They likely want to discuss the suggestion as opposed to tossing it in there instantly.
#suggestions-discussion
ancient dragon
shadow prism
yeah
ancient dragon
I do like how they're placed in progression after their bosses' relevant ramps happen. I suppose my only gripe with it (which is supremely minor) is that Astral Core sounds too much like Starcore.
night cradle
^
shadow prism
astral essence? astral beacon?
ancient dragon
Either or.
shadow prism
think im gonna go with beacon
ruby cobalt
Ah, yes, the "Luiafk out of nowhere" suggestion.
hollow shell
@woven salmon Are you getting your mods confused?
cyan lagoon
"Please at least try to discuss your suggestions in this chat before posting them in #suggestions-voting . It'll make a lot of lives easier."
@night cradle 
neon panther
the highest DR he can possibly have is 90%
And that's only for revengeance+
In normal/expert, the highest is 30%
heady comet
Tbh nerf so polterghast doesnt gain dr but constantly spawns clones every 10 seconds
unique vector
@ashen warren firstly, everglade is better than liquidator according to several sources
second, the trick is to save full rage for when clone is low hp then use adren right after it dies
or if u get adren early, then vice versa
assuming u use draedon's heart which ik it sucks but i found it useful for polter
ashen warren
thx for the advice
woven salmon
Why did someone @ me
left jungle
hey guys whats the highest damage reduction you can get pre Scal
cyan lagoon
radiant meadow
the deific amulet thing is a bug and has been finally put in the bugs doc a few days ago
ashen warren
Smh
bitter topaz
it isn't a very high priority bug
since it doesn't exactly affect the usefulness of the item as a whole
it's a whole 13 extra damage a hit before boss DR iirc
wanton sun
It's still stupid that it's been known for this long
ashen warren
One of the main points of it are immunity frames
wanton sun
It shouldn't take any effort at all to remove one line of tooltip
ashen warren
The armor penetration isn't even that useful
ashen warren
It's alright, but not worth an accessory
ancient dragon
@neat ember
...Mind explaining?
bitter topaz
epic suggestion tbh
heady comet
Lol
ashen warren
@neat ember this must be starred asap
ancient dragon
So like the Bard weapon for Plantera?
ashen warren
I'm more reminded of the Mario chompy things
wanton sun
I think it's like the piranha gun
ashen warren
But in terraria
neat ember
Kinda.
ancient dragon
...Anyways, keep it to a single message so the devs get everything from one post. I'd recommend editing the post with the image to contain the text as well.
neat ember
But it's a flail that chases people, like a pitbull on a leash.
ashen warren
^this tbh
neat ember
when the flail comes into range, it lunges and latches on.
ancient dragon
You could just put this elaboration in the post itself.
And again, put it in a single message.
neat ember
I could.
ashen warren
But?
neat ember
I'm also waiting for my PC to boot up.
neat ember
OK, i edited it
thorn canyon
Mario chomper boi
manic current
Thank you Elmoi, very cool!
shadow prism
move the infinite use profaned core back to pre provi
lost agate
Is there a way to see the suggestions with the most stars?
neon panther
Become a dev
but no, there isn’t a discord search function for the most reactions
You’d just have to scroll through
neon panther
If you want to check how many stars your suggestions have, search “From: StellHeartX#5112 in: Suggestions”
then just check each one
sleek wigeon
Suggestions forwarded to devs
lost agate
Ok
neon panther
erm
ancient dragon
@small ridge Already somewhat existent with Yharon's treasure bag.
Also Perforators, pretty sure. If you're willing to farm, ig.
small ridge
Yea i guess
ancient dragon
Doing it on a larger scale would require a lot of rebalancing though, and I'd say it fits for Yharon's fight specifically because of how grandiose it is.
small ridge
makes sense
i got another idea
but its kinda small
can i still post it in suggestions?
ancient dragon
I'd recommend you discuss it here first if you're uncertain.
small ridge
alright
I dont know much about all mods out there but i have an idea for a better worm boss battle
lost agate
Because we need more amirite
small ridge
so normally worm bosses just wiggle around and stuff
ancient dragon
Could just be a revamp idea, Stell.
lost agate
K
small ridge
but what if they just go very fast through wormholes
lost agate
DoG goes kinda fast when hes far away
small ridge
so they travel through portals instead of being on line moving very fast
paper wagon
Teleporting worms?
small ridge
sort of yea
ancient dragon
DoG is already implied to be travelling through dimensions during his encounter, signified by him going invisible.
I understand that's not what you meant, I'm just making a statement.
heady comet
God teleporting dog flashbacks
small ridge
yea
ancient dragon
It sounds like an interesting concept, but you'd have to flesh it out more.
small ridge
but im just saying most worm bosses are just fast
lost agate
Also, teleporting worms tend to be unfair because of how much damage they could deal out of nowhere
ancient dragon
Also make it decently balanced and befitting of the boss in question.
lost agate
I kinda see your idea, but i dont see it working out too well
worthy raptor
There was something like that in a game called magicite, where the final boss area had crystals littered about that you could turn into one time use weapons that did pretty good damage to him, I actually like the idea a lot, but maybe use it as a single-boss gimmick or something
lost agate
The numbers is what im not really sure of
ashen warren
@small ridge Here's a bit of a similar system. DoG would be able to move into or towards a purple portal of sorts and dissapear (note: because of how terraria's teleporting code works we could just make him go invisible) then another portal would open up suddenly, usually near the player. It gives the player a moment to react before the DoG 'exits' the portal (becomes visable again) to give the illusion of teleportation.
So it still follows lore, without being too bullshitty or OP.
lost agate
Idk, i like dog as it is rn
vital grotto
gosh darn everyone want's a reference to undyne the undying as an upgrade to undine's retribution we get it
neon panther
Not a boss suggestion, just a- ye
devout seal
I have to aplogize for the ping since it was already talked about now..
tight chasm
@ocean spire warned for meme suggestion
wanton sun
i know there's a reaction to if its relayed to devs, but is there a reaction for if they actualy implement it?
neon panther
Nope, just checking #changelogs and shit
unique vector
@lost agate i made a successor suggestion but it was more balanced. the fact that mine didnt get past 20 is a telltale sign lol
well i just checked and its at 22 but still
lost agate
Mine is at 19 rn
lost rapids
hmm
ashen warren
Intense Guitar plays
night cradle
I like the ref 
ashen warren
Thank
I never heard any of their songs
It’s not like the suggestion is gonna get in regardless of whether or not it gets the stars
orchid oxide
i like that reference
ashen warren
Thank
twin moon
Wrongchannel
opal barn
Right channel
It's better to discuss suggestions here first rather than posting them as they are
twin moon
True, my b
gusty geode
I've always pushed for a huge "enemy update" to add more variety and make grinding a bit less tedious, but it never made it to the devs whenever I tried posting my ideas 
ashen warren
Oof
sleek wigeon
@little jolt or make it reduce enemy defense directly like antimatrif
little jolt
rich prawn
jarate as a throwing weapon as my untouchable item when
ruby cobalt
GAH
rich prawn
dis mod needs piss
shadow prism
buff wyverns post ML and make them drop luminite?
rich prawn
what do wyverns have to do with loominite tho
shadow prism
they spawn in space
also they kinda just make sense to buff due to having the potential to actually be dangerous
buoyant robin
yeah the wyvern thing makes sense because the luminite tooltip is “a pebble of the heavens” or smth like that
shadow prism
(about plagued wing) spamming those would be really, really strong unless their usetime was slow
buoyant robin
or your can only have a limited amount at a time
buoyant robin
bananaman said that they would “be doing damage the whole time” as in ignoring iframes
or did i misinterpret that
tired haven
Probably mis
buoyant robin
oof sorry i’ll go cry in a corner now
tired haven
I mean piranha gun does damage whole time as well
split hatch
Have Luminite spawn similar to... uh, there was an ore that spawns only on a boss's first kill, maybe have Luminite like that. *Discussing about the "alternate luminite source" suggestion
buoyant robin
luminite slime? 
sleek wigeon
Dont all calamity ores only spawn on the first boss kill?
devout seal
Yep, that's correct.
shadow prism
Three separate ideas:
- Add a post-yharon auric slime so people can’t use up all their auric ore, preventing them from fighting scal 2. Make slime rain spawn calamity ore slimes in addition to regular slimes, and maybe add a slime rain summoning item 3. Buff the crap out of post yharon king slime and give him a 50 (or lower)% chance to drop 10-30 of each calamity ore (<50% for each type of ore)
cyan lagoon
Why the last one
shadow prism
don’t know, was just posting slime-related ideas
cyan lagoon
What purpose does it serve because its just ravager but easier
shadow prism
also ravager doesn’t drop uelibloom, auric, aeralite or cryo (and a few others I think)
bitter topaz
^
buoyant robin
not uelibloom, auric, aerospec, none of that
bitter topaz
ravager is for post-golem stuff
the ore slimes are enough for everything else
and an auric slime doesn't exist because there's already an obscene amount of the stuff spawned by yharon anyway
shadow prism
theoretically tho you could use up all the auric ore and not be able to make the eye of extinction
bitter topaz
yes, but what use would 5k apothosis have to anyone
tight gorge
Bragging rights I guess
bitter topaz
the amount of auric ore is so high that in practice you should never run out
a whole 6 veins total is needed to craft everything as well anyway
if we went with theoretics for everything we'd have a bunch of useless stuff
frosty kindle
@bitter topaz 5k apotheosis tomes would be useful if you're playing Apoth&Friends mod
shadow prism
Three other ideas:
- Chlorophyte slime, to make chloro farming easier 2. As an easter egg and slight nod to lorde, hitting deathmode DoG’s head with mirror blade makes him say “no u” before killing the player 3. Either add this to all post ataxia armors or add it to one of the end game mega accessories or one of their components: an immediate, in-your-face low health warning like ataxia’s “inferno triggers on low hp” effect
cyan lagoon
no u
insert QOL mod already does that here
Though a waitless ml should've been in since the beginning
Or at the very least, only a 3-5 second wait
Maybe if possible fab could change sigils summon time with booleans
frosty kindle
LuiAFK has a "celestially sigil" which pretty much insta-summons moon lord
shadow prism
pretty sure it’s fargo but yeah
frosty kindle
LuiAFK adds one too
shadow prism
oh
cyan lagoon
Shooting down suggestions because "another mod did it" is pretty scummy
Like who cares? Its almost always QoL
frosty kindle
not that im trying to shoot it down. its a great idea
frosty kindle
yeah true that, i see it a lot
calm loom
My suggestion is so old, I’m probably already too late to upload it
Oh well, worth a try
unique vector
@radiant meadow isnt the profaned guardians a separate boss bc its to practice against thhem for provi
radiant meadow
I meant the separate boss
I didn't mean the ones during the providence fight
Also, using the guardians as "practice" for the providence fight most likely isn't gonna do you any good. The guardians don't shoot anywhere near as many projectiles. The guardians are just an extra step before Providence.
neat ember
I know, i'm working on it
cyan lagoon
Ah the flail
neat ember
yep
the last photo sucked
I've actually kinda been doing a little bit of work on it myself, but it's weird trying to turn a flail into a minion
My terraria takes a while to boot up, as well.
It's hard to test. Mad respect for the devs.
rose jungle
cob probably means describe it a bit more right
or at least you probably should have said what it was in the message
neat ember
look up
rose jungle
oh you edited it
neat ember
there's a larger post, detailing all the meaty and fleshy parts
unique vector
@radiant meadow u can have the same logic for the sentinels
only difference is that the sentinels make weapons, but most of those are after DoG
radiant meadow
except the sentinels actually have different ais and health
unique vector
¯_(ツ)_/¯
o well
i mean
the guards dont give much in reward for them to be buffed 
radiant meadow
The main focus of my post was to give the guardians more health and a new death ai
It didn't seem right for them to have the same amount of hp in expert, rev, and death
unique vector
more buffs = better drops imo
if u gonna buff, then add weaps to them lol
or accessories
hardy wing
@frosty kindle explode
frosty kindle
h
radiant meadow
Except these bosses don't seem like the type that needs loot; maybe a summon weapon or an accessory would work though
heady comet
Sams umdnerade
radiant meadow
don't enough mods reference this already?
Also, the reasoning behind this suggestion is just that you like undertale? It's not like summoner is lacking post-Plantera options. It has Entropy's Vigil, Dreadmine staff, xeno staff, sand sharknado staff, ravens, tikis, and ooa sentries.
ashen warren
Huh... May need to del that suggestion...
hearty yew
perhaps adjust the rules to curb the reference items. An item should be good on its own, not just because it's a reference.
sinful violet
not guaranteed to be accepted
sharp isle
i do know
cyan lagoon
@tardy blaze added a blue check because it was sent to dev earlier
I only checked those that were up to a week ago due to nobody wanting to scroll up to that
tardy blaze
Oh ok thanks so much
The original suggestion had 106 stars
No check tho
so I figured I would repost
quiet abyss
Nice QoL suggestion
tardy blaze
What is QoL
neon panther
quality of life
ashen warren
Quad check 
ashen warren
I’m not sure why, it makes sense to me
sleek wigeon
"pbg"
spring oracle
it makes sense too. in one of DM DOKURO's videos, at the SCal spoke and she had a british accent.
livid coral
hahah text to speech in terraria when
sleek wigeon
Dm dokuros videos arent exactly canon tbf.
slow nova
voice acting for bosses... "pbg has awoken" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE braaaap
not so sure about that idea
terse rain
For PBG he means "Plague nuke barrage incoming"
so putting voice acting in for literally one line
slow nova
The thing is the idea isn't really a horrible idea but the amount of effort and work one had to put into this for that one thing wouldnt be worth it
terse rain
^
gusty geode
Finding a good VA and getting a mic
Antiaris did it just fine
bitter topaz
summoners can't use the ichor tomes
yes they can
both weapons intentionally don't trigger the nerf
but yeah the golden gun really shouldn't pierce
radiant meadow
wait, ichor tomes don't trigger nerf?
nvm, just tested, all three ichor weapons trigger nerf
terse rain
no, they do
bitter topaz
yes, i've just been told they do.
what i'm saying is neither should
also what is this mythical third ichor weapon 
and if fab changed this i'll be slightly annoyed, since i remember him directly stating a while back that both should be counted as "support weapons" and not activate the nerf
mind testing it with pickaxes and seeing if they also envoke the nerf for some reason
radiant meadow
picks, axes, hammers, etc. don't evoke nerf
I guess ultra liquidator doesn't count as an ichor weapon.
bitter topaz
ok so it's just both tomes then,
guess i'll just count it as one of fab's many arbitrary, undocumented changes
radiant meadow
for some reason, shield of cthulhu evokes nerf even though it's an accessory.
bitter topaz
ok that does seem like a bug on the otherhand
guess i'll add this to the doc tomorrow morning when i wake up, since i can't be arsed to do it right now
or maybe ozza or gav will beat me to it
obtuse dust
n
cyan lagoon
oversight
sleek wigeon
Because auric telsa isnt strong enough?
radiant meadow
no it's not, the Terrarians are a power hungry race
ancient dragon
For a post-game armor, I don't see that as a bad thing.
fervent zealot
no no no no no no no no
i literally saw new attack for as and then i immediately NO
radiant meadow
Except aquatic scourge is kind of easy imo (easier the cryogen and brimmy). A new attack would be cool to see.
lost agate
All these peps saying that AS is easy, and im here struggling with him on expert mode
:feelsbadman:
radiant meadow
A figure 8 pattern lets you avoid most of the projectiles pretty easily
lost agate
But hes soooo annoying when he just goes SWOOOP because you flied to far
ornate blade
I made the suggestion because imo once you get the proper movement pattern down the fight can become kinda easy. But everyone has different perspectives on the fight. Tbh AS is probably one of the only hardmode fights I can do somewhat well in this mod. ;-;
lost agate
@teal shoal
Im sure people are struggling already with the flame cocoon phase
Because theres no i frames in it
So making more trouble seems unnecesary to me
teal shoal
well its just a way that i thought could be good to balance out that thing out
wanton sun
What do you even mean by their own
teal shoal
that it ignores i.frames of players if you didnt got hit by it
like there are 2 enemeis
if they have i.frames of their own you will get 2 attacks in 2 frames
lost agate
I think its more about personal skill, i mean, first time i tried i got a tank build and still gor definitely wrecked
teal shoal
even if you have something that increases i.frames
wanton sun
So basically you want to make Providence have permanent determination breaker
lost agate
Yes
teal shoal
kinda, but not for all attacks
maybe just for some but i dont know really for whicho nes
wanton sun
Determination breaker is specifically for zane
Nobody would have fun if you get shredded in 6 frames
teal shoal
welp yea kinda true i think its a bit ridiculous
wanton sun
Then what's the point
teal shoal
maybe make that that flames which block onto platforms etc. are having reduces i.frame time
lost agate
I think shes just fine as she is rn, is basically the first real challenge you get and buffing her would just make it way too unfair
teal shoal
like instead of i think 30 to like 5-10
just checked yea its 40 normally so making it like 10 for something what is easy to avoid otherwise seems fair
lost agate
Im still saying, just because its ez for you doesnt mean its ez for everybody else
teal shoal
well she is supposed to be difficult boss
lost agate
Perhaps you just mastered the fight and thats it
But buffing it is just a bit too.... Cruel i guess
wanton sun
Decreasing iframes on anything is kinda dickish anyway
teal shoal
well though then other way is to just ramp up her damage which lets be honest is worse way around
lost agate
Getting a little more damage is not as bad as being hit four times as fast you know
teal shoal
still you could have to increase it
A LOT i think by around 50%
which could make that you pretty much die in 2 hits
from everything
lost agate
Now consider a guy being bad at dodging like me
lost agate
Then why are you suggesting this madness?
wanton sun
Exactly how is Providence easy for it to warrant a buff (and in my opinion kind of stupid buff)
Now that yharon thing I would accept a bit.
I wouldn't swap them completely, but I'd add the movement speed of the first phase to the second
ashen warren
@lament turret Try to have it in one message please
wanton sun
Since some of the attacks in phase 2 are not very fast
lament turret
Sorry. That second part was an afterthought.
ashen warren
It's alright, just letting you know for future use
lament turret
But yeah, that's what I mean. Yharon is a huge threat in phase 1 because he's just so fast
It can be very hectic, and that's ultimately why he's as difficult as he is
But phase 2, he's so slow, and his projectiles are very slow, it made it very easy to breeze through that part.
lost agate
I agree with this, but not the way you say on suggestions
lament turret
Explain?
lost agate
I wouldnt swap the phases, but buffing the second one is actually a good idea
wanton sun
Well, the weapons you get post darksun are pretty great for yharon
Not just "one weapon and 2 accessories"
They're pretty fuckin great
lost agate
Not for mage tho
lament turret
Yeah
lost agate
Or some of them
lament turret
mage has barely more DPS
And they don't hit any more often because he moves so fast.
wanton sun
Well the way you say it is an understatement of the upgrade
lament turret
Again, my experience was mostly from mage and summoner
lost agate
Because the voltaic climax is useless because of the speed
lament turret
Summoner gets literally nothing, and mage doesn't get much
The only thing that summoner gets at all is Darksun ring, and even then, that's only really used if you have a free item slot that you aren't using for the better summoner accessories.
lament turret
Apoth is post-Yharon2
sinful violet
Oh, thought you were discussing SCal
sinful violet
People usually are when complaining about mage from what I've seen
lament turret
SCal is already being reworked
I wouldn't ask for a SCal rework when there's already one in the works
Yeah, Mage SCal is super annoying
But no, I'm not going to bitch about that
sinful violet
Feel free to do so in a reasonable fashion in a different channel though
lost agate
mage scal is annoying
No hit scal with mage weapons
Mmm K
ashen warren
Commenting way late on this but that changeling enemy sounds like death for coders
heady comet
peebis
lament turret
The beginning of Scal is the worst part for mage
lost agate
I can agree with that
lament turret
You don't have adrenaline to take out Sepulcher's hearts in a quick fashion, so you've got 500 projectiles to worry about at a time
ashen warren
What, you mean the part where you use Yharims crystal to blow up the orbs?
lament turret
Again, it's not that fast without adrenaline, Iris
Each heart takes 4 seconds of concentrated fire to kill
lost agate
no yharim crystal because rng
ashen warren
Well then dodge
lament turret
Thanks Nostradamus
ashen warren
RNG I can understand
lost agate
I have had some rng problems lately
lost agate
But you dont need to aim
ashen warren
True
lost agate
Thats where my brain fails
lament turret
Since SCal isn't as much a DPS battle as Providence, Polterghast, and Yharon, Summoner does fine
ashen warren
For me whenever I well in the beginning of scal fight I do shitty at the end and die
And if I do bad in the beginning I go good at the end but I die from all the hits I took in the beginning
lament turret
Summoner thrives on fights where you can just take your time and control the fight completely. (Fuck SPrime and Calamitas for that)
tardy blaze
How is scal getting changed
ashen warren
One day I'll finally get that magic run where I don't psych myself out like an idiot everytime I do well
lament turret
So, supposedly, she's not going to be a bullet hell anymore
And she's not going to be a superboss
lament turret
Because people don't like bullet hells
ashen warren
Where did you hear this
lament turret
It's what floats around #calamity-mod-talk
ashen warren
No it does not
lament turret
I don't remember if it's first-hand, so just take it as hearsay right now
tardy blaze
Now all the scal guides will be useless
ashen warren
I'll be quite annoyed if they make it like every other boss tbh
I doubt Fab would do that
ruby cobalt
She will still retain bullet hells.
ashen warren
SCal not being a superboss is going to be weird
ruby cobalt
Hitcap will be gone in favor of massive damage.
tardy blaze
Goozma and unknown super boss will be epic
ashen warren
How much more massive
tardy blaze
But fab said it will take ages to code
lament turret
Where's that, VI?
ashen warren
Could her damage possibly get
And it worries me about how strong these new superbosses will be...
It literally does 800
A hit
lament turret
Fabsol hasn't said anything about that in any chat that I have access to
(Considering that I've dug through the past 4 months of posts so far, and counting)
teal shoal
wanton sun
I mean there's already an easy way to get life crystals anyway
Not to mention even more in the sky
steep island
This isn't meant to be a different way to get life crystals, it's mostly meant as a fun thing, I just suggested they drop life crystals cause logic
If that makes sense
wanton sun
But what would they look like
steep island
maybe they'd flip onto their side and have a mouth split down the middle of the crystal
so like the two halves of the heart slightly open up to make Its mouth
ancient dragon
@sleek yew 'Blocked'?
sleek yew
sometimes world gen can screw you over and block part of your abyss early
sleek yew
hmm pre-eow/boc
wanton sun
you shouldn't even be trying to enter at that stage
you need shadow key anyway
so there's literally no use
devout seal
You can mine the abyss gravel with a nightmare pickaxe.
wanton sun
^
devout seal
It just takes ages.
delicate raft
Another Yharim's lair suggestion oof
lunar berry
@delicate raft hey don’t insult me I don’t go on #suggestions-voting much
quiet abyss
Oi, separate your suggestions into different posts, not just in one post.
delicate raft
I didn't insult you wtf
lunar berry
Well it’s hard to tell if a message had bad intent online
lunar berry
Ah ok
delicate raft
I'm sorry
dense girder
holy fuck that compression on the screenshot
ashen warren
@quiet abyss Minimodding
dense girder
why would you want an item that teleports you away on hit
like what if you're hit by a boss
lament turret
Thoughts behind this suggestion is just there aren’t very many viable high tier evasive items beyond a typical dash. Hopefully this could be crafted into a more versatile item.
dense girder
you just get teleported away and it despawns
lament turret
That’s the point. It’ll get you out of most boss hitboxes, but close enough to keep you in the fray.
It’s a short distance dash that’s in a random direction.
You can “dash” vertically at the cost of not having control of the direction.
quiet abyss
From my point of view, it seems a bit...underpowered, actually.
The 60 seconds cooldown is particularly long.
And you'll be using an accessory slot for it.
A single accessory slot is quite precious.
bitter topaz
a bootleg ninja gear sounds kinda weird anyway imo
bitter topaz
since it's the same gimmick of "dodge an attack for free" but with a longer cooldown
and a very disorienting affect
quiet abyss
Does the dodging effect from dodging accs reset the adrenaline charge?
bitter topaz
no it doesn't afaik
the way a martian thing could be pulled off is a teleport as an alternative to a dash
of course it'd not work like the RoD though
lament turret
Dodging doesn’t reset adrenaline for Counter Scarf and Titanium.
I don’t know about black belt and upgrades because it’s so random that I miss it
But I’m gonna go on a limb and say that it might, simply because I’ve never noticed it not resetting adrenaline.
bitter topaz
who uses the ninja gear unironically
lament turret
Or at least having adrenaline when I think I shouldn’t.
Summoners and throwers.
Statis Belt for throwers, Statis Belt Of Curses for both.
quiet abyss
From my point of view, this accessory is quite underpowered. And there's quite a few points as to why:
1.) The effect is very disorienting. Suddenly randomly teleporting after getting hit means you'll need a bit of time to adjust to the sudden position change, and you would get hit why adjusting to said sudden position change.
2.) The 60 cooldown is very long....perhaps too long.
3.) It's an accessory. Which means it takes a slot. And even a single accessory slot is precious.
lament turret
1 is just the nature of the item. A bit of a trade off, since it’s a “free” dodge in any direction, but is random. 2 exists because I felt a free dodge is too powerful (see: Titanium armor). 3 would be mitigated by having it build into a larger item. Which I forgot to say.
A more versatile and useful mobility item.
But those were all things I had considered while making the suggestion.
quiet abyss
My point with 1.) is that the trade off is too disorienting and disruptive.
For 2.), remember that counter scarf exists, and it has only 20 seconds cooldown. And now that it's no longer buggy, it's even more powerful than before.
Yes, the dodging may only be activated on dashes, but that's barely a trade off.
As for 3.), if the upgrade is good then sure, it could be a useful accessory
lament turret
15 second for scarf, but yes.
quiet abyss
If you change "random teleportation" to smth that's consistent like "teleports you backwards x blocks", and maybe lower the cooldown to 50 seconds, then I can see this accessory being a bit useful.
Right now the main thing that's making me iffy about this one is the random teleport.
But then again, maybe I'm missing something.
Some people could find this accessory quite useful, random teleports and all.
radiant meadow
The wof doesn't need to drop a thrower emblem. The Raider's Talisman has a very similar effect except it's built up. It also is obtained a lot earlier.
ashen warren
starter bag odditer
dense girder
i'm cooking up an item that will require more than one slime staff shshshshsh
ashen warren
o okay
radiant meadow
More than one slime staff would help with modifier rerolls too
nobody wants broken slimies
fervent zealot
oh no an odditer suggestion with an ulterior motive
ashen warren
So here's an idea that isn't fleshed out yet: Ichor Infusion set. What it'll do is be a post-hardmode pre-moonlord set of armor that gives the player ichor infused items. So if you choose the helmet you get ichor infused melee, and so on with the other weapon types. How you get it, I have no idea yet. I'm just kind of thinking of things as I play.
echo notch
that would obsolete some stuff id think
bitter topaz
so in other words, a set that gives the ichor flask to a specific class?
it could work
echo notch
sounds cool tho, ive always wanted an ichor flask for other classes
ashen warren
I'm thinking that it'll be viable as an alternative to other armors during the time. Maybe to balance it out you have enemies attracted to you more, or something like that.
echo notch
or have less defense in place of offensive capabilities and making things easier for you
ashen warren
Because we don't want it to be godly, but we also don't want it to get outplayed by something as simple as cryonic stuff.
Now obviously the item will have ichor involved, so perhaps we make a new use out of bloodletting essence to combine with crimtane ore, making a new material of some kind. That material can then be combined with ichor to make the set of armor.
Or maybe it's a random drop.
echo notch
would corruption have a cursed flames alternative
ashen warren
Perhaps.
bitter topaz
post-plant seems like the best tier as an alt to reaver and if you can play well, ataxia
ashen warren
I'm using reaver currently, not a fan of it honestly.
echo notch
i feel it should be less on defense considering the convienence its providing you
echo notch
sun god lol
delicate raft
He should, it's a rule.
echo notch
on sum bloons tower defense shit
bitter topaz
the "read pins" rule honestly feels like a scare tactic
probably because if it was enforced the server would have a total of 300~ members
but anyway, back onto that ichor set
the easiest way to balance it would be to make it somewhat of a glass cannon armour
echo notch
its gotta be balanced in the way where people will still consider using the golden shower and vice versa
do you wanna trade better survivability for convienence?
if youre competent enough at dodging, the armor would be your best bet
timber gale
@echo notch IMO modded gear shouldn't be balanced considering vanilla weapons
bitter topaz
yes it should.
echo notch
why not
bitter topaz
it really, really should
echo notch
golden shower is one of the best weapons to have
timber gale
if the vanilla options are on the same level as the modded ones, there would be no incentive to use unique modded items
echo notch
if mods didnt use vanilla as a balance point at all, everything would be messy and garbage
bitter topaz
take a look at modded mc for why vanilla should always be used as a balance check
echo notch
i was suggesting the armor would be a sidegrade
bitter topaz
you start a power creep for your mods weapons etc. to be the "best"
echo notch
if you can hold yourself to a boss without getting hit too much, youd benefit a lot more from the armor
if you arent confident enough to do that, youre better off using the golden shower
terse rain
if modded weapons were much better than vanilla it would make vanilla bosses/enemies easier than intended
timber gale
I don't mean throw balance out the window, but don't force players to use something they have probably used a hundred times
echo notch
its not
terse rain
players aren't forced to use it
bitter topaz
that logic can be applied to repeated calamity runs
echo notch
im saying the armor would be a sidegrade
ashen warren
Okay so
echo notch
an alternative to using the golden shower that certain people would benefit more from using
ashen warren
I'm going to suggest the crimson alternative to the cursed capper
What should the name even be?
ruby cobalt
@hybrid cipher #suggestions-voting
ashen warren
I can't think of anything clever.
terse rain
Ichorevolver
timber gale
crimson capper /s
terse rain
if it's an ichor weapon, piss pistol
echo notch
LMFAO
ashen warren
That wouldn't work, as "Cursed" is referring to cursed flames, so we need something related to ichor in some way.
Also
That's funny.
But no.
terse rain
you know what golden shower's name is a reference to, right?
timber gale
bloody blaster sounds alright
echo notch
Sex act!!! XD
ashen warren
Yes I'm aware.
timber gale
maybe too cliche
echo notch
Holy Bloodline set
ashen warren
But Piss Pistol is a bit too on the nose.
echo notch
since ichor is the blood of the gods
echo notch
although that sounds way too cool for the tier its at
bitter topaz
pisstol could work
ashen warren
Ichor Kicker
echo notch
PISSTOL LMFAOOOOOO
terse rain
pimple popper sounds like a good name
ashen warren
Jesus christ no
echo notch
yucky
heady rain
peepeestol
rich prawn
sydney sleeper
echo notch
uhoh
ashen warren
"Golden Gun"
echo notch
thats alreadya thing
ashen warren
Ass
bitter topaz
that's already a weapon
rugged finch
jarate
echo notch
bloodline set would be cool i think
ashen warren
Also if we want the sydney sleeper just suggest a sniper rifle alternative.
echo notch
sniper rifle with ichor bullets
terse rain
the red revolver
ashen warren
That's it
ashen warren
So 'The Red Revolver' or 'Red Revolver'
echo notch
Redvolver
terse rain
The the makes it sound better imo
ashen warren
Okay
terse rain
but then it has issues with modifiers
ruby cobalt
Devolver
echo notch
Volvo
terse rain
Pimple Popper is a good name
echo notch
man thats gross
terse rain
that's the idea
echo notch
😔
ashen warren
What
timber gale
cursed capper/the new one
ashen warren
Cursed Capper or Crimson gun
terse rain
wait, is this a suggestion worth posting:
Chain of Cthulu: A melee weapon which functions similarly to the chain guillotine
Beater of Worlds: the corruption alternative, a broadsword like club which has extremely high knockback
I'm posting it
echo notch
those names are dope LMAO
timber gale
meat beater is the crimson alt
echo notch
good lord lol
dense girder
we need sters
terse rain
inflicts slimy debuff
dense girder
@hybrid cipher hi sorry don't kill me but a lot of suggs need stars
dense girder
christ just star it
hybrid cipher
just post the full thing
hybrid cipher
if it needs 2 slime staffs then the recipe needs changing
timber gale
@hybrid cipher are trophy suggestions banned?
dense girder
no
hybrid cipher
forgot that one
dense girder
but they do belong in the art server
timber gale
thx
hybrid cipher
p sure there's already one in the works anyway
dense girder
Crown of the Slime Lord - Accessory
Crafting: Gel + Pink Gel + Purified Gel + Royal Gel + Crown @ Solidifier
• Summons two slimes (color can vary; blue, purple, green, pink, yellow, red) to protect you. They fly, and occasionally shoot small globs that slow enemies down for a short period of time.
• All slimes are friendly to you and do no contact damage.
• On hit, cause a small explosion that slows enemies down for a few seconds. This effect recharges after 8 seconds.
how's this
terse rain
perhaps
dense girder
feedback?
rugged finch
Depends how powerful the slow is
dense girder
the same as the slow debuff, the one with the snail icon
but also with the effect you get when you get hit by a squirt from a slime gun
terse rain
I mean, why do we need it
radiant meadow
the slow debuff sounds like the crying debuff from statis' blessing or the freezing debuff from the siren's heart
radiant meadow
Do the slimes do summon damage, typeless damage, or something else?
dense girder
typeless damage
dull kite
@ashen warren make it one message
ashen warren
???
Suggestions have to be in all one message
what an awful rule
Not really
Prevents clutter
dense girder
^
dull kite
Thank you for fixing it
ashen warren
Never mind actually 
i also didn't specify that the arenas would be themed around individual bosses
echo notch
you can edit the message
ashen warren
hang right on
dense girder
individual boss-themed arenas would be 🔥
ashen warren
lit you mean ?
dense girder
ye
ashen warren
also, the most unique feature has to be the garden for mentally fragile players like me
for a long time, i wanted to share my ideas with a big community
and i think i just accomplished it
dense girder
i think the idea of a server is great really
dusty patio
Hello I noticed the newest update to Calamity makes "hell" fall outside of the map
I think it's because of the extension to space. It looks odd
Lest it be intentional
crude quartz
some complicated code magic would have to be worked to fix that
its not too bad tbh
sleek wigeon
@timber gale that trophy is way too visually similar to eoc's
dense girder
wrong channel demonic
ashen warren
and if there's a mass hang out (field trip as i call them), perhaps a moderator could post it in annoucements a few hours in advance
timber gale
@sleek wigeon The SANTA-NK1 trophy looks like it could be from Skeletron Prime. The Storm Weaver trophy looks like Signus' robes. The Calamitas and Brimstone Elemantal trophies look interchangeable. I think it's distinct enough.
buoyant robin
imo the storm reaver and signus trophies look nothing alike and the calamitas and brimstone elemental don't look interchangable
the aquatic scourge trophy is not distinct: both look like a tooth ripped out of something fleshy.
dense girder
wouldn't it be cool if we could have cutscenes when we kill a calamity boss
it'd probably be impossible to code but cool
buoyant robin
yeah that would be cool
cyan lagoon
@ashen warren Death mode is supposed to be a gimmick mode, and a challenge for those who think Revengeance Mode is too easy
The only death mode exclusive items are dev pets
heady comet
Why is it starred then
cyan lagoon
@hollow shell uh
cyan lagoon
i got ya
hollow shell
Thankyas
cyan lagoon
After a disputed conversation on the Dev server about the suggestions being forwarded, the ⭐ cap required has been raised to 50 from the original 35. The forwarding process remains the same, and will do so until a further change.
rugged finch
Okay
split hatch
I think the main reason behind Death Mode's lack of items is because it can be toggled on and off.
tired haven
I think main reason is because "hurrdurr locking content behind an ass hard mode I can't pass normal and you mock me like that"
dense girder
wait @cyan lagoon do suggestions that have 35+ stars but not 50+ now get unconsidered or are they going to be treated the same as 50+ star suggestions for now?
vague olive
@ashen warren read pins smh
cyan lagoon
@dense girder going to be left on standby until they break 50
@narrow saffron you could
but they are not going to be accepted
also wrong place
shadow prism
Two ideas:
- Make the wet debuff reduce the target’s movement speed by 15% for 5 seconds
- Make it so you spawn with full rage on armageddon so you don’t have to recharge rage before each nohit attempt
sinful violet
First one seems fine
Second one might be a little too controversial due to the fact you could probably use that to cheese things like events or just use rage whenever outside of boss fights
shadow prism
super dummy + gilded probiscis basically already does the rage thing tho
sinful violet
Then it’s not too hard to do it
shadow prism
true
sinful violet
Not like rage is extremely crucial either, although it does help
ashen warren
Is gilded faster than bagnakhs for rage building?
sinful violet
Might be
I think it’s because of the i frame ignoring thing?
I’m not really aware of how that works
bitter topaz
gilded does it at roughly the same speed as max speed baghnaks iirc
narrow saffron
Hmm...
I had a few ideas for the Determination Breaker.
1: it reduces the wearers HP down to 100 HP
2: Almost all attacks only deal one damage (attacks that should deal more damage should deal more damage, seeing as that is what their intended purpose is I.E Dungeon Guardian, Death Doggo)
3: Any and all attacks will deal lingering after damage for 1-3 seconds.
Just a thought.
sleek wigeon
50 stars seems like an absurd amount tbh
round falcon
ouch that hurt my fingers
unique vector
@round falcon "and make the Plagued debuff last longer. "
this is bypassed with the honey dew i believe
round falcon
no, its bypassed with alchemical flask
unique vector
yes that
round falcon
which i was too lazy to make and suffered no different
bitter topaz
i think your low DPS is more user-error than an issue with PBG
round falcon
i was hitting a lot of my shots
bitter topaz
PBG is a pushover because of how she's designed at core rather than just being easy because fab wanted it that way
i've gotten a normal 2-3k DPS with the helstorm+chlorophyte bullets the few times i fought her in the past
but she's hard for some, easy for others
solely depends on how well you can deal with QB with a slightly buffed up AI
hollow shell
@dense girder Any suggestions that got 35 stars in the past have already been forwarded, and will be considered equally to the now-50 star suggestions
@sleek wigeon It's because an absurd amount of suggestions were actually getting over 35 stars, so we want to get the best of the best rather than just ones that are decent
There are so many suggestions forwarded to the dev server now it's unreal...
unique vector
wait so theres a minimum of 50 stars now?
ashen warren
Yes
unique vector
cool
ashen warren
Aha mine is almost at enough votes
calm loom
Don’t want this to come off too awkward, but thank you, any of you who voted for my suggestion, it really feels good to know that people like it.
Thanks
(Not to come off as narcissistic as well lul 
)
@lost agate your suggestion was ingenious and simple, I didn’t even notice this before until you mentioned it,
Thanks I guess
lost agate
Its a little something i noticed after killing providence a few times
It just looked odd and i noticed why shortly after
calm loom
She is my favorite boss in the whole mod as of now, anything to improve her is always great to hear
sinful violet
to those people who say 50 might be too much, even after rover cleared up why we raised it...
i think we're good
even if 90% of the people aren't active at all that's still about 1860 people who'll see this stuff
that means that any really good ideas which the community thinks is hahayes good will be easily covered to 50 stars
only the really good ideas, which is what we want
worthy fiber
Interesting, ok
sinful violet
yeah, i got carried away
sleek wadi
At the very least a demon altar in the sky would be nice.
dense girder
not really 1860 who'll see it
there's only about ~100-150 active people here at most times
sometimes more sometimes less but when it comes to suggestions yeah
generally suggestions that get 100+ stars are either on-screen for a long, long time or are agreeable and posted during peak activity hours among those who have suggestions unmuted
if 1860 were active and saw the chat then don't you think there would at least be more than a few suggestions with over 100 stars?
instead it seems to be the same 40-80 regular users of suggestions and then ~70 who pop in occasionally
small minnow
i just read through the damage reduction wiki page on the calamity wiki, and the numbers are all messed up. they alter greatly from all the ingame tooltiops ...
small minnow
which channel to put it then ? the wiki channel probably ? .. ..
quiet abyss
#wiki-basic requires a wiki contributor role.
Though you can just ask mods for the role and they'll give it to you
odd apex
guzy i have plant for the next boss cold sun god and new biom cold haven i thnk well be post moon lord
heady comet
??????
strong monolith
At least he posted in suggestion discussion instead of the actual suggestions
ruby cobalt
Hahaues
buoyant robin
someone already said that
quiet abyss
...All 3 sentinels spawning at once?
That's a bit overkill
The sentinels by themselves are not that bad.
But 2 sentinels at once is quite unfair
And 3 sentinels at once is just completely unfair
Also, that would make nohitting DoG far too complicated
ruby cobalt
Hey uhhh, you need to fly to avoid dark energies and Signus?
HERE'S AN ANGRY CRAWLTIPEDE
quiet abyss
^ this basically
ruby cobalt
What, you need space to avoid SW?
COSMIC MINES, BITCH
quiet abyss
3 sentinels spawning at once mean that each sentinel will cover the weakness of the other(s) and so you basically have no way to dodge reliably or consistently at all
bitter topaz
i'd like to see it in some shape or form, but not in a way where you're forced to deal with it for DI
and ^^
ruby cobalt
Probably code a slightly different version of Sentinels sometimes launching separate attacks included in other bosses.
quiet abyss
I guess you can avoid hitting CV so he doesn't spawn any dark energies, and try to take out SW first since SW is quite fragile.
But even with the best pre-DoG gear there's not enough time to kill SW before Signus starts spawning cosmic mines, forcing you to fly up...
And causing SW to start chasing you.
While you're also being chased by Signus himself.
ruby cobalt
Like CV sometimes firing a dark energy while Signus is firing his assbolts.
tired haven
I'm not sure in mental development of persons who like to "multiple bosses at once" in Terraria
No offense but for real, even two bosses can already close each other's openings and make fight outtanking only
ruby cobalt
Except when it's crabbo and EoC or some other shit like that
tired haven
even then you either outrun crabbo or die from eye/shrooms
ruby cobalt
haha yes
ruby cobalt
Hell yes.
Not like because all my decent suggestions are 50+
calm loom
Yes thank you
And you don’t need to cross that out lul, honestly that’s the most truthful thing I’ve heard all week
ruby cobalt
I mean, I'm pretty honest in what I say, so ye, all my decent suggestions (at least those that I consider decent) are over 50 stars.
ruby cobalt
Same tbh.
calm loom
And the other was already put into the game, it was about deathmode ceaseless void
ruby cobalt
2 of mine got a check, and 3 are unchecked.
calm loom
So I’m pretty happy right now, it’s pretty hard to come up with a good reasonable suggestion, so I take my dandy time
ruby cobalt
And p much all of them are over 50 so I can't complain
calm loom
Lul
ruby cobalt
I mean, you could come up with something that buffs a boss.
Or reduces the grind.
Or adds more to the more unexplored themes of Calamity.
Like astral biome which is coming Soon™
calm loom
The one I posted not long ago was really old , but I used to have 106 stars on it so I felt pretty inclined to repost it 2 days ago
I’m surprised to see 72 stars
ruby cobalt
Which one is it?
calm loom
Scroll up a bit
ruby cobalt
Pillars?
ruby cobalt
Ye, got an updoot on both.
calm loom
He
ruby cobalt
It was a really cool idea, yet I never came around pressing the button
calm loom
Heh lol
I almost refrained from posting mine because I thought it might be some what difficult to code
ruby cobalt
Well, it's not that hard.
calm loom
But then I realized that I know nothing about coding, and said screw it
ruby cobalt
If (PillarHealth) = 1 then SummonMiniBoss
If Miniboss = dead then Pillar = vulnerable
calm loom
Sounds simple enough
ruby cobalt
Have you seen his reaction to the fact that Martian Saucer was a boss?
ruby cobalt
It was like 2 months ago or so, lemme find it.
ruby cobalt
calm loom
😭😂👌
ashen warren
Martian Saucer is one of the better mini bosses
ruby cobalt
The only problem with it is that it got npc.Boss=true, unlike other "minibosses"
ruby cobalt
No, the thing is - it's considered a boss
So adrenaline, iron heart, etc works on him.
ruby cobalt
So ye, it's a bitch.
calm loom
Ripperoni
ruby cobalt
Anything that relied on npc.Boss works whenever its alive.
Fabsol's reaction ensued.
calm loom
I honestly don’t blame him
ruby cobalt
I mean, I wouldn't blame anyone.
calm loom
Another mistake that emerged from the clusterfuck for him
ruby cobalt
Like holy fuck, what is that shit of a detail.
calm loom
Yeah
ruby cobalt
Literally no other event bosses follow that logic.
calm loom
Like come on, people probably bug him enough about problems he can’t fix in the game
ruby cobalt
And that's implying all 3 were in one patch.
Actually, he can fix that one according to himself, it's just a matter of flipping it to "false".
calm loom
Yeah, still though
Why would they leave it like that in the first place
Seriously
What’s a decent reason for that?
ruby cobalt
RedCode btw.
calm loom
I’m no coder, don’t know what that is 
ruby cobalt
Basically it's the "acronym" for the entirety of Terraria's garbage code.
dense girder
hi what are argue
ruby cobalt
None.
calm loom
Noot.
ruby cobalt
Alright, this is the time we move out if we wanna discuss shitcode tbh
calm loom
K
shadow prism
Spectral Bait: A light pet summoning item that summons a friendly luminous corvina with a 1% chance to drop from luminous corvinas posts-polter. Increases abyss light level by 4 but greatly increases abyss aggro
ruby cobalt
Doesn't sound too bad or too shitty to implement.
Except aggro.
But I guess it could be worked around, go ahead and post it.
dense girder
sounds.... bad
ruby cobalt
@hybrid cipher give a star to electro but to nobody else
dense girder
increasing the light level by 4 in exchange for everything sees you is not a good deal
ruby cobalt
Oh, it is a good deal.
shadow prism
its for endgame when you can just kill everything anyways
ruby cobalt
Granted most players just fuck everything they see.
And from my experience - they do.
hybrid cipher
hot
ruby cobalt
Thank for stars big man SarGASMuss!
dense girder
you fuck everything you see?
ruby cobalt
Am I included in "most players" part?
dense girder
you're not special so i guess
ruby cobalt
I mean, I'm an extreme dumbass, so I guess I'm included?
dense girder
lunar berry
Hmm
night cradle
I guess that post polter you kinda don't care if everything sees you
Wait, if everything sees you, then Eidolons become aggresive?
ruby cobalt
No.
hybrid cipher
@rugged finch vanilla yoyos can't get through 1x1, why would cnid
radiant meadow
yes they can
rugged finch
Let me test
radiant meadow
it depends on the angle
The pic may not have worked because of how the blocks worked
ruby cobalt
They can, but it's a "bug".
rugged finch
Oh
radiant meadow
I just tested it and the cnidrian is capable of going through 1-block holes
rugged finch
Mmmk, thanks for letting me know. Ill delete that suggestion
radiant meadow
see?
rugged finch
Yep, thanks!
ashen warren
@bronze gale We already do mod applications and we don't need any more at the moment
bronze gale
Understandable