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#suggestions-discussion
calm loom
tired haven
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neon panther
Ye people have suggested stuff like cosmolite coins before
I hope something like that gets in
idle obsidian
Aw shit
idle obsidian
I am fairly new had no idea about it
neon panther
it’s all good but ye it’s been suggested before
dense nebula
prob one of the most common suggestions apparent from hit counter counter for scal
elder mist
cosmolite coin 
dense nebula
auric coin 
calm loom
It’s not a bad idea
Platinum stacks way too easy
Especially for me, humble brag, rune plus deathmode player
idle obsidian
Tbh i only wrote it since i had sonething more in mind than just a new coin tier, and that something can be easily implemented
calm loom
Yep
Why does no one keep the coin gun in mind when making those suggestions?
Doesn’t anyone realize how powerful that gun will get if a new tier is added?
neon panther
Unless you know, they don’t make it’s damage op
idle obsidian
Just dont make that tier an ammo then duh
calm loom
Then include that
neon panther
no if it’s a coin then it should be in the coin gun
dull kite
Yeah that prolly wouldn’t be a good idea here
cyan lagoon
but i have to star it because requirement
neon panther
no you don’t iirc
idle obsidian
Plus you have yo, y'know shoot it
neon panther
you don’t have to
dull kite
, it doesn’t break rules
calm loom
Coin gun would be the new god weapon
idle obsidian
You would have to farm mpney to shoot that thing
calm loom
Hilarious
idle obsidian
It's 100 plats
neon panther
unless it didnt do a lot of damage
neon panther
it’d do more than platinum coins for sure, but even coin gun with plat gets outclassed by calamity weapons
calm loom
Yeah
But damage is multiplied, so a new tier would make it ultra viable
But meh
Just a funny little theory I picked up on
tall rock
I have an idea: Make a male alternative to the elementals to appeal to the gays and straight girls.
calm loom
Hmm?
crude quartz
planned(? maybe maybe not) things that I heard about a ways back
calm loom
Okie dokie
violet talon
also
calm loom
A serious chat?
crude quartz
grammar
calm loom
Me?
crude quartz
nah the image
dull kite
it's in the suggestion
crude quartz
Evan's pfp is godly
dull kite
Smh guys talk about my godly pfp in general
calm loom
Ok
ruby cobalt
@hybrid cipher
sinful violet
that seems like a meme smh
there will be no accessory to "appeal to the gays"
there are male elementals planned however
tall rock
I know
sinful violet
that they're planned?
tall rock
That and it's a stupid idea
dull kite
I mean would you call it a meme suggestion? This boye doesn’t really seem like he’s meming
tall rock
For there to be alternatives
sinful violet
then don't suggest it, if you already know it's stupid
hybrid cipher
there are male alternatives planned? 
sinful violet
Yeah, but the phrasing "to appeal to the gays" is largely a meme
art server cob
smh
Zig's profaned dude
tall rock
Didn't really that anyone would take it seriously
sinful violet
try to avoid memeing there then
tall rock
Fine
dull kite
hybrid cipher
@violet talon #general-talk
violet talon
huh?
hybrid cipher
your suggestion
violet talon
ok, ill just delete it
neon panther
to be fair whenever chats in there get “serious” most people say “take that to DM’s, we don’t need these topics in the server” or something along those lines
delicate raft
46 lol
digital sparrow
In my experience, the RoD is strange when switching to with mouse wheel, like when using a weapon there’s a strange delay on switching to it
A hot key that teleports you to mouse cursor and gives the debuff if you have the RoD in inventory would be amazing
opal barn
The delay is there because of the use time of certain weapons
For example Antimateriel rifle
You can't switch out of it that fast because of that
digital sparrow
Yeah, and as a mage it’s really infuriating and makes me take unnecessary damage
Because of really high use times on some mage weapons
calm loom
cough cough LAST PRISM cough cough
unique vector
imo i would rather have you to be able to combine the RoD with the counter scarf
that might be a little too much late game when you're able to combine their effects instead of having to switch scarf for something else
but i would rather have it in my accessory slot and then use keybind
hollow shell
@ashen warren Luminite?
ashen warren
yeah luminite wha?
hollow shell
You should mention Moon Lord, because you didn't.
You should mention Cosmilite Bars, because you didn't name them.
ashen warren
fixed it
hollow shell
That's not much better but okay
ancient crow
@digital sparrow look up the Discordant Charm/Shades from WeaponOut
Also the Discordant/Chaotic Hook
frozen jay
do devs actually like ever take ideas from suggestions and put them ingame?
sinful violet
mhm
frozen jay
example?
cyan lagoon
sinful violet
Amalgam, GSS, Reaper claws
cyan lagoon
reaper claws?
sinful violet
uh
cyan lagoon
leaks smh
brave warren
bad mod
neon panther
what’s this
cyan lagoon
@a is Alphi btw
brave warren
now we kno it's a possibility
thank you brrp
frozen jay
ye
neon panther
claws becomes viable subclass when
neon panther
maybe if my elemental claws got in we can have exo claws
gusty geode
I notice that a lot of my latest suggestions have gotten lots of stars but no discussion, is that a good thing
gusty geode
Was going to scroll up and star the first suggestion of yours that I saw but I don't see any 
neon panther
a lot of mine dont get stars because i post it at the wrong time or maybe they're just bad
tight chasm
@ashen warren future bosses will receive their own sprites at some point
gusty geode
This is really just a fantasy, but a really cool rework to Summoner would be if the minions had health and could be attacked/damaged/killed by enemies, giving Summoners something to do besides dodge in a fight.
To compensate, maybe increase the amount of minions you can hold at once.
lunar dirge
I actually like the idea of how the summons can get killed
But more minion slots? Don't think it's needed
tight chasm
@lunar dirge erm vanilla already has a ninja belt
lunar dirge
Nop' it's named black belt
tight chasm
alright
opal barn
Twin Crissaegrim
Yes please
hollow shell
@digital saddle Isn't it normal to have to refight bosses to get the materials you need?
digital saddle
yes but plant is kind of absurd
have to fight her several times to get all the loot you probably want
fervent zealot
yeah plant drops a painfully low amount of living shards
tight chasm
especially if you wanna make terra ammo and such
digital saddle
i guess another solution is making them craftable
like perennial + life fruit or somethign
calm loom
Twin crissaegrim looks like a cool idea!
It’ll sorta be like murasama and arkhalis
And I don’t think there’s other weapons that debuff EI frames
ancient dragon
Crissaegrim is hot, man.
calm loom
Couldn’t have said it better
I really appreciate the castlevania gif too, I’m getting some form of nostalgia right now
fervent zealot
@slender lichen you gotta put it all in one suggestion or it won't get added
slender lichen
Ah
calm loom
But I can’t blame you, dessert scourge needs more representation as a boss
slender lichen
😃
I hope devs make the soft boy a pet
he is loveable and kind
and needs love
id wear him everyday
fervent zealot
also generally don't space out your messages like that it makes people upset
calm loom
His mouth would be scarier then a xenomorphs if he was 3D
calm loom
Habits die hard here
slender lichen
I got it from playing on terraria servers all the time :/
calm loom
This ones different
slender lichen
pvp mostly
calm loom
They are pretty strict so be careful about what you say
slender lichen
can i say kneega
calm loom
No
calm loom
Anything racially discriminatory is banned
fervent zealot
the mods actually aren't that strict they just uphold the rules, some more vigorously than others
calm loom
Cussing is fine
slender lichen
epic
im gonna try and figure out how to download the mod now
I think I need modbrowser and THEN get the mod file
fervent zealot
there's an install guide for calamity specificially pinned in #help-advice-read-pins (and also just check what channel you're in before you post there generally)
looking further there's also a general tmod installation guide pinned further back
paper rain
Does “increase DoG first phase length” count as a “boss suggestion”? Idk if they mean suggestions for new bosses, or suggestions for bosses in general. I just know one of the two isn’t allowed and I don’t want to break the suggestion rules. (I’m new to this btw if you couldn’t already tell).
I meant how long the fight lasts btw @cyan lagoon. Sorry for being vague. Edited the original suggestion
delicate raft
It means new bosses.
paper rain
Ok. Thanks
paper rain
Thanks
hollow shell
Cross-Thorium content 
ashen warren
I like thorium but cross-mod sounds terribad
gusty geode
Actually, cross-mod support with Thorium isn't a bad idea
proven tide
*looks at soul of terraria
little jolt
it's not a bad idea I just think there's no way fabsol is even gonna consider doing it
proven tide
lots and lots and lots of crossmod
little jolt
Maybe once calamity is finished adding in the major content it plans to add
gusty geode
Imagine Thorium's bosses on Death Mode 
ashen warren
not that hard
ashen warren
that candle is sexy
little jolt
Polterghast themed zerg candle pls
ashen warren
double range would be nice though
"Upgrade to peace candle which has double range and applies zen buff." or something
delicate raft
Is cross-mod content even going to happen in Calamity?
neon panther
iirc calamity isnt crossing with thorium atm, but i could be wrong
sudden quail
If you're gonna suggest Bard weapons, you might wanna add what Empowerments each weapon gives.
earnest raptor
Yes!
sleek wadi
It sorta does, as abyss spawns on dungeon side specifically because of Thorium.
neon panther
actually no, it spawns like that specifically because fab made it that way so it's compatible with thorium
its not cross-content, its just so the mods dont heck eachother
ashen warren
^ most good mods do this
vernal sphinx
wait you can actually suggest Thorium-related stuff here?
proven tide
AHH OH MY GOD
What if the Devourer of Universes summoned more DoUs like the DoG used to
We're not supposed to suggest Future Boss content but goddamnit I need this
alpine garnet
Iirc removing iou is already planned
barren rain
DOU summoning DOG might be interesting
hollow shell
@digital saddle IOU an item is now Pre-WoF instead of Pre-Plantera
However, you still need Living Shards to turn them into weapons
The change isn't documented on the wiki yet, I'll work on
gettin that done
proven tide
I was about to say
quiet abyss
...A role for killing Siren in pre-HM in Death?
That doesn't sound too bad to get...it'll just be an endurance fight.
barren rain
Still pretty hard 😛
sinful violet
ehh
sleek wadi
Halibut Cannon
proven tide
^
hollow shell
Yeah that's one of the least-worthy achievements for a role I've heard
proven tide
how about pre-HM SCal
sinful violet
"ripperless yharon with xeroc"
proven tide
sinful violet
it's just kinda unnecessary and dumb
barren rain
What would it do @teal wolf ? For those of us who don't play Gungeon
teal wolf
its an axe guitar that shoots for streams of notes, obv if they added itd only be one
and reloading drops an amp that fires streams in the same direction you are shooting
essentially doubling dps
I just think shredding bosses with a working guitar would be fun
barren rain
Sounds like something you could craft with The Axe
teal wolf
basically would be a mega harp
quiet abyss
It doesn't need to be a legendary weapon to have alt fire
Remember Alpha Ray? Aether's Whisper?
Plasma Rifle?
barren rain
To be fair AW just changes the dmg type
quiet abyss
The other 2 weapons though? Alt fire
quiet abyss
It doesn't need to be legendary to have alt fire, so you can remove that part and replace it with like "A part of me really wants a magic weapon similar to the face melter in gungeon. it could also have an alt fire."
barren rain
We do need more legendries though
teal wolf
^
perforator would make sense since its got some sick metal
also melting faces fits with the crimson
barren rain
and corr with the theme of acid
teal wolf
it could be a meat guitar
barren rain
The hallow needs some love though
teal wolf
I feel like pre hm bosses could totally get leggos just theyd potentially be locked to post wof
or something since leggos are real good
delicate raft
Hallow will get love
barren rain
But srsly, the Hallow doesn't even get love from Vanilla like Corr/crim does
delicate raft
Hallow will get love
barren rain
Howso?
worthy fiber
F for Rylunter
earnest raptor
Changed.
teal wolf
what would be a good name for the guitar thingy?
barren rain
Isn't it Ethereal? Not Etherial?
earnest raptor
Changed.
teal wolf
I was thinking some kinda of shredding reference that isnt face melter so it isnt a blatant copy
anyone got an idea for what it could be
ooh it could be crafted from a part dropped by hive mind and a part dropped by perf
since you do have the ability to fight both with calamity
gusty geode
100% pick power is nowhere near enough at that stage
frosty kindle
^
gusty geode
triple that and I imagine it would work
brazen yarrow
Amalgam: Change it so its just everything u crafted into one but then buff everything that you used to craft it lol idk
brazen yarrow
Supreme Amalgam
earnest raptor
Amalgamitas
brazen yarrow
The true boss.
frosty kindle
Supreme Amalgamitas
vivid blaze
I mean that's a pretty easy name
Amalgamated Core 🤷
worthy fiber
Amalgam's as bad as its sprite 
frosty kindle
frosty kindle
you saw nothing
sudden quail
I was actually responding to willow but your error did catch my attention before
quiet abyss
@frosty kindle ...I can't help but notice:
"Reduce the DoT of harmful debuffs (except Potion Sickness, Chaos state, Mana sickness, Scarf cooldown, Godslayer cooldown)"
DoT = Damage Over TIme
...?
sudden quail
except
quiet abyss
You prolly mean "Reduce the duration"
frosty kindle
hm
calm loom
The amalgam isn’t used to craft anything, is it?
frosty kindle
either that, but at the same time i was thinking of reducing damage per tick of harmful debuffs
(e.g godslayer inferno does less damage per tick)
but that would be an ass to code, so i'll change it
sleek wadi
Well I mean, it would reduce the damage of DoTs so it's technically right?
quiet abyss
What I don't get is why Potion Sickness is included in the "exception" when it already does no DoT
quiet abyss
Mhm ye, I understand
calm loom
I dunno, would my suggestion be an ass to code?
frosty kindle
where was it?
calm loom
Scroll up a little bit
frosty kindle
ah, the one with 67 stars?
frosty kindle
seems like a good idea
calm loom
Thanks
sleek wadi
Shouldn't be too difficult
calm loom
Just something I always thought would be pretty cool for the celestial events
I’m no spriter, nor a modder
But I am a dreamer
tulip prawn
oooh nice, on the subject of all those calamity-thorium cross-mod ideas I did some designs the other day of some calamity boss bard instruments lol
calm loom
I don’t have hopes too high, but I can’t help but be encouraged by a seemingly high star count
Considering I posted mine this morning
quiet abyss
Cross contents, if even considered at all, have extremely low chances of getting in.
Cross contents require the devs from 2 mods agreeing to working together.
gusty geode
One of my posts got enough, too
It was for new enemies that drop the mech boss souls, which spawn after one of the bosses that also drop it is killed
calm loom
What is the requirement for even?
frosty kindle
tbh i would love a calamity-thorium cross. but it won't happen, seeing as Thorium has taken sides with SacredTools iirc
calm loom
Their loss
quiet abyss
High stars post are more likely to get in, since more stars = more people wants it, which gives more obligation to the devs to add it.
But again, it depends on if the devs like the suggestion. A suggestion that got very high stars, but aren't liked by the devs still most likely wouldn't get in.
calm loom
So it’s mostly dev bias that wins it over? Understandable
I hope mine at least somewhat appeals to them
frosty kindle
^ and even if your suggestion got the ✅ , it only means all/most devs have SEEN it. but might not get into the game
Danny's pinned message explains it very well.
frosty kindle
i hope yours DOES get in however, since it has a lot of potential to expand on the othewise BORING lunar event.
quiet abyss
People shouldn't worry about whether their suggestion got in or not.
Why worry about something that entirely depends on the choices of the development team?
Just be like "Oh hey, my post 35+ stars, now we'll just have to see whether it gets in or not. If not, oh well."
calm loom
Oh
quiet abyss
370 suggestions.
HOO boy indeed
sinful violet
So only the most crucial, highly voted things are going to be considered and brought in
frosty kindle
so why didn't they put the ✅ on each one?
sinful violet
i wonder
calm loom
Is the week old suggestion rule still in play?
frosty kindle
i mean it was only introduced recently
wasn't it 1 month? idk
quiet abyss
The "can't repost until a week has passed"?
Yes, still in play
frosty kindle
o nvm, syg's pinned message
ancient dragon
Reminder that the Thorium devs didn't really 'side' with anyone, they just agreed to helping with content for ST.
Nothing stops them from doing the same with Calamity.
frosty kindle
oh, right
Abaddon themed Bard weapon or bust
ancient dragon
calm loom
I don’t really see it happening, but it would be pretty nifty
Poor dm dokuro, gonna have to remix for Thorium too😂
Anyways
sinful violet
Hardly
frosty kindle
Dokuro won't ever do OST for other mods, unless it's his own mod
calm loom
Huh
frosty kindle
specified in a coffee break video
calm loom
Never saw that one
If a suggestion doesn’t get talked too much about, is that ok? I read pins and now I’m doubting if a relatively high star count will do it.
Someone please answer I am mentally shackled right now
sleek wadi
Shouldn't matter too much
vital grotto
it's not though
calm loom
But is that even lore freindly?
A mushroom clump with modern ballistic weapons?
It just doesn’t add up to me
vital grotto
does the fungal clump have some sort of tie to the lore?
worthy fiber
nope
vital grotto
then it's not a problem
worthy fiber
I think it’s just better to say to give the clump a more “shroomite” aesthetic
calm loom
I think you should make the “upgrade” part a little more specific
Were you aiming for something like a mobile turret?
vital grotto
not quite sure
most of that is left up to the spriters either way
i'd say "cyborg" or "android" though
calm loom
Well put that in there, give them specific concept to work with
To me it sounds like you’re asking for, let’s say, a shroomite mobile turret that is an upgrade along with the amalgam
I honestly think it could be a cool idea if you flesh it out
It’d be like an accessory slot traded powerful minion
And of course other amalgam bonuses
obsidian nimbus
oh, the draedon's forge thing?
wanton sun
ye
obsidian nimbus
mkay
calm loom
Seemed like a bug to me
Would be oddly strange if it was intended
I gotta get slep
Night
quiet abyss
GNight 👋
calm loom
(Thanks again pinkie pie 👌)
digital sparrow
Yeah, I’ve always thought DoG should be long and hard-ish in phase 1, and phase 2 should be REALLY hard but shortish
vague olive
I dont think phase 1 is supposed to be hard, more of a warm up for phase 2
plush forge
about the ceaseless void thing: no, it was dead in under a minute even when i first fought it
desert juniper
What weapons you used?
bitter drift
so that is a bug
plush forge
ah
desert juniper
It's suppose to take 1 dmg at a time lol
plush forge
wait no thats only in expert mode
it always has 0 defense, but it has 99% DR in expert
bitter drift
you shouldn't give CV more then 2 damage max per hit
plush forge
*revengeance
desert juniper
Oh yeah
bitter drift
then how does it acts in normal
desert juniper
^
plush forge
takes massive damage
bitter drift
that why
to get the hole game you need to play rev/death
desert juniper
Ye
bitter drift
it's not the game it's you
plush forge
well rip i just wanted to ease my way in and not get instadeadded from every source
desert juniper
¯_(ツ)_/¯
analog grove
nice
vale elm
thank You
rugged finch
Boss suggestions aren't accepted if your trying to post that
vale elm
damn
then maybe let it be a miniboss
or an npc
we need a jungle cybernetical something, except the PBG
analog grove
you know
plaguebringer
sudden quail
The Mecha Drago from Mother 3
analog grove
not goliath
sudden quail
Or pretty much any Mother 3 chimera
quiet abyss
...So an npc that sells fishing crates...
That literally kills the point of fishing
tired haven
i love that
simple mortar
Well, Desert/Aquatic Scourge both drop fishing gear, which also ruins the point of fishing outside of crate/potion ingredient gathering itself (the latter is later ruined by Blood Orbs)
tired haven
Not like supreme fishing station didn't kill 90% of fishing
calm loom
The scourges drop gear that makes fishing easier , the said npc just needs to be moved through a few houses to get whatever crate ya want, at that point, there would not be a point in fishing
proven tide
^
calm loom
I think fishing is just dandy the way it is right now
calm loom
Lol so true
quiet abyss
He did say the name need improvement
calm loom
Nobody likes him tho
I always burn his voodoo doll the first chance I get to
Because he takes up space
Whether he acknowledges the name flaw or not doesn’t matter, because the npc will attempt to make a core game element lazy and obsolete
But that not saying it can’t be fleshed out with some effort
simple mortar
fishing isn't core though V:
ashen warren
Hardly a core game element when you can completely ignore it without any ill
That and it's one of the weakest implementations of fishing I've ever seen in a game
calm loom
But it is something many people enjoy within the community
And the point still stands
An npc like that would completely destroy the point of fishing
simple mortar
Let people who don't like fishing spend money on crates then :v
i personally don't care for it, it's a pain to make lakes everywhere
calm loom
But then what’s the point? Because people who do “enjoy” fishing are in it for the rewards
It would still defeat the purpose
elder mist
the point is that fishing is vastly boring, yet it's the only other way to get hardmode ores and bars without having to mine for them
both methods to get mythril anvil and adamant forge are tedious
calm loom
But money is too easy too get in this mod
calm loom
But I haven’t seen it done to other NPCs yet
elder mist
because the other NPC's dont really sell anything of value, the only things that pop into my mind are the boss summons (which are cheap for the phm and hm bosses, true) and the minishark, which costs 35 gold for a pre boss item
calm loom
But it would be easy to balance
ashen warren
Hey, remember how everyone loved the fishing in Breath of Fire 4 despite the rewards being garbage because it was enjoyable?
calm loom
So it’s vise versa here then?
elder mist
i dont because bof 4 is a game that is rarely talked about 
ashen warren
Yes, people only fish because of easy loot
calm loom
Huh
elder mist
the problem is that it's not even that easy
the time spent on fishing for crates is a lot higher than the time you spend looking for and mining the hard mode ores
not to mention crates can royally fuck you over if you have bad luck
ashen warren
That and Angler deserves to die multiple horrible deaths
ashen warren
Now, if the little bastard handed over crates depending on the difficulty of the fish, he would be awesome
Hell, just make him give you golden crates, you get all the fishing gear from scourge anyway
calm loom
I always make sure his house is on the bottom
So when blood moon comes around
He is mauled gloriously
ashen warren
You gave him a house? I just gave him a room in the dungeon
Wish you summoned wof with angler voodoo doll tbh
Voodoo dolls for everyone
Poor guide doesn't deserve it
That midget asshole does though
calm loom
@ashen warren he keeps respawning
ashen warren
All the better to continue the murder with
calm loom
A grave mistake it was to save him from the sharks
Thought he would be useful
He wasn’t
ashen warren
Like I said, change his drop pool to gold crates
Is there anything you can get from only him in Calamity?
calm loom
Not that I know of
ashen warren
Just straight-up suggested it. Make him less useless
quiet abyss
I'm not, but I have to star it cause I'm CD
ashen warren
While on the subject, how about another crate; extractinator results. Crafted at the extractinator for 50 silt, slush, or fossil, rolls 50 times on the drop table when opened
Something you can rapidly craft and open without holding down the button for 10 minutes
digital saddle
Angler is very very bad design
Fishing in general is a bad mechanic
Slows the game down too much
tired haven
It is time sink. It's not too bad but it's arrogant for quite a lot of players
Me included
ashen warren
Terraria has terrible pacing in general
digital saddle
ore armors are so useless
like copper - gold
gold armor especially
takes so much work to get
for what
mediocre armor
ashen warren
To be invalidated because you found 150 platinum bars worth of ore
simple mortar
I find myself using Tungsten quite often if i haven't decided to naked dynamite my way to victory against EoW or the like
digital saddle
i straight up skip armor till victide
victide, aerospec, statigel, daedalus, reaver, ataxia
is my usual progression
ie all the modded armors
wooden leaf
I only use cactus then straight to evil ore
simple mortar
Tungsten Meteorite/Crimtane Titanium Shroomite Gunner/Illumite (don't judge me i find Calamity not enough) Vortex/Deathwalker Gunner+Rocketeer
tbh once i get Thorium's endgame armor no one set from Calamity quite compares enough for me to sacrifice the bonuses. No fire rate increases, mostly :V
Think i stopped using Calamity armors at God Slayer, using Vanilla or another mod's until then
ashen warren
That's not the only problem, ore itself is imba and makes no sense
This is how much platinum it takes to forge a suit of armor
elder mist
the devs made a perfect rectangle of how much it was needed and they were like "it's too much. we need to make armors with less ore." the thing they came up with was reducing said rectangle by a grand total of 1 ore
ashen warren
For a game that has great multiplayer they sure do a lot of shit to discourage it
simple mortar
Well, multiplayer on small worlds, anyways :V
tired haven
great multiplayer
Haha
Actual gameplay may be fun, but technical realisation...
Btw that broken plates sounds like opposite of what was there before (segments became invisible and took less dmg)
ashen warren
Yeah it did that before and I think it caused issues in MP
worthy fiber
@woven salmon dude delete that
idle obsidian
Wtf is that last one mate pls
worthy fiber
literally said please don't
woven salmon
Sorry
cyan lagoon
Too late.
opal barn
Cobalion why did you star the thing that Mrbaws said 
idle obsidian
Because it was reayl gud
cyan lagoon
but it was a suggestion 
opal barn
I mean the thing about destroyer probes
twin moon
I love this server so much
elder sparrow
@digital sparrow unfortunately switch delay is a thing, i'd imagine if you could just tp by q there would be none and everyone's consistency increases tenfold
calm loom
Ooh divine axe seems cool
elder sparrow
and if you do have a hotkey that literally functions the same way as switching to rid manually what's the point
calm loom
Imagine what spriters could do with the divine axe.
It’ll be like the possessed hatchet, but way better
And explodes on impact? Oh boy
elder sparrow
i also imagine that mages will get three legendaries while throwers have one and summoners zero
delicate raft
ashen warren
Accessory that applies excess damage to the nearest foe until the excess is depleted, doable?
neon panther
fab said all classes will get 3 legendaries, that hopefully means all classes
rugged finch
GG
delicate raft
I'm proud of my 10
dull kite
and mention that it’s only in hardmode.
bitter drift
but you get souls underground
and yes sorry didn't say it
ashen warren
My one for Angler got 19
hollow shell
@polar grove #suggestions-voting is for posting suggestions only
this channel here is for talking about suggestions
also
SCal hit counter has been suggested many many times
polar grove
oh sorry
cyan lagoon
also a scal hit cap ha-
heady comet
Also another hitcounter
cyan lagoon
^^^^
polar grove
i wont
ruby cobalt
..another hitcounter?
idle obsidian
The more we ask the more it gets in the mod 
delicate raft
But if it gets added, won't it get deleted once SCal is no longer a superboss?
idle obsidian
Even if it was the case, having it until then wouldn't be too bad
teal wolf
add hit cap mode, across the whole run you can only be hit 10 times
polar grove
sounds like leviathans kinda thing
heady comet
Nice meme
frosty kindle
counter for hitcap suggestions when
idle obsidian
Bro plis i can't even no hit real life
ruby cobalt
if we hit a certain amount do they just get banned instantly?
heady comet
idle obsidian
heady comet
@junior tendon what
junior tendon
Sirens are a species :v
but uhh
yeah
shouldn't she have a name
or is it like in potc where they don't have name
well later on she was called Syrena but you know what I mean
sinful violet
we can call her Wilbur
heady comet
junior tendon
rugged finch
what about nothing, shes off screen most of the time 
frosty kindle
just call her "i break the boundaries often"
placid stag
I already made a DCU upgrade suggestion before
proven tide
Hec
frosty kindle
also LuiAFK improved drill mount is a thing too, but thats a whole other mod
proven tide
Well fuck me then
ashen warren
Profanity is dropped constantly on this channel.
placid stag
Insert Christian Minecraft server joke
frosty kindle
meta
placid stag
Oof
ashen warren
Yeah the Luiafk DCU is an absolute terror, it can obliterate an entire screen's worth of material in seconds. It makes the crystyl crusher look like a joke
ashen warren
And that literally cannot be any better
Anyone who would support increasing the auto-spawn thresholds for Eye of Cthulhu to a higher value when on revengeance or death mode?
bitter topaz
eye is easy even without an arena
you literally need a hook, double jump and hermes boots along with a half decent weapon
ashen warren
If you get a sandstorm yes he's easy
bitter topaz
smh a blizzard in a bottle is more than enough
and exploring the underground ice isn't exactly that difficult past your first few days
and by the time eye spawns naturally you'll atleast have spectre boots if you know what you're doing
making it even easier
so there's no real reason to push the requirement for it to spawn anturally up
ashen warren
Don't you need rocket boots for that?
bitter topaz
yes, and goblins are pre-boss
you literally break a shadow orb and have 200 hp
and boom 33% for goblins each dawn
placid stag
What if yer unlucky and the goblin tinkerer spawns in a dungeon
ashen warren
He despawns eventually anyway
ashen warren
Also the goblin army and EoC both spawn at 200HP (and 10df for EoC)
ashen warren
Was that changed in calamity? Last I checked it was 1/3
bitter topaz
iirc it's a 20% chance
although if the official wiki disagrees with me i'm most likely wrong
oh yeah it is 1/3
but the eye also needs 3 npcs
making it easily avoidable
ashen warren
True enough, you can kill off guide and get merchant and nurse
bitter topaz
but none of this changes the fact EoC is just walking in one direction
ashen warren
True, it's something you'd have to do on purpose but it works
(Gonna confess, I use cheat sheet to drop several buildings as soon as I start and I wind up with a ton of people within an hour)
placid stag
Oof
ashen warren
After building multiple houses, castles, forts, and grinders, I've pretty much retired from that
placid stag
I just make underground boxes
ashen warren
Has anyone done a "blueprint" mod where you can save a building, and have to just fill a chest or whatever with materials to insta-build it?
Basically the paint function but legit
ashen warren
Oh well. Now, I need to sleep an hour ago
soft grail
sorry, mobile autocorrect
hollow shell
Strange
bitter topaz
@vernal sphinx the lure is made of water
it'd make no sense for the lure to not be blue unless it was changed to be an actual, living thing
although yeah it does look super strange at the moment
luckily penelope and gama are working on a resprite for the duo
so it's safe to say it'll also get a resprite
vernal sphinx
Changing it to be an actual living thing would take nothing more than a slight wiki edit and a color scheme change
bitter topaz
suddenly changing it to be alive would make very little sense
vernal sphinx
It goes along with 'Pearl of Enthrallment'
bitter topaz
where did it come from?
why is it helping the duo?
you'd have to answer those
vernal sphinx
You're enthralling an actual Siren instead of just summoning water
It makes s bit more sense
bitter topaz
you're ignoring the lure is an aspect of the fight itself
and it's probably going to stay as water when the resprite and lore rework is done
vernal sphinx
Ah
bitter topaz
the lure is little more than an enchanted glob of water
the pearl of enthrallment is called that because they couldn't find a better name iirc
also go into the art server if you want to see the levi/siren resproots
stoic kindle
Cool didn’t see that, was just wondering why they weren’t around while playing yesterday
hollow shell
Yeah they're coming
don't you worry
heady comet
Is it possible to have the rage/adrenaline bars save their position after you move them?
frosty kindle
it saves position for me for some reason
well, not "save" as in permanently save, it just remembers where i put them
fervent zealot
that's so completely absurdly vague @ashen warren
bitter topaz
smh elaborate your suggestions
ashen warren
i was editing it to be more descriptive
fervent zealot
why the heck did you post it if it's not finished smh
bitter topaz
you post a fleshed out one or you don't post at all
i'm tempted to get a mod to just delete ngl
heady comet
Ebicc suggestion
fervent zealot
that's like me posting the letter a and then editing an actual post into it later
ancient dragon
Big smh.
fervent zealot
that's uh, still pretty vague my dude
ashen warren
Why?
untold pilot
Why not?
ashen warren
Enemies don't really spawn with more than 5 npcs around
untold pilot
Idk how it is in your game but i'm getting swarmed
ashen warren
Blood moon?
untold pilot
even if it's not in the blood moon
i can't make moats and walls cause the dumb npcs get stuck
ancient dragon
Strays too much from Calamity's usual policy of being a general content mod just with its own lore on top.
It's a more niche concept that would be better off pitched to someone who'd like to code that kind of thing.
untold pilot
it's a QOL addition tbh
ashen warren
A better suggestion would be to boost the damage of npc weapons
ancient dragon
It's not really QoL as much as it is a new mechanic that sounds like it'd be difficult to code.
untold pilot
Really?
ancient dragon
Also, if you're always getting swarmed by mobs, you have too many content mods stacked in one playthrough.
untold pilot
Well not always, i usually have a couple of zombies attacking me each night
but the thing is, i like building up my base at night
like my main base where i'm safe
ancient dragon
Zen potions exist. Those nullify spawns.
untold pilot
I'm a new player so rip
ancient dragon
How does that come into play?
ancient dragon
New update adds planetoids, one of them has the Alchemy Table within it.
Point void.
ashen warren
Right
untold pilot
does that effect last forever?
ancient dragon
10 minutes.
ashen warren
apple
heady comet
Wait
ashen warren
that was just stated
I don't run newest update because of the bugs so yea i didn't know
ancient dragon
Either way, yeah. Zen potions are easy enough to craft (whether through Blood Orbs or the actual mats) and acquirable pre-boss now, so there's no reason to add that.
untold pilot
Do monsters still attack your town if you're away?
fervent zealot
nO
untold pilot
like your npcs
fervent zealot
if you knew how spawn mechanics worked you might have been able to make a better suggestion
ashen warren
no need to be condescending 
heady comet
🐜
untold pilot
How would that make it a "tower defense" game?
novel quail
otherworld, oh wait...
ancient dragon
Giorno stop hurting my feelings.
untold pilot
we don't speak of otherworld anymore
novel quail
You think I'm not sad either?
untold pilot
no i know you're said
novel quail
OOF
untold pilot
we are all said
novel quail
fixed lmao
ashen warren
All enemies despawn when far enough away except for some bosses (lunar pillars, DoG and the like)
fervent zealot
most bosses despawn when far away too
ashen warren
"except for some bosses"
ancient dragon
All worm bosses never despawn, btw.
untold pilot
how far away? like 1/10 of the map far away?
novel quail
most bosses follow you tho, atleast when you're at the tier when they're a challenge
ancient dragon
Basically offscreen.
untold pilot
how have i never noticed that
ashen warren
Twice or thrice the size of your screen or something
ancient dragon
On a 1920x1080 resolution, that is. If you go far away enough from an enemy that it's a bit beyond offscreen, it'll likely despawn.
wanton sun
I abuse that a lot with the luiafk recall
ashen warren
Use these on your moat https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Sensor
ancient dragon
@proven tide This is a meme suggestion.
proven tide
What
ancient dragon
ruby cobalt
Nah, it's a serious suggestion that serves 0 purpose.
worthy fiber
is there even a difference between meme suggestion and joke suggestion
ancient dragon
No?
simple mortar
Well, it could be filler for an item that ends up removed without ever being obtainable, like the Red Potion that likely inspired it is.
ancient dragon
Syntax Error would be a good candidate even if it doesn't quite meet the criteria.
proven tide
The Red Potion is a debug item IIRC
simple mortar
That is one of its purposes, yes
simple mortar
Normal/Expert/Rev/Death, presumably
proven tide
^
neon panther
No I’m saying why have it last for an hour, you die in a second anyways
And I guess my problem with it is overall I don’t understand why we need it
but uh it’s 3:37 AM for me and I should get some sleep. It’s a cool concept but unnecessary and basically just instant suicide in a bottle
ashen warren
An NPC who you can trade some (more than 1) lores with in exchange for boss summoning items, with a spawn condition of "Defeat at least three bosses that drop lore". Cannot be used to break boss order, so you can't get Cosmic Worm from him until you beat the Sentinels and so on. Sound like an idea?
ancient dragon
Vanilla NPCs already do that after you beat the boss for farming purposes.
Besides that, hoarders would get upset for having to trade their precious 1-time items for summoning ones that they can simply craft instead.
Also pointless on the account that Calamity's summoning items aren't hard to farm for. Like, at all.
ashen warren
First is true, second is a personal problem, and it's more "Let's clean up"
ancient dragon
Explain your last statement.
ashen warren
It's quite trivial to skip multiple bosses (especially crabulon and desert scourge) if you're an experienced player, especially if their drops aren't of any use to you
ancient dragon
...So...?
ashen warren
Makes completionism less tedious
ancient dragon
I don't see how the two correlate.
ashen warren
That's a personal problem.
ancient dragon
Elaborate on what you mean by that.
ashen warren
Also the simple fact that even with a recipe browser it's a royal pain in the ass to find the summoning item recipes
ancient dragon
Boss Checklist.
quiet abyss
Trading lore items for boss summoners sound convenient for the lazy people who don’t want to craft the boss summoning items I guess but it sounds...I dunno, a little bit unnecessary? The boss summoners, like Alexis said, aren’t that hard to craft and don’t take that long either.
ashen warren
Doesn't that have problems just now?
ancient dragon
Lore items specifically, which are a one-time drop and, unless traded for an endless version of a summoning item, would be pointless.
quiet abyss
What do you mean? I don’t see people having problems with finding recipes for boss summoners
ancient dragon
Also latest version of Recipe Browser allows for item sorting in the actual recipe tab, allowing you to find summoning items much quicker.
quiet abyss
Closest is “what boss do I fight next?” Which again, like Alexis said, can be easily softed with boss checklist
ashen warren
Alright then, didn't know he finally added that
proven tide
A game — in this case a mod — shouldn't rely on (other, unaffiliated) mods (or outside information sources like wikis) to make necessary mechanics accessible. Yes, after a couple of tries running pure Calamity, you might (after significant time sunk into grinding or pure chance) start to figure out the next boss and then the obscure materials required to summon it, but apart from a couple of vague status messages little is said to indicate which bosses come next and how to summon them.
quiet abyss
...A little late for that, vetus
ancient dragon
Calamity isn't exactly geared towards newer players, by the by. Fab's stated himself that his mindset is making the mod for players who've played vanilla and are seeking for a greater challenge.
low sandal
WoT has awoken
ancient dragon
Keep memes out of the convo, please.
Either way, I fail to see how this would help.
Also, I'll entertain the idea of 'new players won't know what to do' for a bit and ask you; how did you progress through Terraria the first time you played it? How do you progress through a new mod for the first time? How do you experience any sandbox for the first time?
You take it at your own pace, don't rush and experiment with things in order to find out what's new.
If you're rushing because you're new and want to get to the good stuff right away, that's dumb.
If you're rushing because you've played vanilla but not the mod before, that's dumb.
But the choices are still yours to make anyway.
And if you're going to bring up the point of Recipe Browser again, the Guide exists and you can check him for a vanilla way of learning what to do with what materials.
ashen warren
I didn't have to contend with 4000+ items
ashen warren
And the only bosses in vanilla that need a summoning item are Wall of Flesh, Duke Fishron, and Golem, and only one of them requires any actual hunting. The other two's items are in the immediate area where you fight them.
proven tide
@oblique plume Future Boss suggestions are being ignorededed as they're still under development.
The currently implemented versions are, from what I can tell, more an experimental concept than the full plans, which are still being worked on.
ancient dragon
Desert Scourge. Crabulon. Perfs/Hive Mind. Slime God. Cryogen (Eleum). Hell, Aqua Scourge spawns naturally.
All the materials for their items are in their area of relevance.
ruby cobalt
Yes, I too love relying on RNG for getting my boss spawns, absolutely.
ancient dragon
Seafood.
ruby cobalt
That's a remark to "and the only bosses in vanilla that need a summoning item"
ancient dragon
Oh wait, completely misunderstood that. My bad.
ashen warren
Aqua Scourge is a "rare spawn" my ass. I can't go anywhere near the sulphurous sea without it saying "I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU"
ancient dragon
...When did I say that?
ashen warren
You didn't
ancient dragon
So why is this relevant?
ashen warren
On the subject of natural spawns
ancient dragon
You're not arguing for your own point on that one.
ruby cobalt
Nope, it's absolutely irrelevant to the current discussion.
ancient dragon
As a matter of fact, you're jumping between quite a few of them.
proven tide
#calamity-mod-talk holy fuCK
ancient dragon
We're still arguing about the suggestion.
Would it not be weird to be reading a suggestion discussion and not being able to come to a conclusion because half of the debate is in a different channel?
proven tide
You're debating bullshit minutiae and semantics, not the suggestion. Please get on-topic. This hurts to look at.
ashen warren
Also the materials being in the location and the item being in the location are two very different things.
ancient dragon
It's necessary to come to the conclusion, even if I myself think it's getting out of hand at this point with the hopping between points.
...Well, I suppose I'll move either way until I get a proper response to this issue from the mods.
rugged finch
Popped polyps that turn into swarms of baby blood crawlers
proven tide
please no
dull kite
@ashen warren suggested earlier today and has 70 stars
ashen warren
_> oh
ashen warren
Everyone loves those apparently
brazen yarrow
Nah I don't
ashen warren
Slimy boi, that suggestion makes sense
But I’m not sure how the balancing would work
molten notch
Cosmic caffeine
calm loom
Lul
placid stag
Devourer of Sleep
ashen warren
Devourer of Ded
dull kite
what are you two talking about
molten notch
Devourer of devourers
dull kite
all 3 of you
ashen warren
A suggestion that isn’t a suggestion
dull kite
don’t talk in this chat unless it is about a suggestion 
ashen warren
It’s a stick
devout seal
I'm fairly sure that new perferator lore needs to be written, because it isn't a thing inhabiting BoC's corpse
The crimson absorbs dead stuff and reintegrates it back into something.
devout seal
Odd.
Just noticed i don't have spriting platoon here.
dull kite
Both roles were removed, ion
devout seal
Oh
bitter drift
yes it's old
but it is what i know
devout seal
This is the perferator hive as it is right now, from what i know.
While the lore states it's a thing inhabiting BoC's corpse, that doesn't make sense.
Because corpses don't just start moving again.
ashen warren
I thought it was the worms that inhabited the brain
And the hive was made out of the brains remains
ruby cobalt
The key word is inhabiting, BoC's pretty much 100% dead, perfs are just parasites that live in it
devout seal
Yup.
ruby cobalt
The real question is why that lore is still canon when nonlinearity is here.
devout seal
Because no-one's made new lore yet.
ashen warren
Can we suggest new lore?
ruby cobalt
Yes and no at the same time.
ashen warren
<_< du fuc
ruby cobalt
You can suggest it, but who's gonna look at it?
ashen warren
Wiki readers?
ruby cobalt
*wheeze*
dull kite
afaik that doesn’t break rules
ashen warren
Welp, time to get the idea machine running
ruby cobalt
Merely suggesting it won't make it canon and it might never see the light of approval.
But sure, go ahead and do your best.
ashen warren
Okek
dull kite
might wanna put it in a google doc.
devout seal
Or pastebin
ashen warren
The lore is shit that already happened.
The terrarian just showed up and started throat-stomping everything
simple mortar
y'know, the lore is even more accurate if you look at what speedrunners can do
vivid blaze
New Hot Take on Calamity Lore and Gameplay: Enoby Dirknass from fanfiction cult classic My Immortal becomes the new ultra-super-mega boss
gusty geode
dense girder
ashen warren
These aren’t lore item changes smh
There’s such thing as a wiki where the full lore is stored
The problem with corruption planetoids is that Eater of Worlds will have a lot of problems. He'll spawn and fall straight to earth, and when you pursue he'll despawn
ashen warren
Omfg
Must I repeat myself again?
I don’t agree with the Plague piece and the Ravager piece, but the rest is reasonable
@bitter topaz
bitter topaz
why do you disagree with either?
ashen warren
Well, PlagueBringer Goliath and Ravager were built to be post Golem bosses
bitter topaz
the Plague enemies being nerfed until it's obvious you've got gear to deal with them is to make exploring the jungle tolerable early-hm
yes, and so was duke fishron
and so was cultist
ashen warren
Duke Fishron is an outlier
bitter topaz
yet both of those can be fought early
ruby cobalt
Is he now?
ashen warren
And Cultist is meant to fight Moon Lord
bitter topaz
astrum is intended to be post-plant, yet you can fight it as your second boss
little jolt
something being "built" to be post-golem is a dumb reason
tired haven
Plague better be keeped at least till mechs (which kinda fits with your way)
Ravager might be fine but he drops so much shit it's hard to weigh
little jolt
the whole point of the linearity changes is to take away all of that
bitter topaz
the non-linearity changes throw "intended progression" out the window on purpose
ashen warren
Ravager and PlagueBringer Goliath have really op shit tho