yeah no problem
#suggestions-discussion
neon panther
alpine copper
I got like 28 stars on that one so it's worth reposting
sleek wadi
Change "5 of each fragment" to "5 Galactica Singularites". We have that item specifically for recipes that'd ask for all fragments.
alpine copper
True
hollow shell
You actually need 50 stars now
gusty geode
I'm sorry what
hollow shell
pins
spark flax
oh shit Shadowflame Cores has over 50 stars.... my first suggestion... im so proud
shadow prism
solstice intentionally uses 5 of each to represent the 4 seasons
sleek wadi
Sounds like an awful reason and doesn't even make sense. If anything is gonna represent the seasons it'd be a Biome Blade.
Besides, the only connection I can see between the fragments and seasons is solar with summer. You'd have to stretch more than mr. fantastic to connect the other 3.
fervent zealot
really though where tf you even get the idea
the claymore probably just predates galactica singularities
alpine copper
Well use singularities then
I mean chippy once said vanilla terraria ends at moonlord
So why use fragments?
They are vanilla
Use singularities instead
sleek wigeon
@ashen warren no. End of pre hm weapons are NOT up to par with slime god stuff
spark flax
suggestion: get @paper wagon to finish typing
chilly zealot
Discord glitched out or something didn't it?
spark flax
or they started typing something then went afk
chilly zealot
It should stop after about 5 seconds if you haven't pressed any keys
Does he have spacebar weighted down or something?
Basically, what the hell is going on here?
spark flax
inb4 he fell asleep on his keyboard
chilly zealot
oh shit its spreading
paper wagon
I literally just got on here only because of the ling XD
ashen warren
That moment when you need one more vote.
chilly zealot
Apparently you got it
pseudo fossil
Seems like the revolver and the missing vote summoned those that always gets crimson worlds
shadow prism
Profaned Soul Staff
Summons the 3 Profaned Guardians to protect you
Uses 3 minions slots
Dipping sauce not included
Drops from Providence with a 16.7%/33.3% chance
night cradle
shadow prism
Healer guardian stays near the player and heals the player for 1/2 hp on hit, offense gives a small, temporary, stackable damage boost on hit for a max of +5% and defense gives temporary, stackable +1 defense on hit for a max of +10
frosty kindle
i was thinking it could be a legendary weapon from providence, knowing that summoner has no legendaries. (also, there's no rules against legendary weapon suggestions)
(so, that would make it a rare, special drop with a good purpouse)
shadow prism
that would be neat
frosty kindle
but thats just my idea for it, you can keep or change any stat to your liking
great description @shadow prism !
shadow prism
thanks
frosty kindle
(also dont self star your own suggestion, not really a good thing to do)
it wouldnt matter, since many people will slap stars on it anyways, hopefully
wanton sun
so basically remove challenge
signal ibex
Im still nerfing it down
shadow prism
3 seconds is obscene, just use apoth with it to instakill everything
wanton sun
its still a free pass for anything
not to mention you could just continuously use the yoyo and have infinite slow
thus removing literally any challenge
signal ibex
Its only slowing down the enemy on the first hit.
The rest of the hits don't slow the NPC down anymore.
wanton sun
repeatedly throw yoyo
shadow prism
is this your like 7th yoyo suggestion today
frosty kindle
Yoyo's bizzare adventure
shadow prism
LOL
signal ibex
Im gonna make every stand a yoyo.
spark flax
Please don't spam suggestions.
spark flax
Okay.
frosty kindle
it also said 1-2 suggestions at a time, which he did correctly (long delay before posting 2 suggestions again)
spark flax
Like jojo is great and all but the pins say only to submit one or two suggestions in a reasonable time period to avoid clogging suggestions
...yeah, that's true, but still
frosty kindle
the reasonable time was never specified however, from an observation
frosty kindle
ah its fine
shadow prism
Repentance
Converts fired rockets to profaned rockets fueled by the sins of the underworld
Unholy annihilation
Made from 5 unholy cores + 15 unholy essence + 3 cores of chaos at an ancient manipulator
The profaned rockets themselves inflict abyssal flames for 2 seconds, and they have a large explosion radius. The explosion inflicts brimstone flames for 2 seconds
signal ibex
wanton sun
or, he's trying to get constructive criticism before putting it there?
signal ibex
!
spark flax
@shadow prism
On one hand I really like this because rockets definitely need more love: calamity only adds seven rocket launchers and four of them are pre-Moonlord. the profaned rockets are a nice touch and i'd definitely upvote the idea
but on the other hand, tiny minor complaint: you might want to change it a little bit as it's made immediately before Providence, who also drops a rocket launcher which does large explosion radius (the Blissful Bombardier). maybe higher DPS at the cost of not having the homing multi-explosion thing or something? idk, just a suggestion!
signal ibex
Mhm.
quiet abyss
...13% to all stats? From blood moon?
And pre-boss as well?
Seems a bit overpowered to me.
Even with 5% drop chance
signal ibex
Forgot to add Hardmode
quiet abyss
Ah, well in that case it's not so bad
deep cape
wanton sun
not to mention people zerg the blood moon every time
potent vortex
Does that seem a little bit over powered
spark flax
yeah, it seems way too overpowered to me
5% chance during blood moon is far more than you'd think (i find my inventory getting flooded by money troughs and sharktooth necklaces every time i blood moon, especially when i zerg, and those are only like 2% drop chance from CERTAIN blood moon enemies), and 16% increase to damage and critical hit rate is already amazing imo, especially premoon lord
then add in increased damage reduction, defense, movement speed, and free minions (the three zombies) and just
Kind Of Excessive
like you could probably tone it down to just
"13% increased overall damage, summons two zombies to defend you. 0.5% chance to be dropped by any enemy during a Blood Moon in Hardmode"
then it's basically a slightly better Avenger Emblem that also has a fungal clump/waifu-accessory-esque free summon addition.
idk that's just my suggestion
quiet abyss
^ Ye that would be best
I didn't have a clear head atm so I thought this suggestion was alright
But now that I do ye it is quite overpowered
spark flax
but yeah i'd also quickly like to say that i am available for anyone who needs constructive feedback on their suggestions
i'll try my best, at least
spark flax
speaking of which, i have a new concept i'd like to share with y'all here before i drop it in Suggestions proper
Emblem in a Molotov
Don't actually throw it
What it does: +15% Throwing damage, +5% Throwing critical hit chance. Thrown weapons inflict On Fire and have fire particles around them a la Magma Glove
How to make it: 1 of any of the four basic Emblems + 1 Molotov Cocktail @ Anvil
Why it should be added: Well, as someone mentioned earlier in the chat, Thrown has an altogether lack of accessories, and as someone else noted, there should be a Thrown Emblem. So I got to thinking, where does Thrown lack in accessories and power? The answer was clear: Early hardmode. So instead of getting a direct fifth emblem, Thrown gets something a little more unique, with slight buffs that raise it above what a regular emblem would do, without making it too overpowered. Plus, the "in a Molotov" part of the name sounds like the whole "[x] in a Bottle" jump accessories, and I thought that was funny.
all thoughts welcome!
signal ibex
Thank you for pointing it out.
wanton sun
That's pretty good actually
Since a few Spears are added in calamity
And also gives you a reason to make the heart rapier (what is it called again)
quiet abyss
@glossy wind That one has been suggested by a lot of people already iirc. So no need to suggest it again.
You don't have to delete it tho, just leave it there
glossy wind
awwh im sorry, rather new here so please forgive ;-;
quiet abyss
It's alright
glossy wind
quiet abyss
It's fine, honestly.
No need to feel bad about it
tired haven
How about making it a helicopter summon?
radiant meadow
Where in progression would our little helicopter/aeroplane be?
tired haven
I mean currently it is post 1 mech
radiant meadow
oh wait, they added to their suggestion
quiet abyss
"15 aerialite bars, 20 feathers, 25 souls of flight, 20 hallow bars, 5 essences of cinder, 20 wires"
I'm a bit okay with souls of flight, essences of cinder and wires amounts, but might wanna tone down the rest
Aerialite around 10 bars at most
Hallowed around 10 bars at most too
And...why is feather a material?
signal ibex
It flies.
radiant meadow
that's a lot of feathers too
quiet abyss
...That's what soul of flights are for
Feathers don't = because it can fly
That's like saying an airplane requires feathers to build
signal ibex
Why doesnt my brain work today.
quiet abyss
We all have those kind of days, it's alright 
signal ibex
Also why are all my suggestions JoJo references ;-;
quiet abyss
Prolly cause you like jojos a lot
quiet abyss
Ye they are
Calamity mod on its own has a lot of references already
signal ibex
Phew.
quiet abyss
Murasama is MGR reference, so is the quote "Don't get cocky, kid!" that DoG says etc.
radiant meadow
You mean like an entire mode?
quiet abyss
And revengeance mode, which is a reference to MGR's....well, revengeance mode
signal ibex
Someone is.
radiant meadow
Maybe it could be randomized on whether it's a plane or a helicopter kind of like spider and pirate staff
signal ibex
Aight
wanton sun
man you're really pushing out jojo "content" huh
wanton sun
why
signal ibex
I don't even know why myself.
wanton sun
so whats the point
signal ibex
In order to add more references to this mod. (Whoa i found a reason)
radiant meadow
I mean, most minions at that point of the game are charging minions anyways. ice clasper, aquatic star, half of the optic
more projectile minions would be cool especially if the bullets don't pierce
radiant meadow
hover above enemy like xeno?
radiant meadow
well, xeno's are good so the plane/helicopter minions would probably be good too
signal ibex
The plane would occasionally dive down.
wanton sun
why does the mod need references to anything
thin nymph
so many yoyo stuff
signal ibex
Wait d4c would better as accessory.
night bane
you gonna make every stand into something?
signal ibex
night bane
I approve
night bane
signal ibex
Im gonna turn D4C into a life saving accessory.
quiet abyss
I can understand liking yoyos
But uh...maybe pace the suggestions a bit
Suggesting too many will clog up the channel
signal ibex
Because the yoyo's are too damn much.
wanton sun
thats 9 today.
thin nymph
i dont like yoyos that much oof
signal ibex
I better remove some of them.
quiet abyss
Nono
Don't remove
Just leave them there
But remember to try to tone it down next time
signal ibex
Alright.
neon panther
excuse me what the fuck
neon panther
for one, only suggestions should be in #suggestions-voting
that comment should belong in here
signal ibex
It was unfinished
neon panther
then dont post it
signal ibex
I accidently pressed ENTER
bitter topaz
type in a google doc first, and then copy/paste the suggestion when it's done
signal ibex
Im gonna do that now.
bitter topaz
this is the second time you've done this smh
elder sparrow
i really like the guy's exploration suggestion
signal ibex
Its a music reference :/
neon panther
if you say so
hollow shell
@signal ibex I'm gonna have to ask you to slow down
signal ibex
Its technically september 30.
hollow shell
what
signal ibex
Oh nvm.
hollow shell
But yeah you're postin a lot of suggestions buddy
You should put remaining ideas you come up with into a doc and just update that, so you don't take up exposure space for others
hollow shell
np
quiet abyss
@signal ibex Dude I can't even get in the document
Go set it so that other people can view
hollow shell
what
signal ibex
Oh nvm i just forgot how DOCS work.
vital grotto
my guy this stuff belongs in a Jojo mod not Calamity
signal ibex
References exist.
radiant meadow
or ten
vital grotto
no
radiant meadow
think of all the metal gear rising references in this mod
murasama, draedon's heart, dog flavor text, revengeance mode, health bars, and probably more
vital grotto
that's true
but most of those arent items
well
draedon's heart just has a tooltip for nanomachines
ruby cobalt
Heart and Murasama.
vital grotto
dog text is just text
either way
i think that makes Calamity have plenty of references already
ruby cobalt
There's an unspoken rule for these things by the way.
If you want to make a suggestion JUST for the reference - 👉 🚪
vital grotto
yeah
ruby cobalt
@night cradle bulbs spawn from the start of HM.
night cradle
oh 
ruby cobalt
Killing mechs just sends the spawnrate through the roof.
night cradle
is it okay now?
ruby cobalt
Remove Calamitas part, dungeon's unfortunately hardcoded.
night cradle
ah okay
radiant meadow
although you can still get ectoplasm post cal from eidolists
night cradle
ye
ruby cobalt
Eidolists are coded to spawn after WoF dies btw.
night cradle
but you can't get keybrand, magnet sphere and other HM dungeon items from normal Dungeon
ruby cobalt
Or, are they?
The thing is, they're not native dungeon mobs, so they are excluded from the clusterfuck of a spawn list that is post-plant dungeon.
And adding a drop after specific boss dies isn't that hard, but dungeon's a special case here.
radiant meadow
eidolists only drop ectoplasm post cal/plant though
ashen warren
(I know the rules say no new roles under joke suggestions, but this one is a serious one not a meme I promise)
bitter topaz
untouchable/DI ripperless isn't exactly too hard vs normal untouchable/DI ngl
radiant meadow
It should probably be limited to only death mode since rev is doable without adrenaline or rage
bitter topaz
the only proper challenge would be clone and yharon
everything else would just take slightly longer
radiant meadow
only slightly? dog took like 6 minutes for Terry to do on death iirc
ruby cobalt
Old DoG which doesn't have a different AI on second phase.
And also doesn't have sentinels phase.
radiant meadow
oh yeah, that vid was old; new DoG will take even longer
radiant meadow
"bosses mostly unrelated to Calamitas" I think the entire Brimstone Elemental story is about how Calamitas burned her home and stole her power or something.
although I agree that souls should be removed from eye of desolation recipe
although the dragon egg alternate recipes should be made at draedon's forge like the current one
sleek wadi
That was more so to let someone tackle Yharon without killing the sentinels and DoG
ashen warren
WOOHOO, FINALLY GOT 50.
sleek wadi
Atleast for the oversized moth egg variant
radiant meadow
there's no point to killing yharon pre dog though is there cuz the dragon sends you back to beat up dog and providence if you haven't done it yet
does yharon drop treasure if you beat it without beating providence/dog?
sleek wadi
Yes
heady comet
Tbh reinstate strict progression
sleek wadi
How strict we talking though, vanilla strict or "kill the mech in a certain order" strict?
ruby cobalt
Bring back old progression, instructions for the new one are unclear 
heady comet
Tbh leviathan prehm boss too hard
alpine copper
2 more stars and I'll have my first suggestion into the mod server
sleek wadi
Not how that works me thinks
heady comet
New requirement is 50 stars
alpine copper
Meh whatever then
thin nymph
50 stars?
ruby cobalt
50 stars.
alpine copper
Check pings
vital grotto
ok
first off
no
we dont need more yoyos
secondly
we dont need more terra weapons
thirdly
vital grotto
im sorry but that suggestion is really boring and unoriginal
vital grotto
if you were to make a terra yoyo, you should have at least gone with the tradition of combining the Cryonic, Perennial, and Chaos weapons to make it
imo
what we need is more "rod" weapons
like Sky Dragon's Fury or Typhon's Greed
spice cedar
Dev summoner weapon.
hollow shell
@ashen warren Can't suggest dev items
dull kite
also no low effort suggestions
ashen warren
Okay, it was just an idea.
ashen warren
Okay, thanks for not just being rude to me.
radiant meadow
most recent suggestion says make scal not invisible when charging, but I thought she turned invisible to telegraph her charges?
heady comet
Smh already suggested by me
terse rain
As the devs are redoing Supreme Calamitas, suggestions on her current state are most likely not going to matter.
ashen warren
To show that she gonna charge
Which I like
But I think she fades a little too much
acoustic cedar
Some more spears, there's a solid 4-5 spears pre hardmode with large gaps between Eoc and Perforators/Hive mind.
vital grotto
that would be good
acoustic cedar
And theres another large gap between skeletron and Wof
shadow prism
Sonar Cannon
Converts gel into powerful sonar waves that stick to and outline terrain with aquatic energy
It detecc
Made from 1 sulphuric acid cannon + 50 purified gel + 30 lumenyl + 20 depth cells + 15 tenebris + 5 cosmilite bars
It’s a flamethrower that outlines blocks with temporary, extremely powerful abyss-styled gel, illuminating the surrounding area
Sulphuric acid cannon is awful rn compared to the other post polter abyss weapons (eidolic wail is pretty good if you use it right), and it serves to light up the abyss and make terrain easier to see
acoustic cedar
And maybe another accessory that sort of acts as way to make true melee spears viable, After u swing the spear, a sort of afterimage/hologram of the spear would appear ahead of the spear would poke out to give them more effective range. There could be different tiers of it so u could have a form of it throughout the entire game without it getting obsolete and it would overall increase the usability of spears throughout the entire game.
vital grotto
that part might be hard to do
acoustic cedar
yea but its just a suggestion
hollow shell
@ashen warren I hope you know of Legendarys' past
ashen warren
Wait really? Why’d they get rid of it?
ashen warren
Okay that’s a pretty good reason to get rid of it
cyan lagoon
Getting one meant you could just carry through the entire game with it
And they dropped from regular enemies before then
hollow shell
Yeah they wanted people to have more variety in their playthroughs
Other than just
getting Briny Baron and using it for literally all Post-ML bosses
ashen warren
But couldn’t the scaling have been rebalanced? So maybe the prehardmode bosses drop ones that stop being really worth it once hardmode rolls around?
hollow shell
Hm?
ashen warren
Basically they’d stop being buffed by boss defeats after certain bosses, they reach their peak.
Or... make them upgradeable like other weapons?
cyan lagoon
Huh
lost agate
What do you mean?
radiant meadow
I think they mean like if you get legendary Crabulon weapon for example, it'll stop scaling once you get to say Cryogen or Wall of Flesh whereas Blossom Flux might stop scaling at like Providence, and maybe the scaling should not be as strong so they remain on tier with other weapons.
lost agate
@hollow shell what do you mean?
hollow shell
No animation?
lost agate
I swear she had none
Just a single sprite
And all the other ones have some sort of movement
While idle or whatever
Unless its very subtle and i didnt notice?
Did i explain myself now?
hollow shell
Yes.
But, she is not a moving png.
She has a full animation, I'm surprised you didn't notice it
lost agate
The rare one movement is pretty obvious
But the new normal one, not as much
Unless im a little bugged
hollow shell
Her tornado lower half spins violently
and she wobbles back and forth
Not as obvious as Rare's, which has a clear distinct object moving up and down
but
it's something
lost agate
.... This could very well be a weird bug or im really blind
lost agate
You know what?
Imma erase that and check for myself
hollow shell
Do please check
lost agate
Done
hollow shell
If it is indeed unanimated, post in #bugs-read-pins
lost agate
Yeah, imma check that later
proven tide
@wind flicker Unlimited is a bit far, though
wind flicker
yeah, it was just a suggestion, it could of course be different. It would basically be 100%, since above that wouldn't matter
radiant meadow
umm, I think the caps should be unlimited prehardmode, 100% hardmode, and 75% post ML
hollow shell
Just say 100%
radiant meadow
or ^
radiant meadow
yeah
little jolt
getting crits 100% post ml is crazy
wind flicker
happens all the time in expert
worthy raptor
@ashen warren no advertising please, you were already warned so that goes up to a mute
wind flicker
F
lost agate
Wasted
lost agate
More simple, if it lags, stop using it 
sleek wigeon
^
spark flax
honestly i like the Runic Cyclone idea, Flails need more love overall
elder sparrow
wtf people want scaling back
proven tide
noo what happened to the siglance
signal ibex
Because im gonna use the chain guillotine for another idea.
Oh nvm i just realized the guillotines are more suitable.
proven tide
Holy shit
alright can we get a mod in here
because I don't know how to handle this
inner rover
is the name bad?
worthy fiber
...yeah
bitter topaz
what the hell
inner rover
sorry
quiet abyss
...When I first saw it and you deleted it I thought it's a meme suggestion
You scared the fuck outta me 
inner rover
I wasnt trying to offend nobody
quiet abyss
Eh, it's fine...anyways.
From what I can understand it's a new mechanic
And well...we already have rage and adrenaline to keep track of
So kinda unnecessary
inner rover
name needs changing to avoid any more offended peeps
there, now called full-fury
yeah, i gotta be more careful with names...
wise pollen
What was the name before? I just barely missed it
inner rover
not saying it on here
proven tide
oh my god deletus
bitter topaz
so in otherwords dumb and childish
wise pollen
Yeah that's a bit dodgy
proven tide
@bitter topaz deletus
quiet abyss
Personally indifferent about the idea, but I'll star it and see what others think
proven tide
I love it TBH
wanton sun
I don't really think it would be balanced
Hey are you dying a lot? Well here's the free pass you need
I'm probably not the best to talk about it since I'm sick and tired of rev scal but I just don't think it would be appreciated well
proven tide
Hey, he didn't specify how much of an increase it is
It's not like an instakill buff, just an adren-ish boost, probably
inner rover
it can also be used to clear large groups of enemies if you have to
keep in mind you die instantly if hit during full fury's effect
spice pier
What about a portable hellevator
Its like a grenade
But it actually blows a hole
Straight down
inner rover
that might be a bit of a pain to program, but you could slap it into suggestions to see what other's think
spice pier
Its so annoying to dig holes
inner rover
I normally just use many stacks of bombs/dynamite
spice pier
Like it too me hours using a crystyl crusher on a large world to make a 30 block hellevator
That works
But I like even clean holes
inner rover
i am not always looking for perfection in everything, i just do whatever works
spice pier
I guess but I also want to be able to demolish a Terraria world
opal barn
Why not just install LuiAFK
proven tide
Because a lot of people aren't interested in the extra things it adds
chilly zealot
Or Fargo's
opal barn
You know, you can just use the hellevator from LuiAFK and then uninstall it
wanton sun
or you can just not use the other stuff*
proven tide
I'm just saying why people don't like to do that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Personally I like to put all the effort in manually
signal ibex
Is there a yoyo that is related to yharon already?
quiet abyss
Afaik nope
opal barn
Yeah, the best yoyo there is currently is from DoG
lost agate
The obliterator?
signal ibex
Damn.
spice pier
Mortar rounds
Don't really work for me
They break parts of the ground
But leave gaps
Rubber mortars are out of the question
One click with then and a halibut cannon
And my base ceased to exist
tired haven
I have severe suspicion that when balancing right-click fire rate would be cut which is not gud
And it better be cut damage
quiet abyss
Oh right, that works too
I'll just add "either lower damage or fire rate" then
thin nymph
more yoyos yey
sinful violet
Mm
Dunno if this has been discussed in that full fury idea yet, but that can probably be really abused
chilly zealot
Most definitely
sinful violet
The obvious repeated dying comes to mind
And even in hardcore, the early game bosses are really easy to buy.
chilly zealot
Even in hardcore, just kill king slime like 50 times
heady rain
I like how the counter mirror got a star but broken mirror didn't
inner rover
I should probably add - The Full-fury meter will not be available until every pre-moonlord boss is defeated. From king slime onwards until moonlord is left and defeated. Full-Fury is death-mode exclusive
THEN you can kill king slime 50 times
pseudo fossil
are yoyos a new meme?
radiant meadow
So the most recent yoyo suggestion says "more unique yoyos" when in the description it says "like the God's Gambit". What does this mean?
sleek wigeon
"an effect no other yoyo has"
ah yes, the unique effect of dripping non damaging nonsense that only gives an aesthetic debuff
Truly the golden standard of unique yoyos
shadow prism
Flask of Weakness
Melee projectiles inflict Marked for Death
Makes the user take 10% more damage
3 minute duration
Made from 1 bottle + 3 chaotic ore + 1 essence of cinder at an imbuing station
Makes melee projectiles inflict MfD for 1 second each
radiant meadow
That's not would MfD does though although it isn't a bad idea
perhaps it should be 20 minutes to fit in with vanilla flasks or 10 minutes to fit in with calamitas' brew
You may want the tooltip to say it's only useful in rev+
The only other problem I see is that it needs Reaper tooth. While this is for balancing purposes, I think dog, yharon, and providence are all immune to MfD.
shadow prism
right
radiant meadow
and I think MfD reducing dr by 50%
shadow prism
it was locked behind polter to avoid breaking the heck out of hm bosses with biome blade+
but yeah by then it loses efficacy
radiant meadow
maybe it should be with luminite ore or phantoplasm instead if providence and the sentinels aren't immune
shadow prism
changed the recipe
radiant meadow
I think that recipe is better
you made the duration even shorter? I guess it's fine with the easier recipe
shadow prism
Elysian Eye
Fires profaned blasts of energy that cripple enemy protection
Projectile damage is multiplied by all of your damage bonuses
Made from 1 lunic eye + 1 golden gun + 1 marked magnum + 10 unholy essence + 5 divine geodes at an ancient manipulator
It homes and the blasts inflict marked for death for 10 seconds, ichor for 15 seconds and cursed inferno for 7 seconds (does not explode or pierce, but does pass through blocks)
radiant meadow
not 6 seconds
lunic eye is getting buffed soon
good idea though; you might want golden gun in recipe
lost agate
radiant meadow
give the golden gun some use; it's useless right now
lost agate
Lunic eye buff, oh yes
radiant meadow
also, can you specify that the blasts don't explode like lunic eye?
the explosions on lunic eye suck cuz they pierce
cyan lagoon
Golden gun isnt useless though
Well, useless for anything that isnt summoner/thrower (corruption world)
radiant meadow
Since golden gun pierces, it almost never hits since most summons pierce.
golden gun recipe requires ichor iirc so golden shower/everglades spray/ultra liquidator is still better
radiant meadow
they do debuff summons though
summons don't get ichor
summoners don't use golden shower/spray
It may have not been like that before, but it was changed.
tired haven
Liquidator is good in terms of not being pierce, but 3 seconds is ass
ruby cobalt
Shower/Spray used to be support weapons that were left the way it were.
tired haven
Compared to 20 of everglade
tired haven
I mean golden shower is around 10, no?
tired haven
Weird, always lasted exactly 3 seconds on prov
radiant meadow
shower/spray give nerf for sure, I've tested it a couple of times
and liquidator too for that matter
ruby cobalt
Liquidator is 10s.
radiant meadow
I'm pretty sure everglades is supposed to be a direct upgrade to golden shower.
so it's normal it overshadows the shower
tired haven
Not like twice tho?
radiant meadow
what's wrong with 2 upgrades?
ruby cobalt
Everglade = 2x Shower granted you use it as a debuff weapon.
radiant meadow
nerf probably should happen though
ruby cobalt
And I don't think shower was ever intended to be used a debuff one.
tired haven
I think it kinda was intended though
Looking at how betsy's wrath was added as well
ruby cobalt
Was it, really?
If you look at relogic's logic (and there's none) you might find a couple contradictions?
radiant meadow
I think betsy's miasma in dd2 had a similar effect which is why betsy's curse lowers def by 40
tired haven
Which is pretty obsolete in vanilla btw as like only 5 or so enemies ever pass 30 def
radiant meadow
I guess dungeon guardian and expert skeletron with hands count as 2 of them?
night cradle
Oh
The first time my suggestion got 50 ⭐s since the star count need nerf 
radiant meadow
but he's not immune to ichor
tired haven
Paladin, duke, moon lord, and maybe some I missed
radiant meadow
duke is immune to betsy's curse?
tired haven
No, I meant high def
tired haven
Moon Lord is only immune to confuse iirc
thin nymph
lul
tired haven
Or 1 more debuff
radiant meadow
sounds like an interesting qol change
does cosmic kunai get destroyed?
should the box be made of cosmilite brick?
ruby cobalt
Anything that's white rarity gets destroyed.
And, you know, terraria doesn't play nice with any custom rarities.
radiant meadow
It's hard to tell the true rarity of some late game items.
change cosmolamp's rarity or give signus a cosmilite brick box is essentially the issue
tired haven
It's actually easy to tell
Custom rarity without reforge? White. Burns in lava
With reforge? Negatives and mediocres burn, others don't
fervent zealot
honestly just give the box anyways
prov has a box, wof has a box
why shouldn't sig
wanton sun
Because you shouldn't be fighting over lava anyways
ashen warren
More than 5 accessories on normal mode? Problem with that is there aren’t as many accessories available that are actually worth using anyway since they are all expert or higher...
pearl lily
I would argue that having more mods gives you more accessories to use, but at that point you could also add mods that give you more accessories, like Wing Slot
My main point was that expert mode you would have 7 accessories and in normal only 5
Having the 2 accessory gap seemed a bit obscene to me
sleek wigeon
In a mod based around higher difficulties, it seems about right to me
ashen warren
Plus Vanilla refuses to let you have extra accessories in Normal Mode
radiant meadow
If you want more accessories in normal mode, you'll just have to get the moreaccessories+mod
unique vector
@pearl lily the point of normal mode is to have less risk, less reward
besides, imo normal > expert isnt that much of a jump besides new items and more items
in the end if you want more slots but you dont want to play expert, get cheatsheet
it has a plus accessory option i think
fervent zealot
have you played regular vanilla expert
spark flax
the vanilla expert jump was pretty unforgiving first time but now im used to it
revengeance was a much easier jump. deathmode less so
pearl lily
my biggest problem with expert is the scaling bosses with multiple people
fervent zealot
scaling bosses is a hot meme
pearl lily
I like playing with my friends and it sucks because we'll try to fight a boss and just get stomped because the Eye of Cthulu has 10k health and I've got a musket
lunar berry
@wind flicker you literally just copied me and changed the name lol
dull kite
what
wind flicker
@lunar berry ???
neon panther
@lunar berry you've literally never suggested anything like that???
fervent zealot
he did but delta you're good yours is different
neon panther
"from: ``#7237 in: suggestions" im sorry i dont see anything unless im completely rarted
proven tide
^
lunar berry
@wind flicker scrolll above
Like a lot
I suggested a terra yo-yo
That had the exact same crafting recipe
Lol
But yea ur name is better
proven tide
So... that's not copying and changing the name by any means?
wind flicker
I didn't see it, but I made the crafting recipe by it being a counterpart to terra lance
lunar berry
Just a crazy coincidence
wind flicker
I mean it is the obvious thing to do, makes the most sense
proven tide
It's... not a coincidence, or crazy
lunar berry
Your name is better tho
proven tide
It's, as Delta said, the obvious thing to do
wind flicker
It is a coincidence, just a pretty likely one
lunar berry
@proven tide alright what is the chance of two different ppl suggesting the exact same thing but with a different name
proven tide
It's not the exact same thing
lunar berry
The crafting recipe is literally the same
proven tide
oh my god
wind flicker
Pretty good chance, considering the crafting recipe is obvious, its a counterpart to the terra lance
lunar berry
@wind flicker you even got the amount of living shards right
No but you might base it off something else
proven tide
a coincidence is "a remarkable occurrence of events or circumstances with no apparent causal connection"
lunar berry
Say the terra blade
wind flicker
same amount of living shards that the terra lance uses
lunar berry
Yes
wind flicker
that's what i was basing it off of
proven tide
This is not remarkable and there is a causal connection — the Terra Lance providing the numbers.
wind flicker
and i guess by definition then its not exactly a coincidence
fervent zealot
stop bickering
proven tide
It's not coincidence, it's not copying, it's just working with a format
wind flicker
yeah russian guy has a good point
fervent zealot
you both made suggestions for basicially the same thing, a terra yoyo, which is COMPLETELY unnecesary
so just shut up and be sad
wind flicker
eh i like yoyos
lunar berry
@fervent zealot how is it unnecessary
lunar berry
It isn’t necessary but not unnecessary
wind flicker
well more options are always a good thing
wind flicker
usually a good thing*
lunar berry
But calamity’s special thing is making weapons with special effects
And more options are always hood
wind flicker
i mean post-moonlord you get about 50 options
lunar berry
Good
fervent zealot
post ml needs more yoyos, not post plant
wind flicker
and I'm not complaining
lunar berry
Of weapons
wind flicker
well then that's why i suggested elemental throw
lunar berry
@fervent zealot you just said more options are bad
wind flicker
earthrift was mostly a suggestion so it would exist for elemental throw
lunar berry
I was thinking about that but I was too lazy to write it lol
lunar berry
@fervent zealot bickering about what? It was pretty much defining what a coincidence was. Also bickering isn’t always bad
fervent zealot
it's annoying, just like you pinging me
and when it's over something so trivial and it fills up that much space it's just a waste of time
fervent zealot
wasting time is bad
lunar berry
It’s not like the thing before that mattered anyway
fervent zealot
and also i don't have the channel muted so i can see when you post
lunar berry
Well we’re wasting time here so you’re being hypocritical
fervent zealot
and also considering my last post was 2 minutes before you should've known
i mean you were the one who pinged me, so it's still your bad
lunar berry
Most people don’t linger in a channel when there is no conversation for 2 mind
Mins
Just waiting for someone to type something...
fervent zealot
i'm busy fixing shit in the background, got nothin better to do, man
fervent zealot
just drop it now and stop cluttering the channel
cyan lagoon
The fuck is going on
shadow prism
go to #general-talk
strong monolith
Lol imagine claiming ownership of an IDEA
That's not copyrighted work smh
No one owns any idea until it's officially in the game
Blatant copying is still bad but no one can stop them
strong monolith
Guys everything is my idea 😎
cyan lagoon
Stop
strong monolith
Ok
hollow shell
@ashen warren Added a kinda-check to your suggestion cuz I just tacked that on to the Dev server submission
neon panther
why though
ashen warren
Sounds good
hollow shell
It had its benefits
Like I think it increased some of your stats as it went up?
neon panther
another RotJD suggestion
hollow shell
Fun fact
Fab already fixed that for the next update
neon panther
oh neat
ancient dragon
Smh spoiling the fun.
hollow shell
What's worth more
The surprise of realizing that something is fixed
or Being rid of mimic suggestions for an already-fixed issue
neon panther
you cool dudes get all the cool facts 
ancient dragon
💪
lusty idol
sleek wigeon
Whats with the blue checks?
lost agate
Forwarded but... Not as important?
I really dont know
arctic wren
So it's already being changed?
sleek wigeon
Ah just read rovers thing
arctic wren
The RoTJD thing?
ashen warren
RoTJD gets a suggestion like every... what, 6 hours? 7?
lost agate
I mean, why having a song that says how yharon is just done for it if he could still win 
hollow shell
Blue checks are for suggestions that got grouped with other successful suggestions
even if they don't necessarily meet the star requirement
It's kinda arbitrary on my part atm but I hope I can get something concrete for it in the future
tardy blaze
Are u allowed to make suggestions on things that aren’t in game yet
Like goozma yharim draedon new astral biome etc
hollow shell
Yeah you can but they're not very useful
ashen warren
devs dont take suggestions for unreleased bosses or features very seriously
hollow shell
Like "Oh yeah I have a suggestion on how Yharim will be summoned and how his defeat will play out"
Well done, you suggested something for a subject that won't be in the game for over a year, and there's already elaborate plans for that thing anyway meaning your suggestion is pretty much ignored
ashen warren
the only thing i can think of that can maybe be suggested is astral biome enemies
but beyond that its pretty much all ignored
night cradle
first actual use of lore items 
signal ibex
Do unholy cores have a summon based off them?
placid moth
ruby cobalt
Unholy cores do not have a summon.
proven tide
ohboi
ashen warren
you're not funny
proven tide
here goes
ashen warren
smh my head
tepid wadi
glossy palm
uh oh
worthy fiber
glossy palm
lost agate
Ow i didnt see it ;_;
ashen warren
I like the Lore item suggestion
Cause right now the weird energy lookin things make absolutely no sense
worthy fiber
Why can't we just have it in one book smh
ashen warren
^
worthy fiber
We could keep the wispy item thing, and when the player collects it it adds the entry into the book
cool magicky stuff
worthy fiber
I've never played starbound
ashen warren
In Starbound, the books you can find you can read and they are permanently logged in your lore tab
Yes Starbound has a lore tab
worthy fiber
huh, nice
alpine copper
Part of the star bound dev team is old terra devs so I imagine that a starbound mechanic would work well in terraria
I like it
ashen warren
I’m think of doing this with me mod I’m working on now
worthy fiber
🤔
hollow shell
@onyx wigeon
onyx wigeon
i couldnt find it before xd
hollow shell
I ain't starrin that
Didn't even include a small image of which emoji you mean, smh
onyx wigeon
sorry
hollow shell
I'd call Astrum an "it"
or, yknow, "they"
Because it's a swarm
hollow shell
What's wrong with the current lore item, Kosaku?
signal ibex
Sh- i forgot there was lore item of astrum already.
pseudo fossil
He doesnt likes slimes nor cosmic worms from what i see .-.
hollow shell
Bringing back "Death of"s
Hmm
hollow shell
Indeed
shadow prism
profaned soul staff finally got 50 stars
ashen warren
This is something I feel would make this server more fun
lost agate
Well, it isnt?
ashen warren
Well, sometimes it feels, dead serious
lost agate
People could be sleeping y'know
sleek wigeon
Calamity logo is a halloween logo
shadow prism
Brimstone’s Wrath
Fires homing brimstone hellblasts that weaken enemies’ protection
Made from 1 brimlash buster + 10 unholy essence + 5 cosmilite bars at a Draedon’s forge
Fires homing hellblasts that look similar to the ones in scal’s first bullet hell
The blasts move extremely quickly and inflict abyssal flames for 3 seconds and armor crunch for 2 seconds
Post DoG melee is currently incredibly lackluster compared to other classes, so this serves as an alternative to galaxia that fires projectiles faster and weakens enemies
opal barn
Crag's Fury makes it sound like it's a Brimstone Fury upgrade tbh
sleek wigeon
Could use an autotrash mod @humble island
humble island
Didnt know those were a thing
lost agate
I thought dev items couldnt receive changes
worthy raptor
If they're specifically only changeable by the dev they're made for then that's fair, just the way red sun is designed makes it kinda useless for the one boss it's kinda tiered for. Plus idk if that would just be for rework changes or slight changes, I just want the projectiles to not be garbo. But ye if that's not allowed i'll remove it
Not really sure what all the dev item rules are
lost agate
Admin is not even sure what the dev items rule is
Would you look at that 
I dont really know neither
worthy raptor
Tbf I never do anything in suggestions unless someone pings me
I just sit in clamity talk and help and advice
lost agate
I think the only reason its like that is because " those are dev items and you cant change them because theyre made the way those devs like them" or something like that
worthy raptor
Ye understandable I mostly just wanna be able to use red sun for the seeker ring during the upcoming boss rush tbh
Melee doesn't have great options for it, even burning sky doesn't take them out too quickly for me
But I could just be doing something wrong
lost agate
I get you, but as i said earlier, guess thats gonna be rather impossible until the dev items are no longer post scal
worthy raptor
I mean even if they're not post Scal they're still dev items
If they're untouchable now they'll be untouchable later
lost agate
No, i mean, suggesting on weapons post scal
But, they may not need suggestions if they are made well
shadow prism
disable "drenaline does less damage after 5 seconds" if armageddon is active
makes saving it viable for nohits but not much else
radiant meadow
I wouldn't say that's the best idea because I'm pretty sure that adrenaline nerf was mainly targeted at nohitters skipping harder phases like fishron 3rd phase, guardians phases, and yharon subphase 3.
shadow prism
yeah but its incredibly annoying and leads to tons of wasted adrenalines
just ban phase skipping from nohits
radiant meadow
phase skipping is pretty arbitrary and would be hard to determine if something is dq'd
worthy raptor
the point of golden gun is to be something that doesn't affect weapon nerfs and single-class playthroughs, it's the best you're gonna get most likely
radiant meadow
except the golden gun sucks; it doesn't even get the damage bonus the marked magnum and lunic eye have.
The wiki says it does but it doesn't say in the tooltip or show higher than 5 dmg ingame.
golden gun is much slower than the tomes as well.
sleek wigeon
Why does speed matter if its just a support weapon?
Its not meant to inflict dps its meant to inflict ichor
sleek wigeon
Because summoner nerf
sleek wigeon
When not having a summoner weapon/tool out in rev+ , minions do less damage
tardy blaze
oh
sleek wadi
Why is the summoner penalty a thing again?
worthy raptor
because hybrid class is busted to fuck
radiant meadow
speed matters for golden gun because it's easier to hit something with something that shoots faster
It's much easier to hit say pbg with shower/spray off screen than the golden gun.
tired haven
Marked magnum has same use speed iirc
and it is actually pretty trash one
Unrelated note, golden gun misses the opportunity of au gun
radiant meadow
marked magnum's better though cuz it doesn't pierce unlike the Lunic Eye and au gun, and applies a unique debuff over the au gun and spell tomes
lost agate
Lunic eye tho
radiant meadow
lunic eye is outclassed by marked magnum for like plantera for summoners
you don't need homing to hit a big fat plant
marked magnum doesn't create i frames cuz it doesn't pierce like lunic eye
lofty pulsar
i dont know how hard this would be to add or if its even possible but what if the planetoids had gravity?
radiant meadow
that would probably be hard to code
plus it would be weird if someone was under a planetoid
proven tide
^
lofty pulsar
hmmmmm tru tru
lofty pulsar
sure mario galaxy style
hollow shell
That would be unimaginably difficult to program
fervent zealot
that would be hell
tardy blaze
that would be really cool tho
neon panther
kinda annoying tbh
tardy blaze
but it wouldn't have the same effect as the mario galaxy planets
like walking around a sphere
running from a boss or something
neon panther
and yeah it'd be hell to code
tardy blaze
yup
livid coral
neon panther
the problem is likely detecting if the planetoids exist
neon panther
@tight chasm deal with this
tight chasm
@lofty pulsar warned for obnoxious/meme suggestion
neon panther
hey I’m not supposed to minimod 
lofty pulsar
sorry my suggestions arnt good enough for you
neon panther
i
lofty pulsar
you have a good name
tight chasm
I deleted the meme one
tight chasm
neon panther
dude I literally know nothing about you
neon panther
except you’re so far either really stupid or a troll
tight chasm
cough #general-talk
lofty pulsar
sorry
ancient dragon
@lucid marsh He's still around. He just stepped down from being an admin.
hollow shell
^
lucid marsh
Well still, a tribute to his time as admin
ancient dragon
I don't think it warrants going that far.
neon panther
I mean we don’t have a tribute for Zach or anything
hollow shell
Unlikely. Plenty have stepped down from moderation positions in the past.
Nice thought, though.
lost agate
Oh, just wait
hollow shell
(also we do have a tribute to Zach)
lost agate
Its gonna be good
ashen warren
That's for zach
sinful violet
tfw people think waluigi is dead
neon panther
oh Fox is for Zach, coolio
ashen warren
I always wondered why a dragon dropped a fox pet
lost agate
Want a tribute to waluigi? Wait for it 👀
sinful violet
what
sinful violet
???
lost agate
ashen warren
Stell what on Earth are you trying to say
lost agate
Not ingame tho
hollow shell
Waluigi in Smash Ultimate?
lost agate
Unfortunely no 
sleek wigeon
Fox pet? fox pet!
wanton sun
Missprited fox pet
teal shoal
deleting this nerf is imo pointless, it serves its role of preventing phase skipping
bitter topaz
you'd simply add a DPS cap to prevent that
the objective is good, the method is not
teal shoal
dps cap will then make that its even worse, what is a point of thing which gives you burst of damage
when dps gets just capped so you deal nothing
bitter topaz
phase skipping is normally an obscenely high DPS
e.g omniblade core skipping with ml
literally nothing else can reach a high enough DPS iirc
teal shoal
than nerf a weapon not mechanic
ashen warren
I like the mechanic honestly
Except for certain bosses
And it's a little too strong
Like maybe 0.66 damage instead of 0.33
shadow prism
Biome Detector
Made from (biome blade materials) + 5 iron bars at a hardmode anvil
detects what biome you’re in and displays it
to be used for bosses enraging
lost agate
I mean, i think i can see what biome im in
ashen warren
That sounds, pretty useless
The idea is cool, until you take into account that there’s ways of knowing what biome you’re in already that aren’t special devices
Such as using your eyes
Or your ears
south wolf
p
ashen warren
Well, ears don’t work during boss fights
sleek wigeon
Yeah but you can mark the area prefight
ashen warren
With the device?
sleek wigeon
No, by listening to the music pre fight
ashen warren
Yes, quite true
sleek wigeon
Yes tbh
Since fabsol and others use updates and spoilers for non update stuff so often, it makes sense
tired haven
I'd even suggest including the link to version in same message as change log
So it's kind of confirmation "this version is out!" and harder to lose
neon panther
I was the first person to make a mega-music box suggestion and now everyone's doing it :c
jolly glade
low minnow
Though wouldn't that be stupidly hard to code in?
neon panther
not at all tbh
gilded haven
Sorta
chrome holly
Good suggestion Necro, but there should be a way to transfer from and to actual music boxes
shadow prism
there’s the wand as an endgame upgrade to a garbage starter weapon, equivalents for other classes (maybe copper shortsword, flintlock pistol, 50 shuriken or throwing knife, slime staff) that are (weapon) + 5 yharon soul fragments would be neat
copper shortsword finally gets an upgrade
sleek wigeon
The wand isnt really an upgrade to wand of sparking. Its more a fire related item that happens to have wand of sparking as an ingredient
And copper shortsword has always had an upgrade
its called
iron shortsword
shadow prism
true
sleek wigeon
also... flintlock pistol?
flintlock pistol isnt even a starter weapon...
You cant even get it before you get the musket/undertaker
shadow prism
Calamitous Soul Artifact
Destruction
Made from 5 cinderplate + 15 exodium clusters + 10 cores of calamity + 10 calamitous essence + 1 Draedon’s’ heart (to lock it to rev+) at a Draedon’s forge
While equipped, it inflicts vulnerability hex, reduces maximum hp by 100, reduces all player defense and DR to 0 and makes the player take 25% more damage from everything and [grants 10% increased damage, immunity to Horror and builds rage over time, but far more rapidly than Draedon’s heart (these effects are inherited from Draedon’s heart)]
However, it doubles literally all rev+ caps on player stats (i.e. if stat x has a cap of 100%, this changes the cap to 200%)
Basically the supreme nohit accessory
thoughts?
teal shoal
Throw away either first or second part of it or move it onto post ml
shadow prism
so get rid of Draedon’s heart?