suggestions-discussion

[thorn canyon]

there's an anon blobfish on my google doc

[ancient dragon]

@sand harbor No.

[worthy fiber]

[violet talon]

would that be considered a dev item?

prolly tbh

[worthy fiber]

I suppose so

[thorn canyon]

jazz music stops why tho

[sand harbor]

kek

[ancient dragon]

It's both a pet and a dev item. One is something Fab doesn't like coding, the other is reserved for fucking devs.

[worthy fiber]

P sure only dokuro decides what he wants

[violet talon]

^^

[ancient dragon]

^

[thorn canyon]

DM Dokuro bard weapon in calamity when

[violet talon]

lol

[sand harbor]

aight

[bitter topaz]

@hybrid cipher

[thorn canyon]

wut

[worthy fiber]

And he's got the soundtrack in the game anyway, I'd be pretty content with that

[sand harbor]

i mean he spends time making ost for us so...

[bitter topaz]

his choice on what his item is

[quiet abyss]

He already had his stuffs ingame: His ost

[white laurel]

Its better not to suggest dev weapons for other people

[quiet abyss]

I'd feel pretty satisfied if my music gets used in a mod

[violet talon]

^^

[ancient dragon]

Smh Wah you're too kind.

Gotta wipe the floor with 'em.

[sand harbor]

damn, thats pretty cocky tbh

[ancient dragon]

Wh-?

[worthy fiber]

wah?

[white laurel]

What? That people want their own shit in the mod? Now Ill wipe the floor

[ancient dragon]

Very good.

[sand harbor]

you made it sounded like he doesn't deserved to make music for the mod

[violet talon]

fabsol wants his own stuff in the mod

[sand harbor]

lmao

[worthy fiber]

^

[ancient dragon]

We absolutely did not imply that.

[hybrid cipher]

whats going on

[sand harbor]

that's what i got

[violet talon]

dev item suggestion

[white laurel]

I didnt make it sound like that at all. In fact, I said much of the opposite. He deserves what he wants.

[worthy fiber]

this is going on for too long

[white laurel]

^

[violet talon]

^

[white laurel]

End of conversation, dont suggest dev weapons.

[quiet abyss]

"It's both a pet and a dev item. One is something Fab doesn't like coding, the other is reserved for fucking devs."
...I dunno, that sounds kinda implying that Dm doesn't deserve to me, kinda, if you look at it from one angle

[violet talon]

not a weap lol

[sleek wigeon]

Dont suggest dev items for others because its down to the dev to design their own dev item
TLDR

[white laurel]

Items, whatever

[ancient dragon]

You'd have to be an invalid to think that way.

[thorn canyon]

pot calling the kettle black

[quiet abyss]

...I'm prolly looking at it from an odd angle

Like I do with most things

[ancient dragon]

I mean, you're trying to find meaning where there's none to be find by making it sound like I implied that Dokuro's not a dev.

I'll admit I could've worded myself better though.

[quiet abyss]

Like I said, I'm prolly looking at it from an odd angle

[ancient dragon]

Yeah smh.

Anyways let's scoot outta here.

[placid stag]

Tefuq I just witness

[thorn canyon]

suggestion aftermath for a cosmetic item

[signal ibex]

Tf

Every essence gets a weapon

[placid stag]

Should I make a Lazer drill upgrade on tandem with my Drill Mount upgrade?

[thorn canyon]

i really want to add a suggestion

to change ⭐

to upvotes and downvotes

: ^)

[cyan lagoon]

no.

[thorn canyon]

understandable have a great day

[dense nebula]

what if its understandable but u dont have a great day

[opal barn]

You know you can craft the spawner right @sacred thorn?

[dense nebula]

^

[sacred thorn]

oh wait i thought you had to use beeswax in the recipe

[opal barn]

Nah you don't need to

[dense nebula]

i dont remember needing to

[opal barn]

The only thing annoying to get is honey blocks pretty much

[icy kelp]

Quality > quantity of suggestions

[bitter drift]

so the basic is a much more potent fab vodca

[tired haven]

Much more suicidal*

If I'm not mistaken, the debuff 5 times stronger than Holy Flames will kill nearly any build in less than 10 seconds

[violet talon]

reeee

just say "add a holy fire flask"

[bitter drift]

but let's be honest me and him are saying that like you aren't one shooting every thing already

[vague olive]

Just ping him and tell him to edit it

[tired haven]

Too smart

[vague olive]

My brain is too small to understand these gods

[signal ibex]

My ideas got devoured by wall of texts

[delicate raft]

I really don't see the point on knowing how many times you were hit by SCal

I mean, you only have to dodge

[heady comet]

HAHA ANOTHER HITCOUNTER

We fuckin did it bois

[dense nebula]

This may have been the 666th time I’ve seen a scal counter suggestion

[signal ibex]

Git gud

[dense nebula]

I don’t actually know why it isn’t in the game but no one apparently likes it so it isn’t in yet

[narrow yacht]

oh jeez

another hitcounter suggestion

man that hasn't been done before

what a genius

[heady comet]

I believe we have to take into account the span of time and the amount of times it has been suggested

[signal ibex]

Poor dude

[heady comet]

So far it hasnt been added

The hitcounter wont be happening

[signal ibex]

He just got attacked

[narrow yacht]

r.i.p bee

[dense nebula]

will he evolve into a wasp

from his 0 happiness

[narrow yacht]

and then into a hornet

xd

[dense nebula]

then into queen bee

then into pbg

[narrow yacht]

dammit

i was about to say

[dense nebula]

Then into...

scal

[narrow yacht]

supreme bee

oh

[dense nebula]

supreme beelamitas

[narrow yacht]

indeed

[dense nebula]

then into

[narrow yacht]

ascended bee

[dense nebula]

the 🅱EE 👌 👌 💯 💯

[narrow yacht]

[dense nebula]

boy am I getting a Warned role for this

[narrow yacht]

oof

so back to talking about suggestions

[dense nebula]

I don’t like that cause it’s a meme suggestion

🅱E GONE THOT

[narrow yacht]

oh hey bee

hows it goin

oh

[dense nebula]

good to hear

[narrow yacht]

it really is bad

[dense nebula]

I’m overdue on rent

[narrow yacht]

can we get a feelsbeeman

in the chat

[dense nebula]

[narrow yacht]

yes

[dense nebula]

where do u get it from

[narrow yacht]

really?

[heady comet]

No anime allowed

[dense nebula]

weeb

[narrow yacht]

understandable

is that actually a rule?

xd

[dense nebula]

Yes

[hollow shell]

@bitter drift A bit late but it'd probably be better to edit that suggestion to work on its own
like, just "Make a flask that inflicts Holy Flames on enemies" works

[heady comet]

@outer cedar dont talk in there

[ashen warren]

Oof

[dense nebula]

how dare u talk in suggestions

[outer cedar]

...

[hollow shell]

ye TD, this is the discussion channel

[ashen warren]

Minimod

[dense nebula]

GET HOLY BANNED

[outer cedar]

[dense nebula]

🅱OI

[outer cedar]

NOOO PLEASE FORGIVE MEH

I'M SORRY

DON'T KILL ME

[dense nebula]

I don’t care that’s up to the mods to decide

[ashen warren]

Welp, this just went to Insanity

How’s my suggestion?

[dense nebula]

I like it

[ashen warren]

Thank

[dense nebula]

but it seems irrelevantn

[ashen warren]

It’s really just a way to spice up the Abyss visually

[dense nebula]

but it’s already spiced up visually

[visual sorrel]

oh wow

[dense nebula]

you have half the fuckers tryna touch ur pp

hiding

[ashen warren]

Well, we need something that makes it clear that people lived there once

[dense nebula]

and half the other fuckers haven’t spawned yet

[ashen warren]

Added to it

tbh what if there was levi bones scattered across the bottom two layers of the abyss

since , ya know , her back half was forsaken

[dense nebula]

ooo I like that

[ashen warren]

How would those even fit in?

idk

[dense nebula]

but who ever goes to the bottom of the abyss

[ashen warren]

And Leviathan is getting new lore after the new sprite is done

[tired haven]

Why not implement block similar to spooky wood and not try to prevent sequence break

[ashen warren]

Abyss chests are made with spooky wood

[tired haven]

[devout seal]

Levi's new sprite will have her back half intact.

[ashen warren]

Maybe a new Abyss Wood?

And Thanks Ion

theres no trees in the abyss

Abyss Trees

[dense nebula]

lmao

next grass fish

which I think that actually exists

[ashen warren]

Honestly the Abyss needs a visual update. It looks dead

[dense nebula]

cause it is

[ashen warren]

No plant life. Just dead

fucking megalodon miniboss and rename the gun to bulletfish

Make it spawn in hell

abyss is supposed to look dead

[sleek wadi]

I kinda want to see Uelibloom ore replaced with a wood and require a high-end axe to chop down.

[ashen warren]

So it’s the Bullet Fish Hell

And Uelibloom is the roots

theres kinda no sunlight so there can't be any real plant life

Uh

planty mush doesnt count

Real life oceans have plants that receive like, no plant life

[devout seal]

@vestal comet That idea of bosses getting buffed and getting new music would be good, If MP3 files weren't the reason the mod has so much filespace taken up.

[ashen warren]

*sunlight

Wait

Wasn’t the Abyss a Subnautica reference in its baby days?

[tired haven]

It still is smh

[ashen warren]

Guess what

[tired haven]

Eidolon wyrm my ass

[ashen warren]

Lost River has no sunlight bois

Theres lots of plants in there

[visual sorrel]

plant

[dense nebula]

this isn’t needed

what variety would u need

[hollow shell]

btw Imitable, axes aren't used to break wood blocks
they're used to break trees

[dense nebula]

^

[ashen warren]

Fuck

[dense nebula]

300 iq

[outer cedar]

Just a way to make buffed events mean more than just buffed stats.

[ashen warren]

Welp. I just made the most QoL suggestion for the Abyss ever

[visual sorrel]

plant

[ashen warren]

Yes

[hollow shell]

also "Abyssal Fog"?
you mean the low light level?

[visual sorrel]

what does QoL mean again?

[ashen warren]

Yes

[hollow shell]

quality of life

Then just say that Reaper Crystal provides light

er

is good at raising the light level

https://calamitymod.gamepedia.com/Abyss#Light_Level

[ashen warren]

Okek

[bitter drift]

yap but it's very good in my opinion the abyss is looking dead right now

[ashen warren]

That’s pretty bad for a mod that’s supposed to have the most badass and coolass shit out there

[visual sorrel]

yeah

[bitter drift]

well the abyss can use that love

[visual sorrel]

a

[ashen warren]

Changed the Reaper Crystal

[bitter drift]

from where you get that crystal

[hollow shell]

christ on a christmas, 10?

[ashen warren]

Too much?

[hollow shell]

it should be 3 or 5 so as to not completely trivialize the darkness of the deep Abyss

[ashen warren]

Ok

[bitter drift]

i will put it like that

[hollow shell]

hell maybe even 2

[outer cedar]

1

[visual sorrel]

0

[outer cedar]

-1

[bitter drift]

the lowest level is in need 7 for full lighting

[ashen warren]

It’s raised by 4

_> enjoy

[bitter drift]

ok better

[ashen warren]

And it’s found where the Reaper Shits are

[bitter drift]

you mean level 3

[ashen warren]

I thought they were Level 4 exclusive

[bitter drift]

no it's level 3 and 4

[ashen warren]

Ok

I’m leaving it at 4 tho

Since it makes it not easy to achieve

[bitter drift]

ok now i will able to sea in the abyss 🥁 🥁 🥁

[ashen warren]

Any way I can improve my plant life suggestions

we need more subnautica references !

smh

Blood Leaches

:Sm ugyon:

Fuck the world

reaper shark bones scattered across layer 4

Now that can work

you use

im on mobile and im too lazy to type it out

Maybe a furniture set?

use in the seadragon , SDFMG , and the abyss related weapon recipes

Omegalodon

now you shut the hell

I already made the suggestion

Ages ago

not exploded

Make that all on suggestion

what

I make joke

i dont get said joke

Then I do not continue on this

Your suggestion is cools and goods

what about an abyss flashlight lmao

[bitter drift]

name reaper bones

[ashen warren]

lets you see a small bit when your light level is too low

How many Abyss suggestions can we fit into the suggestions channel

[bitter drift]

ill delete

[ashen warren]

Oh god

[fervent zealot]

lodsabyss suggestions

[ashen warren]

bwst oof

my suggestion seems like an extra step to nothingness tbh

just a nuisance to code since theres no reason to add it , really

Lol

unless its used in the furniture

which HAS been sprites

sprited*

Oof

speaking of which

how would you make the abyss furniture ?

Deep Cell bois, Reaper tooth bois, And some cereal Abyss Gorl shit

what is auto correct making out of my typing?!

cereal abyss gorl shit ?

what the fuck

Auto correct fucking hates me

what were you trying to type lmao

It doesn’t matter

I honestly have no clue on what I’m doing anymore

ya know what you wanna eat it all out of y'all lol

thats what happens when you spam predictive text

[bitter drift]

is this already been taken

[dense nebula]

sacks literly

what

[ashen warren]

Curst Flame

[crude quartz]

you took yet another idea from someone I see

[ashen warren]

[bitter topaz]

one second wasn't adir banned from #suggestions-voting by sarg?

[crude quartz]

also 2 kinds of bullets

[ashen warren]

_>

[crude quartz]

idfk

[bitter drift]

i did?

[dense nebula]

[white laurel]

apparently not

[ashen warren]

New Role: Suggestion Ban

[crude quartz]

you can set it by person

[ashen warren]

Swet

[white laurel]

ye, thats how we have been doing it

[bitter drift]

do i need to delete that

[white laurel]

though a role isnt a bad idea

[crude quartz]

happened to that nine tailed fury guy before he got banned from the server

nah do it without a role

[ashen warren]

_> whom?

[crude quartz]

too little to warrant one

[bitter drift]

@crude quartz do i need to delete that

[crude quartz]

wha

[bitter drift]

the suggestion do i need to delete it

[dense nebula]

I actually love this sacks literly lmao

[ashen warren]

that hell bullet thing sounds

kinda op tbh

^

on normal enemies at least

It doesn’t say it doesn’t affect bosses

_>

[bitter topaz]

even with hand this thing penetrates the fuck does this mean

[left crag]

RIP English

[bitter drift]

at this point in the game you do that any way

[dense nebula]

Bosses have immunities

[crude quartz]

its just that Yami already did bullets made from Armored shells

[ashen warren]

Oh yeah I keep forgetting basic shit

[bitter drift]

and how it was

[ashen warren]

i really like the bullets

actually

[dense nebula]

but lmao sacks literly curst flames even with hand this thing penetrates

[ashen warren]

the void bullets sound like a boss challenge waiting to happen

[dense nebula]

mayb

[ashen warren]

doggo with void bullets

[bitter drift]

like a boss that drag you to him

[ashen warren]

ceaseless BOYD

ill leave

[bitter drift]

y and mayb do that on CV

he is a void after all and this is where the bullet got from

@crude quartz is my concept of the bullet and his aren't the same or they are the same

can't find it

[crude quartz]

they're slightly different so it doesn't matter

[ashen warren]

What purpose does that serve? @ashen warren

[dense nebula]

to troll ur friends if u have any

[ashen warren]

Yep

[crude quartz]

tMod doesn't support minecart stuff

no use

[ashen warren]

aww

That’s more useless that useless

[dense nebula]

useless that useless

[ashen warren]

It was worth a try.

I hope It gets added in a future official though.

I'd love to make people fall or make my self fall by use of switch/button track like, I have a network of tracks crossing my hellivators, so what if I want to go down my hellivator instead of get off cart then fall? I flip switch, then yeah.

saves me a step.

you lose a minecart tho

??

[dense nebula]

he means u fall while on the minecsrt I thibk

t h I b k

[ashen warren]

Don't you auto dismount?

[dense nebula]

No

I don’t remember u do anyways

[vague olive]

No you dont

[ashen warren]

So you have to manually dismount

[vague olive]

Yep

[ashen warren]

still not a problem if you want to switch travel in your network

[bitter drift]

what a bad suggestion?

[ashen warren]

but if it can't be done it can't be done. sighs

[bitter drift]

not a cart

a mount

[vague olive]

ok why is it called a blighted saddle and how would you even get it @bitter drift

[bitter drift]

it said there i edited it and yes it's the best i can do when you say grammer

[ashen warren]

Like where I'd use an actuator track if it existed. Activate it by switch earlier on the path.

one way track here cause boosters ahead.

[vague olive]

Seems interesting

[sleek wadi]

light theme

How are you not blind yet

[ashen warren]

Cause I'm already with bad eye sight, I don't do well with dark colors.

[vague olive]

I saw

[bitter drift]

then abyss is no go for you

[rugged finch]

I would like to see an actuator track too, I use minecarts p often

[unique vector]

@bitter drift not sure if slime saddle would be useful after WoF

then again i didnt reach hardmode yet

but even an upgrade doesnt seem useful that late in the game imo

[cobalt ferry]

slime saddle is usefull up untill golem

i would love an upgrade

[violet talon]

we already have bean mount

lol

just dont use shrines then

[ashen warren]

I love slime saddle for its utility and movement options.

Can't it use your balloons and stuff to jump many times?

[hollow shell]

@patent copper So.. Solar Armor's set bonus?

[ashen warren]

also slime saddle is buffed by summoner stuff.

[patent copper]

huh?

[heady comet]

Asgards valor

[patent copper]

honestly i've never crafted solar armor i don't use mele is that a thing that already exists?

[hollow shell]

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/terraria_gamepedia/2/2e/SolarFlareDash.gif?version=c3d2d20e9d2ad5262488879414dc7060

[patent copper]

but what if i want a better dash and i'm a summonor?

[hollow shell]

Asgard's Valor :D

[tardy blaze]

Asgard valor

[heady comet]

.>

[patent copper]

the main purpose of the dash imo is dodging

[hollow shell]

Master Ninja Gear, then

[tardy blaze]

stardust

Armor

[ashen warren]

why not armor + master ninja and that pink star charm thing (I forget the name always)?

[hollow shell]

Star Veil?

[ashen warren]

I think so.

[patent copper]

i don't thing the star veil has a dash

[ashen warren]

you use all three for the I frames/dodging ability

[heady comet]

Statis' ninja belt has a dash if im not wrong

[patent copper]

also the master ninja gear has i frames not a dash i think. theirs a bit of a diffrence betwene me not getting damage because i frames and having the mobility to make an attack not hit me

[hollow shell]

Nah, Ninja Gear has a dash

[ashen warren]

well having both isn't a bad idea

[patent copper]

true

[hollow shell]

same dash as Shield of Cthulhu, except it goes through enemies instead of impacting them

even better for dodging

[ashen warren]

I may use star cloak + inferno potion and ninja gear and one of the other things for duke.

[patent copper]

right now my build is foceused around the butterfly staff from thorim as it summons 3 minions/slot

[hollow shell]

Aight bottom line is
get Asgard's Valor because it's exactly what you want

[patent copper]

k

[ashen warren]

I just can't avoid his attacks for long enough.

[patent copper]

i'm not super familiar with calamity progression but from the recipie i think asgard's vallor is pre moonlord?

[hollow shell]

ye

[ashen warren]

So either I go full glass with Avenger+ mech glove + destroyer + Warrior and just wings on asphalt.

[hollow shell]

Don't even need an Ancient Manipulator for it

[ashen warren]

and fight duke fishy in the sky and enraged

and hit him with my yoyos

[patent copper]

i think a ml drop that adds a acessory in revengence would be cool is that already a thing?

*acessory slot

[hollow shell]

.. yes

It's Expert, actually

[white laurel]

Celestial Onion

[ashen warren]

but after golem so i have the beetle armor.

[hollow shell]

You gotta play some more Calamity, bro

[white laurel]

Ye, its not wise to make suggestions if you dont know about half of the content

[patent copper]

oh yea i remember that now it didn't work because we had the mod that adds the heart of nature which adds one post plantara

[heady comet]

.>

[hollow shell]

👀

[cyan lagoon]

7 is the hardcoded limit

[hollow shell]

yeah, funny story about that

[patent copper]

is that unmodifiable?

also they'res the wing slot mod works even if you have 7 slots already

[hollow shell]

Yeah, it seems like Terraria originally intended for a 7th slot
so mods are able to add that

but it's way harder to do any more than that

[patent copper]

how does wing slot do it then?

[hollow shell]

Ask Wing Slot man

[heady comet]

Wingslot does it but its buggy

[patent copper]

is that guy some kind of code wizzard?

lol

I wondor if what he did was add an inventory slot or something like that

[sinful violet]

Ask cheat sheet guy tbh

[lucid marsh]

Wing slot bugs: if you have an item in the slot, you can replace it with any other item. Also I noticed that mods that add a 7th accessory slot dont stack to an 8th.

[alpine copper]

Tho rev already increases spawn rates and there's also the demon throphy

[violet talon]

and zerg

isnt zerging enough for you lol?

(not for me tho tbh)

[hollow shell]

@gritty kiln Voltaic Climax

[gritty kiln]

Perhaps it's recipe should instead be replaced with Yharon Soul Fragments then

It's only one stage up progression wise

[hollow shell]

Did you mean to say that they should be crafted at a Draedon's Forge instead of Ancient Manipulator?
Because that's the one thing they have in common with each other that they don't with other weapons at the same tier

[gritty kiln]

Scourge of the Cosmos and the Empyrean Knives both require Darksun Fragments to craft. The suggestion was that what would seem to be their mage equivalent should also require Darksun Fragments to balance it out

[hollow shell]

What?

Alpha Ray and Magnetic Meltdown are in the same tier as Galaxia, the Minigun, Alluvion, and Primordial Ancient
not those

[cyan lagoon]

Then mage would have nearly zero options for post-dog all the way to pre-ds yharon

[gritty kiln]

Previously all of these were crafted with Cosmilite Bars, not requiring Darksun Fragments. Now SotC and EK are post-first Yharon and Bumblebirb

They'd have no less options than Melee or Throwing tbh

[hollow shell]

!?!?!

[cyan lagoon]

with only primordial ancient and the mage sentinel weps

[hollow shell]

Are you forgetting about Galaxia and Devil's Devastation?

[gritty kiln]

I wouldn't really view those as equivalent

[cyan lagoon]

if you're going to move them up into post-darksun

you're going to have to buff all four of those weapons i mentioned

[hollow shell]

I don't think SotC or EK were ever not crafted with Darksun Fragments...

[quiet abyss]

Ye, iirc those two have always been crafted with darksun frags

[hollow shell]

Wait

Oh no, I'm wrong
They originally didn't

[quiet abyss]

Oh? Huh

[gritty kiln]

Most of the melee options that aren't SotC or Empyrean Knives are mediocre anyways, moving them upwards wouldn't do them any favours

[worthy raptor]

yeah when they were first added they were pre p1

but they were pretty busted

[cyan lagoon]

greatsword of blah though got moved down

and now its a great weapon because of its earlier obtainability

which is the third option to the darksun weapons

[hollow shell]

@ashen warren The big problem with that is the Dungeon

current Abyss gen already cuts off the Dungeon sometimes, widening it any more will only cause more interruption

[ashen warren]

I did think about that however i've played around 10 playthroughs of calamity since the abyss was added and only one of those the abyss cut off part of the dungeon

And it was only about 1 room

Cutting off another one is a small price for having lots more fun content

Perhaps some worldgen override that pushes the dungeon away from the abyss?

[west prairie]

I'd change the description to "For the mortally challenged"

[past cape]

If only dealing with hardcoded worldgen was that easy

[ashen warren]

Yea i'm not a coder so i wouldn't know about that stuff

[hollow shell]

I mean, I agree that it'd be nice if the Abyss was wider
I always felt like it was kinda cramped, felt smaller than it should

Gonna need to find some kind of compromise to protect the Dungeon if that'll happen, though

[neon panther]

ye abyss and dungeon dont get along well

I wish we could have the abyss on the other side, but then the eidolist lore doesn’t make sense

[hollow shell]

I'm thinking
maybe when the Abyss generates, it doesn't overwrite any Dungeon tiles or walls, perhaps instead turning them into like...
Drenched Bricks?

So the Dungeon can get kinda... built-in to the Abyss, while still keeping both of them safe

[neon panther]

suggest that tbh

[ashen warren]

Could also work that into the lore mayhaps

[neon panther]

I kinda want a pin of some sorts that tells you to ask yourself: “is this really something calamity could use or is it just a wild idea I had in my mind that I want in-game, and also, is this good enough for calamity?” I see a lot of low-effort suggestions nowadays

[ashen warren]

The flooded dungeon

I agree with hyperin whole-heartedly

[narrow halo]

There used to be a very good cheat sheet on identifying good and bad suggestions on the Minecraft forums, but it got nuked for some reason

[alpine copper]

I just read a suggestion and I am confused, as far as I remember, chaotic ore isn't found in the Profaned crags

[worthy fiber]

^

[sleek wadi]

Used to be in hell but it got moved to the abyss because reasons.

[alpine copper]

Exactly

[quiet abyss]

It's mainly for 2 reasons:
1.) To give incentive to go to the Abyss
2.) The chaotic ores had issues with generating into the underworld buildings, which makes building arena for WoF tedious and annoying as shit, since you can't mine them with pre-hm stuffs.

[little jolt]

It was a good change tbh

[ashen warren]

Eh I was look at the tax collector npc and wondered why can't we purify the nymph?

But no ideas on what she can do for us.

maybe sell heart-themed items?

Anything besides heart crystals though

so many potions are heart shaped.

@ashen warren chaotic ore doesnt spawn in the crags

it never has

Oof

Wait what ore was it

Charred ore yeah?

[quiet abyss]

Charred ores, yes

[ashen warren]

charred ore indeed spawns in crag

[quiet abyss]

^

[ashen warren]

unholy cores at this point are pretty useless

[ancient dragon]

Nnnnope.

[quiet abyss]

Well, not completely.
Brimblade and Brimrose staff are great

[ancient dragon]

^

Brimrose fucking shreds Clonelamitas.

[quiet abyss]

Though I do agree that the unholy cores should have a bit more use

[ashen warren]

Good to know

i have been beaned with knowledge

[upper zinc]

[quiet abyss]

Its fine.
There's lot of stuffs in Calamity, so you're bound to run into a couple info about stuffs you don't know

[ashen warren]

Well I haven't gotten that far

an armor ? but thats unlikely since perennial is on the same tier .... i think ?

i dont remember

havent played calamity for two weeks

evacuation and stuffs

[quiet abyss]

Perennial is after Plantera, Unholy Core is after hallowed pickaxe

So Unholy Cores are one tier below.
Unless you make the armor have higher tier materials

[ashen warren]

yeah

[signal ibex]

ADIR

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUDGE

Did you just

rip my idea off?

nvm

Its just the same name

[ashen warren]

dont text like that :((

[signal ibex]

Ik sorry ;-;

[ashen warren]

its aight lol

minimode deactivating

[signal ibex]

he almost stole my void bullet idea ;-;

Sheesh i already posted a void bullet idea.

[neon panther]

that’s not really minimod tbh, just a request

[signal ibex]

the hecks a minimod

[neon panther]

someone who takes the role of a mod whilst not being a mod

[ashen warren]

a person

not really that , just someone who does that A LOT

[signal ibex]

Ooh okie

Adir just stole my void bullet idea

[ashen warren]

most suggestions branch off into a small section of the chat all about one subject

[signal ibex]

Oh...

[ashen warren]

such as the abyss suggestions from earlier

[signal ibex]

Sheesh i was gonna sue him for that.

[neon panther]

I mean you make like 5 suggestions a day so theres bound to be a repeat at some point

[ashen warren]

most of them are good

they do sorta drown out the chat sometimes , but 90% of the time they're not a problem

[signal ibex]

5 suggestions a day?

what a understatement

[neon panther]

9 today so far iirc

[ashen warren]

hes creative , let him do is thing

his*

[signal ibex]

okie

[neon panther]

Yeah ok fair enough

[ashen warren]

there was 4 from 6-7 this morning if i counted right

[hollow shell]

@signal ibex [cough]

[cough cough]

[quiet abyss]

^

[neon panther]

was gonna mention that at first but didnt know if I’d do it nicely since I’m a bit grumpy rn

[ashen warren]

Beat me to it

[neon panther]

but I mean, “make pandemic rain down plague missiles” is valid

also imo PB shouldnt get any PBG drops

[signal ibex]

Oh nani

FACEPALM

[earnest raptor]

My Warriors got 46 stars?

Yey

[signal ibex]

NANI

THATS MUCH MORE

THAN MY PLAGUE BOMB ;-;

[west rock]

Ok

[signal ibex]

Eh nvm is way different

[hollow shell]

Deus ex, when/how would that weapon be obtained?

[ancient dragon]

I should start inquiring about that too, mb.

[west rock]

After Providence

[signal ibex]

How bout a drop from profaned bois?

[neon panther]

I like the idea yami but imo the fourth one should be a fourth different projectile instead of just random ones

[signal ibex]

Holy Bombardier JR.

RNG yoyo's must be a thing

Oh

the fourth projectile

[neon panther]

yeah

[signal ibex]

There i changed it to the non existent astral flames

[neon panther]

neato

been suggested before

[vital grotto]

@earnest raptor give them a chance to occasionally fire homing plauge rockets

[quiet abyss]

@earnest raptor https://gyazo.com/c4a49afa6262266416b56ed09bdc90e9

[ashen warren]

i believe that one may already be getting in but i'm not sure

[sinful violet]

There's so many repeated summon suggestions smh

[ashen warren]

As i've seen a lot of pbg sprites on art server

[vital grotto]

ikr

[sinful violet]

im gonna post some of my more original ones

[vital grotto]

cool

[earnest raptor]

[neon panther]

I made a wyvern staff once

was like, my first message here

it fucking sucked

[ashen warren]

eidolon wrym summon please

[earnest raptor]

Deleted.

[neon panther]

insert reee about stats whilst ignoring “preliminary”

[ancient dragon]

@vital grotto You already posted that in the ST server, this is basically begging for conflict.

[vital grotto]

so?

[ancient dragon]

If both mods accept the suggestion, someone'll get yelled at.

[vital grotto]

whoever gets it first gets it

[ancient dragon]

That's... a horrible way of thinking.

[neon panther]

that’s uh... not a great idea

[vital grotto]

it's unlikely either will though

[ancient dragon]

Don't work on what's likely, work with every possibility.

[west rock]

There is a possibility

[quiet abyss]

No, it will happen.

If there is even a slight possibility of it happening, it will happen.
What can go wrong, will

[vital grotto]

ok

who do you all think it should go to

[neon panther]

wait what does st stand for? I’m guessing spirit but I could be an idiot

[ancient dragon]

The one you posted first, which is ST.

Also ST is SacredTools.

[vital grotto]

sacredtools

[neon panther]

that’s right am dumb

[vital grotto]

wait you 2 arent devs so i dont have to delete it so

[ancient dragon]

I'm a moderator in ST so I can just delete it there.

[west rock]

call the mods

[ancient dragon]

Or I could go one step further and ping a mod to delete it here as well.

[quiet abyss]

If you're to suggest an item, no matter how good it is don't suggest it to more than one mod. Otherwise conflicts will arise if more than one mod happens to accept the suggestion, however unlikely the possibility is.

[earnest raptor]

Making starred good suggestions in my mod also counts?

[quiet abyss]

Yes. Cause if your mod has the same item as another mod, conflicts will arise

[vital grotto]

ok i've decided

ill delete the one here

[ancient dragon]

Kinda like Thorium's Nuclear Fury which still has people yammering on about how it's copying Calamity even though it's a donator item specifically for Fabsol.

[vital grotto]

and replace it with another weapon inspired from it!

[ancient dragon]

Righty then.

[quiet abyss]

@vital grotto Plague Scythe is called Soul Harvester btw https://gyazo.com/65487163aa81509869294f604abc097d

[vital grotto]

whoops

thanks for the point-out

[vital grotto]

and some detail about the weapon: the reaper does several times more than the base damage of the weapon. i didn't want to put that in there because i hoped people would understand that without me specifying it, and that it would bloat the already-long suggestion and make it harder to read

also, the reaper has a big hitbox and passes through tiles

the scythe blades pass through tiles as well

[ancient dragon]

You might wanna update your suggestion as opposed to telling us because what's in this channel ain't gettin' sent along with the suggestion itself.

[vital grotto]

welp

@earnest raptor

dude

let people actually get into the thing

[quiet abyss]

^

[vital grotto]

we need permission or something smh

[quiet abyss]

You forgot to make it accessible for us.
Also, make sure that we can only view it. Allowing everyone to edits your suggestion is asking for disaster.

[earnest raptor]

Oops

Patched!

Hmmm, why discord not show part of doc.

[vital grotto]

dual blades may look different but they have the exact same effects as "rod" weapons

might as well roll with those

[cinder locust]

Wait you mean every enemy or just most?

[vital grotto]

doesent even tell what class it is
doesnt tell crafting recepie/drop/tier
in general, kinda half-assed and OP concept

[ancient dragon]

God-tier pairing with Brain of Confusion, but otherwise yes, the suggestion is pretty lackluster.

[vital grotto]

if it did 3x damage on enemies and lifestealed on-hit and was some post-ML tier, it might go somewhere as a suggestion, but that's just my 2 cents

oh great

i'd be getting a low tier weapon killing slimes with godslayer stuff every 5 seconds

what fun

no more scaling weapons

just no

pudding pls

[ancient dragon]

@sturdy dock Help please.

[sturdy dock]

?

[ancient dragon]

This man's digging himself a grave.

You're memeing.

Though I'll admit I didn't double-check who made the original suggestion and that's pretty

[sturdy dock]

wait, zplo?

[ancient dragon]

Nah, Pudding.

[cobalt ferry]

Oh crap thats a legit rule

Sorry

Ill delete messages

[ancient dragon]

I feel like the bigger fool for not checking who actually made the suggestion anyways.

[cobalt ferry]

[ancient dragon]

Doesn't mean you didn't do anything, you nerd.

[cobalt ferry]

Imo the idea could be a viable thing

If it was nerfed into the ground

[quiet abyss]

...What's your idea again?

[cobalt ferry]

And was made from psycho knife and bloodflare cores

I didnt have an idea

It was deus ex machinas

If it was possible to make a psycho knife varient

With lifesteal on full stealth

And on backstab

That would be pretty neat

[quiet abyss]

"On attack on enemy's backside, instantly kill enemy, and gain 75% of their health"?
Oi Oi, make that not work on enemies above certain HP threshold and minibosses as well, that's a bit busted.

@west rock

@ashen warren "3 times every 2 minutes"
...Excuse moi?

[ashen warren]

I should make that more clear

Ok, I think it’s more clear

[quiet abyss]

"3 times in the span of 2 minutes"
...Excuse moi!?
Even if Rage is 25% less powerful, that's still quite...
...Hmm, but then again, it does require an accessory slot.

[ashen warren]

Oh shit, it doesn’t state it’s an accessory slot

[quiet abyss]

[ashen warren]

It fixed now

[cobalt ferry]

Idea

Replace draedons heart with that item

[quiet abyss]

Hmm well, I'm not sure about this one.
On one hand, excessive amount of Rage uses can be quite overpowered.
On the other hand, it requires an acc slot.

[ashen warren]

So win loss

[quiet abyss]

Pretty much...

[ancient dragon]

I think Rage's boost should be cut down by 50%, not 25.

[quiet abyss]

Actually, it might work, since Rage damage boost disappears on hit.

[cobalt ferry]

Requiring an accessory slot isnt really that much of a downside tbh

[quiet abyss]

So it's a high risk/hish reward acc

One more accessory can make big differences actually

[ashen warren]

Uh, loosing an accessory slot in Calamity is a big big deal

[quiet abyss]

^ Eeyup

[ancient dragon]

I'm a bit conflicted but it does sound like a cool idea.

[cobalt ferry]

Tbh damage cap

And most of that damage cap is buffs

[ashen warren]

I can expand on the idea an make an Auric tier upgrade with Dradans Hort

[ancient dragon]

Dradan's Hort.

[ashen warren]

New meme

[quiet abyss]

Dradon's Hertz - A new unit for frequency

[ashen warren]

I have to go now, so don’t expect me to respond for a while

[quiet abyss]

"This accelerated build up of Rage and Adrenaline.'
"Rage and Adrenaline"
"Adrenaline"

Although

30% less effective might compensate for that nicely...I think?

Might need to be 40% or more depending on how much faster adrenaline charges

@bitter drift Oi, 50 bars are a bit excessive. Lower it to atleast 15.

[bitter drift]

but at the same time it's an ez bar to get just kill 2-3 EoC and it's a pre hard mode thing

[sudden quail]

Upgrades to the two guns aren't really needed, cause there are already plenty of guns in Hardmode that fulfill their purpose.

[bitter drift]

i get it but why these guns turn to a mage weapon

[quiet abyss]

Yes, but do lower it a bit. 50 bars are a bit excessive.
...How about 30 bars?

[sudden quail]

Why would a melee weapon turn into a mage weapon? (Apotheosis)

[bitter drift]

what

[quiet abyss]

Cosmic Discharge and Excelsus, the melee weapons are used in Apotheosis's recipe

[bitter drift]

still make no sans sens (how do you type that)

[quiet abyss]

sense

[sudden quail]

sense.

[bitter drift]

ok thanks

[sudden quail]

There's no "sans" in there.

[bitter drift]

i didn't know how to type it

in any way turned it to 35 demonite /crimtane bars

[sudden quail]

Crimtane.

[quiet abyss]

@earnest raptor "Any rage booster"?
There's only Heart of Darkness and Draedon's Heart...
And using accessories to make potions feel...bizarre.
Might wanna change that to something else.

[bitter drift]

i think he means the things that boost rage's power

like the bumble birb drop

[quiet abyss]

Ah, those? That could work, then

[bitter drift]

if it will not kill you

maybe the debuff name will be coma it will make you un moveable for 20 sec and at the time you rage will fill it self when the debuff is gone rage will be full instade

[quiet abyss]

Also, If I calculated accurately, the potion will leave you with...5% hp left if you use it at Full HP, if life regenerations are not taken into account.
20 seconds is still a while though.
Make it 5 seconds, with 2000 rage gain/second, and 19% maxhp/sec. That way it's still be full rage gain and left you with 5% hp, but is a lot faster.
Blocking all kinds of healing for 5 mins is a bit excessive though, might wanna make it 10 seconds instead.
And give the potion itself a long cooldown, like around 5 mins.

[night cradle]

is it worth to kill ??? to get siren's heart?

[quiet abyss]

Wrong channel, buddy

[bitter drift]

idk

[night cradle]

OH WAIT

[sudden quail]

And also yes it is worth

[sinful violet]

which one?

Uhh

Yeah

My question still stands

Anyhow, that’s not really needed in #suggestions-discussion

[bitter drift]

my thinking with this suggestion is that you will be so fast that you can't control your self

[quiet abyss]

Adrenaline generate faster-?
And it's a potion!?

And no bad points no less, jesus christ

[austere orchid]

😱

[bitter drift]

i didn't say how much faster

[austere orchid]

26387589327897489237 times the speed >>

[quiet abyss]

Then elaborate on it and say "Makes you move very, very fast"

[austere orchid]

in fact isn't that around light speed...

[bitter drift]

is this to fast or still to slow (i want the player to be fast at the point of no control but he will be able to win a boss fight)

[quiet abyss]

Does the potion has unlimited use? May I ask?

If not, jesus christ that much recipe for one potion seems a bit....excessive.
Also, +50% movement speed still isn't to the point where it's really tough to control your character
Make it +250% atleast.

[bitter drift]

yes

[quiet abyss]

If it's unlimited, give it a cool down too

Wait no

Nvm

[bitter drift]

120 seconds is the cooldown

[quiet abyss]

Ye, good enough 👍

Give it atleast 250% movement speed.
Maybe even 300%

50% movement speed still ain't terribly fast

[bitter drift]

now all that is left is the adrenalin at how much it fills every time

with out any thing

[quiet abyss]

With no upgrades, 45 seconds to charge.
Electrolyte Gel Pack and Starlight Fuel Cell reduces the charge time by 10 seconds.
Ectoheart by 5 seconds.
So 45 -> 35 -> 25 -> 20 seconds

Maybe make the potion reduce charge time by 5 seconds?
So 40 -> 30 -> 20 -> 15

[bitter drift]

so adrenalin turn from 45 to 40

[quiet abyss]

Mhm

[bitter drift]

i thing that a good idea thanks

[quiet abyss]

A bit more: Add "(unlimited use)" in so people know that it's unlimited use.

[bitter drift]

but it is with a cooldown

[quiet abyss]

Hmm true, but non-unlimited potions can have cooldown as well.

[bitter drift]

o

is there a red shiren heart

[quiet abyss]

No there isn't. Only blue and green

Which has hunter and dangersense potion effects respectively

[bitter drift]

what is the difrens

[sudden quail]

Just the hunter/dangersense

[quiet abyss]

Apart from that, both siren hearts shares the same effect

[bitter drift]

ah so is some one gonna do another type of it with spalancker instade of hunter/dangersense

[quiet abyss]

No clue. Haven't seen any siren heart suggestion though

Only suggestions for accs that use siren's heart as recipe

[bitter drift]

is the blue one give dangersense

[sudden quail]

spelunker* Huge butchering there

[quiet abyss]

Blue is hunter, green is dangersense

[bitter drift]

ok

trying to fine a connection in the colors

not working

[ancient dragon]

Spalanck me, daddy.

[bitter drift]

did you just throw colors with out any meaning

[ancient dragon]

...?

[quiet abyss]

They prolly did...

🤷

[bitter drift]

make sense

[quiet abyss]

Mhm

@ancient dragon Here's ya spalanck 🗞 💥

[ancient dragon]

[quiet abyss]

👀 ...I thought you only feel pleasure if its Sarg...

[ancient dragon]

Naah. I don't feel it at all.

Also that's a good-ass debuff. I like it.

[quiet abyss]

Oh
Also, nice debuff, and rip KS cheese

[bitter drift]

what is the opposite of blue

[sudden quail]

Give it to Slime God too so he doesn't feel left out

[quiet abyss]

red

[bitter drift]

acept red

i already know i'm a butcher of words

[sudden quail]

except* accept and except are completely different words

[quiet abyss]

Opposite of blue but not red

[ancient dragon]

Yellow.

[quiet abyss]

^

[bitter drift]

how

maybe we need to change these heart colors

[ancient dragon]

Well they're more... complementary.

Color theory's a pain. Go look it up if you feel so inclined to learn about it.

[bitter drift]

wasn't done

[ancient dragon]

@wanton sun Put your healing potions in slots above all others so they take priority.

[wanton sun]

i know its kind of a bad fix but its one that shouldnt even happen

yes its easy to fix but i almost died to slime god because of that

[quiet abyss]

...Sounds more like a personal thing instead of actual suggestion tbh.
Also, messing with the obscure part of Vanilla codes is not a good idea

[ancient dragon]

There's also likely other mods that either tried to or succeeded at tampering with it.

[vague olive]

@floral dirge anti-cheese was removed a while ago, its not being brought back

[ancient dragon]

Rev/Death, could just be Death if anything to make him an actual threat.

[pallid swift]

I swear that suggestion about the largest heal item being consumed is already a thing

Might just be because it's a modded item, but when I go caving early game I notice that I get though all my regular health pots before my lesser ones, regardless of their place in my inventory

[bitter drift]

but one thing is right there at least the clown need a nerf

[sudden quail]

Clown?

[sleek wigeon]

Adir please take your time and spell

[sudden quail]

I don't think anyone made suggestions regarding clowns

[quiet abyss]

Adir prolly means clone in my suggestion...

I think?

[sleek wigeon]

How do you mispell clone as clown?

Even if english isnt a first langague thats just... what?

[quiet abyss]

🤷 Adir had butchered a lot of words before

[sleek wigeon]

Spalanker

yes ive noticed

[sudden quail]

Spalancker, crimtaint... the list goes on

That's not really good

[worthy fiber]

@hybrid cipher nother one

[quiet abyss]

Oh fuck

[bitter topaz]

@hybrid cipher a 4th fucking LORDE

[worthy fiber]

Sorry for duo ping

but yes another one

[sudden quail]

Gonna be trio ping in a moment

[potent vortex]

@sage niche no

[ancient dragon]

"Request this boss to die instantly"

[hybrid cipher]

@sage niche warned for meme suggestion

[sage niche]

why did I get warned??

[potent vortex]

Lorde is a bad meme

[hybrid cipher]

i literally just told you

[sudden quail]

[sage niche]

NO I ACTUALY LIKE THE LORDE!!

[sudden quail]

Good shitpost tbh

[bitter topaz]

either way it's a shit meme

[potent vortex]

It's still a meme

[hybrid cipher]

ahem
No.

[potent vortex]

A shitty meme

[hybrid cipher]

Get out of this channel, continue and you will be muted.

[ancient dragon]

McGottem™.

[ashen warren]

Yo

[quiet abyss]

Can we please have a pin saying that Lorde suggestions won't be accepted.

[worthy fiber]

Kinda general knowledge tho

[quiet abyss]

Not for some

[potent vortex]

Don't even think about posting a lorde suggestion

[quiet abyss]

...Apparently

[ashen warren]

If people like the boss no joke then they like the boss man you don't need to warn them

[worthy fiber]

that's not the point

[ashen warren]

Just say

[bitter topaz]

tbh LORDE just needs to be an instaban from #suggestions-voting

[sudden quail]

Sparky that X at the start of your name looks oddly familiar

[sage niche]

thank you Xvsparky247

[ashen warren]

You cant so that

[hybrid cipher]

Lorde was a meme boss, I told people to stop talking about it in here. Anyone who continues will be muted.

[ashen warren]

?

Oddly framiliar

What

[ancient dragon]

Move channels.

[hybrid cipher]

Also stay on topic. Go to #general-talk

@ancient dragon what have I told you about minimodding

[ancient dragon]

Right, genuinely sorry.

[quiet abyss]

@tight chasm Agreed tbh

[ashen warren]

goes suicidal in his attacking

[quiet abyss]

Though then again, there are a few other bosses in other games that get easier in the final phase as well

[elder mist]

the shouting is signaling his massive ego

[ashen warren]

rushes in as fast as possible but taking 2x more damage

[elder mist]

it is intended to be his final desperation because he's clearly damaged and doesn't have much to throw at you

[potent vortex]

iirc he doesn't have the invisible shit after he shout that

[elder mist]

yes thats true

[quiet abyss]

Ye he doesn't

[tight chasm]

making him go hyper aggressive in that phase would suit him then

[elder mist]

because he's already too hurt to do it

but why

[ashen warren]

sygilin that's what i was just saying

bullrushes head damage

[elder mist]

why would he suddenly gain a surge of power on the end rather than the beginning, especially when he has 2 health bars rather than 1

[tight chasm]

because he'd be desperate to kill you, so he'd try to rush you at all costs

[elder mist]

but he can't because he's too hurt already

[ashen warren]

make dm even harder =)

[elder mist]

scal also suffers from that problem

although remedied by the bullet hells somewhat

you can easily see the brimstone blast differential between bh1 and bh5

[ashen warren]

story-wise it makes sense but it would be more fun imo to have something happen

[cinder locust]

I didn't saw bullet hell to be weak as heck when Calamitas was at 10% of health =T

[elder mist]

yharon, in my opinion, is why is so good

[tight chasm]

no he's saying the bullet hells get harder

[cinder locust]

Oh >_>

[elder mist]

no im not saying it gets easier / harder

im just saying the actual brimstone blasts are omnipresent in bh1

and there's like none in bh4

it's mostly just skulls and brimstone monsters

[cinder locust]

Isn't in 2nd phase Yharon just throws all what he has?

[elder mist]

yes

that's why yharon is so good

[quiet abyss]

Yes

[elder mist]

there's 0 shifts in his ai through his 2nd hp bar

no new attacks when he gets to 50% of his 2nd hp bar or anything

[tight chasm]

except near the very end, where he tries to charge you over and over

[signal ibex]

Sheesh

[quiet abyss]

Actually Ein?

[signal ibex]

Nvm

[quiet abyss]

Yharon 2nd phase does change pattern, but its subtle

[ashen warren]

DoG fight has always been my fav fight but yharon fight is close second

all the other fights pale

[quiet abyss]

Very subtle

[ashen warren]

even scal

[elder mist]

are you really gonna try to compare a minimum thing to getting new attacks after someone shouts?

i don't think there's much to compare there

mostly because when he's low people will just use adrenaline / rage to finish him off anyways

[quiet abyss]

You ever noticed how Yharon went from dropping meteors 2 times in a row to 3? Or how he loops at irregular intervals? As his HP drops?

Ye, that's him changing patterns. It's subtle, but its a change

[elder mist]

he always did segments of 2 when i nohit him

[cinder locust]

Or lots of Bumbelbirbs?

[tight chasm]

also, when phase 2 gets to like 10% health, he starts spam charging at you

[elder mist]

bumblebirbs are always at a fixed interval

it's at 5% hp

which is when he usually already dies

it even makes sense

to just be charges

he's too weak to do more meteors so all he can do is ram you

[cinder locust]

Since he has no enegry left >_>

Well unless just keep bitting your armor or something =T

[tight chasm]

which is exactly what I'm saying with DoG, he's too weak to do lasers, so he'd try and charge you more

[elder mist]

his charging speed doesn't increase or anything

[quiet abyss]

Meanwhile, his angery flame becomes a fireball machine gun

[elder mist]

but that's a thing separate from yharon

[quiet abyss]

I know, jsut pointing it out

[elder mist]

yharon summons the angery at the beginning of phase 2: when he has all of his energy

[ashen warren]

when DoG shouts it could be that he realises that you've shredded his armour and he needs to kill you before he dies

in a way his own adrenaline boost

[elder mist]

DoG not doing lasers and just charging makes sense