outer cedar]

I have a feeling that saying that "I genuinely think that some of the sprites in calamity are too detailed" in suggestions will end me

Here comes the tidal wave of hate

[worthy fiber]

I mean if you can make it nice, why not?

[outer cedar]

Because I try to preserve any pathetic amount of self-esteem that I can muster

[worthy fiber]

[outer cedar]

Yeah
It be like that

[worthy fiber]

Cuz it do

[outer cedar]

Cuz

[sleek wigeon]

Uh

shadow key?

@ashen warren

[neon panther]

@flint igloo there’s already an upgraded optic staff dropped from clonelamitas

[flint igloo]

Ah

Ok

Maybe a different idea?

[neon panther]

but ye blighted lens does need some more recipes

[sleek wigeon]

I mean

tbf

normal lenses are used in like

3 recipes?

[neon panther]

blighted sunglasses when

[sleek wigeon]

Yes tbh

Aviators made of blighted lenses

[flint igloo]

Hehe

[shadow prism]

what

[quiet abyss]

@hybrid cipher

[neon panther]

save us

[quiet abyss]

https://gyazo.com/22aacb78360e623929199c6ce25e9ab0
https://gyazo.com/e7d726949972857a64f9cf11f0c5d9a3

[ashen warren]

smh

[worthy fiber]

🤔

[ashen warren]

@pulsar hollow Yeah can you not do that?

[shadow prism]

Lightning Dagger
Made from 10 souls of sight + 2 essences of eleum + 5 aerialite bars at a hardmode anvil

Throwing weapon that throwing a lightning dagger that leaves behind a trail of electricity
Gives souls of sight (without other souls) another use besides speed blaster and optic staff

[low hedge]

sounds nice

[quiet abyss]

Hang on

Essences of eleum are associated with ice, I don't think it'll work for lightning dagger
Essences of cinder would work better, as being associated with heat are atleast somewhat related to electricity, since electricity is very hot and all that
Edit: Nvm eleum also works

[tired haven]

I could go rarted and say eleum-ice-water-clouds-electricity but yknow

[quiet abyss]

I think I'm the rarted one here now that you said that

[tired haven]

May have skipped water btw as ice crystals in clouds are ones that produce electricity

And no, cinder-electricity still makes more sense

[quiet abyss]

Eeyup, looks like I'm the rarted one here

[worthy raptor]

wait what the H that's super similar to a weapon I was thinking up yesterday

[ashen warren]

The devs put the armor post ML due to it being way overpowered

[cyan lagoon]

Xeroc armor was indeed preml before the abyss uodate

[ashen warren]

I think it should be nerfed a bit, as vanilla armors are a good post ML armor.

Xerox gives you 2 buffs if you are damaged that boosts attack stats

So I think there should be a tier of armor in between moonlord, besides ataxia. Because there are so many bosses, and I just think this way... I don't know how to describe it fully.

[sinful violet]

I was gonna say, lomp

[shadow prism]

ataxia is really good tho

[ashen warren]

I understand this, but I still want it to be nerfed a bit, and moved pre ML. (Opinion.)

Ataxia is pretty good awesome

Infinite fire ring

[shadow prism]

xeroc is like lunar armor for throwers

[ashen warren]

Meh, it's decent.

Well then, nerf it.

[shadow prism]

nerfing it doesn’t solve anything

ataxia is perfectly viable for ml

[ashen warren]

The one thing the devs are really annoyed by

Buff/Nerf this suggestions

Well, it's just an opinion.

I don't see a point of arguing any longer, but I get where you're coming from.

Mk

I will just justify my reason here: There are so many bosses post golem, between Lunatic, so it would be nice to have somethin' new before ML.

There we go.

Uh

So Many Bosses > Only 3

[shadow prism]

Plaguenade
Summons a swarm of infected bees
Made from 100 beenades + 1 plague cell canister at a hardmode anvil (makes 100)

Serves as a beenade upgrade and an option for throwers post golem

[ashen warren]

Ha

I love it

Except the amount of beenades

Goliath, duke, ravager, lunatic cultist. The ataxia kind of falls short after LC.

[night cradle]

bees come back again

[ashen warren]

But, I just don't want to argue.

Duke Fishron is anytime post wot

It's supposed to be fought after golem.

People fight it post Mech Boss

With Adamantite

Or Titanium

Yes, but it is hard.

People do that in vanilla.

It’s hard post Golem

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Wait, I thought I said I didn't want to argue anymore. 🤔

Well, sorry for this.

Oofles

Just a thought I had.

It’s all gud my man/gal

Man.

Okek

Well, have a good day.

Ok

It’s night for me, but that is

*thanks

Ah, it's 12 for me. (PM.)

So mid-day. Have a good night rest.

Maybe change the amount of beenades to 50. Cause that’s a lot of Queen Bees still

And Thankyou sir

Yeah, it is. I think maybe 25 would be good.

@shadow prism

[shadow prism]

changed it

[ashen warren]

Alrighty

Thanks for giving constructive criticism. But I do think it would be a good idea to have an armor in between LC and ML. Or maybe a new armor?

Mmm, depends

[neon panther]

25 beenades + 1 canister = 100 nades shouldnt it be 25 = 25

[ashen warren]

Ooofle

[shadow prism]

it’s to avoid excessive queen bee farming

bc otherwise that’s a lot of qb’s

[neon panther]

i think generating 75 nades out of nowhere is a bit much

[ashen warren]

Nerf it to 50 Plaguenades

[shadow prism]

done

[neon panther]

it just doesn't make sense to me

maybe have witch doctor sell beenades in HM and have it be 50 for 50

or 100 for 100

[shadow prism]

it’s not consumable now

[ashen warren]

Perfection

Infinite Bees

Wait, I just realized

That would outclass the Swarmer

[shadow prism]

it doesn’t have a damage value rn

that can be changed to balance it

[neon panther]

let's see whos version wins or if staff will make me delete mine

[ashen warren]

@neon panther i mean you could've just told him and not made a completely new suggestion

[neon panther]

I did tell him

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

oh

Thank you guys, for the upvotes.

[ashen warren]

@sleek wigeon Already had that discussion, the result was 'Useful, but not required'.

if i'm marked busy i'm either actually busy or KO so sorry for taking so long to reply

[radiant meadow]

so, essentially you want to completely render demonshade useless (even though it already is)?

[alpine garnet]

might as well have some boss to use tesla on in a normal progression playthrough, wouldn't have anything currently

[sleek wigeon]

I mean

soon you'll have calamitas

since shes becoming a not superboss

iirc

[alpine garnet]

by then we'll have draedon post-yharon

so the ore from yharon would be used for a boss decently far down progression

and yharon would need a new armor set

since it's yharon->draedon->scal

[sleek wigeon]

That wouldnt make any since

especially with scal steeping down to normal boss

[radiant meadow]

with scal stepping down, dev gear is pushed back which includes demonshade, right?

[sinful violet]

that hasn't been decided

demonshade is pretty SCal centric, so it might just be changed a bunch

[alpine garnet]

demonshade's prob still same if I had to guess, but idk for sure

prob gonna have draedon progression so if dev stuff is buffed might stay the same

but with demonshade likely post-scal, auric change wouldn't make sense

[radiant meadow]

this sky's helping lift is like brimrose but an accessory and with lasers?

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren
There are a few mounts with infinite flight already, and also Supreme Calamitas drops aren't really allowed, gotta come up with a different source for it

[radiant meadow]

also, that 5/50 is bothering me 😰

[hollow shell]

(yeah that's just 1/10)

[dull kite]

when you cant do 4rd grade math

[radiant meadow]

hey, respect other people's ages and math levels

[ashen warren]

oh... thats dissapointing @hollow shell

;c

well thanks . . . for telling me

Brimmy drops the brimrose mount post-providence

So you can use that

[hollow shell]

Don't forget Cosmic Car Key either

[ashen warren]

ew slow

[hollow shell]

Brimrose is just faster

yeah

You can edit your suggestion to have the thing be obtained from somewhere else, Toujou
Like a crafting recipe (as long as it doesn't use Shadowspec Bars)

[radiant meadow]

shrimpy truffle's another vanilla option too that's even slower

[sleek wigeon]

Slow good for building sometime

[plush remnant]

Brimling best pet tbh

[potent vortex]

Aren't 5/50 just 1/10 (10%)

[ashen warren]

Yes

[ashen warren]

[bitter topaz]

i'm on the edge about this tbh

it's free damage for no-hits, which could lead to it being banned

but on the otherhand it's a nice risk reward accessory for boss fights

maybe a little too punishing in death, but then again everything 3-4 hits you already so you just effectively lose 1 hit

[supple moon]

is it better now

[quiet abyss]

Alright, I have a few things to say about this "Song of Memories" suggestion
1.) "In death , getting hit boost adrenaline rate by 35%."
Now that one needs a bit of clarification
-By that, does it mean it get boost by 35% instead of resetting to zero? Like say, if you have 50% adrenaline charge and get hit, you'll have 85% instead of resetting to zero?
-Or does it reset to 0% like normal, but you get 35% after so it's more like making adrenaline reset to 35% instead of 0%?
Either way, that one is pretty iffy for me.
If it's the former, then that'll be stupidly overpowered
If it's the latter, then it'll still be quite a bit overpowered
35% charge time is very powerful
That's 15.75 seconds if your adrenaline charge time is 45 seconds, 12.25 seconds if it's 35, 8.75 seconds if it's 25, and 7 seconds if it's 20.
2.) " Made out of music boxes"
Specify that one a bit: How many music boxes? All of them? Or just some?
If some, which ones?
Also, saying when it can be obtained (Like is it hm, post-ml etc.) would be nice, since 30% damage boost is quite massive even if it's a high risk high reward accesssory, and having it be obtainable anytime earlier than post-ml would be a bit too much even with the rev+ cap imo.
3.) "...has a chance of boosting the damage you take by 50% (70% in rev and 95% in death)."
A chance to take more damage? That makes me think of blood pact, if I'll be honest
...Except that this accessory doesn't double hp like blood pact does, so this can actually be even worse, depending on how much this chance is.

I may have been missing smth, or maybe I'm looking too deep into this, but overall I'm quite unsure and iffy with this one

[ruby cobalt]

95% damage increase in death

So alright, look at it this way.

You already take 65% extra damage.

So that means you'll take 160% EXTRA damage.

Which also means that your 35% adrenaline boost will proc once or twice at most, granted you don't die in a singular hit.

[ashen warren]

How many suggestions have we had so far to add “stained, brutal calamity” to the game so far?

[quiet abyss]

While that's true, this item kinda seems like a "gamble whether you win-or-lose" to me

[ruby cobalt]

More like gamble whether you lose-lose.

[quiet abyss]

...Ye that

[ruby cobalt]

In its essence it's a cross necklace with 30% damage increase.

Which sounds extremely stupid to me, but I'll let that slip.

[quiet abyss]

Say, is player's invincibility time decrease in expert?

[ruby cobalt]

Nope, shouldn't.

[quiet abyss]

"The Cross Necklace is a Hardmode accessory that doubles the duration of the invincibility a player is afforded after taking damage, from 2/3 of a second to 4/3 seconds"
This song of memories say "+20 i frames"
...Which is 1/3 of a second
So it boost from 2/3 second i frames to 1 second, or 3/3 if you wanna go with that
....It's worse than cross

@ashen warren "Ceaseless void is on its final invulnerability phase? Bring in the final sentinel."
...CV is always the first out of the three sentinels to spawn in DoG's fight

[ashen warren]

Wait

Oops

Hold on

[opal barn]

Oh me likey that dog change

[ashen warren]

Thanks!

[quiet abyss]

It's nice, ye
Though I do hope by close to death it's "They're about to die in less than 3 seconds"
Cause I wouldn't like it if Signus spawns for long enough to spawn in cosmic mines while I'm trying to dodge storm weaver

[ashen warren]

Now it’s in the right order

Oof yeah no I don’t want them to spawn that far from death

[opal barn]

Maybe like 25%?

[quiet abyss]

Okay good

25% sounds reasonable enough

[ashen warren]

40% in death mode

[quiet abyss]

That's still quite reasonable actually
2nd phase of storm weaver tend to die in less than 3 seconds after it's at 40% hp anyway

[ashen warren]

You know, I forgot how frail storm weaver is

[quiet abyss]

Ye, it's pretty frail
Especially when you realize that, even outside of DoG's fight, his 1st phase dies pretty quickly by just grazing his tail with Shredder

[ashen warren]

Only issue is in death mode when he becomes a smol boi

Good luck hitting him then except it’s still pretty easy

[quiet abyss]

Being small boi in death mode isn't that much of a problem
He still dies pretty quickly, plus it's easy to hit him since he's charging straight for you in death
If you can't even aim at smth that's literally charging straight at you...well uhhhhh
Stop playing this game

[ashen warren]

If your biggest problem is aiming though, you’ve done a great job to make it to the sentinels in death mode

[quiet abyss]

[quiet abyss]

@digital sparrow First, in next update roar is already planned to be played at beginning of phase 2, instead of playing at 25% hp like it currently does now.
Second, you have already killed Yharon. It would make no sense to suddenly make Yharon appear again during Yharim's fight, as the sole reason Yharim is fighting you in the first place is that you have killed his dear companion

[digital sparrow]

Oh, at the beginning of phase 2 is even better

I just made the concept because I was playing MP and roar felt like a stop in the music because he died before it went into the actual song

[bitter topaz]

lorde
ew

[quiet abyss]

https://gyazo.com/748dc4070567d392aa75332813b4fcfd

Oh dear

That formatting

[unreal mason]

...

[ruby cobalt]

Ask dooglett if you want a specific version

[unreal mason]

It got ruined.

@ruby cobalt who?

[split hatch]

Just use shift + enter

[ruby cobalt]

@rich prawn

[rich prawn]

i don't have everything tho

[split hatch]

The ablility to get old versions of the Calamity Mod should be done. Why, you may ask? 4 reasons.

1. So people, like me, with the gog version can use its tmodloaderand actually be able to play close to what it is now.
2. For trying out the same versions as play throughs you would see if you looked at old videos.
3. Because I liked (and probally some others liked) the old look of some of the bosses, and some of the boss fights themselves.
4. LORDE, never got to fight it.

[ruby cobalt]

At least you have some of them.

[split hatch]

that's better readability

[hollow shell]

What's up with the GOG version that you need an older version of the Calamity Mod to play?

[unreal mason]

Fixed the mess (never knew hat trick, shift + enter i mean)

[split hatch]

😀 👍

[hollow shell]

you didn't though it's still bad

[rich prawn]

i mean at some point a website where you could download old versions was considered but it ded i think

[unreal mason]

@hollow shell the tmodloader isn't updated for gog, and is now abandoned. I don't have the steam version, so, no calamity for me, unless an old version is used. (needs to work with Terraria v1.3.4.4: TMLGOGPatch_0.9.2.3)

[hollow shell]

@signal ibex Profaned Crags is called the Brimstone Crag now

Oh dang, didn't know bout that

[signal ibex]

Well my mistake.

[ashen warren]

I don't think underworld enemies can spawn above the underworld height limit

[hollow shell]

Boffin could find a way

Also a version of Calamity from before the most recent Terraria update would be
like
a really old version

Like a Prepare to Die/Cry Mode version, possibly even before

[ashen warren]

Basically a lot of the cool stuff would be gone

[unreal mason]

Probally, but that would be nice to have anyway

[ashen warren]

Just so you know @unreal mason... a lot of the previous versions can’t legally be posted due to copyright infringements in the old soundtrack

[hollow shell]

(also lmao Kosaku you changed every "profaned" into "brimstone" except for the actual name of the crags)

[signal ibex]

I'm blind.

[hollow shell]

Aight slow down there buckaroo, put em in a doc if you're gonna make 5 suggestions in a row

[signal ibex]

I'm finished.

;/

[hollow shell]

Aight

[unreal mason]

@ashen warren that is (probably) true, but theoretically, all the copyrighted soundtracks can be removed before being posted publicly.. I have no idea if that would break anything though.

[shadow prism]

Give bumblebirb a new attack where he’ll hover in the air and flap his wings really fast to make wind that slows the player like sandstorms do, and while doing this he either shoots feathers at the player or summons mini birbs. During this attack he would also gain a large amount of DR/def (not enough to reduce all damage to 1/2 but still a significant amount).
It’s just one attack, but it would spice up the fight, which is currently just “spam homing and circle,” a little.

[ashen warren]

That sounds like pain to code

[hollow shell]

I wouldn't think of the Birb as having strong enough wings to pull that off

[ashen warren]

Also that

[hollow shell]

Coding probably wouldn't be a problem

[sleek wigeon]

If its possible to set wind direction for an attack, coding wouldnt be a problem since you could just apply mighty wind

[radiant meadow]

" prevents active rage from being drained when damaged" what does this mean?

do you not get rage from taking damage?

this accessory should probably only increase stuff that boosts rage like thrown flails, swung flails (except Mourningstar), and arkhalis/murasama as well.

Launched flails like golem's fist and tumbleweed shouldn't get dmg boost

[cyan lagoon]

No

It stops rage from being loat while active

[radiant meadow]

where in progression should these accessories be gotten?

[cyan lagoon]

Probably around early HM or post mechs

Since around there is when Rage and Adrenaline begin to make a big difference

[ruby cobalt]

Cob, Panic chief and adrenaline.

Drain's intended to be when it's not fully charged?

[cyan lagoon]

Yes

[ruby cobalt]

I'm contemplating whether moving the drain over to both when it's active and not is a bad decision or not.

[cyan lagoon]

The bracer is pretty much built for true melee players

Though I feel the cons may outweigh the pros

[ruby cobalt]

Wanna buff it? Halve the DR and triple rage gain.

[split hatch]

These are very interesting suggestions.

[hybrid cipher]

@cyan lagoon upvoted panic just for the name
puns are good™

[tired haven]

Scaling was removed for a reason + there is no postML tier leggies so that comparison doesn't really make sense?

[hollow shell]

@hybrid cipher You starred the wrong message for Spook-eko Toujou
Not that it matters much cuz the transfer process is manual now, but that suggestion also is an SCal drop which iirc isn't allowed

[delicate raft]

Weapons do 4000 damage?

[hollow shell]

DPS

I assume

[hybrid cipher]

o

[tired haven]

Yeah, dps quite likely

[radiant meadow]

besides, a legendary scaling suggestion was already forwarded to the devs iirc

[tired haven]

eat your leggies

[radiant meadow]

It was like a week or two ago I think

[delicate raft]

It won't get in tho

[radiant meadow]

I know, but the post still got 50+ stars.

[lusty idol]

Do posts get checkmarked anymore?

[ashen warren]

I am pretty sure that posts only get check-marked if they really appeal to the person that does it. I'm not always right, though.