suggestions-discussion

[neon panther]

tbh

[ashen warren]

Well that sucks

[worthy fiber]

ping me when a suggestion finally does

[past cape]

Would be better for one individual boss post ML

[neon panther]

Hol’ up... We haven’t had a suggestion in 12 hours. Has this ever happened before?

[past cape]

After beating ML there could be mercenaries that spawn throughout the world with their own set patterns of traveling, and sight, making it very easy to understand and exploit and get used to individually

[worthy fiber]

not like anyone's keeping track

[past cape]

They wont destroy blocks or anything, but they can do so stuff like throw sensor grenades that detect you if you are within their explosive range, whether blocks separate you or not

cue SA-X chase theme

[pallid warren]

After beating every superboss, you should unlock a new tier of the game where the superbosses of the base game are the easiest bosses and the new superbosses are really hard by base game standards.

[wanton sun]

so, how moon lord is now.

[pallid warren]

Yeah

Basically

Except that the current superbosses are like the Ultra Tier equivalents of the first bosses that ever existed. So there could also be the Eater of Galaxies and Skeletron Maximus

[quiet abyss]

First off, it'll take atleast months before all the planned bosses/superbosses have been released.
Second, there's a limit to how hard you can make a boss be, before it starts being either plain unfair or too horrendously difficult.
There's hard bosses, and then there's "Bosses that are so hard only less than 1% of the community can beat them"
Keep in mind that Yharim will be harder than SCal, Goozma harder than that, and the unknown superboss even harder than that

[pallid warren]

It'd be a major update

[wanton sun]

how fair can you keep a boss while also having it be challenging

[quiet abyss]

Major or not, there's a limit on how hard you can make a boss be before it starts becoming unfun for most people.
And yes, I'm aware that Calamity is already a harder experience than normal.

[wanton sun]

dare i say it... yharon is completely fair. it has a cycle and it follows that cycle to a tee.

scal is slightly less fair, but still fair. Scal follows a pattern, but attack spread is random

[quiet abyss]

Balancing "Fair" and "Difficulty" is extremely hard if there's too much of the latter.

[pallid warren]

You'd get new gear by that point, and to reach that point, you'd develop another level of skill

[quiet abyss]

Gear does not matter if the boss fights will still last their average lengths, which is atleast 2-3 mins.
"To reach that point, you'd develop another level of skill" is debatable.
You have to realize that there are a lot of people out there that already struggles enough in calamity even with the help of other mods, and sometimes even on normal/expert difficulty.
And not all people can develop another level of skill quickly.
Again, there's a limit to how hard you can make a boss be, before it starts being either plain unfair or too horrendously difficult.
Yes, if you're skilled enough you'd be able to beat them.
But for most people, horrendously hard bosses aren't worth trying to beat legit.
And when a boss becomes too hard, even if you're skilled enough to beat them easily they just stops being fun.

[wanton sun]

how fun is it to climb a flat concrete wall without handholds

its a bad analogy, maybe

but better gear does nothing if things like hitcaps and other uncheese methods are implemented

which it doesnt

but still

[quiet abyss]

As for your idea...it will both take quite long to be implemented, and unnessecary.
The devs have already stated that they don't want Calamity to become too bloated, and your idea will do exactly that.

[wanton sun]

its one of the problems i had trying to start minecraft modpacks (oh look minecraft)

there's just too much stuff to bite into, ya know?

i'd rather have a 1 course 5 star meal than a bunch of 1 star appetizers

[quiet abyss]

^ this, basically

[ruby cobalt]

Ah, yes, legendary MC modpacks that have 200+ mods and you end up not using 150 of them.

[quiet abyss]

[ruby cobalt]

No, seriously, I consider packs like Resonant Rise absolute garbage due to sheer amount of unoptimized shit and overbloatedness, but that's offtopic

[strong monolith]

Shameless plug of the calamity multiplayer memepack accessible in curseforge

Also what are your opinions on a post DoG sword like the one I suggested?

[quiet abyss]

Pretty nice, especially since there’s quite a bit of oppotunities to hit yharon with the blade after his charges. Well, it wont be as useful in phase 2, but if the projectiles have good damage then it should be pretty awesome especially since melee will finally have something for phase 1 other than devil and galaxia

[strong monolith]

Well, it all depends on how the stats are balanced IF it's added (and with the current star score after several hours, I doubt it )

[pallid warren]

Okay. How about a gun that shoots tiny Calamitases and is fuelled by Fallen Stars?

[quiet abyss]

Hey now, maybe you had posted the suggestion when people who likes looking at #suggestions-voting were offline

And a gun that shoots...tiny calamitas? Why?

[pallid warren]

Whoops sorry posted in wrong chat

[quiet abyss]

Even still, why?

[proven tide]

ooooo here goes

[pallid warren]

It's a joke weapon, worthless by the point you get it

[strong monolith]

But I posted like 30 minutes after A Dead Meme and he has 40 stars

[pallid warren]

Packs a punch though

[strong monolith]

Also why have a useless weapon???

[proven tide]

Meme suggestions are disallowed and SCal only drops dev items

😐

Double noep

[ashen warren]

@pallid warren I hope you realize that joke/meme suggestions get you a warn

[strong monolith]

Also we have the starfleet for star using

[proven tide]

I believe you mean Megafleet?

[quiet abyss]

They both use stars

[strong monolith]

Yeah megafleet

[proven tide]

But the Megafleet is the one relevant as it's the post-SCal weapon

[quiet abyss]

True

[proven tide]

there we go

[ancient dragon]

We're in a bit of an awkward moment regarding SCal drops because she will become a normal progression boss, but hasn't yet. Therefore making suggestions regarding her isn't exactly punishable but it isn't a good thing to do.
Either way, saying it's a useless joke weapon devalidates your entire suggestion.

[quiet abyss]

^ this

[strong monolith]

Smh even if it isn't a joke, we already have the Megafleet, and I'm expecting either for this to get replaced and for the MF to be in another superboss; OR it gets converted to just part of SCal's tier of weapons

[dull kite]

@pallid warren no meme suggestions, warned.

o toby got him

[proven tide]

hah gottem binch

[ashen warren]

Evan you're slow

[proven tide]

Interesting mechanic, but seems a bit out of the blue lore-wise

@pallid warren

[quiet abyss]

“Endgame” as in, post scal? Pre scal?

[proven tide]

Pre-SCal, from the sounds of it.

[quiet abyss]

Wait

Minigun, a pre yharon weapon, boths fire faster, is stronger AND can use all bullets

Minigun has 310 base, 3 use time

[proven tide]

😐

[ashen warren]

[quiet abyss]

I can’t even...this guy most likely hadn’t even bothered doing any research

At all

[crude quartz]

the mechanic he’s trying to use here to make it unique isn’t even possible

you cannot program that into Terraria’s spaghetti code

[quiet abyss]

So their suggestion is both pointless, and unprogrammable

[proven tide]

wow. Two pointless suggestions in a row.

[crude quartz]

marvelous

[ashen warren]

Suggestions have been amazing so far today

[proven tide]

[quiet abyss]

I’m just gonna leave the suggestion starless

[ashen warren]

Good choice

[slow nova]

Being a mod/dev must be really fun sometimes

[ruby cobalt]

Ban from suggestions

[ashen warren]

@slow nova Oh yeah, it can be reeeeally fun sometimes

[ruby cobalt]

I guess you could say that suggestion was a downer.

[tired haven]

auditory laughing

[gusty geode]

My minigame suggestion is at 45 stars
Is this the part where I call you all "Mad Lads"

[proven tide]

✋ I'm a mad lass but sure

[gusty geode]

Fair enough

[worthy fiber]

it doesn't matter until it gets the ✅

[proven tide]

I remember I once posted three suggestions in a row and they all got over 45

And none of them were ever publicly acknowledged by the devs

;c

[ashen warren]

@worthy fiber I thought I heard someone say they don't do the check anymore

[worthy fiber]

it's still in the pins 🤔

[gusty geode]

Did they ever

[worthy fiber]

nope

[proven tide]

kek

[ashen warren]

Ik it's still in the pins

[tardy blaze]

Bruh mine has 84 and it hasn’t been checked

[ashen warren]

It probably has been

They just don't do the emoji anymore

[tardy blaze]

Really?

Why

How do you tell now if devs have seen it

[worthy fiber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ashen warren]

Just hope they have lol

[tardy blaze]

Rip

I’m gonna repost

Or is that not a thing too

[worthy fiber]

you can after 1 week iirc

[neon panther]

I once suggested a simple name change for a weapon that got like 90 stars and still hasn’t been added

[worthy fiber]

tbh #suggestions-voting is just a way to purge our urges to change the mod the way we want it

[slow nova]

Devs are kind of like god in the sense you never know if they see your prayers. With some luck you have a checkmark, with badluck you have bone cancer. You never know

[worthy fiber]

nice

[tardy blaze]

I spent a decent amount of time thinking of a good suggestion

Quality > quantity

[worthy fiber]

as it should be

[tired haven]

Well, when you use #suggestions-voting , both methods won't lead you anywhere but quality isn't bannable at least

[tardy blaze]

Lmao

What’s the point of suggestions if it’s just all being wasted

[worthy fiber]

to pretend we're actually doing something

[tired haven]

You can feed your ego by getting enough stars

Or you can bitch around about not getting enough which also feeds your ego

[worthy fiber]

~~guys i have two stars left no one thinks i'm important enough ~~

[ancient dragon]

Reminder that #suggestions-voting is actually a sham and the devs don't check anything at all at any point.
/s

[ruby cobalt]

unironical /s

[ancient dragon]

I had to put it there so no one takes me seriously considering I have CD.

[worthy fiber]

i don't understand that

[tired haven]

using /s in 2k18

[ancient dragon]

/s is eternal and you're wrong if you dislike it.

[tired haven]

I don't

/s

[ancient dragon]

No.

[orchid oxide]

Who starred that

And why

[ancient dragon]

If it doesn't go against the rules, I am contractually obligated to star it.

[orchid oxide]

Ohhhh

Alright

[earnest raptor]

Why wrong?

I'm really enjoy Leveled and become , because only Thorium and Sacred Tools is "leveled".

[worthy fiber]

don't think cross-content/support with other mods is on the priority list of the devs

[orchid oxide]

I really don’t think the devs are ever gonna go out of their way to go cross compatibility for a random mod

[slow nova]

^

[orchid oxide]

What pseudo said yeah

[ancient dragon]

Leveled isn't exactly a 'random mod' since it's rather popular, but yes, cross-compatibility isn't of importance right now.

[earnest raptor]

[teal shoal]

they should just simply set a level cap

[wooden leaf]

No leveling system is rather unbalance becuz just think of a 7000 dmg triactis hammer at max level. It is too op

[bitter topaz]

triactas mage hammer of might
OP

[wooden leaf]

Well check the suggestion abt making the mod compatible with leveled

It make weapons deal dbl dmg at max level

So the hammer deal 7000 raw dmg per hit not counting bonuses and buffs

[bitter topaz]

7k damage a hit isn't much when the weapon is only obtained after the final challenge your mod

it doesn't matter if dev weapons are OP or not

[wooden leaf]

The speed tho

[bitter topaz]

and even then the DPS of the mage hammer is piss poor compared to other options

[wooden leaf]

The dps will be extremely high

[ashen warren]

No it wont

Voltaic climax would still be better even if the hammer did triple damage

[wooden leaf]

So then use the double dmg with other end game weapons

[ashen warren]

Yeah that would be op

[wooden leaf]

It will be pretty much unbalance

[bitter topaz]

you are aware levelled scales boss HP in respect to your level, right?

[wooden leaf]

Yes

But...

Whatever...

[teal shoal]

It all ends up with 0s anyway

Because damage limit

And it ends with like 50times the damage not 2

[devout seal]

@pallid warren I'm sorry, but DGY is being removed eventually.

[ashen warren]

What’s DGY

[neon panther]

Dragon God Yharon

[ashen warren]

Wait a tucking minute

[ancient dragon]

I don't see how that's relevant.

[ashen warren]

Why the fuck did they add something that they are just going to remove the next fucking update

[neon panther]

Fab added it without consulting the dev team

[ancient dragon]

Fabsol made the decision on a whim and without consulting anyone.

[neon panther]

Which is why they're removing it

[fervent zealot]

added what

[ashen warren]

Sometimes that should be allowed

[neon panther]

The future bosses

Sometimes it should, but none of the devs like the future bosses iirc

[ancient dragon]

Anyways, deviating too much.
The suggestion didn't involve Dragon God.

[ashen warren]

Oh damn

So then what is Exodium going to be used for then?

[pseudo fossil]

Fabsol need his own hollow knigth based weapon for what i see

[delicate raft]

Something else

[ashen warren]

Better be a good thing

[wooden leaf]

I think fab needs a hmm fallout weapon kinda thing?

[vague olive]

Tfw suggesting dev weapons for other people

[pseudo fossil]

Not my fault he is a part of the HK and fallout fandom

those fandoms seems like it has lots of nice peeps

[vague olive]

How is this relevent

[slow nova]

I enjoy the idea of a weapon that does goes through armor of shielded bosses to some degree, however why would you want to kill the dungeon guardian? Especially if you already are way past that.

[devout seal]

Wait, i thought he meant dgy in the thing, since dgy means Dragon God, Yharon, thought it was just a mistype

[fervent zealot]

it has a drop

bone key

[dense girder]

emagled fragmentations

jk but i agree

[jolly glade]

b e s i d e s t h e b o n e k e y

[dense girder]

it's useless to kill

Spookgun 💞

[livid coral]

Why? You can only summon dungeon guardian preHM before you beat Skeletron so unless youskip the entire Abyss and get into Hardmode then it's nearly impossible to kill

[dense girder]

No, not really

[wise pollen]

I mean I based the whole idea off the Super Spin's ability to break through D4C: Love Train's dimensional barrier so I may not have thought it all the way through

[vague olive]

How about suggesting actual drops for a start

[livid coral]

You're talking to the person who DID kill Enraged Skeletron preHM

[dense girder]

I've done it ez pz with two things: Statigel Armor and the Meowthrower. Put off the dungeon just a little bit and get the thrower and bone man is toast

[livid coral]

Without skipping anything

[pseudo fossil]

DG = you end a world,get op.weapons, summon in a new world, run and shoot the skull

[worthy raptor]

Killing enraged skeletron is the only way to go tbh

[dense girder]

if there are drops for skeletron

[ashen warren]

The Bone key is a little reward for defeating the near unkillable, like the pet from calamity are for completing real difficult tasks

[vague olive]

Hahayes

[dense girder]

let's not do an alchemistnpc mod

[slow nova]

also @jolly glade discuss the things here not in the suggestions channel pls, thank you

[pseudo fossil]

The bone key you practically farm it if you have lootbags

[jolly glade]

i am discussing them here

[dense girder]

let's create ideas for drops then

perhaps an upgraded book of skulls

[jolly glade]

Death Note The Book of Death

[dense girder]

boner automata

"Bone-R Mk.III
Drops from the Dungeon Guardian with a 100% chance or from Skeletron with a 1% chance.
Uses bones as ammo- fires bones rapidly for some decent damage. Slightly weaker than the Megashark.

how's that sound

essentially a better minishark pumpler

[jolly glade]

hmm

[ashen warren]

Name is going to be taken out of contex very very quickly

[jolly glade]

probably the point

[dense girder]

That's the point.jpg

[ashen warren]

_>>__>

[dense girder]

Here's a better name then

Bone Zone

oh no wait that gives me a diff idea

saving that for later

[ashen warren]

Sounds like smething Sans would say

[jolly glade]

Killer Cannon?

[ashen warren]

so good

[dense girder]

Boner Mk.III

"You're boned"

Bone-R Mk.II
Drops from the Dungeon Guardian with a 100% chance or from Skeletron with a 1% chance.
Uses bones as ammo - fires bones rapidly (40% chance not to consume ammo) for some decent damage. Slightly weaker than the Megashark.
Tooltip: "You're boned"

jesus christ vivid

that formatting

@sharp isle you don't need to use 388 spaces, just hold shift and press enter
to begin a new line like so

[sharp isle]

woah rly

ok thanks

[dense girder]

also to build on that

you can bring lore items to him

and he'll give you the full story of it

[sharp isle]

👍

imma edit it

and add what you said

[pseudo fossil]

The story teller may be an old lady-man dressed like a sage qith knowledge of the full history of terraria?

[wise pollen]

Oh oh, I just thought of something. Don't the DOG's segments all only take 1s and 2s except for the head and the tail later in the fight, or is that old

[sharp isle]

@pseudo fossil maybe

[dense girder]

Bone-R Mk.II
Crafting:

• Bone-R Mk. I + 100 Bones + 12 Souls of Fright + 8 Ectoplasm @ Mythril Anvil
  Shoots bones even faster than before, now occasionally shoots a skull rocket (1/8 chance) that does not damage tiles but deals large damage.
  Tooltip: "Welcome to the bone zone, brother!"

Mark 2

thoughts?

[sharp isle]

thots?

[vague olive]

Bone zone

[dense girder]

i thought of saying thots and ideas but sounded idiotic

[jolly glade]

i think i might delete my suggestion and reupload it so that it can actually be seen since i just edited the other message instead of actually sending another one

[sharp isle]

i think it'd would be cool, but how do i add a star?

[opal barn]

Only cool dudes can

[bitter topaz]

^

[pseudo fossil]

tbh i would also like to see boss appear as npcs in their human forms if not humanoids if you can actually spare them (there isnst enougth child npcs)

[jolly glade]

nvm it got a star anyway

[sharp isle]

thank

[dense girder]

Bone-R Mk.2: This Time It's Epic

[bitter topaz]

the reason was to stop irrelevant reactions iirc

[dense girder]

ah yes

the war of the unholy 🌟

[sharp isle]

why did you post your suggestion twice?

[dense girder]

I didn't

[ruby cobalt]

Boner 2 MK.2: Electric Boogaloo

[pseudo fossil]

Odditer... thats like the tipical eletric bogaloo the ver .2

[sharp isle]

oh rip

xd

im such a dummy

[dense girder]

Dear Sara,
"uhm i don't get it what's the problem"
Yours truly,
Odditer

[worthy raptor]

Dude is that SANS

[dense girder]

ssssh

sand undertale reference in mk3

still gotta make it all though

[teal shoal]

get boned

[worthy raptor]

dude is that SANS BON-R

[pseudo fossil]

Odditer... get dunked on

[dense girder]

wait no

[worthy raptor]

I'm really tired i'm sorry

[pseudo fossil]

Lol

[dense girder]

lompl is ok we love you 💞

[sharp isle]

so sara, what are your thoughts on the npc

[pseudo fossil]

I would love to see an npc like that, a old sage that knows everything what yharim did wrong, how the world evils generated, etc. i may lul if she ends up in being someone from his family that survived (wasnt seen around when all happened)

[wooden leaf]

You're gonna have a bad time

[sharp isle]

cool, thank you for your thoughts

[dense girder]

Four score and seven years ago

There were three Bone-Rs

[sleek wigeon]

Depth cells?

[sharp isle]

@dense girder why dont you put all of that in a single suggestion(message)

[pseudo fossil]

Odditer... you are still dunked on

[dense girder]

in case somebody wants the first two or just the one

[sleek wigeon]

What if i just want the last one?

[pseudo fossil]

~~also.. remember the skull thingy from thorium?

[dense girder]

Well you can't, you need the first two

Get boned

[pseudo fossil]

The karma stuff is bad......

[sleek wigeon]

:(

[wooden leaf]

Also it is kinda similar to the cannon in joost

The one that charges

[dense girder]

I am proud to have boned jones

hmm never heard of it

but still

[ruby cobalt]

Doom Cannon or whatever?

[wooden leaf]

Yeah

[dense girder]

just because a mod has something similar =/= this mod shouldn't have something of its own

[sleek wigeon]

Dont bone me ::(

Thats lewd

[dense girder]

Can I dunk you

[wooden leaf]

Youre gonna have a bad time...

[pseudo fossil]

Sorry, cant speak with negative karmaic points people

[dense girder]

put em all in one post

actually that does make sense to do that

[wooden leaf]

Well are you senseless

[sharp isle]

is it really ok to repost your suggestion after a week? i feel like it will break the rules :T

[bitter topaz]

i'd wait a month personally, but 1 week is the minimium you have to wait

[sharp isle]

gotcha

[dense girder]

did some edits to the boners

@sharp isle perhaps not spawning on worldgen because that cause some annoyance if you need a quick house to get a merchant or etc

perhaps after you defeat at least one boss like the dryad

or if you have a lore item in your inventory

[sharp isle]

good point

btw what's your opinion about the NPC?

[dense girder]

👍

[sharp isle]

👍

[wooden leaf]

👍

[dense girder]

@wooden leaf made you look

keep typing though

[wooden leaf]

?

[dense girder]

I was keeping a close eye on my boners when I saw you typing is all

[ruby cobalt]

👁

[sharp isle]

[dense girder]

if you star the narrator suggestion but not mine you are a LIBERAL!

[ruby cobalt]

Tbh, using o's as a bullet list thingy was a bad idea.

Should've just used -

[dense girder]

I would but

it's confusing with the crafting

Use triangles instead of o's

[ruby cobalt]

Nah, just move them on the same line.

Wouldn't be as confusing.

I'm also heavily implying that anyone reads suggestions, lmao

[dense girder]

I added -

[ruby cobalt]

👏

Looks nicer imo.

[dense girder]

🙏

I prefer the o's

if they were filled then 100% yes

[ruby cobalt]

Opinions, opinions.

[dense girder]

but I can't type a filled in O

[ruby cobalt]

Which would make it a bullet list, ye.

I'd also agree that would've been good.

[sharp isle]

I did star yours

[ruby cobalt]

Actually wait.

•

Does this count?

[dense girder]

🕛

look at the third boner

whaddya think?

[ruby cobalt]

Dunno, looks good to me.

[dense girder]

egg reed

+1 liberal

[ruby cobalt]

• • 🤔

[sharp isle]

[ashen warren]

did someone mention liberals

[dense girder]

uh oh

it's tobuscus

run

[ashen warren]

they better not be on a college campus

[dense girder]

mr. shapiro

there are 8 liberals who have liked the narrator suggestion but not mine

hunt them down

[ashen warren]

i liked both honestly

but if i had to pick one

[dense girder]

[ashen warren]

id have to go with the narrator over a new weapon

[dense girder]

why not both

haha got em

[ashen warren]

true

[dense girder]

Liberal!

[ashen warren]

but new weapons are less likely to added iirc

huh

[sharp isle]

[ashen warren]

🤔

[sharp isle]

nice pfp

and name ;)

[ashen warren]

thank u you too

pretty rare to find another vivid lol

[sharp isle]

[dull kite]

@neat pewter you have to just put more than “add a new class”

[dense girder]

Fortnite Gamer - 9999 damage jk don't kill me

but yeah way too vague

give us the juice pal

[neat pewter]

I realized that a lot of other mods add new classes

[sharp isle]

specify in the suggestion pls

like what kind of class and stuff

[dense girder]

alchemist

[neat pewter]

I only reason why I put it there is because most mods that add new classes don’t have as much post-moon lord content as calamity or sacred tools

[dense girder]

how about

yeah i got nothin for ideas

maybe just no new class

[little jolt]

i would rather have the existing classes be fleshed out than to worry about adding more

[neat pewter]

the reason why i deleted the suggestion is because i realized that calamity has an enormous amount if content to begin with; adding a new class would be overkill

[sharp isle]

Good i guess

[neat pewter]

also a lot of the cooler ideas for classes have already been done by other mods

[ruby cobalt]

If you're still thinking about it being a good idea - compare how much things the 3 main classes have and how many things the two generally worst ones do.

[little jolt]

^

[ruby cobalt]

And then think real hard on whether you want to add another one to the trash pile.

[neat pewter]

but if the devs were planning on adding a new class, i would like to see it have a lot (or a decent amount) of single player content, but at the same time it would also be able to benefit other players in multiplayer

for example: thorium’s bard class

[ruby cobalt]

Bard and not healer?

Mhm.

[dense girder]

yeah, thorium's healer and bard classes are pretty awful

but if a similar mechanic for multiplayer was implemented

one that doesn't conflict like summoner does as a class and works on the side

it'd be useful

[neat pewter]

personally i feel like thorium healer is pretty useless in singleplayer

[little jolt]

it is

[ancient dragon]

I do wonder why that is.

[little jolt]

a real thinker

[dense girder]

Alexis is here

[ancient dragon]

Y'know, a full support class being unviable in singleplayer.
Really jogs yer noggin'.

[neat pewter]

if the vanilla classes are good in singleplayer, and healer is good in multiplayer, then bard is the inbetween for me

[ancient dragon]

Also I've already explained why the two classes are fine, but I would do it again if prompted to in a more proper channel.

[neat pewter]

and it fails at being the inbetween

[ruby cobalt]

Rustles your jimmies, eh.

[neat pewter]

brb

[sharp isle]

bye

danny mentioned in the pins that he'd put ✅ on suggestions that have 35+ stars, but i dont see any suggestion with a ✅

[dense girder]

let's ping him

[tired haven]

^

[sharp isle]

its strange look at all these suggestions maybe theres a reason

and if i ping him for such reason i bet he'd be mad

[neat pewter]

back

[tired haven]

I think reason is that dev team is on rest and check only appears when devs read suggestion

[sharp isle]

mayhaps

[dense girder]

7 liberals

[alpine copper]

Tbh creating a new class is not that easy, in terraria you can hit someone with something OR shoot someone some kind of projectile OR make someone else kill the target for you, with all that one may think it's easy but it's actually pretty limited in resources

Maybe a way to go is combining 2 existing classes into one new class

[dense girder]

Summoner and Mage honestly if you asked me

Summoner in Rev is hard to do because you can't attack on your own or your minions do far less damage since you aren't holding their summon

[alpine copper]

That would be something like evoker class or archsage class

[dense girder]

Archsage sounds sexy

But how would merging classes work?

Would summoning damage be removed or

[tired haven]

It won't, most likely

[dense girder]

As such a huge change it might not

[tired haven]

But if smth, both damage classes would be removed in favor of third one

[dense girder]

but we're allowed to make ideas for a possibiltiy

hmm

magic + summoning =

arcane damage?

[alpine copper]

More like summoner but with more direct attacks

[tired haven]

Ambient lel

[dense girder]

divination perhaps

[alpine copper]

Eldritch damage

[dense girder]

get out george r.r. martin

but perhaps

[tired haven]

Eldritch is too specific and dark

[dense girder]

Arcane

[tired haven]

Maybe lul
Though then reforge would be... what?

[dense girder]

reforge?

[tired haven]

Arcane, gives 20 mana

[dense girder]

why would you change the name of reforging

arcane damage I mean

[tired haven]

Because we don't have Melee reforge

[dense girder]

melee speed

[alpine copper]

And instead of minions you summon attacks

[tired haven]

Melee speed, but not melee

[dense girder]

Instead of minions you summon Minions

[tired haven]

[fervent zealot]

odditer you should be banned for saying that

[dense girder]

agreed tbh

still though

arcane sounds good

it doesn't conflict with the prefix

since arcane prefixes are for accessories

[alpine copper]

Projectiles that linger around you if they don't have an enemy to hit

[dense girder]

cursed lamp

like the cursed lamp?*

[tired haven]

I mean melee is magic that sometimes has sticks orbiting you while shooting

[alpine copper]

And they buff you as long as they are alive

[dense girder]

that gives me an idea

[tired haven]

Summons may lose permanent buff duration but give more benefits tbh

[alpine copper]

And it would be like a Druid

[tired haven]

So it becomes less braindead gameplay but actually rewarding

But dreams are dreams

[alpine copper]

Because it would focus in lifesteal and manasteal

[dense girder]

Don't let your dreams be dreams

Just post it

[tired haven]

Meh

You can do that, I won't even take credit

[alpine copper]

But the main idea is merging mage and summoner in order to make a more aggressive and direct variant of a summoner

[dense girder]

wait what? of a summoner?

nty summoner is garbo

i'd prefer a mage that can use summoner interchangeably with magic weapons

so that weakened minions don't eat up frames

[tired haven]

I mean Iframes™ fucks not only with mage and summoner

[dense girder]

still, summoner is hard to play alone and summoning weapons make playing mage harder

so if both were combined to create one core magic-based wizardry class

uhh that'd be cool i guess

cobalion is very good true

cosmolight is obtainable way too early

it could be that the two things used to make it (forgot the names) are made with a sun stone and moon stone respectively

sun stone and some shards of light and moon stone and some shards of darkness perhaps

[tired haven]

No need for these rare accessories reuse tbh

They already are needed in like three recipes

[dense girder]

only the celestial stone

as of rn iirc

[tired haven]

I mean you want shell, stone itself, and daedalus emblem

Each of them takes sun and moon stone in result

[dense girder]

shell makes you a wolf at night which boosts melee damage

why would you need that and a daedalus

[radiant meadow]

the celestial shell

[tired haven]

Shell is stone with some more stats and merfolk form

Stone and shell stack

[dense girder]

oh right

[radiant meadow]

shell and stone and daedalus all stack

[dense girder]

i'm thinking of moon shell

my bad

i k n o w

oopsi daisy

[sharp isle]

so do we have to ping danny about the ✅

[dense girder]

b-be my guest

[sharp isle]

:T ?

[ashen warren]

Bone-R series

:nice:

[dense girder]

kek

[ashen warren]

You are not sorry

[hollow shell]

@carmine pivot Elaborate

If you don't give a big dang good reason, won't be considered

[dull kite]

I thought it wasn’t getting nerfed no matter what..?

[ashen warren]

^

[hollow shell]

Maybe

I think we've let a few well-thought-out posts of that nature slide, though
because they have good reasoning, etc

[ashen warren]

Damn some

[carmine pivot]

Okay. Pre-Hardmode it Does ~7k dps, post it does ~20k dps. Any other weapon becomes obsolete. Plus the fact that you can get it, like us, pre Skeletron. It melts anything WoF was over in 5 seconds

[tired haven]

Hmm?

[carmine pivot]

K thanks

I mean honestly thats just sad

[dull kite]

how so?

[radiant meadow]

The halibut cannon is not meant to be obtained pre skeletron. It really is post-polterghast.

It's not meant to be a real balanced weapon.

[tired haven]

It is post-game if smth

It melts scal and co., only reasonable dps is on yharon due to 400 def

But it is fine because using this weapon in normal playthrough unironically is beyond stoopid

And one who does that probably needs that to ever play

[radiant meadow]

On death eow it's decent cuz heads reflecting projectiles is dangerous.

[terse rain]

the latest suggestion says cosmolight is busted

it literally just eliminates wait times

there is no reason why anyone should want this

[terse rain]

I like vivid's suggestion, but I think the npc should sell lore items of bosses you've defeated

[sharp isle]

Thanks but that'd be useless since bosses drop their lores

[terse rain]

what if one were to lose one

replacement lore

[sharp isle]

[radiant meadow]

use cheat sheet then

[sharp isle]

I got 38 stars yay

[terse rain]

no

[radiant meadow]

use hero's mod then

[sharp isle]

Forward the suggestion when?

[terse rain]

yeah I starred your suggestion because I would actually like to see that added

[sharp isle]

👍

[terse rain]

in fact, the mod should rework where the lore comes from entirely

[neon panther]

no please dont move cosmolight aaa ;-;

[terse rain]

rather than the lore being boss drops, it should be obtained in some other way

because the way that the brimstone crags lore drops from brimstone elephant doesn't really seem to fit

[radiant meadow]

is there a better boss it could drop from?

[terse rain]

no, that's why I don't think it should be dropped from a boss

[pallid warren]

It should be found in chests, locked away in the dungeons and Underworld and Abysses

[ashen warren]

Everyone wants a bossrush Mode

[radiant meadow]

If I have a suggestion, how do I add the star thing?

[sharp isle]

CD or above will come and star it

afaik

[radiant meadow]

ok

[pallid warren]

What's CD

[sharp isle]

cool dudes

[ancient dragon]

They're both already bad, why would you nerf the better one?

[radiant meadow]

because they're not bad

astral staff is good for leviathan and golem

It also makes me question the starfall's existence

astral staff might work for ravager too

[ancient dragon]

Preeeetty sure Undine's Retribution can trash the two of them.
I would know, since I played mage.

[radiant meadow]

well, for some reason, when I did mage, I got undine's retribution post golem

[ashen warren]

Isn’t that already post golem?

[ancient dragon]

That's not on the mod, then.

I'm pretty sure it's post-Plantera.

[frosty kindle]

> using mage when you can have the powers of Ranger

[ancient dragon]

>SCal

[frosty kindle]

>ok you win

[sharp isle]

> using mage and ranger when you can have the powers of melee

[frosty kindle]

>using normal melee when you have the powers of Stellar Striker

[ancient dragon]

I think that's quite enough.

Either way, Undine's Retribution is much better than either of the Astral weapons so if anything, they both need a buff.

[radiant meadow]

so buff both with astral staff having higher damage and starfall having higher crit?

[ancient dragon]

/shrug

[round falcon]

welp

[radiant meadow]

destroyer doesn't need a nerf

spear of paleolith all the way

ancient ice chunk with rage works too

[cyan lagoon]

using a single weapon to shut down a suggestion

[ancient dragon]

Destroyer is just a dog-walk boss fight so I don't think it warrants a nerf (unless DM is different, I've yet to touch it), but yeah, trying to dismiss something with a single weapon for a single class is pretty close-minded

[radiant meadow]

well flarewing bow is also great as is fetid baghnaks

[strong monolith]

oh nice my sword suggestion is at 52 stars 👀

[quiet abyss]

See, told ya back then its just that not many people saw your suggestion yet, not that its not good.

[strong monolith]

now I have to wait for a tick emote to see if the devs have at least seen it

[quiet abyss]

[sharp isle]

[neon panther]

i dont think they're really adding tick emotes atm

prolly wont until hiatus is over

[strong monolith]

oh ok

[neon panther]

thats according to fishbun though so if its wrong blame him

[worthy fiber]

that makes sense I suppose

~~it’s also a lot of suggestions to look through ~~

[neon panther]

I’m gonna at some point make a doc of all 35* from when the check thing was added, and send it to them

it’s something I can do to be semi-useful

[worthy fiber]

nice 👌

[neon panther]

well at least I want to

I’ve literally only told fishbun

[lucid marsh]

Wow, ammolets got 60 stars, thanks

[sinful violet]

@neon panther rovers already done it all

[neon panther]

fuckin hell ok

I want to be useful but everyone’s already done it

[strong monolith]

[earnest raptor]

I'm not want to attack you, @ruby cobalt , but

It's have 66 stars, most rated my suggestion.

[worthy fiber]

It's not guaranteed that it'll get in though

Different overhaul ideas for items are still welcome

[ruby cobalt]

Ye, but I don't want it to be actually good.

I want it to suck less instead of turning it into a great all-around accessory.

[neon panther]

is that a meme suggestion

[opal barn]

It's the usual "it's not a meme because I say so" situation

[neon panther]

@onyx wigeon might wanna delete that

[worthy fiber]

it's an emoji suggestion, which I guess is ok???

not sure on the verdict of that

[opal barn]

wth even is a pingsock

[neon panther]

its literally 3 words

and yeah wtf is a pingsock

[worthy fiber]

@sock

[alpine garnet]

gimme a sec

[onyx wigeon]

why

[alpine garnet]

I'll find one in another disco

[onyx wigeon]

the pingsock is amazing

[opal barn]

What the fuck is a pingsock

[neon panther]

i dont want to ping a mod but i will

[onyx wigeon]

the pingsock is an emoji and the time to use it is when you get mad at someone pinging you

[neon panther]

can you at least include an image of the emote

[opal barn]

There are like 10 emotes for angery

[worthy fiber]

[onyx wigeon]

i like Pingsock

[neon panther]

you can use any of these for getting pinged tbh

[onyx wigeon]

i guess i will start using lel

[ancient dragon]

You can always just post the Full Metal Jacket GIF if angry emotes aren't suiting your fancy.
And wanting to add a completely unrelated emote to the server 'because you like it' isn't the strongest foundation for a solid argument.

Lastly, I'm sure there're plenty of global emote servers that can provide you a PingSock emote.

[onyx wigeon]

im shit at going to global emote servers and doing all that jazz. do i just join one of the servers and im done?

[ancient dragon]

Unless they have specific regulations for it, yes. You just join (and maybe refresh Discord because sometimes they don't load in instantly) and gain the emotes.

[onyx wigeon]

alright

(guess i have always joined servers with specific regulations)

[teal shoal]

This draed buff sounds like something Gucci imo @ruby cobalt

[dense girder]

my boners was star

[ruby cobalt]

Bonelord

[dense girder]

i wish my nickname was bonelord

or sand undertale

either one is perfect

[teal shoal]

Tbh draedon buff is only good suggestion

[dense girder]

go away elon musk

keep smoking weed and letting your stocks drop

[hearty yew]

@ruby cobalt you absorbed my suggestion you memelord

should I just delete mine?

[dense girder]

zucked it right up

[lost agate]

Because, Nanomachines, son

[ruby cobalt]

[teal shoal]

seriously i want so much now to make that draedon's buff happen

but probably fab not gonna let it go because its most anti tank person in the world

[ruby cobalt]

Nah, the entire incentive is that you take less and less damage with each hit, but it should be capped.

It's merely a buff so it stops being useless outside of luigi%.

[teal shoal]

i see

[dense girder]

Nautical Necklace
Lumenous Amulet + Ocean Crest + 12 Phantoplasm + 12 Depth Cells
• Attacks inflict the Crush Depth debuff
• While in the Abyss you gain 20% extra max life and extra visibility
• On hit, nearby enemies receive the Crush Depth debuff
• Ocean Crest effects

how this sound

the lumenous amulet kind of dies off so i wanted to give it an Upgrade

[teal shoal]

#suggestions-voting

[ruby cobalt]

Oh no, it's an aquatic emblem upgrade.

[teal shoal]

i could take it

[ruby cobalt]

Not after I whined to Fab about nerfing it pls

[teal shoal]

few additional armor points or dr% would be cool

[ruby cobalt]

The thing is, old AE gave you 120 def.

[teal shoal]

[ruby cobalt]

So i'm extremely opposed to buffing it.

[teal shoal]

yea 120 be like

:nope.avi:

[ruby cobalt]

Here, look at it this way.

If you used AE and diving suit - you tanked ML completely.

There were only 3 exceptions.

Deathray and double eyespam.

[teal shoal]

mhm i can see

also really who in the world thought its good idea

[ruby cobalt]

And double eyespam was bypassed completely by omniblade skipping it.

[teal shoal]

to give it 120

[ruby cobalt]

That was back when stats were overbloated due to double damage bug.

[dense girder]

replaced emblem with ocean crest

happy

[ruby cobalt]

Now it's too weak

[teal shoal]

maybe some post provi AE upgrade would be nice

like make it 60 or something

and add some stuff to it

or maybe 40+10% dr

[lucid marsh]

So the draedon’s heart buff could be: your defense increases for the next hit by the amount of damage you took?

[ruby cobalt]

Sort of?

[teal shoal]

More like % of it

[slow nova]

sounds like a cool idea as a sort of safety net. Just put a cooldown of a few seconds on it though

[neat pewter]

I accept all criticism

Mainly because I’m too much of a pussy to deal with criticism

But that doesn’t mean I don’t accept all criticism

[ancient dragon]

That's still a massively vague concept with no name, foundation or overall theming.
There's also the fact that Fab's lowest priority is multiplayer at the moment, and that the things you've advised to do are very basic guidelines for making any real class.

[dense girder]

damn alexis

all i did was suggest bats

chill

kek

[neat pewter]

Thank you for your criticism

[cyan lagoon]

@terse rain late response but thats literally why i want it nerfed

No cooldown and all you need to do is kill cryogen and you're set

Also it makes enchanted sundial completely useless since cosmo/day/moonlight exists

[night cradle]

^

[tired haven]

not like calamity makes tons of vanilla content obsolete

[split mesa]

How many favorites does a suggestion have to get before it’s considered by the devs?

[bitter topaz]

35 and it gets sent to a dev channel

[cyan lagoon]

Should be 45+

But its 35 because rules

[ruby cobalt]

But it's irrelevant.

None of those will get in anyways

[tired haven]

^

[terse rain]

I know that's why you want it nerfed, but the wait times don't actually make the game harder they just make it longer

[leaden stream]

what would be the point of adding crits to minions?

[terse rain]

minions don't have crits because they don't

[leaden stream]

adding crits and then nerfing summoner just seems like pointless effort

[bitter topaz]

nerf summons but let them deal crits

quality suggestion

[leaden stream]

everybody loves randomness in their weapons

[echo spear]

That's a blast

[tired haven]

It is too vague so I can say "let summons deal crits but uh -3% dmg from necromancer scroll"

It is indirect nerf to all summoner weps

[neon panther]

I always like making things fit to lore

[cyan lagoon]

but the lore would take well long before player appears

[leaden stream]

🤔

[cyan lagoon]

and wasn't it only DoG's species that was hunted

[leaden stream]

"Worms were no longer merely exterminated for being a nuisance, but actively hunted and wiped out."

"For all of their potential for growth and killing power, worms have been looked down upon by their enemies and regarded as little more than burrowing pests for centuries."

seems to be about normal worms too

[radiant meadow]

"actively hunted and wiped out" as in caught in nets for bait to feed to the fishies

[sleek wigeon]

Except it isnt about normal worms

Its specifically the space assimilation worms

Its a shorthand

[ashen warren]

thats a really stupid suggestion

[little jolt]

yeah, there is a very clear difference between shit like diggers and storm weaver

[neon panther]

1. You guys have a point
2. @ashen warren could you mind elaborating a bit more rather than just saying "thats a stupid suggestion?"

[ashen warren]

it would be really annoying to find bait early game

worms are incredibly important to fishing early game

[radiant meadow]

that's what grubbies, sluggies, and buggies are for

[neon panther]

and plus, it says that they become incredibly rare in HM where you should already have access to the better baits like masterbait (henk)

[ashen warren]

the former is fine i guess

im mostly talking about the latter

[neon panther]

it probably wont get added anyway, ijones had a good point that i cant argue with

[ashen warren]

id say it has a decent chance

[gritty kiln]

I support the worm suggestion if you mean anything with the worm AI

[sinful violet]

No

I was gonna say what ijones did

It’s specifically DoG’s species.

[cyan lagoon]

I already said that mrrp

Smh

[sinful violet]

Ijones, cob, whichever

The point stands

[polar grove]

the suggestion for the key to the safe is a pretty good idea, if you really do want it you can get luiafk which adds in an item that lets you summon the piggy bank, safe, and defender forge. oh also it has another thing but thats something you would have to look at urself

[sharp isle]

My suggestion got 69 stars

i ll remove my star ;)

[sinful violet]

@proper otter Those have already been considered before, we'll see

[proper otter]

ok

i just figured since we have items that say "free movement in honey" and "25% damage in lava" that making arenas from honey and lava is already a thing you want to do

[polar grove]

hmmmm

t h e s p o n g e m u c h?

[sleek wigeon]

Alternitively

there are mods whose sole purpose is to provide those things

[marsh acorn]

the last suggestion is pretty much don't starve isnt it

[worthy fiber]

yep

[cyan lagoon]

Not even dont starve

Anything with grue

[vague olive]

Plaguebringer dosent drop a weapon

[wooden leaf]

Well im gonna suggest 1 soon

[neon panther]

GSS doesnt drop a weapon technically

[wooden leaf]

GSS?

[neon panther]

great sand shark

[wooden leaf]

Uhm but he drop upgrade materials to exizting ones

So that counts

[neon panther]

cnidrion drops materials for victide bars, which can be crafted into weapons

[wooden leaf]

Uhm u can basically go to the beach

But GSS scale cant be found anywhere

[bitter topaz]

sorry, but could you translate that into something that makes sense?

the grand scale is dropped by GSS

and what do the ocean have to do with anything?

[dense girder]

haha yes meme army suggestion

good basis, awful execution

"1m hp goblins"

[neon panther]

recipe with shadowspec

[dense girder]

Wait what

[ruby cobalt]

"post-SCal invasion"

[crude quartz]

[hot marsh]

[leaden karma]

[hot marsh]

[ashen warren]

React to Reactions with Reactions

[crude quartz]

is that reactionspam I smell

[sharp isle]

btw the invasion seems an interesting idea buuuuuuut why not lower the drop chance of calamitous essence because it's used to make shadowspec which used to make OP weapons and you can easily make the suspicious looking blackhole + i think it would be kinda laggy if you combine all events and minibosses, especially when they crowd

[hot marsh]

Maybe 50% chance and only drop 1?

[sharp isle]

25% would be good, because it requires only one to make 3 shadowspec (along with the other ingredients)

[hot marsh]

Since it's Post-SCal, the idea is to obtain the restant calamitous essence to craft all items without having to kill SCal again

[sharp isle]

yep and the mobs and the minibosses should be super hard because calamitous essence is p important and OP when crafted with

[ashen warren]

Post SCal weapons == Powerful

[dense girder]

s p e c i f i c a t i o n

i s k e y

don't just say "Add this general thing"

[crude quartz]

what a good suggestion

[neon panther]

why is everyone so concerned with post-scal today

[little jolt]

[crude quartz]

ksksksksks

[crude quartz]

also its for every and any class

not just melee

[ancient dragon]

Don't make suggestions relating to SCal until she becomes part of the normal progression.

[neon panther]

@mellow horizon cometh

[mellow horizon]

I am here

[dense girder]

isn't demonshade awful though

[ruby cobalt]

It is.

[dense girder]

"arguably the most powerful armor set available in the calamity mod"

[mellow horizon]

tru

[crude quartz]

wheeze

[ruby cobalt]

Well, it is "the most powerful set".

If only the IMMA MASH 4 SETS INTO ONE set didn't exist.

[mellow horizon]

You mean the auric tesla

armor set

[crude quartz]

yesf

[little jolt]

same thing

[ruby cobalt]

Yes, I mean the IMMA MASH 4 SETS INTO ONE.

[dense girder]

and then, we'll make three other mash-4-sets-into-one armor sets

[mellow horizon]

I don't like that tho

[ancient dragon]

Post-SCal is basically entirely reserved for Dev items at the moment.
Wait until she's revoked of the superboss/'post-game content' status before making suggestions for here.

[dense girder]

then we'll use those to make one 4-set-armor armor set

[hollow shell]

Dont react to suggestions with anything that aren't stars
if it breaks a rule, just leave it alone

[crude quartz]

syg did it so its fine

[dense girder]

yes m'lord

[ancient dragon]

Understood.

[dense girder]

for a new class idea, how about...

fortnite gamer builder

actually nvm

[mellow horizon]

ban this man

[crude quartz]

more like steampunker from Enigma

[dense girder]

i just realised i'm on track to ctrl+c ctrl+v the tf2 engineer

gonna stop it right there

he builds sentris

[crude quartz]

we know

[sinful violet]

not even gonna

ffs

🔫

[dense girder]

"Make demonshade better"

[sinful violet]

Oi, and who reacted with on that other thing

ffs

[dense girder]

syg

[sinful violet]

@tight chasm 🔫

[lost agate]

Xd

[dense girder]

F

he have dead

[sinful violet]

Stell, make sure you have reasons and effort in your suggestions

[ancient dragon]

It was me. Apologies.

[sinful violet]

Oh

[lost agate]

Ok sorry

[dense girder]

Noo Alexis

Don't die

[sinful violet]

Either way, the reason we made the reactions cooldude only is because there were people giving negative reactions.

Even if it's a bad suggestion, don't do that.

[sharp isle]

mission failed, we'll get em next time

[ancient dragon]

Yes, I understand.

[sinful violet]

yeah, not just you

[neon panther]

remove alexis cool dude when

[dense girder]

proposes boss idea summoned with 999 calamitous essence-made item that is actually just the Lorde<

[hearty yew]

Why are we memeing with reactions?

[dense girder]

is that enough for a negative reaction 🤔

[sinful violet]

That's enough for a delete

Fool

[dense girder]

ah oui mon apology marp

[tired haven]

Wait, isn't that post like, confilcting with pins/rules?

[ruby cobalt]

Which one of the 3?

[sinful violet]

Which one

[tired haven]

Last 2

[sinful violet]

Only shadowspec is reserved for dev weapons

[ruby cobalt]

Technically no, they don't.

[tired haven]

Oh well

True

[sinful violet]

Calamitous essence is technically free game

[ruby cobalt]

Will they be shunned? Yes.

[dense girder]

[sinful violet]

Yeah, they're not happenin

[dense girder]

finally, my 12-page long document of calamitous essence recipes is useful

[sinful violet]

But freedom of speech and all.

[ancient dragon]

It's really not a good idea at this point in time considering she hasn't lost the superboss status yet.

[crude quartz]

kinda feel that "post-scal" stuff shouldn't be allowed
at least until scal becomes a normal boss for progression

[sinful violet]

It's fine

[dense girder]

yharim is going to be post-scal so why are they gonna add him smh

[sinful violet]

We bring over stuff the dev server personally anyhow

[tired haven]

Because it's not suggestion, odditer

[dense girder]

"it's not suggestion, odditer"

funny how just missing "a" can make you look extraordinary rart

[sinful violet]

hhhhh

[teal shoal]

What

[ruby cobalt]

Oh hey, look, another suggestion that isn't consistent with the rest of the bosses.

[tired haven]

Funny how complaining about articles can make you look smart
Wait.. it doesn't

[dense girder]

owo what's this? cwabuwon suggestion?

[sinful violet]

Please at least try to discuss your suggestions in this chat before posting them in #suggestions-voting . It'll make a lot of lives easier.

[crude quartz]

ew selfpin

[sinful violet]

shut

A necessary evil.

[dense girder]

can i discuss my scal boss change sugestion hereE?

[tired haven]

yes

[ruby cobalt]

Ban.

[dense girder]

yay

[ancient dragon]

not even pinning my anti-SCal suggestion PSA

[dense girder]

wait no

[radiant meadow]

I mean, I like it when bosses drop materials to make weapons to avoid the mean rng rods. I think an extremely old dog did this.

I do agree though it's not consistent with the bosses now though.

[teal shoal]

No.

[dense girder]

what

[ancient dragon]

suggesting for devset
God?

[dense girder]

" add a set bonus where you could, for example, summon an actual demon "

what does this mean

[crude quartz]

I don't even understand what the suggestion is trying to say

[dense girder]

it already summons one you myopic mantis

[sleek wigeon]

Hows demonshade aimed towards melee exactly?

[neon panther]

its not

[lost agate]

But at least make those guys block projectiles idk

And sorry if its a lil dumb

[radiant meadow]

we probably shouldn't mess with demonshade cuz it's a dev item

[lost agate]

Yeah, youre probably right

[ashen warren]

@lost agate I made the same suggestion but just said it should be buffed

[lost agate]

Well, blocking projectiles would be a nice buff, but whatever

With some cooldown of course

[ashen warren]

I did t know it was a Dev set though

Which Dev is demonshade for?

[dense girder]

Shadowspec

[bitter topaz]

demonshade is the only non-dev specific item iirc

[crude quartz]

wha

[bitter topaz]

i'm an idiot as usual

i wasn't aware the bars were literally named afer a dev

[crude quartz]

that they were

[lost agate]

we cant even change the bars

[ruby cobalt]

On top of that you can't even touch them because dev items

[radiant meadow]

but you can touch calamitous essense

[lost agate]

Nope

[tired haven]

Well you can try

[radiant meadow]

I thought calamitous essense isn't a dev item. Although post scal stuff probably shouldn't be touched anyways.

[lost agate]

I wonder if dev items will be moved to a stronger boss when they make an update 🤔

[ancient dragon]

Calamitous Essences aren't dev items, but I would advise against suggesting stuff for SCal specifically because of this transition period we're in.