Cultist has op shit behind him
Not a point
#suggestions-discussion
tired haven
bitter topaz
yes, and that fits exactly with fab's design philosophy
little jolt
so does the pillars if you fight cultist early
tired haven
Duke fishron exists as well
ashen warren
I mean, seriously access to Cores and Chaotic Bars as soon as you get into Hardmode is just straight up dumb
bitter topaz
fab's view of game design is literally "risk = reward"/"the higher the difficulty, the higher the reward"
hollow shell
@dry nymph Wow, you are just really pushing the time limit, aren't you?
ashen warren
There's a difference between being able to access it and actually getting it.
dry nymph
Reposted due to being over a week old, and me knowing the Dream Bosses official name.
dry nymph
Wait, when did I post that?
ashen warren
You can fight Leviathan whenever you want but any attempt to kill it outside of before Plantera will end in you getting your ass kicked
dry nymph
Oh, yeah, thought it was longer. My bad.
ashen warren
Yeah, but Levi drops IOU
hollow shell
IOU was moved from Pre-Plant to Pre-WoF
little jolt
She will drop all her normal drops
tired haven
because it was first boss to break progression, before non-linearity
And yeah postWoF now
ruby cobalt
Ah, yes, a suggestion for a boss that's not even implemented yet.
bitter topaz
you can already get chaotic from the get-go
tired haven
You forgot to mark "for a boss"
bitter topaz
the picksaw exists
little jolt
you can kill golem immediately
dry nymph
Don't know if this is the right placer to ask, and I apologize if I come off a rude, but my original suggestion has about 45 stars, and I don't see a ✅ does that mean it hasn't been forwarded, or can I just not see it?
bitter topaz
you literally fight golem, and boom picksaw
tired haven
Golem is potentially first hm boss
little jolt
actuate, craft old power cells
bitter topaz
did you think chaotic bars came solely from ravager or something?
tired haven
Don't old power cells only work in temple?
ashen warren
Golem is quite the bitch to fight with out preparations,
bitter topaz
temple key can be crafted early anyway
little jolt
same with ravager 
ruby cobalt
Yeah, except you can't actuate the temple without plant dead.
tired haven
Just hoik smh or use temple key craft
ruby cobalt
A shame that's a mechanic, huh?
little jolt
There's a temple key craft?
bitter topaz
ye
ruby cobalt
Yes, there's a key craft.
little jolt
im dum
dry nymph
@ruby cobalt If you meant my post, that's why I did it, because Yharim doesn't exist.
bitter topaz
20 souls of light/night, some spores and rich mahogany
ruby cobalt
Yes, I mean exactly that.
ashen warren
Wait, isn’t it coded into vanilla that you can’t fight Golem without fighting Plantera?
Or did Calamity override that?
ruby cobalt
You're suggesting something about a boss that's not been implemented ahead of time when there's literally 0 confirmed information on him.
tired haven
You can't use regular cells on altar, that's why calamity made old ones
dry nymph
Well, I figured if they did want ideas, I could give my opinion, for all i know, they're releasing him tomorrow.
ashen warren
Ningishu kills Plantera before this
dry nymph
@ashen warren Spirit did do it, as well as Sacred tools, so it is possible.
ashen warren
So yeah, in vanilla you need to kill plantera
dry nymph
Might be a pain though.
If the devs want to change how the generation works, that's fine, just my idea.
ashen warren
_> I know plant can actually be summoned with out Mech required, but golem is a different story
fleet fox
Woah, worldgen changes, probably not a good idea
ashen warren
Especially since this one is post Yharon
fleet fox
Ye
dull kite
@dry nymph you need to wait 7 days to repost suggestions
dry nymph
The Enigma mod made a different dimension, which doesn't break other builds. If that could be done, that could work. Although, I am not a coder.
I know, didn't realize it hadn't been 7 days, thought I posted linger ago than that. My bad.
ashen warren
A dimension?
dull kite
It's alright, you can repost it tomorrow though
wait
your suggestion got 43 stars
there is no point in reposting it now
dry nymph
Yeah. I don't quite know how to describe. It happens after you fight the Final Boss in Enigma, forgot it's name.
Oh, okay. I won't repost it, just couldn't tell if it was seen or not. Since there was no ✅.
ashen warren
Since when was there ever a check mark?
bitter topaz
smh
dry nymph
Could be, but it does temporarily remove all builds in the main world I think. Might be wrong. Never actually checked.
gusty geode
Enemies don't appear to be able to hurt you when you're there
But then again I was there once and I had god mode on
gusty geode
Just checked the wiki but nobody made a page for it yet
dry nymph
Oof. Well, it might work, if not, then they can generate it, and have killing SCal unlock it, like the Jungle Temple or dungeon.
ruby cobalt
Fab is extremely opposed to any post-worldgen generation btw.
dry nymph
Oh, then generate it during worldgen and unlock it post SCal like I mentioned.
ashen warren
@leaden canopy no talking in #suggestions-voting
dull kite
^ @leaden canopy
leaden canopy
ok
quasi fable
sleek wadi
Also, .1% chance from everything there gives you a lot of chances to get it.
bitter topaz
@lucid marsh it's fully intentional that the halibut cannon isn't affected by the rune
fab made an intentional exception in the code
he simply uses GlobalNPC to assign the drops
you think he went through listing every item to be dropped more commonly via defiled
to put it simply, he uses a blacklist to stop the halibut from dropping more commonly
cyan lagoon
also 5% chance for halibut to drop is gamebreaking
ruby cobalt
So what exactly is wrong with them raising your damage and crit by 3%?
versed grotto
@lucid marsh you literally can't complain about halibut's drop rate because of how op it is
it almost outshines most legendary weapons
ruby cobalt
almost outshines most legendary weapons
By being a legendary.
little jolt
Nothing is wrong with that, I meant it as an additional bonus
ruby cobalt
Technically it isn't, although it shares most traits that they used to have.
little jolt
Should probably add that in
ruby cobalt
Nah, I mean, why'd you want them to increase caps specifically, since the boosts they provide are already pretty good?
Not too good for optional bosses, but still.
little jolt
By the time you're fighting them, you would have already reached the cap
ruby cobalt
You'd reach the cap way before that.
ruby cobalt
2.25% actually
little jolt
I'm too lazy to do math
ruby cobalt
9%/4
little jolt
yeah
little jolt
fishing is boooooring
tulip prawn
add some lorefish lol
cyan lagoon
wo
dull kite
@timber thicket yo, can you please put that in a doc
cyan lagoon
thats one big suggestion
dull kite
ty whoever removed the pin message
versed grotto
um
a debuff that increases drop chances
seems quite already broken especially how it literally has no drawbacks
and you can inflict that debuff after you've almost killed anything
versed grotto
that'd be like a weird thing to do
frosty kindle
it's possible
versed grotto
¯_(ツ)_/¯
frail wigeon
perphorator
timber thicket
why would you make it
frickin
0.5% increase that wouldnt rlly do anything
maybe a 2% increase and the effect lasts like 2 seconds/hit
frail wigeon
perphorators
heady comet
Damn perpetrators
lusty idol
little jolt
hollow shell
@gusty geode Eeehhh that's pushing it
cyan lagoon
immediate deny
gusty geode
Fair enough
hollow shell
If you're post-SCal you might as well just pop a Zerg and go farm in the 4th layer
desert juniper
It would kinda lose value of getting the weapon
alpine garnet
Honestly if youre post scal, itd take less time farming it than beating scal that many times
Even if unlucky
vital grotto
""""""interesting""""""" addon?
you dont even need to make it a debuff @gusty geode , just make all of his attacks do:10% more damage and inflict godslayer inferno
automatically taking damage over the course of a fight is stupid
gusty geode
It effectively adds a time limit to the fight, and unlike an actual time limit, how long you have is still determined by your own skill
Also you get Godslayer Inferno from any source, including stuff like nearby unrelated enemies or traps
vital grotto
then just make a straight up time limit
it's not really related to his character in any way
but if you absolutely must
lapis tree
ceaseless does just waste time with invincible dark energy
but the time limit when its over could have you consumed by the void
that kinda makes sense
ashen warren
Uh, an entire armor set for a mount? And one that’s required to make Auric Tesla at that? No sir imo
teal wolf
tired haven
ceaseless void change + nohit
cinder locust
For sake of not breaking tongue
tired haven
Have to 1-tick him now, otherwise damaged
cinder locust
Make from Halfgods to Demigods
sleek wadi
Time limits should only exist to catch undergeared players, not as an actual difficulty idea.
That's a no from me dawg.
tired haven
All time limits are pretty much unneeded evil if you ask me
little jolt
Can you try to be more specific 
earnest raptor
As say on Russian, profaned guardians staff is "баян".
strong jacinth
nvm
ashen warren
Seems a bit redundant, if you can defeat Supreme Calamitas, you can waste Astrum Deus
ashen warren
Fair enough
ashen warren
@last haven Boss suggestions aren't allowed
last haven
but why not :(((
ruby cobalt
o, it's a mod training dummy
hybrid cipher
psst vetus shut up thanks
neon panther
(Mod dummy)
ruby cobalt
Sarg, you at it again?
ashen warren
It's specificially in the rules as well
vague olive
Vetus its a training dummy
last haven
hmmm i do not see it in the rules
ashen warren
Check the pins in #suggestions-voting
wanton sun
hybrid cipher
STOP INTERFERING REEE
last haven
OHHH ok i will go make new suggestion now :DDD
hybrid cipher
(it's a meme suggestion dumdum)
hybrid cipher
now go ahead and warn him
ruby cobalt
this is where you slap a warn
idle obsidian
Toby slaps mr worldwide "this bad boy can fit so much warning in it
ashen warren
potent vortex
Meme suggestion are banned, delete the do u know da wae shit
ancient dragon
Nice job missing the trial.
vague olive
Mingimos
ashen warren
@ashen warren talk here boi
proven tide
@vague olive nice prediction
ashen warren
proven tide
mingimos banged
vague olive
Tony do moderater stuff
ashen warren
dull kite
toby you should've deleted @ashen warrens message btw
vague olive
Would you not delete the meme suggest-
ashen warren
of course they wouldn't
ashen warren
1000 blocks is absurd as well
proven tide
1000x ricochet is insane holy fuck
dull kite
yeah 1000 is a bit much
proven tide
That would be both awesome and broken
dull kite
also, sarg told me not to delete the dummy's messages, so i won't
ashen warren
virtually infinite pierce bouncing lazer that bounces 1000 times?
damage is acceptable tbh because of that
How about a range of 1000 blocks instead?
earnest raptor
One shoot might kill three EoC.
ashen warren
@dull kite whoops
There are two things that should never be considered when balancing something.
1: Grind, 2: RNG
"One shoot might kill three EoC." broken
earnest raptor
But need, was EoC always stats on Futurum trajectory.
ashen warren
You could make a post-ML tier sword that needs 5000 dirt and 10000 stone and someone WILL make it before King Slime
proven tide
... what?
ashen warren
Trashbox seriously work on phrasing
ashen warren
yes they ca-
10,000 is 11 slots
The idea of a lazer gun is always a nice one but 1 projectile dealing enough damage to wipe 3 eyes of cthulhu is broken af so rework that
cinder locust
Now by damage it barely deserve Post-Plantera sign =T
ashen warren
A gun that pierces 50 enemies and deals 750dps or something is alright post plant
With 5 damage even if it ignores immunity frames that's 300 dps max
i'm actually working on a crowd control weapons suggestion that has drop rate increases as you progress and that could work
proven tide
oh my gOd
dull kite
I wouldn't call that a meme suggestion, he likely didn't know it was sarg's alt
dull kite
I did already
ashen warren
Ah thanks
earnest raptor
Changed.
ashen warren
See that's a good weapon
sudden quail
800 blocks is still massive, and 999 *Smooth Granite blocks is a big no-no
dull kite
@lapis tree you need to expand on that suggestion
ashen warren
Deathmode isn't going to have unique items except for nohit pets iirc
dull kite
yeah, DM doesn't get any unique items (besides the 2 pets)
ashen warren
Tbh deathmode is about challenge and not about reward
lapis tree
yea but once you get the pets
ashen warren
Epic boss fights and the like
lapis tree
is there much to do in death mode?
ashen warren
"epic boss fights"
dull kite
As stated before, new items aren't going to be added to Death mode.
It's in the rules.
dull kite
@earnest raptor put these suggestions in their own separate doc.
So you don't flood the chat
@lapis tree put your suggestions inside 1 message
ashen warren
sniped
dull kite
yelling at people
ashen warren
@lapis tree Put it in one message please
dull kite
mfw ignoring pings
dull kite
@lapis tree
Stormlion Shedder
Crafting: 12 Stormlion Mandibles @ Anvil
Deals 25 melee damage base, 1% crit chance base.
If you get a crit, the enemy hit will slowly lose health for 3 seconds
(crit chance could be changed to be a bit higher, but thats only a choice)
You can add lines to your message by hitting Shift+Enter
dull kite
also, final stats (crit,kb,speed,dmg, etc) are decided by fabsol, so there isn't too much of a point in putting them there
lapis tree
its a bit of a suggestive stats because its for early game but i understand
dull kite
well, it's still ok to put them there, just go with what works best for you
ashen warren
@vague olive told you they wouldn't delete it
vague olive
Youre not a training dummy fuck off
ashen warren
what
dull kite
@ashen warren it was a training dummy. Sarg told me to not delete the messages.
lapis tree
if it deals massive damage and up to 14x bonus, thats so much
im also assuming it drops from DoG
desert juniper
was gonna make it so if you get kills, it reduced the fire rate
lapis tree
ya but still
desert juniper
but it'll make it boring lol
lapis tree
pulling a shot off
that would be worth
it could probably one shot
about uuhhh, skeletron prime parts
desert juniper
True :P
lapis tree
but i guess it does have its bad parts
like against worms
with large health, such as DoG, DoU, simular
desert juniper
below 100 would be too wek
desert juniper
That's assuming you land every shot like, the max distance for 14x
desert juniper
When you fight bosses, you're not always gonna be far away
Closer you are, the weaker it is
lapis tree
base 300
desert juniper
Somewhere around maybe
lapis tree
can you add when you obtain it so i can estimate damage properly please
quiet abyss
“Phantom plasma” ...I cant tell whether this is meant to be “phantoplasm” or “dark plasma”. Though most likely the former
And wtf is “30 lamely”?
lapis tree
phantom plasma seems closer to phantoplasm, two letters off and a gap
desert juniper
I did
lapis tree
im blind lol
desert juniper
Oh crap it is
lapis tree
before polter for sure
lapis tree
also i think theres more than 1 type of ink
so either slightly hard to farm black or who knows
quiet abyss
100 ink...thats quite excessive even for an unconsumable throwing weapon
10 should be enough
Or 15
desert juniper
15 max
quiet abyss
Ye
quiet abyss
Phantoplasm is post ml now
lapis tree
wait
quiet abyss
Ever since the non linear update
ashen warren
gah that's broken then
lapis tree
so you can get it before providence???
quiet abyss
Yes
lapis tree
Thats...pls
lapis tree
Too OP
ashen warren
Rip dothots
calm loom
Is that link drinking coffee?
ashen warren
yes
quiet abyss
Phantoplasm got moved from post provi to post ml
calm loom
Lovely
desert juniper
Oh wow
desert juniper
Then it's off the charts op
sleek wigeon
Then having powerful weapons using phantoplasm makes even more sense
lapis tree
Yes. Definitely
ashen warren
With maxed damage buffs that's a 1750 damage bomb fyi
sleek wigeon
Break the linearity right open etc
lapis tree
All you need to do is beat ML then get your scuba gear, get tenebris, go to the dungeon farm some enemies for phanto and kill eidolists for lumenyl
calm loom
Oh wow I have exactly 100 stars
lapis tree
and maybe your depth
if you ever need more dont forget to farm astralgeon
but doesntthat mean
you can farm astralgeon..
for infinite lunar fragments
calm loom
^
quiet abyss
Eeyup
desert juniper
Ye
lapis tree
nerf way too much
proven tide
edalion wyverns holy fuck
lapis tree
even astralgeon is gonna be like eating with that power of a weapon
ashen warren
jesus adir work on all english
quiet abyss
Eidolon summoning weapon sounds cool...but a weapon that’s yharon tier at pre DoG? I’m very iffy on that
sleek wigeon
“Brealors anvil”
lapis tree
you could use other helpful mods for yharon
sleek wigeon
...why?
bitter drift
post polter to be exact
lapis tree
farm anything good from revengeance, something like community or affliction from normal expert that could help
you dont need extra op weapons from abyss
i never needed abyss items to beat DoG
desert juniper
^
lapis tree
i think ill leave now
bitter drift
me to just another reason for it to get in
quiet abyss
The fact that I have to star every suggestions that's not too low effort/stupid/meme, even ones I don't like/find not very good, is slowly killing me on the inside 
ashen warren
rip pinkie
earnest raptor
@sleek wigeon why not?
bitter drift
sorry for ya
now you feel what i feel every time someone tell me grammar problems
earnest raptor
I'm think, was original using of Ancient Manipulator (refining and using Luminite) was enough for these crafting station.
sleek wigeon
AM is fine. No need to upgrade it for no reason
quiet abyss
I tend to hold off my ideas until I refine them enough to my satisfaction or give up on them after I find that the suggestion is way too ridiculous so I don't post suggestions that often
sleek wigeon
You left?
quiet abyss
@scenic galleon Fabsol tried to fix it, but it still persists. It'll be fixed sooner or later
sleek wigeon
Noone noticed you absence
scenic galleon
ok
bitter drift
jesses
ashen warren
jesus fuck @ashen warren
worthy fiber
put that in a doc man
proven tide
jESuS
ashen warren
Lots of effort and I’m on mobile
quiet abyss
Jesus christ
proven tide
My STAND! @hybrid cipher!
bitter drift
and everyone saying that i have long suggestions
hybrid cipher
nani
proven tide
#suggestions-voting @hybrid cipher
bitter drift
well not as this
hybrid cipher
put it in a doc next time thanks
ashen warren
Mk
"Note: Tarragon would be removed from Auric Tesla in order to avoid using an armor set in 2 other sets. Probably find another armor to replace the Tarragon set" no need
Why?
Auric tesla and holy defender would be 3 armors each then
bitter drift
what
sleek wigeon
Braelors armor is terragon armor smh
quiet abyss
I think that's the point. Beetle is prolly trying to go for a superpowered Tarragon armor.
lapis tree
if that would happen extra ueibloom would need to be generated (most unlikely im gonna be disagreed with)
quiet abyss
Or atleast, upgraded/enchanted
ashen warren
That and it’s made sense from a lore point, imo
sleek wigeon
Yeah but braelor isnt all that strong, compared to like yharim
lapis tree
or draedon?
dull kite
that is indeed a big suggestion
ashen warren
Becoming the new tyrant or being a saviour
sleek wigeon
That lores no longer existant iirc
quiet abyss
Nonono, Braelor lives because his men throw themselves at Yharim to buy Braelor's time.
ashen warren
Lemme check wiki
ashen warren
Did people forget the fact Provi blessed him and WTF
quiet abyss
I didn't
ashen warren
No more Braelor lore?
sleek wigeon
Provi didnt bless him
ashen warren
Seriously?
sleek wigeon
Not that im aware
ashen warren
Wow, that is just sad
quiet abyss
Either the lores got removed...or the lores for them both are being redone
bitter drift
she curst him
quiet abyss
Most likely, the latter
worthy fiber
nah he was blessed iirc
bitter drift
jokes
sleek wigeon
Provi hates everone who touches her core
ashen warren
^^^^
bitter drift
her staff
ashen warren
_> what staff
bitter drift
if you don't believe me look at the lore
ashen warren
Um, does Providence have her own staff?
bitter drift
yes
ashen warren
Lemme look at the wiki
bitter drift
or is it been updated
worthy fiber
staff?
ashen warren
Provi doesn’t drop a staff and the lore hasnt changed
worthy fiber
Closest to that is the energy staff
quiet abyss
We went from discussing about the armor's relation to the lore...to just the lore.
Wanna go back to the armor?
ashen warren
Yes
bitter drift
ok or any other suggestion
ashen warren
@scenic galleon That Suggestion. I like it
ashen warren
Oooof
honestly it's probably the best suggestion i've seen in a long time and i am personally quite partial to having a "dark" and "light" path for yharim
Thankyou
bitter drift
double oooooooooofffff
ashen warren
Calamity may be dark but it needs light
worthy fiber
smh
ashen warren
The fuck
quiet abyss
@ashen warren Oi, it's ya training. Delete those 2 suggestions
bitter drift
the 3th if have good
proven tide
He was ordered not to IIRC?
ashen warren
He told us to leave them
quiet abyss
Ah, I see
ashen warren
No idea why, but he did
quiet abyss
I thought you're meant to delete them. My bad
ashen warren
No worries
quiet abyss
People will ask questions though since the training dummy role is gone
ashen warren
OMEGA OOF
quiet abyss
Reminds me of when someone suggested a plague yoyo dropped by PBG when there is already one
proven tide
oh my gOd
bitter drift
there is one
proven tide
that was actually pain to look at
quiet abyss
Eh it's fine
ashen warren
Another thing about the holy defeder armor is that it could be a more offensive option because of how auric tesla revives you from death and gives you invulnerability
Yeah, that kinda was the idea 
Sorry i just really like that suggestion
No problem
quiet abyss
If I had to deal with more...questionable suggestions I might just changed my pfp and name to "XIsNotAmused" again soon
ashen warren
Lol
bitter drift
ashen warren
So, anything wrong with Holy Defender
quiet abyss
Suggestions are like mines.
You'll find near worthless rocks quite common, with a couple gems here and there, and rarely a diamond
ashen warren
4% of boss health is borked however it's scal armor so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I go now for small bit
Leave me notes
A meteor armor throwback would be nice by making it that all magic guns are free
ashen warren
Highest one is post dog iirc so not borked
This isn't a problem with the armor itself really but there are no launchers post DoG
Give guardian helm yoyo bag or something because of the yoyo/flail damage boost
"You throw two of your weapon instead of one" celestus...
other than those small tweaks it's basically perfect imo
And unfortunately, the diamond only looks good, but is ultimately worthless and only hyped up by idiots.
quiet abyss
@kindred belfry First off, 20 is way too excessive. Make it 5 at max.
Second, put your posts into one single post so all of it can be sent to devs.
ashen warren
i have a suggestion for buffing throwing class so it actually doesn't suck at th pre-mech boss tier. would like to discuss it first though.
Basically it involves 3 additions:
Throwing emblem (15% increased throwing damage) dropped by wall of flesh. This can be included in future recipes.
Unicorn Spear (sticks to enemies. upgrade to bone spear)
Magma Glove (boneglove + fire gauntlet) same as bone glove except increased damage/knockback and inflicts on fire buff.
thoughts?
kindred belfry
@quiet abyss gocha and gocha
quiet abyss
👍
versed grotto
@bitter drift wtf is with your suggestions lmao
bitter drift
what do you mean
quiet abyss
adir needs quite a bit of grammar/vocabulary polishing ye, but that's as best he can do right now so
ruby cobalt
No, he really doesn't.
The worst thing is that it swings like a pendulum, sometimes grammar's good, and sometimes - well, yeah.
bitter drift
i also use the auto fix for the grammar of discord
opal barn
@ashen warren It doesn't take that much time on death mode, you can easily finish the fight within daytime
worthy raptor
Yeah, that's an issue with your gear / strats
versed grotto
@ashen warren craft a daylight
and each time you're almost close to night just use it
it's very cheap post ml
and shouldn't take much time to use it each 10 minutes
earnest raptor
Might be... separate these things?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s617z8yBNF-UiMB_jUHQdT50xr_fuYNpNPz5pB88bjM/edit?usp=drivesdk
ashen warren
Odditer, as much as I respect you, that is a dumb suggestion.
ruby cobalt
No, it actually makes sense.
ruby cobalt
Nah, it stops the constant suggestion spam and makes it so that there's less work for mods.
spice cedar
I think it'd make sense to close it, at least until development starts again, otherwise 99% of any suggestions posted would be too far up to scroll to see to be implemented
tired haven
I agree. There is no point to post them rn, polishing can be done there and early sharing will do nothing
though you can find far-seeing people by how they halt making suggestions for now themselves
spice cedar
Some people might have good suggestions but not a lot of common sense
We could have a pin that reminds people development has stopped, or add it to the channel description
ruby cobalt
Which is a pretty bad fucking idea considering we have 2 channels that explicitly tell people to read pins and one whole rule about that and nobody still reads pins.
And that's especially true about channel descriptions.
bitter topaz
the only way to get people to read the pins is changing the server name to Calamity Mod Discord_read_pins at this point
ashen warren
Or the channel is named with read the fucking pins you pinheads
ashen warren
Then how do they operate on Discord
spice cedar
Carefully
ruby cobalt
Locking it down is the safest option at this point although I already can see hordes of idiots asking wAi DEdE U LAWXX suggEzDioNE
How do they operate? Black magic, that's the only reasonable explanation.
ashen warren
Yes
calm loom
Yeah, at least a pin would make sense
And besides, most suggestions don’t make it in anyways
Locking it Wouldn’t do any harm
ashen warren
Locking it would be unnecessary and make people feel like it’s something exclusive
ashen warren
That’s my opinion
calm loom
Well, meh
I mean, yeah
Maybe it’s not fair to lock or disable messages
Hot damn! I looked back at my suggestion to see 100 stars! I’m happy again.
ashen warren
Lemme find it
ashen warren
Nice
calm loom
The one above banana mans pet suggestion
Yeah, I figured lol
Imagine if that made it into the game
ashen warren
Be pretty nice
calm loom
Yeah
Celestial towers always were a pain because they felt like an unecessary pushover
neon panther
I love how Evan got everyone used to calling me bananaman lol
bitter topaz
the towers are a pain because it's a stupid difficulty spike
everything moves through walls suddenly, everything hits like a truck
the AI of some enemies is rage inducing
bitter topaz
solar pillar is by far the best example for what's wrong with the pillars as a whole
calm loom
Yes
bitter topaz
the gimmick of staying on the ground would be fine and dandy if everything there didn't 2 shot you
neon panther
I don’t even bother with the pillars tbh. I just use god mode for them
calm loom
That’s also why I made my suggestion
Many people really wouldn’t bother
At least I think people wouldn’t
I have a morally ambiguous question concerning stars and suggestions
bitter topaz
you mean starring your own suggestion?
bitter topaz
it's very much frowned upon
neon panther
it’s allowed but frowned upon basically
neon panther
You won’t get banned or anything, just fussed at 
calm loom
Lol
Ok
I’m not going to be narcissistic and star my own suggestion, that already had 100 stars anyways
ruby cobalt
star 4 star?
ashen warren
did i hear black market
ruby cobalt
No, get out and look for your code.
ruby cobalt
ashen warren
ruby cobalt
Smh get out of #suggestions-discussion.
calm loom
No more
ashen warren
People who star their own suggestions are people who are, well, desperate?
calm loom
Narcissistic too
ashen warren
I star most of my suggestions, since, well, I like them
calm loom
Also, is that pfp supposed to represent one of the Fargo souls?
calm loom
Cool I guessed correctly
ashen warren
I have three of them
neon panther
I only starred one of mine iirc, and it was because it was stuck at 34
ashen warren
_> mire status messages
calm loom
So vote for iris because we all want salt messages from scal
ashen warren
I love the worm quote
dull kite
what
ruby cobalt
dull kite
oh
ruby cobalt
I smell a meemay.
dull kite
or maybe he's just stupid 
ruby cobalt
or a low effort one (because I see 0 effort in it, hahues)
ruby cobalt
Sure.
ruby cobalt
Alrighty
novel fulcrum
its mostly for the cosmetic look of the server
bitter topaz
iirc the reason no-one can change their nicknames without trial-mod, cooldudes etc. is to avoid cluttering the audit log with nickname changes
ruby cobalt
#idiot_log still exists though.
bitter topaz
#idiot_log is only for bans/warns, and the audit log lets anyone with access to it check if bans were warranted
dull kite
Idiot log is only for punishments, yeah.
bitter topaz
since iirc it'll store any message deleted due to being banned, or if deleted by a mod
ruby cobalt
Audit log actually stores everything
Deleted messages, added/removed emotes, bans, kicks.
cyan lagoon
wrong
ruby cobalt
Dunno about kicks though.
tranquil shard
Yeah, that's what audit log does
cyan lagoon
audit logs do not keep information from deleted messages
ruby cobalt
They store the fact that message was deleted.
ruby cobalt
But, however, they don't store the deleted messages that were caused by a ban.
That's how I remember it.
devout seal
Umm..
The future bosses are just that, Future versions of the bosses.
Why would SCal know they even exist, if SCal's just a mage, and doesn't have the soul artifacts.
Why would she mention something that, in the game's current timeline, isn't a thing yet?
versed grotto
@gusty geode omg no
like
wraiths in prehm
just no
everytime you try to go up wyvern blasts u
off orbit
don't even think about going to hell the scorn eater will tear you appart
this is just way too much for even a difficult mode
frosty kindle
too much of a joke suggestion. deleted.
gusty geode
It requires strategy and advanced planning, it could provide a unique challenge that, once fully understood, isn't as hard as you'd think
frosty kindle
impossible to play, anyways
versed grotto
^
frosty kindle
its daytime, then its dying like 10,000 times over at night
and earth elementals and slimes etc will shrek you
versed grotto
oh i forgot to mention
post scal
scorn eaters and immotilaters get buffed
to like millions of hp
gusty geode
I wasn't joking 
versed grotto
that's like replacing every zombie with the dungeon guardian
frosty kindle
that suggestion was on-par for a joke, however... @gusty geode
hollow shell
@gusty geode Eye of Cthulhu doesn't drop bloodstone
bitter topaz
gusty geode
It did iirc, did that change
bitter topaz
its always been ravager, cloneamitas and brimmy
frosty kindle
^ as with some enemies in profaned crags
gusty geode
Could have sworn EoC got a post-Prov buff and dropped bloodstone
hollow shell
nnnope
gusty geode
One sec
frosty kindle
nope
gusty geode
Shit
quiet abyss
EoC never drops bloodstone post provi lmao
gusty geode
I could have sworn it was like that at one point
quiet abyss
It wasnt. Never had been
gusty geode
I'll just delete that
quiet abyss
I was about to say “we already have a lot of astrum deus summon suggestions” then I read the suggestion lmfao
calm loom
Woah
ionic dragon
polar grove
yes
calm loom
Yes
I want
Assuming hells depth isn’t hard coded
The same logic absolutely applies
polar grove
that suggestion tho
that would not work at all cause it would basically take souls out of the game
bitter topaz
you can seed corruption/crimson/hallow manually
or if you're impatient place down the 200 blocks yourself
polar grove
yea but its still way easier to just get it from the world evils
sleek wadi
A spread stopper would be better. Keeps the biome, removing them doesn't undo the damage it might have already caused, and we can expect post-ML content from them in the future.
polar grove
a spread stopper would be way better
waxen knot
Hello, I want to ask you why the calamity mod does not work, when I enter the game I get this error
sinful violet
tight chasm
waxen knot
oh ok
lusty idol
Calamitous Essence isn't necessarily for Dev items only, and Shadowspec Bars are, would Calamitous Essence be used to make something else when SCal becomes part of prog.?
Need some of that I N F O R M A T I O N for a suggestion.
hollow shell
@lusty idol They used to be built with Snow Bricks but then many people complained that it looked bad
so it was changed to ice blocks to fit into the terrain better
sleek wadi
Thought it was ice bricks
hollow shell
also it's called the Ice Tomb
not the Snow Pyramid
and yeah it was some kind of brick
lusty idol
Ah
Welp, no need for that to clog up that channel.
Thanks for the background on that.
Although, their size is pretty big. It should probably be smaller. It may look better with Snow Bricks if its smaller. But ehh.
hybrid ocean
y tho
bitter topaz
because it doesn't need a buff, it's intentionally weak compared to its piers
it's meant for little more than farming
hybrid ocean
when is he supposed to be fought?
sleek wadi
Because for some reason Astrum Deus is important enough to get a boss that leads up to it.
hybrid ocean
then decrease hp
bitter topaz
glorified miniboss
bitter topaz
it's treated as a "boss" stat wise but nothing else
lusty idol
its intentionally not supposed to have a big purpose.
sleek wadi
Yeah it's purpose is to give you the material needed for Starcore.
hybrid ocean
and lunar frags
lusty idol
Well duh it has a purpose. But like I said, not a big one @sleek wadi
bitter topaz
it was only buffed to "boss" status as an indicator that it needs to be fought before astrum
literally the only reason
hybrid ocean
i literally fought it pre-mech
bitter topaz
since astrum's spawner used to use living shards instead, it was added to the checklist etc. so people wouldn't bitch about how 2 get anal gelly etc.
hybrid ocean
if it's supposed to be fought later then make it seem like that 
bitter topaz
again, for the last time.
it's a glorified miniboss
it's classed as a "boss" for solely mechanical purposes
not because it's supposed to be a proper boss
it literally wasn't even counted as a boss until astral jelly was introduced
hybrid ocean
i bet the one-shot post-ML is just for memes
bitter topaz
the one shot post-ml is for the memes iirc
since if you get hit by a KS rehash you deserve to die
gusty geode
If they can be blocked like, say, a Dark Caster's projectiles, it might be at least a bit balanced
quiet abyss
Homing projectiles I’m fine with if their homing capacity ain’t too godly
digital saddle
Post ml astrageldon is already aids
quiet abyss
Rev+ Post ml astrageldon aint that bad to avoid imo
digital saddle
Does it count as a boss suggestion if I suggest a boss get moved
quiet abyss
By “not accepting boss suggestions”, they mean suggestions for new bosses. Suggestions about changing something of the existing bosses are allowed
@gusty geode You mean like...a more strict #help-advice-read-pins ?
gusty geode
Not necessarily help-style questions, stuff like why things are a certain way
I kinda wanna know why the Shockstorm Shuttle exists
lusty idol
@gusty geode In #calamity-mod-talk or #general-talk , you're able to ask those types of questions. If it's something Calamity related, you can talk in the CM Talk, even in general talk since you can talk about almost anything.
gusty geode
Like I said, I wanted a seperate channel so the questions wouldn't get buried before they could be answered
lusty idol
I can relate to your problem, but it really depends on when and somewhat how you ask the question. I do want someone to answer it asap, and sometimes it happens, but you'll just have to wait until the right time.
gusty geode
Fair enough I guess
lusty idol
I try to look out for signs, such as a fast moving chat, maybe prolonged talking about a topic, or everyone is just conversating their own thing. General_talk is much harder since there's more people and somewhat fast moving.
earnest raptor
About stars.
I'm not stars my suggestions, because it's a chessing.
And, i'm chesse.
lament turret
Not seeds or solution
It can only spread naturally
Druid only sells the seeds on the Blood Moon, and only of your world's evil
cyan lagoon
But im down for solutions being changed
lament turret
Same with EoC dropping seeds
steep island
Move steampuker to evil island, buy solution
lament turret
Doesn't work like that
steep island
Fuck
lament turret
- NPCs can't move to evil biomes
cyan lagoon
Warp her there
steep island
^
lament turret
- Steampunker also sells evil solution on Blood Moons only
steep island
also j
lament turret
It doesn't work like that, Cobalion
cyan lagoon
steep island
also just make an alt world
lament turret
That's... not how that works.
The whole point of adding the evil floating islands is to prevent that
No NPCs (save for maybe the painter. Let me check that) sell anything new or different in evil biomes.
Because NPCs do not naturally go into evil biomes
Yeah. Painter's the only exception, and he sells a painting depending on which evil biome
earnest raptor
imkSushi?
ashen warren
It’s a QoL mod
neon panther
minor spelling issue, Eleum doesn’t have an e at the end
neon panther
but overall it’s good i guess
ashen warren
Thanks
quiet abyss
“5% chance to summon two minions at the price of one” Welp time to spend an hour proccing this on all slots
ashen warren
How do I fix this then my friends?
quiet abyss
Jokes aside, the luck base mechanic of this is quite iffy for me. Like, if its something like “The first summon will summon twice as many minions for the price of one” and it doesnt work on cosmic, then I guess it could works?
ancient dragon
Yeah, RNG on something as major as a minion slot is begging to be abused.
quiet abyss
Though then people will use this for 2 nuggets at price of 4 slots. Hmmm...
ashen warren
Hmm. I’ll change this
quiet abyss
Or maybe
“The first minion you summon will be more powerful than normal. Does not work on summon requiring 5 slots or more”
ashen warren
Oh, I changed it so that if it needs more than on slot, it will fill one of the required slots
quiet abyss
...Now I know why I tend to not make suggestions often. I tend to throw my ideas to others and let them use it
ashen warren
quiet abyss
“The first minion you summon will be more powerful than normal. Does not work on summon requiring 5 slots or more” smh I could’ve used that as an idea for a summoner acc...
ashen warren
Dew it
ancient dragon
Hey man, it'll still get in nonetheless.
If his suggestion gets sent and accepted ofc.
quiet abyss
Lmao true
ancient dragon
All elemental weapons have it
quiet abyss
Elemental mix is post ml debuff dude
ancient dragon
You might be thinking of Exofreeze.
ashen warren
Oh yeah Exo freez
earnest raptor
ALLL
quiet abyss
Exo freeze aint in elemental mix
ashen warren
Lol
neon panther
I usually make little QoL changes and such, but recently I’m getting more and more far fetched. Incoming slightly far fetched idea
ancient dragon
That's a really cool idea.
ashen warren
I LOVE IT
earnest raptor
Elemental mix right after DoG?!
Three times more powerful and inflict even to DoG and Yharon.
ashen warren
That’s far fetched
ancient dragon
Hyperin for Official Idea Man™ when?
desert juniper
hmmm
neon panther
:3
quiet abyss
What about contact damage? Unless while phasing you’re untargettable. Which I dont see being mentioned anywhere
ancient dragon
It's a teleport, therefore if an enemy is in the way of the teleport, you gain the buff.
neon panther
shit I forgot to add I-frames
ancient dragon
You'll come out behind them, I'd imagine.
neon panther
oo I like that actually
I was thinking spawn on top with a few I-frames but spawning behind makes more sense
quiet abyss
Although .... x5 damage for 7 secs? That’s basically bootleg deathmode adrenaline
earnest raptor
Maybe only on melee strikes?
ancient dragon
Hm, yeah. 500% increase is pretty busted. Maybe just have something like Thorium's 'backstab' where you gain a tremendous damage buff for your next attack.
neon panther
I mean it’s balanceable for sure
ancient dragon
The two don't correlate now that I think about it but shhhh.
Either way, yeah. Just have your next attack be supercharged and maybe apply an on-hit effect like Marked for Death or somethin'.
thorn canyon
what if it telefragged normal enemies (non-bosses or something)
ancient dragon
Lolno.
thorn canyon
😦
ancient dragon
It wouldn't even fit Signus himself since he doesn't really telefrag. *teleports behind you* works way better.
thorn canyon
meh ok
quiet abyss
Make the bosses and enemies (except scal and maybe some other bosses) lose their immunity to marked for death with the cloak equipped tbh.
ancient dragon
Oh yeah, kinda like Exofreeze where everything's susceptible to it except Yharon and co.
earnest raptor
And also. I'm changed 3 times to 10 TIMES.
thorn canyon
W O A H
neon panther
How’s that?
ancient dragon
You're going off the deep end with that and into the realm of hyperbole. It stops being balanced. @earnest raptor
thorn canyon
quiet abyss
I just want mourning star to be buffed tbh
ancient dragon
Sssssame.
quiet abyss
I like flails like it and solar eruption but they’re both so damn underpowered
Cosmic discharge is fine
thorn canyon
gonna repost my net idea from 2 months ago, is that ok?
ancient dragon
tfw Nebulash is already stronger than Solar Eruption but everything afterwards gets shafted
quiet abyss
If your suggestion is atleast over a week old you can repost
thorn canyon
yey ok
neon panther
I wonder if it’s possible to get Dev role on suggestions alone
quiet abyss
Nah. You gotta help Fabsol or the dev team with something enough in order for you to be dev. Like coding stuffs or makng sprites.
neon panther
Well I cant sprite for shit. Actually learning how to code would be the most overall helpful, too.
ancient dragon
How much would that net you?
thorn canyon
a lot
neon panther
spider web version that inflicts webbed debuff when
ancient dragon
Also, 'capture'?
thorn canyon
i came up with this idea after i accidentally killed a golden bird
yeah like when you hit something with the bug net and then you can collect it
it would drop and the net would as well
ancient dragon
Oh, so for critters and such. Gotcha.
ancient dragon
Mhm.
I'm kinda romancing an idea of tacking enough ropes onto bosses to the point where they just fall out of a lack of movement space.
Just drop on the ground like a sack o' shit from the inability to move.
thorn canyon
Rope: 1. Yharon: 0
ancient dragon
Kinda like Monster Hunter and its traps, ig.
neon panther
it would make copper shortsword vs Yharon viable
just net him until he falls on the floor
ancient dragon
Catch the dergon.
neon panther
and hit him with the shortsword
thorn canyon
how to train your dragon: Terraria version