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On that note could we have an opposite iron heart, where you only permadie outside boss fights?
But what would be the point of it?
Looking at why iron heart was pushed, I don't think opposite will get in
Because bullshit boulders are Fun
Iron Heart's point is that you still play in hardcore on crucial parts without having to worry about Terraria's rarted generation.
TrApS aRe GaY
iron heart is hardcore w/o the cancer
Hey, you got knocked off the edge by a bat and landed on explosives?
WELL FUCK YOU, HEHEEHAEHAEHAH
Mhm I could argue IH still having cancer
Uhh slime rain early?
Hf
One good hardcore run ended while I was roping into icy water with slimes overhead
A bat came up via the water and knocked me into the slimes and I die painfully
But I can cheese 99% of pve deaths as well
What's the point
If we go for truly fair experience, gotta count both sides
The point is you still can get fucked by RNG, one way or the other.
iron heart is a small % of the cancer of normal hardcore, there
Well
If slime rain happens and you don't want to fight king slime just don't kill slimes
Problem solved
Go underground or stuff
Bee larva then
Cheese strikes again
Just be careful not to break it
Hardcore's point is that you're locked to bitchpussy playstyle.
Something's not going according to the plan? FUCK ABORT ABORT ABORT
Bad generation? ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT
Made a mistake? You know the drill, ABANDON SHIP
Whatever tbh
I just don't like Iron Heart as it is crippled Hardcore for some trap haters or whatever. I gotta keep it as whole "imho" and not fight over that since my point of view is definitely flawed
think what you want about that one
It's technically easier but it takes a little too much time to execute practically I think
ye
45 hours to die from scal thx
scal iron heart is cancer at its finest
Normal hardcore runs are the same, except you can double the required time due to random deaths.
hollowed?
It's Iron Heart
Hmm, so I should just remove the 2 healing mechanics and its all good right?
I feel like it's gonna be mini-armageddon
since most likely with 10 hp and boss contact dealing 3, it's not gonna be an actual defensive accessory
The big thing is that it completely negates DoTs.
true, but I don't think anyone would use it even with that
Y'know, considering how much contact damage some bosses have, it is kind of defensive acc
would a PUFFLE pet suggestion be too memey
So if you took a hit - you took a hit, that's it.
RIP club penguin
plus community helps w/ DoTs too and nearly everyone uses that
Well I mean, I was thinking of making this acc specifically for the hard hitting bosses that can kill you in a few shots
Yeah, but people don't use community just for DoT help.
Like the future bosses
Community gives you stats
not just for it, but it's still a bonus
and debuffs usually don't do that much dmg
looks at god slayer inferno
Buff debuffs according to how strong they are in your hands 
The main reason I made the acc negated all dot cause well...-> on fire debuff with only 5 hp hahaues
How about that when dot is inflicted you take 1 additional dmg?
Though then some bosses become pure imbalance
Not certain if that's possible
Why not
I don't think there's a universal "If DOT = true" function, but you could change each DOT to have all attacks inflict 1 extra damage
...Thinking about it this acc might make people go "Imma just wear this thing and the rest all damage accs hahayes"
Time to change that 
Make bosses take limited dmg as well and make ranger even more rarted with that
"-Reduces your damage by 20%.
-Lowers the Rev+ damage and crit chance cap by 10%."
Will this be too much?
So it effectively reduces your damage by 27.5%
Pretty much
That's a big nerf.
Actually no
It's 30% cause it turns 75% cap to 65% cap 
Lemme fix that a bit
I was thinking of making this acc be like
"Eh it's not gonna be that useful for some bosses but on hard hitting boss this one's gonna be fricking life saver even if my damage is more shitty"
Not sure if it'll work out as I intended it too rn in its current state.
"-All effects of this accessory will be completely disabled if SCal is alive."
cough cough
Oh shi- right

@ashen warren no. no enemy gifs on the wiki
Well get told again nerd
I guess instakill effects will work as usual
That suggestion deserves to be shamed
"-Everything can only deal 1 damage to you, while contact damage will deal 2. Post-ML bosses will deal 2 damage with their attacks, and 3 damage on contact.
You will still die instantly from any instant kill effects."
...Yeah, I tend to always try and cover any possible unintended flaws/loopholes in my suggestions
and I tend to not read that as precisely as I want
To be fair you're not the only one, I do that sometimes too hahaues
probably not
so basically
hallow knight-esque mode?
if you lose health , you have to kill a boss to get back to full health
Why do people mess hollow and hallow so much and I want to die inside from that
and you might have to do that to fight another boss
that sounds like a thonker to me
...wait fuck, forgot to mention you can heal from nurse if boss ain't alive 
KEK
i think it should be a boss only thing like iron heart
But w8.
If HP potions heal only 1% of the health.
How about other HP potions, same?
Alright. That also includes other potions that heal health?
Eeyup, other health pots too
i quite like that throwing armour suggestion ngl
unique mechanic and it serves the purpose of giving throwing a very early-hm armour
and could remain viable alongside daedalus, giving you a nice alternative for it if you don't want to use it
...You basically said everything I want to say but better lmao
i'd love alternative to daedalus, gets tiring running it until post-plantera/calamitas
since that's a ton of bosses for one armor set
...A granite enemy sounds interesting but...
No drops or anything? 
Sounds filler to me 
oops
instantly killing anyone that attacks with melee weapons 
Wait that recipe
"Recipe: 1 muramasa, 10 ashes of calamity, 6 essences of chaos, 15 chaotic bars"
...that estentially means you can upgrade murasama in hardmode, even if you can only use it post yharon 
was gonna say
Muramasa

Not murasama
:/
oof
I derped, sorry
kk
why re-post?
Wait wat
i think we all read it as murasama ngl
you could just edit
Nvm.
should delete 1 now
It was adil
ik
adir*
well that my take on marble and granite biome enemies what do you think
also something i forgot to say is that these enemies will get a buff post planterra that make them drop ecto plasem and a buff post providence that make them drops phantom plasem but they will spawn poltergeist
Then edit your post and add it
Curse of the Undead: Guaranteed suffering for at least one person
So what this is basically saying is that all HP upgrades are useless.
I dunno, does removing the ability to heal make upgrading HP useless?
Oh right
estus is for bitches
ye lifegems and miracles are the way
:/\
I like the shade heart accessory but here’s a suggestion for it: hearts heal 1 hp, defense and DR still exist but don’t do anything so that anything that may rely on those stats still applies correctly, and you gain mana upon hitting enemies with weapons that do not use mana. Maybe also add some other benefit, like a stat increase if you have iron heart active?
Imho benefit to not get oneshotted by yharon ram is pretty much self-sufficient
And so on
Yes but it reduces your damage look at the other effects
How’s my idea y’all?
Not too bad, honestly.
Doesn't the nebula tier mana upgrade also give 100 which could've been cut
Yeah
each increases it by 50
You might wanna rethink your suggestion a bit.
Wait, Phantom Heart increases your mana by 100 I thought
it used to
Then it was nerfed.
Make that any event Miniboss and I’ll be happy
Done
It’s good now
Old Hivemind sprite is shit. The worst of shading and looks messy (in a bad way)
well at the old fight the orbs in the first phase did something now they are just some temporary barriers
There needs to be a boss that disables adrenaline and rage, that way people will have to learn how to survive on higher difficulties without it
The next person who mentions a resprite will be slapped upside the head by me.
@wraith hornet no low effort suggestions
good luck
Mine was because the new one was pillow shaded and has uglyness
Resprites are the LEAST of our concern right now
Oh ok
kinda agreed
Mk
like one of the thing i want to see is the hivemind flying balls/orbs do something other then block shots
Well the whole update two updates ago was mainly to fix Perfs and Hive, visually and mechanically
We have a lot of bugs to fix anyway 
well it made the fight easier then fucking EoW
so next update give the orb a purpose
So the ridiculous mobility in only on Death Mode then?
What about prehardmode?
@lunar dirge they do 
nu they dont
smh it's not on the wiki, because they don't
read it yourself before trying to be a smart-ass, beetle
When u summon supreme calamitis it wont work if there any blocks obstructing the square except on normal and expert bcs those squares are huge
And besides the ground
this is the wrong channel
you might be looking for #bugs-read-pins
((make sure to read the pins))
Oops ok
@lunar dirge i think that it should be at a 10% chance
Yea would be also good
cuz harpies are very common
i would like a upgrade to my fav wpn in terraria
that is the vortex beater
or vortex buster
i don't remember
@dusky nest how to do it
step 1: get an idea of how it works how to get it (no damage)
step 2: go to #suggestions-voting and wright your idea
step 3: if there is any complains/ideas in #suggestions-discussion consider it
i'll watch i can't sleep 
and it's ok but there is something else i didn't say
wot
do NOT wright in #suggestions-voting a low effort/meme/heart of the elementals you can get band
srry
Whould a calamity roleplay channel be a good suggest?
probably not
Sad but ok
no.
No.
There are two RP servers connected to this one, but neither of them are Calamity-based (although one is kinda-sorta connected). If you want RP you should go to one of them.
Poke me in PMs for that.
wait whats the other one
Whats the point of more rockets?
better DPS
^
So it would just be extra dps for something already p meta
Using different bullets/ammos/rockets for ranged weapons with unique projectiles increases their base damage, so even if the secondary effects are ignored, it's still better to use, say, Vanquisher Arrows over standard wooden ones.
i honestly would like to see that shade heart suggestion get into the game
Yeah sure but its just extra dps at that point for little reason
i get scared when my suggestions arent simple QoL changes or small items
true
Masterbait is an item,etc
You mean
Terraria loves its inuendos
Ent of the tree variety
elemental for consistency
Male elementals. Never knew this community would want that.

iirc someone made a profaned elemental in the art server. dont remember who though
Looks cool.
ye that
anyways just throwing out that surface doesnt have an elemental if they need ideas
basically it
We do need em'. +1
Elemental wouldnt fit with the establish rules of elementals
where are these rules and who made them
The definition of an element /elementals
You cant be an element if your alive
Trees are alive
its intention was different from normal elementals anyways
but uh
I don't think that's being used
"In a mood for very odd suggestion today.
Wouldn't be surprised if this one doesn't get that many stars."
-> Proceeds to see my Shade Heart suggestion got 54 stars
...Alrighty then...?
thats so me though
lol

People like weird and interesting
i honestly would like to see how people would play the game using a shade heart
and then
"I think this is a good idea the mod could really use!
Should probably get quite a few stars."
-> Proceeds to get 23 stars
...Alrighty then...?
People dont like being told “this is a good suggestion”
to be fair most of my suggestions that dont do well are pretty far fetched
Mhm, it's best to not comment something like "My suggestion is good so star pls"
Either go with my type of comment "Eh, I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't get that many stars", or don't comment at all
I never make a comment like "this is a good suggestion" though, im just saying its what goes through my mind half the time :p
it's weird, im in this community hours each day and i still dont know what they want 
You're not the only one 
i want to repost one of my QoL suggestions since this is a better time but i already have 2 in a row and ill feel spammy
also unrelated but you're back to normal 
If it's atleast over a week old you can repost it.
Since a week is more than enough time for your suggestions to get buried.
yeah i just mean the 2 most recent suggestions are from me and i dont want to post 3 in a row 
Hmm, well if you don't want to seem spammy, just wait for like, 3-4 suggestions to be made after you, then repost the suggestion
I like the rockets idea. It's kinda rebundant using rocket III for pretty much all rocket launchers 
Though considering how strong the post-ml launchers are already, the rocket V and VI might be a bit too powerful
Then again, the devs decided the stats
yeah, im sure they can make another rocket type that's balanced
plus rocket VI means ultimate destruction
But we already have ultimate destruction, as soon as mortar rounds are fixed
Like rockets for your gubs
Well, y'see, I'm thinking about a crab carapace armour set
If not melee, then no class-specific buffs but a lot of defensive mechanics
Currently looking at existing melee sets to see what's already been done
ah fuck I'd forgotten about turtle armour
hmm
Crab armor could be like the offensive variant of that
i'd do some sort of combo with Thorium's Terarium armor and Solar Armor
because i suck and base basiaclally all my set bonuses off of stacking debuffs and solar armor 
but
point is
you got some sorta stacking mushroom field
and the more mushrooms you have, the more defebnse
You cant be an element if your alive ```
What hellish logic is this
what english is this
i cant read it
aaaaaaanyways
shrroms will latch onto nearby foes and explode after a few hits
Why can't you read it, looks like just regular English to me
if an enemy dies
it will create an additional shroom
oh wait
maybe the shrooms add minimal defense
but mostly HP regen
idk
based off the fact that crabs have strong armor but also occasionally tear off their limbs and grow them back p quickly
and fungus grows quickly
It's not a fungal crab-based armour, it's just crab
well shoot
Sulphurous crab
Idea is to incorporate how the crab sits in the sand and waits for prey, but I don't know how
@wise pollen That would basically be sequence breaking
and?
Making them drop bones post skeletron however, arent sequence breaking
^
yeah that's true
pre skele it would be dumb
Just make them drop bones post skeletron and your suggestion is solid
Wait, so you did consider everything else?
probably not tbh
Hey now, its easy to miss some things when making QoL suggestions like this so its fine
there we go, fixed it
Nice 👍
Meme suggestion that I'm not posting in #suggestions-voting: Make Angry Bones drop Ancient Bone dust while you're at it too 
QoL suggestions like this are always nice
Bones arent used all that much
so i feel like skeletons dropping them would be... a bitt cluttery
Unneeded weapon coming in hot
Calamitas' Chrysanthemum
Crafted with Flower of Fire, Flower of Frost, and Brimrose Staff (aswell as some other crafting materials)
When used, it will slowly fire volleys of 3-5 brimstone fireballs that behave like the Vanilla Flower Fireballs, but when they get close enough to an enemy they will home into it. Upon hitting an enemy they will inflict Brimstone Flames. If these fireballs fail to hit an enemy, after 7 seconds they blow up on their own into a small burst of 2-3 Abyssal Souls.
Used in the Arch Amaryllis recipe.```
wut
you know what chrysanthemum is in chinese right
slang iirc
like mentally disabled for autistic
slur idk
there's a specific word
ok i honestly cant remember
but chrysanthemum in chinese
is a homonym for ass
and so is used interchangeably
o the word is euphemism
chrysanthemum is a euphemism for ass
and so that suggestion is mildly funny
@neon panther
2 shark fins seems a bit light for diving helm, considering its a 2% drop.
(and super easy to farm, the heck?
A channel would work as well. No need to go for server
yeah ig so
i just have something set up so that way it's no big burden on any of the staff here
since this server is big enough as it is but yeah a venting chat itself would work as well
god im just trying to look up the reverse for "A word that replaces a harsher word"
Too many people would abuse it and get banned.
It'd become off-topic 2, except people would actually get hurt thanks to insensitive shitheads.
i guess it is euphamism hmmm
That is one thing to consider, yes
again i could have myself or others moderate it were it its own server
but yeah i do see how that works
or at least i see what you mean
If you want to make your own thing on the side to support others, sure.
As of right now though, not sure if any of the staffers would be up for it.
well again i have one up already and if it's a good enough idea i'll have someone pin an invite in general or something
You should reach out to the staff more directly in that case.
like ping or dm them about it?
Either or.
i feel like i'd be better off talking to the admins or owners
since the mods don't have a big control over it
'Staff' would include those, yes.
or maybe they would i'm not sure how that whole situation works
yeah i'm just being specific
Either way, just reach out.
yeah
i can construct some sort of "pitch" tomorrow because i'm not tired but i'd probably make something better
tomorrow, today, same thing
either way a channel or dedicated server for it would at least make it so you didn't have to look at it if you didn't want to
rather than it being in general and everyone has to look at it if they want to have a conversation
To reiterate: It'd have to work on a trust system if it were to be a channel, and Calamity's 'trust' system would be the Cool Dude role.
Therefore, having a strictly-managed server sounds like a better option.
I personally like the idea of a vent server. Fingers crossed something happens with it.
Hahaues finally found an excuse to suggest a Yharon themed weapon

Won't that tier weapon have to be exo?
Whoops fuck
Considering auric ores and yharon soul fragments are both post yharon I could've gone with just yharon soul frags.
But eh since every other weapons in that tier use it, why not
Aaaand I forgot soul fragments weren't pre p2 
Triple whoosh on me
Also catharsis is Latin for healing
And yet there’s no healing aspect to the weapon(?)
Catharsis also means the purgation of emotions.
Ok sure
In this case, the weapon contains Yharon's essence which is filled with violent emotions
decent idea anyway
Or you could say, filled with Infernal Catharsis
....I'll let myself out
Yeah... hmm
Throwable music boxes woah
No, I actually think it would pretty good haha
Stolen idea, yes, but cool nonetheless
Remove the "This idea is original and I take full credit for it
" part then, please.
It makes the suggestion seems a bit non-serious, and some people might not take the suggestion as serious as they should
Fair enough
fact
...Uh
Already exists with bar crafting.
And if you're not satisfied by that, get Magic Storage for its faster crafting speed or turn frameskip off and craft by hand since that makes it go faster.
@heady rain Bloody Worm Tooth is an accessory from perforators.
The summoning item for perforators is called "Bloody Worm Food"
It's k
Phantoplasm dont right, i'm right?
excellent speak

Yep, i'm delete phantoplasm.
It's molten amputator
A blizzard summon?

I find it extremely annoying that most of the mods i use have sandstorm summon, but none for blizzard
torrential tear when
@jovial sable Blizzards just need it to Rain, they are not a special event.
They're just rain in the snow biome, that's it.
i'm supposably missing files. what do i do?
ok
I just thought about it
it will be easier to kill a twins for the weapon
Why not make bosses drop all weapons at 100% rate and treasure bags the same?
na that is an invectory floder
what will i get the community every time i kill the lavayathin
^^^
"drop all weapons at 100% rate" the community is not a weapon
The community is a rare drop for those who deserve it. It should stay a rare accessory

are you really going to nitpick like that when i'm pretty sure you know what i mean
i can post a suggestion of my again and i will do that
Honestly is dropping all weapons from the corresponding boss really that bad of idea? Not counting legendarys obviously
I get what he means
all it does is give a little more money
It’s a pain to have to fight a difficult boss again and again just for the right weapon
"do cosmic discharge" i assume they were nitpicking the fact that legendary weapons are... weapons
what me?
Thanks i suppose
Meh I’d be a little annoyed too
I'm not will get all in one time.
I'm want choice, was thing i will use.
Without redudant preparations.
this is an old suggestion of my there isn't any summoning legendary weapon
and it has been more then a week since i posted it
you talked to me

@earnest raptor if you did then i will tell you that
i will post one pun perforator suggestion 🥁 🥁 🥁 JK
@knotty kraken If they made it craftable in Hardmode, it will probably stay like that.
You can get leather with vertebrae
and don't edit your suggestions like that, keep them separate.
Suggestions about the discord server are allowed right?
yes
Offtopic 2
Sorta
I mean worst case scenario it turns out like #voice-chat-1 and noone uses it
I'm genuinelly surprised by suggestion that uses "ignores iframes" and is kinda balanced in dps
Imo it would ease sharing game experiences and suggestions
Simultaneously
it should take more than 1
but I really really like that idea
^
Okay, so I'll change it. And thanks.
Alot of sentinel summon suggestions
@night cradle i posted that idea before
a while ago i know i did idk when
but there are differences
first my was a legendary weapon
maybe i can find it
sentinels commendation Summoner "Legendary" weapon toll tip:" you killed their master now they will be at you mercy"
- Employs sort of Stardust Dragon mechanic: summoning more of them doesn't actually summon extra minions, but buffs already existing ones, can be used 4 times total (initial summon and 3 extra buffs), each summon takes 3 slots.
Summons:
- Mini Storm Weaver
Phase 1 (initial summon): acts like Stardust Dragon.
Phase 2 (2 summons): acts like Stardust Dragon, but doesn't deal damage and instead fires lightning orbs every 15 seconds.
Phase 3 (3 summons): lightning orbs fire off 2 lightning bolts.
Phase 4 (4 summons): lightning orbs fire off 3 lightning bolts. - Mini Void
All phases: sits on top of you like siren and fires his portals every 10 seconds (if one portal is alive then next one can't spawn).
Phase 1: portals fire lasers.
Phase 2: portals instead summons 2 Dark Plasma minions which randomly boost you (5% damage, 10 defense, 1 summon slot) and then disappear. boost last 3 seconds long.
Phase 3: boosts have 2 more seconds added to their lifespan.
Phase 4: 2 more seconds to boost's duration. - Mini Signus
Behaves like Deadly Sphere/Fungal Clump mixed with Sharknadoes.
Phase 1: sits on enemies, shoots mini cosmic balls.
Phase 2: every 20 shots summons a cosmic lamp that dies when it damages something.
Phase 3: Signus' attack speed is increased.
Phase 4: every 5 cosmic lamps Signus gains a massive speed increase for 3 seconds.
Recipe: Entropy's Vigil, 5 Cosmilite Bars, 3 Dark Plasma and a celestial staff, 10 Armored Shell and a cosmic orb, 4 Twisting Nether and a twisting wand, 15 Nightmare Fuel, 15 Endothermic Energy.
Crafting station: Draedon's Forge.
there you go with a wall of text and credit to the editor of this suggestion village idiot(edited)
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here it is
oh okay
Hey now
what
problem with sentinels thing being legendary is that doggo alrdy has a legendary
well 3 of the thing you need are just are rare
as legendary weapons
and gotten from the santinals
i know the pitchfork is probably the least insteresting of the weapons, so anyone got some good changes for that?
and the soul guardian is a stand
make it a summon weapon that creates an angry mob of town NPCs
dude
it is a summon weapon
dammit i reposted the thing around Saturday hoping more people would see it then but i guess the serv is kinda dead rn
Either that or it's not that interesting/good if nobody keeps starring
@night cradle You should make the Signus Minion have a chance to teleport and assassinate an enemy/boss and deal massive damage. Of course it shouldn't be OP, maybe insta-kill enemies, and only do a decent amount of damage to bosses, but not too decent.
Didn't read that so idk how it is. Just an hypotesis
The Signus summon should utilize Signus' greatest ability.
teleports behind you
nothin personell kid
who disturbed me from cooking leviathans with photoviscerator
ME
Can i "no u" that?
Almost no net
Not enough to download it 
rip

hey i can DM it to you though 
It's recommended to not put any stats on weapon suggestions, and only display when they are obtained, so devs can work out the numbers.
that's why i put "preliminary" stats before them
i know that the devs are the ones who do the fine tuning and all that
So its kind of a work around thing?
but i'd like at least an idea of how the "rhythm" of the weapon goes
Ahh, gotcha bud.
I guess they never really said anything against work around stats. My bad.
and thank you for being the only one to apologize like that 
No, they did say that stats are completely unnecessary because Fab is the only one that decides on them.
BUT there's an exception - if it helps you show where it should go on the progression - feel free to use them.
Yes, I know, not trying to talk down your suggestion.
More like clarifying why specifying stats is a somewhat good idea.
On top of that it also fleshes it out, so it just doesn't look like a bland "hewwooooOooO add thwis because hesheh"
lel
either way could someone suggest something that might be better than the Fork's current effects
I'm coming up with a small suggestion myself. Would it make sense to have Aerialite veins spawn in unique planetoids for them, and have some veins spawn in the clouds and replace other ores on a floating island?
Someone also came up with that, just so you know.
Dammit, had a feeling.
Spear of Paleolith? Easier example would've been Vanquisher Arrows.
I was gonna search it before putting it up, just so if anyone changes there opinion. But I should have checked way before asking that question.
(that's for Zplo btw)
Ahh, I think I found it. They said to have there own planetoids and 23 stars. Man, imo it just makes so much sense for them to spawn in clouds and replace ores on the ground of floating islands, and maybe some planetoids with them so you don't run out easily.
yeah
main issue is going to be running out of aerialite
as it stands though, aerialite isnt used for too many things you actually want to make
so the surplus of ore in worlds like they are now quickly get in the way
yeah, exact same thought i had. you dont really need that many to spawn underground.
and underground doesnt seem respective enough for an ore related to the sky.
The sky also seems like a good place to introduce new Aerialite enemies.
tbh i just kinda want the Soul Blaster though
If there is only 1 Soul Gem, then I like this type of idea of choosing a weapon with only 1 of the crafting components for other weapons.
yes
one per world
but you'll have to beat Polter every time if you really want more than one
Does Polterghast get stronger every time regarding this idea?
true.
Oh wait, I interpreted that wrong. You meant that you'd have to beat Polterghast every time in different worlds. Sorry, its morning time for me and I never have the thinking ability at this time.
Would it be balanced if Dungeon Guardians started spawning again post-Yharon, obviously at a reduced rate?
I mean, you can face tank DG's post-Yharon. So why not? But this may be more of a meme suggestion, unless you really iron out a description of why it should be implemented. Maybe with a purpose for why they spawn again.
Fair enough, I'll see if I can come up with anything
I'd like to see DG's have a purpose later in the game, since they are so strong.
what why no
Maybe an alternate summoning item that summons Mini DG's
fighting dungeon guardians
even if they got some sort of drop
would be aggravating as hell
it's not fun
especially if you end up in a crowded space in the dungeon
the thing just latches onto you
You can easily face tank DG's. They can be updated so you dont deal 1-2 damage everytime.
doesnt take knockback or anything
Uhh you can't really tank DGs, they will reset your revivals of auric/silva which is ass
it's not fun to fight
and
there's always the fact
what happens when you're done farming the dungeon guardians?
you dont need them for anything anymore
That goes for a lot of other monsters too.
If these new DG's get updated differently, then why not let them stay too?
But you have a point too. They may not be fun to kill. Maybe they could be updated to not act as a shitty DG pre-Skeletron.
that would be the only way it might work
but then either way it's not exactly a "dungeon guardian" anymore
Moved it to post-DoG so it's still somewhat of a challenge.
still a meme
Does the fact that it's the DG instantly make it a meme
yes
It would be a meme if it spawned again but didn't drop anything new, this way there's actually a kinda decent reason to fight it
completely change they way you fight it, maybe just make a new enemy "relative to the dungeon guardian" and make it spawn rarely like a miniboss, also make it drop a bunch of phantoplasm to make future farming easier and you might have a chance ot get it accepted
that could work. Maybe a Dungeon Warrior, more suited for attacking and not insta-killing guarding.
Sorry for off topic, but holy shit @vital grotto were you playing Enter the Gungeon for 11 hours straight?
hehe, "keyper"
i just leave it sitting there because i have to finish my playthrough
oh
I imagine it as like a skeletron clone/buff
Yeah, but the name "Keyper" might really make it into a meme suggestion, but I like the pun though.
not really
just a pun
weapons for mods are usually puns, onomatopieas, some cool sounding latin word, or portmanteau
puns and portmanteaus go hand in hand
i love latin words.
and esperanto.
I see what you mean though, similar to the "Crystyl Crusher"
Reminds me of the "Krusty Krushers"
but either way
items revolving around doors or keys
im thinking some sort of magic/ranged weapon that could repetedly open portal gates and hit enemies like influx waver or Hyperius Bullets
but hyperius bullets are ♿
Or if they do add a special chest where the murasama lies in the Abyss, drop materials to make a key to open that chest.
or both
also you can fit a keyblade reference for the melee weapon
yeppers
summon weapon may be some sort of chest of infinite weapons sentry that fly out and home in on enemies
but as cool as sentries are, they are underpowered and difficult to use effeciently
or we could make a weapon that does both a sentry and a summon
imma write up another essay about this in docs xd
xd
"chest of infinite weapons"
Is this a Fate reference?
no
Aw, shucks.
what
@real oasis No meme suggestions
memes?
@ashen warren do a thing
ive been spotted
@real oasis warned
Beat me to it 
XD
i posted a comment for a sec and got spotted your is still up
@polar grove should be warned since he directed him to suggestions smh
yeah
well im sorry i thought it was an actual suggestion :/
i was a joke XD
sorry
imagine if it was added tho XD
No

"XD"
Dry fruit man send us salvation
and again, "XD"
it wasn't even a funny """""joke""""""""
pfft
it was just really dumb
this channel is cursed at this point i swear
^
DM DOKURO already made the joke, too
in his Structured Mix video
at least that one had good music to go along with it
r.i.p
I never look in here for that reason, Bidoof

post dog lol
pulls out amr
If by challenge you mean 2 shot able, sure.
@gusty geode
That's apotheosis & friends material, not calamity
DG stuff?
Ye
Eh, doesnt seem wildly over the top enough for apo
You can give base stats iirc
"Note: If its unbalanced, devs can of course change values. This is just a base idea."
you're also not supposed to star your own suggestions yes you can give base/preliminary stats, it's just that fabsol decides their final stats

What if they removed the hit cap
But made each hit progressively do more and more damage
you mean for SCal?
Yes
Hmmm
although having that type of scaling sounds good ngl
you can go on forever but you get punished more and more for being an idiot
Tanks would still die due to not good enough damage output
tanks die against nearly all post-ml bosses
shes gonna be difficult, dont worry :3
fab despises facetanking
"If you don't like it, don't use it"
It's neither op nor required to use item rn
But it adds to variety
do they already? I don't know
They don't for sure
Otherwise there would've been literally no complaints about cinder
smh
@little jolt Why? You don't need to defeat them in order to damage DoG, and it's not hard to lose track of them
and very few spawn at a time
Imo, I usually lose track of them when I'm keeping my distance during the sentinel phase and subsequently get jumped by them during void
But i'm totally basing that off my own experiences
Yeah, I think you just need to be more vigilant about killing them if they're presenting you a problem
is possible to suggest a unique death message when you reach the hitcap during Scal? i feel it doesnt make sense to it to say "<player>'s legs appeared were his/her legs head should be" (one of rod of discord death messages), afther calamitas' taunt about our almost non existant doging skills.
SCal's taunt is basically the actual death message
STOP
bleh, having revengeance craftable would be super dumb
on paper it makes sense i guess
but in execution it isn't neccessary
like, at all
^
Current acquiral method is straight-forward and simple.
No need to make it craftable.
literally the only merit i can see that suggestion having is if you for some reason needed to make 12 extra worlds, all in rev for some unknown reason
and if you're doing that it's most likely for testing
and in that case you'd just use cheat sheet
^
@bitter topaz dumb idea, make it also have Infernal Rift in the recipe, summoning brimstone pitchforks from all over below the screen, and those that hit fire more towards the cursor, rewarding accuracy or something
Oi, you can't just call someone's idea dumb if their idea is actually good
Oh, lmao
grammer is very, very important
should've prefaced it as this may seem like a dumb thing to add, but imo
Atleast it's just a bit of misunderstanding, and not a full on argument tbh
A name could be Demonic Devastation
But that wouldn’t be good for prefixes; like a Demonic Demonic Devastation lol
Well, we already have "Deadly Deadly Sphere Staff" in vanilla. 

Bloodtide when
brb actually stealing that
@worthy raptor god tier idiocy suggestion in here

Hmm
oh yeah that's pretty epic
@wild sand yo can you not post non-suggestion stuff in suggestions, also speak english
everyone's aware of this questionable design choice
and removing it has been suggested more times than people who've been banned
i guess, im just reposting it since the last suggestion for this was exactly last month
From what I have heard it's apparently for consistency because Fab thought SoC's dash was visibility-based when that isn't the case. Thinking about it, does any vanilla accessory get disabled by visibility?
the only solution to this i've found was to place another smaller shield in front of it
but it still ruins the flow of the sprite
Not the most optimal solution, but you can use CheatSheet's extra accessory slots to circumvent that.
i would rather not use cheat sheet, too tempting
Why tho
Calamity is supposed to be difficult so yea
Ye but not everyone wants ultra hard
Then normal exists
There's a reason why there are 4 dufficulties, imo it's just a low blow to more relaxed players
You said on rev and below
So it's a low blow to normal and expert fellas too
@tribal iron this is getting suggested very often
Wha? why nerf purified jam? whats the point of it being a limited resource if its near useless?
^ I was wondering the same thing
And its already nerfed in death
Kinda offtop but where are checks? I definitely remember them being announced at some point
Or they were cancelled already?
ceaseless void?
huh
I mean that wep would cheese ceaseless
not that it matters too much since it's post doggo I guess

It's like shortsword.
so? how does that prevent it from oneshotting ceaseless
Difficulty of its.
And on normal and expert you always oneshots void.

Powerful of these weapon compensates with fact, was it's shortsword, was look like DoG head.
Risk on events -> reward as buffs
Actually now you don't, apparently it was a wiki mistake.
I think I have lore stuck in my head
I like that buffed AD suggestion
Thnaks
I guess the lore could be that, with DoG's death, AD's essence came back to it?
Thinking about it
If anything should trigger "super hardmode" it would be DoG's death
Well, more like the end of the late game, as then the true endgame will start, with the big 4/5/6
Yeah
This is a parody of my Slime God Post DoG buff
Since we now have the official lore for Astrum and it’s an actual piece of a god
He would probably need another sprite, as, according to the lore he's bigger than DoG
Yeeeeah
That suggestion had the effort put into it
Many people have thought similarly

But I give it an upvote cause you put effort
Yeaaaah thx man
:>
I gave it the star it needed to start off, @outer cedar
Now lets hope it gets in!
Thank you!
(Psst, dont vote your own suggestion)
Its just more of a ‘fair’ thing, not an official rule but i still follow it because the people usually circling this channel are the ones that enforce it tbh
Yeah, voting for your own suggestion isn't entirely moral
Nobody can stop you, but people will tsk-tsk you if you try to pull it off.
Aka every time I did so
I haven't voted for my own suggestion fyi
@outer cedar can you make your suggestions more readable next time
just use shift+enter or enter on mobile
Use enter
^
Bad timing shit

wrong channel @tired haven
Honestly if smth I'd have said "star your own suggestion for free + now it needs 36 stars"
And I referred to self-rating
So not really
what
"Yeah, voting for your own suggestion isn't entirely moral"
Earlier today

there was nothing to do with reddit in the conversation, just get back to talking about suggestions
PossessedByDerpy sorry
One of the few instances of a weapon being used in more than one recipe
sounds like a fps killer, which i don't like
also why? why make a sub/alt for ark of ancients
No, an FPS killer is using crystalysed arrows w/ the phantasm
AND HAVING THE PLAGUE HIVE EQUIPPED
there are degrees on a spectrum
That combo nukes the moon lord
The try FPS killer is ALL THE EXO WEAPONS

smh
is that a meme suggestion 
Whats cringe about PA? Smh
@ashen warren do your stuff
@ashen warren we've got another epic memer
Bleh he shares a username number with me
got it
smh
I feel shamed
what a massive meme
absolute legend
what was the guys name
mono72
but the i
you said you shared his number right
that be 6 tho
alright, time to get back on topic
his number was 9263 though
ok wah
last thing that was his first post since october 2017
"white shark tooth" arent all shark teeth white?
i assume he meant more along the lines of shark species
but there's no "white shark"
smh don't preach these lies 
exactly
https://starbounder.org/mediawiki/images/8/85/Lilodon.gif "Genetically Modified Lilodon Tooth"
lad is obviously a shark you can't change my opinion 
Okay whos been drawing dicks in my discord?
ive been spammed with dick picks by my friends
can you don't
Ask in your discord smh


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