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#suggestions-discussion
ashen warren
vital grotto
no arrows home in on enemies
dull kite
1: @tight chasm I hate you
2: I don't think sponge needs upgraded
vital grotto
and that's probably for the best
tight chasm
tbh tho astral arcanum is just something nobody would ever use in a fight
tight chasm
^
vital grotto
the arrows themselves dont home
well
vanquisher arrows kinda covers the reason why it's for the best anyway
but those are post DoG
ashen warren
I don't know what to do with my dryad's PMS to make it better.
I don't wish to repost it until I come up with a better 2nd effect.
vital grotto
but there arent even any bows post-DoG that fire regular arrows
ashen warren
cursed and plague...
but what else and I'm thinking green-purplish.
dryad's bane is out
vital grotto
dont you "boi" me
I've made a bunch of suggestions to weapons that are already in a recepie, and so has Calamity
im going with post-DoG
rugged finch
Does my suggestion need tinkering?
vital grotto
debuffs inflicted by arrows increased?
ashen warren
venom?
vital grotto
that's an oddly specific and hard-to do debuff
ashen warren
silva crystal in a tome?
that would be too op.
but considering the tome already does plague...
It has to be post moon
rugged finch
I thought it needed a unique twist
I have no clue how hard it would be to code, but its a suggestion anyways
ashen warren
what do I replace for dryad bane?
violet talon
arrow drop off lessened would be increased velocity, right?
rugged finch
Cursed inferno doesnt make too much sense
ashen warren
In a tome themed after a corrupted and very pissy Dryad
ashen warren
I'm referencing her blood moon mood and DD2 version.
The old idea was cursed inferno, bane, and plague
ashen warren
but dryad's bane is too weak.
so looking for a beneficial debuff that helps player.
sorta like my Midas one.
rugged finch
Like ichor?
rugged finch
I wasnt suggesting it
ashen warren
but night whither seems appropriate too.
ashen warren
yeah but its not buffed by Calamity boss kills
rugged finch
True
ashen warren
so it will be weak in higher parts of the game.
If it was buffed by all but ML and super bosses, It would be -20+ a second life drain.
rugged finch
Well it is a debuff nothingless
ashen warren
I could keep it or go with nightwither or another related debuff to the moon.
I just feel it has to be on par with "King Midas Fury".
as Midas is the crimson verison.
rugged finch
Know what you mean
Well cursed flame now lowers enemy damage reduction in calamity
Just not as good as ichor
ashen warren
Nightwither outclasses holy flames...
so not a good choice...
something to make the tradeoff worth it...
but not too much.
Midas is free money and ichor and holy burning
Hmm irradiated on enemies works?
rugged finch
Think so
Lemme check
Wiki doesnt say
But I could have sworn enemies take damage in that rain
violet talon
b r a g g i n g
pseudo gust
more of like guys
so close to not dying from ocd whenever worldgen decides to give you shrines
violet talon
tru dat
violet talon
oh it's fine
rugged finch
Just starred yours, I didn't even realise that was the case lol
pseudo gust
would there be a reverse of the slateskin?
pseudo gust
like increases move speed pretty well but while under effect you can't tank hits
ashen warren
but if i do whispering death...
I need to add a material in that relates to it.
as it can't be in the tome for free.
5 bars of life maybe?
pseudo gust
what other items inflict whispering death
rugged finch
Bones...?
ashen warren
mind you that's a vanilla item
pseudo gust
i thought you meant for whispering death
ashen warren
beer for a tome that's plague tier?
violet talon
quicksilver potion maybe?
pseudo gust
sounds good
ashen warren
Ok I think its ready to repost.
what tier is bar of life, pre moon or post moon lord?
rugged finch
Post golem iirc
ashen warren
plague cell as well?
rugged finch
yeah
ashen warren
Ok so it checks out.
rugged finch
plague is spread after golem's death
rugged finch
Uh
violet talon
why defender medals?
rugged finch
30 is going to be hard post-golem
violet talon
just so it encourages ooa?
ashen warren
Yes
ashen warren
also its themed towards her (Dryad's) dark side
corrupted and blood moon mood.
well if a player banked them early...
I guess 30 is ok.
I have about 100 but my melee girl has been around for a while.
ashen warren
I farmed it for collecting the OOA stuff to make a museum.
every item with best prefixes.
So I don't know how others will play
I want to have every tool, weapon, etc, on racks and womannequins.
anyways maybe lower it to 10.
or 15.
ashen warren
I usually get 3-5 Defender medals in tier 1.
I did 5 plague cell and 5 bars of life.
100 vile powder
ashen warren
ok 50 vile is made form those mushrooms.
rugged finch
Also can be bought on blood moons
rugged finch
Just realised
If its a tome wont it make sense to make i with a spell tome too
At a bookcase
Like how the golden shower and cursed flames are made
ashen warren
yeah fixed teh midas one too
rugged finch
Good suggestions
neon panther
will suggestions ive already suggested that have 35 or more stars have been sent to dev channel by now?
gusty geode
If they will, I reposted for nothing
neon panther
thats why im asking :3
@dull kite I know at one point you were collecting suggestions that reached 35 stars, is the list you made up to date?
for now im just gonna assume yes and not repost any 35 or up suggestions
gusty geode
Is LITerally (
)every flame debuff in the game necessary
neon panther
yes
upbeat tusk
my only issue with it is that there arent more
neon panther
hollow shell
What about it?
hollow shell
Alright then
I hope for the best of this
ashen warren
i finally fuckin finished writing my suggestion
round falcon
tbf my idea is bad
ashen warren
i know the pins clearly say "we're not accepting boss submissions" or whatever, but i still want to share my idea cause fun
shit
its too long
sinful violet
If it's for fun, do it here
Or remove the boss concept and just show the weapons drops and purpose or whatever
neon panther
probably put it in a doc?
hollow shell
@ashen warren Is that a boss suggestion?
ashen warren
neon panther
Is that a white theme?
cyan lagoon
smh the rules didn't say no boss suggestions
hollow shell
what
cyan lagoon
they only said that they won't be accepted
hollow shell
Sure it can stay there I guess
It just aint gettin starred
sinful violet
smh old one was better
bitter topaz
iirc people have been warned for boss suggestions before
ashen warren
at least i actually put effort into coming up with the details of the fight and described the weapon drops and shit in detail, not just "LOL MAKE SUPREME CRAB"
sinful violet
but yair, like, two people are gonna read it
ashen warren
thats the sad part 
ashen warren
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458842372751622154/481984617751248896/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458842372751622154/481989192608382976/unknown.png
shitty artwork for the boss btw
vital grotto
how long should it take before a Soul Gem is broken with a pickaxe
im thinking 8 but some people will obviously not like that
point is to not let players just get the soul gem and skedaddle out of the abyss, but make them deal with enemies before they can finally break it off and get a good weapon
crude quartz
aaaaaaaaa put it in a dooooooooc
neon panther
because that’s a big wall of text
hollow shell
Slow down there sonny jim @vital grotto
vital grotto
sorry, sorry
hollow shell
You definitely should use a doc for this
neon panther
ye
bitter topaz
jesus fuck that's a wall of text
white laurel
hollow shell
what's Soul Stone?
hollow shell
lol it still doesn't say what Soul Stone is
hollow shell
neon panther
also, the messages that pop up usually don’t explain it all
I’d just use the first part
hollow shell
change "Stone" to "Gem", not the other way around
cuz
s'more accurate, less confusing
hollow shell
Sorry I just saw your Google Docs reticle go right to "Gem" when you said that
thought you was
gon change it
I'll go
neon panther
if you couldn’t understand what I said, i meant change the Polterghast defeat message to just “The bind of haunted souls has been broken” or something btw
neon panther
I said right up there
vital grotto
either way, telling them that alone might still leave them confused and unsure of what the message means
neon panther
that’s usually what the Terraria messages do
vital grotto
calamity already has something like that when you beat Astrum Deus
neon panther
Eh true, but I don’t like that either tbh. It just feels like a 4th wall break in a way
vital grotto
@humble bloom since i cant commment on the doc, i guess i'll tell you here: the Cacner Crusher could be a cool idea, but it's impractical because you're pulling enemies towards you. if they had a right-click attack that did double damage to enemies pulled towards you via some debuff or something, it might work better.
crude quartz
he's not even in this server anymore 
vital grotto
really?
welp
it's late again so barely anyone is going to see the suggest
imma delete it and repost tomorrow hehehehehe
dull kite
no do not do that
neon panther
me or Zplo
dull kite
Zplo
vital grotto
is that an order?
dull kite
yeah, sure
neon panther
recommendation tbh
neon panther
any critique on my Squid Charm though
neon panther
@vital grotto I know you like to put preliminary stats just to give a rough idea, but tbh the wall of texts can get kind of annoying, so can you at least not format it like that? Like, keep it on one line or something. (You don’t have to do this, I’m just letting you know it’s sometimes annoying to me)
ancient dragon
It's best to have it like that than have extra formatting work or a clog of text.
vital grotto
imo it's more organized, just skip past the parts you dont want to read, they're way easier to see the way they are
but i just want to know whether the bubbles are OP or not
oh i know
low sandal
You could've also made a doc tho 
neon panther
Even going 100 Melee Damage, Insanely Fast Speed, Average Knockback, 4% Crit Chance is good IMO
idk just peeves me for some reason
neon panther
also you don’t need a doc for that tbh, docs are for really long suggestions or compiles of like 5 suggestions
low sandal
Hm
vital grotto
bubbles do same damage as weapon
low sandal
Im thinking that it may have an absurd amount of dmg when it comes to dps
But really thats tldr all melee weapons
So youre good
All true melee*
neon panther
as for the suggestion itself though, it’s p’ good, although I can’t star it because it’s a rival against my elemental claws suggestion 
I lied and starred it
low sandal
tsk tsk tsk
gusty geode
This mod desperately needs a Blood Moon expansion
gaunt quiver
Yes that's why I suggested that
Bloodmoon is too boring
It needs a bit more spice
gusty geode
I had a few new enemy concepts thought up a while back, complete with drops
I could post it here
gaunt quiver
Yes post it 
dull kite
aight send
gusty geode
This is old and probably bad, only reposted to show ember
gaunt quiver
It's not bad tbh
The cultist idea is good, but they are all cultists, so more enemy types would be recommended
If it was to be added
You put a lot of thought into that, pretty detailed too so I think it's good
gusty geode
Thx
round prairie
i can obv tell half or under of the mods theme is a lot of demonic stuff, but im suprised theres nothing that has to do with teh seven deadly sins (Greed, lust, gluttony, wrath, sloth, pride, envy)
have like a upgrade to the greedy wring that like gives you HP or a buff when you pick up coins (still have greedy wring affects of corce)
have a wrath accessory that like deals damage to your self when ever you attack based on your attack speed or damage cant tell wich would be more balanced but gives you like insane ass damage increases like 50%
have sloth give you a decreased movement speed but standing still gives a good damage increase and maybe life regen
and maybe have all seven combine to a super accesory that kinda combines all their buffs and either removes or reduces their negative affects
round prairie
its kinda obv calamity has a demonic or dark theme
based around some of the bosses
brimstone, calamitas and supreme boi
etc
gaunt quiver
Will it be a drop or craft
round prairie
id say both depending
greed should be based off the idea i put
maybe have it be like a ton of platium coins, greedy wring and something like that
maybe have the brimstone or fake calamitas have a small chance to drop the sin of wrath
gaunt quiver
Since calamity has a lot of good accessories, I don't see a lot of people using these on its own, since it has negative effects on it.. they might use the final combined accessory though
round prairie
tru, but the debuffs would be kinda minor
like the wrath would be like 1 damage per 2 seconds of constantly attacking
or like 1 damage per use on semi automatic weapons
sloth would be like 5-10 percent
the benfits would greatly outweight the negatives
and the finale combination would be moonlord+ and would have greatly reduced or removed negatives to its meterials to make
also im looking at bosses, what are theses almost roid raged versions of previos bosses like "acient doomslayer" "the devourer of universes" and "Dragon god yharon?" was this like added today?
round prairie
not for dragon god, hes goes 3rd form at 93% im terrifed
gaunt quiver
Are they gonna get like resprites
bitter topaz
probably
gaunt quiver
cool
round prairie
devourer of univeres already has a serprate sprite i think
thicker and more things sticking out
gaunt quiver
Did it get posted somewhere
round prairie
wiki
bitter topaz
people like rover were surprised these 3 were added so soon, despite the use they're intended for not coming for a long time
gaunt quiver
already?
round prairie
link on them
bitter topaz
nah milk DoG / DoU is the same sprite
round prairie
just the name, small description on hp and sprite
gaunt quiver
yeah 
round prairie
can i post picures here?
gaunt quiver
i think you can
bitter topaz
if it's relevent, yes
round prairie
bitter topaz
although we should move to #calamity-mod-talk
round prairie
gaunt quiver
oh wow
round prairie
oof
havnt played in a long ass time
so havnt seen a while then
mb
i vote we buff bumble birb to have more hp
and his damage
just buff the bumble bibr
such a smol cute looking boss needs to be the scourge of terraria
dull kite
ye if you aren't gonna talk about suggestions pls move
low sandal
So lets hop on over to #calamity-mod-talk
gaunt quiver
you dont talk in suggestions
proven tide
dull kite
vetus 
proven tide
yes, darling dearest?
quiet abyss
I was about to comment about "Maybe you should separate your suggestions" thinking it was a 2 suggestions in one post again.
Good thing I doubletake quickly
sudden quail
Well, it kind of is, hehe
dull kite
my stars always get sniped 
proven tide
and it's also a repost
there's this one guy who's reposted the same things three days now
quiet abyss
Danny has said that reposts are allowed if the suggestions are atleast a week old
dull kite
Yeah, It's been 11 days so hes fine
proven tide
oshit
sudden quail
I still need to think of more mobs to suggest
proven tide
a week only? damn
quiet abyss
Oh, speaking of suggestions
dull kite
His suggestion already had 70 stars so it's whatever at this point
proven tide
exactly
quiet abyss
https://gyazo.com/8498240dd43452d2bb326330dd484ec2
https://gyazo.com/a54434207508f42e51e0cfb598a70ffa
sudden quail
Whose?
quiet abyss
proven tide
🤔
quiet abyss
Who are the one putting the ✅ again?
dull kite
People in the dev server
quiet abyss
Ah
gaunt quiver
I dont see ✅ for the suggestions above 35 stars
proven tide
^
dull kite
The ✅ gets added once they have been forwarded.
sudden quail
It was inspired by a trick someone used to create Providence's beam to act as a sort of beacon for a shrine he built, in the art Discord
quiet abyss
It's a neat idea
...Actually thinking about it, I don't think I've ever seen a suggestion about blocks that have special effects, or atleast aren't as special as this
Atleast not that I remember.
sudden quail
Can I post the image reference here?
Asking cause I don't wanna piss Cobalion off - he's the one who built it 
quiet abyss
Sure
proven tide
IT'S HOT
versed grotto
devout seal
I don't really know how beacons would be useful tho
wanton sun
yharims stimulants already does the stat boosts
fleet fox
Mhmm, more stats, sounds interesting
hollow shell
@scenic galleon Bad
devout seal
No submitting recolors.
hollow shell
The current future boss sprites are the same as their bases, they just have an Add filter on them with the grey background
making them look ghostly and transparent
hollow shell
Also it's not a good solution to replace one temporary sprite with another of pretty much identical quality
Cuz you're not
doing anything
devout seal
We just have to have an actual design for the DoU.
hollow shell
It should be an upgrade
devout seal
Same with ancient doomsayer and DGY.
hollow shell
Whyyyyy the recolor, though?
scenic galleon
Not entirely a recolor
ashen warren
If it goes from eating Gods to universes I say make it like the final boss in Ecco the Dolphin
hollow shell
But why
wanton sun
A recolor is 👎
A resprite is :+1:
scenic galleon
Not 100% a recolor, the spikes are pointier
hollow shell
boi
wanton sun
That sentence implies that it is mostly a recolor
scenic galleon
Yes I know
ashen warren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtLWzYSnYx8 A worm with a head of this size would bring any computer to a crawl now that I think about it
hollow shell
what the hell
I thought Ecco the Dolphin was fun peaceful kids game
why is final boss a giant xenomorph phantoon cthulhu
ashen warren
Did you not play the first level? Everything in Ecco's bay gets sucked up by a whirlwind from hell when he leaps out of the water
hollow shell
I thought it was like
strange fantasy mystery
Like Putt Putt Saves The Zoo, where Ecco's gotta go to all sorts of places to find and help/free the dolphins
not
disgusting aliens
ashen warren
Travel to Atlantis and go back in time after attaining superpowers of waterbreathing, super sonar, and rapid health regen to slay the progenitor of an alien race?
(Even with all that the last level is bastard hard)
devout seal
That
and one of the levels, you turn into a school of fish
and have to avoid being eaten.
ashen warren
That was 2
calm loom
I remember Ecco the dolphin
I played that games demo on the Xbox 360 like hell when I was younger
Because my parents never got me the actual game
ashen warren
younger, >360, >younger
calm loom
Whatever
ashen warren
I need a walking stick
calm loom
But anyways
Now I know why they never got it
There was a god damn xenomorph
Meh
More or less
ashen warren
If Giger was still alive, I would without hesitation have him be the illustrator for a comic adaption of Ecco
calm loom
I want that elephant in the game
We need more post moonlord enimies in the overworld for sure
Shit my spelling
quiet abyss
@dull kite Low effort suggestion (Before I went to bed)
dull kite
@raven meadow don’t make low effort suggestions
actually elaborate on that- what should be buffed?
raven meadow
Health
dull kite
also thanks, pinkie.
raven meadow
And damage
raven meadow
Signus was still harder
raven meadow
You get really powerful stuff after Dog so it would make sense to buff it
Like I said health and damage
hollow shell
Also you can fight Bumblebirb right after Moon Lord
cyan lagoon
Damage is high enough...?
Especially since birb got a small buff already
Where he can shoot feathers
raven meadow
Well, I still think after a boss like DoG there shouldn't be such an easy boss but if it's like a sentinel it makes a bit more sense
hollow shell
It is indeed
ashen warren
Bosses are deliberately nonlinear
azure vessel
how do I beat moonlord in deathmode jesus
cyan lagoon
azure vessel
oh sorry didnt see it
cyan lagoon
its cool
hollow shell
@tired haven Uh I think you're getting Rage and Adrenaline confused
tired haven
Why tho
tired haven
Well yeah, rather confusing mechanic tbh
hollow shell
It could be better worded as "You no longer lose the Rage buff on hit"
instead of "reset"
cuz the Adrenaline bar resets
bitter topaz
"deathmode duke is too easy"
what in the everliving fuck are you
the only thing worse than deathmode duke is deathmode ml, and duke really does not need a buff
tired haven
I can't believe that "duke is hard as balls" shit got from vanilla to this place
I'm sad
Though buff is unneeded as well
bitter topaz
smh duke is hard in deathmode solely because of the phase 3 cthulhunados
it spikes the rest of that fight to "stupid, cheaply difficult" rather than duke be a fun challenge
although without the cthulhunados i'd assume he's a complete pushover
barren rain
My opinion, no need to freak over it 😛
hollow shell
@ashen warren I think that actually used to be a feature
ashen warren
Really? Well they should bring it back
delicate raft
Wait what
little jolt
Yeah I remember reading about it on the wiki
opal barn
But why, it would only make rain even more annoying
Why would you need to kill SG when you're already in HM
gusty geode
I see I'm not the only one who thinks bosses should be treated as normal enemies late-game
ancient dragon
It's an RPG concept that's as old as time, but it's still a rather interesting and fun one.
ashen warren
@gusty geode A natural boss spawn method could be "Kill X amount of enemies without leaving the biome", this is how Overhaul does it
bitter topaz
fab would rather have natural spawns than that as a mechanic, mainly because mirsaro or whatever the overhaul dev is called would probably bitch about it being "a stolen concept" from overhaul
ashen warren
Being a bitch is his problem though
crude quartz
point being, Fab and Mirsario have bad blood so using overhaul as an example is gonna be a solid nope here
bitter topaz
mirsario hates everybody iirc, he can't accept that people could be better at modding than he is
but yeah fab's and mirsario's relations are especially bad
idle obsidian
I got banned from overhaul server for posting an unknown bug lol
They told me i was insulting their work 
idle obsidian
We were talking bout overhaul that's it
neon panther
20 minutes ago
idle obsidian
Back on topic:
Last suggestion is fine but i think 3 cinders are a bit too much. Maybe 5 essence/cores and 5 sunplate for 5 cinderplate would be better
(It was 20 mins ago but i didn't notice lol. What i said happened a couple months ago)
bitter topaz
emote suggestions don't count as meme suggestions unless it's obvious it's a meme emote
night cradle
Oh, okay then.
ruby cobalt
cinders are worth pretty much nothing
night cradle
bitter topaz
asking for :hellyes: back is all fine and dandy
night cradle
okie
ruby cobalt
since you can zerg in the rain/space and get a shitton of them
bitter topaz
where'as if you were asking for :LORDE: because he's a "funny meme xdddddddd" you'd just get banned from #suggestions-voting along with a free warn
jesus i think i lost brain cells typing that
night cradle
Lorde wasn't a funny meme anyways lol
bitter topaz
~~that's the point ~~
night cradle
idle obsidian
@ruby cobalt i confused cinder for chaos somehow, you are right about that
dull kite
@ashen warren don’t talk in there
dull kite
don’t talk in #suggestions-voting though.
night cradle
Y tho
bitter topaz
^
idle obsidian
Obligatory
idle obsidian
tired haven
Also mfw weekly repost of scal hitcounter was justified
idle obsidian
Did they ask for a visible scal hitcount already or am i safe to go?
crude quartz
don't bother
they're planning on making SCal a required boss eventually so they'll just get rid of the hitcap when that rolls round
idle obsidian
Oh i see
bitter topaz
it'll most likely stay actually
crude quartz
really?
bitter topaz
you take away the hitcounter and she isn't all too difficult
easier than yharon without it imo
idle obsidian
So am i safe to ask, worse case i get ignored?
lunar dirge
^
crude quartz
I heard quite often that they'll buff her and then chuck the hitcap out the window
lunar dirge
SCal would be really easy without a hitcounter
bitter topaz
not really much you could do without making her unfun
you really don't want another moonlord situation
ashen warren
make the fight longer? and what do you mean by moonlord situation
bitter topaz
moonlord's buffs make him really unfun to fight imo
the true eyes are generally just aids due to the lasers, and having a ton of them isn't fun, even if circling is him twice makes the a non-threat
ancient dragon
I'd imagine it's just the raw damage numbers or something along those lines as opposed to new patterns.
bitter topaz
problem with moonlord is that's the only conceivable way to buff him
ashen warren
because vanilla code lol
bitter topaz
SCal's in a similar place imo
you could either do raw damage numbers, which would make her tedious
ancient dragon
Considering who the current testers are, I'd imagine they can pull a good rebalancing off.
bitter topaz
or add more stuff, but that'd make her fight a clusterfuck like ml
ashen warren
Making the fight longer would probably be a good place to start when hitcap is removed
maybe reduce player hp regen when she is alive?
idle obsidian
Tbh a cool thing could be setting hp regen to zero but lowering damage accordingly
bitter topaz
that's what you call a "hitcap"
crude quartz
they pushed the cap back once already
devout seal
A hitcap counter should be possible.
bitter topaz
a counter has also been suggested around 5 million times beforehand
crude quartz
there's no issue
idle obsidian
I explained poorly the pushback part
I meant that with hp potions you can still nullify some hits that's what i meant
idle obsidian
But ye i can see it not being liked
idle obsidian
I have this bad habit yes
bitter topaz
and your suggestion does exactly that
devout seal
exactly.
If it were able to be pushed back, it couldn't be a hit counter.
bitter topaz
but also turns the hitcap into a shitty gimmick
devout seal
Or, you can just have the cap start at the amount of hits the difficulty allows
and then have each time you get hit, it shows up above the player, like the breath meter, and then counts down, before going away
ruby cobalt
having hitcap as a "breath meter" type of thing is a horrible fucking idea
and I hope you understand that
devout seal
So it should just appear when the fight starts, and then you can move it around.
ruby cobalt
wouldn't it just be easier to add it to HP bar?
vague olive
What about making it work like the tally counter
idle obsidian
I would see it just fine under the map, hp or buffs
ruby cobalt
that also works too
idle obsidian
Prolly hp or buffs since you are already used to peek
ruby cobalt
but please, no more additional clusterfuck
lunar dirge
Where the chat gets up
Well it's just where the conv is
Like when you die and such
Status messages
ancient crow
Spirit of purity does it that way
heady comet
Another hitcounter suggestion hahaues
lunar dirge
Now thinking,why do we actually need it?
lunar dirge
Getting hit 10 times doesn't make you suddenly better in dodging if you have a hitcounter
@ruby cobalt if i have a suggestion for the boss guide, do i need to dm it to you?
ruby cobalt
either me or LompL
lunar dirge
ok
low sandal
the hit counter is necessary, it makes the fight unique and worthy of the name 'superboss'
ruby cobalt
preferrably not me rn since I'm going off to sleep
low sandal
Furthermore, it does infact make you focus more on not getting hit
mystic wren
parry
lunar dirge
Well, i'm not saying that i don't want it but you don't rlly need it
mystic wren
it would be cool to have more pretty blocks to make the world nice
vernal sphinx
restive karma
It comes from the eldritch artifact in the new calamity update
restive karma
That got starred fast
neon panther
its reducing damage, not increasing
tight chasm
to balance out double health instead of garbage crit thing which completely defeats the purpose of said health
tired haven
gonna go full rarted Material accs are almost all useless btw 
Absorber and grand gelatin parts
tight chasm
touche
neon panther
Also renders my squid charm replaced 
well
they kinda both work for different facetanking parts I guess, and if they both got in would be a great facetank combo
frosty kindle
combined with pre-nerf aquatic emblem :monkaS:
bitter topaz
@hybrid ocean scroll up in here a bit
frosty kindle
@hybrid ocean
dull kite
did you just snipe my delete
frosty kindle
achievment GET!: Marksman
hybrid ocean
oh, didn't check this channel's pins 
cyan lagoon
sounds like a boss suggestion unfortunately
but ice will likely be expanded in the future
since that biome is indeed lacking
sturdy dock
ye we aren't open to more bosses atm, but it could use a miniboss and a lot more attention in the future
hollow shell
@round prairie ^
hollow shell
Ehh we got GSS he counts
cyan lagoon
providence technically
hollow shell
Provvy hardly counts
tired haven
Half a boss*
delicate raft
Cosmic Plushie is a dev item
bitter topaz
@odd terrace reason this isn't done is because discord has a 50 pin limit
otherwise it'd be trivial to program
alpine garnet
couldn't you use a pastebin or smth though?
digital saddle
i love superball bullets so much
insanely fun to use
a hm version would be cool
primal halo
so what do you guys think?
gaunt quiver
When will bloodmoon get an expansion haha
dull kite
@eager ivy make it 1 message pls
gaunt quiver
That's a lot of sides for a dice
neon panther
Will the number show up on the sprite or will it pop up kinda like damage numbers
also 20 sides isnt much
violet talon
every heard of a20 sided die?
neon panther
ever played dnd
gaunt quiver
I mean how will you show the number
gaunt quiver
And how will it roll
steep island
Ooo, originally it was just gonna be random and no number shown but I like that @neon panther (damage-type text)
neon panther
Ember probs the same way grenades and dynamite and stuff roll
gaunt quiver
Ah k
steep island
^^^
neon panther
tbh I love it
the ultimate RNG weapon
(Also probably edit the suggestion to say how the number pops up)
unique vector
@steep island imo the die wouldnt be useful during bossfights bc of how unreliable it is to use and get the effect you want
maybe in events
but in boss fights its too risky to rely on so much rng
neon panther
probably a billion reasons this suggestion is bad so I’m ready to get roasted
unique vector
ur too weak pre WoF to do anything
neon panther
enemies become hard as fuck to deal with, but post-ml weapons are theoretically available
unique vector
which literally makes everything useless till u get a flame pick
steep island
@unique vector Why would someone be using a calamitas weapon against Yharon?
unique vector
from how much i already die with statigel armor pre cryogen that would be really annoying
steep island
@neon panther That's totally possible
unique vector
@steep island just in theory lol
steep island
Then just don't use the item
unique vector
eh
steep island
If you're gonna die a lot with it
unique vector
pun
unique vector
yes ik
ig it would be a challenge
atm i dont see any harm that could be done
just makes WoF less of a hurdle requirement
violet talon
magic mushrooms?
neon panther
did you mean glowing mushrooms?
violet talon
@smoky raptor
violet talon
@smoky raptor what do you mean by magic mushrooms? if you mean a new item then say what it is and what it's for
neon panther
I think he meant glowing mushroom
violet talon
might want to edit suggestion then
reef escarp
good because you can not eat glowing mushroom
neon panther
15 normal mode, 30 expert mode
dull kite
oh I didn’t notice
elder thorn
Blood Moon
violet talon
im on mobile
unique vector
oh nvm lol
elder thorn
I think he meant
unique vector
i should prob not suggest crap till i get at least to ml
violet talon
00f
elder thorn
I'd support that to be honest.
unique vector
i dont have much knowledge about hm calamity
elder thorn
Mid-late game, there's an armor called Bloodflare armor that needs blood orbs
unique vector
i want to make the spider biome and marble biome more useful lol
elder thorn
though you don't need that many
violet talon
if you wanna be useful
elder thorn
it's useful
dull kite
is it ok with you if I delete the message pixl
unique vector
yeah its fine
violet talon
suggest auric slime something good
dull kite
keep this to conversation about suggestions please
You can post sprites in #suggestions-voting for your stuff, just put it in the same message
elder thorn
Has anyone suggested a better mechworm AI? My friend went through hell as a summoner because of mechworm's AI.
dull kite
mechworms been broken for so long I doubt it’ll be fixed
elder thorn
It's actually a bug with the AI? Dang.
dull kite
I’d assume with how it’s coded, and apparently wormlike summons are a pain in the ass to code
but I don’t know that much about coding so..
neon panther
iirc it copied stardust dragon code and it just didn’t work for some reason
tight chasm
Boooy i have a way out-there suggestion I'm debating posting or not
elder thorn
Should at least try, and see what people think about it.
neon panther
actually i think the world got extended down for planetoids and generation just got moved downwards but I could be wrong
ashen warren
@elder thorn i would like to see them getting fixed
neon panther
but ye I like that
lucid marsh
It’s already been done, you just need to copy the basics of corruption chasm world gen and put it under hell.
Then they could add some sort of huge expansion to it, which would be great
devout seal
Sounds a bit difficult to pull off though.
tired haven
Also not sure with what they will be filled up
Like, crag is already quite empty, and then you make it 20 times bigger?
vital grotto
the point is for it to be much emptier, delivering that "desecrated, dead civilization" feel, like the lore states
also, it makes getting from island to island more of a challenge
gaunt quiver
Perhaps calamity should collab with large world enabler
vital grotto
I'm no expert but i think something like that might cause conflict between people who dont want humoungus worlds
also
lag
gaunt quiver
The world doesn't have to be humongous, just add space to the hight, not width just like what they did for the planetoids
vital grotto
@smoky raptor at least delete your last suggestion
supple moon
who, me?
wanton sun
aaand that's worse
supple moon
cheaters shouldnt win.
wanton sun
Most calamity bosses are immune to butcher...
And adding damage immunity literally makes them even more cheese
That means they don't even need butcher to kill things
And if they really wanted the items you could just give themselves it
supple moon
ANY NPC'S (including bosses)
signal ibex
Nvm.
wanton sun
It isn't calamity's job to make sure cheaters are deleted
signal ibex
^
ashen warren
True.
Besides, DoG and Scal I'm pretty sure are immune to the stuff.
Yknow, butchering..
quasi fable
He is
low sandal
i think
quasi fable
Dog is
wanton sun
The bottom line is that cheat sheet is a separate mod. The devs of calamity should not be concerned with people using other mods and how that will impact them as much as trying to patch out bugs in their current version
Besides, lots of people use cheat sheet to mess around with items or for some to equip fresh characters so they can go against bosses with a certain setup
ashen warren
^
tired haven
Just let them cheat if they want to spoil fun lol
ashen warren
I mean, Leviathan can't just craft his arsenal, it'd take long to do it
He could, and probably is
tired haven
(I personally always use cheatsheet to save hours on preparations)
ashen warren
seeing how he eats Profaned Guardians as cereal for breakfast
Same here
I just kinda wish there was likr
Uhh... How do I say this
wanton sun
*literally none of that suggested debuff will have an effect if the player gives themself op items before a bossfight, nuliffying any need for butcher
ashen warren
The pixel printer mod from Starbound which allowed you to print mainly any item out
Taken into Terraria to buy materials
But really, Calamity gets you like 40 Platnium pre-hardmode
vague olive
it a sandbox game, oeople can do whatever they want
General talk tbh
bloodborne and darksould arent talked about enough for their own channels imo
low sandal
it was merely an example of a successful franchise
I mean it could be anything such as league or overwatch
or even wow if needs be
vague olive
Ah ok
ashen warren
I personally use cheat sheet pretty often to build structures, and skip dumb events like Frost legion, not everyone who has it uses it to cheat
That and all the anti butcher checks for is excess damage, it only nulls damage above a certain amount. Meaning you can simply use OP as hell weapons under god mode.
It is annoying but excessive anti-cheat can be exploited by griefing. What you gonna do if someone drops a few unbutcherable bosses?
sleek wadi
Excessive anti-cheat is literally what made Calamity's Dark Age a dark age. I'm playing a sandbox, a MODDED sandbox so I except to be able do to what I damn well please. Don't apply your restrictions over me, I ain't looking for additional "challenge"!
fleet fox
So, just because they made some bosses unbutcherable, you complain?
sleek wadi
SO yeah the cheatsheet fuckery is a no from me dawg.
Only 5 bosses are unbutcherable currently, one because of a joke and the others because they're completely optional superbosses.
fleet fox
They aren't optional, they are just progression bosses, except SCal
sleek wadi
To my knowledge only DoG is required for progression. Nothing requires you to tackle the future bosses unless you're going for untouchable or something like that.
sleek wadi
But I was more referring to things like using Nurse during boss fights kills both you and Nurse or meteorite being locked behind the vanilla world evil boss when I said excessive anti-cheat. Or in those cases, anti-cheese.
ashen warren
Not true, gimmie a sec
Providence, DoG, and Buffed Mothron are mandatory to defeat Yharon last I checked
And Yahron isn't immune to butcher but it only does 1 damage, meaning even a butcher per frame won't do shit
The good old days where you could grapple to hellstone with a heart statue keeping you alive while you exploit invincibility frames
quiet abyss
....Uh what?
"planterra blubs are literally useless"?
bitter drift
yes
quiet abyss
-> They're used for spawning Plantera
bitter drift
but you got a better way
quiet abyss
This is post-plantera
The only other way of spawning plantera is with this item
And it's post plantera
bitter drift
how many planterra bulbs are spawning in or next to your arena
and this why this enemy is post planterra
ashen warren
A lot, Calamity greatly boosts the spawn rate
quiet abyss
^
bitter drift
well i dig an 100 by 100 tile arena and can't find one next to it
quiet abyss
-> 100 by 100
...You do realized that is like, very small right?
bitter drift
but still isn't there a way to fight planterra as the first boss in hard mode
quiet abyss
Uh, yes? The non-linearity update like 5 updates ago?
That makes plantera bulbs spawn premech?
ashen warren
Luiafk has a plantera bulb finder, with that you can see if it's actually spawning
quiet abyss
Normally you don't build arena and wait for one of the plantera bulb to spawn next to it anyway.
You look for a bulb first, then you build the arena
bitter drift
it rarer then getting every legendary weapon ever
quiet abyss
Atleast Calamity gives you the option to atleast be able to fight Plantera pre mech
bitter drift
well any way let me fix it
ashen warren
Or you clentaminate the entire jungle except for the arena
quiet abyss
...Why is “plantera bulb is useless” still there
We just discussed this
They’re the only way to spawn plantera before you have defeated her
Actually...do you mean that plantera bulb can have a chance to spawn as your enemy idea instead?
wanton sun
or you can buy the summoning item after plantera
quiet abyss
^
quiet abyss
My guess is adir wants enemy that drops living shards so players can farm living shards from them instead
wanton sun
or you know... just kill plantera
heady rain
plantera is hella ez
wanton sun
and... you also know enemies can despawn
heady rain
^
bitter drift
if i do that it means that i need to remove the living shards and the plant mush
wanton sun
having only one spawn and then it despawns will screw you over
quiet abyss
I’m still legit confused at “reason why it spawns is that plantera bulbs are useless, it will make the bulbs more useful”
Like how tf does an enemy make the bulbs more useful?
bitter drift
it annoying after it and i never find it before her
the enemy replace this mechanic after planterra has been defeated means no more blub after planterra except the one you summoned pre planterra
bitter drift
planterra is a hard boss
bitter drift
no
ashen warren
Yes it is
bitter drift
no
ashen warren
Unless you don't build an arena
Stack defense and get the bagh
Rips it to pieces
I had a harder time with the slime king than with plantera
Before. I cheesed
bitter drift
i do dig an arena and my arenas every world is floded with graves
ashen warren
It's so slow though
quiet abyss
...So what you’re saying, is that those enemies will spawn instead of bulbs post plantera...? And they’re there solely cause you don’t have to farm plantera? ...Might as well make a post DoG enemy drops cosmilite bars then. There’s unnecessary farming, and then there’s laziness
ashen warren
Plantera get deleted instantly a
T the point of the game you need to farm Sha
Ds
Shards
God damn this car
bitter drift
i tried to do that in a good way to
a way to get a grind with out having much trouble